Very good point I've got an old oak about that size to work up but it has been lightning struck which ive found out means it's gone in the middle. The guys that pay me for where it's located keep reminding me to be careful because I'm always out there alone. Anyway Merry Christmas.
I would have used a big saw with a 20 inch bar to cut that tree. My 391 would have probably been my choice. I always bring two saws to the wood to cut a tree up or to cut it down.
I love your channel. You and the wife seem to be a great team. I'm jealous I have never had the opportunity to run a 880. They are a beast for sure! I currently run a 395 husky and a couple 372 huskys as well. I run the 36" bar when falling timber. When its firewood time I run a 28" bar full comp chain no skip. It cuts black oak and madrone like a hot knife through butter. I'm in nor cal. Currently cutting burnt timber from the complex fire. Week after this one we going to paradise to work on the campfire cleanup. Cutting burnt timber is horrible on saws and chains. I also run a D5 grapple cat skidding logs out of the steep areas where rubber tired skidders cant operate. My favorite things are cutting firewood running the dozer and I do well at welding and fab work. Just wanted to say hello and I really like the channel
I usually cut some of the upper branches first and use them under the main beam to support it while I'm sawing the bulk of the trunk. It relieves a lot of the tension before you get into the bigger section. I lay the smaller logs alongside the trunk while sawing it too, to keep them from rolling off when they're cut free. Everyone does things differently... as long as it's cut up and you aren't, it's a good day in the woods.
Like you said, every tree is different... it's definitely worth the time you take to look around and identify the potential hazards that you're up against.
That tree is like that Cherry tree, worth some big bux in lumber...... I would love some wood out of a huge one like that for cabinet making........ That wood is so tight grained and dense it's worth top dollar..... Not like the smaller 18 to 20 inch oaks.... Plus Tard Mon Ami ~!~!
Nice job, that's a big log. One thing to consider when cutting an uprooted tree is the rootball may have a number of rocks and lots of soil. It may want to, stand back up, fall away or roll from the weight. I say this from experience. It scared the help out of me. Keep up the good work! Great idea to have a spotter!
Great video Mike and Melissa, always a joy to see you work together. She makes sure you are working and doing it safely and that you'll be on time for supper ;-) The saw is a keeper for you if you have more of those bigger trees available in your area, it will earn it's keep with the 36" bar. Merry Christmas to you all and a Happy New Year too. Thanks for sharing.
That 880 had a smile the whole time you were pulling the trigger! That oak tree might have the potential to be a veneer log Mike! It could also be a new kitchen table and many other pieces of fine furniture. I always like it when items are made and stay on the property the tree grew on. So anxious to see you pick out your new mill. That will take this channel to new High's. Let's see - New Mill = lots of lumber = storage bldg. = kiln = etc ,etc, etc Have a Merry Christmas Morgans!
I start at the bottom, ( what was the top of the tree before it fell ) remove all branches etc that are in the way, all tripping hazards. Remove those large branches first
You are correct. A lot of times with trees of larger size(3 + foot in diameter) it won't bind at all cutting straight through. Reason being your dealing with a large span. The saw cut starts to close but due to the length of the cut it can completely close and not bind as the wood only allows it that 3/8"cut width. Had it happen a lot. Other thing to watch for on blow downs with a big root ball, they can stand back up if you cut the top up or at the stump. Seen that happen a good bit too.
@@rnrudynh1427 I had a 4 ft diameter beech with a 15 ft root ball throw a 20 ft log right back up and it had been down for 6 months. Eye opener for me.
@@rnrudynh1427 Luckily I was watching the log and thought I saw it move some. Pulled the saw out(MS660 with 3 ft bar) and stepped back. Started slow and then stood up basically completely straight. Ended up having to redrop a fallen tree! LOL
Ya know, It's always sad to witness the end of such a magnificent life. But what the result of that life gives to those of us left behind is a Blessing from God.
@ Ms. Morgan....And thank you BOTH for sharing. Let us ALL be inspired by that old Oak to think about how we can improve the lives of others when WE 'pass'. FILL OUT that 'donor card' when you renew your driver's license! ~Eli.
Merry Christmas Mike and family. I'd be interested in hearing you talk about the best and worst hardwoods for heating in a wood stove. Thanks for the great content you share. It's always fun to watch.
Thanks Mike & Melissa... I'm about (2) mos. late to the party here, oh well! I wanted to see that big bad boy of a saw, the MS-880 Magnum do its job. I appreciate your honesty about not being a pro as neither am I! However, I can clearly see how through years of experience, your safe approach to cutting this beast of an oak. You clearly have a good understanding of " pinch points "... This job is a perfect example where it is nice to have a ( 2nd ) smaller saw on hand to cut away all the crap in advance but once again safety here is tantamount with respect to those pressure loaded whips bent over under the tree's weight. I think in your later video you added a 48" bar to this saw. In closing, I assume you had consulted with your local sawmill in advance on the best lengths to cut on this beautiful oak to get the best value ($$$) out of it. Thank you, Bill on the Hill... :~)
Just found your channel. Nice videos! I have the MS 660, 880 and 461. Most of the time, I use the 660 magnum. 880 is a bit heavier but when I have ti cut a big tree, I use her. I run bar from 18"- 36" on all of my saws. Nice that Stihl loaned that saw bc it ain't cheap!
