if I could hit that like button 100 more times I would---you have to wonder if she has any idea or cares that this woman spent 14 years of her life locked up because of a lie
couturegalx3 I totally agree with you, give her the maximum, don't care how long it takes. Telling lies doesn't pay, much less putting an innocent woman in jail.
Her kids should sue the state and those parents for forced abandonment... they took their mother away for 14 years... I'd find a will and a way to get compensation
She could still go back and sue the state!!! Nobody is going to stop her, it wasnt right that she was false charged of a crime she didnt do. Regardless of the papers she signed, she still has a right to sue the state. Just needs some good lawyers. She deserves compensation for the false imprisonment!!!
CDTucker336 I agree, sounds like she signed under duress, I sure hope she gets an awesome lawyer or better yet one who finds her and helps for free, this is heartbreaking, hope anyone involved who helped lie gets jail, this kind of stuff needs to stop
I really want to do a petition to change this kind of thing :/ she lost 14 and a half years of her children’s life! I’m not even a parent yet nor’ an adult but thinking that breaks my heart 😞
The woman is probably in a mental hospital and can’t be sued. It wouldn’t surprise me if she made those crazy claims because she was mentally unhinged like her counterpart in the parallel McMartin case.
Wow!! So they let her out, but only if she agreed not to sue the state?? She got screwed over and they basically told her, "sorry, we'll let you out, as long as you don't sue us!"? That's outrageous. Also, the delusional mother who had her sent to jail should be in hot water, especially for getting other children involved in this. Why did she have this huge vendetta against the bus driver?
Money. Rotten greedy lowlifes will do anything to ruin innocents to get their financial payday through deceit, lies, and scumbaggery-- acts that should have had that filthy Karen's kid taken from her permanently. She used and manipulated her own child against Nancy and that poor guy Joseph. Also didn't help neighbors, law enforcement, AND the DA *never* questioned any of it.
I don't understand... It is mandatory for teachers to take attendance everyday, wouldn't the investigator see that the students were in fact in class? Plus, if the students were to be coming off the bus and into the house, I am pretty sure the neighbors would be suspicious and be a witness, but they weren't. Another thing is if the lady drops the kids off late every Friday at school then more than likely the Principal would either complain about her not being able to come in on time with the kids or request a new bus driver or whatever the case may be.
The woman who accused this bus driver of this more than likely did not send her kid to school on the days in question and that's how she made a case against the bus driver probably claiming she did put her kid on the bus. I would bet money that the parent that accused her of this was getting in trouble for her child be absent from school and being a sorry parent and came up with this story because in most states if your child is under 16 and misses more than 10days of school without a severe medical reason and dr authorization then you will pull jail time
So basically she was found not guilty in the end, but she had too sign an agreement to not sue them and keep her freedom? What the fuck this makes no damn sence!!! They should of gave her a settlement for spending time in there and arrested that bitch for lying!!
wait, so she was found innocent, then 'forced' to sign some papers that makes her lose her right to sue the state? What if she didn't sign those papers? Would she go back to jail for being innocent and refusing to sign?
i would have not signed the papers and gone back. then talk to my kids about the issue so that they publicise it on the media, for the court sending an innocent person back to jail. i am SURE there will be an outrage for me.
BenjaminLee2009 A contract signed under threat isn't enforable. She can sue the state and claim she only said she wouldn't because they threatened her. If the judge throws out the lawsuit, sue the judge. You can't put a gun to someones head and make them sign over the deed to their house. That's a crime and if a common criminal can't then the state can't..
Shaylaszone Actually I have seen this ALOT and in only turned 18. I have 5 siblings and I have seen them lie to my moms face and make up shit just for the sake of it. Obviously I'm the 2nd oldest. It's my cousins too. For example. I was a a kids indoor play centre where there be all the coloured balls and slides I DONT KNOW WHAT THE PLACES ARE CALLED. My sister and cousin saw this sweet little girl who didn't do anything but look and mu sister n cousin started saying shit to her and she was like 4 or 5 and they are 9 and 10. Then they went to my mom and told em all this shit like"oh this girl said something RACIST and RUDE and she punched my BOOB. And this hasn't JUST happend once it happens all the time. So I have to deal with this I literally can't go to the park without about who the kids are fighting with. Uhhh!!! Kids lie about SHIT 24/7 either for attention or whatever If you think this isn't true you obviously know any kids or have a lot of sibling When I was a kid I just use to mind my business and PLAY ad I never use to lie to my parents and only tell the truth but I was no brat soo.
her freedom means she can't "sure the state" WHAT TYPE OF BACKWARDS CORRUPTION IS THIS??? WHAT IS WRONG WITH THIS COUNTRY? what the fffff i am ssoooo MADDD!!!
