Maybe i missed it, but not putting acoustic glass in a $60k vehicle when they put it in the Tacoma Off-road that cost less is a big miss. That should be a standard feature. I really like the new LC but Toyota is making it difficult to pull the trigger on it with some of their odd decisions.
Tim, as a prospective land cruiser buyer I really like the cloth seats and wish they were an option on the land cruiser trim. I've never seen a vehicle with ventilated cloth seats but I wish it could be done because the points you made are exactly why I like cloth so much more than the softex or the leather.
Cloth seats for the win!! (Central Florida resident talking!) I'm with you the main thing this LC 1958 is missing is the 360 camera system, even as an option.
100% agree with cloth seat's. I ordered my Silverado in higher trim with cloth seats. Hate the leather in winter and summer it's too hot. The new 4Runner is going to be just like this just a bit cheaper.
FJ asked for premium fuel as well but I actually spoke to Toyota years ago because we are very rural and it wasn't always easy to get. They told me not to worry about it and after 17 years of driving it hasn't been an issue. The vehicle can figure it out.
I thought you were going to do a Thelma & Louise over the edge. Premium fuel to get the high horsepower due to a high compression (my guess). Looks pretty nice but if I were going to buy a LC it would be the higher trim level. Nice review and nice ranch. 👍
On the hitch, should have come with a 1/2 diaper cover. You don’t need to remove anything but the bigger cover and replace with 1/2 cover. I just roll around with 1/2 cover now. No issue hooking camper up.
Pay no attention to the man behind the curtain. Everything is fine. What are all those engines sitting out of those trucks for? We're just..... testing them. Yes...... Testing.
@islandhopper100 How? Of the three new Land Cruiser editions (1958, Land Cruiser, First edition) the 1958 is the most focused of the three. I could understand your point with the mid trim, as it comes w/ optional 20in wheels.
@islandhopper100 1958 is a blank canvas for the off-road enthusiast. It's basic. Cloth/manual seats, no large infotainment screens, just three plain color options.. but it still has most (not all) of everything you need for serious 4WD- 9.5" rear axle on coils w/ rear locker, full time 4WD drive w/ center locking diff & low range, cast iron front diff (a lot of manufactures have gone to aluminum), and a new robust ladder frame. Yes, it needs front sway bar disconnect as standard, but that's all its missing (manual trans would be nice, but now we are dreaming). I think the mid trim has too much of what you don't need. Leather seats, large infotainment screens, and optional 20in wheels (I didn't see 20" wheels as an option on base 1958 trim, but you could probably special order them through your dealer). www.toyota.com/configurator/build/step/color/year/2024/series/landcruiser/model/6165/exteriorcolor/04V8/interiorcolor/FB20/packages/FE/?bap_guid=9c4bacaf-23fa-4de1-b198-331b2b03f324
Comments in here prove that people will complain about anything. Toyota has finally given consumers a base trim LC…something not available since the 90’s & people still b$tch. Yeah it really sucks to have options. No one comes close to the suv/cuv choices that Toyota/Lexus offers l, but UA-camrs will complain that the base infotainment screen isn’t as wide as the more premium offerings. 😂
I love the looks of these new Land Cruisers, starting to see a lot of them around. They look great up close. I would still sit tight for a couple of years to see what bugs shake be out…
I really want to like these. I’ve test drove the 1958 and the regular Land Cruiser. They just feel cheap I guess? My 4runner interior feels way more quality.
Thank you for the video. I've been watching videos on the LC for about a month. The 1958 Edition is about what I want to pay, but it doesn't come with a premium sound system and I need a good sounding stereo. Does the 1958 edition come with auto climate control? I had a couple Lexus cars that had that and it was great, I don't like messing with the temp control, I'd rather set it and forget about it. After watching this and other videos, I might just wait until the model year.
