From Mordor to Metal: Tolkien's Legacy in Modern Music

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  • @benjythatsme
    @benjythatsme 4 місяці тому +14

    "Heavy Mithril"... you never fail to impress. Amazing!!!

    • @GirlNextGondor
      @GirlNextGondor  4 місяці тому +3

      I can't take credit for the term I'm afraid 😂 but it fit perfectly. Glad you enjoyed!

  • @orchardhouse9241
    @orchardhouse9241 4 місяці тому +23

    As a string player, I feel very honored by Tolkien's comment that string players are wizards.

  • @rogeriopenna9014
    @rogeriopenna9014 4 місяці тому +16

    Nightfall On Middle Earth is simply awesome. An entire album dedicated to the war of the Silmarils

    • @carlcramer9269
      @carlcramer9269 4 місяці тому +2

      Sadly blocked on Spotify - I suppose for copyright reasons. :(

  • @benjaminlammertz64
    @benjaminlammertz64 4 місяці тому +26

    Blind Guardian was the soundtrack of my late teens and early 20s.
    But i have to say, "Clamavi de profundis" just NAILED the feeling of "Yeah, that's how i now imagine these songs to have been sung in the story".

    • @annafdd
      @annafdd 4 місяці тому +5

      Lament for Boromir broke my heart. Lament for the Rohirrim threw me into an abyss of existential horror. But the greatest surprise for me was the March of the Ents!

    • @benjaminlammertz64
      @benjaminlammertz64 4 місяці тому +4

      @@annafdd My favourite is "the battle of Sauron and Finrod Felagund".
      A duel between two of the greatest magic users in the history of arda... and it's basically a rap battle.
      They perfectly captured how Finrod gains strenght from invoking all the achievements, knowledge and wisdom of his people, his realm in Nargothrond and finally the blessed land of Valinor... only to realize too late that mentioning Valinor, the realm he and his people can no longer return to, was a mistake which Sauron quickly exploits.

    • @hognelarsenrhme1703
      @hognelarsenrhme1703 4 місяці тому

      I listen to them all the time

  • @blacksage2375
    @blacksage2375 4 місяці тому +95

    The peak of Tolkien music is clearly Nimoy's Ballad of Bilbo's Baggins

    • @GirlNextGondor
      @GirlNextGondor  4 місяці тому +32

      10/10 most lore accurate tolkien adaptation

    • @colindunnigan8621
      @colindunnigan8621 4 місяці тому +4

      Truly an epic masterpiece...

    • @BlueWingedRino
      @BlueWingedRino 4 місяці тому +2

      I love that song.

    • @Valdagast
      @Valdagast 4 місяці тому +10

      I see you haven't heard the "Elbereth Gilthoniel" sea shanty.

    • @onatgz
      @onatgz 4 місяці тому +7

      i miss the 2 minutes 19 seconds ago, when i didn't know about... this.

  • @Gurmannen
    @Gurmannen 4 місяці тому +20

    Nightfall in Middle Earth is still one of my all time favorite albums of all time

  • @current9300
    @current9300 4 місяці тому +72

    The Fate of us all
    Lies deep in the dark
    WHEN TIME STANDS STILL AT THE IRON HILL

    • @Disgruntled_Grunt
      @Disgruntled_Grunt 4 місяці тому +21

      Lord of all Noldor
      A star in the night, a bearer of hope

    • @GirlNextGondor
      @GirlNextGondor  4 місяці тому +23

      Rides into his glorious battle alone

    • @VoIcanoman
      @VoIcanoman 4 місяці тому +11

      @@GirlNextGondor Farewell to the valiant warlord.

    • @annafdd
      @annafdd 4 місяці тому +10

      ⁠I stand alone
      None by my side
      I DARE YOU
      COWARD
      COME OUT

    • @ateenwholikesvideogames303
      @ateenwholikesvideogames303 4 місяці тому +7

      @@annafdd "NOW ITS ME, OR YOU!"
      He gleams like a star,
      and the sound of his horn's
      like a raging storm
      Proudly the high lord challenges doom
      "LORD OF SLAVES!" he cries

  • @sinthoras1917
    @sinthoras1917 4 місяці тому +17

    I get a weird of joy out of you having to listen to everything from opera to gorgoroth for the research of this video

  • @mjlamey1066
    @mjlamey1066 4 місяці тому +16

    Babe, wake up! Gandalf's shredding out a bitchin' guitar solo!

  • @oudugan8676
    @oudugan8676 4 місяці тому +9

    Lexi, you are truly gifted. Your sense of intelligence, humor, research skills, and storytelling ability is akin to my own, and certainly greater than mine. Your essays are a source of joy for people like us.

  • @SpaceWhaIe
    @SpaceWhaIe 4 місяці тому +17

    Summoning got me to actually sit down and read Tolkien after having only ever watched the movies and read the Hobbit. 🤘

  • @TolkienLorePodcast
    @TolkienLorePodcast 4 місяці тому +3

    Ah, Glenn Yarbrough, a vibrato only surpassed by Tinfang Warble himself. ;) As a child of parents who played tons of ‘70s singer-songwriters’ music (and who grew up watching The Hobbit and Return of the King) I have a special fondness for the Rankin-Bass stuff even today.

  • @richtomchuk1584
    @richtomchuk1584 4 місяці тому +15

    Where there's a whip
    There's a way!

    • @horseenthusiast9903
      @horseenthusiast9903 4 місяці тому +9

      We don't wanna go to war today, but the lord of the lash says, "Nay, nay, nay!"

