Channel that does videos about even about some small weird staff conveniently ignoring big staff like how FIA is gearing to shut drivers up if it doesn't like what they have to say
RB is working like a well oiled machine. Ferrari clearly lacks the experience of fighting for a world championship. Given how many internal shifts there were in the past eight years, it's more or less like a young team without any experience. Cracking under pressure, not being able to develop as fast as their direct competitors. They were effectively fighting with Mercedes and not with RB.
They "only" had to shape up some things and do a few weight reductions. While Ferrari and Mercedes for example had much bigger concerns with their designs. I think thats what helped them throughout the season.
Something that wasn't mentioned, Max Verstappen. If Checo was the leader and Max wasn't there, would we think about the RB18 the same way we do today? Max is the driver who produced all that potential the car had to offer. It all works together (obviously) but without Max you'd never really know it.
@@southerncomfort1339 you realize all RB did to make the car faster was reduce the weight of the car right? So how exactly is taking weight off the car have anything to with driving styles and it not suiting Checo and whatever other excuse you can come up with. In Baku Checo out qualified Max, and then proceeded to get gapped by 20 seconds in the race, what’s the excuse for that race? Or the 15 other races I can sample from where Max is dusting the entire field and Checo is struggling to pass a Mercedes/Ferarri.
@@southerncomfort1339 i believe the beginning of season 2022, Max complained about reliability issues. It had nothing to do about the design being suited to Checo. Rather, Max's car had gremlins his driving style and/or adaptability can not control.
@@yugarten8523 working on side projects. With their less than stellar performance during the Renault hybrid years, Newey lost interest in the F1 project, and would likely have left Red Bull if he hadn't been given the option to work on cars like the Aston Martin Valkyrie. It wasn't until Honda came aboard and Red Bull could reliably challenge Ferrari and Mercedes again, that he once again started working full-time on the F1 cars.
@@yugarten8523 Saddled with underpowered Renault engines for the most part... For most of the 2010's the Renault hybrid engine was 40hp or more down, it doesn't how good your chassis or aero is with that kind of disadvantage.
@@yugarten8523 Remember when Mercedes wouldn't supply Red Bull with the best PU available for 2016 onwards? Remember how Mercedes had $40m in their budget for 2019 than Red Bull? Remember how Mercedes had that illegal tyre test in 2013? I guess not.
i would say the biggest factor is the suspension change that gave them the platform to then work from, almost every other team had suspension travel issues except redbull for most of the year as they had to run the car so stiff and couldn't handle bumps and kerbs, the Ferrari was the odd one since it had bouncing and stiffness but could still ride the kerbs more aggressive than anyone else in the early part of the season. and then if you add the clear straight line speed advantage they had it make its easier to develop a car when you know you have such an advantage you can run more downforce etc using the the straight line speed advantage to cover for it. no other team had this option except redbull all year. when you have 0.3+ sec advantage on straight over almost everyone makes life easy.
But they were slower than mecs on corners, only straights don't make it easy for your brother. Because by your logic, last year merc was the fastest car as they were the quickest in straights.
@@Ghost-fz7to yes merc and ferrari was faster through the corners but not fast enough to make up the loss they we having on the straights to redbull, a few races to point this out jedah, Bahrain, spa, monza, COTA, Mexico, Abu Dahbi, French GP, Austria just to name a few these tracks. but if you take quali out of it cause ferrari had the faster quali car all year tbh. the redbull straight line speed gave then huge advantages in the race when DRS could not be used vs everyone else. SO about last year merc at the start of the year it was slower than the redbull until Silverstone where the upgrades they brought unlocked the cars true pace, from there the merc and redbull were more or less equal only specific tracks showed the advantages of the cars example dutch GP and qatar last year really showed how the car specific features can be good and bad points. redbull began running skinny wings in the 2nd of the season to try and match the merc new straight line speed but they still had the downforce to match the merc. while merc were running bigger rear wings to get the extra downforce they needed so both teams had a advantages then began making compromise to make up for the other. you could say brazil, jedah and last race of last season hamltion straight line speed advantage was more down to him been able to run that new engine at a much higher mode as it was basically built for 3 races so he had way more power, if you compared his speed to bottas was so running the engine in the more normal mode to last more races.
A dominant F1 car is never down to one specific component. Everything has to work together perfectly. Only then its possible to have a dominating car. So saying the suspension was the main factor - the argument is diffucult to sustain, especially as the Ferrari was not less effective in the first half of the season when riding kerbs etc. At the end of the day, if anything, then it was the aerodynamic concept of Red Bull. It relied more on diffuser performance with tunnels with a high roof and a lot of vortices creators. They opened up the diffusers sidewalls and energised the vortices by air from the top the floor. Their car bssically worked more like a flat-floor car, less dependant on low ride heights. The Ferrari on the other hand, with very low tunnels relied more on floor performance itself, dependant on low ride heights. As TD39 basically made higher ride heights mandatory, the aero concept of the RB18 benefitted, while the concept of the F1-75 suffered negatively. So - at the end of the day it was without a doubt the aero concept of the RB18 that was the true secret, and it has to be said that the reason was a midseason change in the technical regulations. Some fans of Red Bull and the RB18 may not like it - but its not only a fact, but technically as simple as clear and like simple maths.
The 2 factors that set RB apart was their floor was shaped in a way that never let the flow be completely interrupted by the car's proximity to the track. And secondly they controlled the rear floor edge with the "skate" that never let it seal. Both gave them better control over how quickly negative pressure developed and allowed better matching of the rising aero load to the suspensions spring and damper rates.
Excellent points! Don't forget the aluminium stiffening brace for the floor located inside the sidepods too, that was much more effective than stays. Minimising porpoising instabilities was taken into account in the original design of the RB18, which did not seem to be the case for every car on the grid!
@@vinnie4v277 Yes, that's how F1 works. It's an engineering competition. The driver is necessary to finish the job but represents maybe 5-10% of the final performance level.
Don't think the RB18 was soo dominant! It was mostly a combination of very good base car made by Adrian Newey, very good strategic decisions made by Hannah Schmitz and very good driving, nearly faultless, done by Max. The people were dominant, the car not so much, see amount of poles and Sérgio's results!
That's why the video says "tech concepts" you are focusing on people, the easy part. Ironically, you forgot to mention Christian and Helmut, who put those people there and gave them the right resources.
