Our 2017 Hyundai Sonata's engine failed at 67,000 miles while out of town. The good news is that the warranty covered the repair. The bad news is that it took the Hyundai dealership in Santa Maria, California 73 days to make the repair; they said the replacement engines were on backorder. To make matters worse, Hyundai has a program where they ship your car back to your local dealer when the failure happens out of town. However, during the shipment from Santa Maria to Carlsbad, California, Hyundai lost our car. Neither Hyundai nor either dealer knew where the car was for 7 days. Eventually, it showed up in Carlsbad without paperwork. The dealer claimed not to know anything about it... but when we walked out back we found our car. The service representative told us they wondered why that car arrived on a truck, and it didn't occur to them to mention it to us when I asked about our car.
No! Because if you make these things to last, you won't buy new ones anymore! That's the American way that I learned not to adapt to. They are trying to do that with new homes as well.
But consumers also have memories. My new Santa Fe had engine failure at 17000 miles and after waiting a month for an engine replacement I traded it in for a Mazda. It's gonna be one heck of a long time before I again put SUV type money into a Hyundai. If planned failure is a strategy I think they need to rethink it
A lot of these issues are caused by manufacturers cutting corners and the CAFE standards that have caused brands to make smaller and more fuel efficient engines that are pulling heavier weights thus reliability and longevity issues come up! Govt should stop forcing and mandating the manufacturers to comply (stick to governing) while manufacturers should stick to building and making reliable brands based on efficient yet evolving technology not solely based on fuel efficiency alone
I think some of the problem is government regulations which is forcing manufacturers to employ technology that they aren't exactly comfortable with. Not the entire problem though with some.
What’s baffling is that with Hyundai/Kia’s recalls on millions of vehicles worldwide, yet so many customers still buy their vehicles! 🤦♂️ I personally wouldn’t touch their vehicles! I’ve known 2 family friends who’ve owned Hyundais and have had so many issues with them (engine failure=replaced & transmission failure=replaced). Yikes!!!
@@grahamkearnon6682 go and check Consumers Reports 2022-2024 Kia Sportage Hybrid has better reliability record than Honda CRV hybrid but for any reputable information you must be an idiot who pay for it (10 $ monthly) instead of smart guy like you watching UA-cam click bait videos.
@@grahamkearnon6682 2022-2024 Kia Sportage have higher reliability rating than Honda CRV but you must be idiot looking for truthful and reputable reports from ConsumerReports instead of be smart guy like you watching UA-cam click baits
2014 Chevy Sonic 1.4 turbo. 25,000 miles water pump. 30,000 miles just about every oil seal plus water pump seal. $8,000 after months of hassles with a Ft.Lauderdale Chevy dealership. Mind you, this car is only lightly driven.
I have been very fortunate in picking engines and transmission for my cars that have been built for a long time. My 2006 Saab 9.3 with an Ecotec engine 2.0L 4 now has 270,000 miles on the original powertrain. Sold it to a friend with just under 200,000. Sill own a 2013 Subaru with the 3.6 H6 engine and 5 speed automatic with just under 150,000. No powertrain problems except for an engine coil cracking and needing replacing (just a few hundred dollars). Our 2018 Buick with the very similar Ecotec 2.0L 4 now has over 90,000 miles with no problems. Our newest car also has an old engine - the Mazda SkyActiv-G engine which has been made since 2011 but is in our 2023 Mazda CX-5 with its also ancient 6 speed automatic. Expect 200K from this car as well.
Alarming! These reputable manufacturers of cars could produce such terrible engines that are not tested adequately - thus pre-matual failures. The moral is - avoid turbo engines at any cost! Thank you Shari for your thorough research!
What is happening all the time is that lower income people will save up all there money to buy a nice used vehicle only to have the transmission or engine fail leaving them without funds to repair it . Most likely it is not worth fixing anyways it so it goes to the wrecker and you get $500 for a vehicle you spent say $9,000 on.
Owned a VW Golf Mk7 once, 1.4L turbo dual clutch, ride quality was good but got so many electrical problems, and it's a gas guzzler surprisingly. Never a fan of german cars thereafter.
I used to drive a escape 2017 - 4 cyl ecoboost that drove for work. Got to 190K miles with just regular maintenance. Oil changes, tires and transmission flush. It was an awesome car, and it was funny because people kept joking around the "Found on the road dead" but that car outlived theirs lol. But I know for a fact I got lucky because I met someone who's escape engine died at around 100K.
When my wife's 2016 Hyundai Tuscan hit 101k I had to replace the transmission that was $5k then at 120k the catalytic converter went. Every Sunday I have to add about 1/2 quart of oil. From now on I'm only buying Toyota
I have a 2017 Hyundai Sonata and had to have the engine replaced at approximately 92,000 miles. This was covered under warranty but this is the first car that I have had engine problems with and I tend to keep my cars for around 120,000.