    • @procrastinator99
      @procrastinator99 4 місяці тому +3

      WE’RE GONNA MARCH ALL DAY,
      ALL DAY, ALL DAAAAAAAAAAYY!!!

    • @root13pie
      @root13pie 4 місяці тому +3

      I sing this every time when I watch that part of Return of the King. No one gets it. :)

    • @donweatherwax9318
      @donweatherwax9318 3 місяці тому +1

      LoL, how I love that song 🎵

  • @Morosoph_deLore
    @Morosoph_deLore 4 місяці тому +8

    The album "Demons and Wizards" (by Uriah Heep) was released in 1972. One song on it that reminded me of LOTR is "The Wizard".

    • @Heike--
      @Heike-- 4 місяці тому +1

      It never fails to impress me the deep cultural impact Tolkien made all the way back then. He's still going strong a half century later.

    • @Morosoph_deLore
      @Morosoph_deLore 3 місяці тому

      @@Heike-- "Way back then"!!! Have I been dated??? 😄😂 FYI: The best head banging tune on that album is "Easy Living"! A heavy metal band could make it a hit today!

  • @captainboots
    @captainboots 4 місяці тому +26

    The band currently known as "Rhapsody of Fire" (formerly just 'Rhapsody') has songs clearly influenced by Tolkien, though they put their own spin on the stories. I mention them partly for that but MOSTLY because they also worked with Christopher Lee who did some spoken word for one album, but then followed up with him SINGING with them in collaboration. Seriously, look that one up! It's the song "The Magic of the Wizard's Dream". The original track was in "Symphony of Enchanted Lands II" but they released a single version as well The single version features Christopher MUCH more strongly.

    • @rachelmarks8601
      @rachelmarks8601 3 місяці тому +1

      @@captainboots I was wondering why ROF and Christopher’s own music wasn’t mentioned. I was already panicking wondering when Blind Guardian would be mentioned 😅

  • @jarlbregadan914
    @jarlbregadan914 4 місяці тому +31

    Oh yes, 2 of my favorite things in life, Tolkien and metal, and all in one video. You certainly know how to deliver.

    • @GirlNextGondor
      @GirlNextGondor  4 місяці тому +10

      It's amazing how often those 2 interests overlap 🤣 though maybe not surprising!

    • @jarlbregadan914
      @jarlbregadan914 4 місяці тому +4

      @@GirlNextGondor When I was 15 I thought I was an anomaly, then I realized how common it actually is. Now, Tolkien and the other metals, those in the shape of bars and disks, that's rarer.

    • @sebastianevangelista4921
      @sebastianevangelista4921 4 місяці тому +2

      @@GirlNextGondor Us metalheads love things that are epic and/or dark, and Middle Earth has those in abundance!

  • @EriktheRed2023
    @EriktheRed2023 4 місяці тому +9

    "There's a feeling I get when I look to the West
    And my spirit is crying for leaving."
    Led Zeppelin were clearly fans.

    • @Heike--
      @Heike-- 4 місяці тому +2

      Their most famous song(wow) "Stairway to Heaven" is about Galadriel, and this is canon. Heck, my favorite song, "Battle of Evermore" is openly Tolkien and contains the lyric, "The Ringwraiths are out in black"

  • @scripturalcontexts
    @scripturalcontexts 4 місяці тому +7

    I informally refer to Ramble On as "Gollum Stole my Woman"

  • @LOSTKILLERDRAENEI
    @LOSTKILLERDRAENEI 4 місяці тому +15

    Nightwish did so much Symphonic Metal about Tolkien, Elvenpath was my jam in the 2000s! :D

    • @ecthelion1735
      @ecthelion1735 4 місяці тому +4

      And Wishmaster is full of references.

    • @MadAtreides1
      @MadAtreides1 4 місяці тому

      @@ecthelion1735 Wishmaster is about Dragonlance, not LotR.

    • @ecthelion1735
      @ecthelion1735 4 місяці тому +2

      @@MadAtreides1 It's a bit of a mishmash:
      >oh Elbereth
      >oh Lorien
      >Grey Havens my destiny

  • @yarcasm
    @yarcasm 4 місяці тому +7

    "God help you if you can't distinguish from doom metal from black metal, or industrial from death-thrash"
    She gets us! 🤘

  • @Pendragon667
    @Pendragon667 4 місяці тому +7

    "I'm more rock and roll than you've ever been. Don't believe me? Ask Led Zeppelin."
    I just love how ERB paid tribute to this.

    • @Heike--
      @Heike-- 4 місяці тому +2

      And then for a moment they insert a clearly Led Zeppelin-derived riff
      Legendary. The best GRRM diss ever.

  • @neala_alean
    @neala_alean 2 місяці тому +1

    having just come back from Wacken I have to emphasize how powerful and downright magical it is to hear literally tens of thousands of people singing along to Blind Guardian's Middle Earth inspired songs

  • @jacobsedlack1173
    @jacobsedlack1173 4 місяці тому +13

    Mirror mirror on the wall
    True hope lies beyond the coast
    You're a damned kind can't you see
    That the winds will change
    Mirror mirror on the wall
    True hope lies beyond the coast
    You're a damned kind can't you see
    That tomorrow bears insanity

  • @Dystisis
    @Dystisis 4 місяці тому +24

    Summoning 👍

    • @fuseblower8128
      @fuseblower8128 4 місяці тому +4

      Summoning is brilliant. I often have Bauglir on loop 😁

  • @sebastianevangelista4921
    @sebastianevangelista4921 4 місяці тому +5

    "¡Están llevando los hobbits a Isengard!" - Google Translate
    This is a topic that I've been wanting to see someone cover in a video for a long, long time! You would be glad to know that Melodicka Bros did a metal cover of They're Taking the Hobbits to Isengard and it''s just as delightful as that sounds. More than a few black metal bands have gotten their names from Black Speech, but despite being a metalhead I'm not that into black metal and find that fact more interesting than the actual bands haha. PS Jess of the Shire has two excellent videos titled 'The Lord of the Rings Musical: What HAPPENED??' and 'Tolkien's Magical Music- A Deep Dive' that I would highly recommend watching.

