I rooted around looking for some case studies of the Pearl River Tower, which show the renewables actually make only about 10% of the building electricity: Biomass energy recovery @ 1.2 MW offsets 5% of monthly building energy- almost same as the Solar, which is also 5%. The Wind contributes further 3-5%, up to max 10%. The numbers differ but generally agreed wind NOT cost effective. The biggest contributor to saving energy is the novel fresh air delivery system. I don't know if they achieved their 40% energy reduction target. It was determined that the best way to save energy when designing is by employing more efficient systems.
As a solar power enthusiast, what brought me to this thread is the title which I think is misleading and untrue. Just looking at the building make me wonder how on earth can you generate its own electricity. Yes you have hit the button but more efficient system is about cutting down usage too.
either way, they have done very well, by the way, what is your expertise apart from personal comment to make this statement. Sure you might have searched you tube, but in reality most arcticals are personal opinion only, just making clips to make money. No matter what these guys have achieved great results, even if not up to expected expeditions. I would say you are Arerican, brainwashed by your government to think China is bad
Like I've said what brought me to this video is the title of "generate its own electricity". Being in engineering my whole life and now building my own solar power system abide a small one now , I think the world need to know more of how to sustain green energy and even climate change. By the way I'm from SE Asia and my ancestors are from China.
What strikes me most is the strive for achievement and success by ambitious, innovative and creative professionals like these architects, construction engineers and designers to fulfil their dreams and create marvels whenever, wherever they can. We must celebrate people like these. Great job.
I believe many of these technologies were realized at the NEC headquarters building in Japan over 30 years ago. Of course, I think it has evolved since then.
Awesome structure, and excellent architecture, engineering, and execution by all the teams involved. This building is a predecessor to many forward-thinking structure to come.
The video said the net zero is a goal and the proposed turbine will send electricity back to the city grid for the net zero goal. We should praise the engineer intent and efforts to make this building a low energy consumption structure.
The revolutionary dynamic nature of this building is a testimony to the benefits of the engineering and testing process for both large and small scale construction projects. it is also a testimony to the excellent skilled labor force they have in china.
The nature of a building is NOT a testimony to the skills of the labor force. Moreover, most techniques came from outside China, including the engineering and testing standards.
@@paulwassenaar8351 - Regardless (though true), the Chinese people are clearly massively talented and are proving their way to being a First World Nation and force to be reckoned with.
This is an old film. I used to live nearby of this site and watched this tower went up day by day. It was 12 years ago. Not sure if it's working as they claimed.
just look how clean those Harness, they only use it for videos. plus even that is wrong anyway, no shock Absorber Stretchable Lanyard. safety is not existed in china anyway.
well, as an aerodynamicist, sticking a couple (very small) VAWT's in those venturis is kind of a waste, so i guess this was mostly a gimmick. whats the point of building those slots and then sticking in a turbine which captures such a small subset of the flow?
When they showed the design of the vertical wind turbines I thought that meant they could fit multiple turbines in each opening. Maybe 4-6. I was surprised they only did one per opening, not even two. Is there some technical reason they couldn't do at least two? Either side by side, or one on the north end and one on the south end of the opening?
@@AmyEugene Turbomachinery is quite complex to design. The best configuration from a flow perspective would have been horizontal axis machine utilizing the full inlet flow (why waste any at all?). Of course, setting this up and supporting it, cantilevering a synchronous machine to generate the electricity etc off the edge of the building in this configuration would have been basically impossible (and visually ugly). So i guess they chose some small VAWT's to greenwash and make some sort of eco selling point. As to your specific question, no, generally one wouldnt want multiple machines in a (that) space. One large machine consuming all the streamlines is what you would want.
@@KamvaGwadiso Well I do have a PhD in turbomachinery aerothermodynamics, which i assume is more than you (from your bio, you seem to be an expert in 'deep trance" and music downloading) and i do design turbines all day long for a major aerospace company, so perhaps I am entitled to a couple small comments ... 🤔
@@icojb25 I wasn't trying to be disrespectful, I was just asking and I'm currently furthering my studies in computers (currently learning software development ) and soon I will be enrolling in Computer Science and few years later get my PhD in Computer Science. Otherwise I wasn't going to write about my life in UA-cam bio.