As much as I follow F1 and am an RB fan, the technology in this sport becomes more fascinating week on week, year on year, its on par with NASA. Every team deserves more recognition than they get. True wizardry.
The car was probably the least dominant part of the team though. It was their ability trackside being so much better than Ferraris that made this championship. Max is just on another level and they almost always nail the strategy/setup. The only reason the car was so dominant at the end was because Ferrari likely had already moved on to 2023.
actually loved the first part of the season when Charles was head to head with Max - Ferrari as a team failed on an epic scale - it should have been a battle to the very end. Superb driving from Max, strategic planning on another level, best car designer, best support team, best management: dream team. I didn't like Max at first - thought he was extremely arrogant BUT he's so committed to what he does - if every person on this planet had that attitude we'd be a phenomenal planet to live on. Only the best, second best just won't cut it.
Let's not forget the RB17 hyper track car that just so happens to use ground effects, f1 technology, Adrian Newey as the main designer and obviously unlimited time on the wind tunnel
Ferrari and Mercedes have similar shift of personel to gain knowledge, but it's definitely unfair for teams like haas or alpha romeo who don't have the money to do such projects. It's incredibly hard to police this, as companies are allowed to spend their money on any projects they want outside of F1, and they can gain at least knowledge for their engineers, but the FIA can't deny them that. The big teams will always be big, unless we introduce some kind of artificial capping, where you lose performance the more success you have, but that just goes against the spirit of F1.
@@mahdixn oh 100% it's unfair and near impossible to police. Honestly i think f1 teams doing road legal/track cars that are similar to their f1 cars shouldn't be allowed use that knowledge e.g setup a different company/building where that knowledge stays but then again how the hell can that be policed
@@stevenst6337 The AMG one uses a modified version of Mercedes’ 2015 engine and the only real developments they did were to make it viable for a road car.
Although the Red Bull was clearly the best car for most of the season, I wouldn't class it as dominant in the way that word's usually understood. To me, it just didn't seem that their pace advantage was particularly huge, and certainly nothing like the way Mercedes dominated the flat-bottomed hybrid era. In many ways this season reminded me of 2001, in that one car was the best but the overwhelming points advantage was more to do with rival teams slipping up and taking points off each other.
Or reliability issues. Newey’s issues in McLaren were he would push the boundaries so much and his design tolerances were so tight that unchecked they would lead to reliability issues.
@@raymondu99 His philosophy has always been to push for a good concept if the benefits justify it. He put the KERS battery between the engine and the gearbox. A very difficult place engineering wise but made sense in packaging and once they made it work, others couldn't simply copy it. This is why Newey's cars always for better throughout the season.
@@mignik01 nothing I said is contradictory to what you said. It also doesn’t change that he has a reputation for making unreliable cars. For example your arguments don’t apply to the RB5 and that had sloppy reliability too
@@23BoneCrusher666 Because an oversteering car is always quicker through a corner than an understeering car. Or as they say in NASCAR: "Loose is fast".
@@23BoneCrusher666 Yep. Basically, having a car that understeers would greatly reduce your entry/exit speeds, as you would need to enter the corner on a much slower speed just to allow the car to rotate.
I like how everyone thinks there’s some magical upgrade they did to completely change the driving style of the car lol. All of their upgrades were mostly related to weight reduction which is a simple way to gain pace. In some people’s minds I guess they should’ve left the car overweight and let Ferarri and Mercedes out develop them just so it can suit Checo better, talk about hilariously bad strategy.
Mr Newey, what a technical genius this guy is. No doubt about it if you have the best car you should produce a world champion out of the 2 drivers in the team.
The massive advantage on the straights allowed for more coasting through the corners, and less stress on the tyres. Having every overtake be a cakewalk was very helpful. Perez didn't do nearly enough with the car, while Verstappen knocked it out of the park. Then again, the car was probably more adapted to VER.
You guys completely forgot about how the RB18 can stall the rear diffuser on a straight to have a drastic top speed advantage which is how it made 90% of it's passes. Big goof
Redbull fans like to put Max on a pedestal, and after spending years downplaying Hamilton's performance, saying oh it's the car, now RedBull built a rocket ship of a car and they are now downplaying how dominant the car was. Did you all miss the part that the car won 17 of the 22 races in 2022? Remember the time Max started 14th or so and still won by a mile? Ferrari was at par with Redbull in the first few races, but after that they tailed off in development. The Redbull straight-line speed was insane, they were just passing other cars as if they were standing still. You don't have to be as superior as the W11 to be considered dominant. 0.3 to 0.4 sec faster than your rivals in race trim is enough. Forget about the number of poles that Ferrari got with Leclerc, it was the race pace that mattered. You can always optimize a car for a single lap, but come to the race, it is slow. I am not taking away Max's talents, he has it in abundance, but to say the 2022 Redbull was not dominant is preposterous. Congratulations to Redbull for building a rocket ship, and Max put it to good use, and they won both championships. Even Horner himself said it a few times. "We have the fastest car on the grid". Who are we to keep apologizing for them. Time to move on. It is the car. Nothing to see here.
forgot to mention horizontal floor contraction. It allows to push the center of the pressure fwd - relative positioning of tight points of the floor to each other: horizontal (more fwd) & vertical (further aft). Source - visual observation after crash (car on crane).
Im not Red Bull, or Verstappen's biggest fan...ill leave that there 🤣🤣... But that doesn't distract from the epic season they had. That Newey genius, and maxs undeniable speed, in the car worked amazingly! From a lifelong Mclaren, Mansell, Button, Ricciardo 😬, and Norris fan 💪
McLaren MP4-4 is still the most dominant F1 car in history of F1 having won 15 out of 16 races, that's 93.8%. RedBull RB18 has won 17 out of 22 races, which makes it 77.3%.
I just loved how in pre season testing people thought the ine team with a completely different car than the rest of the grid was going to be the fastest just because it was Mercedes. With out the ability to get the FIA to help them with in season regulation changes which solely would favor Mercedes they are a non factor. All those titles were due to endless money being spemd to develop that car. Once a spending cap was implemented all the other teams were so far behind took them years to catch up.
It's an insult to Adrian Neweys vast technical prolificacy to suggest that an undeclared $500k is the reason why this car is what it is. People just love to hate on greatness, Just ask LeBron James.
