definitely get new cordinators. I understand having all these players hurt on defence (Savage and others), but the playcalling is actually terrible, especially defence. Letting Allan absolutely kill you is not ok.
Press Taylor was the Colts top offensive assistant in 2021 when Wentz choked and scored 11 points in a must win game vs the 2-14 jaguars. Trevor is 0-9 his last 9 games with the poison press calling plays eagles went 4-12 in 2020 under Press Taylor’s guidance
Press Taylor was the Colts top offensive assistant in 2021 when Wentz choked and scored 11 points in a must win game vs the 2-14 jaguars. Trevor is 0-9 his last 9 games with the poison press calling plays eagles went 4-12 in 2020 under Press Taylor’s guidance.
Balke is by far the biggest problem. Press Taylor offense plays are dull and unimaginative and this situation is exacerbated by brainless play calling. A better offensive line and coach could fix the worst problem.
And don’t forget about their secondary. It stinks almost as much as the O line. But yeah, Baalke is a buffoon, The Khans aren’t particularly great at running the franchise, and Doug Pederson is NOT a good head coach.
@@chevy4x466 I didn’t connect the dots but someone said he didn’t want hutch cuz Jim coached him which makes perfect sense… he’s a spiteful peace of shit…
I don’t understand why everyone is making excuses for TL. He’s in year 3 with a Super Bowl winning coach and some decent weapons around him being paid $250 mil + and it should be expected that he elevate the team around him with no excuses.
Jacksonville has always been kind of a shit show and I think people want to give struggling young players a chance. It's not just Trevor that's fucked up in this organization.
Everyone giving excuses since most people crowned him a 'generational talent' and were getting his gold jacket ready on draft day; now they don't want their takes on him to be wrong. We'll probably be in the same spot with Caleb Williams in a few years
At least Trevor can theoretically get better, Tua has already hit his ceiling with his very limited physical tools, Trevor has the tools of a Justin Herbert and still has the possibility to become that player, he’s also still just 24
Don't forget about Dak in Dallas. Jerry Jones probably never heard about the Watson scenario. Don't get me wrong: Dak is better than Lawrence but he doesn't deserve that amount of money. Truth is: The league has 32 teams and there are maybe 5-8 qb's are franchise guys. The teams overpay average guys cause there is no one else. Decision is: Pay Dak/Tua/Lawrence and hope for the best. Or put guys like Thomson, Heinecke etc. under center.
@@chevy4x466tbf Watson was a top 5 qb the last time he played and had been a pro bowler 3x in a row before that contract. While guaranteeing all the money was insane, he deserved money he got paid. Tua and Trevor never reached those levels yet got paid like they did.
Trent Baalke is a joke of a GM. How he passed on Hutch is beyond me. Why he paid Trevor Lawrence when there was still another year on his contract WITH a 5th year option available is also beyond me.
@@WestCoastCheeseHeadthey did accept Trevor’s 5 year option. His contract kicks in and is only payed over 55 million twice. Not defending but look into the contract🤝
The hype around this team never made sense to me. Last year’s hype was kind of warranted at the start of the year but even then it felt premature. After entering the league Trevor has looked like a middle of the pack quarterback at best with high physical upside and questionable decision making. Combine those two things and we see the inconsistent QB play where sometimes it can be great but other times you’re left scratching your head. Obviously the team as a whole has problems (still dont understand the walker pick), but having a top 5 paid qb that is missing receivers, skipping passes, and not making the correct reads is a huge issue when he has been touted as “the savior” And “generational”.
I think his big issue is that he doesn’t lift up the guys around him. He’s good when everything else is going well on the team. But if things aren’t good with the team, he doesn’t have the ability to overcome that or lift his teammates up with his play.
No. Come _on_ people! We saw this happen to Lamar to a certain extent, possibly Mac Jones, & definitely Justin Fields. If play-calling doesn't matter, why hire certain coaches or pay them more? If the play-caller sends the receivers on A, they *_HAVE_** to run **_those_** routes,* not other ones. In '22 Lawrence was capable of overcoming 4-score deficits against playoff-worthy teams. They came from behind *twice in one game* to beat the Ravens _in the regular season where Lamar is all-time king._ You can't do _that_ if you're JAG. I needed to see exactly One Play in '23 to see they weren't running plays like in '22. One. Pederson is like McVay in that every play looks nearly identical when it starts, confusing defenses. They simply Were Not Doing This in '23. As a result, all the timing of when receivers got where were different *and unpredictable!* Look at what % of any QB's throws are anticipation ones. He kept throwing these to Ridley, only because the play-caller made him & his what, 183 lbs the X receiver, he'd get shoved at the LOS & arrive late to the point of reception. & you all _saw_ this & blamed Ridley, Lawrence, anyone but the idiot play-caller who doesn't understand basic concepts as what X receiver means. _Clearly_ Pederson is being forced to allow Press Taylor to call plays otherwise they'd both be forced & *clearly* the push for this _has to come_ from ownership, the people paying Pederson's salary. *His* hands are tied & so the team is screwed. If they don't change Just That, nothing else will work. The players' hands are tied as well. Who can they point out these problems to?
You don’t need 3 receivers to compete. The chargers, Steelers, commanders, and bills are proving that. Even the chiefs last year didn’t have that much of an explosive receiving corps
The quarterback play in that division is awful besides Stroud, but he is still young, but good. The Jaguars have been passed by the Texans due to having a better GM, roster, coach and quarterback in a very short period of time.
Lawrence is just Daniel Jones in italic. A bit fancier but nothing special. Look up their stats, they're frighteningly similar in terms of QB rating over their career, fumbles, completion % ect ect. Daniel Jones isn't as bad as he gets trolled for, but Lawrence isn't as good as his hopefuls think, and he's getting paid 15 mil more per season than Danny Dimes. That's an elite edge rushers salary. Could Lawrence be 'that guy' by the time he's 28 or so? Sure. But pay him elite money then, not now.
Personally, I don’t think having a Super Bowl winning head coach means much anymore. If history has taught us anything, it’s that in the last 4 years, coaches who were once praised for their offensive ingenuity are now being thrown out the airlock because of defenses that have gotten faster, quicker to diagnose, and smarter to playcalling than ever before. We’re going back in time to where having a good running game is required to even win games, let alone be successful in the playoffs. Defenses will have to start stocking up on powerful run defenders is the Line and in the LB core. Less money to go around on offense means RB’s will get their values inflated by around 2027.
Thank goodness because its honestly sad how little they get paid to every other position that's as vital to a team's success. The fact that you can get a Derrick Henry for like 13-16mil a year is insane
It’s tricky because you can’t get rid of TLaw at this point. You gotta clean house starting with Baalke and Pederson, get a competent drafter, get a coach who can really focus on making Trevor better. If you watched his Clemson tape, none of the stuff Lawrence is showing should be super surprising albeit its worse than expected. Point being - Lawrence needed to be developed and he hasn’t. He came in with the expectation that he was going to be a Pro Bowler. Let that go. Make him better and draft to build the house around him. Sign a WR1 and hope BTJ can develop into one so then you have two. Replace the tackles maybe move Harrison to guard. Develop secondary and LB depth. It’s a complete rebuild all while having/hoping TLaw can improve. If not he’s Sam Bradfordish
If I was in the front office, I would’ve sat on Trevor’s extension until after the season. There was no rush. And now they wrote themselves into a corner on this one. It’s gonna get bleak(er) - and they’re gonna be tough to watch.
