"that's one of the reasons Natives always fight to the death" that's a very ignorant thing to say dude. It's just not true. Camanche customs are not the same as say Lakota who had their own customs about counting coup.
Please do not buy this fake-Native stuff from whoever this is trying to steal their words and images. There are literally thousands upon thousands of Native Americans today you can buy a shirt from if you want to.
@@jamesweir2943 It would be nice to see the US honor all of the treaties, but then again, giving some of these tribes full sovereignty could be disastrous to the poor on the reservations. They could lose 90% of their benefits.
Great Book. "On the Border with Mackenzie; or, Winning West Texas from the Comanches" (Fred H. and Ella Mae Moore Texas History Reprint Series) Paperback - Illustrated, February 18, 2011
A book called “Indian Depredations in Texas”, from 1880-something is pretty awesome and contains contemporary narratives of folks who were raided by the Comanche. It’s a pretty amazing window into the time period.
@@alexbowman7582 well tbf everyone was racist back then lol. Even commanches, who hated the Mexicans more than Texans. If you were an American settler from the east the good news is you might not die as quickly as a Mexican or Texan, you might even get to marry the chiefs daughter if you make a good enough impression
New Mexico as well. The Puebloen people brought peace talks with Don Diego De Vargas and invited them back to Northern New Mexico (Santa Fe area) to help protect the stationery tribal peoples of what is now NM. Spanish and Puebloens have been living in relative harmony for hundreds of years and interracially married as well. Don’t let Marxist propagandists fool you NM & Southwestern Hispanos we are the American mestizo of the America’s and are part of the very rich culture that is the United States of America!
Actually the Texans feared the Apache more than Comanche. Lipan Apache numbered close to 10,000 warriors but even though they were incredibly warlike they lacked horses and army and Texas militia drove them West to New Mexico and Western Texas. Disease killed many later
@@chrislouden7329 true. Apaches were trained to be warriors Apache fought for their land but removed to south land like Tejas Coahuila and what is now Nuevo León the apache tribus are also in San Luis Potosi..
I'm a 6th generation Texan born in 1960. My Granny told me many hair raising tales about the " Comanch " as she called them. We were taught about the Comanche in Texas History in school. In the words of my Texas settler GG Grandmother " they was mean SOB's". True history does not exaggerate their savagery on raids.
@@darklord220 Well no shit Sherlock they’re all dead. I was giving a little history lesson the Comanche halted expansion for 40 years, no other force did.
@@wahatoya8532 big difference between "we" and the Comanche. If people can't take credit for things just because of their heritage, i.e. like Europeans, then neither can you. It's fine to be proud of that military feat but *you* didn't do jack shit.
I use to live in the Comanche area of Oklahoma. I also dated one. He told me some stories of his ancestors. They were for a long time a very terrifying group!
Yeah they were a brutal tribe, I'm Pima and we're known for our peacefulness, but we never met comanches , too far away, but we did war with Apaches often.
I love the fact that you people, the Pima have no hello or good bye. Just, " Until we meet again. At birth or death until we meet again. Just wonderful.
1 the Comanches were a culture of war. That was their entire ethos. They hunted and they raided 2 no one was safe. It was most Indian tribes (Kiowa and some others were often allies), all whites, Mexicans, etc The Comanches were an extremely brutal people that did nothing but hunt, steal, and kill You’re trying to make it sound like it was transient and intermittent. No. It was what they did. I suggest educating yourself on them.
@@bobdole7292 I suggest you go to a tribal village and learn from the elders there yourself if you want an accurate history. We were all oral historians. Our history was not written by us- so a lot of it is exaggerated or modified to validate or justify the european invasion. It's like the old saying, history is written by the "victor".. except we didn't write anything down we remembered it and told it to our younger generations. This system was compromised when the settlers invaded.
@@JA-ru3il the Comanches keep no records, lol. They’re noteworthy specifically because they never recorded or wrote anything down. So your argument can be turned precisely around to say that even the Comanches wouldn’t know their history, if oral telling is an inadequate method under your view. we do write things down. Newspapers, pamphlets, books. Publications and media started gaining great prominence in the 18th century. We have a great deal of written history over the last few hundred years There were plenty of friendly Indian tribes. It isn’t just Americans. Go ask the Spanish if the Comanches were a jolly bunch or if they were monsters
What's amazing is that they only had horses for a very short amount of time. Horses were introduced in Mexico by the Spanish and they trickled into North America from there. Horses transformed the entire social and economic structures of most plains tribes before White settlers even encountered them. Southern tribes that embraced horses, had a distinc advantage over other tribes. It's hard to imagine Native Americans without thinking of horses as well, but before hunters could rid along side a herd and hit an animal with enough arrows to get a kill, one of the primary ways of hunting buffalo was to cause stampedes and direct them over the sides of cliffs.
I’ll bet not one in ten people know this fact about how the White Europeans vastly improved the lives of the Native Americans. Add in metal tools, needles, weapons and cooking gear, etc. We brought them out of the Stone Age.
@@derekhunter5040 Guess I have to drop down into first gear to explain to one of the 9 out of ten. Of course, I’m talking about my White European ancestors. The same way American Blacks refer to being Slaves and asking for reparations. PS more Africans have arrived in America after end of Slavery than arrived during Slavery. I’m guessing they want reparations also.
@@bobkrohn8053 I actually happen to be one of the less than one percent who is a registered member of a "native American" tribe as you so ignorantly put it (Cherokee nation ftw). I know all about both the hardships and the so-called improvements. I am also not stupid or arrogant enough to claim "we" walked the trail of tears. My ancestors definitely survived that horrid walk though. I've even reenacted it. Still not going to say it like I was there.
That was a great lesson in Comanche history. It goes back a little before my interest in the tribes since I live only an hour away from Adobe Walls. Noted for two historic battles between the Comanches and US Cavalry and buffalo hunters.
@@davidbruce5524 1,538 yards as measured by the army with a wagon mounted pedometer. Billy Dixon said that he was just as surprised as anybody that that shot connected.
Dances with Wolves was originally suppose to feature the Comanches as the main tribe in the story but South Dakota is one of the few places left where enough Buffalo roam to shoot the Bison hunting scene, so they changed they it. And the Lakota Sioux were more widely known at the time. The original book the movie is based on features the Comanches and that is why we see a conquistadors helmet in the film despite no Spanish explorers traveling that far north.
Movie goers have no clue as to where a movie is filmed? Many westerns were actually filmed in Italy. The reason they changed the tribe for the movie, is because it's almost impossible to look upon the Comanche in a romantic and sympathetic light? It's much easier to do that with the Lakota
Great video. Could have mentioned that the Comanches were also major players in regional commerce and that they traded with the same people they raided, sometimes at the same time
I hear you, but there’s a HUGE difference between years of slavery, and YEARS of continued social programming/ operations to castrate, manipulate, and mutilate💯 Huge difference between Prisoners of War and Manipulating Governments/Controlling Regimes.
My wife was from Palo Pinto County Texas. I was fascinated with their pioneer experiences, particularly the Comanche Raids. Torture was indeed part of their tactics. I have read first hand accounts of those terrible times, and seen some of the abandoned homestead cabins from which early pioneers fled. Live and let live was not the Comanche way. I believe the Comanche Wars were the longest series of hostile actions in US History.
THEY TORTURED WHITES BECAUSE THEY WERE SICK OF BEING LIED TO AND HAVING THEIR LAND STOKEN, OH YES WE STILL HAVE THE SAME LIARS IN CHARGE NOW ,TRUMP AND JOHNSON BEING THE MOST PROMINENT
What I found especially harrowing in that description is the grammar, or lack thereof. From the time they are spotted till the end of the chapter is one long sentence with no hard breaks, which I think was stylized choice by McCarthy to reflect the confusion and panic of the victims
That description in blood meridian was actually taken from an eye witness account. Not the fight/murder scenes. But the description of their wardrobe. I stumbled on it after I read blood meridian.
I’m from Oklahoma and Tonkawa was always pronounced taang kaa wuh with very soft “g” sound. Kiowa was always pronounced Kai uh wah. The Kotsotekas ruled what is now Oklahoma west of the Timber Line for over a hundred years. A Comanche monument was someone that trespassed on the Comancheria was caught and made into no trespassing sign by leaving the tortured mutilated corpse in the trail on display.
I’m from Lawton Ok. and a Comanche tribal citizen i am of the Quahadi Band.The Comancheria was vast much of North, Central, and West Texas Eastern New Mexico, southeastern Colorado, western Oklahoma, and southwestern Kansas. We call ourselves Numunuu meaning the people.
Funny, my family lives in Texas in Dallas, and we’ve been here since the 1800’s and when something is really bad or scary, it’s said to be like a Comanche Raid. So we’re still,afraid of them.
Isn't this a no, no, today. Like racist or offensive. It's a great expression to fit any horrific situation... Even many Indians would agree. Just saying...
@@Kat-fq4ei I’m a Native American (Ojibwe/Chippewa) and I believe that calling them Comanche raids isn’t racist, I think it’s more of an ode to the power that the Comanche held at the time
@@amplified1288 Totally agree, but with Marxist cancel culture indoctrination over recent decades , things such as this are interpreted as racism with no concept of of the human psyche of past centuries regardless of ethnicity. People have become civilized, and laws have changed our perception.
When something really bad or scary happens? When a bunch of Californians start to evacuate California and come to Texas you say "oh no here comes the Comanche raid" hahaha
@@thalmoragent9344 they were everyone’s bitches because they were so bad. Then horses came around and they used their anger from being oppressed for so long to absolutely decimate everyone. It’s quite the story
Killing the bison was a deliberate military tactic, not something the settlers did on their own. The idea was to starve the Indians into submission. It was the very same tactic the Union used against the Confederacy just prior during the Civil War, as famously carried out by General Sherman during his march to the sea where left a 60-mile wide path of destruction leaving no crops or livestock alive and no railroads or machinery intact. The architect of that plan against the Confederacy, General Philip Henry Sheridan, was the very same general who commanded the Indian Wars.
True, but that was only part of the whole story. The real slaughter of the buffalo came afterwards when the Hides became an economic product for the buffalo hunters.
The french did the same to the tuaregs, by denying them the acces to water, ocupying the oasis, or poisoning them, if they thougt they could not hold them.......and it worked.
@Liberty is not free Geezus, tell us something we don't know. We can also talk about Bison antiquus, eohippus, dire wolves, the short faced bear, and the cameloids of the North American continent later.
@@coleparker Washington created a fashion fad of wearing buffalo fur. Sherman was a certified bi-polar and psychopath. When he would "go off the rails" it even made newspaper headlines LOL
@@Cissy2cute I don't disagree about the fashion fad. It has it precedents though. The beaver fur trade became a major industry in the early 19th century because the fashion at the time was Beaver fur hats. Later feather decorated hat fashions for women in the latter part of the 19th century and early 20th century nearly led to the extinction of many species.
These are an interesting series of videos - it's just a shame they didn't bother to research how to pronounce the Native American tribes' names as it takes away from the credibility of their other information if they couldn't be bothered to check their pronunciation, then how accurate are the rest of their 'facts'?
@@Thecircustapes lol, Klingons were based on Mongols, but yeah, mongols are the closest thing i can think of when men and horse were used to their most brutal and effective nature.
WHEN I WAS A YOUNG AIRMAN STATIONED AT DYESS AIR FORCE BASE TX. I WAS IN THE DAY ROOM WATCHING A WESTERN. THE DORM GUARD AT THAT TIME WAS A MASTER SARGENT. HE WAS NATIVE AMERICAN. HE TOLD ME SOMETHING I NEVER FORGOT. HE SAID " IF THE WHITE MAN WINS ,IT'S A VICTORY, BUT IF THE INDIANS WIN IT'S A MASSACRE ".
The railway trail over by Caprock Canyon by Turkey does a good job of bringing light to the Comancheros and how they moved around through the badlands. I lived up there for a little bit when I was a kid and oddly enough I loved it.
