For those interested in the full podcast you can check it out by clicking this link. Thanks for watching and listening! thehuntingpublic.podbean.com/e/proof-that-no-buck-is-nocturnal-wbronson-strickland-and-steve-demarais-of-mississippi-state-university/
I’ve been hunting over 30 years. I’ve developed some very successful habits. First is I act like a buck when other hunters are in an area. I get the hell away from them and go up and deep. Also I scan a ridge and a valley and many times if I have a ladder or a climber or natural blind I will run to my spot in hopes of attracting noise for curious deer to come see what I am. In many cases they come running thinking I’m another deer . They’re very social creatures and to their detriment I capitalize on that. I’ve studied deer body language regarding their social skills. It’s hard to sneak up an a bedded buck because he’s not asleep he’s alert always. But I’ve gotten close by moving super slow and quiet. I usually don’t walk/stalk unless the leaves are wet and quiet. When they’re noisy I’ll try to come in as quiet as possible but I would start a run to a ladder in hopes of attracting curious deer. It worked for me many times. I also pay attention to noises and activities of other animals, birds and even bugs because they will alert you to large creatures moving in the woods. Also I’ve noticed something that I would love for wildlife biologists to study and that is the fact that when I’m hunting when the mosquitos are still active it never fails that when I’m straining to listen and pinpoint a noise of a possible deer I always always get a mosquito buzz my freaking ear hole. I think our body puts off a certain hormone or something that attracts mosquitos when we try to increase our sense of hearing. Call me nuts but it’s just one observation I have. I’ve taken many notes from conditions and observations of my hunts for years and think when I’m dead and gone my grandchildren will have some very interesting material to read….especially if they hunt. The thing that really pisses me off as a hunter is baiting deer with corn. They made it legal in north Ga and now everyone does it. It’s really hard as a hunter that hunts many private properties to get deer to leave the neighboring feeders. I just refuse to hunt over bait and it just cheapens the idea of actually hunting when you’re shooting fish in a barrel.
Spend enough time in the woods listening & learning instead of expecting, & you learn quick how to follow them, not pressure, & eventually become more aware, respectful, & acknowledging of wildlife..you'll be surprised that you can become "normal" presence..but this takes TIME & being a clearly known, non conflictive presence..deer survive by curiosity & dossier of routine, any change from it is PRESSURE. KNOWN FACTORS & ACTORS are reassuring. I "soft stalk", pass, turn to acknowledge the animal I passed..then move away slowly .. making it not worthwhile for deer to run..if they DON'T have to move, they feel more secure in not drawing their own attention. Bedded deer usually don't get up as other deer pass..act more like a deer or another attentive, non conflictive animal, they will not expose themselves & waste energy unnecessarily. It's a build up process, but gold when you discover their ways & individual routines. When you see wild deer every time you go out, & know who's where & what's going on..& can soft contact as routine..you have it made.. Best thing I ever did for education was follow deer..
I really appreciate how you guys go the extra mile to educate the viewers on each video instead of just showing quick kills with little info like most other channels
I had the same reaction or observation rather. Notice that he said “most”. It’s definitely an skill set that has to be worked on, even though some are more natural.
I think alot of that has to do with the universal attitude of instant gratification instead of people not having the ability. Work ethic, patience and persistence are found in fewer people everyday. To develop those skills you need all three.
Thrilled to hear this talk. I am a biologist working to restore bobwhite habitat in South Carolina. The response of deer to habitats managed for wild quail is positive and unmistakable. Screening cover created by diverse herbaceous plant community offers (literally) tons of high quality forage during the growing season and bedding cover year around. That herbaceous plant community depends on sunlight and fire, as you guys pointed out.
I hunt northern WI which entails national forest public land. The feds didn't like to cut mature stands of forest. In 2019 we had straight line winds that took out thousands of acres in Oconto and Langlade county. Now that they have had to cut to clean up the destruction zone deer numbers are finally increasing and the amount of forage the deer have has increased substantially. Thanks for the info and love these kind of videos.
My father told me when I was 7-8……hunt fields and open woods to kill does and young bucks. If you want to kill a mature buck hunt where you hunt rabbits. I’ve killed an untold number of mature bucks in my 60+ years of hunting. Thanks Dad for your wise advise.