Wow you have quite a line up there, the one thing I really like about the 880 is putting it down and using the 362 lol, the 362 feels like a feather after that lol
Outdoors With The Morgans Yes sir! The 461 weights nothing compare to the big boys especially the 880! Carrying the 660 or 880 all day in forest is no fun.
Love it when a plan comes together. More justification for a mill, but with logs like that it is going to have some capacity. Merry Christmas to you all.
I always click 👍. With the 4' bar you need full body armor. Keep that chain tight. That is a cat o' 9 tails with a serious bite. Ask me how I know. Don't ever get lazy with a big saw. You'll get hurt very quickly. You know though.
with the hat and pants using wedges all your speculations on pinch points and tree rolling id say you have a heck of a start to bein a pro . im no pro myself was in process to buying 100 acre from forestry learned how to fell trees and think about what and where they wanna go . got about 30 or more cords cut some post n poles and wound up having deal fall through . a blessing that was not seen . great job on safety and knowledge ;) i look forward to watching more vids
So I was expecting a cutaway shot to Melissa pulling the tree up the slope. She's the lady version of Chuck Norris. Or maybe he's the male version of Melissa Morgan 😀
Mike, Thanks again. So what will you do with the tree now? Sell it for furniture? Process it yourself? Firewood it? Btw you and your wife are so natural together. Thanks again for the video. Sincerely, Rod PS, I hope that you took all those hints at protecting your lower back from a previous video
That 880 is no joke. Great safety points you made about the up hill and down hill side if the to be cut log. Also great point about the smaller trees and saplings. Those will ruin yur day if you let them..phwaaack. merry Christmas Mike to you and your family. It was 64 and raining up here in central NH yesterday.
I’m not a critic. Just remember to keep your right hand (gas) as straight as possible to the work on the handle. A sudden pinch or a spike will break an angled wrist. Have fun, stay safe! Merry Christmas!
It would be nice if Wood Mizer stepped up because #1,we all know Mike wants a band mill.............and yea,because lets face it,we'd all love to see what the inside of that tree looks like lol.
I always get my helper to drive the wedges. Watch out for that dirt. If you get in it, you will not be cutting to much more without sharpening the chain.
Having some one with you cutting wood it is good practice for your safety. Great video like always give ideas of how to work. Keep your self safe and have a great Mary Christmas with your family and friends.
I never liked seeing the large majestic hardwoods of this stature come down.These are major nut producing trees for a whole array of wildlife.But it's all cyclical,and it will come around again.These caliber of trees also allow for a lot of wind protection for younger trees.Were all waiting for the NORWOOD mill,well maybe.
Great explanation of bind. Good to see you wearing the protective gear with that beast of a saw. It looked like you were wrestling a bear while you were cutting at the crotch end. I’m looking forward to seeing the lumber that comes out of that tree.
Mike, consider the woodlands mill. Bang for buck these two guys know what they are doing. Check out there site. For what you are doing this company has some gear that you could put to good use. I am sure these two canucks would work out a good deal for you!
Mike: Great points on the safety concerns! In a lot of the videos on UA-cam, guys are cutting with no PPE at all. It boggles my mind! There is a lot of criticism about the "safety sallys" from folks, but as an orthopedic physical therapist and safety professional for 31 years, it is no joke. I cannot begin to tell you how many injuries I have seen due to poor judgment. I love woodcutting, but I also like walking and feeding myself! Keep up the great work, and hope we can meet someday! Have a Merry Christmas!!!! John
Thank you Melissa for being a second set of eyes Mike always make relief cuts and clear escape routes the length of the tree. Awesome job always admire your efforts .that oak is going is going to make some out of this world lumber thank you and always be safe.
Looks like you got that saw just in time! You going to have that tree sawed into boards I am assuming? Glad you had Mellisa there to watch during that second cut in case it wanted to roll!
Melissa, that's one heck of a handrail??? Our lake is 42" higher than last year. Our area hasn't had this much annual precipitation since 1888--131 years ago. Merry Chrismas everyone & a blessed 2019 from Kazoo, Mi.
Not sure what kind of oak trees you have there, but none of ours around here fall over. When pushing with a decent size dozer(D8-D10), anything over about 16" needs dug out, pushed with a stinger, or pushed from a mound Ain't no wind or ice going to pull the roots.
