No the little girl is an idiot who can’t handle living under authority. She could’ve got the doctor sent to jail for being promiscuous and a liar, very dangerous. And if cops can’t talk to minors without parents present then neither should doctors.
I remember this episode. The reason he didn't know her age or even ask is bc they met in a CLUB where he'd played w/his band occasionally. She also had a fake ID. Tbh, I don't know many people who when finding a hook-up in a BAR will ask, "hey, btw I see you have an ID showing you're old enough to get in here and drink, but how old are you really??" One-night stands/hook-ups don't usually have personal conversations. 😂🤣
Girl, you’re making excuses here. In America, you know the difference between a 21 year old (legal age to drink in a bar) and a 14/15 year old. In fact, you know the difference between that and an 18 year old. You cannot mistake a child for an adult, anyone who claims that’s the case…. Is either ignorant or wanting to believe it’s a valid excuse. Have you ever slept with a minor because you thought they were older? No? Didn’t think so. Stop spreading that disgusting excuse.
@@brackenrobertson799 as a 21 year old who lives in the US your full of it. There's high-school kids looking like grown men and women. Meeting in a bar or club has an expectation of at least 18+ I wouldn't be checking ID either.
When I was 14 almost 15, I met my 24year old "boyfriend". I didn't lie about my age, I told him it was my 15th birthday in a month. Yet he still pursued and groomed me. Eventually he started beating me and abusing me in all kinds of ways. 3years later I managed to escape and I'm so thankful I did 🙏
@@oliverwills3556 I don't think that is an age of consent for anything... They're not talking about sexual consent in this video.. It's too young. I wouldn't allow my child at 14 to sign a waiver saying she could go on her own field trip at school. A child's brain is not fully developed until the age of 25. They're foreshadowing of actions Doesn't even begin till 13... Which means they can't look at an event and think what are the implications of this event in the future. How will this affect my life? Because their brain is not developed enough to think that way yet.. How many of us will let our 13-14 olds Walk down the aisle and marry a 25 My 30-year-old because they're in love? We all know the answer to that. They're too young to make a lifelong decision at 13 years of age! That's why it's a crime in America. Anyone under a certain age to get married without a parent's consent. Scientific fact.. That's why people are not allowed to vote till at least the age of 18 and drink until 21 (other countries may be different) Because they're not grown up enough to take on that responsibility.
Nope it's not the age of consent...however even at that age the parents legally have zero right to know what she was treated for in reproductive rights or anything around that issue...down to sexual activity and birth control
Everyone saying you can look at someone and tell their age is really gullible bc I’m constantly being mistaken for as young as 15/16 and I’m 25 and sometimes people genuinely don’t believe me unless I show my ID or tell them I have toddlers. Can we please use common sense
They refuse to acknowledge the fact that it is common nowadays. They only care about the fact they haven't seen such people and will argue with the person themselves if they even meet them, saying there's no way they're the age they said instead of how they look. My mother is in her mid 30's, yet I, her own daughter, often mistaken her for 20. She has been mistaken to be MY daughter and my sister's younger sibling. I have a niece that when she was 9 y/o, I accidentally mistaken her for 29 y/o when she was doing the same make up as my sister for a traditional ceremony. They're only 10 years apart! It was just a simple light make up, yet she somehow looks far older than she actually is! People can have different looks than their actual age, and it is far more common these days.
Take the mistaken age as a compliment for as long as you can. I looked like I was 12 yrs old until I had my daughter at age 26. I could still get into the movies and other places for a child's price until I was 25. I'm 52 now and still don't look my age. 😂😁
People don’t know age at all lol there were many times people thought I was much older when I was younger and now they think I look too young to be my age. It’s just not accurate to assume. People change way too much across the board
When I was 14, my cousin and I stayed at my grandpa's hotel for Spring Break. These two guys checked in when we were behind the desk. Later, we ran into them and started chatting. I remember thinking they were cool and having a lot of fun. They asked if we went to school in the town (it's a college town, but the middle and high scholls shared the same name as the college), I said yeah, I'm a Freshman at Blank. He was a Junior somewhere and 23. I remember very distinctly not thinking anything was wrong. I wasn't a partier, I didn't date, didn't socialize that much. I think one of them asked, "So you're... 19?" And I said, "Oh, no, I'm 14." After a couple "You're joking"s, the conversation ended pretty quickly. I still remember being disappointed because we were having fun. I didn't want to hook up or drink with them or anything, but I did still want to hang out with them. All that to say... me at 14 yrs old had NO CLUE! Brains are still 10 years from being fully developed. It did not cross my mind how much trouble I could have brought those guys. (This is not trying to excuse her. This is me saying how stupid I was.)
How much trouble you could bring to THEM????? How about how much trouble THEY COULD BRING TO YOU??? Like grooming you, taking advantage of you, r4ping you... wild that you still don't realize the potential danger you faced
@MariaPaula-uw3ds I do, but they left as soon as they learned our ages. And it's obvious what could have happened to me. That wasn't the point of my post. The reason I posted was because after seeing the teen in the clip still being unaware how improper her actions were made me remember how I felt in this situation. I didn't have a fake ID, nor did I place myself somewhere a minimum age could be assumed like the character in the clip did, however.
Who cares about how much trouble "you could have brought them" that's NOT the point. Thing is, they did the right thing and walked away. You told the correct age. Some youth tell the correct age and they still don't walk away. The youth are NOT bringing shame or embarrassment just because scummy people won't walk away. Still telling truth as aging continues and the adults still don't listen is heartbreaking. I feel no simpathy for anyone who thinks they would bring shame to a predator by telling truth.
My husband started seeing a girl when he was 18. He thought she was maybe a year younger tops. Turned out she was 15. Luckily he found out before they did anything and broke up with her. She was VERY mad at him but he just kept telling her "I could go to jail. I don't like you THAT much."
In most states there is a Romeo and Juliet law where there has to be a 3 or 4 year difference in age for it to be statutory. With that said he’s lucky she didn’t go woman scorned and make up allegations against him.
Friend of mine matched with a 19-year-old on a hook-up site and they met up several times. When her parents found out, they had him arrested because it turns out she lied on her profile and to him and was only 15, which he was horrified to discover. He spent eight years in prison, was beaten half to death more than once, is on the sex offender registry for life, and will never see his kids again. All because of a rebellious teen's lies and his own foolishness.
@moths.for.valentine how do you know the guy wasn't also 19 or early 20s? I agree its still too young for someone in their 30s and older but if they were close in age to each other why do you believe that's an issue?
When I was 24 and just married for 5 months, my fitness instructor thought I was 16, he was 21, and hitting on me. He also put me in the junior class. He was shocked to find out my age, and the guy who fetched me after sessions was my husband and not " boyfriend"
Finding out you were an adult he couldn't prey on was probably what upset him too. He thought you were 16 and hit on you that is so horrible. A lot of guys do lie about not knowing they were young too. People up in the comment section acting like this is the common of the girl lying and him not knowing. I looked older at 16 and so does my kiddo. When she was 12 grown men hit on her. I play a game when in stores called guess her age. Too many times I didn't get the response I wanted (when I state her age which should be a mix of shock and disgust they saw a child that way because those guys you know are going to check themselves in the future when they think someone is an adult). One guy who was maybe 18 or 19 though he was awesome. He was a clerk at a local store. He was looking at her a lot in that way so I played the how old do you think she is game. He said 18 or 19 and I said 12. The look of shock and confusion and horror on his face was the exact response you always want with something like that. I never called him on flirting with her. He knew he was hence the look of disgust after it all settled in (that he was flirting with her). From then on total ally on keeping guys aware she was 12/13/14. Saying to me loudly if some dudes were looking at her in the check out "I still can hardly believe she's only (add the age she was) she looks so much older. Sometimes it stopped them from checking her out. Not always 😢 because some guys really think kids are fair game when they are adults (hebephiles and ephebophiles. Types of pedo/child touchers for older kids like preteens to 17 hebephiles for the preteen early teens) 😢. However then they get the I will cut your balls off glare from me and they would back off. Other times I've done this in other stores with young adult men checking her out often the women nearby/clerks usually hearing me ask to guess her age would be pretty close. The guys never seem to hear them talk and if they did they would be able to tell they are kids. You can hear her talking here and she sounds like an 8th grader. Dudes if you want us to believe you didn't know most of us still feel it's their faults. This man is a doctor. Having a conversation is important. Had he bothered to really talk to her he could tell she was a kid. It's still his fault for not covering his a$$. They don't want to talk to them because they don't want to know not really. They want a leg over and have decided it's going to be that person and having a conversation may cause them to not want to be with them. They may not mesh etc. So yes being hoebag dudes not even having a real conversation with them they deserve the prison time when it turns out they slept with kids. I don't believe for a second the maturity level of this kid had he actually tried to talk to her prior beyond just questions that he wouldn't have known her age. Cover your a$$ out there hookups can exist with real conversations still. Ask about things kids won't know. I'm a phone sex operator. If I suspect a caller is a child I ask them their bday. They avoid the year because they NEVER do the math of year they would be born before faking they are older. Sure they may have fake id's in clubs but most of them don't bother to look at the year actually ask them when they were born without looking at their ID and they will stumble because they didn't think it through that much. We know what year we were all born when you see them trip up or take time (doing the math in their head) of year born you know they are lying.
I've never had a fake ID, but when I was 12 everyone I met always thought I was 27 years old. Now that I'm 35 everyone things I'm in my early 20's. Looks can be deceiving.
Depending on where you are that’s not always true. My friend was 15 and working in a restaurant. She didn’t disclose her age to one of the other cooks there who was 32. She actually lied, but there was no proof she did. Even when the kid admits to it She never said she was of age from what this clip shows just that she was a “student” and he had sex with her. So that alone someone could make a case. Rapist get away for brutal assaults and they talk more about their achievements. While innocent people have their lives implode for being accused. To many fucked up people willing to destroy lives and lie. No one will really no the true full story other then the people in the situation. It’s more about running the other person down and picking apart everything they say, and just sharing the actual truth.
I knew a girl in real life that did this, they met at a high school party. She only told the guy she was 14 when he was trying to break up with her, he had just turned 18. What followed was months of her constantly controlling, abusing, and manipulating him with the threat of turning him into the police if he didn'tdo what she wanted when she wanted. He eventually snapped and tried to off both of them at the same time. She was played off as a victim, he got life in jail.
He tried to “off both of them” so he tried to kill her? How is she not a victim in that situation? Doesn’t matter what she did up to that point when someone tries to murder you are a victim?
Lol he did not get life in jail. That never happened. Why make that up? Statutory rape between teens has never once lead to LIFE in jail. Smh people lie about weird stuff
@@cait2538 It was the attempted murder that got him life. He tried to strangle her to death in a park. Here you have to be 16 to sleep with an 18 year old and they have been taking it seriously since we have been having issues with this turning into human trafficking in my city. Also this took place in a very white neighborhood where "this never happens here".
@@Ophiotaurus_AKA_Bessie many people believe it is okay for someone to kill their abuser to get away from them. She was crazy too, stalking him, texting him in the middle of the night to call her or expect a visit from the police from r*ping a "poor little girl", and she intended him to skip college so she could spend more time with him. Also he could only get a job where she could also work.
Lost my virginity at 15 to a 22 year old. He did this against my will and other things. I was so young i thought it was love, and those who knew helped me hide it. I just hope someone is there for my kids to tell them the right thing if i ever miss something.
Wtf is going on woman listen to me a 15 year old girl is not stopped she knows we ar not talking about a 7 or 10 girl Because if u lose ur virginity to 16 years old is ganna be okay? It's the same s***
As someone who has to ID people to make sure they're old enough as a job, I can confirm you cannot always tell by looking at people. I've ID'd a guy who was born in 1975 but had the roundest baby face. I'm talking Paul Rudd levels of not aging. I've also not ID'd someone because I thought they were at least in their 30s, but the next day, I saw them walking by in their high school uniform! We made awkward eye contact
Im 28 and ive seen people barely 18 look decades older and im like why am i a decade older but look more there age then they do my coworker did say i have a youthful aparence and he saw my mom and dad come in and asked me how old they are and i said dad is 58 and mom is 55 and he said they look around my age and said it might be a genetic thing to look younger than ur actual age with me and my fam it could be genetics for people on how old they look i was like guess some white folks age better than other ones
Paul Rudd ages I don’t get the whole Paul Rudd never ages thing. That’s gotta be weighing on him now that he’s really looks like he’s in his 50s hopefully it doesn’t bother him
Honestly, no one should use how a person looks to guess their age, when i was 12 people thought i was about 18-21, i was sick that time, when I told the doctors my age no one believed me.
I had a doctor's appointment when I was legal age to drink and the nurse tried to get my mom to come back cause she thought I was still a minor in high school. I get "No way are you 32, I would have thought mid to late 20s" comments all the time. People are very bad at gauging ages, and some people, like myself, dress "younger" than expected (I also get, you don't dress like you're 30!). Absolutely check ids with strangers
Yep when I was 12 people thought I was 16-17 bc I developed a LOT earlier then most of the girls my age and got hit on a lot by older men it was really uncomfortable.