  • @mikedonohue9927
    @mikedonohue9927 4 місяці тому +8

    Love you including my favorite band Rush!!!

  • @lasernatoo0
    @lasernatoo0 4 місяці тому +5

    Tolkien evidently did know about the Ballad of Bilbo Baggins. In Hammond and Scull's J.R.R. Tolkien Companion and Guide (Chronology volume), in the entry for 20 June 1968: "Joy Hill writes to Tolkien, sending a copy of a letter from the Performing Lights Society about 'The Ballad of Bilbo Baggins' which Tolkien has evidently asked to have investigated." I don't think we have any info beyond that.

  • @lasernatoo0
    @lasernatoo0 4 місяці тому +11

    In case people aren't aware, Nightfall in Middle-earth also has a couple bonus tracks ('Doom' and 'The Tides of War') that aren't available on streaming, but you can listen to them on UA-cam. The Tides of War is one of the best songs on the album imo

    • @onatgz
      @onatgz 4 місяці тому +2

      what? blind guardian is my all time favourite band with nime being my all time fave. i remember buying the casette tape more than 2 decades ago. first time i've heard of these. what? how?
      edit: ok i had heard doom before, at least. still shocked tho. thx.

    • @angels2online
      @angels2online 4 місяці тому +1

      @@onatgz they are bonus songs that came out only like 4 years ago when the album got rereleased

  • @glowstickofdestiny1290
    @glowstickofdestiny1290 4 місяці тому +21

    Couldn't help but cheer at my screen a little bit when it was finally time to talk about _Nightfall in Middle-Earth._
    ... Yeah I definitely have to go listen to it again now

  • @orchardhouse9241
    @orchardhouse9241 4 місяці тому +3

    Someday, I am going to make a recording of The Fall of Gil-galad to the tune "Vexilla Regis" (The Royal Banners Forward Go). It's a beautifully mournful tune (it's a hymn sung in Holy Week) and I believe Tolkien would have known it. Both The Fall of Gil-galad and Vexilla Regis are in long metre (88.88), Tolkien himself used a similar style of music in his song, so I think my idea is reasonable.

  • @frankvandorp2059
    @frankvandorp2059 4 місяці тому +3

    Nightfall in Middle Earth is epic. I went to Blind Guardian two weeks ago in Tilburg and they played quite a few songs from it, Nightfall and Mirror Mirror, as usual, but also Into the Storm and Time Stands Still. In addition they played their older "Lord of the Rings" song, so there was a lot of Middle Earth at the concert. Everyone chanting along makes the songs twice as epic.
    Going to see them again at Graspop coming Saturday, one of the most fun bands to see live.

  • @stnylan
    @stnylan 4 місяці тому +5

    I remain to this day very taken by the adaptations of many LotR songs in the BBC radio play of the early 80s.

  • @picklerick.n.666
    @picklerick.n.666 4 місяці тому +6

    God bless you and your work young lady next Gondor❤❤❤ respect form Croatia-Europe ❤❤❤

  • @Feanor_Did_Nothing_Wrong
    @Feanor_Did_Nothing_Wrong 4 місяці тому +4

    There's a prog rock/metal band called "Ainur" that is really neat. (Although most of their albums from spotify are purged, you can find some of their songs on youtube) The songs "The Fall of Gondolin" "Kinslaying (The First)" "Spirit of Fire" and "The Great Battle (Or The War of Wrath)" are really really good and I would recommend it to anyone interested in music about The Silmarillion.

    • @Heike--
      @Heike-- 4 місяці тому +4

      Best...handle...ever

  • @RÅNÇIÐ
    @RÅNÇIР4 місяці тому +2

    How fitting. I was just listening to *Foe Hammer* by *Exmotus*

  • @NiclasForsblom
    @NiclasForsblom 4 місяці тому +3

    Tolkien was my gateway into metal, so many hours as a 14 yo trying to figure out Nightfall's lyrics after having only read The Lord Of The Rings. Fun times! Now I listen (at work) to LOTR and Silmarillion yearly.
    Loved the video, and my spotify got 4 new albums to listen through. Thank you!

  • @Helletirme
    @Helletirme 4 місяці тому +4

    I can basically distinct phases of my Tolkien obsession based on which Nightfall in middle earth song I had on repeat at that time (now it's Thorn and Tides of War) xD

  • @tolkiennini
    @tolkiennini 4 місяці тому +5

    I often wonder if in the professor's wildest dreams he would have imagined that his Legendarium's influence would grow so far beyond just literature, even reaching metal music of all things. I got into the Legendarium when I was 11 and I started my metal journey three years later. Now I'm 35 and I'll be visiting England for the first time in a couple of months, so I'll make to sure to go to the pub that's considered Iron Maiden's birthplace and I'll pay my respects to Tolkien's grave. Thank you, Odin!

