I've been shooting for a good 3 weeks and I thin what's been said here is spot on. The first sling I got was one of those with green and red fiber optics. They're good when you're training yourself as a beginner just so you'll have some kind of reference. Unfortunately, mine broke off within 2 days because the frame was made of resin. So I was forced to train myself without the optics it came with. And through all those accumulated hours of shooting, and in-between re loading mudballs and brain processing, I 've learned so far. The fundamentals of the stance, body angling, the anchor point, minimizing the head tilt just enough to see the bands in parallel, breathing and making micro adjustments. It came down to one single point reference where the 2 bands aligned together pointing to that target. I think it's better to learn them correctly the first weeks before the motions get hardwired instead of having to unlearn them later on.
You’ve definitely been putting the practice in the right way! It’s not just about standing and randomly firing balls, hoping to get better. It’s paying attention to every small detail with each shot. Practicing perfect practice. Fair play 👍
Just started in this world. I've watched a few tutorials, and followed the advice to buy a basic, not too expensive catapult. The one I've purchased has all the scope sights in the package. I decided almost immediately that I was not going to bother with them. Having watched your tutorial, and many others, I'm glad I just went out into the back garden and practised with the basic setup. I was able to hit a target from around 10m distance. Okay, it was 20cm by 40cm, and I don't know exactly where I hit it, as I was using clay balls. Nevertheless, I was as pleased as punch to have managed that on the first shot. Thank you so much to you, and the many others that have shared the experience and knowledge they have gained over the years.
I'm using a single green optic, butterfly pull, I also shoot with a slightly canted angle to the frame. My frames are all black and can easily pick up the contrasting green dot in my peripheral vision as I keep both eyes open.
Right on my man 👍 I just got my 1st band slingshot with 2 bad ass looking "optics" sights with the fiber optic elevation indicators and a bubble level and I find it distracting to be honest 🤷 But I think after you have your basic understanding about minding ammo position in the pouch with your finding your anchor points, keep it all squared up and the same ol routine as the rest of the deadly dark arts CONSISTENCY and REPETITION as we all learn as kids, practice makes perfect with everything right down the line 😉 I made my 1st slingshot back when bart simpson was a formidable marksman. Been shooting slingshots along with many other types of ranged weapons and I find slingshot/catapulting very similar to archery in many of the basic fundamentals and schools of thought where for me the mental aspect is gotta be 85-90% of putting your ammo EXACTLY where u want it and when you get in the groove you almost can't miss. I wish I had how many shots I've taken with the deadly slingshot 🤔 if you don't mind reading a bit more I can share a few of my all time greatest slingshot hits 🎯 if your interested? But I must warn you RIGHT NOW! I don't care if your dad runs peta or you believe in things you can't understand if u do too damn bad. I'm not proud of some of my actions but I have a good reason for the things I do.. I'm not a monster 😊 Way back many MANY moons i was probably 7. And there was a bunch a kids in my neighborhood, kids used to spend most of there time outside where I come from and I was outside too, just like everyone else and I'm in my backyard practicing my slingshot skills knowing 100yrs later I'll still be goofing around with my silly slingshots right 🤭 well this kid named... We're gunna call him Michael G. or 🤔 M gaffareeli. 🤔 or some shit? Well he wasn't minding his business at all. Riding his bike up n down the street messing around with anyone he could torment.. well my backyard where I was (being good 👍 minding my business 😊) to the center line of the street was I'd say 120ft or so, nice sized lots, perfect neighborhood well until Micheal G hits the streets with bad intentions well he barks out while lurking by BET YOU CANT HIT ME! and in my mind I'm sure he announced some insensitive blasphemy, so I figured I'd call his goddamn bluff right? Now fellas.. where all gentleman here and we're all adults now Id hope right.. well c'mon guys I was like 8 yrs old. We all did weird shit sometimes right? Plus I figured the street is under attack by this lone terrorist M mcgaffatello.. So I chose a proper stone since there happened to literally be a few choice rocks at my feet and not exactly pebbles i liked stones I could get a good hold of thru the pouch, I readily prepared my stance-carefully placed my ammo/healthy chunk of solid earth this hunker of a tiny boulder of a rock and here is comes riding right in my path of launch... I had him figured for where he would be as far as his height, speed, the over distance since my window of opportunity is slim 🧐due to only having a sec or 2 I'd have eyes on this MOVING target named Mikey G 😮 Well he was right in the middle of SINGING LOUDLY 📢 BBBEEETTT YYYOOUUU CCCAA I got myself lined up ok for jumping into position and that little ecu between our ears with flawless efficiency does its thing and that perfect shot when all the math and physics works I raised up drew and released with the intuitive style id adopt and come to hone and trust decades later and 😠 release------ 💥 sounded like hitting a thick hollow tree 🤯AAAAAHHHHHHHHHH!!! 