I wish my job was like the qb market. "Hey why am i not making as much as him?" "Because you suck" "Okay but we play the same position and actually you should give me more than him" "You have two years left on your contract tho" (Two months negotiation) "Okay take the money and shut up now please"
I mean, if he was put on the trade block there would be a dozen teams clamoring to trade first round picks to get him. I don't blame the jags for wanting to keep him in Jacksonville
Teams just have to sign a QB. Some are lucky to hit on true champs (the usual 6 established names), other teams hit on a decent but not great QB, and can't pass him up. Have to sign him, hoping he gets better and develop into a true game changer.
Thing is: There are few true franchise quarterbacks available - maybe 5 to 8. On the lower level you have guys like Lawrence, Tua, Dak, Mayfield... Decision is to overpay them with franchise money or go with guys like Thomson, Clipboard Jesus and so on.
Currently in the midst of a rewatch of the good place, so seeing the Jaguars still having troubles even years after that show came out just makes the Jaguar jokes even funnier. “Bortles!”
Also they don't know how to properly use Travis Etienne Jr. You don't constantly run one of the best all-purpose RBs in the league constantly in between the tackles. They need to design plays from him in space to maximize his yardage & Trevor needs to start hitting his receivers in stride. A lot of this falls back on the GM & TL & Pederson for not getting out the best of their guys. It's going to be a long season considering Houston just got beat but are a much better suited football team at the moment & are looking to take out their frustrations against Jacksonville who just got absolutely destroyed against Buffalo.
The Texans are taking the division at this point. Jags are stuck with trevor lawrence, colts have an erratic thrower and tennessee has a qb who isn't as bright as he looks
I got hope for the colts if Anthony can clean up his passing/decision making . As for Levis, he’s not bad either but man he’s been funny to watch play 😂
@@itsleo5697 so you don’t know football works and you don’t know how contracts work lol. Why do yall watch a sport you know nothing about in a league you know nothing about? Maybe makes it easier though
@@dietiron2824like I’m taking advice about FOOTBALL from someone defending TREVOR LAWRENCE. You and your irrelevant opinion belong in the trash dude lol
@@dietiron2824 also he has less career TDs than Daniel Jones, and he has only half of Daniel Jones TDs this year currently. 🤡 Why do YOU act like you know football? Lmao
It's not just 2024. Over the course of their careers, Trevor Lawrence and Daniel Jones are statistically IDENTICAL. The simple fact of the matter is the TL just isn't that good, but because media narratives control the sport he's getting paid $250M and the problems in Jacksonville are everyone else's fault. Yes Baalke sucks and yes Doug Peterson has been disappointing, but Peterson is still a super bowl winning coach with Nick Foles and Carson Wentz and the offensive skill players over the last few years have been above average. If they start over, it will only get worse and Lawrence has shown that he isn't one of those elite guys that can carry bad rosters.
@@itsleo5697 it looks fine! Glad to see you kept your rebuttal for after a game where he made a couple of mistakes obviously caused by confidence! Really showcasing your intelligence little man! Jags were underdogs and covered. No one in media gave them a chance 😂losing doesn’t change that
@@dietiron2824 sounds like you’re coping. Anything to never admit you are wrong huh? You and Trevor should do the sport a favor and leave. Maybe the circus will hire you? They always need more clowns 🤡
trevor lawrence hasn't been very good this year and needs to be better. this is true, but it's ALSO true that he is not close to being the main issue with this team. the coaching is disastrous, the oline is disastrous, the run game (in turn) is terrible. it's like driving a nice car down a road with potholes everywhere. No QB besides probably Allen or Mahomes could make this work. and for those who are gonna say "well doug has a super bowl" he does, but what has he done besides that? the league has passed him by as an offensive mind, he got himself run out of town 2 years after winning a super bowl, and the players clearly do not trust him any more. the fact lawrence has suddenly and inexplicably regressed in a lot of aspects of his play, namely accuracy and pocket presence, should be setting off GIANT alarm bells in your head that something is not right on the coaching staff of this team.
Very good points. Before the season I thought that we were one of the most unpredictable teams in the league, after going 9-8 but with some upgrades (BTJ) we could get 10 wins as a ceiling, but could also be bottom of the division. The start of the season has been even worse than that, this team really needs a hard reset which is depressing after all the potential at the end of 2022. Literally the only positive of this season has been BTJ looking like a star receiver, but his stats should be so much better if not for Trevor's constant missed throws. I think Mac Jones will start a game (through injury or benching Trevor) before the season is over, and that will be the fatal blow for Trevor's Jaguars career despite the contract.
Once Deshaun gets benched, I think teams will become more comfortable with sitting their absurdly paid woefully underperforming qb's. Hell, even the Bills and the Chargers have taken the ball out of their quarterback's hands
The way I could see the Jags successfully maneuvering this situation is 1st things 1st fire Trent Baalke and hire someone like Adam Peters. Personally I like Doug but Baalke has failed to make trades, sign free agents and hit on draft picks which led to Doug’s offense being anemic. I’d get some offensive talent, completely ignore the defense for now and try my best to get Trevor on the right path.
They can do better than Doug Pederson by hiring Ben Johnson or one of these young Offensive coaches that can work with TLaw and Brian Thomas, focus on fixing that damn O-Line
@@julioponce799 IMHO the coach prospects are pretty spotty for Trevor’s needs. None have any experience developing a project qb and none run a consistently great offense. Ben Johnson, Klint Kubiak and Kellen Moore are all underwhelming and will probably be bad coaches.
@@julioponce799 also Oline play is spotty but I think a veteran WR1 would help a lot more than an linemen. They shouldn’t have let Ridley walk or at least they should’ve signed someone.
@@codyb1909 I think they made the right decision to let Ridley walk and draft Brian Thomas because you can get the same production if not better at a cheaper price for the next 5 years. That's one of the few times i give Baalke credit for. They desperately need O-line help to establish a run game
@@codyb1909 Trevor likes to drop back and hold the ball too long. He needs an oline that can pass block for 4 or 5 seconds. Doesn't matter who the receivers are when he has 1 or 2 seconds before he's being chased.
How many times do they have to rebuild. I’m not even a jags fan but it’s aggravating seeing how whenever they get good and establish a really good young roster they always crumble. They gotta make it happen now.
Perhaps they can fire their GM first instead of the usual carousel of Head coaches and QBs most teams go through...or Khan can sell his team cause he also seems to be the issue.
I cut up my Trevor Lawrence Jersey today and turned it into cat toys for my cats. So even though im done with that bum Trevor, at least he is still providing entertainment to my cats! 😺😸
Most receivers don't matter outside guys like Randy Moss or great TEs like gronk and kekce. When's the last time you thought, oh, that QB would've been great if only he had great receivers? Doesn't exist.
Giving a young QB great weapons is very important because he's on a rookie contract so you can afford to surround him with talent which helps a lot with his confidence. Look at Mahomes and Allen. Hell Peyton Manning won 5 MVP's and threw to HOF players like Marvin Harrison, Edgerrin James, Dallas Clark, Reggie Wayne in Indy. In Denver he had Demaryus Thomas, Wes Welker, Eric Decker, Julius Thomas, and Knowshon Moreno
@@julioponce799 your not wrong. I'm just saying I think Peyton made Dallas Clark and Marvin and Reggie great. Not trying to take things away from them, but indifferent situations we never hear from ant of those huge withering QB.
