SpeedSim: General Pros and Cons of Various Airsoft GBB Pistols
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- Опубліковано 18 вер 2024
- This week on SpeedSim, E House and Amy go over their thoughts on the pros and cons of various airsoft GBB pistol brands, and what each one is good for.
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0:48 WE
5:22 Elite Force
7:21 KWA (Don't dry fire 1911, lose part)
10:07 KJW (horrible co2 mags??? - ASG are better)
11:29 Aftermarket parts (all won't fit except for TM)
12:11 Primary Choice / TM
Haha haha I was about to do this!!!
After much research TM high Capas are a beast! Reliable, accurate, expensive,sexy af and plenty of parts!
Tm all the way for now lol
HiddenGem #27 try aw hx 2001 it was my first pistol and it was so good
Zwifty already on board the TM master race.
Only thing I don’t like is that stock it is never threaded.
HiddenGem #27 yeah you can self thread a tm barrel as I’m using the gold match at the moment
"I didn't really know what I was doing..." It's okay Amy, it's 2018 and I still don't know what I'm doing.
@William Darell, Amy classifies as a woman due to her feeling that she was a women when she was born.
@@ATA_Midas even though ''she'' probably had a dick between ''her'' legs and probably also has a series of XY chromosomes..
Ayy, so dope that you gave a shoutout to KnucklesGSM! By far one of my favorite youtubers when it comes to Hi-Capa builds and upgrades. Great vid guys!
Eleos me to
Eleos yeah me too, I watch and rewatch knuckles. Love his videos
“What the hell is even that?”
Asg CZ P09 is what I use, great performance and gas efficiency
Love from the UK! :D
CrackedUnderPressure how many mags do you get of one co2
CrackedUnderPressure I just bought one I love it
I have a czp09 as well but the hop up unit broke after one adjustment . There is not spare parts anywhere. Really disappointed of ASG I call them and basically told me tha I' m screwed
Yes! Just the type of video I need! I can’t wait to watch :) love your channel!
the amount of speedqb clothes amy has is insane, there so expensive
I’m currently getting my local airsoft gunsmith to work on a TM M&P9 with full upgrades & a metal slide. Can’t wait to test it at the range 😁
love the destiny emblem
Rogue01 wow I wrote this over 2 years ago lol. Thanks for your comment Guardian 👍🏼
@@SparkyMTB lol yep, can't wait for D3
TM Hi-Capa is the best pistol platform for sure, but the upgrades can be insanely expensive!
You guys must get some really bad WE's. I have 2 high capas and I can run a full double stack magazine on one green gas fill. Most of my friends have the WE 1911's and love them. Maybe that's attributed to the qc like you said but I guess we have been super lucky.
Roger Giltner I love my WE Hi Capa so I guess they just got unlucky.
I play double KJW KP 5 as primary (co2). I have two of them 2 years and 1 6 months. They are fantastic, but definitely had a big issues with the mags - which only need resealing. The recoil is amazing, heavy weight and first shot accuracy lol.
If you buy a magazine thats not like the one you got in the box which is with gloss paint on it, you got the shit mag - reseal it right away. Also dont run Green gas mag...ever. Not enough power for the heavy slide.
Nice video, thanks for perfect description, I need to get new pistols ♥
Citizen Mike I would recommend using map gas for the green gas mag if it’s not having enough power. Map gas is amazing. I use it in my gbbr in 35f and it runs like it’s 60 or 70f
I run a kp06 and it finally died after 3 years on 170 psi. I'm planning on doing a kp05/06 next
I've been running my KP07 on 110 PSI HPA for a long time with no problems. Its my current favorite and most accurate pistol for longer range as a primary.
I just got a TM Five seven and I can't wait to use it in the field
excellent TM pistol, the best with TM hi capa, HK45 and PX4...