😭. 😮OOOHHH SHHHHHIIIIII I beamed him right in the dome 😮.. Now u ever do something that took action in doing like it was us that thinks about it and then we do it AND RIGHT AWAY u realize the gravity of your actions..way before before I saw the rock fly as soon as I released it just felt like it couldn't miss and GODDAMNIT it was dead nuts zeroed for the kill shot 😮 he went down of his bike and he was boogying since he was asking for this tragic perfect shot to be part of his life and he got what he asked for.. I bet me n him both learned lessons that day.. He took it like a champ and took it the best a human could with getting the skull shattered like a cheap pinyata. He legit got shot in head with a beefy rock while peddling his ass off basically demanding this happen to him like a dummy. He got up and forgot he was riding a bike and ran home jumping around and now shouting a new kinda song to saraned the whole goddamn neighborhood with now remember I'm like 7 maybe 8 and I was a rookie in the arts. People forget sometimes that a projectile covering ground fast enough is no different from a cannon ball or a slow bullet and I can guarantee you he never tried to challenge the affectivness of a dumb kid with his cheapo homemade slingshot... Now I gotta it down.. I have many more TRUE incredible shots thru-out the years and also being lucky and blessed enough to have the correct skillet to have the humble slingshot save my life and sadly be forced to "educate" a mad poisonous dangerous abomination of a beast in a battle to the death for the safety of the community and for the protection and overall well being of goddamn school children !!! after my horrendous action I'm sure I was properly reprimanded for what I have done to poor Mac g and probably apologized... I don't really remember him being around as much after that but I'm sure by now hes a positive member of society and lives a real nice productive life, and nothing bad ever happened to him again.. 👏. I didn't think I'd actually pull a magic one in a million shot like that.. its 90 percent Jedi mind power and 10 percent constantly practicing FOREVER😊
Cant even begin to say how happy i am you made this vid its cleared so many things up for me your a fucking LEGEND. i love some of the basic training vids on youtube but there,s levels to this shit and you just took me to a new level
Catty Shack Hunter I agree! I stopped looking and listening to you (sorry) and focused on your lovely spaniel! I will watch again hopefully without doggy distractions🙂
Ain't got a optic frame ! I worked it out same as u say and the same for ttf! 1optic as your dimp I'll get one ordered this week ,I want to try your green hunting series just a light version I'd say that's gonna be my season setup.tics all the boxs 95mm to deeper cup 👌ideal ,I shoot a HPH I think is the name used alot in season ! The 5mm will he'll me alot,mail ye soon mate I like them wood compost versions too😁there a while away though.👍
Thanks for the insight! I’m new to catapult, but have experience in firearms. In iron sight shooting, it’s about focusing on the front sight. So, I’m learning that in catapult shooting, you focus on the target instead? Can you do a video on proper sighting/sight picture on the catapult in depth? Cant find it anywhere in the web. Thanks!!!
You are a really skilled and confident presenter. You explain things with perfect concise precision. Were you in the army or do something similar for work?
Jason Morgan haha! I did see mate. It’s all packed and ready to go at 7am 👍 Hope you like it mate, thank you. It’s getting great reviews all over, so fingers crossed! I’m really pleased with it.
Excellent. I raised this question recently on another video ,I think one of those GKZ frames with the adjustable optics ? Because I was struggling to understand how the adjustment would work without throwing your natural line out ? Especially on an OTT frame . I can see the logic in using one on the very tip like you have yours though ,where do you get hold of fibre optic wire ? I might experiment on a old frame with thinner bands and some super glue action.
guzgrant you’ll be able to dial in an adjustable optic to a set range, but yeah you’re right, essentially it’s throwing the ball out of line, so it will only be useful at that distance. No good for hunting. This optic was put on by TBSlingshots, the guy who made the frame for me, so I don’t know where he got it I’m afraid mate.
What would you say to professional compound archers using multiple optics? It's the same principle I use multiple optics as do others with good success. I agree that you also need to learn your trajectories and distances. Optics when used correctly can be very efficient reference points.