@@patspangler2351that’s awesome tho man. I just got back into hunting this year, hunting archery only. And I want to learn it all, I started mid November, hunting mainly public land and one private farm. Only seen 8 doe, shot at one but missed. Bow was shooting to the left about 6 inches and got it fixed now I’m middle bullseye and of course I’m not seeing any 😂
As someone new to animal habitat management, their life cycles, feeding, bedding and hunting strategies, etc. And as a new property owner (it's not much, 25ac in central MO), this has been one of the most enlightening videos I've seen! And now I'm filled with ideas on how I can better develop my land so the deer, turkey and other animals have a quality living experience when on my property. Thank you!
Thanks for all the great information and for educating us on these in depth deer hunting studies! I find these topics super interesting and valuable and I appreciate you guys putting out great content year round! Keep up the great work boys, by far the best channel on the tube!
I tried to this morning, and couldn't do it. I bumped him in the thick on the other side of my food plot. It was raining with about an inch of snow on the ground. I gave it about 1/2 hr, then followed till he hit a crazy thick hell hole that there was no way I could get through subtly. I've got his zone at least, gonna go back in a few days.
Thank you for making this type of content. There is always plenty to be learned. I strive to learn something every time I get to hunt and if possible every trip into the field or forest.
It’s amazing how big bucks live in my area in northwest pa. I think the swamp and thicket has a big part in helping them survive. Just so much hunting pressure tree stands everywhere but they still make it
Deer Dr.’s Demarais & Strickland were awesome guests to have on! They shared some valuable deer movement Intell thanks to Arron and Zach’s Q’s. Along with nocturnal buck movements, we’d be really interested in hearing about telemetry studies on buck movements during the rut, weather fronts, extreme wind, and average distance traveled between bedding and feeding areas, if studies exist. Thanks THP for making us students of our passion. And Zach, your quad and calf muscles explain your monkey abilities climbing up and down hills with ease!💪🏼🦌👍
This is fantastic! We hunt a ton of very remote public land in northern MN and are fortunate that the pressure is low- so the deer are not super skittish.
I loved the MSU deer lab UA-cam videos on deer bedding. Very informative especially for Southern hunters. Their videos don't have many views though. Not sure why
This is a cool episode. In my opinion, good habitat management is diversity on the landscape. Having a thick bedding are, an edge, open woods, etc is great
Probably one of the most informative videos dealing with pressured deer I have ever seen/heard. Good job guys. I got new property this year have a couple pics of a stud and I did not get to access property until Late September and it's thick. Trying to go in sparingly to see where to set up with out pushing him off the property. Good stuff.
Excellent video. I have been hunting on public land for over 40 years. I incorporate the hunting pressure toy advantage through many techniques. I can also say that I have taken deer in some weird places. One that comes to mind is an industrial park. It was a circular wooded area in the middle of a paved circle. It was across from a hunting plantation in SC. The bucks were in there heavy. I went in on a hunch that paid off.
I spend à lot of time scouting every year. Lately it's been all public land. Through that I've seen an enormous laking in land management . Î'm at the point now where I wonder if it would work to do a "adopt à public area" senario much like the "adopt à highway" programs out there.
@@karlwellendorf763 problem is with that people get the "I own this spot" attitude. You think grown men can be friends and understand it's PUBLIC land that they're working on, but they cant. They'll invest a ton of time into making "their spot" the way they want in and freak out when they find another truck there. I live in very south alabama and have a 27,000 acre WMA 10 minutes from my house that is bow only except for 4 weekends a year. The entire 4 month bow season I saw only 2 or 3 other hunters and I hunted 3-4 days a week. There's not enough hunters these days for the land to get the attention it needs it would seem
Depends on the state your in and the kind of public youre on, for quality of public land management. Im in Pennsylvania, and theres state gameland, which is supposed to be geared towards hunters, but i prefer state forest land, which is does state managed forest, and tends to have better game and nicer habitats
I'm from Michigan, a hunter per 75 acres is low pressure around here. I've seen 5 guys on 30 acres of private, 15-20 hunters on 200-500 acres of state land
There was a study done in central PA on one collared buck and the week before rifle season (during bear season) from the age of 3-7 he would relocate to this one mountain laurel ridge and barely move for the month. Every single year, same exact spot right before gun season and hunker down
Glad you had these guys on. The MSU Deer Lab does such a great job of gathering and sharing information with whitetail deer here in the south. Hail State!
That's very informative. Looking forward to more of these in the future. It's a lot of information for me to remember, but all of what they said makes total sense as to why my arrow hasn't gone through a buck in quite some time!