Bozar if only more TM guns were imported I'd be a happy camper
Now i understand why i dont see much TM in american videos , like i said on a comment, Tokyo marui pistols are really popular here Europe ^^
i also recently bought one, great gun
Summer 95 Their Hi Capa series is extremely popular here in America for CQB but most popular videos on American channels are more outdoor oriented or they just aren’t supported by TM.
the amount of information for a newbie is so much ... i need to watch this several times i guess
I run a PPQ that I got for free and KJW M9 that I’ve been generally happy with... other than the whole let a kid borrow it and he dropped it off a building onto concrete, breaking the safety... but seeing as that’s all that broke I’m pretty happy and use it as a primary most of the time. I don’t really have the budget to get a new rifle and the horrible choice to buy a Tavor has me reluctant to buy anything electric from now on so... here I am with what I’ve got. Anyways, loved the video, keep up the great work!
Random videos from you guys were recommended, binged on a lot of them, subbed!
Ive been using my kjw p226 for 3 years now with minimal maintenance and is still running . I play outdoors alot and its still running flawlessly with abit of scratches from wear and tear . Highly recommend it
LOVE YOUR STUFF... I would really appreciate a discussion or even a demo on Maintenance of rifles and Pistols... what to do after a game
William Darell now female, trans
This channel as always putting out the best INFO. Love your channel
Plenty of gun lube in my cleaning case, glad you mentioned it.
I run a TM G17 with WE hammer assembly, slide and blowback unit as my primary with an AEG as backup :P
Part support up here is pretty bad if you're running anything that's not a hi- capa and the only gas you can buy is green/red. I clean and lube it every time I'm getting ready for a game and after I come back as well.. working well so far.
You two are my favorite airsoft/youtube personalities. Thanks for the quality content.
Like they said KWA is a great gun as a secondary. I've had my M9ptp by KWA run solid for a little over 7 years and I only had to replace the trigger spring twice. I recently picked up the ATP due to my M9 hop up failing and me not wanting to go through the process to try and find all the parts I need to fix it. But as a secondary I recommend KWA to most everyone that asks me what pistol I would recommend, its a solid gun so long as you don't want to modify or tinker with a pistol.
I can't thank you guys enough for this video. You guys convinced me to get a TM Hi capa and it's probably the best airsoft purchase I've ever made
How's the gun?
@@gamersquidtv5000 I've had the gun for almost year now. It's amazing. Accuracy is great, and the gun is super reliable (it was able to run through a rainy outdoor game). If you do get one, I recommend saving up for an aftermarket metal slide, since the plastic one will break after around a year of use.
The only thing I don't like about the gun is the mushy trigger, but the pull is so short it doesn't really affect the rate of fire.
I think I’m about to buy one, is it good for outdoors in terms of range and accuracy?
@@Jeeps-ye5ct Yeah it is, even with the stock hop up and inner barrel you can still compete with AEGs if you engage people within 50 or so meters
I have a Taurus PT 99 GBB 27rnd cap, I can run through 2 full mags before needed to change the co2 cartridge. Super fun to shoot in semi and full auto. Also full metal body feels so good and strong kickback. Love this pistol
I have one too but the part that links the trigger to the hammer is broken and I'm having a lot of trouble looking for a spare one. just a heads up to future buyers
Definitely glad I picked up that WE P226, glad to hear it’s a solid gun.
I run a we 1911 meu. Have a black one and tan one and have more problems with the externals. I have learned when I fill the mag warm and do a purge on the outlet valve to let the mag cool down, refill at that point and it will cycle all fifteen rounds very well. Installed Angel custom nozzle and piston head and got it shooting at about 370 FPS. Mostly satisfied with them just sucks that you need all the mags to game it
tm suggests using HFC134a as propellant? Thats what my car takes for its AC
IIRC the Elite Force Glocks are VFC/Stark Arms OEM; make of that what you will. I owned a KJW single-stack 1911 for a while: it was okay and I never had a problem with the CO2 mags, it wasn't as good as the first EF 1911 I had. Speaking of which: I bought another one of those and quality has gone down though the intervening years. Maybe they fixed the hop-up with the Gen 3 but the one I have is basically brand-new and it won't hold hop for its life. TM's suck not because of bad quality, but because unless you've got a 1911 or Hi-Capa your aftermarket parts selection goes from "I can build a race gun from scratch" to "not even Google-fu can save you." I converted my TM USP Compact with a metal slide and had to modify a Hi-Capa recoil spring since stiffer springs do not exist yet.