@@vintageludwig Oh. What's with the sharp edges then? Maybe you meant the concave side and rounded top reminds of the cross section. Anyway I'm personally way too scared of stimulating a cancer with my luck. I leave it alone
@ 4:45 , fabricating curved box beam is a science and art. Hence, only special steel fabrication shop can meet the challenge. In fact USA has only one steel fabrication shop that can mass produce curved box beam. But China has several; that’s should tell you something.
It would be interesting if you could provide a link (source reference) for that statement (not saying it isn't true). But it's certainly true, that the size and scale (and speed) at which China builds projects is World Class (World Leading) and very impressive. China is most definitely a force to be reckoned with. The size of those curved box beams (and the building in general) was massive.
Im 30 seconds in and im calling it now, it may be we dont know the answer to this til the building is done but based on the shape this is gonna be one of those buildings that focuses sunlight onto cars or the street or other buildings and starts melting the shit out of everything
We need more buildings like this in the US and keep striving for eco- friendly buildings. I can't believe how short of a time frame it takes to get your money back and start earning a profit.
Seems like they should have built this tower in San Francisco. They could easily have kept the micro turbines and did net metering. Plus the ocean breeze coming on shore is probably the most reliable place in the World, and there is plenty of sunshine with a cool wind which will keep the solar panels more efficient.
Fantastic! 👍Genius 🙏Can we study how well it has performed since completion in 2011? Can we then use this tech in new construction? Striving for Net Zero!❤
It probably whoefully underperformed. Technically it does not make sense to put turbines into buildings. It is better to just built them somewhere useful and bigger.
Net zero is a joke for that building. The four wind turbines are tiny compared to the building. The solar panels are only on a small portion of the surface. The gas turbines use natural gas, so even if allowed, do not count as net zero. A lot of smoke and mirrors.
@@seanitoism The crane is lifting a stack of steel that caught the wood 4x4 supporting the stack over or maybe they never told the operator about the wood plank... either way what happens next is that wood support snaps as it is between 2 stacks of steel and these 2 complete idiots walking towards it will need new underware and pants at least as having 1000kg of steel fall next to you is the least you get if you are lucky. That next shot of him looking up is probably him being mad pissed of the crane operator almost crushing him during the shoot...
A thought occurred to me a little while after watching this. The act of mining and processing the raw materials for steel, glass, and concrete along with the power and energy for construction of this massive building produced several hundred tons of CO2 and green house gasses. Is such an endeavor worth it when we are trying to limit our output. Couldn't we build smaller spaces that allow people to gather without the wasteful processes used here?
No, because the ecologist people also want to stuff earth with as many earthlings as possible. So they’re in a vice: Reducing the consumption per person only helps overcrowding more people per square meter, all the while never, I tell you, never save on pollution or energy. You’ve been lied to. The goal of ecologists is not ecology. Sorry to burst that bubble.
@42:52 you see a large weather strip sticking out between 2 window panes also not the first building with integrated wind turbines there is one in London UK but because of residential complaints thay are not used
Wind Tunnels have some data that might be helpful. It will be interesting to see if their design achieves some reasonable approximation of their target energy goals. Everyone interviewed is so Positive, Smiling, UPBeat. I am eager beyond words to know how the design is performing. Time to do some searching....
I fail to see how they got rid of the dripping ceiling from high humidity. We have water coolers at work and after years of disrepair, they leak. This looks like a massive mold - rain problem from the beginning.
This every each process and material with construction could be updated on more higher level, something like The Skyscraper That Generates Its Own Electricity | Megastructures | Spark II , and will be most advanced building and technology, with best outview around this building ) This new building could in autonomous mode by itself clean air polution from carbon dioxide too
Worth noting that the efficiency of the wind generation depends greatly on maintaining un-obstructed flow of air in the vicinity. The designers and builders surely must have done studies to determine how the addition of other structures in the vicinity would introduce turbulence and reduce the efficiency of the overall design. Seems a factor that will increasingly come into play regardless of politics, since economic development seems to require further construction roundabout.
I'm only half way through but am wondering if they used the gravity energy generation tech they use in Japan for this. Would be great if we rebuilt many cities with these technologies so we can put a dent in what we're doing to our beautiful home~
This is dangerous anything is miscalculated and the harmonic frequencys will destroy the building. This is why it's not being done in America because nobody wants to insure a first of its kind
Probably having the wind turbine's shaft attached on the ceiling too would have made it more stable. I bet the building maintenance staff loves this building's design...
