Thank you very much! We pulled the sensor, our was a 10mm (different model) cleaned, reinstalled. engine light went out in about 900 yards. After a 1/4 mile run, we shut the engine on and off again. Steering immediately responded as opposed to the crunchy feel earlier. Many thanks Dan!
Thanks for the video. I now know where the Can-Am Maverick Sport XRC speed sensor is and take it off to clean it. On my last ride, my SxS decelerated and sped up several times. I also noticed my speedometer was showing sporadic speeds. It even showed 0 mph even though I was going around 25 mph. The display showed "LOW GEAR" and saw a flashing yellow exclamation point (!). I'm about to go on an 800 mile trip on the Arizona Peace Trail. So, replaced the speed sensor rather than cleaned it. Cost of the speed sensor was $96. I'll use the old speed sensor as a backup. Again, thanks for the video.
Your welcome Larry. When you can please confirm that the new speed sensor did the trick. I'll post the symptoms you mention on my Can Am Maverick Trail FB Page.
@@oldbuzzardvideo1399 Well, after going 826 miles on the Arizona Peace Trail, I had no issues with the speed sensor. It seems the speed sensor replacement did the trick.
My 2011 XP 800 started running rough and dying after it heated up on hot days (95+) when the fan was running and you slowed to an idle. It would crank back up after a short period and do the same thing. I changed out the fuel pump and that fixed it.
Would appreciate any suggestions. 2012 Polaris 800 Razor EFI hesitates at 45-50 mph. 45 is about 6350rpm. Not really a sputter or cough. Repairman just cleaned throttle body and fuel injectors and said idle air circuit was partially open causing a misfire at that speed. None of the work performed solved the issue. One person suggested the primary and secondary cluthes might be fighting each other. Need to get it fixed pretty quick so we can sell it and move, but I want it to be right. I should also mention that it has full power no issues 0-45. No codes, no engine light. Always at that speed only.Thanks. Appreciate anything.
I have no Polaris experience, but I'd be interested in a fuel pressure test. The fuel pump would be suspect to me. No stored codes for clues? If it's not a fuel delivery problem perhaps ignition? Do both plug burn with a nice golden tan? I'd probably put new plugs in it just because they are out and can break down at various RPM ranges. Perhaps spray a little water on the plug wires and coils to make sure the insulation isn't breaking down.
@@oldbuzzardvideo1399 Thank You for your response. I have some new information on the 2012 Polaris 800 Razor having issues at 45mph. I was asked if it could go faster than 45mph. Just took it for another test. As usual it hesitates at 45mph. I pushed it on a longer stretch and when it gets to 50mph it stops hesitating. When I get to 55mph it hesitates again. Top speed is 60 mph at a maximum of 6500 rpm. To obtain codes, one video suggested turning the key off and on 3 times and it will show a code. Didn’t see anything pop up when I tried it. I don’t know if this 800 has the ability to display any codes? I’d like to include some responses from folks kind enough to offer suggestions to see if it triggers any other ideas pointing to one thing. The spark plugs were replaced about 1.5 years ago. They were examined recently and found to be good. I still might replace them as that’s a cheaper item. I suppose it could be a bad spark plug wire.. or coil wire. Your thoughts? Suggestions: fuel pressure check, sounds like fuel pump, spray water on spark plug wires and coil wire, Fuel stabilizer, Belt might be slipping, inspect clutches and belts, don’t think its clutch related, sounds like clutches sticking, check belt for damage, weights in primary clutch are too light, was IAC mechanically stuck open or electrically being opened. Thanks again. I’m hoping this new information might directly point to something that I will try and tackle on my own. Taking it in is a last resort for me. I promise, to get back to you once I find the issue! Thank you kindly. Very much appreciated. Dave