Hey Tim, Toyota seems to be following in GM’s footsteps! They don’t seem to be listening to their customers feedback ( I know this is a new model ) but wouldn’t it be nice to have a manufacturer ask loyal customers for what they would like to see in either a new model year vehicle or a new vehicle introduction.? I haven’t really heard anyone mention over the hood view with this new Landcruiser, is it better than the last generation of FJ, worse or about the same? I was going to buy the last gen of FJ until I drove it and couldn’t see squat over the hood! I’m not that tall but, I could see much better over the hood of a JK! I always loved Toyota’s ergonomics and quality and was the main reason for buying 4 of them plus 1 Lexus. Toyota has some great safety features but, for some strange reason their software is not very user friendly or intuitive. The towing system/hitch cover is a total mess! Is there a law against showing your naked receiver hitch that I’m not aware of? As always stay safe and healthy.
The cloth seats in that 250 look like a real downgrade from the 150 series, which has much better seats. When I bought my 150 series LC 2 years ago, I bought the lowest trim model and bought an upgraded screen, navigation and music system combination. It has a 360o camera, front camera, rear camera, terrain camera so you can see underneath the front of the car, gyroscope, etc. Was well worth the extra money and still way cheaper than going up to the top trim to get that. If you order it when you bought it, you could have had that all installed, or do they not offer that as an option there. My 150 series which is diesel gets the same mpg as that hybrid, but the fuel is much cheaper. So over all much cheaper to run than the that petrol 250. Here the 250 comes with the same 2.8 diesel as is in my current 150 series. I upgraded the seats with custom made leather covers that look like factory fitted seats. I think your made the right choice to by the lower trim and then you can upgrade it as you wish. As for the mode control. Total waste, you don't need it. Mine doesn't have it. I have been through 50cm deep snow been off road through muddy rough tracks and haven't touched anything. Not yet needed to use the 4L or diff lock. The various terrain modes is nothing more than a marketing gimmick. With the 150 series as soon as you go to 4L it automatically disabled stability control,, traction control, collision avoidance sensors and other things not needed for off roading. You may find once you select 4L it will disable those functions. The new 250 is a nice rig, looks very nice, but having a 150 series that I bought new 2 years ago, I absolutely can not find any reason to want to buy the 250 series. But for someone who does not own a 4x4 or doesn't own an LC then the 250 would surely be a good choice.
I want to like this but I just can’t. I liked the prior Land Cruisers where for years there was no “trim” level they were all just Land Cruiser. I could tolerate turbo or hybrid but not both. Hope I am wrong
The 1958 trim is a pos. Lack of MTM is a huge miss.. as an off road enthusiast, the inability to even purchase MTM option should relegate the 1958 to mall crawler status.
It doesn’t matter how much horsepower or torque it can produce if it has to do it at the expense of its longevity. Yes it can produce more power but it will burn itself out faster.
So, you don't like using premium gas, the towing isn't set up the way you want, and you other 3 complaints are fixed with money (which is common the virtually all cars). Huh. If that's the worst ...
I ordered the base trim Prado 2.8 diesel here in Japan. The limitations they impose on base level models are absurd. I thinks it's all about up selling, also the designers and management are very superficial, so base model can only get tiny screen, no roof racks, one headlight style, no sunroof, no opening rear glass black and plain white colors only, really. Toyota can't figure out how to offer high volume vehicles in other colors. It's a statement that you couldn't afford the extra 9000 usd for the next trim up which must come with sun roof and leather seats, which I don't want. I get they are trying to mimick tesla manufacturing simplicity, and iPhone upselling techniques, but it's Toyota.
How embarrassing would it be to show your friends how awesome your new Land Cruiser looks, and then have to tell them it has a lawnmower sounding engine in it (horsepower, torque and sound is a package deal on certain vehicles. Mercedes already found this out the hard way. Toyota might be the next one to find out.)
@@M-.-Jones interesting to me people are making comments on the engine noise. I guess I should have paid more attention to the engine sound. Most new vehicles have blah sounding engines.
@@Wxman9123 That is what I was thinking. How insecure does someone have to be to worry about what their friends think of their car? Yeesh. Lot of "truck guys" with very thin skins.
