She’s an abuser and I hate that she’s not being called out on it. When Karamo thought he was beating her he had a confrontational attitude but when she admitted to being the aggressor and stabbing him his voice softened. He needs to leave her and get his kids. It’s clear she’s a raging alcoholic and cannot control her emotions.
Exactly! She is clearly the aggressor and needs to stop it right now and her momma needs to cut it out because her daughter is the starter and the finisher. Women need to keep their hands off of other people’s son because some women like me do not teach their son to turn the other cheek. Everybody son is not Martin Luther king.
I’m so glad Karamo is a black man because most people would’ve stopped at that black man beats her. But not Karamo he listened to what he was saying and she’s the aggressor he’s simply defending himself. I hope she gets the help she needs for her anger.
I agree but I wish he put more focus on the fact she gets mad when he’s calm. She doesn’t give him space to cool off and it sounds like she does everything to provoke him 😅
I love how Karmo handles these situations so gently with full eye contact and understanding. He is not judging anyone but simply wanting to help and share his knowledge.
Are y'all listening to the same show? She admitted to also putting her hands on him but most of the comments are addressing her needing to leave him. Just as much as he needs to stop, she does too!
@@zammymynakersnackstbmoth girl that I ain't my disagreement. My disagreement is that everyone is addressing him being an abuser when she's also an abuser
This lady & gentlemen is gaslighting 101. She physically beats him, he tries to leave until he tires of her beating him & strikes her back. She is not a victim. This couple is doomed. He’s really handsome. Any appreciative woman would be very lucky to have him.
It seems like it's actually her being the aggressor because he looks like he wants to cry, walks away & smiles of nervousness. All she wanted was a free DNA test & that's truly sad because as we see they need help.
They are both a hot mess but he is attractive though. Guuuuurrrllll I know those women in that audience is looking at him sideways... Whew.... @@gwen3277
From what he is saying and she has agreed with everything he said she is the one starting all the violence in their household. Women need to stop thinking it is ok to hit or harm a man and then turn around and act like a victim when he defends himself. They both need to coparent and not be in a relationship with each other...
My kids were 17 and 16 when their father moved in because we was having another baby. All it took was for him to raise his voice at me one time, became disrespectful, and disrupt my kids peace, and he was out! Period! I would never mess with my kids psych just have a man in the house.
you can literally see her husbands demeanor change as they keep talking. they both genuinely needed help and to tell each other how they felt without it escalating like that in front of those babies.
She seems to have so much sense. Unfortunately sometimes toxicity just takes hold of individuals and it’s sad. I wish the best for the both of them even if they’re not together
I’m sure she’ll move on after he puts about 5 more babies in her like my Dad with my Mom & spent most of her years despising him & passed most of that toxicity & pain on to us. R.I.H. The scars our parents leave behind. Smh.
@@angelacarlisle1708 No they're not. They never used to fight. She puts his hands on him and he defends himself. She nearly killed him when she STABBED him. He's a victim of abuse.
The lack of accountability from this woman is insane. I see her trying to change but she doesn’t want to be judged. This just shows how no matter what gender you are you can be abusive.
@@sashab9899 if that was a man he would of chewed him out. He barely glanced over her bad behavior. This is the problem with ALOT of black women. Always acting clueless!
It’s the fact it’s black women in these comments talking about her hair like it’s not a bigger deal than her hair right now. Not to mention ; this woman is truly beautiful. It’s sickening how much the black community will attack eachother yet we will attck another race for doing it to us. If we gone stick together that’s what it needs to be ; otherwise we are proving them all right; that we can’t. This woman is saying he’d children hear and see her getting abused and y’all care about her wig ? 😭🤦🏾♀️ disgusting. Then some of the women commenting about don’t got nothing on her…. Like bffr. It’s the audacity for me. Then this woman isn’t a victim either because she puts her hands on him too ; so we need to be encouraging them to separate and heal for themselves and if it’s gods will come back together healthy. People are focused on the wrong things and it’s crazy.
I don't know why women come on this show and make it seem like the guy they're with are so abusive. This just proves that she has an issues and she has abusive tendencies. I'm glad Karamo recognized it and is offering them both help. It's all about accountability and it takes two to tangle.
What also bothered me is that he said he always walks away. That's what men are told to do, but it doesn't work with women like her. Walking away just makes her more furious and she puts hands on him, instead of letting him walk away.
They.both have ....and one reason they are on if you didnt pay attention was he was denying his kids 🙄 like a lot of these so called men do..plus he didnt get sent down for over 2yrs for being a freakin choir boy
You know what I hate hypocritical parents that say they want there children to be in healthy relationship and yet refuse to be a role model for a healthy relationship. If you want to protect a child learn how to protet your well health and wellbeing first so your child knows right from wrong.
I will never understand these people who constantly accuse there partner of cheating and yet don't leave. People like this don't want a relationship they only want to drama. If they wanted a relationship, they would done something immediately to find out the truth instead of draggings out.