I finally have the answers on the 2012 800 Razor issues. Thank you for your response! Summary for 2012 Razor 800: • Fuel pressure was a consistent 44PSI which is in spec. Previously verified during last repairs. • Spark Plugs were checked during previous repairs and color was a light brown (NGK BKR7E) Plugs replaced in previous repairs Jan. 2023 • TPS set at .730 per factory spec. using TPS TOOL brand meter (specified range is .720-.740 TPS voltage setting controls idle and start up. • Overall TPS voltage affects WOT, but that would be bad TPS unit. • IAC solenoid was partially open because of excessive dirt build up in throttle body. • Injectors were checked and cleaned because fuel goes bad much faster in the summer heat of the desert. • Mass Air Flow sensor was cleaned with MAF sensor cleaner because of dirt and oil build up • UNI brand Air Filter cleaned and treated and intake tract cleaned Diagnosis: • During diagnosis test drive the operators RPM’s were watched closely. • During wide open throttle pass on pavement, engine was at 6400 rpm at 45mph. • 6400rpm is on the rev limiter and that’s the surging feeling. Had to feather the throttle lightly to work towards 50mph and hit 6400 rpm again. Definitely Clutch related (clutches were not serviced in Jan of 2023, only on new belt). CLUTCH INSPECTION ON MACHINE: Secondary clutch was difficult to open for belt removal. Primary Clutch: Needed partial rebuild • Installed new OEM sliders • Rollers in the spider were good • Installed new OEM 2- way bearing • Installed new OEM 23-62 weights (removed 23-58 weights) • Installed new OEM shoulder bolts for the weights Secondary Clutch: Tear Down • Internal Rollers in excellent shape • Excessive dirt and debris in bushing area of moveable sheave resulted in hard to open during belt change, also translates to poor operating results • Replaced Belt Drive • After Clutch servicing engine holds at 6150 rpm during wide open. Wide open throttle RPM/MPH test No issue getting to 55mph, did not try for higher MPH as clutches now hold correct RPM
Hello! Love to see how knowledgeable you are about your machine in the videos. I'm very interested in your spare tire/chainsaw mount on the rear bumper. Is that a custom fabricated piece? I'd love to know more so I could look into having something similar myself. Cheers!
Hi,, Just wanted to mention my thoughts, and exposure to speed sensor, and Deutsch Connectors. First ,, (I have same problem on a 2019 Can-Am Maverick Trail 1000 DPS) Thank you for quickly identifying the Sensor /location. So this is what I did and found, My approach was find the connector for this sensor, i found that there were 2 plastic Anchors tying down the harness and pigtail of sensor,, I removed both , this allowed me to inspected the connector looks like a Deutsch 3 Pin Connector. I disconnected the Male from Female and immediately seen corrosion and sighs of water intrusion, I hosed it down with contact cleaner both harness and sensor side mated them together a few times, hosed it down again. tried it and Problem( speedo reading 0 ) was now fixed. It just so happens I work for Cummins Electronics and one of my tasks on occasion is doing Life Testing of these types of Deutsch connectors. So looking at the Connector in question, I quickly spotted a (Sensor Manufacturing Flaw) that being the wire gauge they used was too small,(( Harness side is good with larger gauge wire))this is the intrusion point for water to enter the connector and start the break down. With proper gauge wire the seals can seal out moisture, { (they are rated at 5 psi , meaning the connector should stay sealed up to 5 psi )} so the sensor company screwed this up, I plan to replace my sensor side of connector with a pigtail of larger gauge wire and create a splice a couple inches towards the sensor., I will also extract sensor and inspect/clean. Oh I luckily have the special type of crimper, for those that don't i would at least clean the area right there where small wires enter the back of connector and there jam as much Red RTV into and on that seal. Those that buy a new sensor should at least do this also(assuming the replacement sensor also has this TOO SMALL WIRE GAUGE DESIGN . I hope this helps someone else.
Jason, the video is pretty old and so am I 🤪 I don't remember an issue. The speed sensor is part of the normal maintenance schedule. If I made a different comment please remind me.
I went back and refreshed my memory Jason. I'm 99.9% sure it was a vapor-lock issue. It only happened on that long steep high speed climb in very hot weather. It never happened again to my memory.
Thank you very much! We pulled the sensor, our was a 10mm (different model) cleaned, reinstalled. engine light went out in about 900 yards. After a 1/4 mile run, we shut the engine on and off again. Steering immediately responded as opposed to the crunchy feel earlier. Many thanks Dan!