No they don't. There was a NHTSA investigation launched based on 9 reported failures out of approximately 450K units. Nissan admitted that it was aware of the defect, and made a rolling production change so its already fixed and the early affected units were replaced. Meanwhile Toyota just had to replace over 100K engines because they forgot to blow out machining residue (very basic oversight showing lack of quality control) after a massive amount of engine failures, which comes right after the massive transmission failure recall.
Today's cars and trucks are cheap, throwaway junk compared to vehicles built years ago! Our 1985 Toyota pickup truck with the 22RE engine is still running perfectly after 39 years, and our 2003 GTI VR6 is still running perfectly after 22 years! They still have the original timing belts/chains, and the only thing we've done is change the oil religiously, and garaged them. They both have been super reliable vehicles, to say the least!
As an auto dealer, I strongly DO NOT recommend the following Makes/Models: Chevy Cruz, Badddd Transmission. Chevy Sonic, Overall, a junk vehicle. Chrysler/Dodge Mini Vans (Caravan/Voyager), Baddd Transmission. Mini Cooper, Overall, a junk vehicle. There are more problematic models. These models listed; a buyer must stay away from at all costs.
Car Help Corner, you failed to mention the 22-23 Toyota Tundra and Lexus LX. All the non-hybrid engines are having to be replaced. It's true they are so new it's under warranty, but still you expect a vehicle that can cost as much as $90,000 would be far more reliable, especially coming from Toyota. Some of these engines failed with less than 10,000 miles. Why did you not include them?
Most engines will be excessively worn/damaged by 100K if you don't do quality-oil 3-5K mile oil changes, most especially turbo engines - which should have 3K mile oil changes optimally since the oil is doing double-duty. So, if buying a used vehicle, verify it wasn't one of those foolish 7-10K+ mile oil change interval vehicles. Same with making sure the vehicle has had regular 25-30K transmission fluid services (which very few actually do, but that is how transmissions make it to 200-300K+ easily with no problems.
what are you talking about? My 2010 honda fit had engine oil change for 200k miles at 7 to 8k mile interval whenever maintenance minder came on. This is absolutely not true about 3 to 5k mile for my Honda.
@@wanbrother9242 And it could have easily gone 500K+ miles with more frequent oil changes. Plus, on more modern (crappier) engines with direct-injection & also turbos, less frequent oil changes results in more carbon sludge problems than usual in addition to the added wear-and-tear. But, believe whatever you want & good luck.
Imagine all these Explorer police vehicles with the turbo plus the abuse they get. Once they're done with police use, they're ready for the junker. In contrast, the Crown Vics police cars were sought after as used vehicles
My friend traded her well maintained, garaged kept 2013 Kia Sorento with 82,000 miles. It looked brand new when she traded it in for a reliable RAV4. Her Sorento had Regular oil changes every 3,000-4,000 miles and it was using a quart of oil every 200-300 miles.
Here in Europe, I have the 2008 Kia c'eed, 1.6l, 90ch. It's 290.000 today, and I never have a problem with the timing chain, alternator, and other electronic components. I changed the Turbo for the first time at 264.000k and the clutch at 246.000km. I will dump it when it's 400.000k.
Great well done topic! I have read and heard a lot about vehicle unreliability but it is rare to see a comprehensive evaluation on the bankrupting category of premature engine failure. This channel provides necessary information to avoid a severe money pit disruptive auto experience.
Awesome video Shari!!! Thank you for sharing that Car Help Corner organization is a non biased opinions. The AJAC organization ratings are bought out by corrupt manufacturers. As for the list, the tier 2 list of cars are that disastrous and will not make 120,000 miles would be those Honda Turbo engines, all of KIA, Hyundai and Genesis vehicles.
To be fair to the people making these junks, people operating them are also a big factor why they fail early. I bet most of these vehicles were not properly maintained by their owners. Especially the young drivers who seemed to be surprised they use lubricating oil that needs to be changed regularly! And yes they would lie about how they maintain their vehicles!😂
Have a 2014 Chevy cruze with 1.4 litre turbo and drove it for 425,000 kilometers. Failed head gasket even though the engine still ran. Zero issues with the turbo. Oil and filter change every 8000 kilometers.
I have a 2008 Pontiac Grand Prix with a 3800 motor with 229k. I live in a snowbelt state so my fenders are starting to rust. My buddy will slap some fiberglass and steel on it to hold me over. Looking for another rust free Grand Prix from a southern state. 3800 is bulletproof. G.M..C. Good Man Car!
@@captainmorgan5449 the amount of Pontiacs still on the road here in Edmonton Alberta makes me wonder, how many vehicles of this generation will be around in 20 years?