I mean if you're willing to kill me I don't think cheating is a huge stretch. Just saying, if my partner tries to murder me I wouldn't feel very secure. But hey that's me 🤷🏿♂️
Its not easy when you actual care for or love the person in your life, if they truly are important to you it is hard in most cases to walk away especially if you devoted time to the relationship wheter it a friend family or itimate partner
He knows she not cheating (my opinion though) but the fact they are putting hands on each other is disturbing-the fact of stabbing him with a knife. I’m glad Karamo always try’s to get to the root of the problem. I hope they go to counseling for everyone’s sake. 13, 1 year old, and 7months- they are worth it! ❤
@@goeadIf he questioned being the dad then he should have asked for the test instead of constantly accusing her of cheating or denying the children. I hope the children never overheard him denying being their father. Plus he gets upset if she comes in late but he does it. I don’t know when he went to prison or what for but he should recognize he played a part in creating that situation by leaving her and the children in a financial bind. his children still need to eat while he’s locked up. She needs to go to rehab and learn to keep her hands to herself.
She stabbed him and is the one who can’t keep her hands to herself! Like SIR! I mean I have been pretty ticked at folks in my past and never thought to hurt them! Maybe get away from them and not hear from them but seriously who stabbing someone you truly love!
Unfortuntely, Ive been there. Provoking or hitting a man thinnking because you're a woman he wont hit you back or he shouldnt. Until I learned to control myself I lived in toxicity. I am praying for them❤
I really appreciate how he tries to help both parties. He never is hard on his guest.I respect his views. I pray for his success. Thank you for how you are.Youre helping alot of people.
I like that Karamo kept listening to figure out who the agressor was. He didn't judge or joke with either of them and was genuinely serious about them fixing or abandoning that behavior for themselves and for their kids. Love Karamo
Karamo glossing over her stabbing him is ridiculous. If this was vice versa there wouldnt even be talks about work it out, the conversation would be “get the hell out of there”. The double standards are crazy. And for everyone about to defend her they literally both agreed he hit her back in self defense when she gets physical first. If youre going to be a therapist you Dont allow your own trauma to be the foundation of biased advice.
This. Like what even is the conversation after someone tries to kill you or seriously injury you it’s time to leave. Likewise if you’re so angry and distraught that it makes you violent then get some help and leave that man alone. I don’t agree with how this was handled.
These two love each other. Her drinking alcohol and partying is more damaging than her violence. He needs to stay off the streets and stay solid. This couple clearly love each other but dislike any hint of disloyalty from the other. She is more passionate about the relationship than he is, hence the alcohol and violence. He needs to be sturdy for them both.
He is not the aggressor (it doesn’t dispute the fact that he cheated) but I really think when they argue she goes into defense mode when he gets angry because she is still traumatized from her last relationship (being physically abused). Him being angry triggers her and she thinks he’s going to hit her just like the last man did , even if he didn’t abuse her before he went to prison. She definitely needs more therapy and I think he has a right to defend himself if she puts her hands on him. I don’t think he should necessarily use closed fist but as far as shoving her off of him yes.
Is there a bias towards women in this comment section? He’s fowl for putting hands on her. BUT SHE STABBED HIM heading towards his heart and had to go to hospital. What do you mean?! She has a drinking problem and had another abusive man around her babies when he was in prison. The lady needs help and so does he. My goodness I feel for them babies! All of them. What they’ve witnessed in life
This is so sad for their babies. This girl said they “fist fight”, that’s CRAZY. I hate to see young people like this, I hope they get help. They really seem beautiful at their hearts. ♥️
They both have admitted to putting their hands on each other. Elizer seems like he is dealing with emotional pain and like his pain was overlooked. He just seems like he needs someone to pamper him and make him feel safe and secure so he can let himself be vulnerable and heal from whatever seems to be weighing heavy on his spirit. People always assume that men of color are made of stone. Hope they both get a chance to find peace and happiness in their lives.
@@CMichelleWhite I’m not talking about the physical fights 🤣I’m talking about him cheating she knew what type of man he was before she had a baby 💯but thankyou for your input
If we’re having an argument and it’s escalating beyond a certain point, ima walk away. We can come back when we’re calmer, able to effectively use our words. If I try to leave and you start trying to prevent me from leaving, you damn skippy ima try to ward you off so I can leave. I’m not saying ima just start swinging all sporadically, intentionally trying to cause you harm, but if I wanna leave I should be able to leave. I can honestly understand trying to get someone off of you so that you can leave and deescalate the problem. But abuse is not ok period, from either party
Karamo= no judgement. Love this: it’s because of judgments that folks be afraid to address their issues. No cap: We either have been here or have family members that have. I hope they take you up on that offer they deserve and their kids deserve better out of life. ❤❤❤❤❤❤
I loved how Karamo addressed this. I love this man's content. So realistic and he tries his all to solve the issue. It's not just about entertainment. She needs serious help,
Typical woman comment! But u didn't see the part where she is the agressor of domestic violence in thier home and stabbed him with a knife which nearly took his life.
No one outside the relationship can say 100% guarantee you know a person isn't or is cheating. Period! Move away from toxic relationships. Non fighting before prison but fighting after prison. Fighting after the abusive previous relationship. Family & individual therapy/counseling is needed, if not required.