Teachers (especially in public schools) are provided with a lesson plan. Only what is authorized may be broached. All other knowledge is verboten. To deviate outside the lines draws censure. Indoctrinate, not educate, is the mantra. Who said " Give me the educating of your youth, and i will destroy your country." ... The ACLU prioritized the Criminal System closely by the Education System. Now we see why. ...
I grew up in Oklahoma and our history taught about the so called five civilized tribes but I was more intrigued with the northern plains Indians like the Lakota Sioux and Cheyanne. The Comanche were supposed to be the meanest of all but it’s a toss up to me. Lewis and Clark in 1804 said it’s the Sioux.
Folks!......History is recorded by ...”THE CONQUERORS”.! They record and write it to “...their satisfaction to make themselves look (?) correct (?). If you want to know about what REALLY HAPPENED.... Seek out the elders of the incidents, or survivors of the vanquished. Hear their side of the story. You might just learn the real truth. After all.....look at the present “FINDINGS” that the geographers, historians, and other are now finding. Soon, this country must REWRITE HISTORY!
@Hercule Poirot To Hercule Poirot.....See my comments about the “CONQUERORS”. Research and discover what the “SPANISH CONQUISTADOR” discovered in their conquest of South America.... “intricate medical procedures on patients while the patients were still conscience”! The “good padre’s” that accompanied them wrote and describe these procedures. When they returned back to “the Old Country” (Spain). They were accused of BLASPHEMY and RIDICULE by the “...HOLY ROMAN CHURCH”! They were told to “...convert and save the souls! If not..... then destroy them!”. Research is such a wonderful and comprehensive activity. Too bad it’s a “dying art!”
They really are feared even from us Navajo. We would have many archery battles between the commanche and Navajo skirmish, we dare not take them on ,on horseback pure suicide haha
If you haven’t read Our Hearts Fell To The Ground, I highly recommend it. It’s a grim read but the best researched book you will find out there. This is a book of first hand account and shows witness to acts of unfathomable violence. You are a lovely person to be so kind. I have a degree in United States Studies as I wanted to learn more about original inhabitants of the country called America. I pray your vision is the one which defeats the ongoing situation. The First People deserve so much more. Goodness knows when America will wake up to this terrible situation. I don’t think enough Americans are aware of how remote and challenging life must be in these far flung Reservations around America. In the 21st century, why is this even a question? I have a suspicion that current treatment of First peoples, African Americans and people from South and Central America is a reflection of negative stereotypes which are prevalent in American myth making. When American politicians say they want to Make America Great Again for the American people, the rest of the world slaps its’ collective forehead. I mean? What else can they take? Water rights and access is the next battled ground. 🇬🇧
@@747Antman Indeed our history is complex and rewritten to fit many narratives but not The First People, it's sad that our voices are constantly over heard.
Very informative content however a large gap exists in coverage of untamed Texas wilderness and wildness with the fact that Samuel Colt’s 44 caliber Walker revolver signaled the death note for the Comanche raids and offered security and peace of mind to thousands of settlers and thier families .
Read Empire of the Summer Moon after it was recommended by Joe Rogan. It's good to see many people waking up to the fact that many tribes (especially the comanches) were far more brutal than the bleeding hearts of today would like to admit
People are people and some are bad and they certainly can be brutal. slaughter of babies, rape, take slaves, torture. people around the world have done these things.
@@standingbear998 Yes, but there's a misconception among a minority of very vocal and ignorant activist types who really want to believe that when the white settlers arrived, the white people were evil and the Natives were innocent peace loving people who only defended themselves. It's a misapprehension of history
As a Comanche/Apache/Mestizo myself, the book has been a very eye-opening for me. The vengeance, war, cultural clash, geographics, and whole overall (graphic) history... It's been an emotional rollercoaster. I've learned a lot of wonderful wisdom being a danzante, along with a lot of love and compassion. So all the trauma in the pages can be a little hard to get through. I've always been one to say that one's blood remembers more than oneself. It's a strange feeling when you realize all of our bloodlines have clashed against eachother and themselves.. I'm proud of who I am, however not all parts of our history. It sure does explain some of my internal self-work being tougher to handle some days. I pray that my multitude of ancestors can be proud that I am not their darkness and instead guide me higher. The book does a spectacular job at painting a picture for the reader, along with being informative and full of citations, it's a huge recommendation. A rough yet necessary road for me to tread upon. 🏞
Great video! American history is filled up with breathtaking avents. Involving for example the Comanche's, the Texas rangers, the Apache's and Kit Karson. Hopefully we all remember and learn from this history. Thank you for sharing this video!
@@concretecharlie51 we dont get his point of view seing as he was de-platformed and completely shunned after 4 years of despicable one sided media coverage against him
You should read “Empire of the summer moon” the book goes into great unbiased detail about the Comanches and the whites. It’s an amazing book that really illustrates how terribly cruel and yet amazing the Comanches were.
The comanche point of view is supplied by the books "carbine and lance: the story of old fort Sill" and "Plains Indian raiders", both by Wilbur Sturtevant Nye. He was assigned to Fort Sill Oklahoma and personally met and interviewed many of the actual comanches and kiowas who participated in the wars from the 1860-1870's. It is our best source of first hand knowledge from the comanche side of the story.
I think the Comanches at one time ruled 15 or more other tribes in a loose sort of empire. These other tribes were forced to give tribute as goods , to the Comanches ( as well as slaves, all Indian tribes had plenty of slaves) who were the kings of the southern plains . Other than the fact that we have over romanticized Native American history I’m not sure why this is a shock to the American public that gets most their history from Hollywood directors that all rabidly hate America. The Aztecs that practically bordered the Comanches had scores of Native American tribes that they gleaned slaves and human sacrifices from . You can see this all in their pottery and art work to this day. In fact the way most all Indians gained rank in ( males) the tribe wasn’t through heredity or money but through hunting skills and raiding , murdering other tribesmen as trophies and bringing back goods to their fellow tribes men. Native American tribes were continually at war , it was just a way of life.
Well said. People tend to Americanize their portrayal of Comanche and other tribes. Slavery, torture, even genocide were all present on North America before Columbus. To describe the Comanche other than their nature is ethnocentric, and would likely be an insult to a 19th century Comanche warrior. After all, raiding, killing, slavery and rape was their way of life. To assert differently is a very “white” way of looking at Indian culture.
My great public school edumacation from Malcom Ludacris Rex University taught me that the native Americans were a gentile, peaceful, mystical, spiritual people who were at one with nature. They were completely invaded and wiped out by the uncivilized pale people who coveted their libraries of knowledge, wonderous technologies, medical cure-alls, vast farms and majestic cities.
The correct word would be slaves. It’s almost like saying the hundreds of African slaves carried by the Cherokee and Choctaw on the Trails of Tears were ‘captives’. The Comanche kept slaves, as well as captives intended for barter. Most Native American tribes practiced slavery.
If this interests you. "Empire of the Summer Moon" is a book about Quhana Parker and the rise and fall of the Comanche Indians. One of the best books I've ever read. And definitely the best Indian history books available
Best is suggestive, I’m reading crazy horse the strange man of the Oglala, and it is superb as well and really brings you in the culture as more of a story than narrative
They were great horsemen. They were nomadic with a large swath of uncontested territory which meant they could strike from anywhere. But mostly it was because women and children were often targeted in Comanche raids
The Plains tribes were not really nomadic. They followed the buffalo herds. So basically they stuck to the same path, following the animals that kept them alive.
This proves Genghis's tactic effectiveness even more. Whoever is skilled at horse riding warfare, is like owning an arsenal of tanks against foot soldiers. Horse riding warfare was really the first edition of a Blitzkrieg
Excellent description of Comanche raids. Hostiles starring Rosamind Pike and Christian Bale, do justice to the brutality of those days. Hopefully this video isn’t taken down by UA-cam for its accuracy.
They were the Vikings of the midwest, terrifying everyone. Even the Apaches ran away from them. They were only defeated after CHOLERA wiped out thousands of them, and then came the revolvers and repeating rifles...
Noticed a few commentors are bringing up the lack of comments from over 1 million subscribers to this channel. Breaking news: K after a number represents thousands and M after a number represents millions. I hope this helps. All that being said, the information presented was a good snapshot of history.
I grew up in Hondo,Texas, and my grandparents lived in Quihi, about ten miles to the northwest. A story I heard about the early German and Czech settlers in the area stuck with me. Apparently, the Comanche raids had yet to completely stop when the settlers arrived. One day a woman's older son camre home, bragging about the Indian he had killed. Being an immigrant, whose education and skills centered around the home, she had no idea what an Indian actually was. She had heard the word, undoubtedly, but must have thought it was a new type of game. When her son showed her the Indian's body, lying outside their door, she lost her mind, screaming that her son had killed a man. She never recovered from the shock. Or so the story goes.
Rational, credible story albeit unproven. I only went though once similar experience in that area, But even though the robbery, killing means little to them - They accept and even respect credible contra-threat without vindictivenes (or "hard feelings"). They are mean but they have "fair play" in them-because they are raised by values.👺👀
German and Czech settlers? There´s never been such a thing. The settlers in Texas were Germans who came there in the 1840´s. Half died of disease and starvation. The rest built the state. The city of San Antonio has the complete records.
I know a family that has a Ranch in archer county Texas that has a historic marker about a battle between the comanche and army that took place on the ranch
@@ComancheChad funny you should say that as of this moment I am here of course it's just a preventative strike only but son of bitch they are raiding my wallet for another 60
The Comanche were the "Spartans" of North America. Extraordinary Light Cavalry ! The Texas Rangers were originally formed to seek out and destroy the Comanches; they also helped maintain the border with Mexico .
Our Native American peoples are the true Americans. We are just a bunch of mutts that destroyed a great yet simple culture out of greed. America lost…..
It wasn't north Texas where the raid happened when Cynthia Ann Parker was captured. It was central Texas in limestone county at ft.parker between mexia Tx and groesbeck Tx by the navasota river.The Fort still stand and is a state park.
This was wonderful. The single best book I've read on this topic comes from S.C. Gwynne, book titled Empire of the Summer Moon, highly highly recommended.
Shawnee here, we were all fierce! It was a 400 year war not the slaughter that they teach. Embrace the future for if you blame the past you will find nothing but ghost.
You know your dealing with an idiot when they claim the land was stolen from the Indians, as if they where duped. The Indians where incredibly tough and resilient and 400 years of battle is not a steal.
Why do think the US Army names its battlefield helicopters after Native American tribes. Its a nod of repect to your former adversary's ferocity on the battlefield
Comanches.... "they would rape and torture women and children" wow big respect so brave. Bruh I'm native American and let me just say it's pretty clear they were ass holes.
@@justdoinmything my nez perce friend said much of the same for the Apache. He said when the US army came to round the Apache up for the reservations. The history of the Nez perce people says they didn't want to help the Apache even though they knew they were next. Good riddance he said. Now to fair be I am pretty sure neither the Apache or the Comanche are not the same people today. I'd like to ask, are modern day reservations poor quality places to live ( i have only seen one) or are they decent places to live. Or do you think its a case by case tribe by tribe bases. Do you even live on a reservation or have you even seen them. My nez perce friend did.
@@nordscan9043 - nobody was saying that. Studied three classes about Native American and just like other parts of the world. They been at war with each other. However, The US government and Britain had numerous agreements that they didn’t uphold.
@@jonathanpilcher337 You are definitely talking out of your ass. The native americans absolutely warred and slaughtered other tribes at least as often as "settlers" did. They had been doing those very things for centuries before the first "settlers" even arrived, so almost certainly even more so. The "settlers" were just better at it. Your rose-tinted view of history is laughable. Also, your derogatory use of the word "settler" is pretty ironic, considering how many tribes like the Tonkawa moved away from their "homeland" and "settled" elsewhere because of the threat posed by *other tribes*. Did you even watch the video before you commented? Because the video directly refutes what you said.
