LEGENDS OF THE OLD WEST | Apache Wars Ep4: “Geronimo”

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  • Опубліковано 21 гру 2024

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  • @judithcampbell1705
    @judithcampbell1705 10 місяців тому +4

    I always feel sad when I think about what we've done to the Apache. Geronimo was a great man and a great warrior!!! I 💛 and respect him, and miss him! Thank you for sharing this.

  • @philfierro4356
    @philfierro4356 3 роки тому +42

    Just A True Native American Who Fought For His Family...Land & People Just As Any Of Us Would Do !! Really Enjoyed This...Well Done 👍

    • @teddysalad8227
      @teddysalad8227 3 роки тому +2

      No, not just as any of us would. Murder was their way of life. Geronimo got better than he deserved.

    • @jessecaldwell4195
      @jessecaldwell4195 3 роки тому +7

      @@teddysalad8227 . Murder wasn't their" way of life ".. they had to kill or be killed but murder ..though it occurred..was not a way of life

    • @teddysalad8227
      @teddysalad8227 3 роки тому +5

      @@jessecaldwell4195 raiding was their way of life. What is raiding but mass murder.

    • @jessecaldwell4195
      @jessecaldwell4195 3 роки тому +6

      @@teddysalad8227 . There were warparties that raided but more often then the purpose of murder it was the purpose to take horses and people to strengthen the tribe..if it was only to murder it is full on war to kill ..not raid. Besides this..not every Apache tribe were full time raiders..they traded,farmed and made alliances..but you make it as one way for all of them in your way of seeing it which doesn't make any common sense just as thinking all the new comers were murderers..just wasn't and never will be true

    • @teddysalad8227
      @teddysalad8227 3 роки тому +2

      @@jessecaldwell4195 you can have your rainbows and unicorns view of Apaches. I prefer to view them as they were.

  • @garyj2101
    @garyj2101 3 роки тому +7

    I have listen to all Ep.4 very good! 👍👍🤠

  • @pundamilia1191
    @pundamilia1191 Рік тому +4

    Another great documentary!
    The Indian wars always leave me feeling depressed and somewhat ashamed of our government. I understand how they must have felt and I admired the way they fought defending their land and their way of life. Of course I always come back to the understanding that none of us would be here unless we had won. But one thing is absolutely certain - we could never have defeated those people unless we had had them vastly out manned and out gunned. They were warriors in the truest sense of the word.

  • @frankdillon6127
    @frankdillon6127 2 роки тому +2

    have to say i have read/listen to many of this subject, but none better than your.P.S. i am 78 years and grew up in Apache country.

  • @mikefoltmer329
    @mikefoltmer329 4 роки тому +15

    I'm fairly knowledgeable on the chiricahua history of the 1800s. These guys do a pretty good job. Thanks

  • @charliemike13
    @charliemike13 3 роки тому +17

    So much we could learn, if only we actually learned history... of course, some isn’t allowed...

  • @gonzalojr596
    @gonzalojr596 3 роки тому +5

    Just one story of a great hero Geronimo.

  • @timothybrady2749
    @timothybrady2749 Рік тому +2

    An excellent and very informative presentation. Great job on this series.

  • @joshhonaker3085
    @joshhonaker3085 2 роки тому +3

    Chris wimmer you make my day so much better at work listening to these great stories keep up the good work sir

  • @panhandlingray
    @panhandlingray 2 роки тому +3

    Another fine series. As fine as Red Clouds Wars.

  • @sanderson9338
    @sanderson9338 3 роки тому +10

    True warrior people when provoked but amazing survivalist skills shown just to survive in this area. Much love from Scotland.

  • @walterviggiano3363
    @walterviggiano3363 2 роки тому +3

    After listening and watching the entire series, I find it fasinating and most interesting. I enjoyed it a lot and look forward to listening to more from this channel. Geronimo was one of the greatest leaders of the Apache Nation. It was good to hear that his people had gotten to return to their native home land. Of the Indian Chiefs he was always one of my favorites. Please keep these documentaries coming, and thank you.😊😊

  • @terryjones342
    @terryjones342 Рік тому +1

    One word, EXCELLENT..

  • @lachlanmckenzie2947
    @lachlanmckenzie2947 3 роки тому +7

    Loved it... hi from Australia

  • @trevorbinkowski9023
    @trevorbinkowski9023 2 роки тому +3

    What a badass series. Well delivered too.