What happened to her is unfair in every single way. She was falsely accused and incarcerated and now cannot sue! She should sue the woman who made the false allegations and all the other parents who got their kids to make up the lies.
What’s even more disgusting and heart breaking is that Joseph Allen (the man accused of sexual abuse) is still in jail for a crime he didn’t commit. What can we do to help him??
Wait this woman signed an agreement not to sue to the state? She was accused of molestation a crime that basically ruined her life. What the fuck is wrong with our system?
I love that you guys chose to do a segment on this. It's such an important topic and definitely deserves more media attention. This is one of the reasons the death penalty needs to be abolished.
Anyone who coaches a child into saying and subsequently thinking they were molested is just as bad as an actual molester, in my opinion. They're psychologically "molesting" that child because they grow up believing they were sexually abused. As someone who has been sexually abused, it makes me sick that some people plant these things in unharmed children's heads, typically out of some form of bitterness. You never bring a child into your personal issues with people! Children aren't pawns. Anyone who coaches a child deserves just as much punishment as an actual abuser, because thinking you've been molested has the same psychological damages as actually being molested. I'm disgusted with such a miscarriage of justice.
If that ever happened to me there's no way I could stay that strong. I would own the title the court judged me and become the biggest criminal in prison as I could.
I was thinking of moving to America and open a business... eh idk. Thats not the land of the free, thats not limited government. How does the government have the power to put an innocent person in prison for years then release them and act like nothing happened.
This is so sad! The monsters who did this to her and forced these children to lie under oath should be ashamed and should be the ones behind bars! If you falsely accuse a person of a crime they didn’t commit you should be punished even more severely for filing false statements and defamation of character! What kind of a scum bag does this to somebody!?
How the hell can you rob someone of 14 years of life and not provide compensation to start life again. Thats so disgusting that they would have her sign something like that! America you have lost your way!
How could someone do that to her?! Why would anyone lie and do that? Did she think she was gonna get money for making her child lie?! That woman should be locked up for lying!!!
The judges must've been stupid to put her in jail with fake evidence, they should've make the kids and the parent take a lie detector test. and wth do they mean she can't sue the state fym yes tf I would. it's illegal for them 2 keep you in jail when they now know you did not commit the crime unless you say you won't sue them
This is the kind of crap that gets me so mad !! The state didn’t do their Job to find out the truth but also prevents the victims from getting Recompensation out of it or even getting the liars that place them there punish and I call BS . Hurts my bones to think that a lot of ppl get convicted like this and waste their lives in jail. SHAME on you .
Man I couldn’t imagine being locked up for so long wrongfully accused how do you wake up everyday and live life knowing the system failed you of no proof and still getting locked up
I wanna hear the woman who put her in jail and ask her if she feels awful for taking 14 years of this innocent womans life and throwing it away. She ruined her life, she should at least apologize for wrongly accusing her.
The woman, Margie Grondin, plus three or four other parents involved in the case won a multi million dollar settlement after they sued the daycare. And there have been reports that the kids involved, later on when they grew up, said that nothing happened to them and/or that they were coerced. Take what you will from that.
A contract can't be enforced if the signature is gained by threat or coercion. She should have signed her name then added "under threat and duress"... which voids the contract.
God Bless yu Zmy husband has been LOCKED UP FOR 15 YEARS FOR A CRIME HE DID NOT DO AND WE ARE STEAL WAITING FOR HELP THEY HAVE ALSO DROPPED HIS CASE THIS IS TERRIBLE WE HAVE NO LOVE AND COMPATION IN THIS WORLD NO MORE
This is so sad and wrong. And had to sign to not sue the state?? They took 14 years of her life away with NO SUPPORTED EVIDENCE!!!! What the hell?? And that woman AND the kids should be at fault!! They all knew they were lying and should be punished in some way, especially that lying mother.