@@watcherofthewest8597 The only receiver I actually like is Brian Thomas Jr because he's an elite athlete with great speed but again he's really young at 21. Christian Kirk is an average slot receiver, Gabe Davis is just a big body deep threat that runs posts because he can't run routes, and even then he was too inconsistent, even Josh Allen couldn't trust him. Etienne just needs better run blocking. I think the Jags need a young Offensive mind that brings a burst of that energy into a locker room like the Texans have with Demeco Ryans
In the months before Trevor Lawrence was drafted when everyone was calling him a "generational transcendent QB talent" I told my friends that I don't believe he'll ever win a Superbowl and probably never even make it to one. They couldn't believe I could think that but I am now more convinced than ever that I was spot on.
@@julioponce799 and I'm sure Dan Marino was thinking the same thing when he was facing doubters in his 20s, sadly for him he did not get the last laugh and neither will Trevor Lawrence
Joe Montana still hypes Dan up though so it ain't all bad to be him. I wouldnt mention Dan and Trevor in the same sentence or paragraph. Maybe talk about Dan one day and then Trevor the following week for appropriate distance
The Pick to Damar Hamlin is on the receiver, he gets caught up with the opposite CB in the middle and then comes back underneath 2-3 yards. If he goes where he’s supposed to go 2-3 yards up field that’s a catch and a 35 yard gain.
I'm always amused that when a team has great players, the coach gets called a GENIUS; but when the roster is weak, suddenly that same guy is a bum. I never liked Pederson but had to listen to everyone crow about how great he was when the Eagles won the Superbowl with him as head coach. Same with Andy Reid: He was great, then Philly hated him when things turned bad. Now he's a genius again. Ridiculous.
Coaches are just the easiest scapegoats and they're accepted as being disposable so they are treated as such. Andy has always been beloved, but he was perceived as never being able to win the big game and Philly is a tough place to be a part of any sports organization. The culture here is that no one is special and there's a zero tolerance policy on fuckery unless they can at least get behind you as a person.
As an Eagles fan, I was stoked when Dougie P was hired in Jacksonville. We saw what kind of coach he is and there's still a lot of love for the guy who brought us our first ring. Doug is capable of being a great coach but where, i dont know.
It really is sad to see what has happened to this organization, especially after how much hope there was at the end of the 2022 season. I am an Eagles fan, so I am forever thankful for everything that Doug Pederson did for the franchise. However, that is now two straight teams that have collapsed and underperformed expectations under Doug's watch.
baalke needs to be charged with crimes against football for what he did to sf and ruining tlaw’s career (i get he’s been disappointing, but still, when he has that stretch in 2022, the fact he regressed from that is an organization issue). pederson needs to be FIRED too.
Jacksonville Jaguars fan here Trevor Lawrence does deserve some blame but it's only part of the issue. Jacksonville Jaguars has problems in all three aspects(Offense Defense and Special Teams). I got it on Pro Football Reference We have the 6th worst passing offense in NFL and third least explosive offense overall.Offensive line can't block well at all.6th worst in pass play explosiveness.Tied 5th in most sacks allowed. Surprisingly we are one the most explosive teams in running the ball but that might been inflated by the Buffalo game with garbage time stats.We are terrible converting 3rd downs. One the worst teams in red zone attempts to red zone touchdowns Defense can't produce a turnover and we the only team with a doughnut in creating turnovers. We have the 3rd worst passing defense.We allowed the most yards after catch.We are one of the worst teams defensively to stop other teams scoring touchdowns in red zone teritory. Special Teams:We have the third worst kick return and punt return average. So that makes a long field for the offense to drive Get Trent Baalke and Doug Pederson out of here.We lost 4 straight regular season game.We on a 5 game road game skid.We on a 7 game conference losing streak when facing other AFC opponents.I honestly wasn't very optimistic about 2024 season and predicted 3rd place in AFC South for best case scenario.
I will argue the Hutchinson take is revisionist history because he has performed so well. The general consensus was he was a good prospect, but I can't recall anyone who thought he'd develop into a great pass rusher (outside of Michigan). He has been great and because of that the optics for the Jags doesn't look so good.
I'm glad you said the entire franchise is in shambles. Has Trevor been average at best most of the time, absolutely (coming from someone who has loved watching him since he was a HS prospect). He has no excuse this year for the bad overthrows and the missed opportunities he gets. I think we are beating the dead horse with ripping on the "generational talent", that ship has left the harbor a long time ago. This team does well when the defense is causing takeaways and that was evident early in the 2023 season when the jags were the 1 seed in the AFC. Honestly, press taylor runs the most innefective offense that doesn't play into Trevor's, BTJ's, Gabe's, or Kirk's strengths. Again Trevor has his problems but he's not confident in the line and it seems like he's more worried about getting hurt again like last year and also he doesn't feel confident his receivers will pull in the ball. I think Trevor has the talent to become a top 10 QB but i don't think he will reach an elite level any time soon with the elementary mistakes hes making
I don’t think choosing to bill one QB out of each draft class as a generational talent helps. The way people were talking about him coming out of Clemson, you’d swear he would have gone to two AFC Champs and a SB by now
Peyton Manning, Andrew Luck, John Elway were all considered generational prospects. This isn't basketball where one player carries a team to championship contention. You need to build a great roster with good coaches and half decent ownership to win consistently, which the Jags have been failing at for decades
look at the play at 3:33 - he missed the throw, but more importantly he missed the read. If you are looking directly at that side of the field why wouldn't you throw it to BTJ who is uncovered? He can't read a defense. I remember people talking about Bortles' physical talent as well - the QB is the position where physical tools matter the least - trevor is a bad qb.
Said Trevor was a bust 2yrs ago. Yea ive been wrong in the past, but this dude really stood out to me as him just not being the guy. The hype surrounded by him was foolish. He's probably 20th in the league for QBs.
He needs an offensive coordinator that can scheme better plays. He’s a talented QB and they would be burned if they trade him and he finds success with another team
Why do people make excuses for this guy? He’s been objectively bad for a while now, with one bright spot here and there that’s just enough to keep public perception. He isn’t hitting throws and he still struggles with recognising defensive schemes
Teams have to start saying no on these qb contracts on guys who are just ok or pretty good. It’s too expensive and hurts your team too much if they can’t both elevate your roster AND play all the games.
- Worst O line - Worst Defence - A WR2 as WR1 - Worst Run Blocking, so Ettiene is useless - Catastrophic playcalls and coaching Trevor has the talent, we have seen glimpses, but with all those problems he will never reach it and will continue to look like an Overpaid Daniel Jones. Those with a keen eye know that both of them are not even close but unfortunately for Trevor his team is failing him and he is not in the right space mentally to produce quality football.
Funny how you mention Daniel jones as if he hasn’t had a worse situation than Tlaw for his whole career. The only difference is Jones didn’t have draft hype several years ago to fool you.