  • @szymonsala9647
    @szymonsala9647 4 місяці тому +6

    You had me worried till the very end that you somehow missed Blind Guardian. Great video and thanks for recommendation

    • @Enerdhil
      @Enerdhil 4 місяці тому

      If you want to see a long, detailed video on Blind Guardian and Tolkien's influence on their music, check out Steven Gibb's video on the topic. 😁👍

  • @gabrielblanchard3921
    @gabrielblanchard3921 4 місяці тому +19

    I'm sorry, Lexie -- I hate to accuse anyone, and especially a producer of excellent content like yourself, of being untruthful; but I don't believe you _do_ hate to end on a bad pun.

  • @jameshumphrey2345
    @jameshumphrey2345 4 місяці тому +7

    Seven words: Where there's a whip, there's a way.

    • @Heike--
      @Heike-- 4 місяці тому +3

      They use men's choirs for the Orc songs in an attempt to make them sound scary, but only succeed in making them sound bad-ass. That song *pops*

    • @root13pie
      @root13pie 4 місяці тому

      I sing this every time when I watch that part of Return of the King. No one gets it. :)

  • @Reeveli
    @Reeveli 4 місяці тому +4

    Shout-out for the three Elven Oratory albums by Lind Erebros. They are mostly orchestral (and sung in Quenya/Sindarin!) but there are some metal tracks as well. Strong recommend for anyone into the First Age. They are still available for purchase at least in iTunes and for listening here in YT.

  • @annafdd
    @annafdd 4 місяці тому +3

    Also, the track that opens my Tolkien UA-cam playlist is the Oath of Fëanor by Philip Menzies, which is a bit of an amateur recording but has the best Quenya translation and is both ominous and stirring.
    VANDA SINA CARILMË
    Fírië mahtuvalme sena fai ré-metta,
    Rúþë tenn' Ambar-metta!
    Á hlarë vandalma
    Eru Ilúvatar!
    Mi Oiolossë á hlarë ar ná astarmo
    Ar á enyalë vandalma, Manwë Vardayë!

  • @joshgarcia2092
    @joshgarcia2092 4 місяці тому +7

    Terrific video! I saw Blind Guardian in 2015 and they played most of Nightfall in Middle Earth-truly life changing! Grateful as a metalhead to have you exposing more people to these bands!

    • @VoIcanoman
      @VoIcanoman 4 місяці тому

      That's a killer album. It's too bad that Hansi can't hit the high notes anymore. I'd love to see them play "The Curse of Fëanor" live, but alas, it's not going to happen. Even "Mirror Mirror" is currently beyond him (he sings down an octave for large parts of the song).

    • @Enerdhil
      @Enerdhil 4 місяці тому

      If you haven't seen Steven Gibb's video on Blind Guardian's music, you should check it out.😁👍

  • @jpfischer6003
    @jpfischer6003 4 місяці тому +3

    As soon as I saw the title of this video, I wondered if you'd mention Nightfall in Middle Earth. Epic album!

  • @EriktheRed2023
    @EriktheRed2023 4 місяці тому +8

    The Tolkien Ensemble's version of The Song of Nimrodel (which Legolas sings/translates to the Fellowship when they first enter Lothórien) is the best I've heard, and Legolas' Song to the Sea is appropriately haunting. Five out of five stars, will listen again.

  • @valaraukar_595
    @valaraukar_595 4 місяці тому +8

    Not a topic I thought I would be particularly interested in, but I’m halfway through and I’m diligently taking notes.

    • @Enerdhil
      @Enerdhil 4 місяці тому +3

      I ran out of ink.😅

    • @Heike--
      @Heike-- 4 місяці тому +2

      Please do...this video badly needs a list of all music mentioned within.

  • @jankrizkovsky9446
    @jankrizkovsky9446 4 місяці тому +5

    Oh nice! New songs to the list!
    As a Czech, I recently got to enjoy an illustrated album with atmospheric instrumentals and thematic songs on Middle-Earth places and currently we are getting a cycle on Children of Húrin from the fan scene. There was even a songbook and regularly updated website and one group does sort of lovely amateur musicals for cons. I once found a gramophone of a guy singing Earendil to accordion. I always like seeing people inspired by Middle-Earth to draw, sing, play, paint, shoot, larp, write and compose poetry etc. It really does have an impact on people.

  • @arcuscotangens
    @arcuscotangens 4 місяці тому +4

    I can absolutely confirm the comment on Nighfall in Middle Earth. It was one of the first few metal albums I listened to as a teen, and got me absolutely hooked. While I'm not a big fan of Blind Guardian anymore, I can't hear or read the words 'time stands still' without adding 'at the iron hill' in my head.

  • @douglasoglu
    @douglasoglu 4 місяці тому +5

    I love that your Tolkienian pronunciation is always meticulously on point, and yet you managed to stumble over the correct combination of phonemes and stresses for 'Birmingham' 😜

  • @WhoIsCalli
    @WhoIsCalli 3 місяці тому +1

    This was great Lexi. Had no idea I needed this content. You really do produce the most amazing video essays

  • @MoritzGruber7
    @MoritzGruber7 20 днів тому

    "... another kind of rock was made". That was really awesomely written (and performed).

  • @tornadomuchacho
    @tornadomuchacho 4 місяці тому +6

    Between you and Steven Gibb I have found myself well down the Hobbit hole of dungeon synth and metal as I reread the Silmarillion and adjacent texts for the second time this year. Thanks as always. Best content creator on UA-cam.