I have done a little further research on this case. What I want to know is what the **** happened to Margaret Grondin, the mother who coached her daughter AND other children what to say to police? 14 years taken away from Ms. Smith. Does Grondin get off scott free with no consequences? I am seeing red right now.
I would sue everyone that was involved no matter what they wanted me to sign. I would take everything they had and crush there life like how they did to this women
If only it had ended with the cop who investigated the claims and decided there was no case against Nancy. But with overzealous prosecutors as well as that crazy woman, neither of whom were willing to let things go, there was no chance.
The woman who accused her, the DA, the prosecutors as well as the doctors, therapists, and anyone else who coerced the kids to falsify their testimonies she be investigated and prosecuted!!
I'm sorry I know she's signed a waiver that she couldn't sue the state but the state truly needs to be held responsible for this because they put her in prison for children being coerced and parents being idiots and realizing that they had a good bus driver that would never hurt them.
This makes me so angry! The woman that lied needs to be locked in jail
and have the pants sued off of her!
if I could hit that like button 100 more times I would---you have to wonder if she has any idea or cares that this woman spent 14 years of her life locked up because of a lie
couturegalx3 agreed.... she needs to be held responsible in some type of way! This is ridiculous... the justice system has FAILED
couturegalx3 totally all of them and the lying ass children too when they are old enough to be taught a lesson
couturegalx3 I totally agree with you, give her the maximum, don't care how long it takes. Telling lies doesn't pay, much less putting an innocent woman in jail.
People who make false allegations of rape or child molestation should get the same sentence as the person they accused
kiaora224 or worse
I'd say double the sentence. Seems only fair to me.
I would say the same sentence + years for defamation and filling a false report.
Her kids should sue the state and those parents for forced abandonment... they took their mother away for 14 years... I'd find a will and a way to get compensation
Mallorie Erin Heck yes!
Mallorie Erin yeah I would sue them
She could still go back and sue the state!!! Nobody is going to stop her, it wasnt right that she was false charged of a crime she didnt do. Regardless of the papers she signed, she still has a right to sue the state. Just needs some good lawyers. She deserves compensation for the false imprisonment!!!
CDTucker336 I agree, sounds like she signed under duress, I sure hope she gets an awesome lawyer or better yet one who finds her and helps for free, this is heartbreaking, hope anyone involved who helped lie gets jail, this kind of stuff needs to stop
CDTucker336 I agreed
this is fuck up, she cant even sue the state. smh
CDTucker336 she shouldn’t sue the state. They didn’t make the decision that she was guilty. She should sue the woman that lied
I really want to do a petition to change this kind of thing :/ she lost 14 and a half years of her children’s life! I’m not even a parent yet nor’ an adult but thinking that breaks my heart 😞
Can't she sue the woman who started this. Someone needs to be held accountable.
The woman is probably in a mental hospital and can’t be sued. It wouldn’t surprise me if she made those crazy claims because she was mentally unhinged like her counterpart in the parallel McMartin case.
Yes! No matter what the State should have compensated her for 14 years if her life taken from her and every parent involved should be behind bars!!! 😡
Agreed, double their time to 28 years even!
Wow!! So they let her out, but only if she agreed not to sue the state?? She got screwed over and they basically told her, "sorry, we'll let you out, as long as you don't sue us!"? That's outrageous. Also, the delusional mother who had her sent to jail should be in hot water, especially for getting other children involved in this. Why did she have this huge vendetta against the bus driver?
Lunnie Not acceptable. How dare they say she cant sue. That is part of the apology.
Sue the woman. Sue the county sue the prosecuted the judge all the adult witnesses
Money. Rotten greedy lowlifes will do anything to ruin innocents to get their financial payday through deceit, lies, and scumbaggery-- acts that should have had that filthy Karen's kid taken from her permanently. She used and manipulated her own child against Nancy and that poor guy Joseph.
Also didn't help neighbors, law enforcement, AND the DA *never* questioned any of it.
Money. Some of the parents sued and got a lot of money
The woman repeated the same conduct against one of her own relatives. Maybe she has a mental disorder.