I love the conversation about cover& food terrain.. & leaf/twig browse..deer eat forbs PRIMARILY as spring summer foods, balanced with all other bits .. satiation & cravings conversation key point..forbs & fungi so important for "stockpiling" nutrients in marrow & body mass
pennsylvania game commission did a similiar gps study with deer and hunters, they found hunting pressure made the bucks go up to the mountain ridges, cuz most hunters arent gonna travel too far nor hunt arduously in steep terrain
Winter time they go for green green green. At keast in my area if there is pines they eat sll the kow hanging needles. All the wild roses, chewed up. All of it.
I really appreciate and enjoy these educational type videos with these guys, Jeff Sturgis and others. This is very important to being a more consistently successful hunter is knowing your quarry’s behavior. 🏹🦌
Amazing video. Just when you think your on top of the hunting game there always someone there to say OKAY NOW LETS START OVER AT CLASS 101. Wow. Lol. I’m starting next week to hit some really great state land here in upstate New York that’s sarounded by tons of ag land . This gave me the confidence I needed. Thank you so much. I’m on my second year of food plots and no big deer. The chase is on. Good luck this year.
Re-thinking hunting strategies this season. Planted two food plots last year- turnips, radishes, beets and monitored with trail cameras. Plots were lush and green late summer, but throughout the hunting season, they just did not seem to have that much draw for deer. We had a good acorn crop for most of the hunting season so that had an affect. Hunting area is composed of, and surrounded by, small wood lots and large open ag fields of corn and beans which are typically harvested before the rut. My goal this year is to allow food plot locations and edge areas to grow up in tall weeds and simply create areas for deer to travel and hide. The farm was in CRP for two years until last year and the amount of trophy bucks (3 1/2 to 4 1/2) on the property was staggering during those CRP years. Land owner leased the property out to farmer last year, which created a food rich, no place to travel or hide environment. Almost all trophy buck pictures were at night. With CRP cover, I was getting daytime pics of them. Also, as soon as velvet comes off, the bucks just about abandon the salt licks.
I would watch Jeff Sturgis. Those bucks are on another property in daylight. There is probably tons of does, pushing pressure on the bucks into other property. If you let it grow up you may see less does, but bucks might start using the property in daylight. Remember, daylight bucks are all that matters, consider those night time ones nonexistent. I am no expert but I study Jeff Sturgis’s videos a ton. Heck I don’t even own private land, I am public only. But I sure try to learn for the future!
@@slugoo6474 Yes. I have watched a lot of his videos. Lots of good information. If I had to choose food or cover for hunting during the daylight, cover would win. If it is not present, have to create it, or hunt somewhere else. I spent a lot of hours last season hunting public because acorn crop was so good. A lot of action.
@@Kurtdog63 I wish you luck. What state are you in? In NC we had a massive crop of acorns in 2020. Made hunting public hard with all the food that was everywhere. It feels weird to hope for an acorn drought but that’s easiest to hunt if you find the oaks that are dropping.
@@slugoo6474 Kentucky. We are allowed to bait here. If acorns scarce on public, you can hardly buy a deer because they are all hanging close to ag and corn piles on private. I hunt public areas that are hard to get to away from adjacent ag because of the easy access to public land from private.
As a retired Deer Biologist from La, I know Steve DeMarris personally to be a TOP Research Biologist from Mississippi State University and regard him as a Deer Hunters Friend! Steve is the "Real Deal"!
Thanks for the great video! In all my years of hunting I've found that you sit tight against the thick and swampy stuff and you'll be successful...maybe not on your time though! That buck only needs a 3 foot dry patch to bed on.
That’s really interesting information, I seen something similar scouting this spring as I marked trailing a certain bucks rubs and scrapes on onx and he totally avoided this guys stand area and stayed completely in the thick edge with his aggressive sign and never reached up to the stand a guy hung.
Love the content guys cant wait for the stuff with ranch fairy and if possible could you let us know what your schedule looks like for this year as far as the stops on tour go?. Thanks again guys for sharing this awesome info cant wait for the next one.
Makes sense as to why I see deer more often visit old hay fields over new seeded hay fields in my area. New seeded hay fields only have about 2 or 3 species compared to a dozen plus in the old. Even though the new seed seems higher quality.
My best buck with a bow, I hitched a ride with the farmer on his tractor who had been seeing a big buck regularly. After he dropped me off it was about 30 minutes later I got him. He was used to the farmer being thete.
great information wonder if it applies across the board where I hunt in Massachusetts its 10 hunters or more per 100 acres. 1 hunter per 75 acres is not high pressure. I would love to see a study in a different scenario
I can show you places in NW Pennsylvania on public land (SGL) Where deer are pawing through the December snow 50 feet behind a parking lot on the edge of the road to get at low level grass & greens below the normal weed growth
Guys this was awesome I’m starting to do some land management this week getting ready for the upcoming season and now I know exactly which direction I wanna go. Keep it up fellas!