Having used an 880 a lot cutting big trees and always having back pain I changed to a smaller saw with a 3foot bar and saved lugging one of those monsters all day .not one of Stihl s greatest invention s . big heavy unbalanced . good work Mike 👍
Took seven minutes to start cutting the tree up what a waste of time just get to it lol good video love the 880 I have a 660 and a ms 460 the older ones love them nothing like a stihl !!
Trusty ole biltmore stick says that you will get about 800 mbf. one 8ft log 23" on the small end is 185 mbf, second 8ft log probably 26 on the small end is about 205 mbf, third log at ten feet probably 26 inches on the small end another 255 mbf. is about 645 mbf.
Mike, you ever heard one of those big boys go down? My son and were hunting Elk State Forest above Bennezette PA . on the first day of rifle season this year. Pretty incredible. BTW they got lots of ice up there too.
Yes one time out Hunting as well, perfectly calm day, no snow, no ice and a huge one went down, could hear it cracking a few minutes before it finally went
I got a tree the power company come talked to me about and they asked me if I would take the wood if they cut the tree down... No brainer cause it was a pin oak and solid... I didn't realize how big the tree was but when I went to get it my 4' bar was 2" to short going all the way threw 8' up from the base... My big tractor wouldn't pick it up... I had the power but it would just lift the rear... Long story short... If you pick that log up with that RK 55 in an 8' log I'm going that day and buying the 55 model... This is a serious comment I'm looking for a nice smaller tractor with a cab... I pray you get it out of their for lumber
Mike, you should totally get a chainsaw mill for that saw. I know it's not the kind of saw mill you are wanting, but I feel it would be a great test for what that saw can do, and demo it for it's most used purpose. Oh, and with a saw like that, you should just bring that puny tree to the saw. No use in lugging that saw around. : )
Try dogging in and sweeping WAY around the far side. Come back and cut down until you start to feel bind. Pull saw mostly out and cut the near side down below your bind a bit. Then bore in and finish the tension side. When that’s cut come up and back bar the rest. Hope this makes sense. Also reaming the buck, thrusting the saw in and out of the cut in an ovalish motion, may allow you to get straight through. Nice job.
Mike - figure 400# a foot figuring 36” average. If that is the case, an 8’ would be 3,200#. I think you should consider rigging up some pulleys to help get them up the hill. Otherwise, consider getting some timbers for a frame or slabs for tables. As straight as those are there are big dollars there. Matt Cremona would love to have those for his big mill in MN.
How heavy is the 880 vs 660? Was thinking of getting an 880 with 28inch bar for ripping blocks and cutting big logs into firewood. Really want to be able to dig the dogs in and lay on it to cut fast. I have ran a 660 for 5 or 6 back to back tanks, and wasn't too tired.
wow - that thing went through that wood like a hot knife through butter - I'm sure the brand new sharp blade helps, but the power and weight of that saw has to lend a hand as well.
Think your going to need a lot bigger tractor , a log skidder job . So do you heat anything with wood or just cut and sell ? Have a nice time playing lumber jack
Cool MS880, and I like how you respect the size of the log and the slope it’s on. One thing I remember from my youth while running the sawmill with my grandfather that may help you out - when sawing logs into boards, if you want 8’ boards from a log, to cut the log about 4-6” longer for end splitting while drying, and for squaring off the rough ends.
That's good advice. I've cut pine & hemlock logs on my own property and had a portable mill come in to saw them into lumber. I always cut them about 4 inches longer than what I wanted for a finished length. You can also use a log sealer paint to inhibit checking, though I never did that to mine. I sure hope he gets that mill soon!
Mike . You did well, one thing that I try to do when I cut a BIG tree is to try to hold the saw level, that way as I cut I do not bury the tip in the other side of the tree, and have pressure pushing back on me and the saw, , , if the tree is bigger around than the bar is long, I will go over the top for a couple inches, then try to get level, , that way there is a little wood to hold the other side, and I then finish the cut from the other side, , I also block from the underside if needed so that when I make the cut, the tree MIGHT not go down as far and pinch, I do also use wedges, some times I cut them from the stump end, , , and I pound the heck out of them, and that way they are in as far as I can hammer them in, and I do not have to worry about recovery of them.. GOOD WORK, I think with this tree, you are now a certificated Professional Amature. (spelled wrong)
Last year the insurance company told my mother that two oak trees beside her house had to be removed for her to keep her insurance. After several quotes of $6000.00+ to take them down, I bought a Stihl clone MS660 in a box not assembled. Put the saw together, added a 36" Oregan bar with skip tooth chain. One of the oaks was 60" across at head high. Had to come at it from both sides to cut through it. The MS660 clone cut right through it without any problem. The other oak was 38" across at head height. Again no problem dropping that tree with the clone. Could not find anyone in my area that had a saw mill big enough to cut them up. Last week had to drop one pecan and one pine tree over 36" across at head height, again the MS660 clone fired right up and made short work of dropping them to the ground. It drinks a lots of gas compared to my husqvarna 357. The skip tooth chain make it easy to handle. Just remember saws this big are heavy and made for cutting.