What are these flashes you're talking about? Genuine question, I was a Lawrence fan, I made all his excuses, I've tried to pretend he's the man, I've watched a good amount of jags film and like. Every player is going to look good sometimes, and I think you're just remembering Lawrence's good ones a bit more than you're remember his bad ones, I did it too :(
@@qwikscopez6619 I see them troughout his career, let's not act like the whole game is played by QBs, there is a huge chance if Trevor goes to a different club he can be an MVP candidate. Look at Darnold and how good he is with the vikings, you think Darnold can grab a win with this Jaguars lineup, I think Darnold goes 0-4 just like Trevor. Same thing with Fields, last year he was not even a top 40qb and look at him now, sure he's not MVP, but in a better system that fits his style he performs better. This goes for any qb, these are elite players and Trevor has shown that in college, he has also shown that he can compete and get a win in the playoffs. He is absolute trash right now but that does not mean he doesn't have potential, he is still very young and a change of environment can be really good for him.
@@stechnicalmike3058 Darnold is in a Kevin o connell offence, he's an all time great offensive coach with great players but like. All you said there is "if he was here he would do X" I struggle to find that compelling, I definitely think it makes alot more sense to see what HAS happened, and make slight adjustments on it. Fields is a bang average QB relying on defence, that's not worth quarter of a billion. I think the jags run a bad offence AND Trevor misses easy throws alot both can be true. I think maybe Tlaw could get the Darnold treatment and maybe see some success on a different team. But from what we've seen on the jags, he's not close to being worth what he's paid and that's the real killer. An average to above average qb getting more money than Rodgers got for 2011
Jags legit had to pay him because nobody wanted to talk about how trevor lawrence is mid until AFTER he got paid lmao. Like now you want to say it, jags were basically held ransom cause he was SO GENERATIONAL GUARANTEED IT'S ALL THE JAGS FAULT!!
You're speaking all facts. It was radio silence on Trevor Lawrence until this year and it pissed me off considering how much they grill players like Lamar, Dak, Tua, etc for playing way better than him. Fields and Daniel Jones had nowhere near the amount of hype as him, in worse situations, and were getting killed on the daily. They werent saying shit about him having as many touchdowns as turnovers over his career up to this point. To me, that means you didnt contribute anything when you take away as many points as you have provided
Trevor Lawrence is exactly who we thought he was. Now they’re stuck with him , unless they can convince someone to take him off their hands. There’s always someone who thinks they can make something out of other teams misstep.
First I must praise your proper use of statistics. Instead of vomiting them to look smart, you use them to support your analysis on specific in game situations. Makes your overall content very cohesive and interesting. As for the Jags, it seems they seem to easily impressed with big athletic guys at the expense of them cohesion and football IQ. Don't get me wrong, if you can get your hands on some athletic freaks, go for it. But there's over 20 starter spots to fill on a team and any weak link will be quickly exploited by the opposing team. Same problem with teams who seem to manage their roster based on marketing/politics. In a very cerebral game, they make most of their decisions relying on their emotions.
Yes. They need to get rid of Taylor as OC, bench Trevor for Jones and Kirk for Washington until they figure things out, utilize Thomas Jr. for more down field threats, and get their defensive stars back and keep them healthy.
trevor was supposed too be a “generational talent” lmao he’s a okay qb at best and the tape shows that even the year they went too the playoffs trevor’s stats for that season weren’t that great.
What Do You Think The Jags Should Do? 🤔
definitely get new cordinators. I understand having all these players hurt on defence (Savage and others), but the playcalling is actually terrible, especially defence. Letting Allan absolutely kill you is not ok.
Get rid of press Taylor
Press Taylor was the Colts top offensive assistant in 2021 when Wentz choked and scored 11 points in a must win game vs the 2-14 jaguars. Trevor is 0-9 his last 9 games with the poison press calling plays eagles went 4-12 in 2020 under Press Taylor’s guidance
They don’t need to start over they would have won 12 games last year with an average oc and would be 2-1 right now
Press Taylor was the Colts top offensive assistant in 2021 when Wentz choked and scored 11 points in a must win game vs the 2-14 jaguars. Trevor is 0-9 his last 9 games with the poison press calling plays eagles went 4-12 in 2020 under Press Taylor’s guidance.
Trent balke ruined this franchise. And he’s gonna get Doug fired. Stupid picks and thinks he knows it all. Basically handcuffed Doug and the jags
In SF we saw the Harbaugh era ruined by Balke's draft picks.
He drafted the one dude over hutch 😂😂😂 with the #1 pick 😢. Not sure why he overpaid for Trevor, he could have just tagged him.
Balke is by far the biggest problem. Press Taylor offense plays are dull and unimaginative and this situation is exacerbated by brainless play calling. A better offensive line and coach could fix the worst problem.
And don’t forget about their secondary. It stinks almost as much as the O line. But yeah, Baalke is a buffoon, The Khans aren’t particularly great at running the franchise, and Doug Pederson is NOT a good head coach.
@@chevy4x466 I didn’t connect the dots but someone said he didn’t want hutch cuz Jim coached him which makes perfect sense… he’s a spiteful peace of shit…
I don’t understand why everyone is making excuses for TL. He’s in year 3 with a Super Bowl winning coach and some decent weapons around him being paid $250 mil + and it should be expected that he elevate the team around him with no excuses.
Jacksonville has always been kind of a shit show and I think people want to give struggling young players a chance. It's not just Trevor that's fucked up in this organization.
The jags OC ain’t helping him out though, situational play calling is a joke.
He's in year 4
Its cause how often he flashes elite ability wildly inconsistent
Everyone giving excuses since most people crowned him a 'generational talent' and were getting his gold jacket ready on draft day; now they don't want their takes on him to be wrong. We'll probably be in the same spot with Caleb Williams in a few years
Trevor and Tua are two clear cut examples of why you don’t give massive contracts to just average quarterback play.
Don’t forget about Watson 😂😂😂😂
At least Trevor can theoretically get better, Tua has already hit his ceiling with his very limited physical tools, Trevor has the tools of a Justin Herbert and still has the possibility to become that player, he’s also still just 24
Don't forget about Dak in Dallas. Jerry Jones probably never heard about the Watson scenario. Don't get me wrong: Dak is better than Lawrence but he doesn't deserve that amount of money. Truth is: The league has 32 teams and there are maybe 5-8 qb's are franchise guys. The teams overpay average guys cause there is no one else. Decision is: Pay Dak/Tua/Lawrence and hope for the best. Or put guys like Thomson, Heinecke etc. under center.
@@chevy4x466tbf Watson was a top 5 qb the last time he played and had been a pro bowler 3x in a row before that contract. While guaranteeing all the money was insane, he deserved money he got paid. Tua and Trevor never reached those levels yet got paid like they did.
@@temo7073what has DeShaun Watson done for them lately
Trent Baalke is a joke of a GM. How he passed on Hutch is beyond me.
Why he paid Trevor Lawrence when there was still another year on his contract WITH a 5th year option available is also beyond me.
Yea that’s just dumb accept the 5th year option
@@WestCoastCheeseHeadthey did accept Trevor’s 5 year option. His contract kicks in and is only payed over 55 million twice. Not defending but look into the contract🤝
I was at the game last season against the Bengals, truly was the beginning of the downfall. My Jags need a hard reset
Wrong offense was horrible all season everything has gone downhill since press Taylor started calling plays
It's ok jags fans, us dolphins fans are about to be in the same boat, we can implode together
I was there too. Trevor played great in that game, then he got injured
he was becoming a superstar and reaching a rize in his potential that injury set him back n fucked up his mental he wasnt the same after that game
Crazy to think that just keeping minshew would’ve been a far better outcome
Doug Peterson’s three seasons with the Jaguars it’s like a JJ Abrams franchise. First one was great, Second one was mediocre, third one was terrible.
