well researched. it should be mentioned that athletes can suffer from the public humiliation (of being caught) that 'guilt' drives them into depression - and those cases should keep the fellow athletes in check when dissing ex dopers, e. g. Nina Kraft or Marco Pantani - just two examples.
Man you should see the top finisher at local sprint tris in South Florida. 1:10 pace for swim, 26 mph avg speed on the bike and 5:40 pace for the run (800/15 mi / 3.1) 51 years old, Testosterone is huge with recreational use for guys (or gals?) who cycle, run, or do tris. It comes back to ego and self- love. Which isn't all bad but I do think it gets pushed to the max with people.
This was an awesome video! I think the triathlon world would love to hear more stories from your experiences as a pro, especially now that you feel free to discuss them. Also, Santa: I would like a Dimomd bike for xmas
I’d like to see a requirement that makes athletes publicly disclose TUEs and the specifics of the TUE. It would certainly be controversial and it chips away at medical privacy for sure, but because athletes are abusing the TUE process, the consumers (Us!) should know what athlete is taking what drug for what reason and then make our own judgment.
I don’t know if you’re going to read this, but what are your thoughts on using ketamine to treat severe depression? I ask because when you’re racing and you’re severely depressed it’s like dragging a god damn boat anchor. My FTP went from 301 to 161 the worse my depression got. Within a month starting ketamine therapy it jumped 100 watts, it fucking kicked that depression’s ass, I didn’t feel like I was racing handicapped any more. What are your thoughts?
Ketamine binds to beta adrenergic receptors and exerts bronchodilator effects as well as increasing endogenous catecholamine release such as dopamine, epinephrine and norepinephrine. So Ketamine not only treats depression, it’s a performance enhancer.
I mean, how come Mark Allen beat Dave Scott in 1989 in Hawai, when this race was always a hell for him. in those times there was suspicion on Delgado, Lemond etc. what do you think ? thanks 4 Ur answer.
If we as spectators and consumers of the sport want to see the very best and be entertained, should we stop policing doping? If the pros are already doing it and it is evidently impossible to 100% enforce the rules, shouldn't we let the pro's be pro's? I appreciate hearing your perspective and not pulling any punches.
@@roberttaylorcomedy I agree. There are a few age groupers who have been banned for doping...obviously many more cheating. The world is far more likely to remember a person who doped than any person who chose not to dope.
@@TJ.at.DimondBikes thanks a lot, you mean not guilty until proven so; Saïd Aouita though , the track runner (5000m)by the mid-eighties, was in touch with Dr Ferrari in Italy, in search for PED . from this time on, EPO made its way in cycling & track&field. why not triathlon ? Greg Welsh was a hell of a runner, never made it to Allen; Scott : "the run is my (deadly) weapon", he said he could smash all good 10k runners in the finale of Kona. so no doubt juice was on (under)the table back in those days for multi-winners like Allen. my opinion.
@@jaimecorvus6373 yes of course. TriA is the place to test any new substance because all AG can try it because they have the money to do so (wealthy middle age men and women). It is safe ... no drug test there. Even when therer is... it is controlled by private companies... not like in athletics. I compete in athletics and at every race there is a room reserved for "Doping Control" and written on it. It is never used. Only to scare people. Now only when you reach international level (not winning the national championship but going for international events) you will be ask to follow a "race clean" policy. Then only at this stage you could be put on a special list to be controlled and you would be told. The cost for a test is over 500$ when done at an event. Done at a personal home at any time of the day in the world involving 2 officials would cost a lot. The national athletics federation have such a low budget that they don't put any money into doping. That said TriA is really where things can be tested and if successful will go into other sports.
Honestly...if I'm an age grouper and I get caught doping...I would frame that ban letter on my wall because I think it's hilarious age groupers have restrictions.
I wouldn't mind betting there are a higher percentage of age group athletes doping then pros. Who is going to pay for out of competition drug tests for age groupers, easy for a age grouper to get on it in off season.
@@geoffreymccann2841 yeah I meant on the age group level I think its silly to waste money and resources but on the pro level...yeah they need do as much as they can.
@@jfloyo11 it's just a shit system if you look at it from a whole not just the sports that people are interested in. If your Russian your looked upon as a automatic drug cheat yet if you play NFL you could get a 2 match ban for a drug that if you were a track runner you could get 4 years or in some countries potentially do jail time. It's just a shit system!
well researched. it should be mentioned that athletes can suffer from the public humiliation (of being caught) that 'guilt' drives them into depression - and those cases should keep the fellow athletes in check when dissing ex dopers, e. g. Nina Kraft or Marco Pantani - just two examples.
Thanks for the video. The more content and open discussion like this the better!
Man you should see the top finisher at local sprint tris in South Florida. 1:10 pace for swim, 26 mph avg speed on the bike and 5:40 pace for the run (800/15 mi / 3.1) 51 years old, Testosterone is huge with recreational use for guys (or gals?) who cycle, run, or do tris. It comes back to ego and self- love. Which isn't all bad but I do think it gets pushed to the max with people.