You are blessed with that drivetrain. I have a 2003 GMC Sonoma truck with the 4.3 vortec and a simple 4 sp transmission. Another GMC/Chevy engine that was reliable and tough, so of course they had to "improve" it with their problematic 6 cylinders.
Contrast that with most really well made older engines. About 6 years ago I bought a 1995 Buick Park Avenue 3.8 V6 which was heavily neglected, never really had an oil change and needed a new engine about a year after. I pulled one from a junk yard and put it in the car. It's still running and driving like it did back in 95 when it was new and i put 10s of thousands of miles on it. They don't want these modern cars to be fixed, it suck because they're expensive and it contributes to vehicles being in land fills which really sucks
Agree. H/K has a more rigorous oil change schedule under “severe service”. Boiling down what constitutes severe service it’s pretty much this: the simple act of firing off your H/K car constitutes severe duty. Therefore 3,500 mile oil changes……
You don't see nearly the same issues from mazda or toyota. It's just a lack of quality. Hyundai/Kia operate a lot like GM. Sell as many units as possible, cheap out on materials and quality checking from the factory. And profit until they're sued for a sum, that's less than if they actually made repairs or made a quality product.
Yes. And shortly you'll be adding vehicles from two of the most reliable (we thought) vehicle makers. Honda in the midst of a massive 1.4M vehicle recall of their 3.5L V-6 engines and Toyota with their Tundra engine fiasco. Maybe 100% electric is the way to go. Never thought I would say that!!
When l bought my first car in 1970, a car that made it to 100k miles was a marvel. We'd all look at that odometer in wonder. I guess we're coming full circle.
I never forget and forgive what Hyundai caused me. They made such cheap car and poor quality. Timing belt and spark plugs are broken. After diagnostic, my 17 Tucsin LTD has engine replacement due to the broken spark plugs falling into the engine. Replace engine at 33k miles. Waiting over 7 months for response from Hyundai, spending more than $100 first 2 weeks to rent the car while it is not working. They delay everything and rental car, included. DO NOT BUY any Hyundai/Kia/Genesis vehicles. Don't let their warranty fool you!! Most reliable brands DO NOT offer 100k miles/ 10 years!! SPEND YOUR MONEY WISELY!! 👊
The VW 2 liters seems to have all of the kinks worked out. Before 2016, they definitely had issues, but now they seem to run to at least 200k if you do basic maintenance
My good friend who's a head mechanic for Fords heavy duty trucks told me to not buy any ford eco boost trucks or anything with turbos and only get 5.0 v8 engines
Timing belt in the oil...argh... either that is a blatant attempt to engineer a guaranteed point of failure into the engine, or, Ford's engineering and QA team need a serious overhaul.
When you use an engine that is too small, you can expect early wear. A problem greatly encouraged by our ignorant EPA. Adding Eco-boost, turbos, etc increases wear even more.
Hmm I thought y’all said Jeep was junk, but yet not even one of their models was on this list, personally I have a 2014 Jeep with a 2.4l Multi-Air engine, with 233,000 miles and counting never had any issue with it or the transmission. It doesn’t burn oil or anything, never even had a check engine light on. Just general maintenance is all that’s ever been done, oil changes, air filters replacements, brakes, shocks just normal maintenance items that should be done to every car
Funny with my Ford Fusion 2015 and my Ford Mustand 2022, Never had issues with the engines. Just the Bad Dealerships in San Diego and Chula Vista. Here in Bremerton, Washington Dealerships are so much better than the ones in California.
The key word I Kept hearing was 'turbo'. Older turbo diesels worked but, the last 15 yrs has seen too many makes trying & failing with a small engine tied to a turbo. This year saw Toyota Tacoma dive in feet first, I predict bad results. Buy new, sell before warrenty up, its that simple!
Not anymore: another conclusion is trying togo car free as inimaginable and horrible it can be. Do you really trust an auto maker in 2024 to deliver a reliable vehicle?
Every producer is shooting itself in the foot with the efficiency and ecology regulations. Now you must have ultra efficient non polluting and also powerful engine. In the end you have less ecology because your cars ends up in the landfill much sooner with a ton of replaced parts! Less complication less problems.
Yes, we went from jiffy lube saying change your oil every 3k to dealers saying don't worry just change it every 15k. We will do it for free. Pretty slick. We will just recover our 15$ oil change cost by selling 15k dollar engines. SMH
I have two fords. I have a 2018 Ford Explorer. It is front wheel drive and no turbos and no problems. We just got a Ford Escape 2023 . It is a hybrid but not awd and no turbos. We have no problems with our vehicles. Thoughts?
HKG products are still failing at very high rates. They haven't fixed anything. There are several HKG engine Failure-groups. The stories and excuses for not honoring warranties are horrific.
Does the Porsche Macan use the same 2.0 vw 4-cyl engine you warned us about? I think they share the ea888 engine, but why didn’t you mention the base Macan as a car to avoid? Does Porsche make the ea888 more reliable somehow? I’m asking because my wife and I are looking at the Macan. Thanks!