People are usually the products of their environment. I honestly feel bad for the both of them. Her mother modeled to her that abuse is normal. The guy seems to have issues with infidelity but he doesn’t seem to be the abusive type. She seems like the aggressor. Either way I really hope that they get the help that they need. I will say it again and again that Karamo is exactly what the black community needed!🙏🏾
@@angelacarlisle1708 Are you the mom or the sister or a close relative? You seem way too invested in this. If you are then please get your daughter therapy. She needs to heal from her deep rooted issues, this will help her to be a healthier and better human being. It will help her to be a better mom to her kids. She deserves to be better.
This is the perfect example that there is always two sides to the story. Yes the husband is wrong for denying the children were not his. We hear the wife’s side of the story and her mother’s version of the husband being physically abusive only to find out that it’s the wife is who is actually the physical aggressor and apparently an alcoholic. Karamo asked the husband “Why don’t you walk away instead of putting your hands on her?” He responds, “I do walk away. I don’t like to argue. But she comes after me and attacks me! I get tired of being hit and I have to fight back! She even stabbed me!” Her response was, “well I took him to the hospital!” This woman is dillusionable! Her mother thinks it’s ok for her to hit him but he doesn’t have the right to hit back. I don’t advise anyone to stay in an abusive relationship. Yes they both need counseling and anger management. But they don’t need to be together. This woman comes from family of abuse. She’s been in other abusive relationships. And she brings her history with her. She will never be in a safe relationship until she deal with her own demons. And her mother needs to stay in her lane. In the end the husband is the one being abused. This is sad. They both need help.
No judgement here Sis, I appreciate you so much for coming on the show that takes a lot o guts so thank you Sis, you helping so many people - to #healourcommunity. Peace and blessings Family. Thank you Karamo!
People act like there is only one type of abuse when there are multiple . Some of them include physical, emotional, financial and verbal. They are both abusers. I think they should separate and seek individual counseling. Maybe after they deal with their personal issues they can make it work together.
@@xan8123 Is there a bias towards women in this comment section? He’s fowl for putting hands on her. BUT SHE STABBED HIM heading towards his heart and had to go to hospital. She has a drinking problem and had another abusive man around her babies when he was in prison. The lady needs help and so does he. I feel for them babies! All of them. What they’ve witnessed in life
Right on Karmo, please help them that fighting just mess up the kids, traumatize them. I’m so proud of you for breaking free being successful in helping others. I love your show. I love you too❤️❤️❤️
These type of relationships make me not want one. Seems like so many couples are so toxic nowadays and the drama is so not necessary. If you're that unhappy, just leave. My son learned an ex was cheating and immediately left her that same day he found out...no looking back, no physical fights. So yea, just leave and let it go. So many people make too many excuses not to🤦🏽♀️🤷🏽♀️
As someone who has been in an abusive relationship (on both ends). This one triggered me too. His lack of accountability is ASTOUNDING. They both just need to let it go & coparent. I love how Karamo handles these situations. He’s really a gem.
I find it funny how y’all turn a blind eye to domestic abuse against men. She was putting her hands on him like that’s was a fight that she could handle and then he reacted back. Men shouldn’t lay their hands on a woman and the same goes for women to men. I think she need to hold her self accountable putting her hands on a man.
@@phasekasumi4459That's my thing... to say he doesn't take accountability, but *completely* ignore him saying she stabbed him by his heart and he almost died. That he only fights back, not beat her for shits and giggles... When he walks away from the arguing, she attacks. And none of it started until she got out of the relationship with the guy that was beating her while he was in jail. They're both toxic for each other and need to separate, but to only find fault in him, is just stupid.
@@phasekasumi4459 I didn’t turn a blind eye to anything. He lied at first, Karamo had to drag it out of him. I don’t agree that women should just be able to hit on men but it’s obvious what’s going on whether yall wanna admit it or not.
He shoud leave her before things get worse... She seems to be the toxic aggressor that starts fights with him. He tries to avoid confrontation but she can't handle that. The two of the together is a recipe for disaster.
This made me so emotional. It’s so much anger & hurt in this world & I just wish everyone could be released of their pain😭 I don’t justify any violent actions but when she said she wants to talk but I scared of being judged I just wanted to hug her. he is a respectable man tho you can’t lie. people can only be pushed so far & he held on as long as he could. I really hope they both find peace within their babies
@@nathanielbillings8I somewhat agree BUT I have seen some bias; he tends to take the side of adult children AGAINST their parents, no matter the situation nor how DISRESPECTFUL OR HOSTILE the kids are...
When the crowd clapped for her talking about “you a man” I’m sitting here like 🤨 if he’s a man don’t put your hands on him… I’ma firm believer of if you put your hands on somebody regardless of the gender be ready to fight.
@@crazymusicgrlcheesecake That’s domestic abuse against a man… probably women should feel like that they can challenge a man. He literally said that he could’ve lost his life to her.
Now she need to take her children and move on from him her point has been proven..she need to listen to her beautiful MaMa!!! Let him go honey find peace for yourself and your children go b happy let real love respect come your way in due time..💖💖💖😇😇😇
They don’t understand, Karamo is a mandated reporter…. If they don’t agree to make a change, he is legally obliged to report this…. They need to CHANGE
Sorry mom, but she is not leaving anytime soon. She's busy trying to prove to her cheating husband, that keeps threatening her with divorce, that she is faithful and that the kids are his, so that she can remain in her abusive marriage.