2:02 for a micro-second I thought I was about top hear Alberto . . . Contador
I'd say basicslly all pros and most upper level amateurs are doped (e.g. epo; test: hgh)
I don't think many armatures and low level pros are doing epo, I think epo is a little dangerous to do without a doctor and very expensive
This was an awesome video! I think the triathlon world would love to hear more stories from your experiences as a pro, especially now that you feel free to discuss them. Also, Santa: I would like a Dimomd bike for xmas
Tj you the man
this aged well, and yea so many still not caught
gray doping MUST age well
There should be two competitions:
one - open to all drugs, no testing;
two - all competitors tested.
I am sick of running against cheats.
I’d like to see a requirement that makes athletes publicly disclose TUEs and the specifics of the TUE. It would certainly be controversial and it chips away at medical privacy for sure, but because athletes are abusing the TUE process, the consumers (Us!) should know what athlete is taking what drug for what reason and then make our own judgment.
Talking about a taboo subject. Great info
I don’t know if you’re going to read this, but what are your thoughts on using ketamine to treat severe depression? I ask because when you’re racing and you’re severely depressed it’s like dragging a god damn boat anchor. My FTP went from 301 to 161 the worse my depression got. Within a month starting ketamine therapy it jumped 100 watts, it fucking kicked that depression’s ass, I didn’t feel like I was racing handicapped any more. What are your thoughts?
Ketamine binds to beta adrenergic receptors and exerts bronchodilator effects as well as increasing endogenous catecholamine release such as dopamine, epinephrine and norepinephrine.
So Ketamine not only treats depression, it’s a performance enhancer.
Great video. No fairy tales in pro sports.
They’re all at it…
I mean, how come Mark Allen beat Dave Scott in 1989 in Hawai, when this race was always a hell for him. in those times there was suspicion on Delgado, Lemond etc. what do you think ? thanks 4 Ur answer.
If we as spectators and consumers of the sport want to see the very best and be entertained, should we stop policing doping? If the pros are already doing it and it is evidently impossible to 100% enforce the rules, shouldn't we let the pro's be pro's? I appreciate hearing your perspective and not pulling any punches.
Fair point to legalize doping but then we would turm the sport into professional wrestling and every pro would have a heart attack by 40.
@@roberttaylorcomedy I agree. There are a few age groupers who have been banned for doping...obviously many more cheating. The world is far more likely to remember a person who doped than any person who chose not to dope.
The TUE is garbage they need to stop this as it's the loophole athletes used to dope.
The thing.s is how much money is in pro triathlons, compared to pro cycling, that necessitates risking doping?
The music on your channel is dope - ban it
I just can't go in for those shaman stories, spiritual changes etc, all bullsh*t.
If it looks like a duck, swims like a duck, and quacks like a duck...it is probably a duck.
@@TJ.at.DimondBikes sounds like Delphi Pythia's enigma to Oedipus; what link to Mark Allen ?
@@jaimecorvus6373 the facts are 1) there was no drug testing in Kona in 1989 2) blood doping was NOT illegal until 1986
@@TJ.at.DimondBikes thanks a lot, you mean not guilty until proven so; Saïd Aouita though , the track runner (5000m)by the mid-eighties, was in touch with Dr Ferrari in Italy, in search for PED . from this time on, EPO made its way in cycling & track&field. why not triathlon ? Greg Welsh was a hell of a runner, never made it to Allen; Scott : "the run is my (deadly) weapon", he said he could smash all good 10k runners in the finale of Kona. so no doubt juice was on (under)the table back in those days for multi-winners like Allen. my opinion.
@@jaimecorvus6373 yes of course.
TriA is the place to test any new substance because all AG can try it because they have the money to do so (wealthy middle age men and women).
It is safe ... no drug test there.
Even when therer is... it is controlled by private companies... not like in athletics.
I compete in athletics and at every race there is a room reserved for "Doping Control" and written on it. It is never used. Only to scare people.
Now only when you reach international level (not winning the national championship but going for international events) you will be ask to follow a "race clean" policy. Then only at this stage you could be put on a special list to be controlled and you would be told.
The cost for a test is over 500$ when done at an event. Done at a personal home at any time of the day in the world involving 2 officials would cost a lot.
The national athletics federation have such a low budget that they don't put any money into doping.
That said TriA is really where things can be tested and if successful will go into other sports.
Honestly...if I'm an age grouper and I get caught doping...I would frame that ban letter on my wall because I think it's hilarious age groupers have restrictions.
I wouldn't mind betting there are a higher percentage of age group athletes doping then pros. Who is going to pay for out of competition drug tests for age groupers, easy for a age grouper to get on it in off season.
@@geoffreymccann2841 They for sure dope...but I kind of dont care...I actually think its a waste of money to control it.
@@jfloyo11 the system has to change in some way because it does not work at any level.
@@geoffreymccann2841 yeah I meant on the age group level I think its silly to waste money and resources but on the pro level...yeah they need do as much as they can.
@@jfloyo11 it's just a shit system if you look at it from a whole not just the sports that people are interested in.
If your Russian your looked upon as a automatic drug cheat yet if you play NFL you could get a 2 match ban for a drug that if you were a track runner you could get 4 years or in some countries potentially do jail time. It's just a shit system!