@@ronaldwilkins6056 U start your cut on the back of the log from bottom over the top a bar and a 1/2 deep 1/2 way down the front pull back plunge in entil the bar goes thru the wood the top shoud hold it cut down carefully to keep the chain out of the dirt ,then cut up it shoud come thru the top with no pinch. Oh yea if you ever have pound wedges get a good plumb axe!!!!!! THANK'S from NOR-CAL!!!!
that was a good idea to have the wife nearby while you cut the big wood yeah u wouldn't spend Christmas laid up in the house or hospital thats a HUGE tree
Hey mike I was watching a video on why people flip their bar on chainsaws, I did not know this and noticed your bar was never flipped. It’s so the bar wears evenly. The manufacturer even put oil ports on both sides. Just make sure oil port is clear of sawdust when you flip it. I don’t cut as much as you but it may be a good practice!
Time to budget for a 461 with a 28 and 36 inch bar for the bigger trees the 362 is not able to handle. Thgese big cc saws are not fun to run all day,I have ran a 088 for a week 10 hours a dayand that big saw with a 8 foot bar got offly heavy.
That bar seems to be smoking quite a lot. Human the UA-cam channel talked about a new jug of Sthil bar oil wouldn’t flow at low ambient temps. Think this might be happening here?
I did see some smoke but it was definitely oiling heavy?? Also I watch Human, good channel and he can handle an 880 much better than me lol, Maybe 25 years ago it would be a different story!
@@OutdoorsWithTheMorgans if I'm correct he was using the Cheeper orange bottle of bar oil and you had the silver $15 jug of Stihl bar oil from rural king... The silver bottle the oil is clear like he was saying the old oil use to be... My 880 with the Orange bottle of oil in freezing temperature my chain got so hot it turned the teeth blue and went dual quickly... I started using the expensive stuff in mine and not 1 problem since... My theory anyway I'm not saying I'm right but I'd sure love to hear your thoughts
mike,you need to get that fresh ct end sealed,and soon.either with some latex paint,or anchor saeal.oak is terrible about checking VERRY deeply ,you can actually lose a whole log at times as the checking in oak can traverse the whole length.just something to think about as you head towards becoming a sawyer.
Nice work on the old oak!!! As you say Mike your no pro.....Just how you do things......Well let me tell you that you have taught me a lot and even more than that good info I can use moving forward!!! Thanks again!!
It's always good to have someone out there with you while running a chainsaw. Have a great day and be safe
Very good point I've got an old oak about that size to work up but it has been lightning struck which ive found out means it's gone in the middle. The guys that pay me for where it's located keep reminding me to be careful because I'm always out there alone. Anyway Merry Christmas.
Wow! She's beautiful! You did good! Nice job with the saw and video as well! 👍
That saw is amazing! Cut that huge log like butter!
It's a good thing it cuts fast cause I get worn out pretty quick carrying it around lol
I would have used a big saw with a 20 inch bar to cut that tree. My 391 would have probably been my choice. I always bring two saws to the wood to cut a tree up or to cut it down.
I love your channel. You and the wife seem to be a great team. I'm jealous I have never had the opportunity to run a 880. They are a beast for sure! I currently run a 395 husky and a couple 372 huskys as well. I run the 36" bar when falling timber. When its firewood time I run a 28" bar full comp chain no skip. It cuts black oak and madrone like a hot knife through butter. I'm in nor cal. Currently cutting burnt timber from the complex fire. Week after this one we going to paradise to work on the campfire cleanup. Cutting burnt timber is horrible on saws and chains. I also run a D5 grapple cat skidding logs out of the steep areas where rubber tired skidders cant operate. My favorite things are cutting firewood running the dozer and I do well at welding and fab work. Just wanted to say hello and I really like the channel
I have never seen anyone overthink saw work like this. No wedges and stuff were needed here.
I usually cut some of the upper branches first and use them under the main beam to support it while I'm sawing the bulk of the trunk. It relieves a lot of the tension before you get into the bigger section. I lay the smaller logs alongside the trunk while sawing it too, to keep them from rolling off when they're cut free. Everyone does things differently... as long as it's cut up and you aren't, it's a good day in the woods.
This one the entire top was pretty much smashed to pieces
Like you said, every tree is different... it's definitely worth the time you take to look around and identify the potential hazards that you're up against.
How is that 880 been looking at one for milling
That tree is like that Cherry tree, worth some big bux in lumber...... I would love some wood out of a huge one like that for cabinet making........ That wood is so tight grained and dense it's worth top dollar..... Not like the smaller 18 to 20 inch oaks....