So is someone does this to your son, stabbing him and all?? It’s not to portray someone as a abusive partner knowing they are really defending themselves. Just because your a woman doesn’t mean you can put your hands on someone. It’s not right.
SHE NEEDS TO STOP HITTING HIM FIRST...SHE'S THE AGGRESSOR
There’s no excuse for violence against a partner. Period.
Was going to say just that!! Thank you 🙏🏼
She’s an abuser and I hate that she’s not being called out on it. When Karamo thought he was beating her he had a confrontational attitude but when she admitted to being the aggressor and stabbing him his voice softened. He needs to leave her and get his kids. It’s clear she’s a raging alcoholic and cannot control her emotions.
Dam you one of the only ones who she it as it is, they still gonna make her out as the victim and the man out as a scumbag either way
He explained why
Dang I agree 100% man you hit it right on the head
Exactly! She is clearly the aggressor and needs to stop it right now and her momma needs to cut it out because her daughter is the starter and the finisher. Women need to keep their hands off of other people’s son because some women like me do not teach their son to turn the other cheek. Everybody son is not Martin Luther king.
And THAT's my big issue with Karamo and it's because women are his core audience
I’m so glad Karamo is a black man because most people would’ve stopped at that black man beats her. But not Karamo he listened to what he was saying and she’s the aggressor he’s simply defending himself. I hope she gets the help she needs for her anger.
I agree bc if they was in front of judge Mathis he would’ve been on his head without hearing him out
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@@robert123461For real. Judge Mathis always sides with the woman when it comes to violence and child support.
I agree but I wish he put more focus on the fact she gets mad when he’s calm. She doesn’t give him space to cool off and it sounds like she does everything to provoke him 😅
Yea I'm glad he dug deeper into those accusations.
I love how Karmo handles these situations so gently with full eye contact and understanding. He is not judging anyone but simply wanting to help and share his knowledge.
Move on sis
He doesn't hold women accoutable,accountable, always the man's fault. ANYWAYS THE SHOW IF WOMEN.
Amen
I’m glad he out her bc she was tryna paint him 100% at fault
They’re not going to separate. This is honestly tragic. The both of them should be ashamed for wanting to harm each other
For real!!!! She like that mess.😢😢
They are
the main topic of this episode was to not judge ...ppl come here to try to fix their bad habits and get help....
The thing is they have both accepted the therapy offered by the host! Both want to change
@@willthebestbest9667I honestly hope they do
Are y'all listening to the same show? She admitted to also putting her hands on him but most of the comments are addressing her needing to leave him. Just as much as he needs to stop, she does too!
Well if she "can't" stop, she needs to leave him tf alone. How are you disagreeing that she needs to go?
Absolutely agree! 💯
@@zammymynakersnackstbmoth girl that I ain't my disagreement. My disagreement is that everyone is addressing him being an abuser when she's also an abuser
I have two boys nd two girls nd I tell them dont put ur hands on nobody but dont allowed nobody to put their hands on you !!
@@dianalogan6185 accurate! Both are girls and boys need to learn that.
This lady & gentlemen is gaslighting 101. She physically beats him, he tries to leave until he tires of her beating him & strikes her back. She is not a victim. This couple is doomed. He’s really handsome. Any appreciative woman would be very lucky to have him.
Righttt
It seems like it's actually her being the aggressor because he looks like he wants to cry, walks away & smiles of nervousness. All she wanted was a free DNA test & that's truly sad because as we see they need help.
They are both a hot mess but he is attractive though. Guuuuurrrllll I know those women in that audience is looking at him sideways... Whew.... @@gwen3277
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You need help. He’s an admitted cheater in a marriage. This entire comment is buffoonery
From what he is saying and she has agreed with everything he said she is the one starting all the violence in their household. Women need to stop thinking it is ok to hit or harm a man and then turn around and act like a victim when he defends himself. They both need to coparent and not be in a relationship with each other...
My kids were 17 and 16 when their father moved in because we was having another baby. All it took was for him to raise his voice at me one time, became disrespectful, and disrupt my kids peace, and he was out! Period! I would never mess with my kids psych just have a man in the house.
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That ain't the full story stop capping 🗣
Raised his voice once? Did you ever raise yours?
The fuck did i just read. I would be embarassed to even type this ghetto disaster😂😂😂
@@SonicBoomC98 quite sure she did, but that was ok
you can literally see her husbands demeanor change as they keep talking. they both genuinely needed help and to tell each other how they felt without it escalating like that in front of those babies.
She seems to have so much sense. Unfortunately sometimes toxicity just takes hold of individuals and it’s sad. I wish the best for the both of them even if they’re not together
If she had sense she wouldn’t have dealt with a baby daddy while being a child free women.
@@TGFriosania23That part.
I’m sure she’ll move on after he puts about 5 more babies in her like my Dad with my Mom & spent most of her years despising him & passed most of that toxicity & pain on to us. R.I.H. The scars our parents leave behind. Smh.
If she had sense she wouldn't put her hands on people.
@@TGFriosania23 she wasn’t child free, she has a 13 year old son by another man. Definitely would be sensible not to abuse your partner though.
I love Karamo, he is so sincere and transparent with helping people.
Hi demi
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This man really loves her and he's finna cry. Because he don't wanna leave but he know he's risking his life.