I had the opposite problem. I was still being charged for half-fare on the daily bus to work after studying at school until 18. In the UK you can leave school at 16 if you don't need/want beyond basic qualifications. And full fares are charged at 14!
I have a friend whos life was ruined in a underaged situation. He was a year older than her (her 17 at the time) and they grew up together. However when the parents found out that they were sexual together they had him charged with statutory rape and hes been listed as a registered sex offender ever since. He did nothing wrong but love her. He was going to marry her. Anyways his life was ruined before it started. He struggles getting work, housing, friends and so on. The girl ended up committing suicide because of her parents over reacting. I hope the parents are happy with themselves.its a shame for the loss. I have always been supportive of my friend and will continue to stand in his corner.
@@dkat8087No, no, no. Literally everything you just said is a lie. There are no doctors performing sex change surgeries on minors without parental consent. That is not happening. Don't spread untrue information. (And this conversation had absolutely nothing to do with trans people anyway, it's almost like you're just trying to start drama.)
Tbf, she does not look anywhere under 18 (thanks, television) and she was found in a club rated 18+. Part of me feels like a judge would rule in his favor if a case were to rise.
Here’s the dilemma with the evidence I have gathered from the comments and the short. Yes, hooking up with a minor is illegal. Let’s get this straight here. I hate pedos more than anything. BUT, what the girl did was also illegal. She made a fake IR then snuck into a club and most likely consumed alcohol while underage. Now I’m no expert in law, but it seems like this would fail under something like “I genuinely assumed she was this age” and if she was purchasing alcohol and/or at a 21+ club, any person would have likely assumed she was at the least 21. Now, not saying that Max sleeping with her isn’t HIGHLY ILLEGAL, but also he had a good defense too as the girl was the one doing things only a legal adult would do. So yeah.
This actually happened and the girl and her friend later tried to say he sa'd her. He was found innocent because the bar they were at had cameras outside showing there interaction.
Yeah this is a huge problem now & bc prosecutors, etc want to make a name for themselves often people are insanely charged as they are another full blown pedo. I went to school with a guy who served 6 years for looking at barely legal porn & kept clicking links that were bait from the state agency! Every thumbnail on every page was literally a charge!
The term you’re looking for is called “mens rea”. It means guilty mind in Latin. Many crimes require intent or knowledge of the crime, rather than simply doing something illegal. Some do not.
@@zydration3538 It showed he didnt coerce her. They were outside just talking and she was grabbing on him pulling him off away from her friend so they could leave together
i’m seeing some people in the comments saying that he “should’ve known” but you can ABSOLUTELY confuse minors for adults. when i was 13 i was checking out by myself and the cashier at the grocery store asked if i had graduated high school with them bc i looked familiar. when i was training for my current job i was 15 and my boss assumed i was 18 (my manager was the one who interviewed and hired me and knew my age). i’ve been getting mistaken for a college student since i was 12. some kids just look or act older, and some adults have baby faces. you can’t always tell how old someone is from their appearance/mannerisms. and on top of that, he met her in a BAR. she had a FAKE ID. it’s not his fault.
She also says that he never asks for her age even once & she doesn’t seem like she has a problem being honest about it…it’s very well known that children and teens go into bars with fake ids all the time. That doesn’t mean it’s okay to SA them. Stop taking a predators side…disgusting
@@wendyev310she still faked an ID, it’s still her fault for not thinking about her own safety. Any minors with a fucking brain knows not to go there AT ALL. Adults can very well be victims too also, there are plenty of 18yrs olds that do act like that
@@wendyev310 so u would rather ruin his life when clearly he knows it's wrong and wouldn't be ok with it just bc he didn't think to ask her her age at a 21+ bar? I could understand if he thought it was ok to do but he clearly doesn't now that he knows. And u would really excuse what she did? He clearly didn't know and when u think about it most people at a bar aren't going to stop and think to ask someone their age, especially if they have been drinking. U don't tend to have common sense at a bar if u know what I mean
This idea that a parent does not have the right to know what their 14 year old is doing is just stupid. It may prevent abuse from time to time but in most cases will result in the child making some really bad choices from lack of guidance.
My oldest is 12 and I'm not allowed to make up a mychart for him . He had bloodwork and xray on his knee done and i was told I can't have access to it. ITS TOTALLY BULLSHIT. Children are considered minors until 18. I'm legally responsible for him until then unless it's medical? But I still have to pay for insurance and the bill but not know what it's for.( paying for it is not what I'm bitching about) A child can not consent to anything because they lack the mental capacity to grasp the long term consequences.This country is ass backwards.
@@virginiaviola5097that's a fantasy and the parent cannot know what the doctor is doing until the doctor tells them. This is such a bad take. Go to sleep, wake up, and delete it
In California they are now using these kind of laws for psych drugs, puberty blockers, etc. They are being influenced to think all parents are close-minded bigots so the parents aren't told anything.
People need to know that being a minor, 14 year old doesn't mean being clueless about everything in life. 14yo me certainly knew what would happen if I lied about my age, got myself a fake ID, drank illegally and slept with a 21yo man. Some teenagers would purposefully get people into trouble because it's "fun" for them to do so. Yes, adults in their life should be responsible and be hold accountable for how they turn out. However, that doesn't mean they're entirely not to be blamed. They may not know better, but they definitely know
@@jamiethebookworm They may not know better about life and laws and "adult stuff", but they def know the basic of what they're doing, if it was right or wrong and how it would affect others
The problem is education. When I was 15 I had a crush on an 18 year old at my after-school job. Fortunately we were both responsible young people - I had no desire to start a relationship before finishing school, and he avoided me entirely. Quite hurt my feelings at the time. I literally had never been told what year was the age of consent legally. I just knew everyone but me was hooking up. Never occurred to me HE would get in trouble simply because of our ages when neither of us would have gotten in trouble hooking up with someone our own age! Even though nothing happened, I have since felt guilty about the anxiety it must have caused him knowing an underage girl liked him. If I had ever been TOLD what the age of consent actually was, I would never have tried to flirt with him. I was old enough to know right from wrong. I knew breaking the law was wrong. But SOMEONE should have taught me what the law actually said at that age; I would have been fully capable of understanding!
@@cmm5542 Also if they are willing to be educated and learned about that. Some teens I met know whether something is wrong or not (illegally clubbing, doing drugs, drinking, having sex etc). Schools do offer education about things like that (at least in my country, they teach about ages in consent, marriage, working,... in the law system), but some teens would do it anyway just for the fun of it. Though I'm relieved that most teens nowadays are more educated and responsible, it's still sad how some would knowingly ruin other people's life because they know that they will not be punished for it legally
Yeah I was a senior in graduated at 16LOL... I didn't skip any grades or anything it's just what happens when you have a birthday in a specific month...
As you know a lot of people's bdays are during the school year. If she's 15 at the end of 9th then 16 in 10th 17 in 11th 18 in 12th is the exact same as u
And if she used a fake to Possibly entrap this guy, I see it as a crime cause in reality if you're in a over 21 establishment, there should be a sense of comfort that anyone in question should be doing a consensual act an also that club could be sued cause they didn't do their job.
We have a family friend who's oldest son was lied to by a girl of her age he tried breaking up with her that's when she told the truth of her age cause she and her parents were pressing charges. He got deported lives in TJ and is addicted to meth and fentanyl. My dad's friend who is this guy's dad is severely depressed about the outcome of his oldest son's life.
That is why we have to fight against the me too BS, it is not fair they get to falsely accuse and then nothing happens to them. I hope your family friend gets the justice and help he deserves, God bless him!! 🙏🏻
"Whats the big deal?" Thr fact that you have to ask that question and even follow it up with "we like each other. Its fun." Like that magkcally justifies everything just proves youre not mature enough to consent to sex and to take on its consequences. Teenagers think that because they're going through puberty and are almost 15, that theyre adults, like 15 magically makes you an adult now. The more you hear a kid say "I'm practically an adult!" The more you know how not grown up they are.
TRUE; HOWEVER... MET IN AN ADULT CLUB... DRINKING... HOOKED UP... NOT A LOT OF TALKING TO FIGURE OUT FROM HER CONVERSATION THAT'S SHE'S A CHILD VERSUS JUST AN IMMATURE WOMAN! NOT HIS FAULT!
@@docej3025 you do realize that's what I'm saying right? Them hooking up isn't really his fault. And her asking what the "big deal" is shows how immature she is. And any minor who doesn't see the problem of being a minor having sex with an adult just proves they're too immature to be consenting to sex
The crazy thing is the guilty child often got away with their breaking the law exactly because they're still underage, while the adult *victim* is forced to take the punishment exactly because they're the adult! Life forever ruined by an impulsive child, with prison record.
This almost happened to a friend of mine. He was at a party and a girl started hitting on him hard. He was flattered and interested, but someone pulled him aside and informed him that she was 13. He noped the fuck out and stopped hanging out with that crowd. Who gives alcohol the a 13 year old???
A 13 year old who even wants to hit on a fully grown man obviously has a bunch of issues and the fact she's been provided with alcohol actually doesn't surprise me at all.
What world is this? That women told the doctor he'd be breaking the law telling the father? In the world I'm from, this women is the one breaking the law!!
It’s not telling the truth that will land him in jail it’s the fact that the truth is that he hooked up with an EXTREMELY underaged girl and it doesn’t matter if she pursued him first and lied. Even if he didn’t go to jail on the account of him not knowing her age, his reputation as a doctor would be ruined. He could ruin his life and his coworker was trying to protect him.
She doesn't really care about his life she just wanted to have fun. This is so sad when parents raise their kids thinking that they are capable of making adult decisions but when they turn around and get someone in trouble who's to blame?
Who’s to blame? THE DAM FATHER & the fully GROWN male who so desperately claimed he JUST can NOT tell if they female is a 21 yrold OR a 16 yrold 🫵🏻🫵🏻🫵🏻🫵🏻🫵🏻😭🤣 poor males POOOR boys you yall are just sooo dumb&incapable of huh? 🤡🤡🤡
@@POSSIBLYHIGHBITCH! THERE ARE 21+ including me(I’m 23) that do look underaged and I always get mistaken for a 14-17yrs old. Also, she faked her ID it’s her fault because she exactly knew what she was doing is completely wrong
@@POSSIBLYHIGH The girl is also to blame, she knew she could get him into trouble. Also, appearance wise, 21 and 16 doesn't really have a big difference
She would deserve it not him. She had a fake ID and faked her age. When i was her age i had a doubles and a bubble. Young adults can have a youthful face and teens start growing hair. Exspecially now days. Teenagers who fake age, such as using fake ID and not being truthful. If they are near 16 and have obvious pubery or wear make up to make themselves look older. Should be held responsible more so than the dude if he proves he absolutely had no idea.
She was a kid - it's her parent's fault for not monitoring her. And it's the guys fault for hooking up with random people. This is God's punishment for him having s3x before marriage. If he had got to know her first and met her family, he would have realised her age. I don't have sympathy for people who casually sleep around.
There was a girl who was a freshmen in my high school that was dating a guy who was a freshmen in college and they had been dating for a year so since she was 13. It always made my skin crawl seeing them together.
I will never understand how a man can go to jail for a girl lying about her age…. I can understand if it’s obvious that she’s a child but I could look at her and think she’s in her 20s
he never even asked about her age... she only said she is a student and he asumed. If he actually asked and she said she is 20 while she is not it would not be his fault. but he did not ask. he asumed that her saying she is a student ment in university.... Also if you want to be on the save side as a guy: ask her to show her ID. that is the only way you can be sure, cause it is Impossible to tell a girls age just from looks there are 15yo who look 25 and 25yo who look like 15...
@@blackforest_fairy yeah, no.... She was in a 21+ bar, drinking with a fake ID. She lied and he had no way of knowing it. Every single clue here says she's over 21. ALSO, asking a girl for an ID while trying to get her to hook up with you is a really good way to ensure that she wont.
@@EricJohnson1989 It is well known that underaged people make their way into bars andclubs they are not allowed to be. So her beeing in a bar for people 21+ does not free him from his resposibility to make sure she is not underage. Also if she would have refused to sleep with him because he asked for her ID it would have saved him from comitting a crime. if goes to jail he deserves it cause he did not make sure the girl h is interested in is old enough.
@@blackforest_fairy "You look really hot tonight. Can I see your id?" If this is what hooking up and flirting is coming too, we'll soon be extinct. And maybe that's a good thing.
Yes, but she did the right thing to protect him! Should she let him out to the wolves to suffer a crime he could have not avoided because the girl LIED???? There are real victims of SA out there and this little is no victim.
I'm almost 30 and people won't believe me when I told my age. Plus I'm an asian. I look early 20's or I could even pass as an 18 or 19 they said 😅 Its important to let the other person(especially to men) your actual age when having a conversation to avoid misunderstanding and any unnecessary trouble. Good men will leave you alone while bad men will keep hitting you up. If you're unlucky meeting the bad ones, leave immediately. Same goes to underage boys and if you meet older women who knows your age but still hitting you up, leave immediately.