I dunno - my sister has had 3 over the last 20 years - she rolls them to 100k then trades for a new one. Proven formula for her. I’ll tell her to buy a lotto ticket…..
Our 2017 Hyundai Sonata's engine failed at 67,000 miles while out of town. The good news is that the warranty covered the repair. The bad news is that it took the Hyundai dealership in Santa Maria, California 73 days to make the repair; they said the replacement engines were on backorder. To make matters worse, Hyundai has a program where they ship your car back to your local dealer when the failure happens out of town. However, during the shipment from Santa Maria to Carlsbad, California, Hyundai lost our car. Neither Hyundai nor either dealer knew where the car was for 7 days. Eventually, it showed up in Carlsbad without paperwork. The dealer claimed not to know anything about it... but when we walked out back we found our car. The service representative told us they wondered why that car arrived on a truck, and it didn't occur to them to mention it to us when I asked about our car.
Aren't we supposed to be getting better at building things after more than a century?
No! Because if you make these things to last, you won't buy new ones anymore! That's the American way that I learned not to adapt to. They are trying to do that with new homes as well.
But consumers also have memories. My new Santa Fe had engine failure at 17000 miles and after waiting a month for an engine replacement I traded it in for a Mazda. It's gonna be one heck of a long time before I again put SUV type money into a Hyundai. If planned failure is a strategy I think they need to rethink it
A lot of these issues are caused by manufacturers cutting corners and the CAFE standards that have caused brands to make smaller and more fuel efficient engines that are pulling heavier weights thus reliability and longevity issues come up! Govt should stop forcing and mandating the manufacturers to comply (stick to governing) while manufacturers should stick to building and making reliable brands based on efficient yet evolving technology not solely based on fuel efficiency alone
It's not that they can't, they decided cost cutting is more important than reliability
I think some of the problem is government regulations which is forcing manufacturers to employ technology that they aren't exactly comfortable with. Not the entire problem though with some.
I owned a VW Passat and the only part that worked properly was the check engine light 😂
Thanks. Please continue to name and shame these car manufacturers.
Thankful to own a Toyota Camry 😎
What year?
Toyota's are crap now.
Im on my third Yota. By choice. Not due to vehicle failure.
What’s baffling is that with Hyundai/Kia’s recalls on millions of vehicles worldwide, yet so many customers still buy their vehicles! 🤦♂️ I personally wouldn’t touch their vehicles! I’ve known 2 family friends who’ve owned Hyundais and have had so many issues with them (engine failure=replaced & transmission failure=replaced). Yikes!!!
Goes to prove how many idiots out there. Stick to Subaru, Mazda for wellpriced value vehicle's.
@@grahamkearnon6682 go and check Consumers Reports 2022-2024 Kia Sportage Hybrid has better reliability record than Honda CRV hybrid but for any reputable information you must be an idiot who pay for it (10 $ monthly) instead of smart guy like you watching UA-cam click bait videos.
Samsung and LG refrigerators are junks too.DO NOT buy them.
@@grahamkearnon6682 2022-2024 Kia Sportage have higher reliability rating than Honda CRV but you must be idiot looking for truthful and reputable reports from ConsumerReports instead of be smart guy like you watching UA-cam click baits
the most important thing about a car to a buyer is the colour of the car. they don't do any research.
2014 Chevy Sonic 1.4 turbo. 25,000 miles water pump. 30,000 miles just about every oil seal plus water pump seal. $8,000 after months of hassles with a Ft.Lauderdale Chevy dealership. Mind you, this car is only lightly driven.
I have been very fortunate in picking engines and transmission for my cars that have been built for a long time. My 2006 Saab 9.3 with an Ecotec engine 2.0L 4 now has 270,000 miles on the original powertrain. Sold it to a friend with just under 200,000. Sill own a 2013 Subaru with the 3.6 H6 engine and 5 speed automatic with just under 150,000. No powertrain problems except for an engine coil cracking and needing replacing (just a few hundred dollars). Our 2018 Buick with the very similar Ecotec 2.0L 4 now has over 90,000 miles with no problems. Our newest car also has an old engine - the Mazda SkyActiv-G engine which has been made since 2011 but is in our 2023 Mazda CX-5 with its also ancient 6 speed automatic. Expect 200K from this car as well.
Alarming! These reputable manufacturers of cars could produce such terrible engines that are not tested adequately - thus pre-matual failures. The moral is - avoid turbo engines at any cost!
Thank you Shari for your thorough research!
Jaguars have always been garbage. Now, even more so. 😊
Go Woke, Go Broke.
What is happening all the time is that lower income people will save up all there money to buy a nice used vehicle only to have the transmission or engine fail leaving them without funds to repair it . Most likely it is not worth fixing anyways it so it goes to the wrecker and you get $500 for a vehicle you spent say $9,000 on.