They went as far as to capture wind, solar and elevator energy, why not utilize the water in the plumbing drains as well? Have a water wheel generator somehow. Big cisterns at different levels that capture the energy of falling water. Just sayin
When I hear the narrator throw around words like "elite, forward thinking, ground breaking " I can only think the script was written for them by the developers and that they are really trying to get the visual out there that they know what they are doing and its all good BUT then I see the thousands of buildings that have come crashing down in China
First, full admiration for the builders and organizers who accomplished this ultra-difficult project. Second, I am suspicious of vanity projects. A building should serve the inhabitants, be comfortable and maintain a good micro-climate. The whole philosophy of subordinating habitation to intermittent wind and solar generation is a dead end. For several 100 thousand years humankind either lived in caves, or tried to build substitutes for them, with a constant aim - to protect itself from the chaos of nature. But after the turn of the century we are toying with whimsical ideas, how to do exactly the opposite - to invite the elements inside. A good wind-tunnel is a bad office building and vice versa. If the energy used, the cooling system, the water heating should depend on unpredictable sources, this means there was planning, based on belief in miracles. Saying that, quite a lot of technologies in the tower devoted to energy efficiency and conservation sound smart and deserve to be widely adopted.
*Maybe a small percentage but there is no way that entire tower is run by wind.. Wind is not always present nor is there enough anything to collect enough power from it to charge an entire building let a lone a red light..*
So much for catching a nice breeze thru a window, and a roof garden would be suicide on a structure built broadside to the wind -as would be washing windows. Relief vents or not, that building had to be overbuilt to withstand wind shear, and what happens when sheet rain blocks those releif vents -during high winds? Fatigue of structural members will set in, and like the airframe it aspired to be, the place will be retired at 30 years of service. A massive expense just to drive windmills. The air replacement system would work fine even if the building were not a giant air-foil, since altitude brings high wind anyway.
Mrs Richards: "I paid for a room with a view !" Basil: (pointing to the lovely view) "That is Torquay, Madam ." Mrs Richards: "It's not good enough!" Basil: "May I ask what you were expecting to see out of a Torquay hotel bedroom window ? Sydney Opera House, perhaps? the Hanging Gardens of Babylon? Herds of wildebeest sweeping majestically past?..." Mrs Richards: "Don't be silly! I expect to be able to see the sea!" Basil: "You can see the sea, it's over there between the land and the sky." Mrs Richards: "I'm not satisfied. But I shall stay. But I expect a reduction." Basil: "Why?! Because Krakatoa's not erupting at the moment ?
I'm not an engineer but question: in the quest for net-0, could a wind turbine of select design be applied to the pinicle where the wind would be constant?
On paper and per design this is good. But for residents the noise and humming can be unbearable. This is evident from the extreme residential high rises in nyc that residents have been complaining about and now many apartments there are empty in addition to their huge costs.
I hope this building works out. Given China's record with tofu dreg construction. I wouldn't be surprised if it failed miserably... But the designers had a lot of cool ideas... Especially the whole airflow and conditioning systems...
Construct an invisible underground geothermal power plant in an adjoining development to help power the building? A carpark above the power plant could have a solar roof & battery packs to feed EV charging outlets? "Enhanced Geothermal Systems (EGS) are maturing technologies where bore holes over three kilometres deep are drilled down to extremely hot underground granite rock. Water is forced into the holes, heated by the rocks and then pumped back through return wells to the surface for use."
48:51 That is false, the Bahrain World Trade Centre was one of the first buildings who was design and shape to take advantage of wind power generation.
Yes, was first! "The Bahrain World Trade Center is a 240-metre-high (787 ft), 50-floor, twin tower complex located in Manama, Bahrain. Designed by the multi-national architectural firm Atkins, construction on the towers was completed in 2008. It is the first skyscraper in the world to integrate wind turbines into its design." The three turbines make a 15% contribution to energy.
Blasting the bed rock is a very bad idea. There's a reason to the thickness of the rock. How do they know by blasting the bed rock won't weaken the strength of the bed rock which is important to support the weight of the building? How do they know the thickness and strength of the bed rock before removing the top off? Do we have technology to fully scan the entire bed rock just to make sure it's safe to erect a tall building? No we don't have. I guess they only assume it's safe to do so after all the owner of the building had already bought the land. Too late to discard the project even if somebody did realise it's isn't safe for high-rise building. Engineers and architects are hired to complete the building on schedule. It doesn't mean the building won't collapse should there be an earthquake hit the building in future. I always question the way tall buildings are built. It's never safe because there isn't a method to do so. It's all plain assumption. So good luck for the owner and the residents. I'll make sure will stay far away from the building. ...