"Great".
Trent Baalke would never draft Aiden Hutchinson because he played for Harbaugh at Michigan.
I wanted Aiden to. I'm still hurt about that pick
As a new Lions fan, I love that decision
The hype around this team never made sense to me. Last year’s hype was kind of warranted at the start of the year but even then it felt premature.
After entering the league Trevor has looked like a middle of the pack quarterback at best with high physical upside and questionable decision making. Combine those two things and we see the inconsistent QB play where sometimes it can be great but other times you’re left scratching your head.
Obviously the team as a whole has problems (still dont understand the walker pick), but having a top 5 paid qb that is missing receivers, skipping passes, and not making the correct reads is a huge issue when he has been touted as “the savior” And “generational”.
Lawrence is a serviceable QB with a decent arm capable of making the occasional great throw
A few backup QB’s can also say that too
He’s just a guy
I’ve been thinking that since he was in college, good not great qb
I think his big issue is that he doesn’t lift up the guys around him. He’s good when everything else is going well on the team. But if things aren’t good with the team, he doesn’t have the ability to overcome that or lift his teammates up with his play.
No. Come _on_ people! We saw this happen to Lamar to a certain extent, possibly Mac Jones, & definitely Justin Fields. If play-calling doesn't matter, why hire certain coaches or pay them more? If the play-caller sends the receivers on A, they *_HAVE_** to run **_those_** routes,* not other ones. In '22 Lawrence was capable of overcoming 4-score deficits against playoff-worthy teams. They came from behind *twice in one game* to beat the Ravens _in the regular season where Lamar is all-time king._ You can't do _that_ if you're JAG.
I needed to see exactly One Play in '23 to see they weren't running plays like in '22. One. Pederson is like McVay in that every play looks nearly identical when it starts, confusing defenses. They simply Were Not Doing This in '23.
As a result, all the timing of when receivers got where were different *and unpredictable!* Look at what % of any QB's throws are anticipation ones. He kept throwing these to Ridley, only because the play-caller made him & his what, 183 lbs the X receiver, he'd get shoved at the LOS & arrive late to the point of reception. & you all _saw_ this & blamed Ridley, Lawrence, anyone but the idiot play-caller who doesn't understand basic concepts as what X receiver means.
_Clearly_ Pederson is being forced to allow Press Taylor to call plays otherwise they'd both be forced & *clearly* the push for this _has to come_ from ownership, the people paying Pederson's salary. *His* hands are tied & so the team is screwed. If they don't change Just That, nothing else will work. The players' hands are tied as well.
Who can they point out these problems to?
@@ChewsCarefullybuddy trevor isn’t a good qb idgaf what you say boy is barely above average trevor is okay.
@@ChewsCarefullyHis Defense Overcame the Chargers💀
You don’t need 3 receivers to compete. The chargers, Steelers, commanders, and bills are proving that. Even the chiefs last year didn’t have that much of an explosive receiving corps
Ummm Offensive line😂. And what wr lol kirk? He's also playing with a rookie who's actually the number 1
They have Mahomes and just like Brady... That's all you need.
@@stevenmantovani5077and the refs😂
The quarterback play in that division is awful besides Stroud, but he is still young, but good. The Jaguars have been passed by the Texans due to having a better GM, roster, coach and quarterback in a very short period of time.
Too early to say stroud is good
@@pascho1057he is good, he looked like a vet as a rookie
@@pascho1057he’s good not elite yet
@@pascho1057 Name the 16 starting QBs you would rather have. Being top half of the league is "good"
@@dekaiaverett9931 Stroud is arguably top 10 and he's not #10
Lawrence is just Daniel Jones in italic. A bit fancier but nothing special. Look up their stats, they're frighteningly similar in terms of QB rating over their career, fumbles, completion % ect ect. Daniel Jones isn't as bad as he gets trolled for, but Lawrence isn't as good as his hopefuls think, and he's getting paid 15 mil more per season than Danny Dimes. That's an elite edge rushers salary.
Could Lawrence be 'that guy' by the time he's 28 or so? Sure. But pay him elite money then, not now.
Looks like the GM is most to blame. Giving TLaw that contract was crazy
Hiring Doug always confused the hell out of me. He had Carson Wentz and absolutely ruined him in Philly. Great idea bringing him in to coach TL.
Wentz was never liked in the locker room you can’t put that on him
Personally, I don’t think having a Super Bowl winning head coach means much anymore. If history has taught us anything, it’s that in the last 4 years, coaches who were once praised for their offensive ingenuity are now being thrown out the airlock because of defenses that have gotten faster, quicker to diagnose, and smarter to playcalling than ever before. We’re going back in time to where having a good running game is required to even win games, let alone be successful in the playoffs. Defenses will have to start stocking up on powerful run defenders is the Line and in the LB core. Less money to go around on offense means RB’s will get their values inflated by around 2027.
Thank goodness because its honestly sad how little they get paid to every other position that's as vital to a team's success. The fact that you can get a Derrick Henry for like 13-16mil a year is insane
Trevor Lawrence is the first qb to get a contract extension for being a good prospect.
People once called Lawrence a "generational Talent", now he's barely an average QB
And I don’t know why they ever did
Hes great don't listen to this guy he sounds butt hurt
"generational talent"- a decent freshman season at a stacked Clemson and then a steady decline from there.
It’s tricky because you can’t get rid of TLaw at this point. You gotta clean house starting with Baalke and Pederson, get a competent drafter, get a coach who can really focus on making Trevor better.
If you watched his Clemson tape, none of the stuff Lawrence is showing should be super surprising albeit its worse than expected. Point being - Lawrence needed to be developed and he hasn’t. He came in with the expectation that he was going to be a Pro Bowler. Let that go. Make him better and draft to build the house around him. Sign a WR1 and hope BTJ can develop into one so then you have two. Replace the tackles maybe move Harrison to guard. Develop secondary and LB depth. It’s a complete rebuild all while having/hoping TLaw can improve. If not he’s Sam Bradfordish
Contract money doesnt mean anything now a days, just means they have a good agent
It means the team has decided to ride-or-die because the cap commitment is huge
If I was in the front office, I would’ve sat on Trevor’s extension until after the season. There was no rush. And now they wrote themselves into a corner on this one. It’s gonna get bleak(er) - and they’re gonna be tough to watch.
The same folks who give TL grace grill Justin Fields when his name is mentioned. Trevor ain't what jags fans hype him up to be.
I thought T. Law was done last year. But then the Jags give him a quarter B. I thought the org saw something I didn’t.
I wish my job was like the qb market. "Hey why am i not making as much as him?"
"Because you suck"
"Okay but we play the same position and actually you should give me more than him"
"You have two years left on your contract tho"
(Two months negotiation)
"Okay take the money and shut up now please"
I mean, if he was put on the trade block there would be a dozen teams clamoring to trade first round picks to get him. I don't blame the jags for wanting to keep him in Jacksonville
Teams just have to sign a QB. Some are lucky to hit on true champs (the usual 6 established names), other teams hit on a decent but not great QB, and can't pass him up. Have to sign him, hoping he gets better and develop into a true game changer.