She should be on Dr. Phil not The Doctors
Hitchin A' Ride For a while I thought it was a Dr. Phil episode
Hitchin A' Ride Im sure Dr Phil will call her
Hitchin A' Ride I
Uh no , Dr phils disabled comment section policy limits audience
Hitchin A' Ride Dr. Phil has been on the doctors before so they are kind of intertwined.
OK so she cannot sue the state, but she can definitely sue the woman who started all this.
I don't understand... It is mandatory for teachers to take attendance everyday, wouldn't the investigator see that the students were in fact in class? Plus, if the students were to be coming off the bus and into the house, I am pretty sure the neighbors would be suspicious and be a witness, but they weren't. Another thing is if the lady drops the kids off late every Friday at school then more than likely the Principal would either complain about her not being able to come in on time with the kids or request a new bus driver or whatever the case may be.
Jess I wish that judge had a enough common sense to know that
The woman who accused this bus driver of this more than likely did not send her kid to school on the days in question and that's how she made a case against the bus driver probably claiming she did put her kid on the bus. I would bet money that the parent that accused her of this was getting in trouble for her child be absent from school and being a sorry parent and came up with this story because in most states if your child is under 16 and misses more than 10days of school without a severe medical reason and dr authorization then you will pull jail time
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Don’t buses have cameras?
I just want to give this woman a big hug :(
So basically she was found not guilty in the end, but she had too sign an agreement to not sue them and keep her freedom? What the fuck this makes no damn sence!!! They should of gave her a settlement for spending time in there and arrested that bitch for lying!!
A close friend of mine spent 22 years in prison for murder before being exonerated by DNA evidence. He was also helped by the Innocence Project.
My uncle spent 15 years behind bars for a crime he did not commit either. He is home now but the entire ordeal turned him into another man.
OH MY GOD! I'm outraged :O oh my God How do you recover from being deprived of 15 years of your youth ??! OMG
wait, so she was found innocent, then 'forced' to sign some papers that makes her lose her right to sue the state? What if she didn't sign those papers? Would she go back to jail for being innocent and refusing to sign?
BenjaminLee2009 pretty much
i would have not signed the papers and gone back. then talk to my kids about the issue so that they publicise it on the media, for the court sending an innocent person back to jail. i am SURE there will be an outrage for me.
BenjaminLee2009 A contract signed under threat isn't enforable. She can sue the state and claim she only said she wouldn't because they threatened her. If the judge throws out the lawsuit, sue the judge. You can't put a gun to someones head and make them sign over the deed to their house. That's a crime and if a common criminal can't then the state can't..
Wow. My biggest fear.
Omfg i feel so bad..
Those kids were brainwashed and their parents got together and lied they should be jailed
Shaylaszone Actually I have seen this ALOT and in only turned 18. I have 5 siblings and I have seen them lie to my moms face and make up shit just for the sake of it. Obviously I'm the 2nd oldest. It's my cousins too.
For example. I was a a kids indoor play centre where there be all the coloured balls and slides
I DONT KNOW WHAT THE PLACES ARE CALLED.
My sister and cousin saw this sweet little girl who didn't do anything but look and mu sister n cousin started saying shit to her and she was like 4 or 5 and they are 9 and 10.
Then they went to my mom and told em all this shit like"oh this girl said something RACIST and RUDE and she punched my BOOB. And this hasn't JUST happend once it happens all the time. So I have to deal with this I literally can't go to the park without about who the kids are fighting with. Uhhh!!!
Kids lie about SHIT 24/7 either for attention or whatever
If you think this isn't true you obviously know any kids or have a lot of sibling
When I was a kid I just use to mind my business and PLAY ad I never use to lie to my parents and only tell the truth but I was no brat soo.
She needs a Private Investigator to figure out who were trying to destroy her reputation & then sue them for Character Assassination..
This reminds me of the Salem witch trials
So she goes to jail for nothing but the woman who spread the lies gets no punishment whatsoever. I'm so mad.
her freedom means she can't "sure the state" WHAT TYPE OF BACKWARDS CORRUPTION IS THIS??? WHAT IS WRONG WITH THIS COUNTRY? what the fffff i am ssoooo MADDD!!!
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Wow justice at work here! How the fuck they can offer her freedom at the price of not seeking compensation. Joke.
The parents who lied will burn in ever lasting Hell.