38:58 "with military precision" ='s 1 unforklift certified guy struggling to maintain balance of a floor jack with all the weight of the panel on the last 10% of the floor jack and 2 doods with ropes just trying their best to apply forces all "militarily willy nilly style"
Tell me if I'm wrong : Why the HELL did the builder NOT clean the surface on the junction of structural elements? since the REST of the surface actually IS painted ! At LEAST slather GREASE over the junction surfaces, since the Whole Reason why nuts&bolts are used instead of welding, to give some flexibility to the building. DoublePlusGood since it COULD take the nuts&bolts out for inspection, MAYBE even undo the entire junction to SEE the surface hidden by the other side.
Amazing but . Extremely dangerous. Come on too much wind could tear up fans and damage building . Even caught on fire. Power genaration systems need to replace. Dont know how it could recounstruct in wworking building
Skimming too much from this project is forbidden, foreigners are recording lol (or at least until they leave) Wonder if the entire building is really done >_>
I rooted around looking for some case studies of the Pearl River Tower, which show the renewables actually make only about 10% of the building electricity: Biomass energy recovery @ 1.2 MW offsets 5% of monthly building energy- almost same as the Solar, which is also 5%. The Wind contributes further 3-5%, up to max 10%. The numbers differ but generally agreed wind NOT cost effective. The biggest contributor to saving energy is the novel fresh air delivery system. I don't know if they achieved their 40% energy reduction target. It was determined that the best way to save energy when designing is by employing more efficient systems.
As a solar power enthusiast, what brought me to this thread is the title which I think is misleading and untrue. Just looking at the building make me wonder how on earth can you generate its own electricity. Yes you have hit the button but more efficient system is about cutting down usage too.
They couldn't do net metering.
With their resources, no net metering means battery storage like off grid system. It wasn't mentioned because it will never be zero consumption.
either way, they have done very well, by the way, what is your expertise apart from personal comment to make this statement. Sure you might have searched you tube, but in reality most arcticals are personal opinion only, just making clips to make money. No matter what these guys have achieved great results, even if not up to expected expeditions. I would say you are Arerican, brainwashed by your government to think China is bad
Like I've said what brought me to this video is the title of "generate its own electricity". Being in engineering my whole life and now building my own solar power system abide a small one now , I think the world need to know more of how to sustain green energy and even climate change. By the way I'm from SE Asia and my ancestors are from China.
Construction of this tower started in 2006 and was completed in 2011, so some of the info in this doc is a decade or so out of date.
Trivial search, I found it on nzgeo. Published in 2009, "China's smart tower"
This documentary is old. It just got posted now.
So🤔
what info is out of date? even if its old documentary the information contained within that is essential to the structure building is still the same
Ahh, I had a feeling... My guess was this was first aired in early 2000s, lol. Thanks for clarifying!
31:42 for the part u came for
Some heroes don't wear capes.
Thanks!
I watched it a few times but did not come, sorry.
Thank you❤
Its the little niceties in life that make one smile
How things like this are possible to build is still amazing to me
Look at how long it took the empire state building. 13.5 months. Using 1930s technology!!
What strikes me most is the strive for achievement and success by ambitious, innovative and creative professionals like these architects, construction engineers and designers to fulfil their dreams and create marvels whenever, wherever they can. We must celebrate people like these. Great job.
The sheer size of this building and size of those steel beams is quite impressive, even exclusive of the height.
I believe many of these technologies were realized at the NEC headquarters building in Japan over 30 years ago.
Of course, I think it has evolved since then.
Human ingenuity, engineering and technology is really amazing.
Awesome structure, and excellent architecture, engineering, and execution by all the teams involved. This building is a predecessor to many forward-thinking structure to come.
I knew "net zero" was a pipedream right from the beginning. Even if they had installed the gas turbines in the basement, that's not "net zero".
The video said the net zero is a goal and the proposed turbine will send electricity back to the city grid for the net zero goal. We should praise the engineer intent and efforts to make this building a low energy consumption structure.
@@ah5878 It was a marketing gimmick.
Many thanks for the the effort of creating of this building … it must have not been easy.
The revolutionary dynamic nature of this building is a testimony to the benefits of the engineering and testing process for both large and small scale construction projects. it is also a testimony to the excellent skilled labor force they have in china.
The nature of a building is NOT a testimony to the skills of the labor force.
Moreover, most techniques came from outside China, including the engineering and testing standards.