  • @usmcgrunt3754
    @usmcgrunt3754 3 роки тому +6

    Congratulations on the series. Great narration, thoroughly researched and well prensented. 5 stars from me!

  • @andrewmaccallum2367
    @andrewmaccallum2367 Рік тому +1

    Fantastic 👏👏👏

  • @ltd2372
    @ltd2372 3 роки тому +3

    Always enjoy this story about this great war leader and his resistance against his enemies is and will always throughout history be legendary. Sad in his last days on how he caught that newmonia.

  • @privatepilot4064
    @privatepilot4064 Рік тому +5

    I live in the very area this documentary is based on. This series brings a lot of things together for me historically. Bravo on an exceptional production. Very well done! It has given me a whole different respect for the American Natives, the Apache in particular. They could be faithful friends to anyone who would be their friends. And a fearsome terror to anyone who would be their enemies. I don’t blame them for what they fought for. It was their right.

  • @Annie-to8ef
    @Annie-to8ef 3 роки тому +5

    Chief Geronimo🙏🏽🙏🏽🙏🏽🙏🏽🙏🏽🙏🏽warrior!!!!

  • @madsketchy9261
    @madsketchy9261 2 роки тому +6

    This really paints the US in a good light, they didn’t keep their word and the apaches weren’t United with their families for years, also Geronimo tried numerous times to work with the US and often retaliated from their advances

    • @psalmsurfer1
      @psalmsurfer1 Рік тому

      You mean corrupt DC was even corrupt back then?😅 ya don't say 😂😂😂

  • @windwalker8058
    @windwalker8058 3 роки тому +18

    What man would not do what he done after what they did to his family!

  • @funbomb1102
    @funbomb1102 3 роки тому +7

    Interesting listen. I remember watching the movie as a younger man. Great story. Ty ❤️💪🏼

  • @DraganDraws
    @DraganDraws 4 роки тому +8

    Love this. Thank you

  • @frankmousser8691
    @frankmousser8691 3 роки тому +3

    Enjoyed it very much.

  • @9000ftElev
    @9000ftElev 2 роки тому +2

    These podcasts are very well done!!!!! AA+ Do the Alferd Packer (Colorado Cannibal) story PLEASE!!

  • @prophetesssunshinegoddess3598
    @prophetesssunshinegoddess3598 4 роки тому +8

    My Chief!

  • @kennyowens2189
    @kennyowens2189 3 роки тому +26

    Geronimo was a great man everything he did was for the love of his wife and his kids which take it from him

    • @billflanigan8249
      @billflanigan8249 3 роки тому

      Are you nuts geronimo is my enemy he tried to kill my family

    • @RedEdgedSavage
      @RedEdgedSavage 2 роки тому +6

      @@billflanigan8249 . your family must have squatted onto apache country

    • @BridgesDontFly
      @BridgesDontFly 2 роки тому +1

      And the Apache squatted on others land too. So basically everything comes full circle.

    • @batonrougerp7423
      @batonrougerp7423 2 роки тому +3

      @@BridgesDontFly all depends how you perceive it, I mean, they're fucking native Americans, they are 'Native' to those lands which they inhabited. You could manage the best hunting grounds and water sources, but you couldn't technically own the land, which was there long before us and will be there long after we're gone. - it wasn't really Spanish lands, until Spanish conquistadors conquered that region, that it became New Spain (after the fall of the Aztec Empire) - with Mexico City being built over Tenochtitlan, then hundreds of years later, the Mexican Revolution happens, and Mexico gains independence from Spain - so albeit being Spanish/of Spanish descent - they were considered 'Mexicans' - now the reason I say all that is simply because you said that the Apache were 'squatting on others land' when in fact, it (morally) belonged to the indigenous people and their descendants which 1st inhabited that region. - perception.

  • @andrewmckeown6786
    @andrewmckeown6786 3 роки тому +9

    Not enough on his Mysticism. Awesome still

  • @robertthompson1254
    @robertthompson1254 2 роки тому +1

    Excellent

  • @jeramiekerns1753
    @jeramiekerns1753 3 роки тому

    Loved them all but this was my favorite!

  • @valzerna
    @valzerna 4 роки тому +4

    Great!

  • @mikeseale1380
    @mikeseale1380 2 роки тому

    Excellent series

  • @kepeliwa
    @kepeliwa 2 роки тому

    Loved it!

  • @davidcoleman8275
    @davidcoleman8275 3 місяці тому

    "I will fight no more forever." Geronimo.