I’ve had deer standing in front of me where there is very high hunting pressure that hardly move when gun fire occurs less than 300 yards away. They seem to react the same during thunder. Scent and loud movement through the woods by hunters on foot have the most adverse effects.
My friend Remnar from the UP kills tons of bucks. Yuge thirdy pointers , big as Buicks. Just north of Macinaw at his place called the Soady deer camp. You just got to get out there fellas. Don't get discouraged.
If you can't find them in the woods/swamps try looking in the over grown fields/hayfields golden ron fields found that sometimes they go out there and lay up all day thats where nobody is looking for them try it it just might be where they are at even better look in the over grown apple orchards
Great controlled study almost exactly what some of figured.Returning to normal within a week is unusual,for those bowhunters who follow a very high pressured gunseason afterwards.I think it often takes a month,until bitter cold in December pushes bucks to forage farther,but still mostly at night. They need to have had cams out on the changes on day movements if much,after gun season.My guess is that the first half hour of light is mostly the only time shootable,after the first few days of heavy gunshooting.Sitting in or near the usual bedding areas may extend that to an hour after light.
Cut a narrow path through a large dense thicket in the summer. Leave it alone for a few months leading into season. I guarantee it will be a travel corridor that bucks will use all season long.
Great info fellas. I’ll check out the podcast, however, I didn’t hear anything about what time of day they move the most? When did hunting pressure happen (dawn/dusk/afternoon?
How does early season bow season differ from the pressure of gun season? Do the bucks not have to have as thick of cover during bow season maybe since not as much of hunting pressure?
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Full version is on the podcast with much more info. Love it! Can always use more scientific information to make us better hunters!
Which podcast would be? I'd love to check it out.
For those interested in the full podcast you can check it out by clicking this link. Thanks for watching and listening!
thehuntingpublic.podbean.com/e/proof-that-no-buck-is-nocturnal-wbronson-strickland-and-steve-demarais-of-mississippi-state-university/
@@TheHuntingPublic great info
I’m a MSU engineering student I didn’t know we had a deer lab
I’ve been hunting over 30 years.
I’ve developed some very successful habits.
First is I act like a buck when other hunters are in an area.
I get the hell away from them and go up and deep.
Also I scan a ridge and a valley and many times if I have a ladder or a climber or natural blind I will run to my spot in hopes of attracting noise for curious deer to come see what I am.
In many cases they come running thinking I’m another deer .
They’re very social creatures and to their detriment I capitalize on that.
I’ve studied deer body language regarding their social skills.
It’s hard to sneak up an a bedded buck because he’s not asleep he’s alert always.
But I’ve gotten close by moving super slow and quiet.
I usually don’t walk/stalk unless the leaves are wet and quiet.
When they’re noisy I’ll try to come in as quiet as possible but I would start a run to a ladder in hopes of attracting curious deer.
It worked for me many times.
I also pay attention to noises and activities of other animals, birds and even bugs because they will alert you to large creatures moving in the woods.
Also I’ve noticed something that I would love for wildlife biologists to study and that is the fact that when I’m hunting when the mosquitos are still active it never fails that when I’m straining to listen and pinpoint a noise of a possible deer I always always get a mosquito buzz my freaking ear hole.
I think our body puts off a certain hormone or something that attracts mosquitos when we try to increase our sense of hearing.
Call me nuts but it’s just one observation I have.
I’ve taken many notes from conditions and observations of my hunts for years and think when I’m dead and gone my grandchildren will have some very interesting material to read….especially if they hunt.
The thing that really pisses me off as a hunter is baiting deer with corn.
They made it legal in north Ga and now everyone does it.
It’s really hard as a hunter that hunts many private properties to get deer to leave the neighboring feeders.
I just refuse to hunt over bait and it just cheapens the idea of actually hunting when you’re shooting fish in a barrel.
I hunt in North Texas private and public, bow only. I've noticed the bucks never come to my feeders, only doe do.
Spend enough time in the woods listening & learning instead of expecting, & you learn quick how to follow them, not pressure, & eventually become more aware, respectful, & acknowledging of wildlife..you'll be surprised that you can become "normal" presence..but this takes TIME & being a clearly known, non conflictive presence..deer survive by curiosity & dossier of routine, any change from it is PRESSURE. KNOWN FACTORS & ACTORS are reassuring. I "soft stalk", pass, turn to acknowledge the animal I passed..then move away slowly .. making it not worthwhile for deer to run..if they DON'T have to move, they feel more secure in not drawing their own attention. Bedded deer usually don't get up as other deer pass..act more like a deer or another attentive, non conflictive animal, they will not expose themselves & waste energy unnecessarily. It's a build up process, but gold when you discover their ways & individual routines.