@@ApplesAndOranges188 its not abt questioning them abt the costcap, anybody can question them abt it. the ridiculous thing is saying they won the championship just because of the cost cap breach, especially considering it was a very minor one.thats just nonsense.
Whilst covering the 2021 overspend, didn't cover the fact that the 2021 regulation changes meant that Red Bull didn't have to commit as much 2021 resource on the 2021 car and therefore allowed more resource to be put to 2022 (compared with Mercedes needing to devote more 2021 resources to catch up)
amazing luck for redbull that the engine freeze they wanted came through, right after they complained they wouldnt be able to develop with ferrari mercedes and renault, and then so happened to have honda develop the best engine but whoops, rivals cant beat them now because theres a freeze. how lucky
It wasn't that much of a 'Monster'. Wasn't the fastest car on a Saturday, wasn't inevitable in the hands of Perez, wasn't the fastest car in the 1st half of the season. It was a great car, driven by the best pilot.
So suitable weight distribution for Cheo's driving style could have helped? Genius Adrian Newey+Max's flawless driving+ great race strategy+ reliable honda engine+ race to race development---everything for rivals especially Ferrari to learn from...... I am sure Red Bull will be equally dominant in 2023, Any limitations on testing etc won't affect much. I only feel they should not develop their car around Max only.
Given that, in the RB18, Red Bull have a solid basis to work from, they'll relatively easily manage with less development time. There's already a lighter monocoque that could be worth extra tenths, and we already know Red Bull is less affected by ride height changes, so next year's regulations change little to nothing on that front. That leaves just the standard iterative work on the car, which can be relatively cheap.
There's a RACE video this year that mentions the more unstable rear (Max's preferred setup) is overall faster concept than a stable rear setup (Checo's preferred setup) thus the natural progression of car development does sway towards Max
The beginning of the year the car had understeer and Checo was still slower. He fluked a podium, that he admitted himself he couldn't do again with 1000 laps. What they need to do is replace Checo with a better driver. Just FYI, Villenueve said in 2020 that Newey prefers to design a car this way because it's quicker, or has the potential to be quicker. So it's probably more likely that they wanted a driver like Verstappen who could drive a car the way Newey wants to make it.
I think the reliability problems with Ferrari was intentional. Since they can make reliability upgrades and not power upgraded to the power unit. They just built the most powerful engine they could and was just gonna use the permission from the FIA to make it more reliable and thus be able to use more power for next season
Yep. You can turn a powerful unreliable engine into something reliable. But a slow, reliable engine can't be made faster with this freeze. I think Alpine was doing the same.
Not even Vettel had a car as dominant as the one Max had the privilage to drive this year. I honestly don't see anybody challenging Red Bull until 2026 unless the FIA come up with new regs to specifically target RB (for the sake of entertainment) the same way they targeted *Ferrari* in 2005 and *Mercedes* in 2021.
Mercedes weren’t targeted by regs in 2021. Mercedes happened to suffer, but the 15% downforce reduction was done at the request of Pirelli to prevent extreme tyre wear and blowout (after all, why would they design a whole new tyre for just one season). It was actually predicted that the changes to the floor would affect the high rake cars like Red Bull and Alpha Tauri more. Due to the higher rear height, CFD showed the lessened ability to seal the sides of the floor with vortices to be quite harmful to them. CFD doesn’t always translate into reality however, and the reality was that Mercedes weren’t as well adapted to the technical changes as other teams. This combined with Honda making strides in their engine led to the W12 and RB16B being somewhat level. It’s not targeting, if it were targeted we would have seen Mercedes drop down the grid like Ferrari in 2006, not be a frontrunner…
Don’t forget to mention that a large part of it was down Ferrari’s usual implosion and Red Bull seized what was handed to them on a gold platter. Don’t think Red Bull would have been as dominant if Merc hadn’t been their usual idiots.
@crispinbell9910 but performance is only the external factor. What affects the performance are several factors including internal ones. So, only judging by the performance alone is not accurate because it doesn’t give the whole picture.
Can anyone tell me: what forbiddens an engineer from running CFD simulations on a computer that the fia doesn't know about? Then coming back with the results and saying it's his life experience or something like that. I'm not saying that any team did this. Just wondering.
Sorry, but saying that Red Bull or Newey had a deeper understanding about the underfloor is really wrong. Indeed Red Bull did not really build a "true" ground effect car. The RB18 relied more on diffuser performance with tunnels with a high roof and a lot of vortices creators. They opened up the diffusers sidewalls and energised the vortices by air from the top the floor. So their car literally worked like a flat-floor car. And such a car is less dependant on low ride heights. The Ferrari on the other hand, with very low tunnels relied more on floor performance itself, a true ground effect car, dependant on low ride heights. As TD39 basically made higher ride heights mandatory, the aero concept of the RB18 benefitted, while the concept of the F1-75 suffered negatively. So - at the end of the day, it was not about a better understanding, but about a bold and different aero concept that worked. And it also has to be said that it was benefitted by a midseason change in the technical regulations. Some fans of Red Bull and the RB18 may not like it - but its not only a fact, but technically as simple as clear and like simple maths.
Dominant in the hands of Max, Checo not so much. How many races did he get beaten by Ferarris and Mercedes? While Max would be cruising 20 seconds ahead of 2nd and Checo is in like 5th place or some shit lmao
A bounce is a single reaction to a track feature. Porpoising is a continued, uncontrolled bouncing that happens at a frequency which is relative to the vehicle's speed (caused by the suspension's inability to deal with aero effects). Porpoising can be initiated by a single bump, but does not have to be.
Adrian Newey was the only car designer around the last time F1 has gound affect cars!!! Since Checko is not ALLOWED to win (unless MADMAX is out) easy win easy win!!
@@thedailygrind8 Again, that wasn't every race, that was mostly the early part of the first half of the season. They GOT DOMINATED at the 2nd half of the season, they lost so much performance that Mercedes almost caught up to them with their crappy car. There was 4 races in a row that Max started way behind and easily passed and won the race, without Ferrari making any mistakes. Also, being fast in qualifying means nothing. Many examples in the season where Ferrari was fast under 1 lap but their car got slower during the race because it wasn't good enough. Red Bull focused on race pace, that's why they dominated the 2nd half of the season. There wasn't enough team mistakes to make up for the points they lost to Red Bull, NOT EVEN CLOSE.