Capitalism sucks eh?
@@user-fed-yum That is an immature uncalled for comment that has nothing to with the topic discussed . You need to work on your EQ.
My Camry just rolled over 340k, only routine maintenance.
Ditto
What year Camry?
@@JohnDeBord 04 Camry. Uses about a quart of oil every 1k. Still has original wheel bearings which is crazy.
Owned a VW Golf Mk7 once, 1.4L turbo dual clutch, ride quality was good but got so many electrical problems, and it's a gas guzzler surprisingly. Never a fan of german cars thereafter.
I have VW Jetta diesel. No electrical problems. During pandemic was harsh, since there was a lack of diesel parts...
I used to drive a escape 2017 - 4 cyl ecoboost that drove for work. Got to 190K miles with just regular maintenance. Oil changes, tires and transmission flush. It was an awesome car, and it was funny because people kept joking around the "Found on the road dead" but that car outlived theirs lol. But I know for a fact I got lucky because I met someone who's escape engine died at around 100K.
My 2012 Kia Optima just died while on the highway. 85K miles. Towed to dealership and waiting for a readout.
My 2012 Optima Hybrid also died going 80 mph on the freeway
you are the lucky one
@@fidelmoya1745 scary stuff. Just glad I was in the right lane and could coast onto the side.
When my wife's 2016 Hyundai Tuscan hit 101k I had to replace the transmission that was $5k then at 120k the catalytic converter went. Every Sunday I have to add about 1/2 quart of oil. From now on I'm only buying Toyota
Shame transmission didn't go 2K miles earlier so it would be under warranty. Did you ask them to cover it as a goodwill type repair?
@ .... your right but she bought it used so they wouldn't cover it
I have a 2017 Hyundai Sonata and had to have the engine replaced at approximately 92,000 miles. This was covered under warranty but this is the first car that I have had engine problems with and I tend to keep my cars for around 120,000.
Forgot to mention Nissan Variable Compression Turbo in Rogue. Even Nissan itself admits that.
Plus it's horrible CVT. That is one vehicle to avoid
No they don't. There was a NHTSA investigation launched based on 9 reported failures out of approximately 450K units. Nissan admitted that it was aware of the defect, and made a rolling production change so its already fixed and the early affected units were replaced. Meanwhile Toyota just had to replace over 100K engines because they forgot to blow out machining residue (very basic oversight showing lack of quality control) after a massive amount of engine failures, which comes right after the massive transmission failure recall.
Hyundai and Kia after 10 yrs still make crap engines. They still refuse to make sure the metal shavings are gone before the assembly process... Lol
They changed the engine now.
kIA commercial at the end made me giggle 😁
You forgot to mention the newest Toyota engine failures.
That's an issue with a new platform. Not a lot of history. Time will tell if this is an isolated problem or sign of declining quality.
Today's cars and trucks are cheap, throwaway junk compared to vehicles built years ago! Our 1985 Toyota pickup truck with the 22RE engine is still running perfectly after 39 years, and our 2003 GTI VR6 is still running perfectly after 22 years! They still have the original timing belts/chains, and the only thing we've done is change the oil religiously, and garaged them. They both have been super reliable vehicles, to say the least!
2 Kia Borrego 3.8 V6 here, one with 250K and the other with over 300K, and they don't burn a drop of oil.
Having a great experience with my Ford 1.5L I4 EcoBoost, stay up on maintenance and going strong at 170k no problem. Looking to push 250k miles
you should do same video for transmissions
He does.
Do you know why Ford did that sank the timing belt in engine oil?
Presumably, to reduce wear & tear; had the quite opposite affect. 🤔🤔
Bits of the failing belt in the oil pump pick up.
Who'da thunk putting a petroleum based object (rubber belt) into petroleum could ever have issues??
As an auto dealer, I strongly DO NOT recommend the following Makes/Models: Chevy Cruz, Badddd Transmission. Chevy Sonic, Overall, a junk vehicle. Chrysler/Dodge Mini Vans (Caravan/Voyager), Baddd Transmission. Mini Cooper, Overall, a junk vehicle. There are more problematic models. These models listed; a buyer must stay away from at all costs.
Isn't the Chevy Sonic madee by DaeWoo?
Car Help Corner, you failed to mention the 22-23 Toyota Tundra and Lexus LX. All the non-hybrid engines are having to be replaced. It's true they are so new it's under warranty, but still you expect a vehicle that can cost as much as $90,000 would be far more reliable, especially coming from Toyota. Some of these engines failed with less than 10,000 miles. Why did you not include them?
Car lots are full of them. Just waiting for unsuspecting people who have no clue.