When you see wild deer every time you go out, & know who's where & what's going on..& can soft contact as routine..you have it made..
Best thing I ever did for education was follow deer..
They should put a gps collar on Zach and track his tortuosity.
This was hilarious.
Haha
I don’t think the graph can go that high
Rolling😂
Hilarious
I really appreciate how you guys go the extra mile to educate the viewers on each video instead of just showing quick kills with little info like most other channels
Good info
Bill and Ted’s Interview with “Deer Socrates.”
😂😂😂
“Most people can’t stalk a buck...” Zach just stares off and tries not to smile!
I had the same reaction or observation rather. Notice that he said “most”. It’s definitely an skill set that has to be worked on, even though some are more natural.
I think alot of that has to do with the universal attitude of instant gratification instead of people not having the ability. Work ethic, patience and persistence are found in fewer people everyday. To develop those skills you need all three.
I read an article in Field & Stream around the year 2000, it was called “the man who touches deer” I was a very interesting read
Killed 2 of my 4 biggest stalk hunting other 2 from stands ..north east missouri can't beat it quality bucks
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Thrilled to hear this talk. I am a biologist working to restore bobwhite habitat in South Carolina. The response of deer to habitats managed for wild quail is positive and unmistakable. Screening cover created by diverse herbaceous plant community offers (literally) tons of high quality forage during the growing season and bedding cover year around. That herbaceous plant community depends on sunlight and fire, as you guys pointed out.
Just seen a wild covey here in Florence SC yesterday.
I hunt northern WI which entails national forest public land. The feds didn't like to cut mature stands of forest. In 2019 we had straight line winds that took out thousands of acres in Oconto and Langlade county. Now that they have had to cut to clean up the destruction zone deer numbers are finally increasing and the amount of forage the deer have has increased substantially. Thanks for the info and love these kind of videos.
My father told me when I was 7-8……hunt fields and open woods to kill does and young bucks. If you want to kill a mature buck hunt where you hunt rabbits. I’ve killed an untold number of mature bucks in my 60+ years of hunting. Thanks Dad for your wise advise.
And where do you hunt rabbits? Asking for a friend
@@bombzdeep4475 I don't anymore......just sold the family farm....sorry
@@patspangler2351that’s awesome tho man. I just got back into hunting this year, hunting archery only. And I want to learn it all, I started mid November, hunting mainly public land and one private farm. Only seen 8 doe, shot at one but missed. Bow was shooting to the left about 6 inches and got it fixed now I’m middle bullseye and of course I’m not seeing any 😂
@@Toneytwotimes Good luck.....stay after it
@@Toneytwotimes same here just started hunting again
As someone new to animal habitat management, their life cycles, feeding, bedding and hunting strategies, etc. And as a new property owner (it's not much, 25ac in central MO), this has been one of the most enlightening videos I've seen! And now I'm filled with ideas on how I can better develop my land so the deer, turkey and other animals have a quality living experience when on my property.
Thank you!
Thanks for all the great information and for educating us on these in depth deer hunting studies! I find these topics super interesting and valuable and I appreciate you guys putting out great content year round! Keep up the great work boys, by far the best channel on the tube!
I tried to this morning, and couldn't do it. I bumped him in the thick on the other side of my food plot.
It was raining with about an inch of snow on the ground. I gave it about 1/2 hr, then followed till he hit a crazy thick hell hole that there was no way I could get through subtly. I've got his zone at least, gonna go back in a few days.
....but after listening to this, he may be gone. This is my own 80 acre wood lot which from their example is "high pressure".
I'd love to see more content like this from you guys . Hunting videos are cool but I'd rather learn
Thank you for making this type of content. There is always plenty to be learned. I strive to learn something every time I get to hunt and if possible every trip into the field or forest.
It’s amazing how big bucks live in my area in northwest pa. I think the swamp and thicket has a big part in helping them survive. Just so much hunting pressure tree stands everywhere but they still make it
Where ya from garrett Im from a small town in wester pa and there are defin some big bucks around us.