@@jownajowana That is lying by omission though. Yes, it is advisable to ask someone's age always before having sex with them, but you have to think of the reasonable person standard in court and argue that to a jury. About the juvie aspect on the other side that would be up to a judge
She was a kid - it's her parent's fault for not monitoring her. And it's the guys fault for hooking up with random people. This is God's punishment for him having s3x before marriage. If he had got to know her first and met her family, he would have realised her age. I don't have sympathy for people who casually sleep around.
@@Ri57490 Girls in the bible regularly got married and had sex at 13, so trying to bring god into this is hilarious. Mary, through historical context, was most likely about 14 when she gave birth to jesus. If the bible had anything to do with it this girl would have been married off and became some man's property by her age.
He wont go to prison because he had all reasons to believe she was over 18, even if she never explicitly stated it Still really sad for them both, hope the girl gets help
Charged, but unlikely to be convicted due to a reasonable person believing she was over the age of 18 due to her actions being in a bar with a fake ID.@@TimberlakeTigerGirl
I was under age when i went to child and adolescent mental health services. My abusive parents tried to get my information and control my treatment. I was very grateful that the staff didnt let my parents bully them into giving them what they wanted I've also had nurses and doctors thankfully kick them out of the hospital when they were giving me trouble or they felt i wasnt able to answer or talk openly in front of them Such people look after us in more ways than one
@@lanceneol8162 oh shut the fuck up. Are you purposely antagonistic or do you just lack basic reading literacy? Their parents were abusive and these strangers weren't. It's as simple as that.
Kat Dennings is about 4 years older than me. I agree that she is pretty now. I think she was 18-19 when this was filmed. She was cute then and a hottie now
I literally look barely 18, i get id every single time because they never think I'm of legal age, and I'm 24, so i feel really bad for the guys that accidentally sleep with a minor because the minor in questions lied about their age to be cool. Girls and women like that should be at least fined, and society needs better sex education and knowledge around situations like this
@drnefarious2758 that's not true for everyone literally met a girl at a Christmas party last year who was talking about being in school I was sure she was in her 20s and talking about college nope she was 16 and in high school. I am 30 I could not tell she was under 18 at all.
I grew up in the Foster system, I am well-versed in juvenile law. Children do not have rights because they are incapable of assuming responsibilities. I literally grew up as a ward of the Court.
Aren't she underage though?? Here in my place underage kids still need parents consent and have the right to know what is going on with their children especially health
My son is 15, and when he turned 13, his medical records became private. Some new law. I can see his appointments but nothing else and I have to have his permission to be in the exam room with him.
Not when it comes to sexual health. Once a girl turns 12 in most states, the doctor legally can not tell the parents without the child's consent. Even if your teenager is having a baby and you want to know the gender and the teen wont tell you, there is nothing the doctor can do. If you dont believe me, if you check your health insurance and you dont see any of the claims for your preteen/teenage daughter (especially pharmacy claims) then you have to ask her to give you permission to view them
it depends on the type of healthcare being provided as well as that laws for that specific state. there a certain protected health conditions where institutes can keep information from the family. some for example are mental illnesses or pregnancy. from what i’ve seen it’s usually 14+. it can seem ridiculous but think about it this way. let’s say im trans, i went to my psychiatrist and they officially diagnosed me with gender dysphoria. understandably i can tell the psychiatrist even as a minor, whether you personally agree with transgenderism or not, « don’t tell my parents, if they learn about this i could get thrown out ». if my state allows it, the psychiatrist must legally keep it confidential. the confidentiality is mainly for the purpose of safety for the minors who request it. the parents can know all about what’s going on if the minor grants permission for that information to be released to the parents.
In Minnesota it’s 13 and all records are protected from even parents. I had to have my daughter sign a form to grant me access. It’s sounds wild but I have had one weird parent asking inappropriate questions about his daughter and I was happy to tell him i couldn’t release her information without her consent and he was pissed.
@@lauraelliott6909 Having the father be abusive is just a Hollywood cop-out to make it seem like parents shouldn't be informed of things that they definitely should be! It's just a writing cop-out to give a reason why it's somehow okay to cover this all up!
@@Warriormon87thank you. Hollywood ( a place known for abusing children) always likes to write the parents as always abusive and the mostly woman’s doctors (watched enough shows to see this as a pattern) trying to cover up crimes because of some BS laws put forth by. Our supposed representatives. If there is abuse in the home then get a court order so the minor does not have to let them know anything. Otherwise the parent has a right to know
If a hospital treats a minor without parental/guardian consent, that is a violation of law in every state. HIPPA does not apply untying they turn 18. If hospital staff suspect the parents of abuse, they are obligated by law to report it to authorities but can not withhold medical information from their parents without a court order. This video is very misleading.
Under the confidentiality bill in my state the medical services are not billed to the parents because that would violate the 14 year old's confidentiality
Not in every state. Where i am, parents are no longer privy to confidential information once the child is 13. The reason that law exists is because of situations like these. It was a good thing too, given that this guy is abusive and feel entitled to his daughter’s body
He would be blamed and jailed, nevermind he had no idea about her age because she hid it. There has to be a way to give girls like these consequences without undoing years, decades even, of work trying to catch and put predators behind bars...
This is a show. In real life it's pretty clear when someone is underage by that many years. If they're 17 and say they're 18, sure I can see someone getting reasonably confused there. But 14? Most 14 year olds LOOK 14.
@Sasuga_Skky that's false. I was wearing training bra's in first grade and had large breasts by the time I was fourteen and was even called ma'am by a young woman. Not everyone acts their age. Circumstances and parenting can significantly impact your behavior. I heard a story about a middle aged woman trying to fight a girl in her early to mid twenties. If someone has a matured body, has access to a fake ID, and can lie convincingly this situation is definitely plausible. Do some research, get out more. Rarely is anything as black and white as you seem to assume itis. Child murders exist, but a teen girl lying about her age is somehow impossible to you? I repeat do some research, and get out more.
@@kailynncovington3907 Um...that's not what I said. You might need to check your reading comprehension skills. As a 14 year old I was also fully developed, but it was still pretty clear that I was young, young enough to warrant doubt in an adult's mind. Children can 100% lie about their age, I'm sure they do very often, I know I did. That's not what the point I'm making. The point is that while 14 doesn't look that different to 18 in this video (due to it being a TV SHOW), in real life the difference is very different. Could there be exceptions, maybe, but majority of the time 14 year olds look young enough for an adult to know that maybe sleeping with them is not a good idea, especially because as you said, children can lie about their age.
@Sasuga_Skky ok, but not everyone looks their age. That's a fact. Some people look much older and some people look much younger. Also, it's important to consider the situation surrounding it all. In this situation, the people involved were in a club. It's not unreasonable to assume the person you're talking to is an adult. Especially if the person doing the assuming has been drinking. IN THIS CONTEXT THE GIRL IS IN THE WRONG. PERIOD. She snuck into a club with a fake ID and slept with a guy who thought she was an adult BECAUSE THEY MET IN A CLUB. Most people don't think to check the ID of the people they're talking to while in a club because there's an entire person for that. Also even if you do ask to see a fake ID, if you don't know what you're looking for and or are drunk, it's meaningless. This just convinces me the people paid to do their jobs don't know what their doing.
Why are some ple blaming the victim. when I was a young teenager I would never have done something as crazy as this and neither my friends . Stop finding excuses for the girl bad behavior, she lied and decived a man into having s*x with her, in a way she rapped him. Bcse if the guy knew her real age he would'nt have had s*x with her, he would'nt have given his consent, It is 100% the girl fault. What she did was bad and disgusting, and those who are defending her are just as disgusting as her.
She an immature child. Two things can be true at once. She clearly doesn’t have the mental capacity to see why it’s wrong. Don’t be dense. You sound like a person that slept with someone underage and needed to justify it.
She was a kid - it's her parent's fault for not monitoring her. And it's the guys fault for hooking up with random people. This is God's punishment for him having s3x before marriage. If he had got to know her first and met her family, he would have realised her age. I don't have sympathy for people who casually sleep around.
@@LeGheyTrashshe faked an ID to go to a club - to dance and possibly drink alcohol. She didn't fake an ID to get into a s3x dungeon or buy items from a s3x shop.
I went to school with a guy who accidentally slept with a 15 year old girl when he was 21. Her parents found out and had him arrested and he was facing jail time and a lifetime of being in the registry for offenders so he un-alived himself a week before sentencing to avoid being abused in prison and a lifetime of having to explain how he met this girl at a concert and because she was ordering drinks with the group at a bar that day he assumed she was of age b/c he said the other 2 girls she was with were also buying drinks so the thought of them being under age wasn’t in his mind. But anyways that girl took his life the one he would have had to live and the one he took to avoid that life….
She did GOOD. Girls just want to have FUN. BUT it’s up to you as a grown male to be the responsible smart one or sin and ofc get life in jail 🧚🏻 ya’lll have the power to choose so choose correctly dog. 🫵🏻🫵🏻🫵🏻🤣
@@POSSIBLYHIGHliterally stfu, there are 21+ people with a babyface. These type of minors sicken me because all they do is harm adults just because they think it’s cool to ruin someone’s life like that
She was a kid - it's her parent's fault for not monitoring her. And it's the guys fault for hooking up with random people. This is God's punishment for him having s3x before marriage. If he had got to know her first and met her family, he would have realised her age. I don't have sympathy for people who casually sleep around.
While yes she has the consent to keep her medical records confidential they also have the legal responsibility to report sexual abuse of a minor which unfortunately will involve the parents because of most police departments consent laws with minors.
If parents don’t have the right to know their children’s medical information then they shouldn’t be forced to pay for the treatments. In what other situation are you forced to pay for mystery services or goods? It makes no sense. Parents should be allowed to drop kids off their insurance and no longer be financially responsible if they can’t know or have a say in the treatment.
@@alicev5496 Nah, I'd say it's pretty fair. I'm not paying for something I had no knowledge or input in. Parents should definitely be informed with medical matters.
One thing in the principles of human Services category is that you should never let that information go out there even if it's the child's parent they are allowed to have their privacy it is only between her and the doctor.
Look, she was at fault... Period!!! If she lied about her age, he should not be punished... Even if it is a 80 yr old man and a 20 yr old, it is still legal so don't talk about it's still disgusting and whatnot... Also A LOT of kids under 18 look and act older... Myself included... But I also have enough common sense to not pull characterless shit like this!!! He was not at fault... As far as he knew, what he was doing was legal!!! Other opinions about good or bad don't matter!!! She deceived him!! If anything he is a victim here, not her
@@anonimulmistocar4542because young looking people including me deserve love too. I’m tired of people assuming I’m 14-17 when I’m 23. I just want to be loved by others and not make others uncomfortable due to my slow aging face. It’s not my fault that I was born to age slow! Before you judge anyone, just be mindful that there are people who are over 21 that looks underaged
@@LeGheyTrash Nice try to gaslight by making it emotional. Didn't work. And is still a fact that most people who want younger partner are older men, and most of the times is because they have predatory wants, or they see women as breeding tools or they sexualize young bodies. If they actually want love they can't find it in women their age too.
she was neglected in the show, plus shes UNDERAGE. she didnt know better, and your brain is fully developped at 18. Your'e calling the 20 year old the VICTIM? Both are at wrong but the way you phrased this leaves a bad taste in my mouth.
She was a kid - it's her parent's fault for not monitoring her. And it's the guys fault for hooking up with random people. This is God's punishment for him having s3x before marriage. If he had got to know her first and met her family, he would have realised her age. I don't have sympathy for people who casually sleep around.
For anyone who's unaware or on the fence about the situation; there's a loophole the Doctor is using. Hospitals are legally obligated to protect and conceal any treatment done to patients; it's called the "Health Insurance Portability and Accountability Act" or HIPAA, and it extends to everybody, even minors. HIPAA Laws allow Parents to have access to their Children's medical records and treatment information as long as the Child consents.
@Theresalynn69 That's an entirely different matter altogether. The short answer is "yes"; while the long answer is "They can, but they're not supposed to." All Doctors with a medical license adhere to the Hippocratic Oath, a set of ethical rules that state what doctors can and cannot do when treating any patients. HOW the doctors get paid is up to them; insurance is just the fastest standard. If they choose, a doctor can either do the treatment for free or receive an alternative form of monetary payment besides insurance.
That's not entirely correct. A parent acts as a personal representative of a minor child, which allows them access to medical records of the minor, with the exception of medical records wherein the minor consented to medical care without the consent of a parental representative. I think parents should have full access to all medical records of a child whilst under their care. It is the parents' duty to look after the welfare of their child. It's particularly prevalent in this day and age where kids can go to "school" one day as a boy and come back home as a "girl".
@kidsmooth6549 You are correct. However, please remember that in this video the girl received medical treatment without parental representation and didn't consent to her father knowing what she underwent; which is the crux of the dilemma. She didn't want her father to know. It's a grey area that too many people are quick to conclude without any deliberation.
@@kidsmooth6549for STD treatment and screening, it's legal for minors to do without consent because the system finds that children are more in danger involving parents
"her privacy" word is conditional fpr children as it should be. children are not adults and not supposed to take knowledgeable and right decisions all the time, not to mention the consequences of their decisions fall upon parents as well.