@@--_--IMP--_-- you just sound insane, nowhere in the world did anyone do anything near the levels of colonization, nor is settler "derogatory" you absolute snowflake it's the literal appropriate term for the people that settled north america since they settled it duh dur, and settlers were only better in warfare due to better technology(thank the middle east(cradle of civilization) for that)
@6:50min Colonel Ranald S. MacKenzie was as the commander of the 4th US Cavalry regiment the most successful at bringing the elusive tribes to battle. During his tenure as c.o. of the 4th US Cavalry he was 4-0 against the opposition. Comanche Chief Quannah Parker told him "You were the one we were afraid of!"
After the Battle of Palo Duro Canyon in 1874 Col. Randall MacKenzie had his men destroy over 1400 head of captured Comanche and Kiowa ponies.To an Plains Indian this was almost as bad as the death of a 👪 family member!
McKenzie practiced a tactic which holds true throughout the centuries, regardless of foe. McKenzie basically took to the field & stayed there. He was relentless in pursuit. Weather, food supplies,water, time of year was not a concern. Destruction of personal property figured into his strategy. Destroy all means of survival( horses,food,shelter,equipment) of the enemy. Took him a couple years of pursuit, into generally uncharted territory but, he accomplished what no one else had been able to do. Hell, the " white" settlers were just the last group the Natives ran up against. Anyone who thinks defeat of the settlers would have allowed the Native to roam free, has rocks for brains. Any number of explorer groups could have & probably would have subdued them eventually if circumstances had been different( distances, manpower, colonization), groups such as the Russians, Chinese, French. The whole epoch
Nice one. I once saw a video on how the Eskimos road on the backs of Caribou and took control over most of subartic Canada, but im still not totally convinced whether or not this confirms the existence of Santa Claus.
Thanks for sharing. But you left out an important factor in the Comanches' weakening. It was the use of the Colt 44 navy pistol by Texas Rangers. After a famous skirmish where 2 Texas Rangers managed to kill 90 Comanche warriors. It was this incident which launched Samuel Colt as a contractor with the U.S. Army and sealed his future wealth.
If the Comanches had more allies instead of enemies, they may have held on to Texas. And Such scenarios can go for many other tribes as well. Perhaps the biggest weakness of all the natives was their lack of a united front. Had entire regions and tribes been unified for the same cause, Victories would have been common. But rather they kept killing each other and dividing their allegiances. Couldn’t put rivalries and political/social differences aside and unify under one wing to hold onto their way of life.
Similar to the Arab and European invasions of Africa. No over all unity. And the war like natives were so brutal to their counter parts that those counter parts were quick to aid outsiders against their original oppressors. Also Europeans weee quicker to see themselves as a common group. Native Americans and Africans saw their counterparts as “separate peoples”. So they didn’t realize that the onslaught was racially based until it was too late
@@kheindl100 We* got our asses handed to us until we developed and deployed the revolver to even up the firepower. * I have both settler and Comanche blood in my veins. I'm speaking from a settler's perspective here.
@@T4nkcommander and learned their guerilla tactics (texas rangers). i wouldnt compare ruthless attacks on settler families to what occurred in armed battles. comanches took advantage of civil war to savage many innocent women and children until rangers stopped them and usually against odds. idea of comanche power is romanticized..by many whites
My great-grandfather supplied horses for the army in the late 1800s. He had a ranch near Sisterdale, Texas. "Ride the Wind" is a wonderful historical novel about Nacona, Cynthia Ann Parker, and Quanah Parker.
@@Cissy2cute because she didnt belong to the Comanche. They kiddnaped her and killed her family save for her brother. Amazing people look over this fact.
@@brittanyhayes1043 Who is overlooking it? She became Comanche, married to an important warrior. If you live the life of a Comanche as Cynthia did, you are considered one of the tribe. She never accepted white culture and actually starved herself to death because she could not return to the tribe. As a grown woman she should have been left to make her own decisions. The actions you mention were very common amongst Native Americans. Killing or kidnapping were arbitrary decisions made on the spot. While a Comanche woman, she made no efforts to try and escape them. She did, however, try to escape her white "family". After Prairie Flower died, she entirely lost her will to live.
The Seminoles are subject to the laws of the US Government, they must pay taxes to the US Government, they can be drafted by the US Government, and they don't have their own foreign policy. The beat goes on. Not much substance to that sovereignty.
I knew nothing of this "American" history until I watched this video. 'Will have to search for mentioned books at the local library. I want to learn more about native Indian tribes. Thank you for an informative and fascinating video.
Amy, read up on Cynthia Parker, Quanah’s mother. “The Searchers” film was based on this kidnapping. She did not wish to return to the white world when finally found. (Notice the size of her hands in the picture shown in this video, the one where she’s nursing her daughter. They’re enormous, likely from the manual labor.)
My understanding is that they’re redoing “The Searchers” and, of course, doing “Empire of the Summer Moon.” Look up the author’s presentations on YT, S.C. Gwynn. Here’s an intro: www.kirkusreviews.com/book-reviews/sc-gwynne/empire-of-the-summer-moon/.
If you care to read a sample Comanche attack and kidnapping of 2 boys, read the opening of Philipp Meyer’s “The Son.” I found it riveting. AMC put that book to TV with Pierce Brosnan in the lead. The younger version of Pierce (called Eli) was one of the brothers kidnapped, and the young actor who played him (Jacob Lofland) was extraordinary.
The USA does not teach history in its schools. I went to quite a few schools and all my history classes taught the same super basic things. I learned more on UA-cam and google(obviously be careful with getting info on google and UA-cam as well) I did not know about Black Wallstreet until after I graduated. I wonder if our government benefits off of keeping us ignorant and hateful towards one another.
Their was another very fierce tribe of Indians just south of Texas in what is now Northern Mexico....the Chichimeca They were very fierce and war like....they defeated the Spanish and Aztecs could nor conquer them.
It is very refreshing to see a video that depicts history as it was and not how we would have wanted it to be. A good depiction of a rather fierce but totally relentless warrior culture that has little redeeming features as we understand society to be. Things and first immigrants were not all rosy and friendly in the past.
My grandmother, who passed away in the 80s told us stories of the Comanche raids. She lived in a small Northern Mexican town called Parral. She said that when the Comanches rode in everyone fled to the high grounds in the mountains where the horses couldn't pass into. Those that couldn't escape, namely women and children, were raped and massacred. These were extremely viscious people.
@@andrewallen9993 Thanks to Obama and Hillary for turning Libya into a third world country and the new slave trade, But hey the needed liberating, or at least their gold did.
Did you ever attend world history in school? Slavery is in all manner of era and area of this world. The US just did it much bigger in modern times than anybody else. Pick up a book!
My people were masters of the horse and ruled with a iron fist. They gave no quarter and asked for none very few men of today could stand up to these great warriors
Cynthia Ann Parker was captured at Fort Parker, south of Mexia, TX by Caddo Indians who traded her to the Comanche. Her family had moved there from Grapeland, TX, some 12 miles north of Crockett, TX and built the fort. The rest of the family stayed around Grapeland, and Parkers are still in the area.
Cynthia Ann was captured by a Comanche raiding party...her father was killed in the raid. BTW Caddos were mainly a peaceful tribe that hated the Comanche as did most other tribes.
@@brittanyhayes1043 I suggest you read “Charles Goodnight” by J. Evetts Haley or “The Texas Rangers” by Walter Prescott Webb. They are classic older books, not politically correct, that will give you a clear picture of the differences between the tribes. Some were warlike... some were not.
@@philrockett2828 I guarantee there were no tribes that was peaceful. Just like back in Europe before coming to the New World no European was peaceful to eachother because they were fighting for land and power. Native Americans were doing that with there civilizations ike with the Aztecs and Chokia. So no I will not be reading your book recommendation when I know enough about human nature to be true.
A very peaceful, loving and slow to anger people- the Comanche. Fun fact: The Comanche were the original writers of the famously covered song by the youngbloods- “Get Together” “C’mon people now, smile on your brother, everybody get together, try to love one another right now.”✌🏻🕊☮️
And here I thought they were all just peace loving tree hugging cumbia non sense. Imagine if they taught this in school so we can honour respect our country and history as a nation…. Anyways yes they were badass and theirs a whole lot of American history that is also badass and more people should know about.
Commanches come from Idaho/Nevada. They only moved south as white man came to the east coast and the Blackfeet moved into Montana. They were not forced out of their "original homeland" by the Apache. Commanches are related to Shoshone. Commanches and Shoshones speak a similar language.
My family is a combination of Spaniard, Mexican, (Spaniard and Mexican on my dads side) and Comanche (on my mothers side). My mother would tell me stories she heard from her great grandmother and how she is the creation of what a "soft" Comanche can be like, meaning her father was a Mexican-Texan and her mother is a Comanche native. I take my heritage of my family living in Texas for centuries, whether thats my Spanish conquistador ancesters or my Mexican vaquero ancestors or my Tejano empasario ancesters.
@@12floz67 actually quannah Parker never lost a battle and was he most feared Comanche of all time at age fourteen,he only surrendered to gain power from gaining an education and became the richest native American ever,
Many thing forced ON us. 1492 till today. I pray for all that lives on Mother earth and the Kids suffering underneath. Our sacred children. Our sacred water food. Land. Honor to your nation's
I feel like you didn’t explain WHAT made them fierce. It’s interesting to hear that they were a terror to everyone in the plains, but what made them different?
They weren‘t more fierce than any other of the hunter/gatherer tribes in the area where they came from. The harsh living conditions usually led to gruesome confrontations among the tribes competing for limited ressources. Comanche originally were part of the Eastern Shoshone (Utah, Montana, Wyoming) until some of them picked up the ability to farm and ride horses from the Spanish during the mid 1600s. This became the technical advantage compared with other tribes that had not yet cultivated horses. It did not change the character of the confrontations but it made them win more often. Due to this advantage they were also able to hunt bisons in greater numbers than before which also helped growing the number of members of the tribe as they were able to feed more offspring and captured. It also led to smaller tribes reaching out to the Comanche for cooperation and help. So the Apache were driven west or were wiped out. Fun Fact: the Eastern Shoshone once reached out into the Great Plains before they headed south but were pushed back by Blackfoot and Sioux who also cultivated horses and used a tool their Shoshone rivals did not have access to at the time: firearms.
They were by all standards the greatest light calvery the world had seen. Their skill with a bow and arrow on horseback was unmatched and once they became proficient with revolvers and rifles they were unstoppable. Combine all that with the way they treated their enemy in battle and after its no wonder the Comanche were feared by Indians and settlers.
If they were unstoppable????? What happened. Oh, gosh maybe, just maybe they were finally "put in there proper place" by the WHITE MAN. They were ultimately Murdered , like the MILLIONS of other Native Americans just so you, ME and anybody else could have a home here. Have a nice day. PS: You as well as me are walking on sacred ground here my friend.
@@lukemix6463 maybe in Texas but they new better than to come over the sandie mountains where they would’ve gotten wipe out by the Pueblo’s, Apache, Navajos!!!!
Judging from the comments, America can't process that you can condemn colonialism/Manifest Destiny and acknowledge the natives weren't fairy tale tree huggers.
Comanche, Apache, Sioux - these were names from mythology for a kid growing up in Ireland. What a thrill to travel the states and learn it was all quite recent history. And then to even live with the Navajo for a while. In Ireland, Crazy Horse stands shoulder to shoulder with heroes like Cuchulain. The Comanche were invincible. Best mounted light infantry since the Mongols. It was cholera that got them in the end. One U.S. officer compared fighting the Comanche to trying to fight a swarm of angry wasps.
My great grandmother was born while natives were still fairly active in the West (1880s). She lived until 1978 and I remember her asking me about how 1st grade was going. The past is closer than we think.