  • @Disgruntled_Grunt
    @Disgruntled_Grunt 4 місяці тому +5

    _We are following the will of the One_
    _Through the dark age and into the storm_
    _Lamina!_

  • @bholdr----0
    @bholdr----0 4 місяці тому +1

    WOW... Yet again, this channel makes some interesting connections that I had never considered, but now find worth consideration in a depth that is almost unique... (Except for Zepp, of course, which I was exposed to even before the LOTR).
    Cheers!

  • @bigsarge2085
    @bigsarge2085 4 місяці тому +3

    Fascinating.
    I know me and my siblings have been using Glen Yarbrough's song "Frodo of the Nine Fingers" (from the cartoon LoTR) as an inside joke for over 30 years!

  • @ecthelion1735
    @ecthelion1735 4 місяці тому +5

    I love this so much. I've been trying to put my finger on the connection between Tolkien and prog rock for quite a while now. Why are their adherents so convergent? Intelligence, I assume.

  • @blacktemplar2323
    @blacktemplar2323 4 місяці тому +4

    For me, The Lord of the Rings was the reason i first found music i could connect with when i stumbled upon Blind Guardians Song "The Lord of the Rings" on UA-cam, which was the followed by me listening to their album "Nightfall in Middle Earth". Up until that point if you had asked me what music i listen to i would have told you that i don't do that.
    Since then i have seen them Live multiple times and discovered various other Metal Bands i thoroughly enjoy.
    So for me Tolkien and Music are very closely linked and i still like to listen to musical renditions of Tolkiens various poems from LoTR and the Silmarillion.

    • @Enerdhil
      @Enerdhil 4 місяці тому

      Great! Have you seen Steven Gibb's video on Tolkien's influence on Blind Guardian's music? It is very long and has great detail. Steven himself is a musician. If you haven't seen it, check it out and subscribe.🙏🏻😁👍

  • @magicalgirlcoco
    @magicalgirlcoco 4 місяці тому +1

    Excellent video!!! You're always passionate in your videos, but I can definitely feel it in this one when you're doing the deep dive into metal inspired by Tolkien! I haven't explored metal much myself, but you've inspired me to go through some of these groups and albums 👀
    You really can find Tolkien influence in music genres everywhere! I'm a kpop fan myself, and Lord of the Rings references unexpectedly pop up every so often there too haha.

  • @annafdd
    @annafdd 4 місяці тому +2

    The bit of Lay of Leithian rock opera where Finrod duelling with Sauron describes dawn over the forests of Nargothrond (popularly known as the Aaaaaaaa song) break my heart every damn time. It is one thing to read about Finrod bringing the songbirds into Tol-n-Gauroth, and another to experience it. It’s a pity that among their compositions, Clamavi De Profundis’ Duel of Finrod and Sauron is not the best.

  • @ImperatorPenguin
    @ImperatorPenguin 4 місяці тому +6

    Aye, indeed do the songs of Clamvi de Profundus stir the heart... every other time I listen to one of their songs. I wake up three days later, and have grown a long beard down to my knees. And I'm armed in chain mail and with an ax in my hand, and I'm lying on a dead Dragon in a treasure hoard. It was fun at first, but now it's getting annoying.

  • @jpbjoel
    @jpbjoel 4 місяці тому +3

    For me, the music I most associate with Tolkien is not music about his writings, it’s music that I imagine them listening to. When I was a kid, it was “medieval folk rock” - think _Songs From the Wood_. Now, it’s simply medieval music with a big heaping helping of English rural music from 1800-1940s.

    • @dustwyrm
      @dustwyrm 4 місяці тому

      Could you help point me to the English rural music? I've been trying to find some for hobbit vibes, but I've had very little luck. All I can find is Irish.

  • @joseraulcapablanca8564
    @joseraulcapablanca8564 4 місяці тому +4

    It is worth mentioning that both Tolkiens work and heavy metal grew out of the midlands in England and were both at least to some extent were a rejection of the industrialisation of the area. Also always worth mentioning Galadriel by Barclay James Harvest. Good stuff GNG. Thanks.

    • @anonymouswitness3835
      @anonymouswitness3835 4 місяці тому

      Ooh yeh there's that sort of ... pastoralism? I don't know if that's the right word for it. Which adds another dimension to black metal's particular interest in Tolkien. There's definitely an anti-industrial tendency in black metal.

    • @joseraulcapablanca8564
      @joseraulcapablanca8564 4 місяці тому +1

      @@anonymouswitness3835 I think pastoralism is a good word for Tolkiens attitude. I am no fan of metal, and despite living in Norway for nearly fifteen years am definitely not a black metal fan. But I’ll take your word on its inherent pastoralism.

  • @ecthelion1735
    @ecthelion1735 4 місяці тому +7

    The credits artwork is A+. Bravo 👏

  • @robingile4301
    @robingile4301 4 місяці тому +4

    Music, poetry, and the fine efforts of Rob Ingles added much to things we have of the master.

  • @jacobshore5115
    @jacobshore5115 4 місяці тому +1

    So glad you referenced Blind Guardian! Love them! And their Lord of the Rings songs! (Didn’t know Nightwish did those songs too! They’re cool as well!)

  • @jennipherem3695
    @jennipherem3695 4 місяці тому +4

    I'm a big fan of Paul Cornfield Godfrey's work, as inaccessibly long as it might be...
    This year I started my own musical settings of Tolkien: adapting his 'Noel' (rediscovered in my hometown in 2013) into a christmas carol, and making my own 'Narrative Songs' out of the books - technically Operettas, with classical/folk/historical musical scenes from the books linked by light narration and drama, starting with the diagetic music of the Dwarves. Rereading the books with this in mind I've been struck by how much music is infused into the drama even when Tolkien doesn't give us verses, in some of the places you'd least expect. Take Helm’s Deep, where the Uruk-hai advance up the valley with 'harsh singing', the great horn of helm is answered by the horns of Erkenbrand from all around the hills, and the warriors, women and children of the Westfold sing a song of victory. I'm on the fence about whether to create composite texts to include songs like this in what is to be a quite a brisk representation of The Lord of the Rings in 3 acts. For some of my ambitions, I'm relying on certain inclusions in the Collected Poems released later this year. Fingers crossed the estate will one day let me release some of this.