The 100 series was the last vehicle I would consider a Land Cruiser that was sold in the US. All the fanboys can gush over a turbo/hybrid/supreme fuel mall crawler but this vehicle would not be a good candidate to drive in locations where the Land Cruiser reputation was earned.
@@GregKittle it depends on what your criteria is for the best Land Cruiser. The 100 is 4 inches shorter and 1 inch narrower than the 200. The 80 series is 8 inches shorter and 2 inches narrower. As Americans got bigger so did the American LC. The 100 isn’t the best by far but the last functional LC in America. The 70 series is by far the best LC.
@@blackwatch7151 Too many factual inaccuracies in your statement. First, you refer to the Land Cruiser as "the American LC." Don't you realize that the Land Cruiser is a global platform? The 80, 100, and 200 series were all global vehicles. And as for the 100 being the last functional Land Cruiser in America? Nope!!! You completely ignored my comment. The 200 series is on a stronger platform (basically improved from the 100). It has beefed up frame sections, a stronger rear end, beefier drive shafts, and a much more beefy front end. And a more stout engine for that size of a vehicle. So wait, you're saying the 100 series is the last functional Land Cruiser in America? Is that because its a whopping 1 inch narrower? Have you just ignored all the people who've built the 200 series and actually use them, worldwide? I'm just curious where you're getting this idea from, because it really doesn't make sense to me.
@@GregKittle What factual inaccuracies? And what comment did I ignore? The blanket statement you made where you said the 200 is better than the 100 in every way? That's your opinion based on what you believe is the criteria for a better Land cruiser. The LC200 was introduced as a luxury SUV targeting rich people in the ME and USA primarily. Same as the 300. I haven't seen one 200 series in Central America but I have seen an endless amount of old 4Rs and 40/70 series LCs. It's as popular in Africa, Central/South America and Australia as a Dodge Ram. There's a reason why the Hilux is sold in these markets and not full size PUs. My statements referred to the ever growing size of the LC as Toyota tried to sell a luxury land Cruiser version for the first time. The 70 series is about 8 inches narrower than aa 200 series and in between these the 80/100/200/LX600 have emerged to sell in the ever increasing luxury market as it evolved over the past 30 years. The 200 was a global vehicle but it's evolution is rooted in American "super size me"/"large Marge" culture. The 200 and now 300 have become popular with rich oil Sheiks and Eastern European Oligarch types. The Prado has tried to bridge this world and sell a bit of luxury to the "3rd world" Land Cruisers did not build their reputation on driving people to the mall as the recent North American Land Cruisers have been intended for. They earned them in the bush in Australia, Africa and Central/South America, built to go places other vehicles can't and if they need maintenance or repairs they can be worked on without a computer and a simple socket set and screw driver. The hysteria amongst the American Toyota fanboys over the LC250 is pathetic. It's a nice looking vehicle but it's not what a Land Cruiser was designed to be. There's a reason they still sell the 70 series in most of the world and we don't get it in NA. Toyota panders to the mall crawling posers who want to drive around Florida in lifted trucks on the same roads Ferraris drive. Gotta look cool going to the outlets. I'm sure all of this is completely wrong in your world and the Land Cruiser's reputation was built on bloated land yachts fighting for parking spots at Star Bucks or the mall.
@@blackwatch7151 I poked your nerves, sorry about that. I gave a list of reasons why the 200 series was improved over the 100 series, and you called it "my opinion." You also said that the 200 series was the American version, which is just plain factually incorrect. In America we only got the luxury version, but in Australia, Africa, Asia, and South America they also got the base model. You could even get it with the diesel in some markets. So you're just plain not correct with a lot of your reasoning. Could you please do some basic research before replying to me again.
One of your top 5 is cloth seats . ..and that cheap@ss pop up window ... lmao... 60k plus ... Ummm naaa I think most of us will pass on this one for the 4 runner ... It does look nice tho ...
Test drove the 2024 Land Cruiser. I really did not care for the engine or drive characteristics of the vehicle at all. Much too much engine noise inside the cabin, and not a smooth drive at all, no where near as nice a ride as the previous, much larger 8 cylinder Land Cruiser.