I was always told my grandmother and grandpa were half Comanche and my great grandfather on grandmas side was full Comanche and his wife was from Mexico , and great grand parents on grandpa’s side were one was Apache and one was Comanche... I would guess the Comanche had took captive the Apache ... but I had the dna test and I do have lots of Native American history just lots of it isn’t able too be pin pointed ... i know my grand mother came to Iowa in a covered wagon from a Indian reservation in South Dakota some where and she married my grand father a brick red headed Irishman / Comanche... came from Texas up through the southern Midwest and ended up in Iowa he fought in world war 1 and was lost to cancer in 1945 ... I guess it was some kinda weed killer they over sprayed on everyone ... but he was dark skinned but brick red hair so he had lil trouble working as a white man and grandma always claimed to the neighbors that she was from gypsy decent the black hair , but there was no dispute that she was Native American in her older years ... she looked her heritage then but her stories got them thru the hatred of the time . I wish I knew more but all the family is gone all aunts uncles my parents I have grandma’s family bible which she kept track of who her parents Christian names were not their Native American names nor any tribal info ... is their places I might search for my great grand parents Comanche heritage? Any help would be great !
Wow, I was born and raised in West Texas and also became aware that my ancestry was made of Chiricahua Apache and Comanche. The stories passed on by my grandparents sound similar to yours. I am also part Spanish, so that's one hell of a mix, but makes it very interesting when my kids ask. My grandparents would tell stories of travel to and from Nebraska in wagons too, but as a kid, that never interested me, until I found out my ancestry. Now I learn as much as I can about my rich and diverse ancestry so I can pass on that knowledge to my kids and hopefully their kids as well. I am so very proud to have blood from these two tribes in my veins.
@@johnlaws9853 Sir I didn’t not claim anything I’m only going on family stories ... I’m tan/white no mistake im very white. Wife and I did a ancestry swab and my wife we knew was Eastern European blonde blue eyes me I came back a miss match ... nobody’s claimed anything I was just looking into finding where my Native American genes came from ... don’t worry and flip your wigwam... no plans too sell my house in the burbs my truck or Harley and move into a tee pee on the reservation.
@@johnlaws9853 nah was just pointing out I wasn’t looking too cash in on a casino check . I am truly trying too find out where my Native American genes came from so I can pass it along to my children.
The Iroquois where also pretty bad ass. They virtually exterminated their traditional tribal enemies the Algonquins and the Hurons and they helped the Canadians defeat the invading armies from the USA in the war of 1812 thus preventing Canada becoming part of the USA.
Great Book. "On the Border with Mackenzie; or, Winning West Texas from the Comanches" (Fred H. and Ella Mae Moore Texas History Reprint Series) Paperback - Illustrated, February 18, 2011
@@michaelfitzgerald434 Puts the Reader right back in that time. Many hardships. Makes one really appreciate the comforts of this time. Would be great to ship millions back to that time. I bet many would come back with a deeper appreciation of how good they have it now in this country.
The Crows (Arikara) said the Lakotas were monsters. It is why the Crows quickly made peace with, and joined up with, the military. They hated the Lakota and were more then happy to join anyone who fought them. Crows made great scouts and interpreters. It is the reason that even up to today they have a large reservation and it was always seen that they received proper food as they were allies with the whites early on.
@@Cissy2cute... I suppose it's proper to remember what archaeologists have learned. Before Europeans came there were plenty of wars between tribes. Earlier inhabitants were replaced (meaning wiped out) by later invaders. When Europeans arrived, no land anywhere was occupied by the tribe that first settled it. I'm sure there were terrible tribal wars. There was no written history, so it is mostly lost.
@@tomasmccauley569 I was thinking along those same lines. And no doubt many of them were as ferocious as these Native tribes. It was the way of their world. My ancestors came from the far north in very hospitable climates. And those were very gut-wrenching battles they fought. It is hard to imagine walking over ground that was totally soaked in blood. You put all white settlers into one basket. Not all of them treated Natives at all in a negative way. Often mutual trading provided advantages to both sides. And so many small families trying to pull a meager existence out of unyielding soil suffered horribly just trying to survive. It is a sad story yet there are two sides to every coin.
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"that's one of the reasons Natives always fight to the death" that's a very ignorant thing to say dude. It's just not true. Camanche customs are not the same as say Lakota who had their own customs about counting coup.
Please do not buy this fake-Native stuff from whoever this is trying to steal their words and images. There are literally thousands upon thousands of Native Americans today you can buy a shirt from if you want to.
How pathetic. Native Americans panhandling for change on the internet. Where's your culture now?
if I am not mistaken, the US Supreme Court recently ruled that a large portion of Oklahoma land is native american land. that should be interesting.
@@jamesweir2943 It would be nice to see the US honor all of the treaties, but then again, giving some of these tribes full sovereignty could be disastrous to the poor on the reservations. They could lose 90% of their benefits.
Read Empire of the Summer Moon by S.C Gwynne.. it's about the rise and fall of the Comanches and Quanah Parker it's an awesome read
Does Joe Rogan tell you when you can take a shit too?
An awesome book!
Great Book. "On the Border with Mackenzie; or, Winning West Texas from the Comanches" (Fred H. and Ella Mae Moore Texas History Reprint Series) Paperback - Illustrated, February 18, 2011
@@troopershollar9381 It's a great book. Who's Joe Rogan?
Excellent work!
The Comanche reminds of the Mongols. Both were fierce warriors and adept on horseback which gave them a clear advantage on the plains and stepps.
Maybe they are same blood
And the stronger warrior Jurchens kick mongols during 16th century.
@@detroitfunk313 Nah. The European's advantage was industry, technology and civics.
@@detroitfunk313 you kidding right? Even Chinese defeated the Huns and the remaining Huns fled to the west and destroyed whole europe Imao
@@perryjones8997 they weren't an insignificant tribe. Your little comment is though.
A book called “Indian Depredations in Texas”, from 1880-something is pretty awesome and contains contemporary narratives of folks who were raided by the Comanche.
It’s a pretty amazing window into the time period.
I'll have to check that out. Empire of the Summer Moon, is the best Indian history book, by far, that I read
Written by J.W. Wilbarger. Excellent book. Readable on the Internet Archive, as far as I remember.
Also read “Empire of the Summer Moon “. Great history of west Texas and Comanche relations.
Why are you saying they raided their own land. Silly Europeans
Native San Antonio here. I run by those missions. It’s truly humbling to know the history and being in the same spot. ❤️
Hello fellow San Antonio native, same here
NATIVE means "GOD" above all others, correct ?
@@bz3086 no. Native means you were born in a place. Nothing more, nothing less.
@@Lfemme528hz literally every inch of ground on earth has history.
@@derekhunter5040 well it also means free college and cheap smokes.
The Comanches were a big reason the Spanish invited Americans to settle in Texas. They wanted them as a buffer to the raids into Mexico.
Comancheros. It wouldn’t be long before the Mexicans would realise that American racism was as bad as Comanche raids.
@@alexbowman7582 Texas is still ours, no matter what you think
Tejas es de Mexico
Good point. But even after Texan independence the raids on the wealthy Mexican ranches continued for a generation.
@@alexbowman7582 well tbf everyone was racist back then lol. Even commanches, who hated the Mexicans more than Texans. If you were an American settler from the east the good news is you might not die as quickly as a Mexican or Texan, you might even get to marry the chiefs daughter if you make a good enough impression
The Comanche were such a large part of Texas history that most people never really get into.
New Mexico as well. The Puebloen people brought peace talks with Don Diego De Vargas and invited them back to Northern New Mexico (Santa Fe area) to help protect the stationery tribal peoples of what is now NM. Spanish and Puebloens have been living in relative harmony for hundreds of years and interracially married as well. Don’t let Marxist propagandists fool you NM & Southwestern Hispanos we are the American mestizo of the America’s and are part of the very rich culture that is the United States of America!
Typical Anglo white settler colonizer talking down to “uneducated” natives. You gonna give a blanket too?
Karankwan Indians too.
Actually the Texans feared the Apache more than Comanche. Lipan Apache numbered close to 10,000 warriors but even though they were incredibly warlike they lacked horses and army and Texas militia drove them West to New Mexico and Western Texas. Disease killed many later
@@chrislouden7329 true. Apaches were trained to be warriors Apache fought for their land but removed to south land like Tejas Coahuila and what is now Nuevo León the apache tribus are also in San Luis Potosi..
I'm a 6th generation Texan born in 1960. My Granny told me many hair raising tales about the " Comanch " as she called them. We were taught about the Comanche in Texas History in school. In the words of my Texas settler GG Grandmother " they was mean SOB's". True history does not exaggerate their savagery on raids.
Did you granny also tell you Comanche , we called ourselves Numunu -meaning the people. Comanches Halted expansion for 40 years. No other force did.
@@wahatoya8532 *you* didn't do any of that and neither did the Texan. Everyone who resisted or fought is long dead.
@@darklord220
I didn’t say I did. If you read it again I said we call ourselves Numunu
@@darklord220
Well no shit Sherlock they’re all dead. I was giving a little history lesson the Comanche halted expansion for 40 years, no other force did.
@@wahatoya8532 big difference between "we" and the Comanche. If people can't take credit for things just because of their heritage, i.e. like Europeans, then neither can you. It's fine to be proud of that military feat but *you* didn't do jack shit.
I use to live in the Comanche area of Oklahoma. I also dated one. He told me some stories of his ancestors. They were for a long time a very terrifying group!
Not me. I wouldnt date them. My boyfriends Irish and english.....he respects women
Yeah I live in oklahoma one of my best friends is native and he doesn’t have much good to say about the Comanches
@@daniellekreviazuk that seemed rascist..
Terrifying or terrorist group?
@@Lulu-vi4wb Well there wasn’t really politics back then so they weren’t really a terrorist group.
Yeah they were a brutal tribe, I'm Pima and we're known for our peacefulness, but we never met comanches , too far away, but we did war with Apaches often.
Given how brutal the Comanche were, the Pima can count themselves fortunate.
The name Comanche was Spanish for this organization of Indians indeed they can from all over
Papagos were not to be messed with
Ira Hayes.
I love the fact that you people, the Pima have no hello or good bye. Just, " Until we meet again. At birth or death until we meet again. Just wonderful.
The brutality of Comanche raids were terrifying, but were also quite common during times of war with the Shawnee and other Northeastern tribes.
In that culture, it was survival of the toughest.
1 the Comanches were a culture of war. That was their entire ethos. They hunted and they raided
2 no one was safe. It was most Indian tribes (Kiowa and some others were often allies), all whites, Mexicans, etc
The Comanches were an extremely brutal people that did nothing but hunt, steal, and kill
You’re trying to make it sound like it was transient and intermittent. No. It was what they did.
I suggest educating yourself on them.
And you're going to not see the Brutality of the WHITE people WHO took THEIR Land
@@bobdole7292 I suggest you go to a tribal village and learn from the elders there yourself if you want an accurate history. We were all oral historians. Our history was not written by us- so a lot of it is exaggerated or modified to validate or justify the european invasion. It's like the old saying, history is written by the "victor".. except we didn't write anything down we remembered it and told it to our younger generations. This system was compromised when the settlers invaded.
@@JA-ru3il the Comanches keep no records, lol. They’re noteworthy specifically because they never recorded or wrote anything down. So your argument can be turned precisely around to say that even the Comanches wouldn’t know their history, if oral telling is an inadequate method under your view.
we do write things down. Newspapers, pamphlets, books. Publications and media started gaining great prominence in the 18th century. We have a great deal of written history over the last few hundred years
There were plenty of friendly Indian tribes. It isn’t just Americans. Go ask the Spanish if the Comanches were a jolly bunch or if they were monsters
Killers of the flower moon is coming out this year. 2021. It is also a great book. Thank all for sharing
What's amazing is that they only had horses for a very short amount of time. Horses were introduced in Mexico by the Spanish and they trickled into North America from there. Horses transformed the entire social and economic structures of most plains tribes before White settlers even encountered them. Southern tribes that embraced horses, had a distinc advantage over other tribes. It's hard to imagine Native Americans without thinking of horses as well, but before hunters could rid along side a herd and hit an animal with enough arrows to get a kill, one of the primary ways of hunting buffalo was to cause stampedes and direct them over the sides of cliffs.