Catapult Carnage for set distances you can learn them, but for a hunting purpose I don’t see their use. There’s never a set range or height, and there’s always an in between. To cater for all distances you’d need so many optics you’d clutter your vision and spend more time looking for the correct one. And then that’s assuming you’ve estimated the distance correctly. In my opinion, far better to use just one for hunting applications.
@@CattyShackHunter you've said there they dont work. They do work, for all distance shooting, hunting or targets whatever, I've used them in all applications. Its perfectly fine not to like them but to say they don't work isn't true. I can see why with you're aiming technique that you wouldn't get on with them because it's not true 90° aiming. It's instead of guessing hold over you have another reference or two.
Catapult Carnage I hear what you’re saying, but I still don’t agree they’re the best option for hunting situations. There’s no multi optic that’s going to work reliably for hunting situations, there’s just too many variables.
@@CattyShackHunter bow hunters been using them for years I'm not saying they are best some might not like them but they can be useful. I prefer 3 reference points myself. If i have a frame with more I'll knock the rest of bar 3 as i never really shot past 25m
I drill a hole for a short piece of the red straw from spray lube cans, easy enough to see. I'm a quarter-turn shooter and always think it's my poor eyesight as the cause of mediocre aim, but you have me wanting to try straight pouching for a while.
@@CattyShackHunter I tried last night in my 33' sunroom range. Using black tape on white can separators I save, I usually do flights of 3-4 balls and then go check the grouping (I'm nearsighted). I was getting fork hits like my early days, and the grouping was terrible if I even hit the paper! Too many years at 1\2 twist I think.
Gary Chandler sounds like there’s a bit more going on there than just a 1/4 turn difference. Whatever it may be, sounds like a case of stick to what you’re familiar with for now.
I’ve not bothered with an optic. And if I ever bothered to it would be one used only as an extension of looking down the bands ott. With regards to the comments relating to archery and using optics it’s totally different, you have the space to accommodate a sight that remains well out of the way of the arrow. The sites on compound bows are personally dialled into the specific distance. The bow sights allow for moving the sight up, down, left, right , forward and backwards....but these are for specific target competition distances and even then you find you have to fine tune your sight depending on varying wind conditions....and arrow types. If you were using the same bow sight for hunting it would be pointless as you don’t know the distance. In competitions where set distances are used it would be possible to use optics on a catapult, but for hunting there’s too many split second variables...this is where experience comes in. I see a catapult/ slingshot like a long bow.......simple, naked and effective only through practice. You can’t compare the compound bow site to a catapult optic ,compounds bows are so adaptable.....and can hide a lot of a technique faults to some degree. But different things work for different people....but for me like a longbow I keep it pure and simple. Great video and lovely dog.
There’s absolutely no answer for this mate. There’s far too many factors to take into consideration. Anchor point, strength of band, draw length, size of ammo, weather conditions. We’re all different. The only way to learn it is familiarisation with your set-up, stick to one thing and learn it inside out. Repeated practice at varying ranges every time you go out. Just shooting straight targets at 10m you’ll nothing other than how to shoot that target. Shoot up, shoot down, shoot at angles, shoot at varying ranges, it’s the only way to learn.
What it do nice video as always I have a slingshot that has double lopped tubes that has two on each side I'm trying to get the right tube size for hunting purposes only no target shooting the 2632 are out the that's what came on the slingshot prior to new so I'm trying to decide on 2040-1842-1745-2050-2055-3060 what can you with on getting ready for a good hunting setup and ammo once again nice video
Hi mate still learning what set up would you say is best suited for 9.5 steel for hunting, also where in the UK are you be great to meet up for a shoot and learn hands on from you 👍
For OTT ....I think just putting a tape or mark some horizontal lines on the inside face of the fork tip should give a much better elevation/distance marker options.... rather than offset optics!?
It still wouldn’t work. The catapult obscures what you’re aiming at when you hold over, unless you shoot both eyes open (I do) That being the case, you still can’t focus on two things at once. The target at distance, and the measurement lines 3 feet away on the catapult. So any aiming device needs to be able to be clear enough to be seen in your peripheral vision. Temperature also changes the performance of bands constantly, so balls strike higher or lower on what can be a daily basis sometimes, especially in winter. They simply don’t work. Everybody’s trajectory is also different, depending on weight of ball, strength of band, length of draw. A single optic is the only way, in my opinion, if you must have one.