@@paulwassenaar8351 - Regardless (though true), the Chinese people are clearly massively talented and are proving their way to being a First World Nation and force to be reckoned with.
@@Sovereign_Citizen_LEO
🤣🤣
Sure, the CCP is massively talented in faking it.
Maybe you should check out some episodes of laowhy86 and serpentza.
This is an old film. I used to live nearby of this site and watched this tower went up day by day. It was 12 years ago. Not sure if it's working as they claimed.
yes , the poster in one shot says 2010 !
@@7000fps - I believe it was completed in 2011/2012.
@36:45 It says safety first, but at 35:47 and 36:00 it shows 2 rodbusters on edge of building clearly not tied off. No OSHA there.
Agree. For them, life is cheap, maybe?
@@EugeneKee Or the same problem as everywhere else, compliance!
They are using netting...
Noticed that also.
just look how clean those Harness, they only use it for videos. plus even that is wrong anyway, no shock Absorber Stretchable Lanyard.
safety is not existed in china anyway.
well, as an aerodynamicist, sticking a couple (very small) VAWT's in those venturis is kind of a waste, so i guess this was mostly a gimmick. whats the point of building those slots and then sticking in a turbine which captures such a small subset of the flow?
When they showed the design of the vertical wind turbines I thought that meant they could fit multiple turbines in each opening. Maybe 4-6. I was surprised they only did one per opening, not even two. Is there some technical reason they couldn't do at least two? Either side by side, or one on the north end and one on the south end of the opening?
@icojb25 so you think you are smarter than over 100 Engineers that worked on that building?
@@AmyEugene Turbomachinery is quite complex to design. The best configuration from a flow perspective would have been horizontal axis machine utilizing the full inlet flow (why waste any at all?). Of course, setting this up and supporting it, cantilevering a synchronous machine to generate the electricity etc off the edge of the building in this configuration would have been basically impossible (and visually ugly). So i guess they chose some small VAWT's to greenwash and make some sort of eco selling point. As to your specific question, no, generally one wouldnt want multiple machines in a (that) space. One large machine consuming all the streamlines is what you would want.
@@KamvaGwadiso Well I do have a PhD in turbomachinery aerothermodynamics, which i assume is more than you (from your bio, you seem to be an expert in 'deep trance" and music downloading) and i do design turbines all day long for a major aerospace company, so perhaps I am entitled to a couple small comments ... 🤔
@@icojb25 I wasn't trying to be disrespectful, I was just asking and I'm currently furthering my studies in computers (currently learning software development ) and soon I will be enrolling in Computer Science and few years later get my PhD in Computer Science. Otherwise I wasn't going to write about my life in UA-cam bio.
This thing has the cross section of a prostate massager.
And it took this comment to inform me such a thing exists. I assume the massage is from the outside, given the curvature.
@@A-Milkdromeda-Laniakea-Hominid maybe on your first try. Such a thing is meant to be inserted.
@@vintageludwig Oh. What's with the sharp edges then? Maybe you meant the concave side and rounded top reminds of the cross section.
Anyway I'm personally way too scared of stimulating a cancer with my luck. I leave it alone
holy fk you just opened a door for me.
@ 4:45 , fabricating curved box beam is a science and art. Hence, only special steel fabrication shop can meet the challenge. In fact USA has only one steel fabrication shop that can mass produce curved box beam. But China has several; that’s should tell you something.
It would be interesting if you could provide a link (source reference) for that statement (not saying it isn't true). But it's certainly true, that the size and scale (and speed) at which China builds projects is World Class (World Leading) and very impressive. China is most definitely a force to be reckoned with. The size of those curved box beams (and the building in general) was massive.
@@Sovereign_Citizen_LEOthey built about 1/2 the world's sky scrappers every year in China.
You can trust the construction worker with a cigarette 12:20 there is no technology that can replace that man right there look at him I'm so proud 🤣
Thanks!
2:06 nice graphic, mega structures. except your sunlight rays is not heading the same direction as your building shadows.
😂 Sunlight rays from the north trough polluted sky.
😂 Noticed the absence of surrounding buildings?
Im 30 seconds in and im calling it now, it may be we dont know the answer to this til the building is done but based on the shape this is gonna be one of those buildings that focuses sunlight onto cars or the street or other buildings and starts melting the shit out of everything
Look at the sky. Looks to me like there's is too much air pollution to receive direct sunlight.