Most engines will be excessively worn/damaged by 100K if you don't do quality-oil 3-5K mile oil changes, most especially turbo engines - which should have 3K mile oil changes optimally since the oil is doing double-duty. So, if buying a used vehicle, verify it wasn't one of those foolish 7-10K+ mile oil change interval vehicles. Same with making sure the vehicle has had regular 25-30K transmission fluid services (which very few actually do, but that is how transmissions make it to 200-300K+ easily with no problems.
Best post.
what are you talking about? My 2010 honda fit had engine oil change for 200k miles at 7 to 8k mile interval whenever maintenance minder came on. This is absolutely not true about 3 to 5k mile for my Honda.
@@wanbrother9242 And it could have easily gone 500K+ miles with more frequent oil changes. Plus, on more modern (crappier) engines with direct-injection & also turbos, less frequent oil changes results in more carbon sludge problems than usual in addition to the added wear-and-tear. But, believe whatever you want & good luck.
Imagine all these Explorer police vehicles with the turbo plus the abuse they get. Once they're done with police use, they're ready for the junker. In contrast, the Crown Vics police cars were sought after as used vehicles
The Police Explorers use a 3.7 N/A V6 which is much more reliable than the Ecoboost.
New ones use the 3.3 NA v6 or are hybrid v6
My friend traded her well maintained, garaged kept 2013 Kia Sorento with 82,000 miles. It looked brand new when she traded it in for a reliable RAV4. Her Sorento had Regular oil changes every 3,000-4,000 miles and it was using a quart of oil every 200-300 miles.
Here in Europe, I have the 2008 Kia c'eed, 1.6l, 90ch. It's 290.000 today, and I never have a problem with the timing chain, alternator, and other electronic components. I changed the Turbo for the first time at 264.000k and the clutch at 246.000km. I will dump it when it's 400.000k.
Great advice for consumers.
The 3.5 also has water pump issues, which is normally not a big deal, but is a 12 hour job on a 3.5. So says Car Wizard.
Great well done topic! I have read and heard a lot about vehicle unreliability but it is rare to see a comprehensive evaluation on the bankrupting category of premature engine failure. This channel provides necessary information to avoid a severe money pit disruptive auto experience.
Awesome video Shari!!! Thank you for sharing that Car Help Corner organization is a non biased opinions.
The AJAC organization ratings are bought out by corrupt manufacturers.
As for the list, the tier 2 list of cars are that disastrous and will not make 120,000 miles would be those Honda Turbo engines, all of KIA, Hyundai and Genesis vehicles.
To be fair to the people making these junks, people operating them are also a big factor why they fail early. I bet most of these vehicles were not properly maintained by their owners. Especially the young drivers who seemed to be surprised they use lubricating oil that needs to be changed regularly! And yes they would lie about how they maintain their vehicles!😂
Have a 2014 Chevy cruze with 1.4 litre turbo and drove it for 425,000 kilometers. Failed head gasket even though the engine still ran. Zero issues with the turbo. Oil and filter change every 8000 kilometers.
i have a 1997 pontiac bonniville , with the 3.8 v 6 , 322,000 miles and counting
It’s not a rust bucket by now?
That 3800 engine is bulletproof. Absolutely legendary.
I have a 2008 Pontiac Grand Prix with a 3800 motor with 229k. I live in a snowbelt state so my fenders are starting to rust. My buddy will slap some fiberglass and steel on it to hold me over. Looking for another rust free Grand Prix from a southern state. 3800 is bulletproof. G.M..C. Good Man Car!
@@captainmorgan5449 the amount of Pontiacs still on the road here in Edmonton Alberta makes me wonder, how many vehicles of this generation will be around in 20 years?
You are blessed with that drivetrain. I have a 2003 GMC Sonoma truck with the 4.3 vortec and a simple 4 sp transmission. Another GMC/Chevy engine that was reliable and tough, so of course they had to "improve" it with their problematic 6 cylinders.
So price does not guarantee quality 😮
You forgot that nobody buys these vehicles, they lease them, the manufacturers know that and build them to last 3yrs max
Contrast that with most really well made older engines. About 6 years ago I bought a 1995 Buick Park Avenue 3.8 V6 which was heavily neglected, never really had an oil change and needed a new engine about a year after. I pulled one from a junk yard and put it in the car. It's still running and driving like it did back in 95 when it was new and i put 10s of thousands of miles on it. They don't want these modern cars to be fixed, it suck because they're expensive and it contributes to vehicles being in land fills which really sucks
I think a LOT of the Kia/hyundai issues are lack of maintenance. Cheap cars often don’t get correct maintenance.
Agree. H/K has a more rigorous oil change schedule under “severe service”. Boiling down what constitutes severe service it’s pretty much this: the simple act of firing off your H/K car constitutes severe duty. Therefore 3,500 mile oil changes……
You don't see nearly the same issues from mazda or toyota. It's just a lack of quality. Hyundai/Kia operate a lot like GM. Sell as many units as possible, cheap out on materials and quality checking from the factory. And profit until they're sued for a sum, that's less than if they actually made repairs or made a quality product.