  • @ribwrt5500
    @ribwrt5500 2 роки тому +1

    My great grandma was captured by apaches in 1881 near Tucson az. She left a lot of letters about her time with them. Some can not be mention here. She says that from 1881to 1892 until her rescue by Mexican ranchers. Most of her time was in old Mexico. She had ten children during her capture. There's no mention of what happened to children. But she passed away 5 years after her freedom. Letters just mention that the half Mexican Apache that kept her was a part time scout for the army. She said that two other apaches guarded her nite and day. She never seen any one but the two older Apache women and her guards.

  • @mikeynedele9884
    @mikeynedele9884 2 роки тому

    Awesome stuff like it

  • @floydvaughn836
    @floydvaughn836 3 роки тому +1

    Can't find any You Tube on Micky Free.

  • @milagri7982
    @milagri7982 3 роки тому +5

    Me da dolor lo malos que son los americanos con los nativos💔

  • @Whitedogoverland
    @Whitedogoverland Рік тому

    I’m curious if the term elope comes from Alope? ie not waiting around for formal marriage?

  • @tomato1040
    @tomato1040 3 роки тому +2

    True Immorality over being remembered is based on Self Voluminous, Luminous, Blissful Consciousness over being a Legend of War. Karma still rules, stating: "For every life taken by a soul that soul must reincarnate for every life taken, then be taken once the taking of no more lives allows one to ascend to a higher life form than merely human, but that like a metamorphosis of a caterpillar to a butterfly, from a Human Being into an a more evolved Self-luminous Angelic Being connected to The Real LOVE=mc2 of the ONE=mc2 TRUE=mc2 Supreme Being.

  • @jimaparks
    @jimaparks 2 роки тому +2

    The successes of General Crook in Arizona are overlooked in this series - though you can’t cover everything. Crook used Apache scouts to find renegade bands of Apaches, and he was successful where others failed. It wasn’t Crook’s fault that Geronimo and others left the reservations. They were bad places to live and overseen by corrupt officials. Crook did his best to improve life on the reservations and had some success. The Apaches said about Crook, “he at least did not lie to us.”
    When Miles took over from Crook, he refused to use Apache scouts and was initially unsuccessful in finding the renegades. Finally, he agreed to use Apache scouts to find Geronimo for his final surrender. Miles sent the scouts to Florida along with the other Apaches. Crook was furious about this when he found out about it, and complained to Washington with no results.
    My daughters attended an elementary school in Tucson named after Miles, and I never much liked that. I thought the school should have been named after Crook!
    I’m really enjoying these podcasts - really well done!

  • @charlesbullghost5491
    @charlesbullghost5491 Рік тому +1

    The spirit of Geronimo many decades after the Indian Wars had ending! On October 5, 1898 a handful of pillanger Ojibwe Indians held off approximately a hundred American soldiers in a hour fierce fighting! The death of six American soldiers an one indian police including frighten soldiers scared of another fierce indian war that might probably happen? On bear island of the leach lake reservation of Northern Minnesota. Later on the same day the American military authorities final agreement of the final surrender of the small hostile band of Ojibwe Indians! Against the timber industry on their reservation lands! Ending the last small unknown war the sugar point uprising of 1898! The American civilians land take over that strated the Buffalo County war! In the third decade of the twenty century. A two summer days of August of 1931 after the brutal hateful torture to death at the Cheney rush massacre, the second sand creek massacre! The definitely still living of sixty to eighty hunkpati Dakota sioux people's traditional encampment in a long valley just below the hilly prairie land country along the beautiful Missouri River half a northwest of the town stephan SD. The poor Dakota sioux people's bodies were burned to ashes in a huge bound fire! then the intruders buried the burned ashes remains north of one two small rolling hills. The hill on the left side. The very next day the American civilians had been surprised so many more warriors were arriving there! Near the Cheney rush massacre site! After hear the sad tragic story of the young children witness the tragedy unfolded there will hiding a safe distance away. A large party of over three hundred hunkpati Dakota and Lakota sioux warriors swiftly over run in a running battle in their own favor! The American civilians intruders in full retreat probably more Americans civilians were killed in the fierce fighting battlefield ÷ the sioux Indian victory! The rest of the defeated American civilians escaped or fled back across the reservation border lands to thier own ranches and towns! Never wanting to take back the hunkpati Dakota sioux peoples traditional reservation Buffalo hunting grounds and our rich fertile farm lands along the beautiful Missouri River. Through Dakota sioux Indian elders oral stories of our true victory song for the Dakota and Lakota sioux warriors of the dust bowl area of the 1930s and last Dakota sioux indian forgotten tragedy of the twenty century! The secret mass grave site the Cheney rush massacre site is still there today. As a remembrance to Geronimo, crazyhorse, chief Joseph of the nez perce and the Lakota sioux indian spiritual war leader sittingbull of the great native tribes of the old west during the 1800's! Have a great fabulous wonderful day.