Deer Dr.’s Demarais & Strickland were awesome guests to have on! They shared some valuable deer movement Intell thanks to Arron and Zach’s Q’s. Along with nocturnal buck movements, we’d be really interested in hearing about telemetry studies on buck movements during the rut, weather fronts, extreme wind, and average distance traveled between bedding and feeding areas, if studies exist. Thanks THP for making us students of our passion. And Zach, your quad and calf muscles explain your monkey abilities climbing up and down hills with ease!💪🏼🦌👍
Deer University Podcast is these MSU fellas; good stuff but not super active.
This is fantastic! We hunt a ton of very remote public land in northern MN and are fortunate that the pressure is low- so the deer are not super skittish.
I loved the MSU deer lab UA-cam videos on deer bedding. Very informative especially for Southern hunters. Their videos don't have many views though. Not sure why
Been waiting to watch this since i listened to this podcast! I'm watching and listening again! And btw this should be re-uploaded as the full podcast.
mineral blocks will change deer movements.
What an educational video! So much “simple” knowledge that you wouldn’t think of. Keep them coming. Great job THP!
This is a cool episode. In my opinion, good habitat management is diversity on the landscape. Having a thick bedding are, an edge, open woods, etc is great
This is awesome guys! I clicked as fast as I could. Love this kind of content
Probably one of the most informative videos dealing with pressured deer I have ever seen/heard. Good job guys. I got new property this year have a couple pics of a stud and I did not get to access property until Late September and it's thick. Trying to go in sparingly to see where to set up with out pushing him off the property. Good stuff.
Excellent video. I have been hunting on public land for over 40 years. I incorporate the hunting pressure toy advantage through many techniques.
I can also say that I have taken deer in some weird places.
One that comes to mind is an industrial park. It was a circular wooded area in the middle of a paved circle. It was across from a hunting plantation in SC. The bucks were in there heavy. I went in on a hunch that paid off.
Ty THP I’ve been a long listener to these guys, good to see someone as popular as you guys getting with these ppl. 👍👍👍
Love the content and proud of MSU to share the info with us! Keep ‘‘em coming
Fantastic boys!!! More and more content like this please!! The more we know the better!!🙏🤘🤘🇺🇸🇺🇸🇺🇸
I spend à lot of time scouting every year. Lately it's been all public land. Through that I've seen an enormous laking in land management . Î'm at the point now where I wonder if it would work to do a "adopt à public area" senario much like the "adopt à highway" programs out there.
That would be really cool actually. I agree
I've thought the same kinda thing. Maybe utilize volunteers.
@@karlwellendorf763 problem is with that people get the "I own this spot" attitude.
You think grown men can be friends and understand it's PUBLIC land that they're working on, but they cant.
They'll invest a ton of time into making "their spot" the way they want in and freak out when they find another truck there.
I live in very south alabama and have a 27,000 acre WMA 10 minutes from my house that is bow only except for 4 weekends a year. The entire 4 month bow season I saw only 2 or 3 other hunters and I hunted 3-4 days a week. There's not enough hunters these days for the land to get the attention it needs it would seem
@@johnbracewell3700 Unfortunately, true.
Depends on the state your in and the kind of public youre on, for quality of public land management. Im in Pennsylvania, and theres state gameland, which is supposed to be geared towards hunters, but i prefer state forest land, which is does state managed forest, and tends to have better game and nicer habitats
I love this and i love how you never stop learning when it comes to deer hunting
I'm from Michigan, a hunter per 75 acres is low pressure around here. I've seen 5 guys on 30 acres of private, 15-20 hunters on 200-500 acres of state land
good video boys. this is my first season teaching myself how to hunt.. all off you tube videos like this, reading, and boots on the ground.
Great video. I know have a "to do" list for next winter after the season. Create some holes in the canopy of my woods.
Suggestion: bring pruning shears into every hunt. Snip branches off early season at 3 to 5 ft height. The fresh growth is way more appealing to deer.
Great content I learn something almost every time I watch on of your video. now I have to learn how to apply it here in WNC.
There was a study done in central PA on one collared buck and the week before rifle season (during bear season) from the age of 3-7 he would relocate to this one mountain laurel ridge and barely move for the month. Every single year, same exact spot right before gun season and hunker down
That's cool!
Those must've been some hella good batteries in that gps?
Glad you had these guys on. The MSU Deer Lab does such a great job of gathering and sharing information with whitetail deer here in the south.
Hail State!
Way better than Bone Collecter or anything on the Outdoor channel, THP!
That's very informative. Looking forward to more of these in the future. It's a lot of information for me to remember, but all of what they said makes total sense as to why my arrow hasn't gone through a buck in quite some time!
I love the conversation about cover& food terrain..