  • @ay2431
    @ay2431 4 місяці тому +5

    As a musician who has probably spent way too much of my time with all these works, this video was a lovely walk through one of my favourite topics. Loved your explanation on diegesis and non-diegesis! The way it's used in the peter jackson movies are some of my favourite examples. A lot of scenes depicting the ring's temptation actually have lyrics that feel as if the ring is talking to the people in question, which makes it super interesting to analyse. If you know it's there, you could make an argument that these scenes really walk the line between diegesis and non-diegesis.

  • @DonMeaker
    @DonMeaker 4 місяці тому +2

    Donald Swan's "The Road Goes Ever On" still spring easily to my mind.

  • @RigelDeneb172
    @RigelDeneb172 4 місяці тому

    Your video essays--but particularly this one--have me exclaiming, "I did not know that!" and "That's so interesting!" Thanks for increasing my knowledge base and enriching my world.
    I will admit to a fondness for the infamous "Tra-la-lally" song--sometimes there is no accounting for taste. A good tune improves it (as a good tune will prop up weak lyrics). I created tunes for almost all of the verse in The Hobbit to sing to my younger sisters and later in life to my own children.as another way of sharing the tale with them. That one man should have inspired so much creativity in so many others in so many ways is phenomenal, yes?

  • @kurisuuu48
    @kurisuuu48 3 місяці тому

    The German Folk-Metal-band Feuerschwanz has done songs based on Tolkien as well, Rohirrim and Uruk-Hai, and to a certain degree the song "Kampfzwerg" and its English version "Wardwarf" as well. They are always super fun during concerts :D

  • @turinturambar1159
    @turinturambar1159 4 місяці тому +2

    The Eldar are probably praising you from Aman! You've done it again!!

  • @therakshasan8547
    @therakshasan8547 4 місяці тому +1

    Your indepth research of the artists that wrote the songs akin to LotR story is impressive , and appreciated .

  • @AragornGhost15
    @AragornGhost15 27 днів тому

    I can't express how I love Nightfall in Middle Earth. All of theirs songs have so many amazing lyrics.
    "She is gone... Leaves are falling down.
    The Tear Maiden will not return...
    The seal of Oblivion is Broken...
    And a pure love's been turn to sin"
    "Denied by my love and my ennemies,
    I am the ill gotten son"
    "The words of a banished King
    I swear REVENGE"
    "He gleams like a star and the sound of his horn
    Like a raging storm
    Proudly the High Lore challenges Doom
    LORD OF SLAVES HE CRIED"
    "And blooood tears I cry..."
    And special thanks to "Tides of War" that maybe has my favourite second verse of all times, including the thougths of Feanor and the guilt of Maedhros

  • @markwarner5554
    @markwarner5554 4 місяці тому +3

    As a devout lover of both tolkien and metal, I deeply appreciate this whole video, and especially your colorful description of the the heavier contributions to your topic.

  • @michaelogrady232
    @michaelogrady232 4 місяці тому +2

    Knowing Tolkien's background and the place of the elves in his universe, I always thought of elvish songs as being more like polyphonic chant.

    • @sophiejones3554
      @sophiejones3554 4 місяці тому +2

      Which elves?
      Even only considering the Eldar, those who began the journey to Valinor, there are six distinct groups who would presumably have somewhat different musical sensibilities. There is an additional five groups of Avari, those elves who refused to undertake the journey (based on Tolkien recording five different cognates of the word "Quendi"). The Eldar who come into our stories the most fall into two major categories: Noldor and Teleri. The Teleri are further broken into three categories, Amanyar, Sindar, and Nandor/Sylvan.
      To me, polyphonic chant seems like a Noldo thing: they would like the intricate harmonies and textures created by true counterpoint, as well as the opportunity for virtuosic displays. And I think they would go for more formalized ensembles with standardized voice parts, which you kind of need for polyphonic chant. Their tradition would have become highly formalized in Valinor, where elves could devote the time necessary to fine tune a performance for maximum effect. The exile would have loosened those boundaries a little bit, as the demands of wartime Beleriand made certain shortcuts necessary and the exiles were influenced by their Telerin and dwarvish allies. But, these were still highly trained and disciplined musicians with high stamina and used to rigorous practicing: some of them virtuosos with truly astonishing capabilities. But military choirs would absolutely be a thing among the Noldo exiles, and in the real world those are some of the most capable choirs. The Soviet military choir produced some very beautiful recordings in six-part polyphony, the six part division with heavier bass than treble is standard for Russian choral singing. There's also one group of Noldor whom Tolkien gives us an interesting clue about: the Gondolindrim.
      In the Nirnaeth Arnoediad, Tolkien describes the warriors of Gondolin forming a "phalanx": a word that never appears again in the Legendarium. This tells us that he conceived of Gondolin having a Greek/Byzantine aesthetic: so this would presumably apply to their music as well. In the West, polyphony developed using four parts (initially, either four treble or four bass parts as this tradition developed in monasteries first before being adopted by the rest of society). But in the East, choirs were always mixed (bass and treble, not mixed gender) and so the standard division of voices was into six parts with four bass parts and two treble parts. You still see this in Russian choral music, both sacred and secular. Most pieces aren't full polyphony, rather the choir is divided into three sections. The two parts in each section generally sing in close harmony with each other (thirds and fourths are common) while the polyphony occurs between the sections. E.g. the two bass parts move together in parallel thirds, but both are in 2:1 counterpoint with the two tenors. Unlike church choirs though, I do think the Gondolindrim would sing in mixed gender ensembles so they would probably not have quite as much emphasis on the bass. Particularly since the nature of vocal chords is to thicken with age, so very few elves would be low basses (though not none, some men's voices just dive into the deep end immediately while others never get there at all). Their voice divisions might look something more like Baritone, Tenor 2, Tenor 1, Alto, Soprano 2, Soprano 1: with the Alto and Baritone in unison at the octave.