Yeah but given how she met the guy while trespassing in a club using a fake ID, drank alcohol, & never told him her actual age until now: the girl would be at fault & not the adult.
@@GranDOise-vb5xo kids are stupid. "I thought she was older" is not a valid defense. Even if it were, the doctor is still a mandatory reporter, and a crime has occurred.
@@Kosmisch1987she’s not covering up a crime, she’s just not violating HIPPA laws - also a crime, and the right thing to do in this instance given that her dad is abusive
Parents do have a right to know what’s going on with their children. They’re legally responsible for them until they’re 18. So how can you be responsible for someone else, but denied basic info about their medical treatment.
@@bryannothem1505which changes nothing. Simply by knowing that law and them refusing to tell you, you will know its std related. Really stupid you ask me.
@BraveShowBoys that's not always the case. Most people are dumb and don't look up these laws and their are other restrictions that HIPAA protect children with. Not to mention, mistakes, lack of proof, etc.
My point is that the law is stupid. The parents are legally responsible for the medical bills, but can’t know why their child is getting medical treatment. Can you not see the issue there?
If you are actively going out hooking up with men who are adults at 14-16 you should be charged as a predator not the man who had no idea how old you are, to the guy you are the age you said you are, you are in a bar which is for 21+ you are the predator not the guy who's at a place for adults I'm so sick and tired of guys being accused of child p when they were at places children shouldn't be! There's an age requirement for a reason!
You’re an idiot. Children don’t think like adults do, that’s why they can’t consent. If you seriously think a child would be the predator over a grown adult whose brain is almost developed if not developed, you’re actually dense. Also, maybe you should actually get to know someone a little more before you engage in sexual activity, but what do I know?
When I was 13, I met a guy in a bookstore. We spent an hour chatting about the books we’d read, identified some favorite authors in common- then we exchanged numbers and he invited me to his place to see some “first editions.” I was excited to go. I loved the idea of seeing those first editions. When he called to plan a date- my mom had to clue me in. Then, I had to clue him in. He thought I was in my early 20s. He was shocked.
Well this is what hookup culture will get you. I know a guy who was 28 and did this with a 16 year old because she was at a college party. Her sister went to school there and let her come. And she told people and he ended up getting arrested. His buddies told him it was lame still going to college parties, and he learned real quick.
I mean....hookup culture contributes, sure, but go back 20, 30, 40, 50, 60, etc years, and you still get people in relationships with people much older than they are.
@@babyshark833 you know college spans from 18-25 right undergrduate= 2 years = 18-20 Graduates = 4 years so 18-22 Masters = 6-7 years = so 18-25 PHD programs or other = 25+ 28 while higher on the age range is not completely rare and unnatural, if he were 35 or 40 then sure i would agree.
@@wdadwdwdwadw8604 bro phd people r almost always busy with their thesis or research they r practically working , so it IS weird if as an almost 30 yr old u keep hitting on undergrads knowing they r like 10 yrs younger than u
WOAH…What world are you living in where this is a legit concern?! lol I was with you on your first two points (hookups can lead to STIs and the potential for minors to be harmed), but you lost me on the third.
@KS04304 What world are you living in? Here in the USA, especially in the black community, there are men with upwards of 30 children by many different women. Although 4 to 6 children are common, much higher numbers are known. Also, sperm banks are known to be in close proximity of colleges and universities, especially in the early days of non-traditional ways to procreate. Those facilities had multiple donations from the same few donors. I remember watching a documentary around 2005 where 30 siblings were found living within 50 miles of each other. Their mothers used the same facility to get pregnant. There have been criminal cases of fertility doctors using their own sperm to impregnate patients. So, I recommend a DNA test before intimacy. This may seem outrageous and unnecessary. But, who wants to find out, as some have, that they are married with children to a sibling. It happens more often than you think.
@@GenXsinglefree Here in the USA racism is rampant, especially when it comes to those of African decent, and your comment is a perfect example of that. Sperm banks are selective about who donates and donors need to go through various exams and procedures before being approved. The banks also limit how many children are conceived from one donor. The things you are describing are mostly fictions created for movies/TV, and the small kernel of truth that’s there happened in the 70s and 80s and have since been reformed. The doctors who used their own sperm are exceptions and not the standard. The lack of oversight that enabled doctors and facilities to act unethically has been rectified. Things in documentaries are typically unusual or only selective to a small (or single) number of people - that’s why documentaries are made about them in the first place.
I can’t be the only one who is completely on the dude’s side? I’ve never seen the show, but he didn’t do anything wrong. From the comments, how was he supposed to know if they met in a club?
Totally understandable. She knew she was putting him at legal risk, she just didn't care. But the law being what it is her lying is not a legal defence. It's called "strict liability" there's basically no grey area or mitigating circumstance. You either did it or you didn't. If you did, it doesn't matter if you were acting "in good faith" and had every reason to think she was older. You're going to jail.
I haven't seen this show but confidentiality laws that keep parents in the dark exist to A)encourage minors seek treatment by removing the fear of punishment B)protect minors from potentially abusive parents
@Bluelu69 In a perfect world, I would agree with you. But the world ain't perfect and not everyone has good parents! Good parents have nothing to worry about here as their kids would be more upfront about it
On what planet are you even on? We literally require parent's consent to vaccinate the kids for Covid-19 a few years ago in all America. The parents hold no responsibility until the children is 18 years of age, that's the law! Hence, he has the right to know why is the daughter receiving medical treatment for. Doctors' job is to treat the patients, they are only allowed to hide the patient's infos if the patient's is an adult and does not want to let people know. She is a minor and he is her father.
True 💯 my friend( earlier roommate) suffered a lot because his parents kept interfering in his treatment asking for consent in every tests as if the doctors are trying to ruin his life.
Id rather leave it up to the teen to decide if telling the parent is good or not. Like first we have HIPAA in the US so no unless she signs a statement allowing it, parents got 0 "rights" to know. Secondly, i dunno if such information means a beating or other kind of abuse once theyre home. The kid knows far better than me what their parent might do. Im not gonna enable abuse cause of some self-righteous parental rights bs.
@Tiana_atr nope until he child is an adult in law they have no right to secrecy and certainly not confidentiality. If the parents are beating them then that's up to cps. But as long as they are under the adult age and living under their roof no confidentiality. That's how your kids get indoctrinated by these schools and institutions and make terrible decisions unchecked.
They don't want to indoctrinate kids, they want to make sure teens that have sex feel safe getting important medical tests for stds instead of walkin around without treating them cause they're afraid of their parents finding out. I swear you people would rather have a child that's sick if it satisfied your hardon for authority
I'd rather my kid sought proper medical treatment without my knowledge than do something to themselves in fear of me finding out something they don't want me to know.
@@24magiccarrotso you'd rather your kids just stayed doing stuff they never tell you? You do you boo. Like what the fuck they do that they cant tell me? Sounds more like you just cant be bothered?
@@24magiccarrotAnd pretending the issue is either one or the other, is exactly the kind of nonsense BS that is going on. Welcome to BS central, population, you.
Depending on the treatment and the state, you could be wrong. Multiple states have laws allowing minors to receive medical treatment without informing parents/guardians.
This Happened to me at 21 yrs old. Met her at an 18 and up club on vacation in Ocean city Maryland. She had just turned 15. She looked my age and acted like it and the friends that she was with were actually 18 and 19. She had a fake id with her photo. Keep in mind that I was making fake IDs at the time and even I couldn't spot that as a fake. We hooked up all week. Not only that but we continued to keep in touch for years and I saw her and spent the week with her the following year and then the following year after that. It wasn't until 3 months after the last time I saw her that she called me and told me the truth. I was shocked and incredibly angry. I spoke to her one more time after that and then blocked her she told me A few months after turning 18. I felt physically sick when she told me and it caused me to distrust a lot of females going forward.
Agreed. It's crazy to keep such information from the very person who will be expected to foot the financial bills for everything. When she's old enough to literally pay for the consequences of her choices, then she can wave that patient confidentiality flag.
Parents do have the right to know about their children. If not open the door kick the kid(s) to the street and tell them to get a job. If a child wants to quit school and lay around the house and do nothing but play video games and just smoke weed or get into trouble, or even get girls pregnant with no job or money. No' not going to happen here. My hubby and I aren't going to support our children until they turn age 50 or whatever age. Children need to learn 3 things. Have an education. how to manage a bank account and to keep a job. My hubby and I have raised our 11 children. Not a one has failed with their education or with work their history. My hubby and I have been with each other 47 years now. So yea he and I both know with even our children know that if you want it. Work for it. The world owes them nothing. We as parents owe it to our children to raise them responsibly.
Nothing you said is relevant to the clip though. The girl needed to get tested for stds. If those records hadnt been confidential theres a good chance she wouldve just not gotten tested and walked around with an untreated std.
@ maybe back in the 80’s when it was actually possible to support yourself immediately once you reached adulthood and we had a much more twisted concept of love. Nowadays they just have dead kids and homeless kids, and the ones who get lucky are on a therapist’s client list for an extended period of time.
It's scary for a young man in his late teens or early 20s when it comes to dating. I had a couple close calls with young girls pretending to be women. And it's so easy for a 15 or 16 year old girl to pass for a young adult. I'm glad I don't have to deal with that anymore.
Actually, by law in the state of Illinois minors who are 12-17 are allowed consent in their health care. Other states have different age laws. In Ohio if you're 15 and can prove you're mature enough to make you health decisions, you can.
@@kaylapounds1359 They should also be require to pay for their own care. If the state want to take away the parents' right then the child is now the state problem.
This sort of happened to a friend of mine. She met a guy in a bar, he had a beer in his hand when he introduced himself to her. Talked about his job, etc. They ended up going out & 6 months later, his mother shows up; turns out the guy was 15. My friend lost her cushy state job, lost her scholarships where she was finishing her degree, ended up in court and now has to register with the sex offender websites if she moves to a new place. It basically ruined her life. He LOOKED older. Full beard, 6'3", HAD A BEER IN HIS HAND, IN A BAR, & the job he talked about was construction. I thought he was an adult too. Its a fine line sometimes...
These laws NEED to be changed! Parents HAVE THE LEGAL AND PARENTAL RIGHTS to know what THEIR CHILDREN ARE BEING TREATED FOR! This is why most Parents do not take their kids to the doctors!
Most parents do take their kid to the doctor actually lol. And if your kid goes to the hospital by themself, without you, and doesn’t want you to know about it, there’s a reason
If you want to know what your child discusses with the doctor, you need to cultivate a relationship with your child that will encourage them to willingly share these details with you, and be open-minded to talk about sensitive topics. You don't have a right to find out against your child's will, what your child discussed with the doctor.
She was such a sad character. Falling in love and sleeping with a guy twice her age, abusive father, no mom. I’m so glad she got away
You just wrote out a part of my life, seeing it in writing actually makes it so much worse then I have ever let on
@@Blissfullyunaware13my heart is hurting for you reading that, I’m so sorry❤️❤️❤️
Max’s origin story. It all makes sense now!
No the little girl is an idiot who can’t handle living under authority. She could’ve got the doctor sent to jail for being promiscuous and a liar, very dangerous. And if cops can’t talk to minors without parents present then neither should doctors.
@@BoundariesMaintained😂😂
MAX IS SO YOUNG!!!
What if all of Max's stories are just the previous roles her actress played?
IKR crazy 💜💙❤️
@@Oskanwhitchfatheris the Darcy from thor
She's like 20 yrs old here
I was just thinking the same thing!
I remember this episode. The reason he didn't know her age or even ask is bc they met in a CLUB where he'd played w/his band occasionally. She also had a fake ID. Tbh, I don't know many people who when finding a hook-up in a BAR will ask, "hey, btw I see you have an ID showing you're old enough to get in here and drink, but how old are you really??" One-night stands/hook-ups don't usually have personal conversations. 😂🤣
What show?
ER, I haven't watched this for years.@@AM-mc8uq
@@AM-mc8uq ER
Girl, you’re making excuses here. In America, you know the difference between a 21 year old (legal age to drink in a bar) and a 14/15 year old. In fact, you know the difference between that and an 18 year old. You cannot mistake a child for an adult, anyone who claims that’s the case…. Is either ignorant or wanting to believe it’s a valid excuse. Have you ever slept with a minor because you thought they were older? No? Didn’t think so. Stop spreading that disgusting excuse.
@@brackenrobertson799 as a 21 year old who lives in the US your full of it. There's high-school kids looking like grown men and women. Meeting in a bar or club has an expectation of at least 18+ I wouldn't be checking ID either.
When I was 14 almost 15, I met my 24year old "boyfriend". I didn't lie about my age, I told him it was my 15th birthday in a month. Yet he still pursued and groomed me. Eventually he started beating me and abusing me in all kinds of ways. 3years later I managed to escape and I'm so thankful I did 🙏
good for u!
Shut up bitch that was your fault as to why you were in that situation your situation is 100% on you not on him.
Just avoid him maybe in the next life lol?
Yes!ur one of the biggest survivor's ❤ iam happy and proud 😊
wtf is wrong with you?🤨🧐 do your parents not care about you or something?