@@CattyShackHunter Yes, true....there are just too many variables in hunting ......as even functionally, it would only potentially work if the fork tip are held in a true vertical position...so the bands would become the vertical cross hair.... and then horizontal lines could be seen and act as a kind of... half black out scope =l if that makes sense. However might be good for fixed or field target work
I can get optic spot on problem I have is I can put optic at just at side of target bottom of target top of target. But I have a problem putting it dead on target itself whether its psychological or not. Should I set optic bit higher and put it just under target to hit target
Hi Wayne....great tutorial there pal......as there is no palm swell on the goblet.... is it ok (ie .....won’t affect accuracy) to have the grip pulled back into your hand as you had ( you had to on a/c of the heavy bands)......put another way the ENTIRE catty is not parallel to you or the target....Is that method ok to practice?????
Charles Campbell I shoot with the catapult angled forwards so my wrist is straight, it’s a stronger position to shoot a heavy band with because the pressure is coming directly back through my arm. My catapults are designed to be shot this way, with sloping tips to accommodate this shooting style.
Cody Mould I’ve got a build going on at the moment that will be up for sale when it’s done. It’s my Evo design, which is the upgraded version of this. I’ve no plans to put an optic on it at the moment though.
Iv seen the evo lovily design iv never had it in my hands but the grip looks excellent and being stainless steel should have that little extra weight to hold BOMB PROOF I'D THINK
I've been shooting for a good 3 weeks and I thin what's been said here is spot on. The first sling I got was one of those with green and red fiber optics. They're good when you're training yourself as a beginner just so you'll have some kind of reference. Unfortunately, mine broke off within 2 days because the frame was made of resin. So I was forced to train myself without the optics it came with. And through all those accumulated hours of shooting, and in-between re loading mudballs and brain processing, I 've learned so far. The fundamentals of the stance, body angling, the anchor point, minimizing the head tilt just enough to see the bands in parallel, breathing and making micro adjustments. It came down to one single point reference where the 2 bands aligned together pointing to that target. I think it's better to learn them correctly the first weeks before the motions get hardwired instead of having to unlearn them later on.
You’ve definitely been putting the practice in the right way! It’s not just about standing and randomly firing balls, hoping to get better. It’s paying attention to every small detail with each shot. Practicing perfect practice. Fair play 👍
Just started in this world. I've watched a few tutorials, and followed the advice to buy a basic, not too expensive catapult. The one I've purchased has all the scope sights in the package. I decided almost immediately that I was not going to bother with them. Having watched your tutorial, and many others, I'm glad I just went out into the back garden and practised with the basic setup.
I was able to hit a target from around 10m distance. Okay, it was 20cm by 40cm, and I don't know exactly where I hit it, as I was using clay balls. Nevertheless, I was as pleased as punch to have managed that on the first shot. Thank you so much to you, and the many others that have shared the experience and knowledge they have gained over the years.
It’s a pleasure mate! Glad it helped. Thank you 👍🏻
If you've just started in this world, you're a baby! Yay for babies!
Thanks for sharing. I'm a newbie to catapult shooting so your advice is very much appreciated.
Very, very, very informative. Center of the eye down the band to the target. Practice makes perfect. 👌🏾👍🏾
This guy is spot on with his content don’t know why he hasn’t got a lot more followers 👌🏻
Ste Warby thank you Ste 👍
I'm using a single green optic, butterfly pull, I also shoot with a slightly canted angle to the frame. My frames are all black and can easily pick up the contrasting green dot in my peripheral vision as I keep both eyes open.