Thing is: There are few true franchise quarterbacks available - maybe 5 to 8. On the lower level you have guys like Lawrence, Tua, Dak, Mayfield... Decision is to overpay them with franchise money or go with guys like Thomson, Clipboard Jesus and so on.
@macgobhann8712 please list the 12 teams who would trade a first round pick for Lawrence
5:42 really cool photo of Damar Hamlin during his interception return
Currently in the midst of a rewatch of the good place, so seeing the Jaguars still having troubles even years after that show came out just makes the Jaguar jokes even funnier.
“Bortles!”
Commenting for good place engagement
Jortles!
I will never forgive the Jags for overpaying Christian Kirk and causing the inflation of the WR market.
Also they don't know how to properly use Travis Etienne Jr. You don't constantly run one of the best all-purpose RBs in the league constantly in between the tackles. They need to design plays from him in space to maximize his yardage & Trevor needs to start hitting his receivers in stride. A lot of this falls back on the GM & TL & Pederson for not getting out the best of their guys. It's going to be a long season considering Houston just got beat but are a much better suited football team at the moment & are looking to take out their frustrations against Jacksonville who just got absolutely destroyed against Buffalo.
I agree bone head play calls with their running game
I was never a fan of Trevor. He just never inspired me.
Said it since his sophomore college season. Dude aint him
As a Texans fan I think the Jags should keep doing what they're doing
The Texans are taking the division at this point. Jags are stuck with trevor lawrence, colts have an erratic thrower and tennessee has a qb who isn't as bright as he looks
I got hope for the colts if Anthony can clean up his passing/decision making .
As for Levis, he’s not bad either but man he’s been funny to watch play 😂
@@Lovexserenity6and he’s injured oof
I THINK THE FIRST PERSON THAT SHOULD BE FIRED IS BAALKE PUTTING THIS HORRIBLE TEAM TOGETHER
Quickly becoming one of my fav football channels man. Also I love how you use the Xzibit instrumental for background music lol
Brian Thomas Jr was wide open on that interception.
Trevor Lawrence has the same INTs and fumbles as Daniel Jones basically but in 2 less years. He is wayyyy overhyped.
And more TDs in 2 less years lol
@@dietiron2824 paid more than Pat Mahomes for.. 1 playoff win? Dude is a hack.
@@itsleo5697 so you don’t know football works and you don’t know how contracts work lol. Why do yall watch a sport you know nothing about in a league you know nothing about? Maybe makes it easier though
@@dietiron2824like I’m taking advice about FOOTBALL from someone defending TREVOR LAWRENCE. You and your irrelevant opinion belong in the trash dude lol
@@dietiron2824 also he has less career TDs than Daniel Jones, and he has only half of Daniel Jones TDs this year currently. 🤡 Why do YOU act like you know football? Lmao
this team is screwed after guaranteeing trevor lawrence all that money when all he’s showed is mediocrity
It's not just 2024. Over the course of their careers, Trevor Lawrence and Daniel Jones are statistically IDENTICAL. The simple fact of the matter is the TL just isn't that good, but because media narratives control the sport he's getting paid $250M and the problems in Jacksonville are everyone else's fault.
Yes Baalke sucks and yes Doug Peterson has been disappointing, but Peterson is still a super bowl winning coach with Nick Foles and Carson Wentz and the offensive skill players over the last few years have been above average. If they start over, it will only get worse and Lawrence has shown that he isn't one of those elite guys that can carry bad rosters.
I wish I could just look at stats and think I know anything lol. Film is all that matters
Well said. People want to keep giving TLaw excuses because he was a "generational" talent. Truth is- he just isn't very good.
@@dietiron2824 hows your film look now ya bum? You’re as good a football fan as the Jaguars are a winning football team.
@@itsleo5697 it looks fine! Glad to see you kept your rebuttal for after a game where he made a couple of mistakes obviously caused by confidence! Really showcasing your intelligence little man! Jags were underdogs and covered. No one in media gave them a chance 😂losing doesn’t change that
@@dietiron2824 sounds like you’re coping. Anything to never admit you are wrong huh? You and Trevor should do the sport a favor and leave. Maybe the circus will hire you? They always need more clowns 🤡
Quit making excuses for Trevor Lawrence!
trevor lawrence hasn't been very good this year and needs to be better. this is true, but it's ALSO true that he is not close to being the main issue with this team. the coaching is disastrous, the oline is disastrous, the run game (in turn) is terrible. it's like driving a nice car down a road with potholes everywhere. No QB besides probably Allen or Mahomes could make this work. and for those who are gonna say "well doug has a super bowl" he does, but what has he done besides that? the league has passed him by as an offensive mind, he got himself run out of town 2 years after winning a super bowl, and the players clearly do not trust him any more. the fact lawrence has suddenly and inexplicably regressed in a lot of aspects of his play, namely accuracy and pocket presence, should be setting off GIANT alarm bells in your head that something is not right on the coaching staff of this team.
How is bad coaching affecting his accuracy and pocket presence?
It’s starting to look very bad
Very good points. Before the season I thought that we were one of the most unpredictable teams in the league, after going 9-8 but with some upgrades (BTJ) we could get 10 wins as a ceiling, but could also be bottom of the division. The start of the season has been even worse than that, this team really needs a hard reset which is depressing after all the potential at the end of 2022.
Literally the only positive of this season has been BTJ looking like a star receiver, but his stats should be so much better if not for Trevor's constant missed throws.
I think Mac Jones will start a game (through injury or benching Trevor) before the season is over, and that will be the fatal blow for Trevor's Jaguars career despite the contract.
Once Deshaun gets benched, I think teams will become more comfortable with sitting their absurdly paid woefully underperforming qb's. Hell, even the Bills and the Chargers have taken the ball out of their quarterback's hands
“And with the first overall pick, the Jacksonville Jaguars select…”
Travon walker again, somehow. Seriously, what a stupid pick
Travis Hunter lol
@@jweirdkid it prob would be Travis Hunter
Not Aidan Hutchinson
@@corbums3927 They could’ve had Aidan Hutchison 😭💀💀
Time for Jacksonville and Miami to merge their failed franchises.
The Florida Jagphins
@@StoicalSnakemeet in the middle and make them the Orlando Magic because they gonna need it to save these sorry ass teams
…or the Doluars
The way I could see the Jags successfully maneuvering this situation is 1st things 1st fire Trent Baalke and hire someone like Adam Peters. Personally I like Doug but Baalke has failed to make trades, sign free agents and hit on draft picks which led to Doug’s offense being anemic. I’d get some offensive talent, completely ignore the defense for now and try my best to get Trevor on the right path.
They can do better than Doug Pederson by hiring Ben Johnson or one of these young Offensive coaches that can work with TLaw and Brian Thomas, focus on fixing that damn O-Line
@@julioponce799 IMHO the coach prospects are pretty spotty for Trevor’s needs. None have any experience developing a project qb and none run a consistently great offense. Ben Johnson, Klint Kubiak and Kellen Moore are all underwhelming and will probably be bad coaches.
@@julioponce799 also Oline play is spotty but I think a veteran WR1 would help a lot more than an linemen. They shouldn’t have let Ridley walk or at least they should’ve signed someone.