@@gpaje im not gonna waste my time reading whatever you wrote, heres a list : Austria, Baku, Monaco, Canada, Bahrain, Australia, Hungary, France, Spain where Ferrari had a faster car and lost.
@Arshman Hassan That's because you are wrong and don't want to admit it, pathetic. And again, being fast on Saturday doesn't count. Ferrari was garbage on the 2nd half of the season. Fast qualifying but slow race car.
Max lost at least 5 Poles due to Q3 mistakes on his last run by either him or the team. This would have also made them fastest over a single lap. Max poor quali form at the start of the season made the Ferrari the quickest over one lap statistically. In reality the RB was the quickest car on Saturday and Sunday.
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That's not true at all. Max won the championship by 145 points, he could have sat out the final 6 races, while Charles had to win all 6 to win the championship. Max could have finished 2nd while Charles finished 1st and Max still would have won by 80 points! Ferrari was only strong in the first 1/3rd of the season, and they fell back on their own, even without the early mistakes. There isn't enough mistakes Ferrari made to make up for their lack of performance at the 2nd half of the season.
@@loknathshankar5423 Red Bull and Max combo, the car is built around Max, and that's what matters. They won both championships, by a lot, the drivers and manufacturers, it wasn't even close. Red Bull's 2nd driver always suffers due to this strategy of building the team around Max, but he was so dominate in that car they still won the team championship by a lot. You think he would have done that in either Mercedes or Ferrari this year? Both had their problems with performance and reliability, the Ferrari sucked so much Mercedes almost caught them by the end of the year.
1. Adrian Newey and his team 2. RBR’s violation of the budget cap 3. Max Verstappen and how well he got to grips with the car 4. Ferrari’s unbelivable, humiliating incomptence- birdering on unprofessionalism. if Verstappen didn’t win the championship then he and RBR did not deserve bith championship. Ferrari gave away at least 10 (yes: TEN) races to RBR.
Nope that's a absolute lie... it was $2m... NOT £400K... it wS very clear what they were fined for. The fia specifically say they were fined for $2m over spend. It's in the document and you guys know this.. so stop lying.
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It’s amazing how far clear they were by the end of the year after it looked so close to begin with
It wasn't so much them improving (reliability issues aside) but Ferrari falling backwards.
The mid-season TD, whether teams want to admit or not, affected others much more than RB.
RB is working like a well oiled machine.
Ferrari clearly lacks the experience of fighting for a world championship.
Given how many internal shifts there were in the past eight years, it's more or less like a young team without any experience.
Cracking under pressure, not being able to develop as fast as their direct competitors.
They were effectively fighting with Mercedes and not with RB.
The reason is pretty clear: TD39
They "only" had to shape up some things and do a few weight reductions.
While Ferrari and Mercedes for example had much bigger concerns with their designs.
I think thats what helped them throughout the season.
Newey. 10 times wdc winning cars. Absolute legend of this sport.
Something that wasn't mentioned, Max Verstappen. If Checo was the leader and Max wasn't there, would we think about the RB18 the same way we do today? Max is the driver who produced all that potential the car had to offer. It all works together (obviously) but without Max you'd never really know it.
Except at the beginning of the season when the car suited Checko n MADMAX complained!
@@southerncomfort1339 you realize all RB did to make the car faster was reduce the weight of the car right? So how exactly is taking weight off the car have anything to with driving styles and it not suiting Checo and whatever other excuse you can come up with. In Baku Checo out qualified Max, and then proceeded to get gapped by 20 seconds in the race, what’s the excuse for that race? Or the 15 other races I can sample from where Max is dusting the entire field and Checo is struggling to pass a Mercedes/Ferarri.
@@southerncomfort1339 i believe the beginning of season 2022, Max complained about reliability issues. It had nothing to do about the design being suited to Checo. Rather, Max's car had gremlins his driving style and/or adaptability can not control.
Newey. Just Newey. And a world class driver.
where was he between 2014 - 2020 ?
@@yugarten8523 working on side projects. With their less than stellar performance during the Renault hybrid years, Newey lost interest in the F1 project, and would likely have left Red Bull if he hadn't been given the option to work on cars like the Aston Martin Valkyrie. It wasn't until Honda came aboard and Red Bull could reliably challenge Ferrari and Mercedes again, that he once again started working full-time on the F1 cars.
@@yugarten8523 Saddled with underpowered Renault engines for the most part... For most of the 2010's the Renault hybrid engine was 40hp or more down, it doesn't how good your chassis or aero is with that kind of disadvantage.
@@yugarten8523 Remember when Mercedes wouldn't supply Red Bull with the best PU available for 2016 onwards?
Remember how Mercedes had $40m in their budget for 2019 than Red Bull?
Remember how Mercedes had that illegal tyre test in 2013?
I guess not.
Newey + Max + Regs Change = 🔥
i would say the biggest factor is the suspension change that gave them the platform to then work from, almost every other team had suspension travel issues except redbull for most of the year as they had to run the car so stiff and couldn't handle bumps and kerbs, the Ferrari was the odd one since it had bouncing and stiffness but could still ride the kerbs more aggressive than anyone else in the early part of the season. and then if you add the clear straight line speed advantage they had it make its easier to develop a car when you know you have such an advantage you can run more downforce etc using the the straight line speed advantage to cover for it. no other team had this option except redbull all year. when you have 0.3+ sec advantage on straight over almost everyone makes life easy.
But they were slower than mecs on corners, only straights don't make it easy for your brother. Because by your logic, last year merc was the fastest car as they were the quickest in straights.
@@Ghost-fz7to yes merc and ferrari was faster through the corners but not fast enough to make up the loss they we having on the straights to redbull, a few races to point this out jedah, Bahrain, spa, monza, COTA, Mexico, Abu Dahbi, French GP, Austria just to name a few these tracks. but if you take quali out of it cause ferrari had the faster quali car all year tbh. the redbull straight line speed gave then huge advantages in the race when DRS could not be used vs everyone else. SO about last year merc at the start of the year it was slower than the redbull until Silverstone where the upgrades they brought unlocked the cars true pace, from there the merc and redbull were more or less equal only specific tracks showed the advantages of the cars example dutch GP and qatar last year really showed how the car specific features can be good and bad points. redbull began running skinny wings in the 2nd of the season to try and match the merc new straight line speed but they still had the downforce to match the merc. while merc were running bigger rear wings to get the extra downforce they needed so both teams had a advantages then began making compromise to make up for the other. you could say brazil, jedah and last race of last season hamltion straight line speed advantage was more down to him been able to run that new engine at a much higher mode as it was basically built for 3 races so he had way more power, if you compared his speed to bottas was so running the engine in the more normal mode to last more races.