And shes risking hers
He doesn’t love her if he cheated multiple times. Y’all are delusional
@@jadalockett2412she beats on him. If a woman did the same, they would say, she needed comfort and sought it . Men feel too
@@jadalockett2412 then why get back with him and do it all over again. Mmm… she jumps on him first and tried to stab him that’s not love either
He’s a victim of abuse. I hope he realizes that. That was never said explicitly, and it should’ve been
Just listen...they are both abusive...hes some great guy hes a prison bum..
@@Babysuggs-holy and she’s not?
@@angelacarlisle1708 No they're not. They never used to fight. She puts his hands on him and he defends himself. She nearly killed him when she STABBED him. He's a victim of abuse.
I think he handled this beautifully.
The lack of accountability from this woman is insane. I see her trying to change but she doesn’t want to be judged. This just shows how no matter what gender you are you can be abusive.
Women are usually the abuser
I don’t like how Karamo didn’t say anything about her hitting him but was ready to call him a women beater.
It's already double standards off top but with Karamo
It's icing on the cake
I wonder why 💅🏽🤔
Because he trying to be a woman his self 😊
What do you mean? He definitely held her accountable even when she tried to make it a joke he let her know how serious it was.
@@sashab9899 if that was a man he would of chewed him out. He barely glanced over her bad behavior. This is the problem with ALOT of black women. Always acting clueless!
Did you not listen correctly he did mention it...hes some great guy 2 and a half years in prison..hes such an angel..
It’s the fact it’s black women in these comments talking about her hair like it’s not a bigger deal than her hair right now. Not to mention ; this woman is truly beautiful. It’s sickening how much the black community will attack eachother yet we will attck another race for doing it to us. If we gone stick together that’s what it needs to be ; otherwise we are proving them all right; that we can’t. This woman is saying he’d children hear and see her getting abused and y’all care about her wig ? 😭🤦🏾♀️ disgusting. Then some of the women commenting about don’t got nothing on her…. Like bffr. It’s the audacity for me. Then this woman isn’t a victim either because she puts her hands on him too ; so we need to be encouraging them to separate and heal for themselves and if it’s gods will come back together healthy. People are focused on the wrong things and it’s crazy.
This is the comment!! 🙏🏿
#FACTS
I only seen one comment but that’s crazy
Hate that for us, tear each other down, then downplay it when called out
Your comment should be written in capitalized letters & pinned above all the other comments.
Thank YOU for your courage to tell it like it is!👈🏾🙏🏾⌨️💬
she needs help. She need to talk to someone soon. Praying for this young family
I don't know why women come on this show and make it seem like the guy they're with are so abusive. This just proves that she has an issues and she has abusive tendencies. I'm glad Karamo recognized it and is offering them both help. It's all about accountability and it takes two to tangle.
What also bothered me is that he said he always walks away. That's what men are told to do, but it doesn't work with women like her. Walking away just makes her more furious and she puts hands on him, instead of letting him walk away.
Literally
They.both have ....and one reason they are on if you didnt pay attention was he was denying his kids 🙄 like a lot of these so called men do..plus he didnt get sent down for over 2yrs for being a freakin choir boy
You know what I hate hypocritical parents that say they want there children to be in healthy relationship and yet refuse to be a role model for a healthy relationship.
If you want to protect a child learn how to protet your well health and wellbeing first so your child knows right from wrong.
I will never understand these people who constantly accuse there partner of cheating and yet don't leave.
People like this don't want a relationship they only want to drama. If they wanted a relationship, they would done something immediately to find out the truth instead of draggings out.
I mean if you're willing to kill me I don't think cheating is a huge stretch. Just saying, if my partner tries to murder me I wouldn't feel very secure. But hey that's me 🤷🏿♂️
Its not easy when you actual care for or love the person in your life, if they truly are important to you it is hard in most cases to walk away especially if you devoted time to the relationship wheter it a friend family or itimate partner
He knows she not cheating (my opinion though) but the fact they are putting hands on each other is disturbing-the fact of stabbing him with a knife. I’m glad Karamo always try’s to get to the root of the problem. I hope they go to counseling for everyone’s sake. 13, 1 year old, and 7months- they are worth it! ❤
She puts her hands on him and he defends himself
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How would he know she not cheating? She was in another relationship while he was locked, which is fine, but that makes him question if he’s the dad.
...And his 9 year old daughter
@@goeadIf he questioned being the dad then he should have asked for the test instead of constantly accusing her of cheating or denying the children. I hope the children never overheard him denying being their father. Plus he gets upset if she comes in late but he does it.
I don’t know when he went to prison or what for but he should recognize he played a part in creating that situation by leaving her and the children in a financial bind. his children still need to eat while he’s locked up. She needs to go to rehab and learn to keep her hands to herself.
It's a pattern that needs to be stopped. Hopefully Karamo can help you guys before this destroys the family! Aloha from Hawaii....
She stabbed him and is the one who can’t keep her hands to herself! Like SIR! I mean I have been pretty ticked at folks in my past and never thought to hurt them! Maybe get away from them and not hear from them but seriously who stabbing someone you truly love!
Unfortuntely, Ive been there. Provoking or hitting a man thinnking because you're a woman he wont hit you back or he shouldnt. Until I learned to control myself I lived in toxicity. I am praying for them❤
😂😂😂😂😂😂 You control yourself when he knocked the s*** out of you. That's when you realized you learned that day.