It looks superficial like the Hyundai Santa Fe but this is a more expensive vehicle Initially I kind of liked it but now it is starting to just look cheap Another Toyota dud😅 A company the size of Toyota couldn’t produce a straight six mild hybrid like Mazda? It makes no sense Cloth seats in a 4X4 no just no That is just cheap for the sake of being cheap Had the highlander with that flip glass it’s useful but cheap again that wiper sucks That tow receiver cover business no just no that is a disgrace it would be annoying on a toy from Walmart 😅
@@joeblack1052 people say whatever they want to when they're backed into a corner, but any person with any ounce of sanity will find it hard to believe that you've ever owned a Toyota. Don't like that then don't say it.
Toyota is the absolute worse when it comes to interior storage on their vehicles. No sun glass holder no cubbies to put small things in, I mean the much smaller Honda civic has much better storage options than this . Toyota has been living off their reputation for a long time and now with all the engine issues they need to quit being lazy and do better. 60k for this is a joke. Also we get the specs on the 4banger mostly out does the old V8. However does it have the reliability of the V8?? Or the fact the 4banger requires premium gas at a dollar more a gallon are reasons people aren’t sold on the 4banger
@@Pickuptrucktalkgood review, the first editions seems to fix most of the issues you had, from the drive modes to the bigger screen to the 360 cameras, but you got to pay to play! Toyotas new motto, honestly I ahevthe FE, and besides the small tank nit much I don’t like about it, granted I have a dually to tow, so besides a tiny 3000lb trailer is all I need it for, but def wouldn’t want to tow up to max though, prob get 12mpg at best
Here is the towing video: ua-cam.com/video/9edl1_Q_Rc0/v-deo.html
I agree, I love cloth seats too. Wish they were a more common option.
Maybe i missed it, but not putting acoustic glass in a $60k vehicle when they put it in the Tacoma Off-road that cost less is a big miss. That should be a standard feature. I really like the new LC but Toyota is making it difficult to pull the trigger on it with some of their odd decisions.
Tim, as a prospective land cruiser buyer I really like the cloth seats and wish they were an option on the land cruiser trim. I've never seen a vehicle with ventilated cloth seats but I wish it could be done because the points you made are exactly why I like cloth so much more than the softex or the leather.
I own a 1958. Its silky smooth...no jerkiness
Cloth seats for the win!! (Central Florida resident talking!) I'm with you the main thing this LC 1958 is missing is the 360 camera system, even as an option.
At 60k that infotainment screen is an abomination. Come on Toyota
100% agree with cloth seat's. I ordered my Silverado in higher trim with cloth seats. Hate the leather in winter and summer it's too hot. The new 4Runner is going to be just like this just a bit cheaper.
FJ asked for premium fuel as well but I actually spoke to Toyota years ago because we are very rural and it wasn't always easy to get. They told me not to worry about it and after 17 years of driving it hasn't been an issue. The vehicle can figure it out.
FJ past 2010 had been upgraded to accept 87 grade gas.
If it's a 1958 edition, shouldn't the body look more like the Series 1 model?
I thought you were going to do a Thelma & Louise over the edge. Premium fuel to get the high horsepower due to a high compression (my guess). Looks pretty nice but if I were going to buy a LC it would be the higher trim level. Nice review and nice ranch. 👍
@@NMTRUCKER 😂 the drone makes the terrain look pretty flat. Its not. And I’m not that crazy. 😂
It needs a tail gate to sit on
On the hitch, should have come with a 1/2 diaper cover. You don’t need to remove anything but the bigger cover and replace with 1/2 cover. I just roll around with 1/2 cover now. No issue hooking camper up.
Those same Toyo engineers told you how great the new Tundra V-6 is too 😂
😂😂😂😂
Pay no attention to the man behind the curtain. Everything is fine. What are all those engines sitting out of those trucks for? We're just..... testing them. Yes...... Testing.
Great video Tim. Are any of your other don't likes fixed in the higher trim level.
I use the front camera on my 4Runner a lot.
1958 edition should have sway bar disconnect as an option (or standard) too. Its a Land Cruiser!