Thanks for the video. I now know where the Can-Am Maverick Sport XRC speed sensor is and take it off to clean it. On my last ride, my SxS decelerated and sped up several times. I also noticed my speedometer was showing sporadic speeds. It even showed 0 mph even though I was going around 25 mph. The display showed "LOW GEAR" and saw a flashing yellow exclamation point (!). I'm about to go on an 800 mile trip on the Arizona Peace Trail. So, replaced the speed sensor rather than cleaned it. Cost of the speed sensor was $96. I'll use the old speed sensor as a backup. Again, thanks for the video.
Your welcome Larry. When you can please confirm that the new speed sensor did the trick. I'll post the symptoms you mention on my Can Am Maverick Trail FB Page.
@@oldbuzzardvideo1399 Well, after going 826 miles on the Arizona Peace Trail, I had no issues with the speed sensor. It seems the speed sensor replacement did the trick.
Thank you for making this video, I've been getting a speed sensor code on my polaris ranger and wasn't sure where it was located.
My 2011 XP 800 started running rough and dying after it heated up on hot days (95+) when the fan was running and you slowed to an idle. It would crank back up after a short period and do the same thing. I changed out the fuel pump and that fixed it.
You have a great computer program there at 3:28. Obviously it’s a shop manual of sorts. Where can I get one?
Try bestshopmanuals@gmail.com or google them. They may not be in business anymore..
Would appreciate any suggestions. 2012 Polaris 800 Razor EFI hesitates at 45-50 mph. 45 is about 6350rpm. Not really a sputter or cough. Repairman just cleaned throttle body and fuel injectors and said idle air circuit was partially open causing a misfire at that speed. None of the work performed solved the issue. One person suggested the primary and secondary cluthes might be fighting each other. Need to get it fixed pretty quick so we can sell it and move, but I want it to be right. I should also mention that it has full power no issues 0-45. No codes, no engine light. Always at that speed only.Thanks. Appreciate anything.
I have no Polaris experience, but I'd be interested in a fuel pressure test. The fuel pump would be suspect to me. No stored codes for clues? If it's not a fuel delivery problem perhaps ignition? Do both plug burn with a nice golden tan? I'd probably put new plugs in it just because they are out and can break down at various RPM ranges. Perhaps spray a little water on the plug wires and coils to make sure the insulation isn't breaking down.
@@oldbuzzardvideo1399 Thank you. I'll let you know what I find out.
@@oldbuzzardvideo1399 Thank You for your response. I have some new information on the 2012 Polaris 800 Razor having issues at 45mph.
I was asked if it could go faster than 45mph. Just took it for another test. As usual it hesitates at 45mph. I pushed it on a longer stretch and when it gets to 50mph it stops hesitating. When I get to 55mph it hesitates again. Top speed is 60 mph at a maximum of 6500 rpm.
To obtain codes, one video suggested turning the key off and on 3 times and it will show a code. Didn’t see anything pop up when I tried it. I don’t know if this 800 has the ability to display any codes?
I’d like to include some responses from folks kind enough to offer suggestions to see if it triggers any other ideas pointing to one thing.
The spark plugs were replaced about 1.5 years ago. They were examined recently and found to be good. I still might replace them as that’s a cheaper item. I suppose it could be a bad spark plug wire.. or coil wire. Your thoughts?
Suggestions: fuel pressure check, sounds like fuel pump, spray water on spark plug wires and coil wire, Fuel stabilizer, Belt might be slipping, inspect clutches and belts, don’t think its clutch related, sounds like clutches sticking, check belt for damage, weights in primary clutch are too light, was IAC mechanically stuck open or electrically being opened.
Thanks again. I’m hoping this new information might directly point to something that I will try and tackle on my own. Taking it in is a last resort for me.
I promise, to get back to you once I find the issue!
Thank you kindly. Very much appreciated.
Dave
I finally have the answers on the 2012 800 Razor issues. Thank you for your response!
Summary for 2012 Razor 800:
• Fuel pressure was a consistent 44PSI which is in spec. Previously verified during last repairs.
• Spark Plugs were checked during previous repairs and color was a light brown
(NGK BKR7E) Plugs replaced in previous repairs Jan. 2023
• TPS set at .730 per factory spec. using TPS TOOL brand meter (specified range is .720-.740 TPS voltage setting controls idle and start up.
• Overall TPS voltage affects WOT, but that would be bad TPS unit.
• IAC solenoid was partially open because of excessive dirt build up in throttle body.