& leaf/twig browse..deer eat forbs PRIMARILY as spring summer foods, balanced with all other bits .. satiation & cravings conversation key point..forbs & fungi so important for "stockpiling" nutrients in marrow & body mass
Absolutely fascinating! Thanks for doing this!!!
Very great learning video, much needed, thanks guys!
that was an awesome video! Very informative. It's lighting to deer hunting fire already
I’m 42 I have been hunting 30 year I love the new info
Loved it! Can’t wait to hear about nocturnal deer research
pennsylvania game commission did a similiar gps study with deer and hunters, they found hunting pressure made the bucks go up to the mountain ridges, cuz most hunters arent gonna travel too far nor hunt arduously in steep terrain
Excellent info guys thanks big time!!
Winter time they go for green green green. At keast in my area if there is pines they eat sll the kow hanging needles. All the wild roses, chewed up. All of it.
I really appreciate and enjoy these educational type videos with these guys, Jeff Sturgis and others. This is very important to being a more consistently successful hunter is knowing your quarry’s behavior. 🏹🦌
Absolutely awesome information! I love THP seeking out this golden info for us. They do the work and we learn from it. So thankful.
This was probably one of the most interesting deer hunting videos ever. 👍
Amazing video. Just when you think your on top of the hunting game there always someone there to say OKAY NOW LETS START OVER AT CLASS 101. Wow. Lol. I’m starting next week to hit some really great state land here in upstate New York that’s sarounded by tons of ag land . This gave me the confidence I needed. Thank you so much. I’m on my second year of food plots and no big deer. The chase is on. Good luck this year.
Re-thinking hunting strategies this season. Planted two food plots last year- turnips, radishes, beets and monitored with trail cameras. Plots were lush and green late summer, but throughout the hunting season, they just did not seem to have that much draw for deer. We had a good acorn crop for most of the hunting season so that had an affect. Hunting area is composed of, and surrounded by, small wood lots and large open ag fields of corn and beans which are typically harvested before the rut. My goal this year is to allow food plot locations and edge areas to grow up in tall weeds and simply create areas for deer to travel and hide. The farm was in CRP for two years until last year and the amount of trophy bucks (3 1/2 to 4 1/2) on the property was staggering during those CRP years. Land owner leased the property out to farmer last year, which created a food rich, no place to travel or hide environment. Almost all trophy buck pictures were at night. With CRP cover, I was getting daytime pics of them. Also, as soon as velvet comes off, the bucks just about abandon the salt licks.
I would watch Jeff Sturgis. Those bucks are on another property in daylight. There is probably tons of does, pushing pressure on the bucks into other property. If you let it grow up you may see less does, but bucks might start using the property in daylight. Remember, daylight bucks are all that matters, consider those night time ones nonexistent. I am no expert but I study Jeff Sturgis’s videos a ton. Heck I don’t even own private land, I am public only. But I sure try to learn for the future!
@@slugoo6474 Yes. I have watched a lot of his videos. Lots of good information. If I had to choose food or cover for hunting during the daylight, cover would win. If it is not present, have to create it, or hunt somewhere else. I spent a lot of hours last season hunting public because acorn crop was so good. A lot of action.
@@Kurtdog63 I wish you luck. What state are you in? In NC we had a massive crop of acorns in 2020. Made hunting public hard with all the food that was everywhere. It feels weird to hope for an acorn drought but that’s easiest to hunt if you find the oaks that are dropping.
@@slugoo6474 Kentucky. We are allowed to bait here. If acorns scarce on public, you can hardly buy a deer because they are all hanging close to ag and corn piles on private. I hunt public areas that are hard to get to away from adjacent ag because of the easy access to public land from private.
Fantastic episode! It sounds like a great study and you guys did a great job with the questions. Thanks for such great content!
Zach’s got his stalking shorts on. 🤣
Seriously though, one of the best podcasts I’ve heard in a long time.
As a retired Deer Biologist from La, I know Steve DeMarris personally to be a TOP Research Biologist from Mississippi State University and regard him as a Deer Hunters Friend! Steve is the "Real Deal"!
quality guests..I have watched every single video they put out. Well done Kudos to you..
This was very informative. Kinda chuckled at dude telling Zach to sit on stand and wait.
Awesome episode!
Can’t wait for the next one.
Great video, The MSU deer lab has been doing great work for years.
Awesome content and interesting to hear in these studies these bucks aren’t just headed to the hills once pressure is up
Finally! The collab I was waiting for!
These videos are incredibly fascinating. Answered many questions I've had. Thanks THP
Yes! Great video! Can’t wait to hear more from these guys
This was insanely informative. Keep them coming!