Mrs. Davis that is too good for them
What happened to her is unfair in every single way. She was falsely accused and incarcerated and now cannot sue! She should sue the woman who made the false allegations and all the other parents who got their kids to make up the lies.
They owe her for defamation of character & 14.5 yrs. of lost life.
What’s even more disgusting and heart breaking is that Joseph Allen (the man accused of sexual abuse) is still in jail for a crime he didn’t commit. What can we do to help him??
Wait this woman signed an agreement not to sue to the state? She was accused of molestation a crime that basically ruined her life. What the fuck is wrong with our system?
The people who contributed to her jailing should be put behind bars for 14 years
Poor lady, they should arrest that woman that accused her.
that's bull shit I would be getting revenge!! 😠
I love that you guys chose to do a segment on this. It's such an important topic and definitely deserves more media attention. This is one of the reasons the death penalty needs to be abolished.
Anyone who coaches a child into saying and subsequently thinking they were molested is just as bad as an actual molester, in my opinion. They're psychologically "molesting" that child because they grow up believing they were sexually abused.
As someone who has been sexually abused, it makes me sick that some people plant these things in unharmed children's heads, typically out of some form of bitterness. You never bring a child into your personal issues with people! Children aren't pawns.
Anyone who coaches a child deserves just as much punishment as an actual abuser, because thinking you've been molested has the same psychological damages as actually being molested. I'm disgusted with such a miscarriage of justice.
EmilyB3690 must have narcissistic personality disorder
If that ever happened to me there's no way I could stay that strong. I would own the title the court judged me and become the biggest criminal in prison as I could.
Omg they took 14 years to solve her case
this is so horrible
there are several cases I watched on youtube the same like this. it's sad stoy
This woman is an amazing person
The mother who wrongfully accused her should one be locked up for being a habitual liar. Kids need their ass whooped. Taught to lie. Not good.
UNBELIEVABLE.. JUST HORRIBLE!! SO GLAD SHE WENT NATIONAL TO HOPEFULLY GIVE HER SOME SORT OF PEACE.
I was thinking of moving to America and open a business... eh idk. Thats not the land of the free, thats not limited government. How does the government have the power to put an innocent person in prison for years then release them and act like nothing happened.
SamIAm
Not really with modern day feminist and sjws
All of those parents who told their kids to say these things should serve as much time as she did.
What about men who’s lives are ruined by false rape accusations
You shouldn't be treated like this. I am so sorry for you.
This is so sad! The monsters who did this to her and forced these children to lie under oath should be ashamed and should be the ones behind bars! If you falsely accuse a person of a crime they didn’t commit you should be punished even more severely for filing false statements and defamation of character! What kind of a scum bag does this to somebody!?
They always do that. Make you sign something so you can't sue them. It's disgusting, honestly.
My god..I feel so bad for her.She didn’t deserve this.i hope the woman who accused her gets what she deserves.
Think about how many other ppl are stuck in prison for not commuting anything
How the hell can you rob someone of 14 years of life and not provide compensation to start life again. Thats so disgusting that they would have her sign something like that! America you have lost your way!
How could someone do that to her?! Why would anyone lie and do that? Did she think she was gonna get money for making her child lie?! That woman should be locked up for lying!!!
I would have wanted the parents to be tested mentally and ask them why she was being accused of the crime in the first place.
The judges must've been stupid to put her in jail with fake evidence, they should've make the kids and the parent take a lie detector test. and wth do they mean she can't sue the state fym yes tf I would. it's illegal for them 2 keep you in jail when they now know you did not commit the crime unless you say you won't sue them
This is the kind of crap that gets me so mad !! The state didn’t do their Job to find out the truth but also prevents the victims from getting Recompensation out of it or even getting the liars that place them there punish and I call BS . Hurts my bones to think that a lot of ppl get convicted like this and waste their lives in jail. SHAME on you .
how does this happen?! so effed up! shame on that "parent" she deserves prison time for lying and ruining someone's life...what trash!
I can't Believe This!! She should of Never Signed Those Papers and then Sued The hell Outta the county!!
OMG! The people who made the false accusations need to be jailed!!!
I'm glad she's back home but I'm sad that she'll never get them years back she lost.