I'm glad for your healing. It's never good to stay in a toxic state of mind.
12:10. O am DYING at Dude in green a shirt did the road runner neck stick out like wtf when she said "i took him to the hospital tho"
Right! 🤭😅 He was truly appalled!
I really appreciate how he tries to help both parties. He never is hard on his guest.I respect his views. I pray for his success. Thank you for how you are.Youre helping alot of people.
I'm so glad she decided to get the help. The generational curse will be broken. Good job. 🙌🏽🙌🏽🙌🏽
I like that Karamo kept listening to figure out who the agressor was. He didn't judge or joke with either of them and was genuinely serious about them fixing or abandoning that behavior for themselves and for their kids. Love Karamo
This one gave me a headache. I hate that some people expose children to this type of mess.
Karamo glossing over her stabbing him is ridiculous. If this was vice versa there wouldnt even be talks about work it out, the conversation would be “get the hell out of there”. The double standards are crazy. And for everyone about to defend her they literally both agreed he hit her back in self defense when she gets physical first. If youre going to be a therapist you Dont allow your own trauma to be the foundation of biased advice.
This. Like what even is the conversation after someone tries to kill you or seriously injury you it’s time to leave. Likewise if you’re so angry and distraught that it makes you violent then get some help and leave that man alone. I don’t agree with how this was handled.
No he did not. He called her out and said that's not funny. When she gave her excuse he called out the excuse.
The advice for them to walk away from the relationship and focus on themselves is addressing the violence matter
These two love each other. Her drinking alcohol and partying is more damaging than her violence. He needs to stay off the streets and stay solid. This couple clearly love each other but dislike any hint of disloyalty from the other. She is more passionate about the relationship than he is, hence the alcohol and violence. He needs to be sturdy for them both.
Thank you, Karamo ❤
These families need your counsel in a non judgmental space.
He is not the aggressor (it doesn’t dispute the fact that he cheated) but I really think when they argue she goes into defense mode when he gets angry because she is still traumatized from her last relationship (being physically abused). Him being angry triggers her and she thinks he’s going to hit her just like the last man did , even if he didn’t abuse her before he went to prison. She definitely needs more therapy and I think he has a right to defend himself if she puts her hands on him. I don’t think he should necessarily use closed fist but as far as shoving her off of him yes.
Hes violent as well..hes a cheater...hes an ex con and he was disputing his kids...wow such a stand up guy 🙄
@@angelacarlisle1708 She attempted to murder him. Case closed.
I love how Karamo keeps it real & keeps both parties accountable for their behavior.
Is there a bias towards women in this comment section? He’s fowl for putting hands on her. BUT SHE STABBED HIM heading towards his heart and had to go to hospital. What do you mean?! She has a drinking problem and had another abusive man around her babies when he was in prison. The lady needs help and so does he. My goodness I feel for them babies! All of them. What they’ve witnessed in life
Thank you
This is so sad for their babies. This girl said they “fist fight”, that’s CRAZY. I hate to see young people like this, I hope they get help. They really seem beautiful at their hearts. ♥️
she gets drunk - they argue - he talks aggressively- that triggers the abuse from the other guy- she fight him- he fights back
i understand it now
Or he talks aggressive because she attacks him
Or he is agressive...and a cheater and an ex con...such a stand up guy and he disputed his kids such a little choir boy 🙄
@@angelacarlisle1708quit denying the abuse he faces just because he’s a man, go cry with your story
None of us truly knows! Either way this shit is toxic..He's no Saint and neither is she
SHE beats him!
And they fight!
That is not a man simply abusing a woman.
She lied!!
Both abussive plus hes a cheater and an ex con..such a good little choir boy 🙄
Karamo truly cares about helping people and doesn't hold back
She’s so pretty ..I hope they grow up and raise those children together.
She is NOT ATTRACTIVE, esp with that AGGRESSIVE ATTITUDE & PARTY CITY WIG😖
I hope they split they are toxic together plus hes a cheater
They both have admitted to putting their hands on each other. Elizer seems like he is dealing with emotional pain and like his pain was overlooked. He just seems like he needs someone to pamper him and make him feel safe and secure so he can let himself be vulnerable and heal from whatever seems to be weighing heavy on his spirit. People always assume that men of color are made of stone. Hope they both get a chance to find peace and happiness in their lives.
There is only one race the human race and good and bad in all humans out there.
I agree
He was defending himself when she tried to kill him. Anyways, he does seem hurt and looks like he needs a long and tight hug.
She knew what was toxic before she laid down and had a baby with him 😒
I guess you don’t listen to the entire video lol. She’s the aggressor 🙄
@@CMichelleWhite I’m not talking about the physical fights 🤣I’m talking about him cheating she knew what type of man he was before she had a baby 💯but thankyou for your input
@@CMichelleWhitebruh they both toxic period .