I love when Americans complain about having to buy parts from overseas. Meanwhile in NZ we have to buy almost everything from overseas and get permits to import any guns/parts
and in europe, it's a part of life. lol
E House getting mad talking about VFC was the best part 😁
i do own a tokyo Marui HK45, Marui pistols are really popular here in Europe, excellent pistol, total rampage in CQB... i've put the John Wick compensator on it, with a SAI Detonator slide...
I recommend the we Glock. They are good. That was my first gbb. I did have to pay a little extra to get it through customs because theh are known ti sieze we, kjw, and tm glocks but what they do is lable it as something else, turn the box inside out, and/or ship the upper and lower separately.
Brilliant overview and nice analysis! :D
i mainly only run co2 pistols (and aeg rifles) kwc has always worked for me in the past.... now I'm running a asg cz po9 co2 great sidearm so far...im looking forward to running the elite force version of the usp45 co2 gbb pistol when ever it is that theyre released..
I love my KJW HI-CAPA is pretty good but yes you can't not replace the slides and some mag don't work on my gun
Tokyo Marui because there’s generally parts everywhere for them
Love the content man makes, gives me ideas for my own channel!
Great video, very informative and unbiased .
TM MK23 is the ultimate primary and secondary
Yeah but kwa mk23 goes Klick klack
I have been running an ASG CZ P-09 for 3 years now... At about the 2 year mark, my 4 co2 mags that l bought with it, started to fail. I am still on mags 5 and 6. This is the best airsift sidearm l have ever owned or used... hands down. I use it as a secondary and even a primaty, as it still chrono's at 345-350fps with a .25 gram bb, even after 3 years!! 😁😬😈😬😁
The best way to get VFC parts is through VFC themselves. Just email their costumer service and they get parts for me within a week. Just make sure to check the spam folder sometimes.
just buy a new one...
I know it’s not a GBB, but the TM MK23 is awesome. And the only mod necessary to run green gas is to the mag, or you can run the clone mags.
keep in mind a lot of hardware store have silicone oil but it does have solvents in it
7:21 Hey, just some extra info I found about the KWA part-dropping problem - it doesn't effect all of KWA's 1911's, only a specific model. That appears to be an issue only for the PTP models - it seems that other comsuer/competition-grade 1911 models don't have that issue. There is a notice about this issue on the PTP box. And personally, I have dry-fired my KWA 1911A1 multiple times (unaware of this alleged issue) and it hasn't dropped anything.
My WE hi capa 5.1R has run 8000-10000 rounds 50/50 co2 and geengas. It is still shooting like new. Only problem was the outerbarrel is two parts and glued badly together, i had put a screw in it to stay together(it fell out the first shot...haha). And I put in some foam to stop the trigger from hitting to hard and deform.
WE is the best gas gun company hands down and AW custom has some good offerings but break super fast also my WE highcapa will go through 3 full mags on one fill with propane
I guess this (kinda) answers my question I posted on another one of your videos about running a CZ P-09 as a primary!
Jesus do I love my TM g22 to death, got it for 200 here in canada before they stopped holding it in stock. RWA g34 FATALE slide with steel guarder upgrades, the thing is just a beast.
I love my KWA USP to pieces. I have 3 friend running one and we have yet to make negative experiences with it (even tho is mistreated it with the wrong oil once), that said: Were all rifle people. Its a phenomenal secondary though.
friends* gosh darn i cant type.
I have a EF Glock 19. The hop-up arm spring thing broke when I tried to bend it (the hop-up for some reason does nothing). Tried to message Elite Force on Facebook. Got directed to call Umarex. Called them and got someone who, according to their email signature, works for Walther. He tells me they don't have parts. Maybe he can scrounge one from a return gun. He does, but only ONE. Here's hoping it arrives soon......
Looks like vfc parts supply is a touchy subject for ehouse lol
Honestly man, it's like VFC's parts support could be its own horror story lmao
In the UK we have 0 parts support for kwc, so if anything breaks we are screwed unless we import the elite force rebuild kits for the US which become really expensive, however all Tm pistols are readily available so I’m loving my tm night warrior 1911 at the moment :)
Bry Airsoft
Same here in NZ. I want a CO2 1911 so bad (EliteForce style) bad we just can’t get them, or the parts.