But why are Hyundai/Kia owners so much worse at proper maintenance than owners of other vehicles? Answer is that it's not just maintenance.
no they are junk out of factory
@@502Chevy I wonder how much of a difference these 3,500 mile oil changes make a difference on the longevity of these cars.
People don’t fully research car purchases, they don’t even know what type of engine they are buying.
Yes. And shortly you'll be adding vehicles from two of the most reliable (we thought) vehicle makers. Honda in the midst of a massive 1.4M vehicle recall of their 3.5L V-6 engines and Toyota with their Tundra engine fiasco. Maybe 100% electric is the way to go. Never thought I would say that!!
Itll be software failures and viruses on them.
We don't care about reliability, we just want all your money!!!
When l bought my first car in 1970, a car that made it to 100k miles was a marvel. We'd all look at that odometer in wonder. I guess we're coming full circle.
LOL, that could be. I hope not!
I just changed my 2010 FJ Cruisers oil today...117,000 miles, and. the engine is as quiet as a mouse pi**ing on cotton balls...😀😀😀
2017 Kia Sedona owner. 80k miles, the V6 paired with 6 speed seems running strong.
coolant intrusion has been fixed since 2018 - 2019 in their 2.0 ecoboost so almost 6 years ago they been all great.
I never forget and forgive what Hyundai caused me. They made such cheap car and poor quality. Timing belt and spark plugs are broken. After diagnostic, my 17 Tucsin LTD has engine replacement due to the broken spark plugs falling into the engine. Replace engine at 33k miles. Waiting over 7 months for response from Hyundai, spending more than $100 first 2 weeks to rent the car while it is not working. They delay everything and rental car, included.
DO NOT BUY any Hyundai/Kia/Genesis vehicles. Don't let their warranty fool you!! Most reliable brands DO NOT offer 100k miles/ 10 years!!
SPEND YOUR MONEY WISELY!! 👊
I once considered the Hyundai Sonata. Glad I never bought it!
Wow, this is probably the first video a Stellantis brand vehicle wasn't listed to avoid.
The VW 2 liters seems to have all of the kinks worked out. Before 2016, they definitely had issues, but now they seem to run to at least 200k if you do basic maintenance
My good friend who's a head mechanic for Fords heavy duty trucks told me to not buy any ford eco boost trucks or anything with turbos and only get 5.0 v8 engines
Any Chinese car just terrible to maintain and their cars are basically disposable after like 60,000kms
you own one?
There is no Chinese car in North America
@@lutforrahman9996 so how do we know if they’re disposable cars?
@@rudfil I didn't say anything about Chinese cars
@lutforrahman9996 you said there are no Chinese cars in North America
Timing belt in the oil...argh... either that is a blatant attempt to engineer a guaranteed point of failure into the engine, or, Ford's engineering and QA team need a serious overhaul.
When you use an engine that is too small, you can expect early wear. A problem greatly encouraged by our ignorant EPA. Adding Eco-boost, turbos, etc increases wear even more.
I have a 2.0L Ecoboost with 215k miles running great. Make this make sense.
2011 Kia Soul at 135,000 miles with no major repairs. 2.0 engine is very reliable.
I have a 2013 Hyundai Elantra 1.8L and now running at 285,000 kms. and still running well. Just good regular maintenance will prolong life of your car
What kind of car engines have no problems & 0 recalls? I think we might use a bike. Plz reply
Must have been built in Korea. Because the domestic Hyundai/Kia are not reliable.
I dont trust these comment. why Its always 285,000?
I have seen comments says 285,000 miles.
Hyundai motor group has produced some really solid engines. Unfortunately they're not consistent. Many, many crap powerplants.
@@0HOON0 Yup
Got Fiat Doblo - same engine as Fiat 500. 250k kilometers without any seriuos malfunction.
I've got a 2008 fiat Doblo on 145k miles. Runs like clockwork and cheap to fix!
To sum up this entire channel:
Toyota, honda, mazda, acura & lexus= good
Everything else= bad
My Santa Fe is well over 100k and runs great but it is also a 6 cylinder and pre 2011 so that may have saved me some grief.
I had an ‘07 Hyundai Accent that started burning oil before 100K mile.
Simple "Buy Honda or Toyota" and pay 3-5k extra well worth the value and resale value
Honda & Toyota the past 3 years have not been that reliable
Fords 2.7 has a belt in oil running the oil pump.
VW 2.0 turbo gasoline is a joke, but VW 2.0 turbo diesel engines are one of the best in VW history. I have one running strong at 216k miles.