• Injectors were checked and cleaned because fuel goes bad much faster in the summer heat of the desert.
• Mass Air Flow sensor was cleaned with MAF sensor cleaner because of dirt and oil build up
• UNI brand Air Filter cleaned and treated and intake tract cleaned
Diagnosis:
• During diagnosis test drive the operators RPM’s were watched closely.
• During wide open throttle pass on pavement, engine was at 6400 rpm at 45mph.
• 6400rpm is on the rev limiter and that’s the surging feeling. Had to feather the throttle lightly to work towards 50mph and hit 6400 rpm again.
Definitely Clutch related (clutches were not serviced in Jan of 2023, only on new belt).
CLUTCH INSPECTION ON MACHINE:
Secondary clutch was difficult to open for belt removal.
Primary Clutch: Needed partial rebuild
• Installed new OEM sliders
• Rollers in the spider were good
• Installed new OEM 2- way bearing
• Installed new OEM 23-62 weights (removed 23-58 weights)
• Installed new OEM shoulder bolts for the weights
Secondary Clutch: Tear Down
• Internal Rollers in excellent shape
• Excessive dirt and debris in bushing area of moveable sheave resulted in hard to open during belt change, also translates to poor operating results
• Replaced Belt Drive
• After Clutch servicing engine holds at 6150 rpm during wide open. Wide open throttle RPM/MPH test
No issue getting to 55mph, did not try for higher MPH as clutches now hold correct RPM
Thx for information
Hello! Love to see how knowledgeable you are about your machine in the videos. I'm very interested in your spare tire/chainsaw mount on the rear bumper. Is that a custom fabricated piece? I'd love to know more so I could look into having something similar myself. Cheers!
Custom fab with the saw press from Northren Tool. Detailed Pics on the Can Am Maverick trail FB page.
Love the video
Hi,, Just wanted to mention my thoughts, and exposure to speed sensor, and Deutsch Connectors. First ,, (I have same problem on a 2019 Can-Am Maverick Trail 1000 DPS) Thank you for quickly identifying the Sensor /location. So this is what I did and found, My approach was find the connector for this sensor, i found that there were 2 plastic Anchors tying down the harness and pigtail of sensor,, I removed both , this allowed me to inspected the connector looks like a Deutsch 3 Pin Connector. I disconnected the Male from Female and immediately seen corrosion and sighs of water intrusion, I hosed it down with contact cleaner both harness and sensor side mated them together a few times, hosed it down again. tried it and Problem( speedo reading 0 ) was now fixed. It just so happens I work for Cummins Electronics and one of my tasks on occasion is doing Life Testing of these types of Deutsch connectors. So looking at the Connector in question, I quickly spotted a (Sensor Manufacturing Flaw) that being the wire gauge they used was too small,(( Harness side is good with larger gauge wire))this is the intrusion point for water to enter the connector and start the break down. With proper gauge wire the seals can seal out moisture, { (they are rated at 5 psi , meaning the connector should stay sealed up to 5 psi )} so the sensor company screwed this up, I plan to replace my sensor side of connector with a pigtail of larger gauge wire and create a splice a couple inches towards the sensor., I will also extract sensor and inspect/clean. Oh I luckily have the special type of crimper, for those that don't i would at least clean the area right there where small wires enter the back of connector and there jam as much Red RTV into and on that seal. Those that buy a new sensor should at least do this also(assuming the replacement sensor also has this TOO SMALL WIRE GAUGE DESIGN . I hope this helps someone else.
Hello my friend, what size tires are you running?? Are they the stock wheels? Looking to get some new sneakers for my machine.
What ended up being the issue? Mine is doing pretty much the same thing and cleaning sensor didn’t work.
Jason, the video is pretty old and so am I 🤪 I don't remember an issue. The speed sensor is part of the normal maintenance schedule. If I made a different comment please remind me.
@@oldbuzzardvideo1399 no in the video cleaning it didn’t solve the issue you were having.
I went back and refreshed my memory Jason. I'm 99.9% sure it was a vapor-lock issue. It only happened on that long steep high speed climb in very hot weather. It never happened again to my memory.
Where do you find schematic that you had at beginning of video, showing speed sensor location?
Page 93 of the 2019 owners manual.
The one in the video is from the shop manual.