14 is not an age of consent... Anyone who thinks it is is crazy
they are talking about age of consent so that they can preform the tests… not the one about sex bro
I have a daughter who goes to therapy. She is 14 and she has to sign everything even medical releases.
@@oliverwills3556 I don't think that is an age of consent for anything... They're not talking about sexual consent in this video.. It's too young. I wouldn't allow my child at 14 to sign a waiver saying she could go on her own field trip at school. A child's brain is not fully developed until the age of 25. They're foreshadowing of actions Doesn't even begin till 13... Which means they can't look at an event and think what are the implications of this event in the future. How will this affect my life? Because their brain is not developed enough to think that way yet..
How many of us will let our 13-14 olds Walk down the aisle and marry a 25 My 30-year-old because they're in love? We all know the answer to that. They're too young to make a lifelong decision at 13 years of age! That's why it's a crime in America. Anyone under a certain age to get married without a parent's consent.
Scientific fact.. That's why people are not allowed to vote till at least the age of 18 and drink until 21 (other countries may be different) Because they're not grown up enough to take on that responsibility.
Nope it's not the age of consent...however even at that age the parents legally have zero right to know what she was treated for in reproductive rights or anything around that issue...down to sexual activity and birth control
In italy, SADLY, it is....
And in ten years she'll be roasting old ladies in a diner 😭
Edit: Wow! Thank you all for the likes!
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Is she max?
@@ZoudasThe one and only~
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Everyone saying you can look at someone and tell their age is really gullible bc I’m constantly being mistaken for as young as 15/16 and I’m 25 and sometimes people genuinely don’t believe me unless I show my ID or tell them I have toddlers. Can we please use common sense
They refuse to acknowledge the fact that it is common nowadays. They only care about the fact they haven't seen such people and will argue with the person themselves if they even meet them, saying there's no way they're the age they said instead of how they look.
My mother is in her mid 30's, yet I, her own daughter, often mistaken her for 20. She has been mistaken to be MY daughter and my sister's younger sibling.
I have a niece that when she was 9 y/o, I accidentally mistaken her for 29 y/o when she was doing the same make up as my sister for a traditional ceremony. They're only 10 years apart! It was just a simple light make up, yet she somehow looks far older than she actually is!
People can have different looks than their actual age, and it is far more common these days.
Take the mistaken age as a compliment for as long as you can. I looked like I was 12 yrs old until I had my daughter at age 26. I could still get into the movies and other places for a child's price until I was 25. I'm 52 now and still don't look my age. 😂😁
@@sandycarroll7656Are you under 5 feet? Asking bc for some reason ppl still assume short height correlates to being a child
I worked at a school when I was 22 and they confused me for a 6th grader ;-(
People don’t know age at all lol there were many times people thought I was much older when I was younger and now they think I look too young to be my age. It’s just not accurate to assume. People change way too much across the board
When I was 14, my cousin and I stayed at my grandpa's hotel for Spring Break. These two guys checked in when we were behind the desk. Later, we ran into them and started chatting. I remember thinking they were cool and having a lot of fun. They asked if we went to school in the town (it's a college town, but the middle and high scholls shared the same name as the college), I said yeah, I'm a Freshman at Blank. He was a Junior somewhere and 23. I remember very distinctly not thinking anything was wrong. I wasn't a partier, I didn't date, didn't socialize that much.
I think one of them asked, "So you're... 19?" And I said, "Oh, no, I'm 14." After a couple "You're joking"s, the conversation ended pretty quickly. I still remember being disappointed because we were having fun. I didn't want to hook up or drink with them or anything, but I did still want to hang out with them.
All that to say... me at 14 yrs old had NO CLUE! Brains are still 10 years from being fully developed. It did not cross my mind how much trouble I could have brought those guys. (This is not trying to excuse her. This is me saying how stupid I was.)
How much trouble you could bring to THEM????? How about how much trouble THEY COULD BRING TO YOU??? Like grooming you, taking advantage of you, r4ping you... wild that you still don't realize the potential danger you faced
@MariaPaula-uw3ds I do, but they left as soon as they learned our ages. And it's obvious what could have happened to me. That wasn't the point of my post. The reason I posted was because after seeing the teen in the clip still being unaware how improper her actions were made me remember how I felt in this situation. I didn't have a fake ID, nor did I place myself somewhere a minimum age could be assumed like the character in the clip did, however.
That's why parents need to be told. Kids might not see the seriousness of the situation or want to avoid embarrassment.
@@MariaPaula-uw3dsthey didn't do any of that......they stopped talking to her after hearing her age
Who cares about how much trouble "you could have brought them" that's NOT the point. Thing is, they did the right thing and walked away. You told the correct age. Some youth tell the correct age and they still don't walk away. The youth are NOT bringing shame or embarrassment just because scummy people won't walk away. Still telling truth as aging continues and the adults still don't listen is heartbreaking. I feel no simpathy for anyone who thinks they would bring shame to a predator by telling truth.
My husband started seeing a girl when he was 18. He thought she was maybe a year younger tops. Turned out she was 15. Luckily he found out before they did anything and broke up with her. She was VERY mad at him but he just kept telling her "I could go to jail. I don't like you THAT much."
Your husband is a smart man😂
In most states there is a Romeo and Juliet law where there has to be a 3 or 4 year difference in age for it to be statutory. With that said he’s lucky she didn’t go woman scorned and make up allegations against him.
I mean, he still should have been fine, right? A 3 year difference should fall under similar age laws, right?
@@owenchafer1083 depends on the state
A good reason to wait until marriage.
Friend of mine matched with a 19-year-old on a hook-up site and they met up several times. When her parents found out, they had him arrested because it turns out she lied on her profile and to him and was only 15, which he was horrified to discover. He spent eight years in prison, was beaten half to death more than once, is on the sex offender registry for life, and will never see his kids again. All because of a rebellious teen's lies and his own foolishness.
I hope she either changed big time or is an ex friend because that kind bull shit should not be tolerated. Your friend is a malicious monster.
@@graceray2283 It sounds like you didn't read the entire post
@@graceray2283she was friends with the arrested one not the liar
@@graceray2283Their friend is the one that ended up in jail, not the one that lied about her age
@moths.for.valentine how do you know the guy wasn't also 19 or early 20s? I agree its still too young for someone in their 30s and older but if they were close in age to each other why do you believe that's an issue?
When I was 24 and just married for 5 months, my fitness instructor thought I was 16, he was 21, and hitting on me. He also put me in the junior class. He was shocked to find out my age, and the guy who fetched me after sessions was my husband and not " boyfriend"
What a weirdo
Wtf
Finding out you were an adult he couldn't prey on was probably what upset him too. He thought you were 16 and hit on you that is so horrible. A lot of guys do lie about not knowing they were young too. People up in the comment section acting like this is the common of the girl lying and him not knowing. I looked older at 16 and so does my kiddo. When she was 12 grown men hit on her. I play a game when in stores called guess her age. Too many times I didn't get the response I wanted (when I state her age which should be a mix of shock and disgust they saw a child that way because those guys you know are going to check themselves in the future when they think someone is an adult). One guy who was maybe 18 or 19 though he was awesome. He was a clerk at a local store. He was looking at her a lot in that way so I played the how old do you think she is game. He said 18 or 19 and I said 12. The look of shock and confusion and horror on his face was the exact response you always want with something like that. I never called him on flirting with her. He knew he was hence the look of disgust after it all settled in (that he was flirting with her). From then on total ally on keeping guys aware she was 12/13/14. Saying to me loudly if some dudes were looking at her in the check out "I still can hardly believe she's only (add the age she was) she looks so much older. Sometimes it stopped them from checking her out. Not always 😢 because some guys really think kids are fair game when they are adults (hebephiles and ephebophiles. Types of pedo/child touchers for older kids like preteens to 17 hebephiles for the preteen early teens) 😢. However then they get the I will cut your balls off glare from me and they would back off.
Other times I've done this in other stores with young adult men checking her out often the women nearby/clerks usually hearing me ask to guess her age would be pretty close. The guys never seem to hear them talk and if they did they would be able to tell they are kids. You can hear her talking here and she sounds like an 8th grader.
Dudes if you want us to believe you didn't know most of us still feel it's their faults. This man is a doctor. Having a conversation is important. Had he bothered to really talk to her he could tell she was a kid. It's still his fault for not covering his a$$.
They don't want to talk to them because they don't want to know not really. They want a leg over and have decided it's going to be that person and having a conversation may cause them to not want to be with them. They may not mesh etc. So yes being hoebag dudes not even having a real conversation with them they deserve the prison time when it turns out they slept with kids. I don't believe for a second the maturity level of this kid had he actually tried to talk to her prior beyond just questions that he wouldn't have known her age.
Cover your a$$ out there hookups can exist with real conversations still. Ask about things kids won't know. I'm a phone sex operator. If I suspect a caller is a child I ask them their bday. They avoid the year because they NEVER do the math of year they would be born before faking they are older. Sure they may have fake id's in clubs but most of them don't bother to look at the year actually ask them when they were born without looking at their ID and they will stumble because they didn't think it through that much. We know what year we were all born when you see them trip up or take time (doing the math in their head) of year born you know they are lying.
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Please tell me you reported him!
I've never had a fake ID, but when I was 12 everyone I met always thought I was 27 years old. Now that I'm 35 everyone things I'm in my early 20's. Looks can be deceiving.
The fact that he didn't know. She knew. She's gonna get him trouble bc she wanted to get with him and not allow him to know her real age. SMH.
Depending on where you are that’s not always true. My friend was 15 and working in a restaurant. She didn’t disclose her age to one of the other cooks there who was 32.
She actually lied, but there was no proof she did.
Even when the kid admits to it
She never said she was of age from what this clip shows just that she was a “student” and he had sex with her. So that alone someone could make a case.
Rapist get away for brutal assaults and they talk more about their achievements. While innocent people have their lives implode for being accused.
To many fucked up people willing to destroy lives and lie. No one will really no the true full story other then the people in the situation.
It’s more about running the other person down and picking apart everything they say, and just sharing the actual truth.
If you look at that baby face and believe she's anything but a young teen, it's on you.
@@yessica5231yeah look at her, & LISTEN to how she talks. Clearly a child.
@@TheMasterMindGirl they're talking about the clip not in general
If a 14 year old can trick you into thinking they’re a college student, you weren’t trying too hard NOTto sleep with a 14 year old
I knew a girl in real life that did this, they met at a high school party. She only told the guy she was 14 when he was trying to break up with her, he had just turned 18. What followed was months of her constantly controlling, abusing, and manipulating him with the threat of turning him into the police if he didn'tdo what she wanted when she wanted. He eventually snapped and tried to off both of them at the same time. She was played off as a victim, he got life in jail.
He tried to “off both of them” so he tried to kill her? How is she not a victim in that situation? Doesn’t matter what she did up to that point when someone tries to murder you are a victim?
Lol he did not get life in jail. That never happened. Why make that up? Statutory rape between teens has never once lead to LIFE in jail. Smh people lie about weird stuff
@@cait2538 It was the attempted murder that got him life. He tried to strangle her to death in a park. Here you have to be 16 to sleep with an 18 year old and they have been taking it seriously since we have been having issues with this turning into human trafficking in my city. Also this took place in a very white neighborhood where "this never happens here".
@@Ophiotaurus_AKA_Bessie many people believe it is okay for someone to kill their abuser to get away from them. She was crazy too, stalking him, texting him in the middle of the night to call her or expect a visit from the police from r*ping a "poor little girl", and she intended him to skip college so she could spend more time with him. Also he could only get a job where she could also work.
So Sad!! She’s going to Regret doing that even if it means on her Day of Judgement from the Lord
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@@mariaca2458 season 12 episode 12 titled split decisions
Lost my virginity at 15 to a 22 year old. He did this against my will and other things. I was so young i thought it was love, and those who knew helped me hide it. I just hope someone is there for my kids to tell them the right thing if i ever miss something.
Don't give him the satisfaction of "having your virginity". You're a virgin up until you WILLINGLY give it to someone. I'm sorry Hun.
u thought it was love but he didi against ur will? no sense
Wtf is going on woman listen to me a 15 year old girl is not stopped she knows we ar not talking about a 7 or 10 girl
Because if u lose ur virginity to 16 years old is ganna be okay? It's the same s***
@@Alex.Atanasov321 me when I have no empathy or what manipulation is:
@@Alex.Atanasov321you are part of the problem. Get educated. Ignorance is not something to be proud about
As someone who has to ID people to make sure they're old enough as a job, I can confirm you cannot always tell by looking at people. I've ID'd a guy who was born in 1975 but had the roundest baby face. I'm talking Paul Rudd levels of not aging. I've also not ID'd someone because I thought they were at least in their 30s, but the next day, I saw them walking by in their high school uniform! We made awkward eye contact
I'm 45 and someone told me they thought I was in my 20s
I went to school with a 35-year black African, and he was always getting carded for ID when trying to buy alcohol.
I was born in 1975. I was still being ID'd 1n 2015... Then it suddenly stopped 😅 now I just look legally young.