Man I couldn’t imagine being locked up for so long wrongfully accused how do you wake up everyday and live life knowing the system failed you of no proof and still getting locked up
I wanna hear the woman who put her in jail and ask her if she feels awful for taking 14 years of this innocent womans life and throwing it away. She ruined her life, she should at least apologize for wrongly accusing her.
I just saw in the comments that the lying parent is dead that's just disappointing she should be the one serving 90 years
I couldn't believe this ridiculous thing actually happened!
what I don't understand is why would the woman want to accuse her of anything in the first place? There's something fishy about this.
Maybe because she does not want to admit her daughter was sleeping with her boyfriend or whatever.
The woman, Margie Grondin, plus three or four other parents involved in the case won a multi million dollar settlement after they sued the daycare. And there have been reports that the kids involved, later on when they grew up, said that nothing happened to them and/or that they were coerced. Take what you will from that.
i respect oeople like you..!
Sue the state and the lady!!
The woman who started this should be put in jail!!
You can never, never ever give someone back their time. That's the thing.
Imagine how mad that lady would have been
this is why it should require CCTV proof
A contract can't be enforced if the signature is gained by threat or coercion. She should have signed her name then added "under threat and duress"... which voids the contract.
God Bless yu Zmy husband has been LOCKED UP FOR 15 YEARS FOR A CRIME HE DID NOT DO AND WE ARE STEAL WAITING FOR HELP THEY HAVE ALSO DROPPED HIS CASE THIS IS TERRIBLE WE HAVE NO LOVE AND COMPATION IN THIS WORLD NO MORE
That’s horrible bless her heart they’ve all just ruined her life !!!
WHO THE HELL WOULD DO THIS?? THAT WOMAN NEEDS TO BE IN JAIL
This is so sad and wrong. And had to sign to not sue the state?? They took 14 years of her life away with NO SUPPORTED EVIDENCE!!!! What the hell?? And that woman AND the kids should be at fault!! They all knew they were lying and should be punished in some way, especially that lying mother.
How did she get arrested with no evidence?
That’s not a fair contract. That contract makes me mad. Being forced to sign a contract shouldn’t be legal
This is an outrage
I would have sued the state and gotten millions, I don't know were they found "evidence" of her "commiting" the crime
I have done a little further research on this case. What I want to know is what the **** happened to Margaret Grondin, the mother who coached her daughter AND other children what to say to police? 14 years taken away from Ms. Smith. Does Grondin get off scott free with no consequences? I am seeing red right now.
She should be given half a million $$ per year in jail - can't go after the state ?!?!? WT HELL!!!
??????? Whaaat why cant she sue the state???? Whet??!!
We should start a go fund me for this woman!
There are people like this that exist that are horrible people
Where the fudge is the boyfriend?? He should go to jail. They should have the girl go on trial to accuse or defend
I would sue everyone that was involved no matter what they wanted me to sign. I would take everything they had and crush there life like how they did to this women
I'd sue the ever living CRAP out of those parents who coached their kids to lie! I promise they would be bankrupt if not also in prison!
So sad.that this can happen 😔be strong 💪 take care ❣️
She should sue the woman
Sue her. Get your money sis
thats 14 years off her life life that she cant get back. so sad and mad
If only it had ended with the cop who investigated the claims and decided there was no case against Nancy. But with overzealous prosecutors as well as that crazy woman, neither of whom were willing to let things go, there was no chance.
The woman who accused her, the DA, the prosecutors as well as the doctors, therapists, and anyone else who coerced the kids to falsify their testimonies she be investigated and prosecuted!!
Wow this other women should be in prison!!
I would have stayed in jail and then get a lawyer to sue the state for me, the state knowing I’m innocent and taking it to supreme
Having to sign that agreement to not sue the state just to gain freedom should be illegal itself!
I'm sorry I know she's signed a waiver that she couldn't sue the state but the state truly needs to be held responsible for this because they put her in prison for children being coerced and parents being idiots and realizing that they had a good bus driver that would never hurt them.
She can never have those years back and she has to NOT sue them I would sure the shit out of them. She should get a million dollars
How did they prove she was guilty though? I mean the justice system in every single country is based of innocent until proven guilty.
so glad the woman is free
Yet another reason why we need to completely overhaul/abolish the criminals injustice system.