Park your car for an hour, half of it melts 😅
We need more buildings like this in the US and keep striving for eco- friendly buildings. I can't believe how short of a time frame it takes to get your money back and start earning a profit.
The ROI is most definitely overly optomistic (and false), even with the fastest growing economy in the history of humanity.
Profit? 😂
Yea government won't allow a profit unless it lines their pockets.. did u watch the whole thing
Collecting water would be extra cool
she was last months easy rider center fold with a mink scarf on
Thank You everybody for supporting Green Environmental Ideas to help our Planet Earth.... Peace.. Shalom.. Salam.. Namaste 🙏🏻 😊 🌈 ✌ ☮ ❤
18:20 From heat retention to sun shielding. ☀🛡🏢
Actually, it's not a newly shot documentary. The pearl river tower was officially activated in 2007, almost 15 yrs before.
Where is the pear river tower? 😂
@@amandasmart1125 Search yourself.
@@amandasmart1125As it says in the documentary, Guangzhou
I am impressed!
Jeez, when are we gonna run out of concrete? We've used astronomical amounts, really mind-bending....
Seems like they should have built this tower in San Francisco. They could easily have kept the micro turbines and did net metering. Plus the ocean breeze coming on shore is probably the most reliable place in the World, and there is plenty of sunshine with a cool wind which will keep the solar panels more efficient.
San Francisco seems like a dying city with no ambition, honestly.
That's some precision angle grinding.
How many trips to Home Depot do you suppose it took to finish the job?
@@vintageludwig at least 6, you never get everything the first time.
Fantastic! 👍Genius 🙏Can we study how well it has performed since completion in 2011? Can we then use this tech in new construction? Striving for Net Zero!❤
It probably whoefully underperformed. Technically it does not make sense to put turbines into buildings. It is better to just built them somewhere useful and bigger.
Net zero is a joke for that building. The four wind turbines are tiny compared to the building. The solar panels are only on a small portion of the surface. The gas turbines use natural gas, so even if allowed, do not count as net zero. A lot of smoke and mirrors.
Amazing concept and construction!
3:01 take a guess what happens in the second after the cut?
Pay attention they keep coming closer to the stacks...
Say what?
Ccp sucks
@@seanitoism The crane is lifting a stack of steel that caught the wood 4x4 supporting the stack over or maybe they never told the operator about the wood plank... either way what happens next is that wood support snaps as it is between 2 stacks of steel and these 2 complete idiots walking towards it will need new underware and pants at least as having 1000kg of steel fall next to you is the least you get if you are lucky. That next shot of him looking up is probably him being mad pissed of the crane operator almost crushing him during the shoot...
@@qa1e2r4
Spot on ...
A thought occurred to me a little while after watching this. The act of mining and processing the raw materials for steel, glass, and concrete along with the power and energy for construction of this massive building produced several hundred tons of CO2 and green house gasses. Is such an endeavor worth it when we are trying to limit our output. Couldn't we build smaller spaces that allow people to gather without the wasteful processes used here?
No, because the ecologist people also want to stuff earth with as many earthlings as possible. So they’re in a vice: Reducing the consumption per person only helps overcrowding more people per square meter, all the while never, I tell you, never save on pollution or energy.
You’ve been lied to. The goal of ecologists is not ecology.
Sorry to burst that bubble.
Bingo - but China keeps costs down on permits, pay, Workers Comp + crap like that.
This documentary must be 10 years old
@42:52 you see a large weather strip sticking out between 2 window panes also not the first building with integrated wind turbines there is one in London UK but because of residential complaints thay are not used
If I'm not mistaken, the Pearl River Tower in Guangzhou, China, was completed but not open to the public. 😅
Wind Tunnels have some data that might be helpful. It will be interesting to see if their design achieves some reasonable approximation of their target energy goals.
Everyone interviewed is so Positive, Smiling, UPBeat. I am eager beyond words to know how the design is performing. Time to do some searching....
Wonderful innovation!
I fail to see how they got rid of the dripping ceiling from high humidity. We have water coolers at work and after years of disrepair, they leak. This looks like a massive mold - rain problem from the beginning.
What happens to these big buildings when they are not worth maintaining and need torn down but isn't worth the demolition costs?