Im 28 and ive seen people barely 18 look decades older and im like why am i a decade older but look more there age then they do my coworker did say i have a youthful aparence and he saw my mom and dad come in and asked me how old they are and i said dad is 58 and mom is 55 and he said they look around my age and said it might be a genetic thing to look younger than ur actual age with me and my fam it could be genetics for people on how old they look i was like guess some white folks age better than other ones
Paul Rudd ages I don’t get the whole Paul Rudd never ages thing. That’s gotta be weighing on him now that he’s really looks like he’s in his 50s hopefully it doesn’t bother him
Honestly, no one should use how a person looks to guess their age, when i was 12 people thought i was about 18-21, i was sick that time, when I told the doctors my age no one believed me.
I had a doctor's appointment when I was legal age to drink and the nurse tried to get my mom to come back cause she thought I was still a minor in high school.
I get "No way are you 32, I would have thought mid to late 20s" comments all the time. People are very bad at gauging ages, and some people, like myself, dress "younger" than expected (I also get, you don't dress like you're 30!).
Absolutely check ids with strangers
Yeah, the dude wasn't basing it off her looks. They met at a night club. She had a fake ID.
Yep when I was 12 people thought I was 16-17 bc I developed a LOT earlier then most of the girls my age and got hit on a lot by older men it was really uncomfortable.
And here’s me at 23 and people thinks I’m 14-17 like bruh I hate that because I don’t want minors hitting on me
I had the opposite problem. I was still being charged for half-fare on the daily bus to work after studying at school until 18. In the UK you can leave school at 16 if you don't need/want beyond basic qualifications. And full fares are charged at 14!
I have a friend whos life was ruined in a underaged situation. He was a year older than her (her 17 at the time) and they grew up together. However when the parents found out that they were sexual together they had him charged with statutory rape and hes been listed as a registered sex offender ever since. He did nothing wrong but love her. He was going to marry her. Anyways his life was ruined before it started. He struggles getting work, housing, friends and so on. The girl ended up committing suicide because of her parents over reacting.
I hope the parents are happy with themselves.its a shame for the loss. I have always been supportive of my friend and will continue to stand in his corner.
I’m sorry that’s a horrible story, some states have Romeo and Juliet laws to prevent things like this happening
Hmm… this sounds like some “and THAT is why I’m a registered sex offender” story. I’m dubious…
A singular year older????? That's crazy
Wait
They literally got someone killed
And ruined the life of someone else for literally no reason
And NOTHING went wrong for those parents?!
@@dkat8087No, no, no. Literally everything you just said is a lie. There are no doctors performing sex change surgeries on minors without parental consent. That is not happening. Don't spread untrue information.
(And this conversation had absolutely nothing to do with trans people anyway, it's almost like you're just trying to start drama.)
Tbf, she does not look anywhere under 18 (thanks, television) and she was found in a club rated 18+. Part of me feels like a judge would rule in his favor if a case were to rise.
Here’s the dilemma with the evidence I have gathered from the comments and the short. Yes, hooking up with a minor is illegal. Let’s get this straight here. I hate pedos more than anything. BUT, what the girl did was also illegal. She made a fake IR then snuck into a club and most likely consumed alcohol while underage. Now I’m no expert in law, but it seems like this would fail under something like “I genuinely assumed she was this age” and if she was purchasing alcohol and/or at a 21+ club, any person would have likely assumed she was at the least 21. Now, not saying that Max sleeping with her isn’t HIGHLY ILLEGAL, but also he had a good defense too as the girl was the one doing things only a legal adult would do. So yeah.
This actually happened and the girl and her friend later tried to say he sa'd her. He was found innocent because the bar they were at had cameras outside showing there interaction.
Yeah this is a huge problem now & bc prosecutors, etc want to make a name for themselves often people are insanely charged as they are another full blown pedo. I went to school with a guy who served 6 years for looking at barely legal porn & kept clicking links that were bait from the state agency! Every thumbnail on every page was literally a charge!
The term you’re looking for is called “mens rea”. It means guilty mind in Latin.
Many crimes require intent or knowledge of the crime, rather than simply doing something illegal. Some do not.
@@NopeUghUghAbsolutelyNotwhat about interaction here?
@@zydration3538 It showed he didnt coerce her. They were outside just talking and she was grabbing on him pulling him off away from her friend so they could leave together
Omg max looks like a baby in this scene. Im loving her with no makeup!
She has a full face of makeup.
Lol
That's where I know that face!
Max?
She has makeup on
i’m seeing some people in the comments saying that he “should’ve known” but you can ABSOLUTELY confuse minors for adults. when i was 13 i was checking out by myself and the cashier at the grocery store asked if i had graduated high school with them bc i looked familiar. when i was training for my current job i was 15 and my boss assumed i was 18 (my manager was the one who interviewed and hired me and knew my age). i’ve been getting mistaken for a college student since i was 12. some kids just look or act older, and some adults have baby faces. you can’t always tell how old someone is from their appearance/mannerisms. and on top of that, he met her in a BAR. she had a FAKE ID. it’s not his fault.
She also says that he never asks for her age even once & she doesn’t seem like she has a problem being honest about it…it’s very well known that children and teens go into bars with fake ids all the time. That doesn’t mean it’s okay to SA them. Stop taking a predators side…disgusting
He never even bothered to ask her age, also she carries and talks in a very childish manner
@@agereartist3763dude some 18yrs olds act like that, regardless she still faked an ID. It’s still her responsibility as she knew what she did
@@wendyev310she still faked an ID, it’s still her fault for not thinking about her own safety. Any minors with a fucking brain knows not to go there AT ALL. Adults can very well be victims too also, there are plenty of 18yrs olds that do act like that
@@wendyev310 so u would rather ruin his life when clearly he knows it's wrong and wouldn't be ok with it just bc he didn't think to ask her her age at a 21+ bar? I could understand if he thought it was ok to do but he clearly doesn't now that he knows. And u would really excuse what she did? He clearly didn't know and when u think about it most people at a bar aren't going to stop and think to ask someone their age, especially if they have been drinking. U don't tend to have common sense at a bar if u know what I mean
This idea that a parent does not have the right to know what their 14 year old is doing is just stupid. It may prevent abuse from time to time but in most cases will result in the child making some really bad choices from lack of guidance.
Ideally a parent *should* know what their 14 year old is doing. They shouldn’t need to be told.
My oldest is 12 and I'm not allowed to make up a mychart for him . He had bloodwork and xray on his knee done and i was told I can't have access to it. ITS TOTALLY BULLSHIT. Children are considered minors until 18. I'm legally responsible for him until then unless it's medical? But I still have to pay for insurance and the bill but not know what it's for.( paying for it is not what I'm bitching about) A child can not consent to anything because they lack the mental capacity to grasp the long term consequences.This country is ass backwards.
@@virginiaviola5097those are just that, ideals
@@virginiaviola5097that's a fantasy and the parent cannot know what the doctor is doing until the doctor tells them. This is such a bad take. Go to sleep, wake up, and delete it
In California they are now using these kind of laws for psych drugs, puberty blockers, etc. They are being influenced to think all parents are close-minded bigots so the parents aren't told anything.
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This is ER?! With George Cluney?
God! I must have stopped watching around series 10 then.
Thanks., I take it this is the brunette from 2 broke girls.
People need to know that being a minor, 14 year old doesn't mean being clueless about everything in life. 14yo me certainly knew what would happen if I lied about my age, got myself a fake ID, drank illegally and slept with a 21yo man. Some teenagers would purposefully get people into trouble because it's "fun" for them to do so. Yes, adults in their life should be responsible and be hold accountable for how they turn out. However, that doesn't mean they're entirely not to be blamed. They may not know better, but they definitely know
"they may not know better, but they definitely know"?
@@jamiethebookworm They may not know better about life and laws and "adult stuff", but they def know the basic of what they're doing, if it was right or wrong and how it would affect others
The problem is education. When I was 15 I had a crush on an 18 year old at my after-school job. Fortunately we were both responsible young people - I had no desire to start a relationship before finishing school, and he avoided me entirely. Quite hurt my feelings at the time.
I literally had never been told what year was the age of consent legally. I just knew everyone but me was hooking up. Never occurred to me HE would get in trouble simply because of our ages when neither of us would have gotten in trouble hooking up with someone our own age! Even though nothing happened, I have since felt guilty about the anxiety it must have caused him knowing an underage girl liked him. If I had ever been TOLD what the age of consent actually was, I would never have tried to flirt with him. I was old enough to know right from wrong. I knew breaking the law was wrong. But SOMEONE should have taught me what the law actually said at that age; I would have been fully capable of understanding!
@@cmm5542 Also if they are willing to be educated and learned about that. Some teens I met know whether something is wrong or not (illegally clubbing, doing drugs, drinking, having sex etc). Schools do offer education about things like that (at least in my country, they teach about ages in consent, marriage, working,... in the law system), but some teens would do it anyway just for the fun of it. Though I'm relieved that most teens nowadays are more educated and responsible, it's still sad how some would knowingly ruin other people's life because they know that they will not be punished for it legally
@@aferalpeach2771Teenagers don't know a lot about life, but they DO know what's ILLEGAL!
Turning 15 in 8th????? I was a senior at 17...
Some people get held back or are born too late in the year to start kindergarten or preschool.
@@raythunder8619 I guess you're right! But that's a lot of hold back!!
Yeah all those numbers check out
Yeah I was a senior in graduated at 16LOL... I didn't skip any grades or anything it's just what happens when you have a birthday in a specific month...
As you know a lot of people's bdays are during the school year. If she's 15 at the end of 9th then 16 in 10th 17 in 11th 18 in 12th is the exact same as u
And if she used a fake to Possibly entrap this guy, I see it as a crime cause in reality if you're in a over 21 establishment, there should be a sense of comfort that anyone in question should be doing a consensual act an also that club could be sued cause they didn't do their job.
We have a family friend who's oldest son was lied to by a girl of her age he tried breaking up with her that's when she told the truth of her age cause she and her parents were pressing charges. He got deported lives in TJ and is addicted to meth and fentanyl. My dad's friend who is this guy's dad is severely depressed about the outcome of his oldest son's life.
That is why we have to fight against the me too BS, it is not fair they get to falsely accuse and then nothing happens to them. I hope your family friend gets the justice and help he deserves, God bless him!! 🙏🏻
"Whats the big deal?" Thr fact that you have to ask that question and even follow it up with "we like each other. Its fun." Like that magkcally justifies everything just proves youre not mature enough to consent to sex and to take on its consequences. Teenagers think that because they're going through puberty and are almost 15, that theyre adults, like 15 magically makes you an adult now. The more you hear a kid say "I'm practically an adult!" The more you know how not grown up they are.
TRUE; HOWEVER...
MET IN AN ADULT CLUB...
DRINKING...
HOOKED UP...
NOT A LOT OF TALKING TO FIGURE OUT FROM HER CONVERSATION THAT'S SHE'S A CHILD VERSUS JUST AN IMMATURE WOMAN!
NOT HIS FAULT!
@@docej3025 you do realize that's what I'm saying right? Them hooking up isn't really his fault. And her asking what the "big deal" is shows how immature she is. And any minor who doesn't see the problem of being a minor having sex with an adult just proves they're too immature to be consenting to sex
that is the justification people use for hookups at any age
The crazy thing is the guilty child often got away with their breaking the law exactly because they're still underage, while the adult *victim* is forced to take the punishment exactly because they're the adult! Life forever ruined by an impulsive child, with prison record.
Blah blah bla
This almost happened to a friend of mine. He was at a party and a girl started hitting on him hard. He was flattered and interested, but someone pulled him aside and informed him that she was 13. He noped the fuck out and stopped hanging out with that crowd. Who gives alcohol the a 13 year old???
Other teens in high school duh.
Honestly I know she was a kid and all but 13 is old enough to understand you can put someone in jail. That's selfish af
@@Warrenmitchumor parents who think it’s better if they drink supervised
@@ghost-bison 13 yo is a child
A 13 year old who even wants to hit on a fully grown man obviously has a bunch of issues and the fact she's been provided with alcohol actually doesn't surprise me at all.
What world is this? That women told the doctor he'd be breaking the law telling the father? In the world I'm from, this women is the one breaking the law!!
That's the point. Shes doing it because she doesn't want her friend to go to jail for diddling a teenager.
It’s not telling the truth that will land him in jail it’s the fact that the truth is that he hooked up with an EXTREMELY underaged girl and it doesn’t matter if she pursued him first and lied. Even if he didn’t go to jail on the account of him not knowing her age, his reputation as a doctor would be ruined. He could ruin his life and his coworker was trying to protect him.
@@batman369able It's not the guy's fault. He was tricked.
If the dad wasn't present, i would've believed this is a prequel of 2 broke girls
On 2 broke girls, Max admittedly does have a high body count.
She doesn't really care about his life she just wanted to have fun. This is so sad when parents raise their kids thinking that they are capable of making adult decisions but when they turn around and get someone in trouble who's to blame?
What is this?