A dominant F1 car is never down to one specific component. Everything has to work together perfectly. Only then its possible to have a dominating car. So saying the suspension was the main factor - the argument is diffucult to sustain, especially as the Ferrari was not less effective in the first half of the season when riding kerbs etc. At the end of the day, if anything, then it was the aerodynamic concept of Red Bull. It relied more on diffuser performance with tunnels with a high roof and a lot of vortices creators. They opened up the diffusers sidewalls and energised the vortices by air from the top the floor. Their car bssically worked more like a flat-floor car, less dependant on low ride heights. The Ferrari on the other hand, with very low tunnels relied more on floor performance itself, dependant on low ride heights. As TD39 basically made higher ride heights mandatory, the aero concept of the RB18 benefitted, while the concept of the F1-75 suffered negatively. So - at the end of the day it was without a doubt the aero concept of the RB18 that was the true secret, and it has to be said that the reason was a midseason change in the technical regulations. Some fans of Red Bull and the RB18 may not like it - but its not only a fact, but technically as simple as clear and like simple maths.
don't forget suspension rules were changed this year hydraulic suspension was outlawed
The 2 factors that set RB apart was their floor was shaped in a way that never let the flow be completely interrupted by the car's proximity to the track. And secondly they controlled the rear floor edge with the "skate" that never let it seal. Both gave them better control over how quickly negative pressure developed and allowed better matching of the rising aero load to the suspensions spring and damper rates.
Excellent points! Don't forget the aluminium stiffening brace for the floor located inside the sidepods too, that was much more effective than stays. Minimising porpoising instabilities was taken into account in the original design of the RB18, which did not seem to be the case for every car on the grid!
@@TassieLorenzo the fact they crack the porpoising puzzle early with the sculpted sidepods was key as well
So who won the who is the smartest battle
@@vinnie4v277 Yes, that's how F1 works. It's an engineering competition. The driver is necessary to finish the job but represents maybe 5-10% of the final performance level.
@@TassieLorenzo You couldnt explain it better
Don't think the RB18 was soo dominant! It was mostly a combination of very good base car made by Adrian Newey, very good strategic decisions made by Hannah Schmitz and very good driving, nearly faultless, done by Max. The people were dominant, the car not so much, see amount of poles and Sérgio's results!
Absolutely - and exacerbated by other teams blundering on design philosophy and strategy.
Exactly a dominant car would be more like W11 where everyone else had years of engineering but couldnt come close to it
@@san-joshuabarrett that's the 🇬🇧 way
hannah absolutely slamming the rest of the grid tbh
That's why the video says "tech concepts" you are focusing on people, the easy part. Ironically, you forgot to mention Christian and Helmut, who put those people there and gave them the right resources.
"Progress is a race that..." *double tap*
As much as I follow F1 and am an RB fan, the technology in this sport becomes more fascinating week on week, year on year, its on par with NASA. Every team deserves more recognition than they get. True wizardry.
@telgramme--THE_RACE1 DM where?
@not_reds Thought so mate. Thank you. Have a lovely Christmas 🎄
The car was probably the least dominant part of the team though. It was their ability trackside being so much better than Ferraris that made this championship. Max is just on another level and they almost always nail the strategy/setup. The only reason the car was so dominant at the end was because Ferrari likely had already moved on to 2023.
actually loved the first part of the season when Charles was head to head with Max - Ferrari as a team failed on an epic scale - it should have been a battle to the very end. Superb driving from Max, strategic planning on another level, best car designer, best support team, best management: dream team. I didn't like Max at first - thought he was extremely arrogant BUT he's so committed to what he does - if every person on this planet had that attitude we'd be a phenomenal planet to live on. Only the best, second best just won't cut it.
Excellent Technical Breakdown, thank you!
Let's not forget the RB17 hyper track car that just so happens to use ground effects, f1 technology, Adrian Newey as the main designer and obviously unlimited time on the wind tunnel
Ferrari and Mercedes have similar shift of personel to gain knowledge, but it's definitely unfair for teams like haas or alpha romeo who don't have the money to do such projects. It's incredibly hard to police this, as companies are allowed to spend their money on any projects they want outside of F1, and they can gain at least knowledge for their engineers, but the FIA can't deny them that. The big teams will always be big, unless we introduce some kind of artificial capping, where you lose performance the more success you have, but that just goes against the spirit of F1.
Yeah and Mercedes came out with the AMG one which literally has an Mercedes F1 hybrid engine in it. And engine development is supposed to be frozen.
@@stevenst6337 it didn't use ground effects and also the amgf1 is ancient at this stage
@@mahdixn oh 100% it's unfair and near impossible to police. Honestly i think f1 teams doing road legal/track cars that are similar to their f1 cars shouldn't be allowed use that knowledge e.g setup a different company/building where that knowledge stays but then again how the hell can that be policed
@@stevenst6337 The AMG one uses a modified version of Mercedes’ 2015 engine and the only real developments they did were to make it viable for a road car.
the race every 30 secs " and did you know this video is sponsored by Aramco?"
Newey did his dissertation at uni on ground effect is why they had an advantage.
Bro that was over 25 years ago , I can't even remember what I did last week
@@Rampage1Rules Just cuz your memory is dogshit doesn’t mean everyone else is the same.
@@quigglyz lol , like yours isn't?
That was quarter of a century ago and he did his dissertation on sports cars. Not F1
@@quigglyz I don't even remember why I was typing this comment
We need more comparison on the power unit. Mostly for next year.
Easy, the engine runs on 100% Red Bull.
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Although the Red Bull was clearly the best car for most of the season, I wouldn't class it as dominant in the way that word's usually understood. To me, it just didn't seem that their pace advantage was particularly huge, and certainly nothing like the way Mercedes dominated the flat-bottomed hybrid era. In many ways this season reminded me of 2001, in that one car was the best but the overwhelming points advantage was more to do with rival teams slipping up and taking points off each other.
Rb was only the best car after summer break....
So ferarrinwas the much better car for the majority of the season.
They just made mistakes
If the car is that much better then what does that say about Sergio Perez.