@@codyb1909 I think they made the right decision to let Ridley walk and draft Brian Thomas because you can get the same production if not better at a cheaper price for the next 5 years. That's one of the few times i give Baalke credit for. They desperately need O-line help to establish a run game
@@codyb1909 Trevor likes to drop back and hold the ball too long. He needs an oline that can pass block for 4 or 5 seconds. Doesn't matter who the receivers are when he has 1 or 2 seconds before he's being chased.
Most rookie qbs should be developed for a year or two before starting. Stroud and Daniels are the exceptions.
How many times do they have to rebuild. I’m not even a jags fan but it’s aggravating seeing how whenever they get good and establish a really good young roster they always crumble. They gotta make it happen now.
Perhaps they can fire their GM first instead of the usual carousel of Head coaches and QBs most teams go through...or Khan can sell his team cause he also seems to be the issue.
I cut up my Trevor Lawrence Jersey today and turned it into cat toys for my cats. So even though im done with that bum Trevor, at least he is still providing entertainment to my cats! 😺😸
Most receivers don't matter outside guys like Randy Moss or great TEs like gronk and kekce. When's the last time you thought, oh, that QB would've been great if only he had great receivers? Doesn't exist.
Giving a young QB great weapons is very important because he's on a rookie contract so you can afford to surround him with talent which helps a lot with his confidence. Look at Mahomes and Allen. Hell Peyton Manning won 5 MVP's and threw to HOF players like Marvin Harrison, Edgerrin James, Dallas Clark, Reggie Wayne in Indy. In Denver he had Demaryus Thomas, Wes Welker, Eric Decker, Julius Thomas, and Knowshon Moreno
@@julioponce799 your not wrong. I'm just saying I think Peyton made Dallas Clark and Marvin and Reggie great. Not trying to take things away from them, but indifferent situations we never hear from ant of those huge withering QB.
@@watcherofthewest8597 The only receiver I actually like is Brian Thomas Jr because he's an elite athlete with great speed but again he's really young at 21. Christian Kirk is an average slot receiver, Gabe Davis is just a big body deep threat that runs posts because he can't run routes, and even then he was too inconsistent, even Josh Allen couldn't trust him. Etienne just needs better run blocking. I think the Jags need a young Offensive mind that brings a burst of that energy into a locker room like the Texans have with Demeco Ryans
The Jags effectively missed on #1 overall picks two years in a row
In the months before Trevor Lawrence was drafted when everyone was calling him a "generational transcendent QB talent" I told my friends that I don't believe he'll ever win a Superbowl and probably never even make it to one. They couldn't believe I could think that but I am now more convinced than ever that I was spot on.
He's only in year 4 and he's 24. Peyton Manning didn't win a Super Bowl until he was 30. Your friends are gonna have the last laugh
@@julioponce799 and I'm sure Dan Marino was thinking the same thing when he was facing doubters in his 20s, sadly for him he did not get the last laugh and neither will Trevor Lawrence
Joe Montana still hypes Dan up though so it ain't all bad to be him. I wouldnt mention Dan and Trevor in the same sentence or paragraph. Maybe talk about Dan one day and then Trevor the following week for appropriate distance
Hahahah nice, nice
Brandon Staley merchants…I’m a chargers fan🙃
The Pick to Damar Hamlin is on the receiver, he gets caught up with the opposite CB in the middle and then comes back underneath 2-3 yards. If he goes where he’s supposed to go 2-3 yards up field that’s a catch and a 35 yard gain.
Chris Long had a huge segment about using "bust" QBs with better coordinators. I think Trevor could succeed in a Sam Darnold situation
you mean, continue starting over.
we started over in 2000 and havent stopped since....
Great analysis!
I'm always amused that when a team has great players, the coach gets called a GENIUS; but when the roster is weak, suddenly that same guy is a bum. I never liked Pederson but had to listen to everyone crow about how great he was when the Eagles won the Superbowl with him as head coach. Same with Andy Reid: He was great, then Philly hated him when things turned bad. Now he's a genius again. Ridiculous.
Coaches are just the easiest scapegoats and they're accepted as being disposable so they are treated as such. Andy has always been beloved, but he was perceived as never being able to win the big game and Philly is a tough place to be a part of any sports organization. The culture here is that no one is special and there's a zero tolerance policy on fuckery unless they can at least get behind you as a person.
TL with the finesse of the year
As an Eagles fan, I was stoked when Dougie P was hired in Jacksonville. We saw what kind of coach he is and there's still a lot of love for the guy who brought us our first ring.
Doug is capable of being a great coach but where, i dont know.
It really is sad to see what has happened to this organization, especially after how much hope there was at the end of the 2022 season. I am an Eagles fan, so I am forever thankful for everything that Doug Pederson did for the franchise. However, that is now two straight teams that have collapsed and underperformed expectations under Doug's watch.
It's unequivocally clear that the Jags players gave up on Trent, Doug, and maybe even Trevor.
baalke needs to be charged with crimes against football for what he did to sf and ruining tlaw’s career (i get he’s been disappointing, but still, when he has that stretch in 2022, the fact he regressed from that is an organization issue). pederson needs to be FIRED too.
Paying a mediocre QB is the worst decision a team can make
I still don't understand why he did that little spin in the pocket for fun.
Fire "Football Fabio"
Trevor has the charisma of a wet blanket
😂
He's Danny Dimes with long hair
Jacksonville Jaguars fan here Trevor Lawrence does deserve some blame but it's only part of the issue.
Jacksonville Jaguars has problems in all three aspects(Offense Defense and Special Teams). I got it on Pro Football Reference
We have the 6th worst passing offense in NFL and third least explosive offense overall.Offensive line can't block well at all.6th worst in pass play explosiveness.Tied 5th in most sacks allowed. Surprisingly we are one the most explosive teams in running the ball but that might been inflated by the Buffalo game with garbage time stats.We are terrible converting 3rd downs. One the worst teams in red zone attempts to red zone touchdowns
Defense can't produce a turnover and we the only team with a doughnut in creating turnovers. We have the 3rd worst passing defense.We allowed the most yards after catch.We are one of the worst teams defensively to stop other teams scoring touchdowns in red zone teritory.
Special Teams:We have the third worst kick return and punt return average. So that makes a long field for the offense to drive
Get Trent Baalke and Doug Pederson out of here.We lost 4 straight regular season game.We on a 5 game road game skid.We on a 7 game conference losing streak when facing other AFC opponents.I honestly wasn't very optimistic about 2024 season and predicted 3rd place in AFC South for best case scenario.
I will argue the Hutchinson take is revisionist history because he has performed so well. The general consensus was he was a good prospect, but I can't recall anyone who thought he'd develop into a great pass rusher (outside of Michigan). He has been great and because of that the optics for the Jags doesn't look so good.
man I like Trevor even as a bengals fan. Kinda hope he pulls a miracle and turns things around.