  • @stevenhall8964
    @stevenhall8964 4 роки тому +7

    His real name was Goyathlay not Goyakla!

    • @sanderson9338
      @sanderson9338 3 роки тому +5

      Technically it was neither Apache doesn't always translate. Their Spanish and English doesn't express the words in Apache. Phonetically your correct.

    • @ailse491
      @ailse491 2 роки тому

      Yep I agree goyathlay

  • @Winteryears
    @Winteryears Рік тому

    A well-scripted series. History with tension.

  • @charlesbullghost5491
    @charlesbullghost5491 2 роки тому

    There's a picture of a sioux Indian medicine man praying with a secret pipe with some people during the ghost dance celebration of 1890. Bullghost was the only hunkpati Dakota sioux indian leader to inspired many Lakota sioux people to the ghost dance uprising of 1890. Which led to the wounded knee massacre dec. 29 1890. The last tragic ending of the ending of the last of the indian wars!

  • @charlesbullghost5491
    @charlesbullghost5491 2 роки тому +1

    Geronimo last chiricahua warriors raiding parties March 17th 1885 the bear Valley raid into Mexico. Killing dozens of people there.

  • @gabrielpadilla4533
    @gabrielpadilla4533 3 роки тому +1

    This guy is from Sonora
    Ha! He says...
    Mounains.

  • @tophyl7558
    @tophyl7558 Рік тому

    There's strong evidence that there are wild Apache still in the Mexican mtns as of the 1990s

  • @emadbagheri
    @emadbagheri 2 роки тому

    No mention of where his skull is now eh?!!

  • @genghiskhan6809
    @genghiskhan6809 3 роки тому +1

    Geronimo riding at the inauguration of Theodore Roosevelt just catapults him even higher in my eyes to the same heights as King Arthur, Liu Bei and Lapu Lapu.

    • @henryrollins4706
      @henryrollins4706 2 роки тому +1

      This great American, resided with in my state of Alabama for 7-years. One of his great warrior sons, is interned within South Alabama. My hero!!

  • @charlesbullghost5491
    @charlesbullghost5491 2 роки тому +1

    The last American soldier was killed by Mexican soldiers. In 1886 when geronimo finally surrendered.

  • @jackdawson4600
    @jackdawson4600 2 роки тому

    Whom is His MOM?

  • @warrior8783
    @warrior8783 Рік тому

    He was baptized as Geronimo and that’s how Mexicans knew him plus he spoke Spanish too .. No one scream to a Saint.

  • @amandasmithson4875
    @amandasmithson4875 9 місяців тому

    Aho all my relations❤ Im a halfbreed Apache

  • @tr4480
    @tr4480 2 роки тому

    Lt. Gatewood should have at least been mentioned in name.

  • @charlesbullghost5491
    @charlesbullghost5491 2 роки тому +2

    Sittingbull's battle sites before the geronimo campaign. The battle of the milk River July 17th 1879 col. Bearcoat miles large military forces with crow Indian scouts attack three hundred hunkpapa Lakota sioux hunting bands near the Montana territory Canadian border. The battle of the pumpkin creek February 7th 1880 a company of us soldiers and crow scouts fought the Lakota sioux war party on pumpkin creek tributary to the tongue River. The battle of the popular river January 2nd,1881 us soldiers crossed the frozen river then opened opened fire on the hunkpapa and Oglala Lakota sioux encampment. The Lakota sioux people escape north to surrounding hills. Over an hour fighting the Lakota sioux people finally surrendered. Eight innocent Lakota people were killed on the battle field. The hunkpapa chief gall looked like a old Roman General when he handed his weapon to the American commander. The us soldiers made the poor Lakota sioux people walk over twenty miles to fort Buford ND were they became prisoners of war! Sittingbull's surrendered at Fort Buford July 20th 1881. Then the geronimo war will start in six years of blood shed in the southwest to the Mexican border. Followed the a decade after the battle of popular river. The ghost dance uprising of 1890 which to the wounded knee massacre December 29th 1890 Bigfoot's minneaconjou Lakota band of three hundred including thirty hunkpapa Lakota sioux warriors. All were killed by custers old regiment the 7th calvery. A very cold sad day to remember.