If we’re having an argument and it’s escalating beyond a certain point, ima walk away. We can come back when we’re calmer, able to effectively use our words. If I try to leave and you start trying to prevent me from leaving, you damn skippy ima try to ward you off so I can leave. I’m not saying ima just start swinging all sporadically, intentionally trying to cause you harm, but if I wanna leave I should be able to leave. I can honestly understand trying to get someone off of you so that you can leave and deescalate the problem. But abuse is not ok period, from either party
Karamo Love the lapels you were on your suits and really appreciate your insight you have on situations and most of all the love you show your guess
I have two sons nd two daughters nd I tell them dont put ur hands on nobody nd dont allow nobody to put their hands on you !!
Period.
Karamo= no judgement. Love this: it’s because of judgments that folks be afraid to address their issues. No cap: We either have been here or have family members that have. I hope they take you up on that offer they deserve and their kids deserve better out of life. ❤❤❤❤❤❤
I loved how Karamo addressed this. I love this man's content. So realistic and he tries his all to solve the issue. It's not just about entertainment. She needs serious help,
Karmo does a great job with situations
He knows she's not cheating but he's also knows she's not going anywhere. He just uses her for her energy!
Typical woman comment! But u didn't see the part where she is the agressor of domestic violence in thier home and stabbed him with a knife which nearly took his life.
Again....she is an abusive drunk. He needs to leave her!
@@lynneeshadukes7289and he’s notttttttt?
Did you watch the whole thing? Sounds like you're projecting.
@@charx9149 I wonder who hurt u 🤣😂..?
No one outside the relationship can say 100% guarantee you know a person isn't or is cheating. Period!
Move away from toxic relationships.
Non fighting before prison but fighting after prison.
Fighting after the abusive previous relationship. Family & individual therapy/counseling is needed, if not required.
Some people love toxic relationship !!!
People are usually the products of their environment. I honestly feel bad for the both of them. Her mother modeled to her that abuse is normal. The guy seems to have issues with infidelity but he doesn’t seem to be the abusive type. She seems like the aggressor. Either way I really hope that they get the help that they need. I will say it again and again that Karamo is exactly what the black community needed!🙏🏾
She’s wrong and i’m so mad seeing his pain being overlooked ! He’s suffering
Karamo was ready until He found out She is the Problem.
Who is addicted to watching karamo show
As a mother you don't know what your daughter is doing how do you know wether a woman cheats or not, her mother needs to stay in her place
She see things 🙄
@@angelacarlisle1708 Are you the mom or the sister or a close relative? You seem way too invested in this. If you are then please get your daughter therapy. She needs to heal from her deep rooted issues, this will help her to be a healthier and better human being. It will help her to be a better mom to her kids. She deserves to be better.
This is the perfect example that there is always two sides to the story. Yes the husband is wrong for denying the children were not his. We hear the wife’s side of the story and her mother’s version of the husband being physically abusive only to find out that it’s the wife is who is actually the physical aggressor and apparently an alcoholic. Karamo asked the husband “Why don’t you walk away instead of putting your hands on her?” He responds, “I do walk away. I don’t like to argue. But she comes after me and attacks me! I get tired of being hit and I have to fight back! She even stabbed me!” Her response was, “well I took him to the hospital!” This woman is dillusionable! Her mother thinks it’s ok for her to hit him but he doesn’t have the right to hit back. I don’t advise anyone to stay in an abusive relationship. Yes they both need counseling and anger management. But they don’t need to be together. This woman comes from family of abuse. She’s been in other abusive relationships. And she brings her history with her. She will never be in a safe relationship until she deal with her own demons. And her mother needs to stay in her lane. In the end the husband is the one being abused. This is sad. They both need help.
The reason they fight is because that’s the only way they know how to communicate
This is a two person problem and I'm happy Karamo brought that to the forefront.
I love Karamo! There is nothing like Black pain; being understood by other Black people from similar backgrounds! Thank you Karamo! ❤❤❤❤❤
No judgement here Sis, I appreciate you so much for coming on the show that takes a lot o guts so thank you Sis, you helping so many people - to #healourcommunity. Peace and blessings Family. Thank you Karamo!
The education/communication level is beyond me! Have mercy
I hope they can work it out!
MY SISTER FROM ANOTHER MOTHER, YOU JUST HEARD WHAT MUM SAID.... COME ON WALK WALK.... YOU ARE IN THAT RELATIONSHIP ALONE SIS. MOVE ON DARLING ❤
People act like there is only one type of abuse when there are multiple . Some of them include physical, emotional, financial and verbal. They are both abusers. I think they should separate and seek individual counseling. Maybe after they deal with their personal issues they can make it work together.
He knew damn well he’s the father. She needs to divorce his ass and move on he’s a clown
I wonder if that’s all you took from this? That he knew he was the father. She should divorce him. And that he’s a clown?
@@simone6803ok? your point?
She’s a damn clown too. They both just want to be on TV!
She a violent drunk nobody going to seriously want her.
@@xan8123 Is there a bias towards women in this comment section? He’s fowl for putting hands on her. BUT SHE STABBED HIM heading towards his heart and had to go to hospital. She has a drinking problem and had another abusive man around her babies when he was in prison. The lady needs help and so does he. I feel for them babies! All of them. What they’ve witnessed in life
She got used to the other man abusing her… maybe she liked the attention or she feels that if she hit him, he will act right. 😢
Right on Karmo, please help them that fighting just mess up the kids, traumatize them. I’m so proud of you for breaking free being successful in helping others. I love your show. I love you too❤️❤️❤️
Praying for these 2 and their kids 🙏🏾
These type of relationships make me not want one. Seems like so many couples are so toxic nowadays and the drama is so not necessary. If you're that unhappy, just leave. My son learned an ex was cheating and immediately left her that same day he found out...no looking back, no physical fights. So yea, just leave and let it go. So many people make too many excuses not to🤦🏽♀️🤷🏽♀️
She’s the abuser. We can say all day he shouldn’t be hitting her but at some point he has to defend himself. She needs therapy and AA.