I have a cheep Chinese OTT with optics and was always woundering why it pulled to the left a bit, now i know. Thank you. 👍
Right on my man 👍 I just got my 1st band slingshot with 2 bad ass looking "optics" sights with the fiber optic elevation indicators and a bubble level and I find it distracting to be honest 🤷 But I think after you have your basic understanding about minding ammo position in the pouch with your finding your anchor points, keep it all squared up and the same ol
routine as the rest of the deadly dark arts CONSISTENCY and REPETITION as we all learn as kids, practice makes perfect with everything right down the line 😉 I made my 1st slingshot back when bart simpson was a formidable marksman. Been shooting slingshots along with many other types of ranged weapons and I find slingshot/catapulting very similar to archery in many of the basic fundamentals and schools of thought where for me the mental aspect is gotta be 85-90% of putting your ammo EXACTLY where u want it and when you get in the groove you almost can't miss. I wish I had how many shots I've taken with the deadly slingshot 🤔 if you don't mind reading a bit more I can share a few of my all time greatest slingshot hits 🎯 if your interested? But I must warn you RIGHT NOW! I don't care if your dad runs peta or you believe in things you can't understand if u do too damn bad. I'm not proud of some of my actions but I have a good reason for the things I do.. I'm not a monster 😊 Way back many MANY moons i was probably 7. And there was a bunch a kids in my neighborhood, kids used to spend most of there time outside where I come from and I was outside too, just like everyone else and I'm in my backyard practicing my slingshot skills knowing 100yrs later I'll still be goofing around with my silly slingshots right 🤭 well this kid named... We're gunna call him Michael G. or 🤔 M gaffareeli. 🤔 or some shit? Well he wasn't minding his business at all. Riding his bike up n down the street messing around with anyone he could torment.. well my backyard where I was (being good 👍 minding my business 😊) to the center line of the street was I'd say 120ft or so, nice sized lots, perfect neighborhood well until Micheal G hits the streets with bad intentions well he barks out while lurking by BET YOU CANT HIT ME! and in my mind I'm sure he announced some insensitive blasphemy, so I figured I'd call his goddamn bluff right? Now fellas.. where all gentleman here and we're all adults now Id hope right.. well c'mon guys I was like 8 yrs old. We all did weird shit sometimes right? Plus I figured the street is under attack by this lone terrorist M mcgaffatello.. So I chose a proper stone since there happened to literally be a few choice rocks at my feet and not exactly pebbles i liked stones I could get a good hold of thru the pouch, I readily prepared my stance-carefully placed my ammo/healthy chunk of solid earth this hunker of a tiny boulder of a rock and here is comes riding right in my path of launch... I had him figured for where he would be as far as his height, speed, the over distance since my window of opportunity is slim 🧐due to only having a sec or 2 I'd have eyes on this MOVING target named Mikey G 😮 Well he was right in the middle of SINGING LOUDLY 📢 BBBEEETTT YYYOOUUU CCCAA I got myself lined up ok for jumping into position and that little ecu between our ears with flawless efficiency does its thing and that perfect shot when all the math and physics works I raised up drew and released with the intuitive style id adopt and come to hone and trust decades later and 😠 release------ 💥 sounded like hitting a thick hollow tree 🤯AAAAAHHHHHHHHHH!!! 😭. 😮OOOHHH SHHHHHIIIIII I beamed him right in the dome 😮.. Now u ever do something that took action in doing like it was us that thinks about it and then we do it AND RIGHT AWAY u realize the gravity of your actions..way before before I saw the rock fly as soon as I released it just felt like it couldn't miss and GODDAMNIT it was dead nuts zeroed for the kill shot 😮 he went down of his bike and he was boogying since he was asking for this tragic perfect shot to be part of his life and he got what he asked for.. I bet me n him both learned lessons that day.. He took it like a champ and took it the best a human could with getting the skull shattered like a cheap pinyata. He legit got shot in head with a beefy rock while peddling his ass off basically demanding this happen to him like a dummy. He got up and forgot he was riding a bike and ran home jumping around and now shouting a new kinda song to saraned the whole goddamn neighborhood with now remember I'm like 7 maybe 8 and I was a rookie in the arts. People forget sometimes that a projectile covering ground fast enough is no different from a cannon ball or a slow bullet and I can guarantee you he never tried to challenge the affectivness of a dumb kid with his cheapo homemade slingshot... Now I gotta it down.. I have many more TRUE incredible shots thru-out the years and also being lucky and blessed enough to have the correct skillet to have the humble slingshot save my life and sadly be forced to "educate" a mad poisonous dangerous abomination of a beast in a battle to the death for the safety of the community and for the protection and overall well being of goddamn school children !!! after my horrendous action I'm sure I was properly reprimanded for what I have done to poor Mac g and probably apologized... I don't really remember him being around as much after that but I'm sure by now hes a positive member of society and lives a real nice productive life, and nothing bad ever happened to him again.. 👏. I didn't think I'd actually pull a magic one in a million shot like that.. its 90 percent Jedi mind power and 10 percent constantly practicing FOREVER😊
Wow that's a nice frame love the brass
A great video well put across wayne. Thanks for your time.....
leonard whelehan no problem! Thank you Leonard 👍
Fantastic advice has normal Wayne, great video ...
mollski 1969 cheers mate 👍👍
@@CattyShackHunter you going to the Solihull shoot next Sunday
mollski 1969 no mate, I don’t shoot the comps.