This video depressed me a bit as an owner of a KWA pistol (though its SIG M226 so it got a "its kinda okay") and a KJW 1911. I have to comment on the KJW 1911 that it came with a CO2 mag and a GG mag. The CO2 mag ran like a champ for 3 years without any maintenance (I didn't know what I was doing), with the sole exception that the 12 gram cartridge was IMPOSSIBLE to get out. Great pistol, but I had to beat the mag against a rock every game day just to use it to drop that cartridge out.
I always buy TM, I am a fan boy ;)
Asg cz 75 p01 shadow enough said !
TM is best. Also that statement about TM's wearing out significantly faster with Green Gas is false. I've owned and used many TM models for over 12+ years and have used nothing but quality Green Gas. I've only had one of their older M9 models' slide crack during a game back in 2007-2008. If properly taken care of and maintained on a regular basis, a stock plastic bodied TM can last longer than any other brand with a metal body using Green Gas. With nothing but a PDI TBB and Nine Ball Hop-Up Bucking, my TM NW 1911 has lasted me 6 years of continuous use without failure. On a side note, anybody with bare minimum knowledge knows the KWC 1911’s suck ass out of the box. Upgrading those is next to pointless and nearly impossible. Good while they last, but that usually isn't very long. QC is horrible and if you actually have one that has lasted more than year, consider yourself lucky. (I own the M45A1 variant).
IT IS NOT necessary to "lube it up" the night before and after the game. True and false. It really depends on how much youve used it. You can get through with rarely lubing your pistol because the silicon oil will not just dry out, its when it becomes dirty, which will take it a while if its resting only in your holster and your hand, then you have to clean it and re-lube. Just adding new lube every night before a game will most likely just make your innerbarrel dirty.
Y'all can actually stop by Tech Kazi and get them airsoft G-Series! They're a little busy though so orders are going out slower. Online store only, by the way.
The Bombastic Badazz shill
Jäger Meister hey man anything to support the small guys
I feel like it was a bit exaggerated on how much its a pain to get TM from overseas. Shipping isn't to bad and the wait time is only 12 days vs 6 from evike. Also any site you order the TM from will have TM parts. I personally use a propane rated springs (WE oem or Guarder 150%) for my plastic slide builds and have had no issues.
Hi capa is jus a 2011 basically double stack 1911 what someone was sayin in a video. Double stack wit a rail
Can Amy please please please do a video about the Elite force’s Glocks? Since Elite Force has VFC as the OEM, I don’t know what to expect
BMR 3 Bad id bite the bullet and import a KJW or WE personally.
The cybergun Sig X-Five is a great co2 gun
There's the speedqb shirt NOW its a real speedsim episode
What about the KLI isn't that oem by classic army?? I have the BABA YAGA and its a beast of a gun, It doesn't have trades but I don't mind.
I picked up a pair of second-hand full metal WE 1911s for a bargain. The hop-ups were broken on both models (in the same place) and have been replaced with maple leaf hops but I've had to bore holes through the guide rods for the recoil springs in order to get them to fit together. My question is how much money is worth spending on upgrading these guns?
Should I get plastic slides? Better magazines? Or should I start thinking about switching to another manufacturer?
Crazy how different experiences change things my W.E has done better than any A.W I've had :-) cool video though :-)
Just buy a TM if you want a 1911, use it till it brakes then fix or upgrade. Avoid guarder and other cheap slides for TM, go a quality make like Prime, PGC or Detonator. If you think building a TM is expensive try a Western Arms.
I own a We g18c with a angel custom bore up nozel ive ran it for over a year with tons of mag dumps and no problems. Shoots straight and really far.
Could you do a revised pistol parts vid for the vfc/umarex
You guys rock!
Also I will definitely agree with how bad vfc ppq is. The field that I worked at constantly had customer ppq break.
Have you guys tried or know anyone who has tried a Poseidon p18c pistol? What do you guys think of that gun as primary?