I’ll bet not one in ten people know this fact about how the White Europeans vastly improved the lives of the Native Americans. Add in metal tools, needles, weapons and cooking gear, etc. We brought them out of the Stone Age.
@@bobkrohn8053 "we" huh? You were there? You introduced these concepts personally? You must be so proud of yourself.
@@derekhunter5040
Guess I have to drop down into first gear to explain to one of the 9 out of ten.
Of course, I’m talking about my White European ancestors. The same way American Blacks refer to being Slaves and asking for reparations.
PS more Africans have arrived in America after end of Slavery than arrived during Slavery. I’m guessing they want reparations also.
@@bobkrohn8053 It's so cute when they try to get all condescending.
@@bobkrohn8053 I actually happen to be one of the less than one percent who is a registered member of a "native American" tribe as you so ignorantly put it (Cherokee nation ftw). I know all about both the hardships and the so-called improvements. I am also not stupid or arrogant enough to claim "we" walked the trail of tears. My ancestors definitely survived that horrid walk though. I've even reenacted it. Still not going to say it like I was there.
That was a great lesson in Comanche history. It goes back a little before my interest in the tribes since I live only an hour away from Adobe Walls. Noted for two historic battles between the Comanches and US Cavalry and buffalo hunters.
Battle of Adobe Wall - the most famous long distance shot of the Indian Wars
@@davidbruce5524 Every Texan should know about Adobe Walls.
@@davidbruce5524
1,538 yards as measured by the army with a wagon mounted pedometer.
Billy Dixon said that he was just as surprised as anybody that that shot connected.
This is why they called them savages
@@phyllisduncan1408 European savagery killed million of people
Dances with Wolves was originally suppose to feature the Comanches as the main tribe in the story but South Dakota is one of the few places left where enough Buffalo roam to shoot the Bison hunting scene, so they changed they it. And the Lakota Sioux were more widely known at the time.
The original book the movie is based on features the Comanches and that is why we see a conquistadors helmet in the film despite no Spanish explorers traveling that far north.
Movie goers have no clue as to where a movie is filmed? Many westerns were actually filmed in Italy. The reason they changed the tribe for the movie, is because it's almost impossible to look upon the Comanche in a romantic and sympathetic light? It's much easier to do that with the Lakota
Well researched content and delivery was awesome. Sure hope you have more episodes. Thank you
Great video. Could have mentioned that the Comanches were also major players in regional commerce and that they traded with the same people they raided, sometimes at the same time
They stole cattle from ranchers in Texas which they sold to comancheros in Mexico who then sold the cattle back to Texas lol
I’m not PC. Whenever you hear the word “captive” think slaves. Yes, EVERY culture had slaves.
Comanches, not being settled, didn’t have need for slave labor the same way Agricultural societies did.
Wow, you’re so cool and straight up.
I hear you, but there’s a HUGE difference between years of slavery, and YEARS of continued social programming/ operations to castrate, manipulate, and mutilate💯 Huge difference between Prisoners of War and Manipulating Governments/Controlling Regimes.
@@ben8147 no they just used them for their own fun torturing and raping
@@Ant_Man211 It's a different type of ball game.
My wife was from Palo Pinto County Texas. I was fascinated with their pioneer experiences, particularly the Comanche Raids. Torture was indeed part of their tactics. I have read first hand accounts of those terrible times, and seen some of the abandoned homestead cabins from which early pioneers fled. Live and let live was not the Comanche way. I believe the Comanche Wars were the longest series of hostile actions in US History.
THEY TORTURED WHITES BECAUSE THEY WERE SICK OF BEING LIED TO AND HAVING THEIR LAND STOKEN, OH YES WE STILL HAVE THE SAME LIARS IN CHARGE NOW ,TRUMP AND JOHNSON BEING THE MOST PROMINENT
@@petermizon4344 that’s the dumbest comment I’ve ever read you must have an iQ of 50
@@petermizon4344 How can nomads have "their land"???
@@petermizon4344 you have the iq of a bowl of soup
Not "settlers" but #invaders 😠 Glad to know we been kicking the #scaredwhiteboys #ass forever . 😅 #nativeamericans ?
The Comanche attack at the beginning of Blood Meridien is one of the most impressive battle descriptions in all literature
What I found especially harrowing in that description is the grammar, or lack thereof. From the time they are spotted till the end of the chapter is one long sentence with no hard breaks, which I think was stylized choice by McCarthy to reflect the confusion and panic of the victims
Cormac McCarthy is just a bad ass writer. My favorite.
@@greatplainsman3662 yes, glorious!
Yes. Incredible. At the first lecture I was shocked. At the second too. Horrific violence and everything happens so quickly...
That description in blood meridian was actually taken from an eye witness account. Not the fight/murder scenes. But the description of their wardrobe. I stumbled on it after I read blood meridian.
I’m from Oklahoma and Tonkawa was always pronounced taang kaa wuh with very soft “g” sound. Kiowa was always pronounced Kai uh wah. The Kotsotekas ruled what is now Oklahoma west of the Timber Line for over a hundred years. A Comanche monument was someone that trespassed on the Comancheria was caught and made into no trespassing sign by leaving the tortured mutilated corpse in the trail on display.
This is correct- Mescalero Apache/Menominee man verifies pronunciations
I’m from Lawton Ok. and a Comanche tribal citizen i am of the Quahadi Band.The Comancheria was vast much of North, Central, and West Texas Eastern New Mexico, southeastern Colorado, western Oklahoma, and southwestern Kansas. We call ourselves Numunuu meaning the people.
After watching this I feel that now I’m more Native American than Elizabeth Warren
😂
Warren comes from the Flathead tribe.
Squaw crooked tongue
@@northernpunx1978 😳you sound angry and deranged. Calm down Francis 🤣🤣🤣😂
@@northernpunx1978 tough guy
Funny, my family lives in Texas in Dallas, and we’ve been here since the 1800’s and when something is really bad or scary, it’s said to be like a Comanche Raid. So we’re still,afraid of them.
Isn't this a no, no, today. Like racist or offensive. It's a great expression to fit any horrific situation... Even many Indians would agree. Just saying...
@@Kat-fq4ei I’m sure you can find a statue to tear down
@@Kat-fq4ei I’m a Native American (Ojibwe/Chippewa) and I believe that calling them Comanche raids isn’t racist, I think it’s more of an ode to the power that the Comanche held at the time
@@amplified1288 Totally agree, but with Marxist cancel culture indoctrination over recent decades , things such as this are interpreted as racism with no concept of of the human psyche of past centuries regardless of ethnicity. People have become civilized, and laws have changed our perception.
When something really bad or scary happens? When a bunch of Californians start to evacuate California and come to Texas you say "oh no here comes the Comanche raid" hahaha
Fascinating, It would be interesting to know their attacking capabilities prior to the introduction of horses.
It was dog shit, read empire of the summer moon
@@edgarcia1536
Couldn't have been that bad, if they were so adept on horseback over most of the others at that time.
@@thalmoragent9344 they were everyone’s bitches because they were so bad. Then horses came around and they used their anger from being oppressed for so long to absolutely decimate everyone. It’s quite the story
@@edgarcia1536
So they mastered the horse when they couldn't master anything else compared to the others? Talk about rising to the top 😅
Probably they were pussies
Man this would go hard as a vikings type tv show
Question - What's the fastest way to sober a man up?
Answer - Five hundred howling Comanche's is the fastest way I know.
Rio D .....john wayne cowboy western quote
No that would be Leaks, Leaks have acids and chemicals that help stop hangovers.
El Dorado
Ramming your car into a family killing them all, and realizing you either gotta run or face the music
God dammit.
Killing the bison was a deliberate military tactic, not something the settlers did on their own. The idea was to starve the Indians into submission. It was the very same tactic the Union used against the Confederacy just prior during the Civil War, as famously carried out by General Sherman during his march to the sea where left a 60-mile wide path of destruction leaving no crops or livestock alive and no railroads or machinery intact. The architect of that plan against the Confederacy, General Philip Henry Sheridan, was the very same general who commanded the Indian Wars.
True, but that was only part of the whole story. The real slaughter of the buffalo came afterwards when the Hides became an economic product for the buffalo hunters.
The french did the same to the tuaregs, by denying them the acces to water, ocupying the oasis, or poisoning them, if they thougt they could not hold them.......and it worked.
@Liberty is not free Geezus, tell us something we don't know. We can also talk about Bison antiquus, eohippus, dire wolves, the short faced bear, and the cameloids of the North American continent later.
@@coleparker Washington created a fashion fad of wearing buffalo fur. Sherman was a certified bi-polar and psychopath. When he would "go off the rails" it even made newspaper headlines LOL
@@Cissy2cute I don't disagree about the fashion fad. It has it precedents though. The beaver fur trade became a major industry in the early 19th century because the fashion at the time was Beaver fur hats. Later feather decorated hat fashions for women in the latter part of the 19th century and early 20th century nearly led to the extinction of many species.
👍👍 great video. Appreciate the fact that you didn't gloss over the rough parts.
These were great and fierce warriors.
There were demons,bro...would YOU call someone who kidnapped and raped your mom or sister or wife a "great warrior"...???
I'm amazed that The Comanche helicopter didn't turn things around for them.
These are an interesting series of videos - it's just a shame they didn't bother to research how to pronounce the Native American tribes' names as it takes away from the credibility of their other information if they couldn't be bothered to check their pronunciation, then how accurate are the rest of their 'facts'?
They were the Klingons of the old west!
Klingons.......uuuf....certain death for most if not all, is guaranteed when facing those guys🤦🏽♂️
More like mongols
Worse than Klingons
Kaplah
@@Thecircustapes lol, Klingons were based on Mongols, but yeah, mongols are the closest thing i can think of when men and horse were used to their most brutal and effective nature.
WHEN I WAS A YOUNG AIRMAN STATIONED AT DYESS AIR FORCE BASE TX. I WAS IN THE DAY ROOM WATCHING A WESTERN. THE DORM GUARD AT THAT TIME WAS A MASTER SARGENT. HE WAS NATIVE AMERICAN. HE TOLD ME SOMETHING I NEVER FORGOT. HE SAID " IF THE WHITE MAN WINS ,IT'S A VICTORY, BUT IF THE INDIANS WIN IT'S A MASSACRE ".
And the Indians had exactly the same POV - just in reverse.
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To the Victor's go the history
@@PoundItNailIt GUESS IT DEPENDS ON WHAT SIDE OF THE TIPIY YOUR ON. HEY THAT'S JUST ME.
winners tell the tales. Had the indians won, they'd be telling legendary tales of their warriors about the battle.
@@Maza675 people still do tell tales of their warriors in battle.
I am from West Texas in the Panhandle region. These are the things we studied all throughout school. This was well put together.
there is a small town in West Texas called Quanah TX....surely named after Quanah Parker...
Greetings from Round Rock
The railway trail over by Caprock Canyon by Turkey does a good job of bringing light to the Comancheros and how they moved around through the badlands. I lived up there for a little bit when I was a kid and oddly enough I loved it.
They conveniently left out most of the history of what happened with the Comanches in most public schools. You were part of a fortunate minority.
Imagine the sinking feeling as you realize there is a Comanche raiding party hauling ass directly at your village. Yikes!
Goodbye to your wife kids and your balls
Depends on what you armed with and can shoot👍
I wish my history teacher taught just a little bit of this, to spark my imagination.
Teachers (especially in public schools) are provided with a lesson plan. Only what is authorized may be broached. All other knowledge is verboten. To deviate outside the lines draws censure. Indoctrinate, not educate, is the mantra.