The Chinese have been building structures for thousands of years. I like these guys🙌💯
thx for build strong mega building
Marvelous building
This every each process and material with construction could be updated on more higher level, something like The Skyscraper That Generates Its Own Electricity | Megastructures | Spark II , and will be most advanced building and technology, with best outview around this building ) This new building could in autonomous mode by itself clean air polution from carbon dioxide too
Worth noting that the efficiency of the wind generation depends greatly on maintaining un-obstructed flow of air in the vicinity. The designers and builders surely must have done studies to determine how the addition of other structures in the vicinity would introduce turbulence and reduce the efficiency of the overall design.
Seems a factor that will increasingly come into play regardless of politics, since economic development seems to require further construction roundabout.
I'm only half way through but am wondering if they used the gravity energy generation tech they use in Japan for this. Would be great if we rebuilt many cities with these technologies so we can put a dent in what we're doing to our beautiful home~
34:40 the elevators regen going down when full, recouping 75%
Did he say horizontal turbines can’t turn to follow the wind direction ) at 31:05.
8:10 "I knew it, and it just poured out, and it was great". Yup, that's an architect. 😂😂😂
36:45 ON THE SITE ITS SAFETY FIRST - literally the scene before is a dude tying rebar on the edge of the building with no fall protection xD
Chinese workers are hard-working people but safety is not really their priority. Even here in my country can see them ignoring safety.
44:41 it looks like they're standing on oven grates
I couldn't care less about the environment but if this ends up saving money in the long run, it would be great.
Why am i hearing about this just now?? These things should be more well known
Thats how u build a building... look surrounding n harness it.... either sun, wind, typhon, flood, tsunami, etc
This is dangerous anything is miscalculated and the harmonic frequencys will destroy the building. This is why it's not being done in America because nobody wants to insure a first of its kind
Probably having the wind turbine's shaft attached on the ceiling too would have made it more stable.
I bet the building maintenance staff loves this building's design...
They went as far as to capture wind, solar and elevator energy, why not utilize the water in the plumbing drains as well? Have a water wheel generator somehow. Big cisterns at different levels that capture the energy of falling water. Just sayin
When I hear the narrator throw around words like "elite, forward thinking, ground breaking " I can only think the script was written for them by the developers and that they are really trying to get the visual out there that they know what they are doing and its all good BUT then I see the thousands of buildings that have come crashing down in China
First, full admiration for the builders and organizers who accomplished this ultra-difficult project. Second, I am suspicious of vanity projects. A building should serve the inhabitants, be comfortable and maintain a good micro-climate. The whole philosophy of subordinating habitation to intermittent wind and solar generation is a dead end. For several 100 thousand years humankind either lived in caves, or tried to build substitutes for them, with a constant aim - to protect itself from the chaos of nature. But after the turn of the century we are toying with whimsical ideas, how to do exactly the opposite - to invite the elements inside. A good wind-tunnel is a bad office building and vice versa. If the energy used, the cooling system, the water heating should depend on unpredictable sources, this means there was planning, based on belief in miracles.
Saying that, quite a lot of technologies in the tower devoted to energy efficiency and conservation sound smart and deserve to be widely adopted.
Flat Facade cost = 1X, Curved Facade cost = 2X, Double Curved Facade cost = 10X
*Maybe a small percentage but there is no way that entire tower is run by wind.. Wind is not always present nor is there enough anything to collect enough power from it to charge an entire building let a lone a red light..*
they mad this mistake before the curved surface will
act like a magnifying glass and cook the ground and other building
So much for catching a nice breeze thru a window, and a roof garden would be suicide on a structure built broadside to the wind -as would be washing windows. Relief vents or not, that building had to be overbuilt to withstand wind shear, and what happens when sheet rain blocks those releif vents -during high winds? Fatigue of structural members will set in, and like the airframe it aspired to be, the place will be retired at 30 years of service. A massive expense just to drive windmills. The air replacement system would work fine even if the building were not a giant air-foil, since altitude brings high wind anyway.
Mrs Richards: "I paid for a room with a view !"
Basil: (pointing to the lovely view) "That is Torquay, Madam ."
Mrs Richards: "It's not good enough!"
Basil: "May I ask what you were expecting to see out of a Torquay hotel bedroom window ? Sydney Opera House, perhaps? the Hanging Gardens of Babylon? Herds of wildebeest sweeping majestically past?..."
Mrs Richards: "Don't be silly! I expect to be able to see the sea!"
Basil: "You can see the sea, it's over there between the land and the sky."
Mrs Richards: "I'm not satisfied. But I shall stay. But I expect a reduction."
Basil: "Why?! Because Krakatoa's not erupting at the moment ?