  • @jonesyrugbychapelhill479
    @jonesyrugbychapelhill479 3 роки тому

    Man!...I hear the term....
    " the Apaches went on a raid"
    ....every 60 seconds in this series.
    ...
    bad idea!

    • @matthewgordonpettipas6773
      @matthewgordonpettipas6773 3 роки тому +1

      So.....you don't like the truth then I take it? Since the Apache did raid a lot and killed innocent people a lot. Sorry if the truth hurts.

  • @matthewgordonpettipas6773
    @matthewgordonpettipas6773 3 роки тому +5

    I feel for Geronimo, I do, but how many Apache warriors took wives and children away from other men and he probably never batted an eyelash?
    Both sides did horribe and tragic things to each other during the wars. It wasn't entirely the White man or the Native Americans who were savage, both were at various times.
    The current PC climate is ruining the teaching of actual history, replacing it with watered/SJW revisionist crap that's one sided, and it's sickening to see people letting it happen.

    • @jameskennedy721
      @jameskennedy721 3 роки тому +3

      The Apaches were at war with the Mexicans when first encountering Americans , but were cordial and trading peacefully at that time . Yet when more Americans arrived over time , the Americans suddenly attacked , killing many unarmed Apaches . This is how the conflict began .

    • @madsketchy9261
      @madsketchy9261 2 роки тому

      Well one group was trying to steal their home so…

    • @sickdan.b.v.p6910
      @sickdan.b.v.p6910 2 роки тому

      I agree they both did horrible things but the whites had no authority over them to come to this land and take away there way of living is not right

    • @jerrywilbur7020
      @jerrywilbur7020 Рік тому

      There's a book called 'The Apache Wars' and is a great read. Well I listened to it actually on cross country drive. Anyway, it's very detailed and every story in this series is in there but much more comprehensive descriptions of the events. Recommend checking it out.

  • @wangoyima2430
    @wangoyima2430 3 роки тому

    "As a typical type family bloodline Geronimo member under Makura Mabaano mostly roaming around in Saskatoon city in searching finding a trustworthy generous family woman to restart resistance movement by moving to Nunuvat fishing industry and farming agriculture fields unfortunately some certain colonial Erupean sabotaging me and sabotaging my personal rights of not able to acquire a woman from my own family bloodline members whom are residing in Saskatoon city Canada country.
    " Gina ya aken ekke" if you are family members of Late Geronimo of the noble Makura Empire around the world countries by past history records.

  • @frankbluestar9469
    @frankbluestar9469 3 роки тому +2

    Goyathlay was found in a hammock as a new born baby adopted by Cochise he was sent here from the Stars when he passed on the pilgrims from Washington wanted to see him dead in a grave when his grave was dug up he was not there only the dead Die Goyathlay is here alive and well Books are not to be believe

    • @matthewgordonpettipas6773
      @matthewgordonpettipas6773 3 роки тому

      Or he was just an ordinary man who was born, did some great (and some horrible), things and then passed away.

  • @ronaldhuss8915
    @ronaldhuss8915 2 роки тому

    Who got tired of what?

  • @mollysimmer5230
    @mollysimmer5230 2 роки тому +1

    The Apache killed women and kids 😂

    • @cnaiche8738
      @cnaiche8738 2 роки тому +2

      Remember what u say. My name is Christian Naiche. Geronimo rode along side my grandfather. Chief Naiche. What this story portrays. Isn’t true. Most of it. We don’t kill children. We took them. But taught them our ways. Kids our valuable to us. We don’t mean harm to nobody. Unless they drew the first bullet.

    • @rodolforudygarcia3513
      @rodolforudygarcia3513 Рік тому

      ​@@cnaiche8738Do you know about Juh, great apache nedni leader. He was called Juh by mexicans and Whoa by americans, and was a leader and Geronimo's friend

    • @markingersoll2671
      @markingersoll2671 3 місяці тому

      ​They killed kids genius, don't lie yourself. @@cnaiche8738

  • @jameskennedy721
    @jameskennedy721 3 роки тому

    Not sure the story about Geronimo capturing General Crook was accurate . Crook was viewed as too sympathetic to Apache views , and transferred away from Arizona .