Verstapen is in a class of his own
It says that Checo is an average midfield driver lucky to be in a RB. Max is good but not as far off Lewis or Charles as Checo makes him look.
"There's no magic bullet in modern F1"
Tell that to Adrian Newey lmao
Unless it has significant HP deficit, RBR would always be competetive.
Or reliability issues. Newey’s issues in McLaren were he would push the boundaries so much and his design tolerances were so tight that unchecked they would lead to reliability issues.
It was mostly a Mercedes issue.
@@mignik01 in fairness there were also car issues. Even to the Red Bull days we sometimes have unreliable cars
@@raymondu99 His philosophy has always been to push for a good concept if the benefits justify it. He put the KERS battery between the engine and the gearbox. A very difficult place engineering wise but made sense in packaging and once they made it work, others couldn't simply copy it. This is why Newey's cars always for better throughout the season.
@@mignik01 nothing I said is contradictory to what you said. It also doesn’t change that he has a reputation for making unreliable cars. For example your arguments don’t apply to the RB5 and that had sloppy reliability too
Drivers who prefer understeer will never get the most out of a car
Why‘s that? :)
@@23BoneCrusher666 Because an oversteering car is always quicker through a corner than an understeering car. Or as they say in NASCAR: "Loose is fast".
@@bowelrupture so they can take more speed into the corner. Am I getting this right?
@@23BoneCrusher666 Yep. Basically, having a car that understeers would greatly reduce your entry/exit speeds, as you would need to enter the corner on a much slower speed just to allow the car to rotate.
I like how everyone thinks there’s some magical upgrade they did to completely change the driving style of the car lol. All of their upgrades were mostly related to weight reduction which is a simple way to gain pace. In some people’s minds I guess they should’ve left the car overweight and let Ferarri and Mercedes out develop them just so it can suit Checo better, talk about hilariously bad strategy.
Mr Newey, what a technical genius this guy is. No doubt about it if you have the best car you should produce a world champion out of the 2 drivers in the team.
RB18 is such a beautiful car. A masterpiece for the modern F1.
The massive advantage on the straights allowed for more coasting through the corners, and less stress on the tyres. Having every overtake be a cakewalk was very helpful. Perez didn't do nearly enough with the car, while Verstappen knocked it out of the park. Then again, the car was probably more adapted to VER.
Everyone keeps talking about how dominant this car was but it wasn’t like max and checo were just driving off and getting 1-2’s every race
Cause checo is a midfield driver
@crispinbell9910 in a 2019 merc
@CrispinBell russel and sainz have shown that they can compete against their current teammates. Perez hasnt
Which team do you support?
@crispinbell9910the only reason perez won that race was because george got a puncture
You guys completely forgot about how the RB18 can stall the rear diffuser on a straight to have a drastic top speed advantage which is how it made 90% of it's passes. Big goof
Redbull fans like to put Max on a pedestal, and after spending years downplaying Hamilton's performance, saying oh it's the car, now RedBull built a rocket ship of a car and they are now downplaying how dominant the car was. Did you all miss the part that the car won 17 of the 22 races in 2022? Remember the time Max started 14th or so and still won by a mile? Ferrari was at par with Redbull in the first few races, but after that they tailed off in development. The Redbull straight-line speed was insane, they were just passing other cars as if they were standing still.
You don't have to be as superior as the W11 to be considered dominant. 0.3 to 0.4 sec faster than your rivals in race trim is enough. Forget about the number of poles that Ferrari got with Leclerc, it was the race pace that mattered. You can always optimize a car for a single lap, but come to the race, it is slow.
I am not taking away Max's talents, he has it in abundance, but to say the 2022 Redbull was not dominant is preposterous. Congratulations to Redbull for building a rocket ship, and Max put it to good use, and they won both championships. Even Horner himself said it a few times. "We have the fastest car on the grid". Who are we to keep apologizing for them.
Time to move on. It is the car. Nothing to see here.
Yeah I mean RB did have a 1-2 like every weekend. Oh wait......
Maybe write a few more dissertations to help cope with the fact that Verstappen is better than your favourite driver.
Well, it's obv you just a salty toxic fanboy that can't handle that merc was bad this year. Move on kiddo
forgot to mention horizontal floor contraction. It allows to push the center of the pressure fwd -
relative positioning of tight points of the floor to each other: horizontal (more fwd) & vertical (further aft).
Source - visual observation after crash (car on crane).
Im not Red Bull, or Verstappen's biggest fan...ill leave that there 🤣🤣... But that doesn't distract from the epic season they had. That Newey genius, and maxs undeniable speed, in the car worked amazingly!
From a lifelong Mclaren, Mansell, Button, Ricciardo 😬, and Norris fan 💪
McLaren MP4-4 is still the most dominant F1 car in history of F1 having won 15 out of 16 races, that's 93.8%. RedBull RB18 has won 17 out of 22 races, which makes it 77.3%.
Great video guys
I just loved how in pre season testing people thought the ine team with a completely different car than the rest of the grid was going to be the fastest just because it was Mercedes.
With out the ability to get the FIA to help them with in season regulation changes which solely would favor Mercedes they are a non factor.
All those titles were due to endless money being spemd to develop that car.
Once a spending cap was implemented all the other teams were so far behind took them years to catch up.
*Progess is a race that has no end*
SKIP SKIP SKIP
The answer is simple: The TD39. Compare Hungary's lap times with Belgium's lap times....
Thank Mercedes for that one lol
Comparing a high a downforce track with a low downforce track? What a genius you are my god.
I hate the fact that they got it right but my f*cking god! DID THEY GET IT RIGHT! That RB18 was a monster and just proved Nuey is a Legend!!
7:21 Fule leak 🤣
the rb18 achieved legendary status. possibly the best f1 car of all time.
Rb9 is more dominant
So Lewis Hamilton was fighting Max for the title again ?
How many wins did Lewis get in 2022 ?
*Totto has subscribed to The Race for those Redbull secrets* 🧐😅
"Progress is a race that has no e-"
*aggressive double tapping*
It's an insult to Adrian Neweys vast technical prolificacy to suggest that an undeclared $500k is the reason why this car is what it is.
People just love to hate on greatness, Just ask LeBron James.
ya, ppl have come up with some weird theories to justify how the breach is EXACTLY the reason y RB won.!!