Plus Tard Mon Ami ~!~!
when your chainsaw hangs up shake it might have 3 or 4 times don't let the chain hang up that works keep chain moving 11 14 2021
Nice job, that's a big log. One thing to consider when cutting an uprooted tree is the rootball may have a number of rocks and lots of soil. It may want to, stand back up, fall away or roll from the weight. I say this from experience. It scared the help out of me. Keep up the good work! Great idea to have a spotter!
Great video Mike and Melissa, always a joy to see you work together. She makes sure you are working and doing it safely and that you'll be on time for supper ;-) The saw is a keeper for you if you have more of those bigger trees available in your area, it will earn it's keep with the 36" bar.
Merry Christmas to you all and a Happy New Year too. Thanks for sharing.
That 880 had a smile the whole time you were pulling the trigger!
That oak tree might have the potential to be a veneer log Mike!
It could also be a new kitchen table and many other pieces of fine furniture.
I always like it when items are made and stay on the property the tree grew on.
So anxious to see you pick out your new mill. That will take this channel to new High's.
Let's see - New Mill = lots of lumber = storage bldg. = kiln = etc ,etc, etc
Have a Merry Christmas Morgans!
I start at the bottom, ( what was the top of the tree before it fell ) remove all branches etc that are in the way, all tripping hazards. Remove those large branches first
You are correct. A lot of times with trees of larger size(3 + foot in diameter) it won't bind at all cutting straight through. Reason being your dealing with a large span. The saw cut starts to close but due to the length of the cut it can completely close and not bind as the wood only allows it that 3/8"cut width. Had it happen a lot. Other thing to watch for on blow downs with a big root ball, they can stand back up if you cut the top up or at the stump. Seen that happen a good bit too.
Very common in my area with pines if all sorts as well as birches. Great point.
@@rnrudynh1427 I had a 4 ft diameter beech with a 15 ft root ball throw a 20 ft log right back up and it had been down for 6 months. Eye opener for me.
@@kjinohio5897 wow that's serious ly dangerous. Glad you were not hurt or worse.
@@rnrudynh1427 Luckily I was watching the log and thought I saw it move some. Pulled the saw out(MS660 with 3 ft bar) and stepped back. Started slow and then stood up basically completely straight. Ended up having to redrop a fallen tree! LOL
Ya know, It's always sad to witness the end of such a magnificent life. But what the result of that life gives to those of us left behind is a Blessing from God.
@ Ms. Morgan....And thank you BOTH for sharing. Let us ALL be inspired by that old Oak to think about how we can improve the lives of others when WE 'pass'. FILL OUT that 'donor card' when you renew your driver's license! ~Eli.
@singleman you are so right about the organ donor card! I’ve done that ever since I’ve had my license which is WAY longer than I care to admit!
Merry Christmas Mike and family. I'd be interested in hearing you talk about the best and worst hardwoods for heating in a wood stove. Thanks for the great content you share. It's always fun to watch.
Thanks Mike & Melissa... I'm about (2) mos. late to the party here, oh well! I wanted to see that big bad boy of a saw, the MS-880 Magnum do its job. I appreciate your honesty about not being a pro as neither am I! However, I can clearly see how through years of experience, your safe approach to cutting this beast of an oak. You clearly have a good understanding of " pinch points "... This job is a perfect example where it is nice to have a ( 2nd ) smaller saw on hand to cut away all the crap in advance but once again safety here is tantamount with respect to those pressure loaded whips bent over under the tree's weight. I think in your later video you added a 48" bar to this saw.
In closing, I assume you had consulted with your local sawmill in advance on the best lengths to cut on this beautiful oak to get the best value ($$$) out of it.
Thank you,
Bill on the Hill... :~)
Just found your channel. Nice videos! I have the MS 660, 880 and 461. Most of the time, I use the 660 magnum. 880 is a bit heavier but when I have ti cut a big tree, I use her. I run bar from 18"- 36" on all of my saws. Nice that Stihl loaned that saw bc it ain't cheap!
Wow you have quite a line up there, the one thing I really like about the 880 is putting it down and using the 362 lol, the 362 feels like a feather after that lol
Outdoors With The Morgans Yes sir! The 461 weights nothing compare to the big boys especially the 880! Carrying the 660 or 880 all day in forest is no fun.
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Love it when a plan comes together. More justification for a mill, but with logs like that it is going to have some capacity. Merry Christmas to you all.
I always click 👍. With the 4' bar you need full body armor. Keep that chain tight. That is a cat o' 9 tails with a serious bite. Ask me how I know. Don't ever get lazy with a big saw. You'll get hurt very quickly. You know though.
with the hat and pants using wedges all your speculations on pinch points and tree rolling id say you have a heck of a start to bein a pro . im no pro myself was in process to buying 100 acre from forestry learned how to fell trees and think about what and where they wanna go . got about 30 or more cords cut some post n poles and wound up having deal fall through . a blessing that was not seen . great job on safety and knowledge ;) i look forward to watching more vids
Good to see that you wear the correct cutting gear. I bet you could get some really nice fireplace mantels from this oak.