So what is the pistols you guys reccomend for primary?
Nvm, I rewatched the vid... the answer is tm
echigoya in japan sells tokyo marui rly cheap and its 40-50$ shipping so i could argue about finding tokyo marui in japan
What about a double bell m1911 cqb green gas double stack pistol?
BTW: You guys talked me into picking up an Elite Force 1911 TAC. Though I did find that extra mags were needed for each match, it worked great for CQB.
Do yo have an opinion on ICS pistols?They are fairly new, and ICS has a good reputation for quality with AEGs, I am eyeing their Korth PRS.
If you have any data for using TM outdoors? Reliability? What break first?
Here a parts list page from vfc www.vegaforce.com/download ppq is under there
Would appreciate an update re:1911 with the new tm m45a1! The new mag holds 20% more gas. Aaaand a different bbu
Husband loves his fnx-45 but damn no one even over seas has parts for it. Can't find the suppressor threat cover.
My ef 1911 works fin but I put a mock suppressor on it to compete with rifles
Wd40 doesnt hurt rubber seals at all.... it's been thoroughly disproven in the motorcycle world with o-ring chains. It's a petroleum product, so is rubber, they dont fight.
E house whats your oppinion on the vfc avalon? Im saving up for a good aeg(gonna be able to buy it in summer)
kdhstormy best m4 you can buy its the same as krytac
kdhstormy They already have a video on the avalon I believe
What about the salient arms blu? I just bought it and it’s coming in the mail. Any good?
How would you guys at Speedsim rate an APS ACP?
KY-AIRSOFT for Pistol parts for VFC stuff.
Always had trouble with the Angle Custom Stuff. I never got any of the stuff to work without issues. Wonder why it is such low quality or have so many issues.
its a part by part issue. AC is a rebranding company so they dont make their own stuff
Hey E-House, with all due respect, can you let Amy finish what she's saying before you cut her off...
I got a kjw 1911a1 out of a mystery box. Have two extra c02 mags from kjw. Only one time I can think of where at the end of the day a c02 cartridge leaked out. Every other refill I spray silicone into the mag and always use the same brand cartridge. I’m not running it hard but I do use it. Has held up so far. Blow back on it is like shooting a .22. Hop up could be better. I’ve been questioning if a elite force barrel assembly will fit. Anyone know the answer?
Any good 92-fs models?
My elite force 1911 extended mag has a crooked co2 follower screw. So when i screw in my co2 it bumps it out and wont seal properly, any idea on how to fix it?
I want to switch my cqb primary to a pistol, i live in the use should i get just a stock tm hi capa?
Should i convert it to hpa right away or use green/co2 for awhile?
Or should i get an elite force 1911?
I run the ASG SP01 Shadow as a primary on CO2, its a good gun but the slide lock wears very quickly lasted maybe 4 full days in the field before it stopped locking back, still great to shoot but the durability is certainly disappointing
From owning a few of them I don't think KWC 1911s are at all good out the book, as I've found the top up is really bad out the box. Also all the mags I've had for them leaked out the box and need work done to them (this was not that hard for me to do but I don't think a beginner would want to or now how to fix them). I have a KWJ 1911 witch I've used as a primary with co2 mags for about a year and it's really held up well and I've only had problems with one of my 5 co2 mags. But maybe I was lucky.
Jesscrayons yeah, I find that they gave KJW a bad rap in this vid. Their CO2 mags are hit or miss, but their guns are IMO the best non-TM guns on the market. I have a KJW KP06 Hi Capa that I run as a primary and it works just like the day I got it
I load my single stack with about 5 to 6 rounds less then what the factory says what it can hold. I find after that it never goes out of gas
So i use elite force m92, and the semiauto function broke. Probly some user error which i cant identify. Thank god that i still had warranty. Is there a user error that can possibly destroy the semiauto function for elite force m92?
Elite force should start putting better bucking in their pistols because after a couple days of gameplay the hopup just craps out on you
I have difficulty on getting any parts for kwa m9 ptp especially the trigger spring, slide lock, and outer barrel. Can you please help me out where can I find it. I'm from Philippines.
What about the wet g series ? Seem pretty good so far