@islandhopper100 How? Of the three new Land Cruiser editions (1958, Land Cruiser, First edition) the 1958 is the most focused of the three. I could understand your point with the mid trim, as it comes w/ optional 20in wheels.
@islandhopper100 1958 is a blank canvas for the off-road enthusiast. It's basic. Cloth/manual seats, no large infotainment screens, just three plain color options.. but it still has most (not all) of everything you need for serious 4WD- 9.5" rear axle on coils w/ rear locker, full time 4WD drive w/ center locking diff & low range, cast iron front diff (a lot of manufactures have gone to aluminum), and a new robust ladder frame. Yes, it needs front sway bar disconnect as standard, but that's all its missing (manual trans would be nice, but now we are dreaming). I think the mid trim has too much of what you don't need. Leather seats, large infotainment screens, and optional 20in wheels (I didn't see 20" wheels as an option on base 1958 trim, but you could probably special order them through your dealer).
www.toyota.com/configurator/build/step/color/year/2024/series/landcruiser/model/6165/exteriorcolor/04V8/interiorcolor/FB20/packages/FE/?bap_guid=9c4bacaf-23fa-4de1-b198-331b2b03f324
My 1966 FJ-40 doesn’t have that , nobody complained :-)
@@MichaelKuczynski-u7o Valid point. Did that have a solid front axle? That would even better 👍😊
@@brandonedwards4398 it does
Comments in here prove that people will complain about anything. Toyota has finally given consumers a base trim LC…something not available since the 90’s & people still b$tch. Yeah it really sucks to have options.
No one comes close to the suv/cuv choices that Toyota/Lexus offers l, but UA-camrs will complain that the base infotainment screen isn’t as wide as the more premium offerings. 😂
Those damn UA-camrs…
I love the looks of these new Land Cruisers, starting to see a lot of them around. They look great up close. I would still sit tight for a couple of years to see what bugs shake be out…
Man, today I sat in a Tacoma and I HATED how big the screen was. It's almost ostentatious. If I wanted to buy a TV screen I'd go to Best Buy.
Hey does the hybrid system put less stress on the motor? Great video like always
@@michaelptm2269 just works in conjunction and the engine doesn’t need to work as hard.
Awesome location. Nice vehicle Cloth seats are the best
Guess it’s not for everyone. Love the new LC, they look great in person. Luckily I don’t tow much.
I really want to like these. I’ve test drove the 1958 and the regular Land Cruiser. They just feel cheap I guess? My 4runner interior feels way more quality.
Thank you for the video. I've been watching videos on the LC for about a month. The 1958 Edition is about what I want to pay, but it doesn't come with a premium sound system and I need a good sounding stereo. Does the 1958 edition come with auto climate control? I had a couple Lexus cars that had that and it was great, I don't like messing with the temp control, I'd rather set it and forget about it. After watching this and other videos, I might just wait until the model year.
Base model ❤🎉
Hey Tim,
Toyota seems to be following in GM’s footsteps! They don’t seem to be listening to their customers feedback ( I know this is a new model ) but wouldn’t it be nice to have a manufacturer ask loyal customers for what they would like to see in either a new model year vehicle or a new vehicle introduction.?
I haven’t really heard anyone mention over the hood view with this new Landcruiser, is it better than the last generation of FJ, worse or about the same?
I was going to buy the last gen of FJ until I drove it and couldn’t see squat over the hood!
I’m not that tall but, I could see much better over the hood of a JK!
I always loved Toyota’s ergonomics and quality and was the main reason for buying 4 of them plus 1 Lexus.
Toyota has some great safety features but, for some strange reason their software is not very user friendly or intuitive.
The towing system/hitch cover is a total mess! Is there a law against showing your naked receiver hitch that I’m not aware of?
As always stay safe and healthy.