If they had stayed within the cap no one would question them so they did it to themselves
@@ApplesAndOranges188 its not abt questioning them abt the costcap, anybody can question them abt it. the ridiculous thing is saying they won the championship just because of the cost cap breach, especially considering it was a very minor one.thats just nonsense.
Lol the 2022 car looks like a go kart compared to the 2023 hyperspace warp ship Red Bull have produced. It's insane.
In other words, RedBull built a rocket ship.
The true dominant force was at the wheel of the nr. 1 car.
Dominant RB only in Max hands unlike the Mercedes dominance where it didn’t matter who was driving. One day our British friends run out of excuses
Whilst covering the 2021 overspend, didn't cover the fact that the 2021 regulation changes meant that Red Bull didn't have to commit as much 2021 resource on the 2021 car and therefore allowed more resource to be put to 2022 (compared with Mercedes needing to devote more 2021 resources to catch up)
mercedes was better in 2021, it was the redbull that was trying to catch up.
@@mvh996that rb was clear of the mercedes what are you talking about
There's no such thing as a magic bullet in modern F1, *ahem* DAS!
The RB18 was so dominant for one reason only: 18 is my lucky number
amazing luck for redbull that the engine freeze they wanted came through, right after they complained they wouldnt be able to develop with ferrari mercedes and renault, and then so happened to have honda develop the best engine but whoops, rivals cant beat them now because theres a freeze. how lucky
It wasn't that much of a 'Monster'. Wasn't the fastest car on a Saturday, wasn't inevitable in the hands of Perez, wasn't the fastest car in the 1st half of the season. It was a great car, driven by the best pilot.
Red Bull gave itself a big advantage by developing the Aston Martin Valkyrie. A car which generates grip out of ground effect.
So suitable weight distribution for Cheo's driving style could have helped? Genius Adrian Newey+Max's flawless driving+ great race strategy+ reliable honda engine+ race to race development---everything for rivals especially Ferrari to learn from...... I am sure Red Bull will be equally dominant in 2023, Any limitations on testing etc won't affect much. I only feel they should not develop their car around Max only.
Given that, in the RB18, Red Bull have a solid basis to work from, they'll relatively easily manage with less development time. There's already a lighter monocoque that could be worth extra tenths, and we already know Red Bull is less affected by ride height changes, so next year's regulations change little to nothing on that front. That leaves just the standard iterative work on the car, which can be relatively cheap.
There's a RACE video this year that mentions the more unstable rear (Max's preferred setup) is overall faster concept than a stable rear setup (Checo's preferred setup) thus the natural progression of car development does sway towards Max
The beginning of the year the car had understeer and Checo was still slower. He fluked a podium, that he admitted himself he couldn't do again with 1000 laps. What they need to do is replace Checo with a better driver. Just FYI, Villenueve said in 2020 that Newey prefers to design a car this way because it's quicker, or has the potential to be quicker. So it's probably more likely that they wanted a driver like Verstappen who could drive a car the way Newey wants to make it.
@@halofreak1990 yes, it is a complete package.
Can we get a tech secrets video about every car on the grid? more content, if you need, multiple cars per video
I think the reliability problems with Ferrari was intentional. Since they can make reliability upgrades and not power upgraded to the power unit. They just built the most powerful engine they could and was just gonna use the permission from the FIA to make it more reliable and thus be able to use more power for next season
It was ferraris plan the whole time start of season they said this is a year for making reliability and ironing out issues
Yep. You can turn a powerful unreliable engine into something reliable. But a slow, reliable engine can't be made faster with this freeze. I think Alpine was doing the same.
simple answer because max was driving it
@@harryballs3445 so they would do something? Nice double negative
The only right answer
He's good yes, but put him in a Williams and see.
@@soundscape26 no one could win in a williams, what a dumb comment
@@mrmemes9306 You clearly didn't get my comment.
Not even Vettel had a car as dominant as the one Max had the privilage to drive this year. I honestly don't see anybody challenging Red Bull until 2026 unless the FIA come up with new regs to specifically target RB (for the sake of entertainment) the same way they targeted *Ferrari* in 2005 and *Mercedes* in 2021.
The car in which Vettel won his 9 consecutive races in 2013 was high up there as well.
Cough RB9 Cough
Mercedes weren’t targeted by regs in 2021.
Mercedes happened to suffer, but the 15% downforce reduction was done at the request of Pirelli to prevent extreme tyre wear and blowout (after all, why would they design a whole new tyre for just one season).
It was actually predicted that the changes to the floor would affect the high rake cars like Red Bull and Alpha Tauri more. Due to the higher rear height, CFD showed the lessened ability to seal the sides of the floor with vortices to be quite harmful to them.
CFD doesn’t always translate into reality however, and the reality was that Mercedes weren’t as well adapted to the technical changes as other teams. This combined with Honda making strides in their engine led to the W12 and RB16B being somewhat level.
It’s not targeting, if it were targeted we would have seen Mercedes drop down the grid like Ferrari in 2006, not be a frontrunner…
@@tyler_bt3326 Honda's 2021 engine was completely new design completed in 6 months
@@classicsportclassictiyl8547 I know
It wasn't just the car. It was mostly the man driving it. If Max wasn't in that car, we might have seen a Merc or Ferari winning the championship
What about merc having had ftx as a sponsor? Shady finances there possibly?
"There's no such thing as a magic bullet in F1"
> Ferrari's 2019 power unit entered the chat
W11 76%
RB 18 77%
Don’t forget to mention that a large part of it was down Ferrari’s usual implosion and Red Bull seized what was handed to them on a gold platter. Don’t think Red Bull would have been as dominant if Merc hadn’t been their usual idiots.
@crispinbell9910 but performance is only the external factor. What affects the performance are several factors including internal ones. So, only judging by the performance alone is not accurate because it doesn’t give the whole picture.
Yet again with Aramco
Why not do a story on how Ferrari Went from a huge lead to the trash bin by making poor choices in the races.
A monster is technically a car that sets track records that are mind blowing. The Brawn Gp car wasn't a monster.
5:16 by murder!
7:22 a 'fule leak' eh? LoL
Can anyone tell me: what forbiddens an engineer from running CFD simulations on a computer that the fia doesn't know about? Then coming back with the results and saying it's his life experience or something like that.
I'm not saying that any team did this. Just wondering.