I'm not an engineer but question: in the quest for net-0, could a wind turbine of select design be applied to the pinicle where the wind would be constant?
I cant imagine how to clean those solar panels above it
On paper and per design this is good. But for residents the noise and humming can be unbearable. This is evident from the extreme residential high rises in nyc that residents have been complaining about and now many apartments there are empty in addition to their huge costs.
My city while in China
The blinds can never be fixed.
1.6 Billion or 300 million it's an Actuarity
Steel toe boots are evidently not a safety requirement in china
The sky doesn't lie
Looks very polluted
I hope this building works out. Given China's record with tofu dreg construction. I wouldn't be surprised if it failed miserably... But the designers had a lot of cool ideas... Especially the whole airflow and conditioning systems...
It's a good concept, but I won't be energy neutral...simply too many Megawatts needed for a building that size.
Construct an invisible underground geothermal power plant in an adjoining development to help power the building? A carpark above the power plant could have a solar roof & battery packs to feed EV charging outlets?
"Enhanced Geothermal Systems (EGS) are maturing technologies where bore holes over three kilometres deep are drilled down to extremely hot underground granite rock. Water is forced into the holes, heated by the rocks and then pumped back through return wells to the surface for use."
dont leaaaaave now hes steaming mad
48:51 That is false, the Bahrain World Trade Centre was one of the first buildings who was design and shape to take advantage of wind power generation.
Yes, was first! "The Bahrain World Trade Center is a 240-metre-high (787 ft), 50-floor, twin tower complex located in Manama, Bahrain. Designed by the multi-national architectural firm Atkins, construction on the towers was completed in 2008. It is the first skyscraper in the world to integrate wind turbines into its design." The three turbines make a 15% contribution to energy.
We don't want to hear what it will do but what it can do
Beams need to be precise. Steel worker uses one eye to make sure the beam is precise. 😐
shes stuck jil, and that deadline is looming.
Blasting the bed rock is a very bad idea. There's a reason to the thickness of the rock. How do they know by blasting the bed rock won't weaken the strength of the bed rock which is important to support the weight of the building?
How do they know the thickness and strength of the bed rock before removing the top off? Do we have technology to fully scan the entire bed rock just to make sure it's safe to erect a tall building?
No we don't have. I guess they only assume it's safe to do so after all the owner of the building had already bought the land. Too late to discard the project even if somebody did realise it's isn't safe for high-rise building.
Engineers and architects are hired to complete the building on schedule. It doesn't mean the building won't collapse should there be an earthquake hit the building in future.
I always question the way tall buildings are built. It's never safe because there isn't a method to do so. It's all plain assumption.
So good luck for the owner and the residents. I'll make sure will stay far away from the building.
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Need more simlar🌴
That is called CAMBER adjustment.
Wonder about the viability of this project, with the ongoing property sector crash.....
OLD building from 2010
38:58 "with military precision" ='s 1 unforklift certified guy struggling to maintain balance of a floor jack with all the weight of the panel on the last 10% of the floor jack and 2 doods with ropes just trying their best to apply forces all "militarily willy nilly style"
i knew it was in china before even reading the description😂
The labour make it real
Must be a very stable structure the guy on the 53rd floor had a theodolite set up. weird
why now use bolts and welds? or maybe twice as many bolts?
Earthquakes, bolts stronger it says
Tell me if I'm wrong : Why the HELL did the builder NOT clean the surface on the junction of structural elements? since the REST of the surface actually IS painted !
At LEAST slather GREASE over the junction surfaces, since the Whole Reason why nuts&bolts are used instead of welding, to give some flexibility to the building. DoublePlusGood since it COULD take the nuts&bolts out for inspection, MAYBE even undo the entire junction to SEE the surface hidden by the other side.
Bolted joints carry shear loads in friction. If the surfaces are not in contact the bolts may carry additional shear loads they are not designed for.
They capitalize on everything we do here in the U.S.A.
ill take another one, make it a double this time... fuck that crown didnt last long 4 glasses i think...
No need to watch this channel anymore, adds every 5 - 7 min, that is just crazy.
Zero adds on mine just Chin'nah propaganda.
Amazing but . Extremely dangerous. Come on too much wind could tear up fans and damage building . Even caught on fire. Power genaration systems need to replace. Dont know how it could recounstruct in wworking building
Healthy air in China? That's funny right there!!
Skimming too much from this project is forbidden, foreigners are recording lol (or at least until they leave)
Wonder if the entire building is really done >_>