Jags need a hard reset with the front office
I'm glad you said the entire franchise is in shambles. Has Trevor been average at best most of the time, absolutely (coming from someone who has loved watching him since he was a HS prospect). He has no excuse this year for the bad overthrows and the missed opportunities he gets. I think we are beating the dead horse with ripping on the "generational talent", that ship has left the harbor a long time ago. This team does well when the defense is causing takeaways and that was evident early in the 2023 season when the jags were the 1 seed in the AFC. Honestly, press taylor runs the most innefective offense that doesn't play into Trevor's, BTJ's, Gabe's, or Kirk's strengths. Again Trevor has his problems but he's not confident in the line and it seems like he's more worried about getting hurt again like last year and also he doesn't feel confident his receivers will pull in the ball. I think Trevor has the talent to become a top 10 QB but i don't think he will reach an elite level any time soon with the elementary mistakes hes making
👆👆👆 Wait, you watch high school boys tackle each other? HEY, I FOUND HIM! RIGHT HERE
I don’t think choosing to bill one QB out of each draft class as a generational talent helps. The way people were talking about him coming out of Clemson, you’d swear he would have gone to two AFC Champs and a SB by now
Peyton Manning, Andrew Luck, John Elway were all considered generational prospects. This isn't basketball where one player carries a team to championship contention. You need to build a great roster with good coaches and half decent ownership to win consistently, which the Jags have been failing at for decades
look at the play at 3:33 - he missed the throw, but more importantly he missed the read. If you are looking directly at that side of the field why wouldn't you throw it to BTJ who is uncovered? He can't read a defense. I remember people talking about Bortles' physical talent as well - the QB is the position where physical tools matter the least - trevor is a bad qb.
I'll tell you this as a Lions fan, we were all loving the Jaguars for not selecting Hutchinson in the first round...Still do to this day actually.
So basically, another decade of mediocre football in Duval. It’s fine. We’re used to it.
7:11 terminator or halo background music?
I’m convinced that disrespecting the Terrible Towel cursed the Jags
In hindsight, it would've been better to keep Minshew
Daniel Jones best receiver before this year was Sterling Shephard and had the worst line in the league last year but no one makes excuse for him.
The jags the browns of the South back in the dumpster fire we all know and love them for...... Good once a decade
Remember how the Eagles collapsed after winning the Super Bowl? I wonder who their coach was.
Said Trevor was a bust 2yrs ago. Yea ive been wrong in the past, but this dude really stood out to me as him just not being the guy.
The hype surrounded by him was foolish. He's probably 20th in the league for QBs.
Being from Baltimore and a jag fan this is frustrating
Balke is the reason that Leftwich didnt take the job, and here we are!
He needs an offensive coordinator that can scheme better plays. He’s a talented QB and they would be burned if they trade him and he finds success with another team
Why do people make excuses for this guy? He’s been objectively bad for a while now, with one bright spot here and there that’s just enough to keep public perception. He isn’t hitting throws and he still struggles with recognising defensive schemes
@@Tom_yorgthen trade him for peanuts and start over
its crazy because engram is potentially a top 10 TE
Teams have to start saying no on these qb contracts on guys who are just ok or pretty good. It’s too expensive and hurts your team too much if they can’t both elevate your roster AND play all the games.
- Worst O line
- Worst Defence
- A WR2 as WR1
- Worst Run Blocking, so Ettiene is useless
- Catastrophic playcalls and coaching
Trevor has the talent, we have seen glimpses, but with all those problems he will never reach it and will continue to look like an Overpaid Daniel Jones. Those with a keen eye know that both of them are not even close but unfortunately for Trevor his team is failing him and he is not in the right space mentally to produce quality football.
Funny how you mention Daniel jones as if he hasn’t had a worse situation than Tlaw for his whole career. The only difference is Jones didn’t have draft hype several years ago to fool you.
@@samuelault4723 Tlaw was levels above in college tho
What are these flashes you're talking about? Genuine question, I was a Lawrence fan, I made all his excuses, I've tried to pretend he's the man, I've watched a good amount of jags film and like.
Every player is going to look good sometimes, and I think you're just remembering Lawrence's good ones a bit more than you're remember his bad ones, I did it too :(
@@qwikscopez6619 I see them troughout his career, let's not act like the whole game is played by QBs, there is a huge chance if Trevor goes to a different club he can be an MVP candidate. Look at Darnold and how good he is with the vikings, you think Darnold can grab a win with this Jaguars lineup, I think Darnold goes 0-4 just like Trevor. Same thing with Fields, last year he was not even a top 40qb and look at him now, sure he's not MVP, but in a better system that fits his style he performs better. This goes for any qb, these are elite players and Trevor has shown that in college, he has also shown that he can compete and get a win in the playoffs. He is absolute trash right now but that does not mean he doesn't have potential, he is still very young and a change of environment can be really good for him.
@@stechnicalmike3058 Darnold is in a Kevin o connell offence, he's an all time great offensive coach with great players but like. All you said there is "if he was here he would do X" I struggle to find that compelling, I definitely think it makes alot more sense to see what HAS happened, and make slight adjustments on it. Fields is a bang average QB relying on defence, that's not worth quarter of a billion. I think the jags run a bad offence AND Trevor misses easy throws alot both can be true.
I think maybe Tlaw could get the Darnold treatment and maybe see some success on a different team. But from what we've seen on the jags, he's not close to being worth what he's paid and that's the real killer. An average to above average qb getting more money than Rodgers got for 2011
They truly have been cursed by the disrespect of the Terrible Towel
Jags legit had to pay him because nobody wanted to talk about how trevor lawrence is mid until AFTER he got paid lmao. Like now you want to say it, jags were basically held ransom cause he was SO GENERATIONAL GUARANTEED IT'S ALL THE JAGS FAULT!!
You're speaking all facts. It was radio silence on Trevor Lawrence until this year and it pissed me off considering how much they grill players like Lamar, Dak, Tua, etc for playing way better than him. Fields and Daniel Jones had nowhere near the amount of hype as him, in worse situations, and were getting killed on the daily. They werent saying shit about him having as many touchdowns as turnovers over his career up to this point. To me, that means you didnt contribute anything when you take away as many points as you have provided
the best draft pick was 5th round Antonio Johnson. they gotta hell of a bargain.
He’s been awful lately
Trevor Lawrence is exactly who we thought he was. Now they’re stuck with him , unless they can convince someone to take him off their hands. There’s always someone who thinks they can make something out of other teams misstep.
Trevor Lawrence is a jag; he's just a guy.
Unless they trade the QB contract they can’t recover from having double Deshawn Watson dead cap hit if he was cut, which is like double Wilson’s
Top 5 pick I’m ready to accept it😔
First I must praise your proper use of statistics. Instead of vomiting them to look smart, you use them to support your analysis on specific in game situations. Makes your overall content very cohesive and interesting.
As for the Jags, it seems they seem to easily impressed with big athletic guys at the expense of them cohesion and football IQ. Don't get me wrong, if you can get your hands on some athletic freaks, go for it. But there's over 20 starter spots to fill on a team and any weak link will be quickly exploited by the opposing team.
Same problem with teams who seem to manage their roster based on marketing/politics. In a very cerebral game, they make most of their decisions relying on their emotions.
Yes. They need to get rid of Taylor as OC, bench Trevor for Jones and Kirk for Washington until they figure things out, utilize Thomas Jr. for more down field threats, and get their defensive stars back and keep them healthy.
Its baffling to say but Trevor Lawrence is somehow worse than Daniel Jones. A feat I never thought any QB could pull off.
trevor was supposed too be a “generational talent” lmao he’s a okay qb at best and the tape shows that even the year they went too the playoffs trevor’s stats for that season weren’t that great.
Ver disappointed in the prince. I'm out on Trevor
This is what happens to a club who released their quarterback just two years after he took them to the championship game, it's ridiculous and it shows