Who said " Give me the educating of your youth, and i will destroy your country." ...
The ACLU prioritized the Criminal System closely by the Education System.
Now we see why. ...
I grew up in Oklahoma and our history taught about the so called five civilized tribes but I was more intrigued with the northern plains Indians like the Lakota Sioux and Cheyanne. The Comanche were supposed to be the meanest of all but it’s a toss up to me. Lewis and Clark in 1804 said it’s the Sioux.
Teachers can be fired if they don't stick with the "approved" plan.
Folks!......History is recorded by ...”THE CONQUERORS”.! They record and write it to “...their satisfaction to make themselves look (?) correct (?). If you want to know about what REALLY HAPPENED.... Seek out the elders of the incidents, or survivors of the vanquished. Hear their side of the story. You might just learn the real truth. After all.....look at the present “FINDINGS” that the geographers, historians, and other are now finding. Soon, this country must REWRITE HISTORY!
@Hercule Poirot To Hercule Poirot.....See my comments about the “CONQUERORS”. Research and discover what the “SPANISH CONQUISTADOR” discovered in their conquest of South America.... “intricate medical procedures on patients while the patients were still conscience”! The “good padre’s” that accompanied them wrote and describe these procedures. When they returned back to “the Old Country” (Spain). They were accused of BLASPHEMY and RIDICULE by the “...HOLY ROMAN CHURCH”! They were told to “...convert and save the souls! If not..... then destroy them!”. Research is such a wonderful and comprehensive activity. Too bad it’s a “dying art!”
They really are feared even from us Navajo. We would have many archery battles between the commanche and Navajo skirmish, we dare not take them on ,on horseback pure suicide haha
Thank you for that bit of history
I believe it was Theodore Roosevelt who declared the Comanche to be 'the finest light cavalry in the world'.
im sorry my ancestors fought your ancestors
If you haven’t read Our Hearts Fell To The Ground, I highly recommend it. It’s a grim read but the best researched book you will find out there. This is a book of first hand account and shows witness to acts of unfathomable violence. You are a lovely person to be so kind. I have a degree in United States Studies as I wanted to learn more about original inhabitants of the country called America. I pray your vision is the one which defeats the ongoing situation. The First People deserve so much more. Goodness knows when America will wake up to this terrible situation. I don’t think enough Americans are aware of how remote and challenging life must be in these far flung Reservations around America. In the 21st century, why is this even a question? I have a suspicion that current treatment of First peoples, African Americans and people from South and Central America is a reflection of negative stereotypes which are prevalent in American myth making. When American politicians say they want to Make America Great Again for the American people, the rest of the world slaps its’ collective forehead. I mean? What else can they take? Water rights and access is the next battled ground. 🇬🇧
@@747Antman Indeed our history is complex and rewritten to fit many narratives but not The First People, it's sad that our voices are constantly over heard.
Very informative content however a large gap exists in coverage of untamed Texas wilderness and wildness with the fact that Samuel Colt’s 44 caliber Walker revolver signaled the death note for the Comanche raids and offered security and peace of mind to thousands of settlers and thier families .
You are spot on. Peace through strength began long before Reagan
Peace of mind to thousands who didnt know how to fight them..
Read Empire of the Summer Moon after it was recommended by Joe Rogan. It's good to see many people waking up to the fact that many tribes (especially the comanches) were far more brutal than the bleeding hearts of today would like to admit
People are people and some are bad and they certainly can be brutal. slaughter of babies, rape, take slaves, torture. people around the world have done these things.
@@standingbear998 Yes, but there's a misconception among a minority of very vocal and ignorant activist types who really want to believe that when the white settlers arrived, the white people were evil and the Natives were innocent peace loving people who only defended themselves. It's a misapprehension of history
@@huejass3 I agree.
Sounds like the term 'Savages' was well deserved
As a Comanche/Apache/Mestizo myself, the book has been a very eye-opening for me. The vengeance, war, cultural clash, geographics, and whole overall (graphic) history... It's been an emotional rollercoaster. I've learned a lot of wonderful wisdom being a danzante, along with a lot of love and compassion. So all the trauma in the pages can be a little hard to get through. I've always been one to say that one's blood remembers more than oneself. It's a strange feeling when you realize all of our bloodlines have clashed against eachother and themselves.. I'm proud of who I am, however not all parts of our history. It sure does explain some of my internal self-work being tougher to handle some days. I pray that my multitude of ancestors can be proud that I am not their darkness and instead guide me higher.
The book does a spectacular job at painting a picture for the reader, along with being informative and full of citations, it's a huge recommendation. A rough yet necessary road for me to tread upon. 🏞
Great video! American history is filled up with breathtaking avents. Involving for example the Comanche's, the Texas rangers, the Apache's and Kit Karson.
Hopefully we all remember and learn from this history. Thank you for sharing this video!
I'd like to see the Comanches point of view.
@@roscopico we still get Trump's point of view and he lost :)
@@concretecharlie51 we dont get his point of view seing as he was de-platformed and completely shunned after 4 years of despicable one sided media coverage against him
You should read “Empire of the summer moon” the book goes into great unbiased detail about the Comanches and the whites. It’s an amazing book that really illustrates how terribly cruel and yet amazing the Comanches were.
The comanche point of view is supplied by the books "carbine and lance: the story of old fort Sill" and "Plains Indian raiders", both by Wilbur Sturtevant Nye.
He was assigned to Fort Sill Oklahoma and personally met and interviewed many of the actual comanches and kiowas who participated in the wars from the 1860-1870's. It is our best source of first hand knowledge from the comanche side of the story.
@Anon They will conveniently ignore your reply cause it’s a FACT.
I think the Comanches at one time ruled 15 or more other tribes in a loose sort of empire. These other tribes were forced to give tribute as goods , to the Comanches ( as well as slaves, all Indian tribes had plenty of slaves) who were the kings of the southern plains . Other than the fact that we have over romanticized Native American history I’m not sure why this is a shock to the American public that gets most their history from Hollywood directors that all rabidly hate America. The Aztecs that practically bordered the Comanches had scores of Native American tribes that they gleaned slaves and human sacrifices from . You can see this all in their pottery and art work to this day. In fact the way most all Indians gained rank in ( males) the tribe wasn’t through heredity or money but through hunting skills and raiding , murdering other tribesmen as trophies and bringing back goods to their fellow tribes men. Native American tribes were continually at war , it was just a way of life.
Well said. People tend to Americanize their portrayal of Comanche and other tribes. Slavery, torture, even genocide were all present on North America before Columbus. To describe the Comanche other than their nature is ethnocentric, and would likely be an insult to a 19th century Comanche warrior. After all, raiding, killing, slavery and rape was their way of life. To assert differently is a very “white” way of looking at Indian culture.
My great public school edumacation from Malcom Ludacris Rex University taught me that the native Americans were a gentile, peaceful, mystical, spiritual people who were at one with nature. They were completely invaded and wiped out by the uncivilized pale people who coveted their libraries of knowledge, wonderous technologies, medical cure-alls, vast farms and majestic cities.
Wait are you telling me whitey didn't invent racism and slavery? Get outta here. 😀
The correct word would be slaves. It’s almost like saying the hundreds of African slaves carried by the Cherokee and Choctaw on the Trails of Tears were ‘captives’. The Comanche kept slaves, as well as captives intended for barter. Most Native American tribes practiced slavery.
@@quinnokeefe4684 Some even fought alongside the confederacy in the civil war, like the Chickasaw, to keep this way of life.
If this interests you. "Empire of the Summer Moon" is a book about Quhana Parker and the rise and fall of the Comanche Indians. One of the best books I've ever read. And definitely the best Indian history books available
Best is suggestive, I’m reading crazy horse the strange man of the Oglala, and it is superb as well and really brings you in the culture as more of a story than narrative
Larry McMurtry and his stories are a great read.Comanche Moon,The Death Walk,Lonesome Dove and others are worth reading.
They were great horsemen. They were nomadic with a large swath of uncontested territory which meant they could strike from anywhere. But mostly it was because women and children were often targeted in Comanche raids
The Plains tribes were not really nomadic. They followed the buffalo herds. So basically they stuck to the same path, following the animals that kept them alive.
@@Cissy2cute the Comanche did not. Yes the northern Plains tribes had an established seasonal hunting ground. The Comanche did not
They were vicious sadists.
This proves Genghis's tactic effectiveness even more. Whoever is skilled at horse riding warfare, is like owning an arsenal of tanks against foot soldiers. Horse riding warfare was really the first edition of a Blitzkrieg
Hannibal would like a word with you.
@@finished6267 😂😂
Excellent description of Comanche raids. Hostiles starring Rosamind Pike and Christian Bale, do justice to the brutality of those days. Hopefully this video isn’t taken down by UA-cam for its accuracy.
They were the Vikings of the midwest, terrifying everyone. Even the Apaches ran away from them. They were only defeated after CHOLERA wiped out thousands of them, and then came the revolvers and repeating rifles...
The Vikings of the midwest?
The Vikings avoided them as much as possible.
the vikings didnt always terrorize everyone.
@@cuchulain55 And the Comanches didn't always terrorize other people. Sometimes they stayed at home and relaxed.
@@magistrumartium yes i know.:) a good people.:)
Oklahoma is not the Midwest dumbass
Noticed a few commentors are bringing up the lack of comments from over 1 million subscribers to this channel. Breaking news: K after a number represents thousands and M after a number represents millions. I hope this helps. All that being said, the information presented was a good snapshot of history.
I grew up in Hondo,Texas, and my grandparents lived in Quihi, about ten miles to the northwest. A story I heard about the early German and Czech settlers in the area stuck with me. Apparently, the Comanche raids had yet to completely stop when the settlers arrived. One day a woman's older son camre home, bragging about the Indian he had killed. Being an immigrant, whose education and skills centered around the home, she had no idea what an Indian actually was. She had heard the word, undoubtedly, but must have thought it was a new type of game. When her son showed her the Indian's body, lying outside their door, she lost her mind, screaming that her son had killed a man. She never recovered from the shock. Or so the story goes.
Rational, credible story albeit unproven. I only went though once similar experience in that area, But even though the robbery, killing means little to them - They accept and even respect credible contra-threat without vindictivenes (or "hard feelings"). They are mean but they have "fair play" in them-because they are raised by values.👺👀
German and Czech settlers? There´s never been such a thing. The settlers in Texas were Germans who came there in the 1840´s. Half died of disease and starvation. The rest built the state. The city of San Antonio has the complete records.
First time viewer and now a subscriber! This doc was awesome!
My family and I use to hunt near San Saba Tx, but I had never learned of its history before! Wow!
Road Kill Alley
I live in Goldthwaite just across the river from San Saba and we've got some stories too
Read the book Empire of the summer moon
Texas has never changed hands without a war. And any invader has never taken texas the first try.
The San Saba songbird
I enjoy the refreshing nature of these videos.
I know a family that has a Ranch in archer county Texas that has a historic marker about a battle between the comanche and army that took place on the ranch
That's awesome
I live in wichita county 7 miles from their casino they been raiding my wallet for years
Comanche still be raiding my wallet and holding me captive till im broke
Keep pumping them machines!
@@ComancheChad funny you should say that as of this moment I am here of course it's just a preventative strike only but son of bitch they are raiding my wallet for another 60
The Comanche were the "Spartans" of North America.
Extraordinary Light Cavalry !
The Texas Rangers were originally formed to seek out and destroy the Comanches; they also helped maintain the border with Mexico .
Our Native American peoples are the true Americans. We are just a bunch of mutts that destroyed a great yet simple culture out of greed. America lost…..
The seem more like the Mongolians of the plains, with the blood lust of the Aztecs
Sparta relied almost exclusively on heavy infantry.