So I was expecting a cutaway shot to Melissa pulling the tree up the slope. She's the lady version of Chuck Norris. Or maybe he's the male version of Melissa Morgan 😀
Mike,
Thanks again. So what will you do with the tree now? Sell it for furniture? Process it yourself? Firewood it?
Btw you and your wife are so natural together.
Thanks again for the video.
Sincerely,
Rod
PS, I hope that you took all those hints at protecting your lower back from a previous video
Mike,
Why not bring a 3 or 5 Pound sledge to drive the wedges into the tree. Seems like you struggle to use the hatchet?
Too bad you didn't have the skidding winch for that one.
That 880 is no joke. Great safety points you made about the up hill and down hill side if the to be cut log. Also great point about the smaller trees and saplings. Those will ruin yur day if you let them..phwaaack. merry Christmas Mike to you and your family. It was 64 and raining up here in central NH yesterday.
I’m not a critic. Just remember to keep your right hand (gas) as straight as possible to the work on the handle. A sudden pinch or a spike will break an angled wrist. Have fun, stay safe! Merry Christmas!
It would be nice if Wood Mizer stepped up because #1,we all know Mike wants a band mill.............and yea,because lets face it,we'd all love to see what the inside of that tree looks like lol.
Wow! That was a lot of fun. Always good to have a helper around. Thanks for the good video Mike. God Bless.
I always get my helper to drive the wedges. Watch out for that dirt. If you get in it, you will not be cutting to much more without sharpening the chain.
Having some one with you cutting wood it is good practice for your safety. Great video like always give ideas of how to work. Keep your self safe and have a great Mary Christmas with your family and friends.
Thanks and Merry Christmas to you and yours!
Now that's a saw log, imagine a 4" slab made into a dining table
At 6:06 stop the video and look almost dead center top and you can see the face of the tree's spirit watching him.
Mike,
hope Santa brings you a sawmill! You have some really nice logs to mill!
Merry Christmas and happy New Year to the Morgan family!
The 880 made that huge oak look very easy to buck! Awesome saw for wood like that. Merry Christmas!!
I never liked seeing the large majestic hardwoods of this stature come down.These are major nut producing trees for a whole array of wildlife.But it's all cyclical,and it will come around again.These caliber of trees also allow for a lot of wind protection for younger trees.Were all waiting for the NORWOOD mill,well maybe.
Great explanation of bind. Good to see you wearing the protective gear with that beast of a saw. It looked like you were wrestling a bear while you were cutting at the crotch end. I’m looking forward to seeing the lumber that comes out of that tree.
Mike, consider the woodlands mill. Bang for buck these two guys know what they are doing. Check out there site. For what you are doing this company has some gear that you could put to good use. I am sure these two canucks would work out a good deal for you!
Mike:
Great points on the safety concerns! In a lot of the videos on UA-cam, guys are cutting with no PPE at all. It boggles my mind! There is a lot of criticism about the "safety sallys" from folks, but as an orthopedic physical therapist and safety professional for 31 years, it is no joke. I cannot begin to tell you how many injuries I have seen due to poor judgment.
I love woodcutting, but I also like walking and feeding myself!
Keep up the great work, and hope we can meet someday!
Have a Merry Christmas!!!!
John
It's the right saw for that beast of a oak tree good job
Thank you Melissa for being a second set of eyes Mike always make relief cuts and clear escape routes the length of the tree. Awesome job always admire your efforts .that oak is going is going to make some out of this world lumber thank you and always be safe.
I pinched a bar so hard the groove for the chain closed up and it was useless.
Looks like you got that saw just in time! You going to have that tree sawed into boards I am assuming? Glad you had Mellisa there to watch during that second cut in case it wanted to roll!
The MS880 is a serious man glitter machine.
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Melissa, that's one heck of a handrail??? Our lake is 42" higher than last year. Our area hasn't had this much annual precipitation since 1888--131 years ago. Merry Chrismas everyone & a blessed 2019 from Kazoo, Mi.
Not sure what kind of oak trees you have there, but none of ours around here fall over. When pushing with a decent size dozer(D8-D10), anything over about 16" needs dug out, pushed with a stinger, or pushed from a mound Ain't no wind or ice going to pull the roots.
Having used an 880 a lot cutting big trees and always having back pain I changed to a smaller saw with a 3foot bar and saved lugging one of those monsters all day .not one of Stihl s greatest invention s . big heavy unbalanced . good work Mike 👍
Are planning on getting a sawmill sometime? Or do you just sell the logs?
That is a lotta saw.....geeezzzzz and a lotta tree for that matter .....🤠
Imagine the kickback
Took seven minutes to start cutting the tree up what a waste of time just get to it lol good video love the 880 I have a 660 and a ms 460 the older ones love them nothing like a stihl !!