As someone who has been in an abusive relationship (on both ends). This one triggered me too. His lack of accountability is ASTOUNDING. They both just need to let it go & coparent. I love how Karamo handles these situations. He’s really a gem.
Hell mines was a full-blown narcissist I definitely felt this episode smh
What?? What did he not be honest about? He admitted what he did, but she wouldn’t even directly say she drinks a lot and starts fights.
I find it funny how y’all turn a blind eye to domestic abuse against men. She was putting her hands on him like that’s was a fight that she could handle and then he reacted back. Men shouldn’t lay their hands on a woman and the same goes for women to men. I think she need to hold her self accountable putting her hands on a man.
@@phasekasumi4459That's my thing... to say he doesn't take accountability, but *completely* ignore him saying she stabbed him by his heart and he almost died. That he only fights back, not beat her for shits and giggles... When he walks away from the arguing, she attacks. And none of it started until she got out of the relationship with the guy that was beating her while he was in jail. They're both toxic for each other and need to separate, but to only find fault in him, is just stupid.
@@phasekasumi4459 I didn’t turn a blind eye to anything. He lied at first, Karamo had to drag it out of him. I don’t agree that women should just be able to hit on men but it’s obvious what’s going on whether yall wanna admit it or not.
Why do people go on tv rather than just handle their business privately???
She said her two children was 1 years old and 7 months….🧐🧐🧐😒😒
He shoud leave her before things get worse... She seems to be the toxic aggressor that starts fights with him. He tries to avoid confrontation but she can't handle that. The two of the together is a recipe for disaster.
This made me so emotional. It’s so much anger & hurt in this world & I just wish everyone could be released of their pain😭 I don’t justify any violent actions but when she said she wants to talk but I scared of being judged I just wanted to hug her. he is a respectable man tho you can’t lie. people can only be pushed so far & he held on as long as he could. I really hope they both find peace within their babies
One think I like about him he never picks sides of either person he hears them both out and talks to them with the same respect
That guy is very good at his job I'm pretty sure he has other clients outside of who gets invited to the show.
@@nathanielbillings8I somewhat agree BUT I have seen some bias; he tends to take the side of adult children AGAINST their parents, no matter the situation nor how DISRESPECTFUL OR HOSTILE the kids are...
Bless you Karamo
he knew those are his kids we was the one cheating .
9:09 FASTEST REVELA EVER!!!!!! LOL🤣🤣🤣😂😂😂😂
I believe they can work it out but they got to keep the hands to themselves period. Blessings.
When the crowd clapped for her talking about “you a man” I’m sitting here like 🤨 if he’s a man don’t put your hands on him… I’ma firm believer of if you put your hands on somebody regardless of the gender be ready to fight.
No. Especially not your woman. You don't use your full strength, or you'll see which side the law takes real fast.
@@crazymusicgrlcheesecake That’s domestic abuse against a man… probably women should feel like that they can challenge a man. He literally said that he could’ve lost his life to her.
am i wrong for no matter what sex you are if you put your hands on someone they have the right to hit you back. “self defense, girl”
That's how I raised my now adult kids too..Had no issues so far thank eff 🙏
She is the abuser!! He is trying2 get out..but she attacked him.
Get real...they are both in the wrong..hes such a good guy 🤔 good guys dont get sent down for 2 and a half years 🙄
He’s with her cause he doesn’t wanna pay child support. If he doesn’t have to pay child support he wants a divorce.
Now she need to take her children and move on from him her point has been proven..she need to listen to her beautiful MaMa!!! Let him go honey find peace for yourself and your children go b happy let real love respect come your way in due time..💖💖💖😇😇😇
They don’t understand, Karamo is a mandated reporter…. If they don’t agree to make a change, he is legally obliged to report this…. They need to CHANGE
If I was that slow girl, I would have ended the marriage on stage right after getting those results.
Sorry mom, but she is not leaving anytime soon. She's busy trying to prove to her cheating husband, that keeps threatening her with divorce, that she is faithful and that the kids are his, so that she can remain in her abusive marriage.
Mama said a mouth full🙌🙌🙌🙌🙌
He looks like those yard Jamaicans gangsters from Kingston....😂😂😂😂
His eyes so pretty
Karmo definitely reading the comments ❤️ he changed his approach to men abuse and I love it
Bout time
He's been placing blame on both don't do that
@@DejGarrett normally he’ll bypass what the women do and only focus on the man's side
His face is telling he is a 100 procent player-
So is someone does this to your son, stabbing him and all?? It’s not to portray someone as a abusive partner knowing they are really defending themselves. Just because your a woman doesn’t mean you can put your hands on someone. It’s not right.
I find all the smiling immature, especially in this situation & let’s hope the smile stays in 60/70years when he’s by himself in the care home