Sorry, but saying that Red Bull or Newey had a deeper understanding about the underfloor is really wrong. Indeed Red Bull did not really build a "true" ground effect car. The RB18 relied more on diffuser performance with tunnels with a high roof and a lot of vortices creators. They opened up the diffusers sidewalls and energised the vortices by air from the top the floor. So their car literally worked like a flat-floor car. And such a car is less dependant on low ride heights. The Ferrari on the other hand, with very low tunnels relied more on floor performance itself, a true ground effect car, dependant on low ride heights. As TD39 basically made higher ride heights mandatory, the aero concept of the RB18 benefitted, while the concept of the F1-75 suffered negatively. So - at the end of the day, it was not about a better understanding, but about a bold and different aero concept that worked. And it also has to be said that it was benefitted by a midseason change in the technical regulations. Some fans of Red Bull and the RB18 may not like it - but its not only a fact, but technically as simple as clear and like simple maths.
the amount of ads recently has made this channel unwatchable for me :/
Dominant in the hands of Max, Checo not so much. How many races did he get beaten by Ferarris and Mercedes? While Max would be cruising 20 seconds ahead of 2nd and Checo is in like 5th place or some shit lmao
God Bless that Genuis of a Man Adrian Newey
PROGRESS IS A RACE THAT HAS NO END…… 🙃🙃🙃
all love to the race but could we not take money from aramco on a baseline humanitarian level?
What is the precise difference between porpoising and bouncing?
A bounce is a single reaction to a track feature. Porpoising is a continued, uncontrolled bouncing that happens at a frequency which is relative to the vehicle's speed (caused by the suspension's inability to deal with aero effects). Porpoising can be initiated by a single bump, but does not have to be.
Ngl guys the constant Aramco shilling is pretty embarrassing
Letting go of Adrian Newey is the biggest mistake Williams F1 ever made. They have paid for it ever since
That's because Red Bull gives you (upside down) Wings
i have never hated something soooo much in entire life soo far. A CAR not the video, great analyses as always.
Good and dominant season, tbh Ferrari could have come back and won if they didn't give up halfway and stop the cars development helf way
It means Ferrari wasn't good enough right? You need to be good all season to win.
It was all Max, just look at the results of Perez
How do you know them if they're secrets.
Also. First, btw
@PC_Modder It was not a bad video. Then again how do you keep pumping content in the off-season when nothing happens?
nice
Adrian Newey was the only car designer around the last time F1 has gound affect cars!!! Since Checko is not ALLOWED to win (unless MADMAX is out) easy win easy win!!
I think the car only looked so fast because of Max. Look at Checo how he underperformed most of the season.
I thought Andretti won…
Curious choice of words 'full blown ground effects' we can only dream they would let them blow the floors..
nah it was dominant in the second half for sure but Ferrari's mistakes in first half are what made Redbull look so dominant
Mistakes is part of racing right? Ferrari didn't throw it away, they never had it.
@@gpaje they did throw away, both drivers often said they had the faster car on many occasions yet they didnt win becase of team mistakes
@@thedailygrind8 Again, that wasn't every race, that was mostly the early part of the first half of the season. They GOT DOMINATED at the 2nd half of the season, they lost so much performance that Mercedes almost caught up to them with their crappy car. There was 4 races in a row that Max started way behind and easily passed and won the race, without Ferrari making any mistakes. Also, being fast in qualifying means nothing. Many examples in the season where Ferrari was fast under 1 lap but their car got slower during the race because it wasn't good enough. Red Bull focused on race pace, that's why they dominated the 2nd half of the season. There wasn't enough team mistakes to make up for the points they lost to Red Bull, NOT EVEN CLOSE.
@@gpaje im not gonna waste my time reading whatever you wrote, heres a list : Austria, Baku, Monaco, Canada, Bahrain, Australia, Hungary, France, Spain where Ferrari had a faster car and lost.
@Arshman Hassan That's because you are wrong and don't want to admit it, pathetic. And again, being fast on Saturday doesn't count. Ferrari was garbage on the 2nd half of the season. Fast qualifying but slow race car.
Max lost at least 5 Poles due to Q3 mistakes on his last run by either him or the team. This would have also made them fastest over a single lap. Max poor quali form at the start of the season made the Ferrari the quickest over one lap statistically.
In reality the RB was the quickest car on Saturday and Sunday.
I can't give a thumbs up with the sponsor. I'll skip over the sponsor chit chat and watch the rest of the video. I'm sorry if it affects how the channel performs. Sorry guys
Rb didn't dominate, Ferrari kinda dropped the ball
That's not true at all. Max won the championship by 145 points, he could have sat out the final 6 races, while Charles had to win all 6 to win the championship. Max could have finished 2nd while Charles finished 1st and Max still would have won by 80 points! Ferrari was only strong in the first 1/3rd of the season, and they fell back on their own, even without the early mistakes. There isn't enough mistakes Ferrari made to make up for their lack of performance at the 2nd half of the season.
@@gpaje Redbull and Max are not same, Max definitely dominated but not Redbull.
@@loknathshankar5423 Red Bull and Max combo, the car is built around Max, and that's what matters. They won both championships, by a lot, the drivers and manufacturers, it wasn't even close. Red Bull's 2nd driver always suffers due to this strategy of building the team around Max, but he was so dominate in that car they still won the team championship by a lot. You think he would have done that in either Mercedes or Ferrari this year? Both had their problems with performance and reliability, the Ferrari sucked so much Mercedes almost caught them by the end of the year.
1. Adrian Newey and his team
2. RBR’s violation of the budget cap
3. Max Verstappen and how well he got to grips with the car
4. Ferrari’s unbelivable, humiliating incomptence- birdering on unprofessionalism. if Verstappen didn’t win the championship then he and RBR did not deserve bith championship. Ferrari gave away at least 10 (yes: TEN) races to RBR.
It's the Honda VTEC
I'd rather you be sponsored by RAID: Shadow Legends at this point....
Why are there no comments about Aramco? The race is a shill right now.
No one going to talk about a ford redbull team up
Nope that's a absolute lie... it was $2m... NOT £400K... it wS very clear what they were fined for. The fia specifically say they were fined for $2m over spend. It's in the document and you guys know this.. so stop lying.
Could the carbon neutrality objectives of F1 be attained by using hydrogen internal combustion engines while preserving the emotion of internal combustion engines ?
Answer: everyone else got it wrong