    • @michaelogrady232
      @michaelogrady232 4 місяці тому +1

      @@sophiejones3554 Thanks for the breakdown!

  • @PrimalDirective
    @PrimalDirective 4 місяці тому +1

    An Italian band named Emyn Muil is also entirely Tolkien lore focused
    Their released albums are:
    Túrin Turambar Dagnir Glaurunga
    Elenion Ancalima
    Afar Angathfark
    Highly recommend them, as well as Summoning, Dwarrowdelf and Firienholt
    By association the genre these all belong to is dubbed Epic Black Metal
    One act, also inspired by a series of novels, this being Malazan Book of the Fallen by Steven Erikson, called Caladan Brood might be the epitome of the genre, though Summoning and the band Windir are held as it's progenitors

    • @sit-insforsithis1568
      @sit-insforsithis1568 4 місяці тому

      Italians really love their middle earth

    • @PrimalDirective
      @PrimalDirective 4 місяці тому

      @@sit-insforsithis1568
      That's right, Summoning is Italian too 😂

  • @michaelogrady232
    @michaelogrady232 4 місяці тому +1

    Ramble On remains one of my fave songs to this day.

  • @guillee12
    @guillee12 4 місяці тому +4

    I SWEEEEAAAAR REVEEEENGE
    FILLED WITH ANGER AFLAMED OUR HEARTS
    FULL OF HATE
    FULL OF PRIDE
    AHHHHH WE SCREEAAM FOR REVEEENGE

  • @freddb1975
    @freddb1975 3 місяці тому

    This is the most comprehensive review of Tolkien's work inspired music I've ever seen. I have Rush's album Fly by Night and Blind Guardian's Nightfall in Middle Earth, and I've listened to Led Zeppelin's Tolkien inspired songs. Thank you for this review.

  • @waelisc
    @waelisc 4 місяці тому +1

    The music for the BBC radio adaptations of the Hobbit, by the Early Music Consort of London and for LotR, by Stephen Oliver, will always be up there, for me

  • @philipcraig6230
    @philipcraig6230 4 місяці тому +1

    Blind Guardian have more Tolkein-inspired songs than the 'Nightfall in Middle-Earth' album. There's a ballad named 'Lord of the Rings', two songs named 'The Bard's Song' ('In the Forest' & 'The Hobbit') and a couple of instrumentals on their debut album ('Gandalf's Rebirth' & By the Gates or Moria's). Definitely worth checking these out too! 'The Bard's Song - In The Forest' is a particular fan favourite where the band let the fans sing the whole song.
    Amon Amarth are an odd one. They're named after a location in Middle-Earth but their songs are about Viking history & Norse mythology. Bit of a mixed concept.😅

    • @ardaea2529
      @ardaea2529 4 місяці тому

      In The Forest isn't related to Middle-earth. It's actually related to the game "The Bard's Tale".

    • @philipcraig6230
      @philipcraig6230 4 місяці тому +1

      @@ardaea2529 fair enough 💡it does have a line about "hobbits, dwarves and men and elves" which is quite Tolkein-esque

  • @acuerdox
    @acuerdox 4 місяці тому +3

    if you go to Udio and search "Aran Umbarwa" and "Zagûl Maugar" you can hear some weirdly well made songs sanged in actual tolkien languages.

  • @mikehoffler4097
    @mikehoffler4097 4 місяці тому +2

    When my kids were about 8, and I would listen to Zep IV in the car on the way home from school, I would always point out the Tolkien references, since they had been exposed to the movies much earlier.

  • @SteveAllen-vz4pb
    @SteveAllen-vz4pb 4 місяці тому

    Cant forget Zeppelin with Misty Mountain Hop and meantioning Gollum and Moria in Ramble On

  • @billberndtson
    @billberndtson 4 місяці тому +3

    Your topics are often the most fascinating, Lexi. 😀 I've heard a great deal of Tolkien related/inspired music having been born in the 70s but, with songs like Orome, Silmaril, Aule & Yavanna, and more, I'm impressed with the German singer/songwriter Oonagh. I can't understand German all that well but, it doesn't appear to matter much with her stuff.

  • @colindunnigan8621
    @colindunnigan8621 4 місяці тому +7

    Oh, my cup doth runneth over...and floods the entire house!

    • @GirlNextGondor
      @GirlNextGondor  4 місяці тому +2

      Sorry about that 🤣

    • @annafdd
      @annafdd 4 місяці тому +1

      That’s surely the best way to honor Beleriand.