Who’s to blame? THE DAM FATHER & the fully GROWN male who so desperately claimed he JUST can NOT tell if they female is a 21 yrold OR a 16 yrold 🫵🏻🫵🏻🫵🏻🫵🏻🫵🏻😭🤣 poor males POOOR boys you yall are just sooo dumb&incapable of huh? 🤡🤡🤡
@@POSSIBLYHIGHBITCH! THERE ARE 21+ including me(I’m 23) that do look underaged and I always get mistaken for a 14-17yrs old. Also, she faked her ID it’s her fault because she exactly knew what she was doing is completely wrong
@@POSSIBLYHIGH The girl is also to blame, she knew she could get him into trouble. Also, appearance wise, 21 and 16 doesn't really have a big difference
@@aferalpeach2771 yes it absolutely does
She would deserve it not him. She had a fake ID and faked her age.
When i was her age i had a doubles and a bubble. Young adults can have a youthful face and teens start growing hair. Exspecially now days.
Teenagers who fake age, such as using fake ID and not being truthful. If they are near 16 and have obvious pubery or wear make up to make themselves look older.
Should be held responsible more so than the dude if he proves he absolutely had no idea.
Why was he with someone so young looking?
She was a kid - it's her parent's fault for not monitoring her. And it's the guys fault for hooking up with random people. This is God's punishment for him having s3x before marriage. If he had got to know her first and met her family, he would have realised her age. I don't have sympathy for people who casually sleep around.
@@anonimulmistocar4542because the writers wrote the scene that way.
@Ri57490 That's horrendously closed minded
There was a girl who was a freshmen in my high school that was dating a guy who was a freshmen in college and they had been dating for a year so since she was 13. It always made my skin crawl seeing them together.
8TH GRADE*
Disgusting🤢
I will never understand how a man can go to jail for a girl lying about her age…. I can understand if it’s obvious that she’s a child but I could look at her and think she’s in her 20s
he never even asked about her age... she only said she is a student and he asumed. If he actually asked and she said she is 20 while she is not it would not be his fault. but he did not ask. he asumed that her saying she is a student ment in university.... Also if you want to be on the save side as a guy: ask her to show her ID. that is the only way you can be sure, cause it is Impossible to tell a girls age just from looks there are 15yo who look 25 and 25yo who look like 15...
@@blackforest_fairy yeah, no.... She was in a 21+ bar, drinking with a fake ID. She lied and he had no way of knowing it. Every single clue here says she's over 21. ALSO, asking a girl for an ID while trying to get her to hook up with you is a really good way to ensure that she wont.
@@EricJohnson1989 It is well known that underaged people make their way into bars andclubs they are not allowed to be. So her beeing in a bar for people 21+ does not free him from his resposibility to make sure she is not underage. Also if she would have refused to sleep with him because he asked for her ID it would have saved him from comitting a crime. if goes to jail he deserves it cause he did not make sure the girl h is interested in is old enough.
@@blackforest_fairy She was at a club, drinking alcohol, using a fake id. In full glamour makeup. Are you really blaming him?
@@blackforest_fairy "You look really hot tonight. Can I see your id?" If this is what hooking up and flirting is coming too, we'll soon be extinct. And maybe that's a good thing.
This breaks my heart when this happens.. poor girls, poor guys..
Best thing you can do is let it go and let me handle it ...said every handlers and procurers in the hip hop industry.
Yes, but she did the right thing to protect him! Should she let him out to the wolves to suffer a crime he could have not avoided because the girl LIED???? There are real victims of SA out there and this little is no victim.
I'm almost 30 and people won't believe me when I told my age. Plus I'm an asian. I look early 20's or I could even pass as an 18 or 19 they said 😅
Its important to let the other person(especially to men) your actual age when having a conversation to avoid misunderstanding and any unnecessary trouble. Good men will leave you alone while bad men will keep hitting you up. If you're unlucky meeting the bad ones, leave immediately. Same goes to underage boys and if you meet older women who knows your age but still hitting you up, leave immediately.
If he can prove he had no idea about his age it will hold up in court. A minor lying about their age can actually land them in juvie too.
She didnˋt lie, he never asked her how old she is.
@@jownajowana That is lying by omission though. Yes, it is advisable to ask someone's age always before having sex with them, but you have to think of the reasonable person standard in court and argue that to a jury. About the juvie aspect on the other side that would be up to a judge
@@jownajowanashe used a fake ID that’s enough proof
She was a kid - it's her parent's fault for not monitoring her. And it's the guys fault for hooking up with random people. This is God's punishment for him having s3x before marriage. If he had got to know her first and met her family, he would have realised her age. I don't have sympathy for people who casually sleep around.
@@Ri57490 Girls in the bible regularly got married and had sex at 13, so trying to bring god into this is hilarious. Mary, through historical context, was most likely about 14 when she gave birth to jesus. If the bible had anything to do with it this girl would have been married off and became some man's property by her age.
He wont go to prison because he had all reasons to believe she was over 18, even if she never explicitly stated it
Still really sad for them both, hope the girl gets help
Unfortunately the law doesn't work like that. Even if he didn't know, he'd still get charged with statutory r(a)pe.
Charged, but unlikely to be convicted due to a reasonable person believing she was over the age of 18 due to her actions being in a bar with a fake ID.@@TimberlakeTigerGirl
@@TimberlakeTigerGirltrue.
@@TimberlakeTigerGirl Doesn't matter. Every actions counts.
I was under age when i went to child and adolescent mental health services. My abusive parents tried to get my information and control my treatment. I was very grateful that the staff didnt let my parents bully them into giving them what they wanted
I've also had nurses and doctors thankfully kick them out of the hospital when they were giving me trouble or they felt i wasnt able to answer or talk openly in front of them
Such people look after us in more ways than one
So your parents were concerned about your health and you put your trust in strangers instead.
Who paid the bill?
@@lanceneol8162 oh shut the fuck up. Are you purposely antagonistic or do you just lack basic reading literacy? Their parents were abusive and these strangers weren't. It's as simple as that.
The staffs and this child trafficking center need to be send to prison.
i continue to thankGod for my strict parents they really protected me and taught me alot, 😊
Kat Denning was pretty then and now.
I hope you are 15, because hmmm
@@Sunshine21802 actress is 19 in this scene, just playing the part of a 14 year old.
@@Sunshine21802 They just said she was pretty wtf
She looks sickly here compared to our voluptuous Max lol
Kat Dennings is about 4 years older than me. I agree that she is pretty now. I think she was 18-19 when this was filmed. She was cute then and a hottie now
Jessminda, Max, and Landon all in one scene! 😍
Thankyou!!! You were born in the late 80's early 90's I bet right lol
I was shocked when I saw another short scene of him from this and it made me emotional Landon was a doctor in a “continued” universe !
I literally look barely 18, i get id every single time because they never think I'm of legal age, and I'm 24, so i feel really bad for the guys that accidentally sleep with a minor because the minor in questions lied about their age to be cool. Girls and women like that should be at least fined, and society needs better sex education and knowledge around situations like this
They can tell, trust me. There is a BIG difference in maturity between a 12-16 year old and someone who is an adult.
@drnefarious2758 that's not true for everyone literally met a girl at a Christmas party last year who was talking about being in school I was sure she was in her 20s and talking about college nope she was 16 and in high school. I am 30 I could not tell she was under 18 at all.
Girl them grown dudes KNOW 😭😆
@@alorastewart7091 you are just GR0SS 🫵🏻🫵🏻🫵🏻😭 I hope you don’t have kids or at least daughters omg
If you're banging someone without knowing their actual age that seems like an issue
I grew up in the Foster system, I am well-versed in juvenile law. Children do not have rights because they are incapable of assuming responsibilities.
I literally grew up as a ward of the Court.
Aren't she underage though?? Here in my place underage kids still need parents consent and have the right to know what is going on with their children especially health
My son is 15, and when he turned 13, his medical records became private. Some new law. I can see his appointments but nothing else and I have to have his permission to be in the exam room with him.
Not when it comes to sexual health. Once a girl turns 12 in most states, the doctor legally can not tell the parents without the child's consent. Even if your teenager is having a baby and you want to know the gender and the teen wont tell you, there is nothing the doctor can do. If you dont believe me, if you check your health insurance and you dont see any of the claims for your preteen/teenage daughter (especially pharmacy claims) then you have to ask her to give you permission to view them
it depends on the type of healthcare being provided as well as that laws for that specific state. there a certain protected health conditions where institutes can keep information from the family. some for example are mental illnesses or pregnancy. from what i’ve seen it’s usually 14+.
it can seem ridiculous but think about it this way. let’s say im trans, i went to my psychiatrist and they officially diagnosed me with gender dysphoria. understandably i can tell the psychiatrist even as a minor, whether you personally agree with transgenderism or not, « don’t tell my parents, if they learn about this i could get thrown out ». if my state allows it, the psychiatrist must legally keep it confidential. the confidentiality is mainly for the purpose of safety for the minors who request it.
the parents can know all about what’s going on if the minor grants permission for that information to be released to the parents.
Not when it comes to reproductive rights
In Minnesota it’s 13 and all records are protected from even parents. I had to have my daughter sign a form to grant me access. It’s sounds wild but I have had one weird parent asking inappropriate questions about his daughter and I was happy to tell him i couldn’t release her information without her consent and he was pissed.
That “doctor” is wild…you’ll go to jail…let me handle this.
Since the daughter was seen in a bar for adults, the male doc could inform the father about that.
@@jenniferh1416 Her father was abusive. That wouldn't end well.
She should go to jail for covering up evidence of a crime!
She is more deserving of jail time than he is!
@@lauraelliott6909 Having the father be abusive is just a Hollywood cop-out to make it seem like parents shouldn't be informed of things that they definitely should be! It's just a writing cop-out to give a reason why it's somehow okay to cover this all up!
@@Warriormon87thank you. Hollywood ( a place known for abusing children) always likes to write the parents as always abusive and the mostly woman’s doctors (watched enough shows to see this as a pattern) trying to cover up crimes because of some BS laws put forth by. Our supposed representatives. If there is abuse in the home then get a court order so the minor does not have to let them know anything. Otherwise the parent has a right to know
If a hospital treats a minor without parental/guardian consent, that is a violation of law in every state. HIPPA does not apply untying they turn 18. If hospital staff suspect the parents of abuse, they are obligated by law to report it to authorities but can not withhold medical information from their parents without a court order. This video is very misleading.
Keep that bill confidential too lol. If parents can’t know they shouldn’t have to be financially responsible, insurance and all.
Under the confidentiality bill in my state the medical services are not billed to the parents because that would violate the 14 year old's confidentiality
There shouldn't be any bills for medical treatment anyway
@@bryannothem1505it’s unavoidable. Doctors have bills to pay too. You can’t expect work for free
@@eyestellitall California? lol
The father has a right to know about the medical needs of his daughter, especially since he will be the one to pay thw medical bills
Not in every state. Where i am, parents are no longer privy to confidential information once the child is 13. The reason that law exists is because of situations like these. It was a good thing too, given that this guy is abusive and feel entitled to his daughter’s body
You have no parental rights in America. Thank the Demoncrats.😒😡😡😡
This situation is the reason parents need to know.
@@kiera6326You do know this is a tv show (ie fiction) right?
@ one which we’re applying to real world scenarios. Fiction is meant to be discussed.
The irony of Shane West lecturing Kat about STDs is just too much 😂😂😂
Kat Dennings is a great actress. She's so well rounded. Can act in serious roles and comedic roles. I love her. Shes beautiful
He would be blamed and jailed, nevermind he had no idea about her age because she hid it. There has to be a way to give girls like these consequences without undoing years, decades even, of work trying to catch and put predators behind bars...
This is a show. In real life it's pretty clear when someone is underage by that many years. If they're 17 and say they're 18, sure I can see someone getting reasonably confused there. But 14? Most 14 year olds LOOK 14.
@Sasuga_Skky that's false. I was wearing training bra's in first grade and had large breasts by the time I was fourteen and was even called ma'am by a young woman. Not everyone acts their age. Circumstances and parenting can significantly impact your behavior. I heard a story about a middle aged woman trying to fight a girl in her early to mid twenties. If someone has a matured body, has access to a fake ID, and can lie convincingly this situation is definitely plausible. Do some research, get out more. Rarely is anything as black and white as you seem to assume itis. Child murders exist, but a teen girl lying about her age is somehow impossible to you? I repeat do some research, and get out more.
She is obviously young looking? Why was he a predator and a creep and did it with her?
@@kailynncovington3907 Um...that's not what I said. You might need to check your reading comprehension skills. As a 14 year old I was also fully developed, but it was still pretty clear that I was young, young enough to warrant doubt in an adult's mind. Children can 100% lie about their age, I'm sure they do very often, I know I did. That's not what the point I'm making. The point is that while 14 doesn't look that different to 18 in this video (due to it being a TV SHOW), in real life the difference is very different. Could there be exceptions, maybe, but majority of the time 14 year olds look young enough for an adult to know that maybe sleeping with them is not a good idea, especially because as you said, children can lie about their age.