Comanches and Apaches stand alone, they did what the did pretty recently not centuries ago vs firearms till they mastered that too
It wasn't north Texas where the raid happened when Cynthia Ann Parker was captured. It was central Texas in limestone county at ft.parker between mexia Tx and groesbeck Tx by the navasota river.The Fort still stand and is a state park.
This was wonderful. The single best book I've read on this topic comes from S.C. Gwynne, book titled Empire of the Summer Moon, highly highly recommended.
Shawnee here, we were all fierce! It was a 400 year war not the slaughter that they teach. Embrace the future for if you blame the past you will find nothing but ghost.
You know your dealing with an idiot when they claim the land was stolen from the Indians, as if they where duped. The Indians where incredibly tough and resilient and 400 years of battle is not a steal.
i’ve just found your channel and i’m so glad
You are missing the first turning point. The Texas Rangers first use of the revolver. That was the beginning of the end for the Comanches.
That and the Henry repeating rifle.
Walker colt.
Lots of things changed in 1865
Be proud of it!
Wasn't the end for comanche . There is still Comanche.
Why do think the US Army names its battlefield helicopters after Native American tribes. Its a nod of repect to your former adversary's ferocity on the battlefield
Comanches.... "they would rape and torture women and children" wow big respect so brave. Bruh I'm native American and let me just say it's pretty clear they were ass holes.
@@justdoinmything my nez perce friend said much of the same for the Apache. He said when the US army came to round the Apache up for the reservations. The history of the Nez perce people says they didn't want to help the Apache even though they knew they were next. Good riddance he said. Now to fair be I am pretty sure neither the Apache or the Comanche are not the same people today.
I'd like to ask, are modern day reservations poor quality places to live ( i have only seen one) or are they decent places to live. Or do you think its a case by case tribe by tribe bases. Do you even live on a reservation or have you even seen them. My nez perce friend did.
Dude did you even learn anything in this video? They were the EVIL tribe for EVILS sake.
Grandmother was Comanche medicine man’s daughter. They were brutal. Complete annihilation of several original tribes on land they coveted.
In other words they were not a peaceable people before Europeans came.
@@nordscan9043 - nobody was saying that. Studied three classes about Native American and just like other parts of the world. They been at war with each other. However, The US government and Britain had numerous agreements that they didn’t uphold.
@@nordscan9043 no one is completely peaceful, however native americans definitely didn't war and slaughter other tribes as much as settlers did
@@jonathanpilcher337 You are definitely talking out of your ass. The native americans absolutely warred and slaughtered other tribes at least as often as "settlers" did. They had been doing those very things for centuries before the first "settlers" even arrived, so almost certainly even more so. The "settlers" were just better at it. Your rose-tinted view of history is laughable.
Also, your derogatory use of the word "settler" is pretty ironic, considering how many tribes like the Tonkawa moved away from their "homeland" and "settled" elsewhere because of the threat posed by *other tribes*.
Did you even watch the video before you commented? Because the video directly refutes what you said.
@@--_--IMP--_-- you just sound insane, nowhere in the world did anyone do anything near the levels of colonization, nor is settler "derogatory" you absolute snowflake it's the literal appropriate term for the people that settled north america since they settled it duh dur, and settlers were only better in warfare due to better technology(thank the middle east(cradle of civilization) for that)
Straightforward and objective. Very well done
@6:50min Colonel Ranald S. MacKenzie was as the commander of the 4th US Cavalry regiment the most successful at bringing the elusive tribes to battle. During his tenure as c.o. of the 4th US
Cavalry he was 4-0 against the opposition. Comanche Chief Quannah Parker told him "You were the one we were afraid of!"
After the Battle of Palo Duro Canyon in 1874 Col. Randall MacKenzie had his men destroy over 1400 head of captured Comanche and Kiowa ponies.To an Plains Indian this was almost as bad as the death of a 👪 family member!
McKenzie practiced a tactic which holds true throughout the centuries, regardless of foe. McKenzie basically took to the field & stayed there. He was relentless in pursuit. Weather, food supplies,water, time of year was not a concern. Destruction of personal property figured into his strategy. Destroy all means of survival( horses,food,shelter,equipment) of the enemy. Took him a couple years of pursuit, into generally uncharted territory but, he accomplished what no one else had been able to do. Hell, the " white" settlers were just the last group the Natives ran up against. Anyone who thinks defeat of the settlers would have allowed the Native to roam free, has rocks for brains. Any number of explorer groups could have & probably would have subdued them eventually if circumstances had been different( distances, manpower, colonization), groups such as the Russians, Chinese, French. The whole epoch
Good video! Texas history is pretty intense
Nice one. I once saw a video on how the Eskimos road on the backs of Caribou and took control over most of subartic Canada, but im still not totally convinced whether or not this confirms the existence of Santa Claus.
Thanks for sharing. But you left out an important factor in the Comanches' weakening. It was the use of the Colt 44 navy pistol by Texas Rangers. After a famous skirmish where 2 Texas Rangers managed to kill 90 Comanche warriors. It was this incident which launched Samuel Colt as a contractor with the U.S. Army and sealed his future wealth.
As a side note, the John Ford, John Wayne movie THE SEARCHERS was based on the Cynthia Ann Parker story.
As a side note. Star Wars was about Wars in the stars.
That is one of my favorite movies.
Never heard of it
@@christophersmith2871 Instead of playing video games and watching Dancing With the Stars try a good western.
@@davidbrakefield2362 Westerns are derivative fiction, not history. Reel Injuns is a documentary on this subject.
If the Comanches had more allies instead of enemies, they may have held on to Texas. And Such scenarios can go for many other tribes as well. Perhaps the biggest weakness of all the natives was their lack of a united front. Had entire regions and tribes been unified for the same cause, Victories would have been common. But rather they kept killing each other and dividing their allegiances. Couldn’t put rivalries and political/social differences aside and unify under one wing to hold onto their way of life.
somewhat correct but texas rangers proved white culture adaptability to any tactic.inevitable
Similar to the Arab and European invasions of Africa. No over all unity. And the war like natives were so brutal to their counter parts that those counter parts were quick to aid outsiders against their original oppressors. Also Europeans weee quicker to see themselves as a common group. Native Americans and Africans saw their counterparts as “separate peoples”. So they didn’t realize that the onslaught was racially based until it was too late
@@kheindl100 We* got our asses handed to us until we developed and deployed the revolver to even up the firepower.
* I have both settler and Comanche blood in my veins. I'm speaking from a settler's perspective here.
@@T4nkcommander and learned their guerilla tactics (texas rangers). i wouldnt compare ruthless attacks on settler families to what occurred in armed battles. comanches took advantage of civil war to savage many innocent women and children until rangers stopped them and usually against odds. idea of comanche power is romanticized..by many whites
@@kheindl100 fair enough
My great-grandfather supplied horses for the army in the late 1800s. He had a ranch near Sisterdale, Texas.
"Ride the Wind" is a wonderful historical novel about Nacona, Cynthia Ann Parker, and Quanah Parker.
Is it true that once she Ms. Parker was "rescued" she couldn't adjust to life with white people very well.
@@mjs6157 Fatally true. Why did they insist on trying to make her a white woman? It should have been her choice.
@@Cissy2cute because she didnt belong to the Comanche. They kiddnaped her and killed her family save for her brother. Amazing people look over this fact.
@@brittanyhayes1043 Who is overlooking it? She became Comanche, married to an important warrior. If you live the life of a Comanche as Cynthia did, you are considered one of the tribe. She never accepted white culture and actually starved herself to death because she could not return to the tribe. As a grown woman she should have been left to make her own decisions.
The actions you mention were very common amongst Native Americans. Killing or kidnapping were arbitrary decisions made on the spot. While a Comanche woman, she made no efforts to try and escape them. She did, however, try to escape her white "family". After Prairie Flower died, she entirely lost her will to live.
@@Cissy2cute Stockholm syndrom and abuse.
So happy I found this channel. Thank you.
The Seminoles are still sovereign to this day. They didn't retreat or surrender.. In fact they defeated the u.s. military.
Hahaha that was a good one, thanks for the laugh brother!
You wish, dumbass.
@@regaininglife9084 🥾🖕
@@regaininglife9084 whether you want to believe it or not doesn't make it any less true....dumbass...to use your term of endearment!!
The Seminoles are subject to the laws of the US Government, they must pay taxes to the US Government, they can be drafted by the US Government, and they don't have their own foreign policy. The beat goes on. Not much substance to that sovereignty.
I knew nothing of this "American" history until I watched this video. 'Will have to search for mentioned books at the local library. I want to learn more about native Indian tribes. Thank you for an informative and fascinating video.
Amy, read up on Cynthia Parker, Quanah’s mother. “The Searchers” film was based on this kidnapping. She did not wish to return to the white world when finally found. (Notice the size of her hands in the picture shown in this video, the one where she’s nursing her daughter. They’re enormous, likely from the manual labor.)
My understanding is that they’re redoing “The Searchers” and, of course, doing “Empire of the Summer Moon.” Look up the author’s presentations on YT, S.C. Gwynn. Here’s an intro:
www.kirkusreviews.com/book-reviews/sc-gwynne/empire-of-the-summer-moon/.
If you care to read a sample Comanche attack and kidnapping of 2 boys, read the opening of Philipp Meyer’s “The Son.” I found it riveting. AMC put that book to TV with Pierce Brosnan in the lead. The younger version of Pierce (called Eli) was one of the brothers kidnapped, and the young actor who played him (Jacob Lofland) was extraordinary.
The USA does not teach history in its schools. I went to quite a few schools and all my history classes taught the same super basic things. I learned more on UA-cam and google(obviously be careful with getting info on google and UA-cam as well)
I did not know about Black Wallstreet until after I graduated. I wonder if our government benefits off of keeping us ignorant and hateful towards one another.
We're Native Americans. Not Indians. Get it right
Their was another very fierce tribe of Indians just south of Texas in what is now Northern Mexico....the Chichimeca
They were very fierce and war like....they defeated the Spanish and Aztecs could nor conquer them.
Probably the best archers in Mesoamerica
Aztecs live in Mexico City. Aztecs never live in northern Mexico.
@@vaughnreedjr6592 but they raided a lot of parts of Mexico for more territory and victims to sacrifice...read your history.
@@vaughnreedjr6592 Chichimeca lived in the Bajio area of Mexico not to far north from Aztec territory.
I had one of those at Taco Bell last week...
Can we keep these great video coming and don’t ever stop ?
It is very refreshing to see a video that depicts history as it was and not how we would have wanted it to be. A good depiction of a rather fierce but totally relentless warrior culture that has little redeeming features as we understand society to be. Things and first immigrants were not all rosy and friendly in the past.
Good job on these videos my man
I’m a north eastern Mexican and south Texan, the Comanche were probably my ancestors worst enemies.
They were everybody's worst enemy.
@@danor6812 hahah true
My grandmother, who passed away in the 80s told us stories of the Comanche raids. She lived in a small Northern Mexican town called Parral. She said that when the Comanches rode in everyone fled to the high grounds in the mountains where the horses couldn't pass into. Those that couldn't escape, namely women and children, were raped and massacred. These were extremely viscious people.
@@michaelwalker3935 crazy how this isn’t that long ago.
@@fighter500mx3 you truly thought this?
I think I might have found myself a new favorite channel on you tube :)
Wait so native Americans were colonizers and dealt in slavery???
I thought that was only pale faces...
The South African Zulu black tribe also held black women and girls as sex slaves when they were colonialists!
Everybodg did it. The difference was, pale faces, kept doing it and doint it to minoritites.
@@webtheweb Nope, it's the Muslims who are still doing it in Northern Africa :)
NOT the pale-faced!
@@andrewallen9993 Thanks to Obama and Hillary for turning Libya into a third world country and the new slave trade, But hey the needed liberating, or at least their gold did.
Did you ever attend world history in school? Slavery is in all manner of era and area of this world. The US just did it much bigger in modern times than anybody else. Pick up a book!