That’s a great clear, detailed explanation.....thanks man....
Great video mate , I agree I like one optic on the top of my frame
Jordan Harry thank you mate 👍
Thanks mate! And absolutely gorgeous pup you got
Cant even begin to say how happy i am you made this vid its cleared so many things up for me your a fucking LEGEND. i love some of the basic training vids on youtube but there,s levels to this shit and you just took me to a new level
Your dog is adorable helpful information mate
Cheers Wes 👍
The beautiful dog totally distracted me, in a good way.
usernamemykel 😂👍
Catty Shack Hunter I agree! I stopped looking and listening to you (sorry) and focused on your lovely spaniel! I will watch again hopefully without doggy distractions🙂
Ain't got a optic frame ! I worked it out same as u say and the same for ttf! 1optic as your dimp I'll get one ordered this week ,I want to try your green hunting series just a light version I'd say that's gonna be my season setup.tics all the boxs 95mm to deeper cup 👌ideal ,I shoot a HPH I think is the name used alot in season ! The 5mm will he'll me alot,mail ye soon mate I like them wood compost versions too😁there a while away though.👍
Thanks for the insight! I’m new to catapult, but have experience in firearms. In iron sight shooting, it’s about focusing on the front sight. So, I’m learning that in catapult shooting, you focus on the target instead? Can you do a video on proper sighting/sight picture on the catapult in depth? Cant find it anywhere in the web. Thanks!!!
fantastic tuition 👍😁 learned a lot
Hello Friend. Excellent video. Thank you. 👍
Josef Kopka Hi Josef. Thank you very much 👍
I have my beautiful natural fork slingshot...I shoot without optic.... great video man... keep going 👍👍
Thanks man 👍
You are a really skilled and confident presenter. You explain things with perfect concise precision. Were you in the army or do something similar for work?
Thank you. Nope, I was actually in the building trade for 26 / 27 years, straight out of school at 15.
Good video brother 👍. Good info
eric ward cheers Eric 👍
Some really good advise there, it's good to learn from others, always.
Jason Morgan thank you Jason 👍
@@CattyShackHunter I "accidentally" ordered the Evo today, I look forward to shooting it. Looks like the thoughtful design is a winner for the field.
Jason Morgan haha! I did see mate. It’s all packed and ready to go at 7am 👍 Hope you like it mate, thank you. It’s getting great reviews all over, so fingers crossed! I’m really pleased with it.
@@CattyShackHunter Arrived just now, immaculate. Pure class. Thanks for the excellent service.
Jason Morgan cheers Jason, glad you like it mate. Crazy how the postage is at the moment. Some people are still waiting from early last week!!
Great informative video, enjoyed it fella, keep up the good work, beautiful where you hunt, where is it fella?
Thank you. I live down South 👍
thanks for sharing how to aim well
My anchor makes me twist my pouch aswell
I can't believe I didn't think of canting my frame.
I can't wait to get home a nd try this later
Excellent. I raised this question recently on another video ,I think one of those GKZ frames with the adjustable optics ?
Because I was struggling to understand how the adjustment would work without throwing your natural line out ? Especially on an OTT frame . I can see the logic in using one on the very tip like you have yours though ,where do you get hold of fibre optic wire ? I might experiment on a old frame with thinner bands and some super glue action.
guzgrant you’ll be able to dial in an adjustable optic to a set range, but yeah you’re right, essentially it’s throwing the ball out of line, so it will only be useful at that distance. No good for hunting. This optic was put on by TBSlingshots, the guy who made the frame for me, so I don’t know where he got it I’m afraid mate.
What would you say to professional compound archers using multiple optics? It's the same principle
I use multiple optics as do others with good success. I agree that you also need to learn your trajectories and distances. Optics when used correctly can be very efficient reference points.
Catapult Carnage for set distances you can learn them, but for a hunting purpose I don’t see their use. There’s never a set range or height, and there’s always an in between. To cater for all distances you’d need so many optics you’d clutter your vision and spend more time looking for the correct one. And then that’s assuming you’ve estimated the distance correctly. In my opinion, far better to use just one for hunting applications.
@@CattyShackHunter you've said there they dont work. They do work, for all distance shooting, hunting or targets whatever, I've used them in all applications. Its perfectly fine not to like them but to say they don't work isn't true. I can see why with you're aiming technique that you wouldn't get on with them because it's not true 90° aiming.