Thanks for the great video! In all my years of hunting I've found that you sit tight against the thick and swampy stuff and you'll be successful...maybe not on your time though! That buck only needs a 3 foot dry patch to bed on.
That’s really interesting information, I seen something similar scouting this spring as I marked trailing a certain bucks rubs and scrapes on onx and he totally avoided this guys stand area and stayed completely in the thick edge with his aggressive sign and never reached up to the stand a guy hung.
Love the content guys cant wait for the stuff with ranch fairy and if possible could you let us know what your schedule looks like for this year as far as the stops on tour go?. Thanks again guys for sharing this awesome info cant wait for the next one.
Makes sense as to why I see deer more often visit old hay fields over new seeded hay fields in my area. New seeded hay fields only have about 2 or 3 species compared to a dozen plus in the old. Even though the new seed seems higher quality.
Not a hunter. yet live with them in my area,such an informative watch Thanks guys. Happy teachings
Wonderful video- I wish I could have watched this sooner. Unfortunately I was unsuccessful in my recent buck hunt
Awesome interview guys! Thanks for sharing
Keep these coming. Watched both twice already and have learned so much.. Cant wait for this fall.
My best buck with a bow, I hitched a ride with the farmer on his tractor who had been seeing a big buck regularly. After he dropped me off it was about 30 minutes later I got him. He was used to the farmer being thete.
great information wonder if it applies across the board where I hunt in Massachusetts its 10 hunters or more per 100 acres. 1 hunter per 75 acres is not high pressure. I would love to see a study in a different scenario
I can show you places in NW Pennsylvania on public land (SGL) Where deer are pawing through the December snow 50 feet behind a parking lot on the edge of the road to get at low level grass & greens below the normal weed growth
Guys this was awesome I’m starting to do some land management this week getting ready for the upcoming season and now I know exactly which direction I wanna go. Keep it up fellas!
I’ve had deer standing in front of me where there is very high hunting pressure that hardly move when gun fire occurs less than 300 yards away. They seem to react the same during thunder. Scent and loud movement through the woods by hunters on foot have the most adverse effects.
Really enjoyed this episode! Very enlightening! Just listened to the podcast 🤯
Very good conversation! Enjoyed it
Awesome video with some great information! Thank you THP!
My friend Remnar from the UP kills tons of bucks. Yuge thirdy pointers , big as Buicks. Just north of Macinaw at his place called the Soady deer camp. You just got to get out there fellas. Don't get discouraged.
Great info, read there studies a few years back. Now can we talk about Zach’s leg workout?
Great episode, THP! Love having scientific input👍
i've always said from the min. they hear the first shots of squirrel season ....the bucks know it's on
I never knew they would digest they’re own bones that’s incredible
Love the content. Thanks for all the knowledge, definitely gunna put it to use this coming season
That was funny when he said most people can't stalk up on a buck to those 2 guys haha.
Great content - THP just continues to deliver!
If you can't find them in the woods/swamps try looking in the over grown fields/hayfields golden ron fields found that sometimes they go out there and lay up all day thats where nobody is looking for them try it it just might be where they are at even better look in the over grown apple orchards
Great controlled study almost exactly what some of figured.Returning to normal within a week is unusual,for those bowhunters who follow a very high pressured gunseason afterwards.I think it often takes a month,until bitter cold in December pushes bucks to forage farther,but still mostly at night.
They need to have had cams out on the changes on day movements if much,after gun season.My guess is that the first half hour of light is mostly the only time shootable,after the first few days of heavy gunshooting.Sitting in or near the usual bedding areas may extend that to an hour after light.
“Most hunters can’t stalk a buck” as he’s sitting across from a true deer stalking legend in the making
Cool. An entire group talking about bucks and not one said "HORNS". Bravo!
Cut a narrow path through a large dense thicket in the summer. Leave it alone for a few months leading into season. I guarantee it will be a travel corridor that bucks will use all season long.
The thick cover fields with multiple plant assortments are the better cover? I wonder if native Prarie grasses fit that niche?
Great video guys. Love the knowledge.
Man I love these kinds of videos
Great info fellas. I’ll check out the podcast, however, I didn’t hear anything about what time of day they move the most? When did hunting pressure happen (dawn/dusk/afternoon?
I wonder if wind direction effects afternoon bed exit travel direction
How does early season bow season differ from the pressure of gun season? Do the bucks not have to have as thick of cover during bow season maybe since not as much of hunting pressure?
Man you got to do more of these!!!!!!