I know I guess I was in a little hurry lol do love The video great job big follower
Dang, what torque. That saw is a beast
Trusty ole biltmore stick says that you will get about 800 mbf. one 8ft log 23" on the small end is 185 mbf, second 8ft log probably 26 on the small end is about 205 mbf, third log at ten feet probably 26 inches on the small end another 255 mbf. is about 645 mbf.
Mike, you ever heard one of those big boys go down? My son and were hunting Elk State Forest above Bennezette PA . on the first day of rifle season this year. Pretty incredible. BTW they got lots of ice up there too.
Yes one time out Hunting as well, perfectly calm day, no snow, no ice and a huge one went down, could hear it cracking a few minutes before it finally went
I Always enjoy your videos. keep up the great work. And Merry Christmas all.
Its amazing how the tree feel right beside the basement stairs, that was to close.....haha.....Merry Christmas!!!!
I got a tree the power company come talked to me about and they asked me if I would take the wood if they cut the tree down... No brainer cause it was a pin oak and solid... I didn't realize how big the tree was but when I went to get it my 4' bar was 2" to short going all the way threw 8' up from the base... My big tractor wouldn't pick it up... I had the power but it would just lift the rear... Long story short... If you pick that log up with that RK 55 in an 8' log I'm going that day and buying the 55 model...
This is a serious comment I'm looking for a nice smaller tractor with a cab... I pray you get it out of their for lumber
Mike, you should totally get a chainsaw mill for that saw. I know it's not the kind of saw mill you are wanting, but I feel it would be a great test for what that saw can do, and demo it for it's most used purpose. Oh, and with a saw like that, you should just bring that puny tree to the saw. No use in lugging that saw around. : )
Try dogging in and sweeping WAY around the far side. Come back and cut down until you start to feel bind. Pull saw mostly out and cut the near side down below your bind a bit. Then bore in and finish the tension side. When that’s cut come up and back bar the rest. Hope this makes sense. Also reaming the buck, thrusting the saw in and out of the cut in an ovalish motion, may allow you to get straight through. Nice job.
Mike - figure 400# a foot figuring 36” average. If that is the case, an 8’ would be 3,200#. I think you should consider rigging up some pulleys to help get them up the hill. Otherwise, consider getting some timbers for a frame or slabs for tables. As straight as those are there are big dollars there. Matt Cremona would love to have those for his big mill in MN.
I've been watching a lot of videos on UA-cam, and I think you sir, can call yourself a professional! Good educating. 🙂
Oh boy, that 880 was hot knifing that oak. Sweet.
How heavy is the 880 vs 660? Was thinking of getting an 880 with 28inch bar for ripping blocks and cutting big logs into firewood. Really want to be able to dig the dogs in and lay on it to cut fast. I have ran a 660 for 5 or 6 back to back tanks, and wasn't too tired.
I enjoyed the video, thanks. What’s the difference between a 880 and a 880 Magnum?
wow - that thing went through that wood like a hot knife through butter - I'm sure the brand new sharp blade helps, but the power and weight of that saw has to lend a hand as well.
If and when that one is run through a mill, it'll be worth a few bucks I'll bet. I love to work with oak, My oh My what a load of oak here!
Think your going to need a lot bigger tractor , a log skidder job . So do you heat anything with wood or just cut and sell ? Have a nice time playing lumber jack
Dang, man! Put that thing away! You’re scaring me! Seriously, great video of a heck of a chainsaw. Merry Christmas to you and Melissa!
That’s a lot of firewood in that tree, thumbs up
Now that is a Big Tree!!👍👊
Cool MS880, and I like how you respect the size of the log and the slope it’s on.
One thing I remember from my youth while running the sawmill with my grandfather that may help you out - when sawing logs into boards, if you want 8’ boards from a log, to cut the log about 4-6” longer for end splitting while drying, and for squaring off the rough ends.
Yep, was planning on that, thanks for the reminder
That's good advice. I've cut pine & hemlock logs on my own property and had a portable mill come in to saw them into lumber. I always cut them about 4 inches longer than what I wanted for a finished length. You can also use a log sealer paint to inhibit checking, though I never did that to mine. I sure hope he gets that mill soon!
Mike . You did well, one thing that I try to do when I cut a BIG tree is to try to hold the saw level, that way as I cut I do not bury the tip in the other side of the tree, and have pressure pushing back on me and the saw, , , if the tree is bigger around than the bar is long, I will go over the top for a couple inches, then try to get level, , that way there is a little wood to hold the other side, and I then finish the cut from the other side, , I also block from the underside if needed so that when I make the cut, the tree MIGHT not go down as far and pinch, I do also use wedges, some times I cut them from the stump end, , , and I pound the heck out of them, and that way they are in as far as I can hammer them in, and I do not have to worry about recovery of them.. GOOD WORK, I think with this tree, you are now a certificated Professional Amature. (spelled wrong)
Certified Pro Am weekend Warrior, thats me lol
Running kinda rich. But cuts well
My gosh, look at the chips coming out the bottom of that saw!!