The cloth seats in that 250 look like a real downgrade from the 150 series, which has much better seats. When I bought my 150 series LC 2 years ago, I bought the lowest trim model and bought an upgraded screen, navigation and music system combination. It has a 360o camera, front camera, rear camera, terrain camera so you can see underneath the front of the car, gyroscope, etc. Was well worth the extra money and still way cheaper than going up to the top trim to get that. If you order it when you bought it, you could have had that all installed, or do they not offer that as an option there. My 150 series which is diesel gets the same mpg as that hybrid, but the fuel is much cheaper. So over all much cheaper to run than the that petrol 250. Here the 250 comes with the same 2.8 diesel as is in my current 150 series. I upgraded the seats with custom made leather covers that look like factory fitted seats. I think your made the right choice to by the lower trim and then you can upgrade it as you wish. As for the mode control. Total waste, you don't need it. Mine doesn't have it. I have been through 50cm deep snow been off road through muddy rough tracks and haven't touched anything. Not yet needed to use the 4L or diff lock. The various terrain modes is nothing more than a marketing gimmick. With the 150 series as soon as you go to 4L it automatically disabled stability control,, traction control, collision avoidance sensors and other things not needed for off roading. You may find once you select 4L it will disable those functions.
The new 250 is a nice rig, looks very nice, but having a 150 series that I bought new 2 years ago, I absolutely can not find any reason to want to buy the 250 series. But for someone who does not own a 4x4 or doesn't own an LC then the 250 would surely be a good choice.
I want to like this but I just can’t. I liked the prior Land Cruisers where for years there was no “trim” level they were all just Land Cruiser. I could tolerate turbo or hybrid but not both. Hope I am wrong
You didn’t “like” my video. C’mon man. Give me a thumbs up!
check our Trail Recons LC Review.. he has some interesting comments too... but not the 1958 trim...
The 1958 trim is a pos. Lack of MTM is a huge miss.. as an off road enthusiast, the inability to even purchase MTM option should relegate the 1958 to mall crawler status.
Trippen
4 runner is nicer.
@islandhopper100 EPA for the win, reliability no longer allowed.
I might be crazy but the Honda Passport is the better buy.
Not at all the same vehicle
You crazy!
😂😂😂😂
This is another great vehicle for wealthy retirees who like to hangout at car dealers waiting for their monthly repairs to be completed.
😂 Like owning a Harley😂
Another GM fanboy just entered the chat 😂
@islandhopper100 why would you think you'll see me at a dealer?
premium fuel! no thank!
like its more utilitarian, LC200 was a 3 row luxury family school bus
Totally agree, towing setup is stupid !
It requires premium gas, currently an extra $1 per gallon ripoff, no thanks not interested in getting hosed every week at the pump.
It doesn’t matter how much horsepower or torque it can produce if it has to do it at the expense of its longevity. Yes it can produce more power but it will burn itself out faster.
Its a landsnoozer
So, you don't like using premium gas, the towing isn't set up the way you want, and you other 3 complaints are fixed with money (which is common the virtually all cars). Huh. If that's the worst
...
The factory wheels look terrible
Looks like a Bronco mated with a highlander. Also no tow hooks... again
I ordered the base trim Prado 2.8 diesel here in Japan. The limitations they impose on base level models are absurd. I thinks it's all about up selling, also the designers and management are very superficial, so base model can only get tiny screen, no roof racks, one headlight style, no sunroof, no opening rear glass black and plain white colors only, really. Toyota can't figure out how to offer high volume vehicles in other colors. It's a statement that you couldn't afford the extra 9000 usd for the next trim up which must come with sun roof and leather seats, which I don't want. I get they are trying to mimick tesla manufacturing simplicity, and iPhone upselling techniques, but it's Toyota.
How embarrassing would it be to show your friends how awesome your new Land Cruiser looks, and then have to tell them it has a lawnmower sounding engine in it (horsepower, torque and sound is a package deal on certain vehicles. Mercedes already found this out the hard way. Toyota might be the next one to find out.)
@@M-.-Jones interesting to me people are making comments on the engine noise. I guess I should have paid more attention to the engine sound. Most new vehicles have blah sounding engines.
Imagine being so insecure you're worried about how your friends think your vehicle sounds.