My people were masters of the horse and ruled with a iron fist. They gave no quarter and asked for none very few men of today could stand up to these great warriors
This is quite true. Comancheria stopped Western migration for over 70 years.
Well said.
So what have they done lately?
Cynthia Ann Parker was captured at Fort Parker, south of Mexia, TX by Caddo Indians who traded her to the Comanche. Her family had moved there from Grapeland, TX, some 12 miles north of Crockett, TX and built the fort. The rest of the family stayed around Grapeland, and Parkers are still in the area.
Wasn't she rescued by John Wayne?
Cynthia Ann was captured by a Comanche raiding party...her father was killed in the raid. BTW Caddos were mainly a peaceful tribe that hated the Comanche as did most other tribes.
@@philrockett2828 No Native Tribe was peaceful. That's a load of bs.
@@brittanyhayes1043 I suggest you read “Charles Goodnight” by J. Evetts Haley or “The Texas Rangers” by Walter Prescott Webb. They are classic older books, not politically correct, that will give you a clear picture of the differences between the tribes. Some were warlike... some were not.
@@philrockett2828 I guarantee there were no tribes that was peaceful. Just like back in Europe before coming to the New World no European was peaceful to eachother because they were fighting for land and power. Native Americans were doing that with there civilizations ike with the Aztecs and Chokia. So no I will not be reading your book recommendation when I know enough about human nature to be true.
A very peaceful, loving and slow to anger people- the Comanche. Fun fact: The Comanche were the original writers of the famously covered song by the youngbloods- “Get Together” “C’mon people now, smile on your brother, everybody get together, try to love one another right now.”✌🏻🕊☮️
Sure they were.
Blood Meridian really details how brutal the raids were.
And here I thought they were all just peace loving tree hugging cumbia non sense. Imagine if they taught this in school so we can honour respect our country and history as a nation…. Anyways yes they were badass and theirs a whole lot of American history that is also badass and more people should know about.
They definitely did teach about the comanche lmfao
Commanches come from Idaho/Nevada. They only moved south as white man came to the east coast and the Blackfeet moved into Montana. They were not forced out of their "original homeland" by the Apache.
Commanches are related to Shoshone. Commanches and Shoshones speak a similar language.
My family is a combination of Spaniard, Mexican, (Spaniard and Mexican on my dads side) and Comanche (on my mothers side). My mother would tell me stories she heard from her great grandmother and how she is the creation of what a "soft" Comanche can be like, meaning her father was a Mexican-Texan and her mother is a Comanche native. I take my heritage of my family living in Texas for centuries, whether thats my Spanish conquistador ancesters or my Mexican vaquero ancestors or my Tejano empasario ancesters.
The Comanches are known to have raided as far south as Queretaro, Mexico with impunity.
even greenland. they made canoes out of the buffalo skull and paddles with the hooves. crazy shit man
@@cwr8618 no…they never raided greenland dumbass
Comanche are the greatest mounted warriors ever. Smart, fast, and ruthless.
Until they got their ass handed to them.
@@12floz67 actually quannah Parker never lost a battle and was he most feared Comanche of all time at age fourteen,he only surrendered to gain power from gaining an education and became the richest native American ever,
@@golandamato4701 totally agree with you, The Mongols nearly ruled the world,,,
@@guybanks5641
Where are they now?
@bass & pickrel slayer
And smarter tactics
We are still Warriors. I'm a Woman warriors. First Nation's Texas. Be safe family
Much respect to you and your tribe.
Apache and Cherokee Comanche
I’m tonkowa and your tribe took our homes no big deal though lol
Many thing forced ON us. 1492 till today. I pray for all that lives on Mother earth and the Kids suffering underneath. Our sacred children. Our sacred water food. Land. Honor to your nation's
@@frenchpizza9725 I can agree and don’t hold a grudge to your tribe or you
They said if you was fighting the Comanche with a six shooter you never emptied the pistol you saved the last round.
I feel like you didn’t explain WHAT made them fierce. It’s interesting to hear that they were a terror to everyone in the plains, but what made them different?
Similar to the Spartans a warrior culture
Their demonic nature.
They were just flesh and blood. Just like the third reich
The fact that they were so aggressive, fearless and cutthroat is what made them fierce
They weren‘t more fierce than any other of the hunter/gatherer tribes in the area where they came from. The harsh living conditions usually led to gruesome confrontations among the tribes competing for limited ressources. Comanche originally were part of the Eastern Shoshone (Utah, Montana, Wyoming) until some of them picked up the ability to farm and ride horses from the Spanish during the mid 1600s. This became the technical advantage compared with other tribes that had not yet cultivated horses. It did not change the character of the confrontations but it made them win more often. Due to this advantage they were also able to hunt bisons in greater numbers than before which also helped growing the number of members of the tribe as they were able to feed more offspring and captured. It also led to smaller tribes reaching out to the Comanche for cooperation and help. So the Apache were driven west or were wiped out. Fun Fact: the Eastern Shoshone once reached out into the Great Plains before they headed south but were pushed back by Blackfoot and Sioux who also cultivated horses and used a tool their Shoshone rivals did not have access to at the time: firearms.
They were by all standards the greatest light calvery the world had seen. Their skill with a bow and arrow on horseback was unmatched and once they became proficient with revolvers and rifles they were unstoppable. Combine all that with the way they treated their enemy in battle and after its no wonder the Comanche were feared by Indians and settlers.
Well, they were stopped by American calvary. Lol
As long as you ignore the Mongols of course
Strange then how they wr conquered
@@stecomer4303 a lot more white people. Quite
Simple. Any battle with even #’s was won by native Americans
If they were unstoppable????? What happened. Oh, gosh maybe, just maybe they were finally "put in there proper place" by the WHITE MAN. They were ultimately Murdered , like the MILLIONS of other Native Americans just so you, ME and anybody else could have a home here. Have a nice day. PS: You as well as me are walking on sacred ground here my friend.
The Apaches should chime in on this one.
They can’t, the Comanches wiped them off the map
@@lukemix6463 Then explain why there were Apache raids all the way into the 1920s
@Kim Bim contrary to popular belief Geronimo and his followers were far from the last band of free Apache.
@@lukemix6463 maybe in Texas but they new better than to come over the sandie mountains where they would’ve gotten wipe out by the Pueblo’s, Apache, Navajos!!!!
the KCA's was the Kiowa, Comanche, and Apache's, the military name attack helicopters after them.
I'm from San Antonio. The mission's are practically in my back yard since I'm from the south side of town...So much history here..
Judging from the comments, America can't process that you can condemn colonialism/Manifest Destiny and acknowledge the natives weren't fairy tale tree huggers.
This comment needs waaay more likes!
OR that the Native Americans were really peaceful.
Comanche, Apache, Sioux - these were names from mythology for a kid growing up in Ireland. What a thrill to travel the states and learn it was all quite recent history. And then to even live with the Navajo for a while. In Ireland, Crazy Horse stands shoulder to shoulder with heroes like Cuchulain. The Comanche were invincible. Best mounted light infantry since the Mongols. It was cholera that got them in the end. One U.S. officer compared fighting the Comanche to trying to fight a swarm of angry wasps.
My great grandmother was born while natives were still fairly active in the West (1880s). She lived until 1978 and I remember her asking me about how 1st grade was going. The past is closer than we think.
@@GUITARTIME2024 it really is. I work for a guy whose father fought in the first world war.
Wdym Comanche was way better then the mongols at archery they only started losing after the revolver was invented
I was always told my grandmother and grandpa were half Comanche and my great grandfather on grandmas side was full Comanche and his wife was from Mexico , and great grand parents on grandpa’s side were one was Apache and one was Comanche... I would guess the Comanche had took captive the Apache ... but I had the dna test and I do have lots of Native American history just lots of it isn’t able too be pin pointed ... i know my grand mother came to Iowa in a covered wagon from a Indian reservation in South Dakota some where and she married my grand father a brick red headed Irishman / Comanche... came from Texas up through the southern Midwest and ended up in Iowa he fought in world war 1 and was lost to cancer in 1945 ... I guess it was some kinda weed killer they over sprayed on everyone ... but he was dark skinned but brick red hair so he had lil trouble working as a white man and grandma always claimed to the neighbors that she was from gypsy decent the black hair , but there was no dispute that she was Native American in her older years ... she looked her heritage then but her stories got them thru the hatred of the time . I wish I knew more but all the family is gone all aunts uncles my parents I have grandma’s family bible which she kept track of who her parents Christian names were not their Native American names nor any tribal info ... is their places I might search for my great grand parents Comanche heritage? Any help would be great !
Wow, I was born and raised in West Texas and also became aware that my ancestry was made of Chiricahua Apache and Comanche. The stories passed on by my grandparents sound similar to yours. I am also part Spanish, so that's one hell of a mix, but makes it very interesting when my kids ask. My grandparents would tell stories of travel to and from Nebraska in wagons too, but as a kid, that never interested me, until I found out my ancestry. Now I learn as much as I can about my rich and diverse ancestry so I can pass on that knowledge to my kids and hopefully their kids as well. I am so very proud to have blood from these two tribes in my veins.
Yeah all you white people claim to have Native blood!
@@johnlaws9853 Sir I didn’t not claim anything I’m only going on family stories ... I’m tan/white no mistake im very white. Wife and I did a ancestry swab and my wife we knew was Eastern European blonde blue eyes me I came back a miss match ... nobody’s claimed anything I was just looking into finding where my Native American genes came from ... don’t worry and flip your wigwam... no plans too sell my house in the burbs my truck or Harley and move into a tee pee on the reservation.
@@stevedingman474 Do I detect a bit of narcissism in your character, because I was generalizing my retort!
@@johnlaws9853 nah was just pointing out I wasn’t looking too cash in on a casino check . I am truly trying too find out where my Native American genes came from so I can pass it along to my children.
Great video, very educational and interesting. I just subscribed. Thanks.
The Iroquois where also pretty bad ass. They virtually exterminated their traditional tribal enemies the Algonquins and the Hurons and they helped the Canadians defeat the invading armies from the USA in the war of 1812 thus preventing Canada becoming part of the USA.
Great Book. "On the Border with Mackenzie; or, Winning West Texas from the Comanches" (Fred H. and Ella Mae Moore Texas History Reprint Series) Paperback - Illustrated, February 18, 2011
Another fine work.
@@michaelfitzgerald434 Puts the Reader right back in that time. Many hardships. Makes one really appreciate the comforts of this time. Would be great to ship millions back to that time. I bet many would come back with a deeper appreciation of how good they have it now in this country.
Many tribes didn't deserve their fate. The horrific tortures they perpetrated makes me unsympathetic to the Comanches tribe.
The Crows (Arikara) said the Lakotas were monsters. It is why the Crows quickly made peace with, and joined up with, the military. They hated the Lakota and were more then happy to join anyone who fought them. Crows made great scouts and interpreters. It is the reason that even up to today they have a large reservation and it was always seen that they received proper food as they were allies with the whites early on.
@@Cissy2cute... I suppose it's proper to remember what archaeologists have learned. Before Europeans came there were plenty of wars between tribes. Earlier inhabitants were replaced (meaning wiped out) by later invaders. When Europeans arrived, no land anywhere was occupied by the tribe that first settled it.
I'm sure there were terrible tribal wars. There was no written history, so it is mostly lost.
@@tomasmccauley569 I was thinking along those same lines. And no doubt many of them were as ferocious as these Native tribes. It was the way of their world. My ancestors came from the far north in very hospitable climates. And those were very gut-wrenching battles they fought. It is hard to imagine walking over ground that was totally soaked in blood.
You put all white settlers into one basket. Not all of them treated Natives at all in a negative way. Often mutual trading provided advantages to both sides. And so many small families trying to pull a meager existence out of unyielding soil suffered horribly just trying to survive. It is a sad story yet there are two sides to every coin.
It’s called life.
@@patton9696 "Things should be as simple as possible, but not simpler"