  • @reflectiverambling1148
    @reflectiverambling1148 4 місяці тому +4

    This is AMAZING. I like your point of why maybe the stage versions haven't been great. Though I heard great things about the latest staging... I admit I'm slightly surprised the NIghtwish given the nod as I usually think of them being known more for literary nod when it comes to Dragonlance. Also, I love the "band instead of murder" world you've proposed.

    • @GirlNextGondor
      @GirlNextGondor  4 місяці тому +3

      They still get kicked out of Aman, but the lack of murder means they succeed in convincing Daeron to join on their sophomore album. 🤣

    • @reflectiverambling1148
      @reflectiverambling1148 4 місяці тому

      @@GirlNextGondor headcanon accepted.

    • @annafdd
      @annafdd 4 місяці тому

      @@GirlNextGondorFinrod on backing vocals. They have a track with Luthien as guest vocalist, and opinions on that are divided between those who find it spellbinding and those who fall asleep to it, plus a substantial minority who just want to buy the record for their metalhead boyfriend.

    • @sebastianevangelista4921
      @sebastianevangelista4921 4 місяці тому +2

      Imagine in Morgoth and Sauron formed a band instead of setting their sights on world domination! They could have even brought on Saruman for vocals (Christopher Lee made metal albums in his 80s btw).

  • @shanenolan5625
    @shanenolan5625 4 місяці тому +6

    Than you lexi . I have always thought. God thinks in numbers ( science or something) and music is like math on some level.
    We also have the angelic choir .. also got anointed David because of his music.
    I hear there was a secret cord that David played and it pleased the Lord.
    I agree with Tolkien and strings..

  • @oschiott
    @oschiott 4 місяці тому +1

    So strange to see such a video without a single mention of Marillion. Except for this rather obvious ommision, I think this a a very entertaining video with lots of new information, for me, at least. Kudos, GirlNextGondor!

  • @jeremiahmiller3310
    @jeremiahmiller3310 4 місяці тому +4

    As a metalhead, I have to say... the Rankin Bass flicks have some bangin' takes on Tolkien's lyrics. (Along with a few annoying ones too, I suppose.)

    • @EriktheRed2023
      @EriktheRed2023 4 місяці тому +1

      Where there's a whip there's a way!

  • @dracodis
    @dracodis 4 місяці тому +2

    I can't help but wonder not just how Tolkien might react to the scope of his influence, but also if and how he might judge it. For comparison, the Iron Maiden song "To Tame a Land" was originally going to be named "Dune," but after asking for permission, the band was notified that "Frank Herbert doesn't like rock bands, particularly heavy rock bands, and especially bands like Iron Maiden." I hate to be a pessimist (especially since I personally love all this music from the Rankin-Bass interpretations to Nimoy's ballad to Nightwish, etc.), but Tolkien might be happier /not/ having known some of this, ha ha!
    (That being said, I'm sure that with his academic background and the periods that interested him, he would have a much greater appreciation and understanding of artistic influence than many other modern artists who wish to completely control every possible aspect and derivation of their work.)

  • @MuseTubeix
    @MuseTubeix 4 місяці тому +2

    Thank you so much for putting this video out! I'm a musician. Although there are some high-level things you didn't put quite right, you still definitely got your point across for the layperson. If you want a topic to go back to sometime, this is the one! Most importantly, thank you for so many musical recommendations!

    • @GirlNextGondor
      @GirlNextGondor  4 місяці тому +2

      I did not dare set my sights higher than "convey the perspective of an interested layperson" 😅 so thank you!

    • @MuseTubeix
      @MuseTubeix 4 місяці тому +1

      @@GirlNextGondor You should look into the Lord of the Rings symphony for winds by Johan DeMeij. New Line apparently asked him to adapt it for the movies, but he turned them down. Still, Shore's score has subtleties that I could go on for hours about!

  • @mjlamey1066
    @mjlamey1066 4 місяці тому

    One of the best takes I've ever heard on Tolkien-related music was that the singing that takes place in the Fellowship of the Ring movie before Galadriel starts speaking is actually the portion of the Music of the Ainur singing the events of Lord of the Rings into existence. How true Howard Shore intended that to be, idk, but I think it's a pretty cool idea.

  • @charlieboone1298
    @charlieboone1298 4 місяці тому +2

    One of my favourite crust punk bands, Ekkia, take their name from the Encircling Sea. Granted, their lyrical content has nothing to do with Middle-Earth (I think, my Spanish is lousy,) but I love how it seeps across languages and genres.

  • @joshuapatrick682
    @joshuapatrick682 4 місяці тому +3

    Led Zeppelin and Rush come to mind as major examples, and the former was clearly an influence on metal.

  • @Video456325
    @Video456325 4 місяці тому +6

    I’ve noticed that your videos are very rewatch able on top of being interesting. Keep up the good work!

  • @yarchell
    @yarchell 4 місяці тому

    I haven't watched the full video yet, but I hope you mentioned Nimrodel by Camel from Mirage album. Magnificent tune

  • @carlcramer9269
    @carlcramer9269 4 місяці тому

    Some work for Spotify at my place. I had already spotted Clamavi De Profundis, but there is more to be found here!

  • @benbrown8258
    @benbrown8258 4 місяці тому +2

    While the Lord of the Rings Musical (A. R. Rahman, Värttinä, and Christopher Nightingale) have people who've hated it or loved it and most found it not quite pure canon, musically I found the music very theatrically descriptive of the mood across the books for at least the characters they covered. There is a guy who arranged his very metal interpretation of Howard Shore's work, but, I can't find it in my favorites or likes. It was really good.

    • @benbrown8258
      @benbrown8258 4 місяці тому

      I found the man in question, SBeast.