Last year the insurance company told my mother that two oak trees beside her house had to be removed for her to keep her insurance. After several quotes of $6000.00+ to take them down, I bought a Stihl clone MS660 in a box not assembled. Put the saw together, added a 36" Oregan bar with skip tooth chain. One of the oaks was 60" across at head high. Had to come at it from both sides to cut through it. The MS660 clone cut right through it without any problem. The other oak was 38" across at head height. Again no problem dropping that tree with the clone. Could not find anyone in my area that had a saw mill big enough to cut them up. Last week had to drop one pecan and one pine tree over 36" across at head height, again the MS660 clone fired right up and made short work of dropping them to the ground. It drinks a lots of gas compared to my husqvarna 357. The skip tooth chain make it easy to handle. Just remember saws this big are heavy and made for cutting.
Two perfect cuts. Great idea using the wedges. 👍
First things first buy a real axe, then learn how to plunge cut.
He did at 11:19, har har.
I barely know enough to be dangerous...what would have been your sequence of cuts using a plunge cut?
@@ronaldwilkins6056 U start your cut on the back of the log from bottom over the top a bar and a 1/2 deep 1/2 way down the front pull back plunge in entil the bar goes thru the wood the top shoud hold it cut down carefully to keep the chain out of the dirt ,then cut up it shoud come thru the top with no pinch. Oh yea if you ever have pound wedges get a good plumb axe!!!!!! THANK'S from NOR-CAL!!!!
Mike I want to see the size of that wood stove your going to put them logsin lol
lol
Nice saw log with your own mill it would be another source of income hope you and your family have a great Christmas and a happy healthy New year
I dream of an 880 but I love my 460 magnum all day long! Great video!
that was a good idea to have the wife nearby while you cut the big wood yeah u wouldn't spend Christmas laid up in the house or hospital thats a HUGE tree
Hey mike I was watching a video on why people flip their bar on chainsaws, I did not know this and noticed your bar was never flipped. It’s so the bar wears evenly. The manufacturer even put oil ports on both sides. Just make sure oil port is clear of sawdust when you flip it. I don’t cut as much as you but it may be a good practice!
Santa needs top bring you something with a long band and sharp teeth! Merry Christmas!
It helps when you got a big saw on a big tree , but the saw is heavy 💀💀💀😀😀😀😯😉😈😈😈😈😈
4 inch cookies off the bat and would make excellent end tables.
Time to budget for a 461 with a 28 and 36 inch bar for the bigger trees the 362 is not able to handle. Thgese big cc saws are not fun to run all day,I have ran a 088 for a week 10 hours a dayand that big saw with a 8 foot bar got offly heavy.
I wonder how fast that thing would cut with a 10in bar
MIKE WANTS A SAWMILL FOR X-MAS!!
Have you ever thought about counting to rings to see how old that tree was?
You are blessed! And that 880 is one angry beaver! LOL!
I am cutting 28’red oak this week. Interested where you get yours milled
That bar seems to be smoking quite a lot. Human the UA-cam channel talked about a new jug of Sthil bar oil wouldn’t flow at low ambient temps. Think this might be happening here?
I did see some smoke but it was definitely oiling heavy?? Also I watch Human, good channel and he can handle an 880 much better than me lol, Maybe 25 years ago it would be a different story!
@@OutdoorsWithTheMorgans if I'm correct he was using the Cheeper orange bottle of bar oil and you had the silver $15 jug of Stihl bar oil from rural king... The silver bottle the oil is clear like he was saying the old oil use to be... My 880 with the Orange bottle of oil in freezing temperature my chain got so hot it turned the teeth blue and went dual quickly... I started using the expensive stuff in mine and not 1 problem since... My theory anyway I'm not saying I'm right but I'd sure love to hear your thoughts
There is more power in that saw, running well into the safe side of rich. It easily 4 strokes.
Good job with a dangerous tree!
mike,you need to get that fresh ct end sealed,and soon.either with some latex paint,or anchor saeal.oak is terrible about checking VERRY deeply ,you can actually lose a whole log at times as the checking in oak can traverse the whole length.just something to think about as you head towards becoming a sawyer.
Shouldn't be too bad this time of year, but will get it as soon as I can
Nice work on the old oak!!! As you say Mike your no pro.....Just how you do things......Well let me tell you that you have taught me a lot and even more than that good info I can use moving forward!!! Thanks again!!
Good deal
When your running that monster saw. Your wife is right always have someone for saftey
Great work Sir! That is a beautiful looking log.
That stump would make an awesome table !!!!
Boy it really would,
Good job Mike 👍
It always pays to think carefully which is the best way to go about the job .
Stay safe Mike 😉