Hmm I thought y’all said Jeep was junk, but yet not even one of their models was on this list, personally I have a 2014 Jeep with a 2.4l Multi-Air engine, with 233,000 miles and counting never had any issue with it or the transmission. It doesn’t burn oil or anything, never even had a check engine light on. Just general maintenance is all that’s ever been done, oil changes, air filters replacements, brakes, shocks just normal maintenance items that should be done to every car
Funny with my Ford Fusion 2015 and my Ford Mustand 2022, Never had issues with the engines. Just the Bad Dealerships in San Diego and Chula Vista. Here in Bremerton, Washington Dealerships are so much better than the ones in California.
The key word I Kept hearing was 'turbo'. Older turbo diesels worked but, the last 15 yrs has seen too many makes trying & failing with a small engine tied to a turbo. This year saw Toyota Tacoma dive in feet first, I predict bad results. Buy new, sell before warrenty up, its that simple!
These car manufacturers must really love you! 🤭. This is great information to have though.
Don't buy any used car without knowing the maintenance history!!!
'04 RAV4 200k, '12 Prius 200k, '23 GRC 15k 😅
Fiat 1.4 l (n/a + turbo) was one of the best small engines of all time. And not so much of them had this (a bit) unreliable Multiair technology.
BMW= Big Money Wasted!
Conclusion: go with Toyota only!
Not anymore: another conclusion is trying togo car free as inimaginable and horrible it can be. Do you really trust an auto maker in 2024 to deliver a reliable vehicle?
Every producer is shooting itself in the foot with the efficiency and ecology regulations. Now you must have ultra efficient non polluting and also powerful engine. In the end you have less ecology because your cars ends up in the landfill much sooner with a ton of replaced parts! Less complication less problems.
What fails is people not changing the oil
Yes, we went from jiffy lube saying change your oil every 3k to dealers saying don't worry just change it every 15k. We will do it for free. Pretty slick. We will just recover our 15$ oil change cost by selling 15k dollar engines. SMH
@@KevinUrban-u1z They need to arrest you if you touch a vehicle
Fiat should be avoided based on how HIDEOUS it looks.
When you say BMW twin turbo v8 what exactly do you mean? Is it the N63? Yes it had problems. The latest is the S68. This is quite good so far.
I have two fords. I have a 2018 Ford Explorer. It is front wheel drive and no turbos and no problems. We just got a Ford Escape 2023 . It is a hybrid but not awd and no turbos. We have no problems with our vehicles. Thoughts?
HKG products are still failing at very high rates. They haven't fixed anything. There are several HKG engine Failure-groups. The stories and excuses for not honoring warranties are horrific.
After all these years, the Japanese manufacturers are still the best long term buy. Toyota, Honda, or Subaru.
2018 Hyundai Elantra 105k have only done my own oil changes at 6/7k intervals and still running strong is it a fluke?
Lol. Name a motor that doesnt have "cooling, timing chain, turbo and head gasket problem"
Today's society thinks cars can run forever without maintenance.car's today are no different than 50 years ago change your oil!!!
Japan is where all my cars are from.
My Hyundai sonata cost me way too much in fixes then transmission failed, never Hyundai ever
Walking sounds like the solution but I am prone to bad knees and foot failure
Blackrock and Vanguard profit over quality. They don’t care.
Surprised to see Chevy v6 on here. Only had good experiences with them.
I heard the Ford raptor and KIA Stinger was reliable!?
Ford is job 1 in the recall dept.
And yet people continue to purchase these sub par vehicles🤔
I need upgrade since Ford no longer make my dream car... I love my Ecosport❤❤❤ but its near 9 years old.. any advice what I should look for? Kia? VW?
Mazda or Toyota would be my pick, in that order.
Nope. Neither. Your only and best option right now are Japan brands. Unfortunately, their quality is also declining.
Since 2017 I owned 4 Audi cars between my wife and I.. all had the 2.0T. All of our car went over 100K.. no issues.
Yea besides the electrical gremlins
I don’t think Mr. 7105 mentioned anything about electrical gremlins. Do you know something about his 4 cars that he doesn’t?
Does the Porsche Macan use the same 2.0 vw 4-cyl engine you warned us about? I think they share the ea888 engine, but why didn’t you mention the base Macan as a car to avoid? Does Porsche make the ea888 more reliable somehow? I’m asking because my wife and I are looking at the Macan. Thanks!
Don’t. Ran away from it as fast as you can.
I have a 2.4 4cly GM engine with 162,000 miles and it doesn't use any oil at all. It powers my 2009 G6 so your trash talk on it doesn't impress me.
All Korean cars fail at 48K miles.
I dunno - my sister has had 3 over the last 20 years - she rolls them to 100k then trades for a new one. Proven formula for her. I’ll tell her to buy a lotto ticket…..
Before the video i guess, all European cars 😂 and now the small Americans engines 😢
All I hear is "Turbo"