@@Wxman9123 That is what I was thinking. How insecure does someone have to be to worry about what their friends think of their car? Yeesh. Lot of "truck guys" with very thin skins.
@@Wxman9123 Savage
The 100 series was the last vehicle I would consider a Land Cruiser that was sold in the US. All the fanboys can gush over a turbo/hybrid/supreme fuel mall crawler but this vehicle would not be a good candidate to drive in locations where the Land Cruiser reputation was earned.
100 series? Seriously? The 200 is literally better than the 100 in every aspect.
@@GregKittle it depends on what your criteria is for the best Land Cruiser. The 100 is 4 inches shorter and 1 inch narrower than the 200. The 80 series is 8 inches shorter and 2 inches narrower. As Americans got bigger so did the American LC. The 100 isn’t the best by far but the last functional LC in America.
The 70 series is by far the best LC.
@@blackwatch7151 Too many factual inaccuracies in your statement. First, you refer to the Land Cruiser as "the American LC." Don't you realize that the Land Cruiser is a global platform? The 80, 100, and 200 series were all global vehicles. And as for the 100 being the last functional Land Cruiser in America? Nope!!! You completely ignored my comment.
The 200 series is on a stronger platform (basically improved from the 100). It has beefed up frame sections, a stronger rear end, beefier drive shafts, and a much more beefy front end. And a more stout engine for that size of a vehicle.
So wait, you're saying the 100 series is the last functional Land Cruiser in America? Is that because its a whopping 1 inch narrower? Have you just ignored all the people who've built the 200 series and actually use them, worldwide? I'm just curious where you're getting this idea from, because it really doesn't make sense to me.
@@GregKittle What factual inaccuracies? And what comment did I ignore? The blanket statement you made where you said the 200 is better than the 100 in every way? That's your opinion based on what you believe is the criteria for a better Land cruiser.
The LC200 was introduced as a luxury SUV targeting rich people in the ME and USA primarily. Same as the 300. I haven't seen one 200 series in Central America but I have seen an endless amount of old 4Rs and 40/70 series LCs. It's as popular in Africa, Central/South America and Australia as a Dodge Ram. There's a reason why the Hilux is sold in these markets and not full size PUs.
My statements referred to the ever growing size of the LC as Toyota tried to sell a luxury land Cruiser version for the first time. The 70 series is about 8 inches narrower than aa 200 series and in between these the 80/100/200/LX600 have emerged to sell in the ever increasing luxury market as it evolved over the past 30 years. The 200 was a global vehicle but it's evolution is rooted in American "super size me"/"large Marge" culture. The 200 and now 300 have become popular with rich oil Sheiks and Eastern European Oligarch types. The Prado has tried to bridge this world and sell a bit of luxury to the "3rd world"
Land Cruisers did not build their reputation on driving people to the mall as the recent North American Land Cruisers have been intended for. They earned them in the bush in Australia, Africa and Central/South America, built to go places other vehicles can't and if they need maintenance or repairs they can be worked on without a computer and a simple socket set and screw driver. The hysteria amongst the American Toyota fanboys over the LC250 is pathetic. It's a nice looking vehicle but it's not what a Land Cruiser was designed to be. There's a reason they still sell the 70 series in most of the world and we don't get it in NA. Toyota panders to the mall crawling posers who want to drive around Florida in lifted trucks on the same roads Ferraris drive. Gotta look cool going to the outlets.
I'm sure all of this is completely wrong in your world and the Land Cruiser's reputation was built on bloated land yachts fighting for parking spots at Star Bucks or the mall.
@@blackwatch7151 I poked your nerves, sorry about that.
I gave a list of reasons why the 200 series was improved over the 100 series, and you called it "my opinion."
You also said that the 200 series was the American version, which is just plain factually incorrect. In America we only got the luxury version, but in Australia, Africa, Asia, and South America they also got the base model. You could even get it with the diesel in some markets. So you're just plain not correct with a lot of your reasoning. Could you please do some basic research before replying to me again.