It's instead of guessing hold over you have another reference or two.
Catapult Carnage I hear what you’re saying, but I still don’t agree they’re the best option for hunting situations. There’s no multi optic that’s going to work reliably for hunting situations, there’s just too many variables.
@@CattyShackHunter bow hunters been using them for years I'm not saying they are best some might not like them but they can be useful. I prefer 3 reference points myself. If i have a frame with more I'll knock the rest of bar 3 as i never really shot past 25m
Catapult Carnage I respect your opinion, Chris.
Last bit is same as follow through on shotgun!makes sense.
I drill a hole for a short piece of the red straw from spray lube cans, easy enough to see. I'm a quarter-turn shooter and always think it's my poor eyesight as the cause of mediocre aim, but you have me wanting to try straight pouching for a while.
Gary Chandler it’s all trial and error! Give it a shot, I’d be interested to hear how you get on 👍
@@CattyShackHunter I tried last night in my 33' sunroom range. Using black tape on white can separators I save, I usually do flights of 3-4 balls and then go check the grouping (I'm nearsighted). I was getting fork hits like my early days, and the grouping was terrible if I even hit the paper!
Too many years at 1\2 twist I think.
Gary Chandler sounds like there’s a bit more going on there than just a 1/4 turn difference. Whatever it may be, sounds like a case of stick to what you’re familiar with for now.
Outstanding insight - thanks Wayne
I’ve not bothered with an optic. And if I ever bothered to it would be one used only as an extension of looking down the bands ott.
With regards to the comments relating to archery and using optics it’s totally different, you have the space to accommodate a sight that remains well out of the way of the arrow. The sites on compound bows are personally dialled into the specific distance. The bow sights allow for moving the sight up, down, left, right , forward and backwards....but these are for specific target competition distances and even then you find you have to fine tune your sight depending on varying wind conditions....and arrow types.
If you were using the same bow sight for hunting it would be pointless as you don’t know the distance.
In competitions where set distances are used it would be possible to use optics on a catapult, but for hunting there’s too many split second variables...this is where experience comes in.
I see a catapult/ slingshot like a long bow.......simple, naked and effective only through practice.
You can’t compare the compound bow site to a catapult optic ,compounds bows are so adaptable.....and can hide a lot of a technique faults to some degree.
But different things work for different people....but for me like a longbow I keep it pure and simple.
Great video and lovely dog.
Olafs Carrot superb comment, thank you for taking the time to write it out; my sentiments exactly.
Thank you, and all the best!
Thanks for the help I'm currently holding the ammo and throwing the catapult. Ffs
That is a nice frame.
Could those extra optics be used as a range finder?
Could you do a video on how to find the correct holdover for your target, especially for the Evo 🤔
There’s absolutely no answer for this mate. There’s far too many factors to take into consideration. Anchor point, strength of band, draw length, size of ammo, weather conditions. We’re all different. The only way to learn it is familiarisation with your set-up, stick to one thing and learn it inside out. Repeated practice at varying ranges every time you go out. Just shooting straight targets at 10m you’ll nothing other than how to shoot that target. Shoot up, shoot down, shoot at angles, shoot at varying ranges, it’s the only way to learn.
Brilliant tutorial. 😎👍
What it do nice video as always I have a slingshot that has double lopped tubes that has two on each side I'm trying to get the right tube size for hunting purposes only no target shooting the 2632 are out the that's what came on the slingshot prior to new so I'm trying to decide on 2040-1842-1745-2050-2055-3060 what can you with on getting ready for a good hunting setup and ammo once again nice video
Hi mate still learning what set up would you say is best suited for 9.5 steel for hunting, also where in the UK are you be great to meet up for a shoot and learn hands on from you 👍
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For OTT ....I think just putting a tape or mark some horizontal lines on the inside face of the fork tip should give a much better elevation/distance marker options.... rather than offset optics!?
It still wouldn’t work. The catapult obscures what you’re aiming at when you hold over, unless you shoot both eyes open (I do) That being the case, you still can’t focus on two things at once. The target at distance, and the measurement lines 3 feet away on the catapult. So any aiming device needs to be able to be clear enough to be seen in your peripheral vision. Temperature also changes the performance of bands constantly, so balls strike higher or lower on what can be a daily basis sometimes, especially in winter. They simply don’t work. Everybody’s trajectory is also different, depending on weight of ball, strength of band, length of draw. A single optic is the only way, in my opinion, if you must have one.
@@CattyShackHunter Yes, true....there are just too many variables in hunting ......as even functionally, it would only potentially work if the fork tip are held in a true vertical position...so the bands would become the vertical cross hair.... and then horizontal lines could be seen and act as a kind of... half black out scope =l if that makes sense.
However might be good for fixed or field target work
are clay balls any use for practice with or are they too inconsistent to get a grouping to refarance from
I can get optic spot on problem I have is I can put optic at just at side of target bottom of target top of target.
But I have a problem putting it dead on target itself whether its psychological or not.
Should I set optic bit higher and put it just under target to hit target
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Hi Wayne....great tutorial there pal......as there is no palm swell on the goblet.... is it ok (ie .....won’t affect accuracy) to have the grip pulled back into your hand as you had ( you had to on a/c of the heavy bands)......put another way the ENTIRE catty is not parallel to you or the target....Is that method ok to practice?????
Charles Campbell I shoot with the catapult angled forwards so my wrist is straight, it’s a stronger position to shoot a heavy band with because the pressure is coming directly back through my arm. My catapults are designed to be shot this way, with sloping tips to accommodate this shooting style.
Catty Shack Hunter thanks Wayne ......that’s a perfectly logical answer....I appreciate u taking the time👌🏻
Charles Campbell no problem at all mate! 👍
Catty Shack Hunter thanks once again Wayne.....
So the corner of the top fork is going to be above the target at 30 meters, vise verse closer distances,??
I always shoot hand eye coordination I find it difficult time using the frame and I’m at my best Exie around 30 yards
I want to ask, what size rubber do you usually use for hunting?
Which band nd ammo is used for hunting rabits nd birds???
hello friend, what kind of rubber should be put on bagels mll??
Thankyou
plz new vedios...
Dear Sir! May I ask what type of scope you use and how you attach it to the branch?
Muscle memory and that's a lot of practice
What is the thickness flatband you use!?.. Look hard when pulled
MFIALEED OUTDOOR ACTIVITY *MALAYSIA* this is 1mm band.
what is the thickness of the rubber?
what size is the bullet?
Wayne i ordered some sheshou and its .75 what kind of cut would i need to shoot 9.5 steel 250 fps or over
Rob Ellenberger hi Rob, did you order from us?
@@CattyShackHunter im really sorry but i ordered from dankung im from the usa and i cant order anything thats not in usd currency
Rob Ellenberger No probs, we ship to the US all the time mate.
@@CattyShackHunter oh ok do you know if i order in pounds or euros doea it change over to usd
Rob Ellenberger it should do it all automatically on the website mate. I send all over the world without ever having had a problem with currency.
How did you attach the optic to the frame.
Hi Wayne I know this is an older video, but I was wondering what adhesive you use to fix your optic to the frame?
konig89 hi mate, it was just super glue.
I got a question, why are you talking yards, aren’t you from the UK? Don’t you guys use meter based measuring?
WHY is shooting TTF (Through The Forks) appear not as popular?
No real advantage. OTT seems to be the best.
Band slap.
This lad looks British Army..💪🇬🇧
Cheers McVicar, but no, just a regular civvie. Well, maybe not regular, but definitely just a civvie 👍
Where is The aiming point you use ???
Wayne, what do you use as a optic ?.
Richard Wilkinson I don’t use one at the moment, I’m just using the band. But the one on that frame is a piece of 1.5mm green fibre optic strand.
where do you live????????
Vreau să cumpăr EVO...STEEL...MARE...❤ CÎT COSTĂ. ?? 😊 ROMÎNIA.
Hi friend one question where life???
Outer space
It is true
Could you tell me please where are you get your 11 mil steel from and how much
What catapult is that please
Cody Mould its my design mate, called a Goblet. This is a custom I had made.
Love the shape and the single optic you doing any more
Cody Mould I’ve got a build going on at the moment that will be up for sale when it’s done. It’s my Evo design, which is the upgraded version of this. I’ve no plans to put an optic on it at the moment though.
Iv seen the evo lovily design iv never had it in my hands but the grip looks excellent and being stainless steel should have that little extra weight to hold BOMB PROOF I'D THINK
So what your trying to say is optics are shit just practice mate😊
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Sir plz tell me wht is the thickness of your rubber band ??