It has two yow Hooks up front. How do I know? I have a 1958 😂
One of your top 5 is cloth seats . ..and that cheap@ss pop up window ... lmao... 60k plus ... Ummm naaa I think most of us will pass on this one for the 4 runner ... It does look nice tho ...
Toyota has been Ripping customers for years... keep buying them..... fools.
the overweight Toyota engineers don't have a great track record right now. They lost me as a customer and I'm one of many.
Less complex than a v8 with no explanation
The only answer they give is less cylinders means less complexity.
@@PickuptrucktalkThey conveniently ignore the turbo and extra complexity and parts related to it. 😂
@@showmemorefunthings9208 oh I agree. Just sharing what I’m told.
I looked at one for the wife. Pretty cheaply built and doors sound hollow when you shut them . Way overpriced for what you get !
Tim...Gotta be real with your viewers; the vehicle is nowhere worth 60k, just saying 🤔
What vehicle is worth its asking price these days??
I just picked up a 2024 Underground 4runner Off Road Premium for $47k@@Pickuptrucktalk
Just saw someone posted a window sticker to a dodge hornet..it was 50k. Everything is dumb now.
What a bla truck .Interior so ugly for 60 grand. Where is the quality? Toyota has become a bad purchase
If you can't build what you want,fail of sale. Overpriced.
it's Toyota's new soccer mom mall cruiser. not a serious off road truck.
Highly doubt it’s “smoother”. We have a new sequoia and the hybrid is jerky. Especially when coming to a stop.
Overpriced, no other way to put it, simply overpriced
Even considering the outgoing LC, which was barely larger, started at $87K in its final year of sale in the US?
Test drove the 2024 Land Cruiser. I really did not care for the engine or drive characteristics of the vehicle at all. Much too much engine noise inside the cabin, and not a smooth drive at all, no where near as nice a ride as the previous, much larger 8 cylinder Land Cruiser.
It looks superficial like the Hyundai Santa Fe but this is a more expensive vehicle
Initially I kind of liked it but now it is starting to just look cheap
Another Toyota dud😅
A company the size of Toyota couldn’t produce a straight six mild hybrid like Mazda?
It makes no sense
Cloth seats in a 4X4 no just no
That is just cheap for the sake of being cheap
Had the highlander with that flip glass it’s useful but cheap again that wiper sucks
That tow receiver cover business no just no that is a disgrace it would be annoying on a toy from Walmart 😅
Wut?
@@Hp31242 you can’t read son?
@@joeblack1052it's trying to get through all the nonsense that's just nauseating. It's amazing how much hate a fan boy of another brand can cough up.
@@GregKittle I have owned exclusively Toyota for 25 yrs ,so one could argue I am a Toyota fan boy
@@joeblack1052 people say whatever they want to when they're backed into a corner, but any person with any ounce of sanity will find it hard to believe that you've ever owned a Toyota. Don't like that then don't say it.
Toyota is the absolute worse when it comes to interior storage on their vehicles. No sun glass holder no cubbies to put small things in, I mean the much smaller Honda civic has much better storage options than this . Toyota has been living off their reputation for a long time and now with all the engine issues they need to quit being lazy and do better. 60k for this is a joke.
Also we get the specs on the 4banger mostly out does the old V8. However does it have the reliability of the V8?? Or the fact the 4banger requires premium gas at a dollar more a gallon are reasons people aren’t sold on the 4banger
Have you ever heard the First Edition you should do your research before you talk all this negative nonsense?
@@DOWAA5 uh, hello. I made several comments about this specific edition and how there are other options.
@@Pickuptrucktalkgood review, the first editions seems to fix most of the issues you had, from the drive modes to the bigger screen to the 360 cameras, but you got to pay to play! Toyotas new motto, honestly I ahevthe FE, and besides the small tank nit much I don’t like about it, granted I have a dually to tow, so besides a tiny 3000lb trailer is all I need it for, but def wouldn’t want to tow up to max though, prob get 12mpg at best
I bet it will get recalled for the engine or transmission.
At the kind of money I'd rather pay a bit more and just get the gx550
I own a 1958. Its silky smooth...no jerkiness