@Sasuga_Skky ok, but not everyone looks their age. That's a fact. Some people look much older and some people look much younger. Also, it's important to consider the situation surrounding it all. In this situation, the people involved were in a club. It's not unreasonable to assume the person you're talking to is an adult. Especially if the person doing the assuming has been drinking. IN THIS CONTEXT THE GIRL IS IN THE WRONG. PERIOD. She snuck into a club with a fake ID and slept with a guy who thought she was an adult BECAUSE THEY MET IN A CLUB. Most people don't think to check the ID of the people they're talking to while in a club because there's an entire person for that. Also even if you do ask to see a fake ID, if you don't know what you're looking for and or are drunk, it's meaningless. This just convinces me the people paid to do their jobs don't know what their doing.
Why are some ple blaming the victim. when I was a young teenager I would never have done something as crazy as this and neither my friends . Stop finding excuses for the girl bad behavior, she lied and decived a man into having s*x with her, in a way she rapped him. Bcse if the guy knew her real age he would'nt have had s*x with her, he would'nt have given his consent, It is 100% the girl fault. What she did was bad and disgusting, and those who are defending her are just as disgusting as her.
She an immature child. Two things can be true at once. She clearly doesn’t have the mental capacity to see why it’s wrong. Don’t be dense. You sound like a person that slept with someone underage and needed to justify it.
She is 14.
@@jownajowanashe still faked an ID, she clearly knows what she was doing. Unfortunately there are minors who do these kind of bs and I’m tired of it
She was a kid - it's her parent's fault for not monitoring her. And it's the guys fault for hooking up with random people. This is God's punishment for him having s3x before marriage. If he had got to know her first and met her family, he would have realised her age. I don't have sympathy for people who casually sleep around.
@@LeGheyTrashshe faked an ID to go to a club - to dance and possibly drink alcohol. She didn't fake an ID to get into a s3x dungeon or buy items from a s3x shop.
Gotta respect the doctor for not letting him expose himself and get in jail over something he shouldn't even be blamed for.
Max Black in high school!’ Wow!’
8th grade, actually
I went to school with a guy who accidentally slept with a 15 year old girl when he was 21. Her parents found out and had him arrested and he was facing jail time and a lifetime of being in the registry for offenders so he un-alived himself a week before sentencing to avoid being abused in prison and a lifetime of having to explain how he met this girl at a concert and because she was ordering drinks with the group at a bar that day he assumed she was of age b/c he said the other 2 girls she was with were also buying drinks so the thought of them being under age wasn’t in his mind. But anyways that girl took his life the one he would have had to live and the one he took to avoid that life….
That's very sad. I hope the girl forgives herself and prays for his soul.
She did GOOD. Girls just want to have FUN. BUT it’s up to you as a grown male to be the responsible smart one or sin and ofc get life in jail 🧚🏻 ya’lll have the power to choose so choose correctly dog. 🫵🏻🫵🏻🫵🏻🤣
@@POSSIBLYHIGHliterally stfu, there are 21+ people with a babyface. These type of minors sicken me because all they do is harm adults just because they think it’s cool to ruin someone’s life like that
She was a kid - it's her parent's fault for not monitoring her. And it's the guys fault for hooking up with random people. This is God's punishment for him having s3x before marriage. If he had got to know her first and met her family, he would have realised her age. I don't have sympathy for people who casually sleep around.
Actually it’s the bouncer or whoever is in charge of verifying IDs.
While yes she has the consent to keep her medical records confidential they also have the legal responsibility to report sexual abuse of a minor which unfortunately will involve the parents because of most police departments consent laws with minors.
If parents don’t have the right to know their children’s medical information then they shouldn’t be forced to pay for the treatments. In what other situation are you forced to pay for mystery services or goods? It makes no sense. Parents should be allowed to drop kids off their insurance and no longer be financially responsible if they can’t know or have a say in the treatment.
@@tinkthestrangethat'd be kinda messed up
@@alicev5496 Nah, I'd say it's pretty fair. I'm not paying for something I had no knowledge or input in. Parents should definitely be informed with medical matters.
That's if there is an abuse. You obviously don't know what sexual abuse is.
One thing in the principles of human Services category is that you should never let that information go out there even if it's the child's parent they are allowed to have their privacy it is only between her and the doctor.
Look, she was at fault... Period!!! If she lied about her age, he should not be punished... Even if it is a 80 yr old man and a 20 yr old, it is still legal so don't talk about it's still disgusting and whatnot... Also A LOT of kids under 18 look and act older... Myself included... But I also have enough common sense to not pull characterless shit like this!!! He was not at fault... As far as he knew, what he was doing was legal!!! Other opinions about good or bad don't matter!!! She deceived him!! If anything he is a victim here, not her
Why was he with someone so young looking?
@@anonimulmistocar4542because young looking people including me deserve love too. I’m tired of people assuming I’m 14-17 when I’m 23. I just want to be loved by others and not make others uncomfortable due to my slow aging face. It’s not my fault that I was born to age slow! Before you judge anyone, just be mindful that there are people who are over 21 that looks underaged
@@LeGheyTrash Nice try to gaslight by making it emotional. Didn't work. And is still a fact that most people who want younger partner are older men, and most of the times is because they have predatory wants, or they see women as breeding tools or they sexualize young bodies. If they actually want love they can't find it in women their age too.
she was neglected in the show, plus shes UNDERAGE. she didnt know better, and your brain is fully developped at 18. Your'e calling the 20 year old the VICTIM? Both are at wrong but the way you phrased this leaves a bad taste in my mouth.
She was a kid - it's her parent's fault for not monitoring her. And it's the guys fault for hooking up with random people. This is God's punishment for him having s3x before marriage. If he had got to know her first and met her family, he would have realised her age. I don't have sympathy for people who casually sleep around.
For anyone who's unaware or on the fence about the situation; there's a loophole the Doctor is using.
Hospitals are legally obligated to protect and conceal any treatment done to patients; it's called the "Health Insurance Portability and Accountability Act" or HIPAA, and it extends to everybody, even minors. HIPAA Laws allow Parents to have access to their Children's medical records and treatment information as long as the Child consents.
So do they have to have consent from the parents to charge their insurance company for these visits?
@Theresalynn69 That's an entirely different matter altogether. The short answer is "yes"; while the long answer is "They can, but they're not supposed to."
All Doctors with a medical license adhere to the Hippocratic Oath, a set of ethical rules that state what doctors can and cannot do when treating any patients. HOW the doctors get paid is up to them; insurance is just the fastest standard. If they choose, a doctor can either do the treatment for free or receive an alternative form of monetary payment besides insurance.
That's not entirely correct. A parent acts as a personal representative of a minor child, which allows them access to medical records of the minor, with the exception of medical records wherein the minor consented to medical care without the consent of a parental representative. I think parents should have full access to all medical records of a child whilst under their care. It is the parents' duty to look after the welfare of their child. It's particularly prevalent in this day and age where kids can go to "school" one day as a boy and come back home as a "girl".
@kidsmooth6549 You are correct. However, please remember that in this video the girl received medical treatment without parental representation and didn't consent to her father knowing what she underwent; which is the crux of the dilemma. She didn't want her father to know.
It's a grey area that too many people are quick to conclude without any deliberation.
@@kidsmooth6549for STD treatment and screening, it's legal for minors to do without consent because the system finds that children are more in danger involving parents
Can't believe how young max is she's so beautiful 😊❤🎉
Who is she?
"her privacy" word is conditional fpr children as it should be. children are not adults and not supposed to take knowledgeable and right decisions all the time, not to mention the consequences of their decisions fall upon parents as well.
If they had sex, and she's underage, that doctor is a mandatory reporter.
Yeah but given how she met the guy while trespassing in a club using a fake ID, drank alcohol, & never told him her actual age until now: the girl would be at fault & not the adult.
@@GranDOise-vb5xofalse. The adult is always the culpable party.
@@GranDOise-vb5xo Still seems super shady for that female doctor to cover up a crime.
@@GranDOise-vb5xo kids are stupid. "I thought she was older" is not a valid defense. Even if it were, the doctor is still a mandatory reporter, and a crime has occurred.
@@Kosmisch1987she’s not covering up a crime, she’s just not violating HIPPA laws - also a crime, and the right thing to do in this instance given that her dad is abusive
A parent absolutely does have the right!
That's what I said! This gets me all kinds of riled up
The Father has the right as a parent to know
Max !!!! Omg 😳 !!! What show is this?? 😮😮😮
Anyone have the name of the show?
I just found it. It's ER season 12 episode 12!!
Parents do have a right to know what’s going on with their children. They’re legally responsible for them until they’re 18. So how can you be responsible for someone else, but denied basic info about their medical treatment.
Not in 49 out of 50 states. STD testing and treatment is covered by HIPAA from 12-16 depending on the state.
@@bryannothem1505which changes nothing. Simply by knowing that law and them refusing to tell you, you will know its std related. Really stupid you ask me.
@BraveShowBoys that's not always the case. Most people are dumb and don't look up these laws and their are other restrictions that HIPAA protect children with. Not to mention, mistakes, lack of proof, etc.
My point is that the law is stupid. The parents are legally responsible for the medical bills, but can’t know why their child is getting medical treatment. Can you not see the issue there?
@Kmb33831 yea, people have medical bills.
If you are actively going out hooking up with men who are adults at 14-16 you should be charged as a predator not the man who had no idea how old you are, to the guy you are the age you said you are, you are in a bar which is for 21+ you are the predator not the guy who's at a place for adults I'm so sick and tired of guys being accused of child p when they were at places children shouldn't be! There's an age requirement for a reason!
You’re an idiot. Children don’t think like adults do, that’s why they can’t consent. If you seriously think a child would be the predator over a grown adult whose brain is almost developed if not developed, you’re actually dense. Also, maybe you should actually get to know someone a little more before you engage in sexual activity, but what do I know?
While I agree this behavior isn’t good, I’m not sure predator is the right word here
When I was 13, I met a guy in a bookstore. We spent an hour chatting about the books we’d read, identified some favorite authors in common- then we exchanged numbers and he invited me to his place to see some “first editions.” I was excited to go. I loved the idea of seeing those first editions.
When he called to plan a date- my mom had to clue me in. Then, I had to clue him in. He thought I was in my early 20s. He was shocked.
Awwww that's young Kat, she was so cute 😭😭
Kat who?
Well this is what hookup culture will get you. I know a guy who was 28 and did this with a 16 year old because she was at a college party. Her sister went to school there and let her come. And she told people and he ended up getting arrested. His buddies told him it was lame still going to college parties, and he learned real quick.
Sounds like your 28yo friend had far more issues than hookup culture.
People can lie in relationships as well, btw.
I mean....hookup culture contributes, sure, but go back 20, 30, 40, 50, 60, etc years, and you still get people in relationships with people much older than they are.
bro what was 28 yr old even doing in a college party
@@babyshark833 you know college spans from 18-25 right
undergrduate= 2 years = 18-20
Graduates = 4 years so 18-22
Masters = 6-7 years = so 18-25
PHD programs or other = 25+
28 while higher on the age range is not completely rare and unnatural, if he were 35 or 40 then sure i would agree.
@@wdadwdwdwadw8604 bro phd people r almost always busy with their thesis or research they r practically working , so it IS weird if as an almost 30 yr old u keep hitting on undergrads knowing they r like 10 yrs younger than u
First of all, hook-ups are dangerous for many reasons beyond age of consent and disease. You could easily be dallying with a sibling.
WOAH…What world are you living in where this is a legit concern?! lol
I was with you on your first two points (hookups can lead to STIs and the potential for minors to be harmed), but you lost me on the third.
@KS04304
What world are you living in? Here in the USA, especially in the black community, there are men with upwards of 30 children by many different women. Although 4 to 6 children are common, much higher numbers are known. Also, sperm banks are known to be in close proximity of colleges and universities, especially in the early days of non-traditional ways to procreate. Those facilities had multiple donations from the same few donors. I remember watching a documentary around 2005 where 30 siblings were found living within 50 miles of each other. Their mothers used the same facility to get pregnant. There have been criminal cases of fertility doctors using their own sperm to impregnate patients. So, I recommend a DNA test before intimacy. This may seem outrageous and unnecessary. But, who wants to find out, as some have, that they are married with children to a sibling. It happens more often than you think.
bruh its not the 2 incriminating gross things u mentioned , but the incest that gets you ?
@@babyshark833
There are other issues, but the 3 aforementioned are most prominent in my mind.
@@GenXsinglefree Here in the USA racism is rampant, especially when it comes to those of African decent, and your comment is a perfect example of that.
Sperm banks are selective about who donates and donors need to go through various exams and procedures before being approved. The banks also limit how many children are conceived from one donor. The things you are describing are mostly fictions created for movies/TV, and the small kernel of truth that’s there happened in the 70s and 80s and have since been reformed. The doctors who used their own sperm are exceptions and not the standard. The lack of oversight that enabled doctors and facilities to act unethically has been rectified.
Things in documentaries are typically unusual or only selective to a small (or single) number of people - that’s why documentaries are made about them in the first place.
Don't doctors need parental consent if the child is under 18? Is every state different?
I can’t be the only one who is completely on the dude’s side? I’ve never seen the show, but he didn’t do anything wrong. From the comments, how was he supposed to know if they met in a club?
It's ER.
Totally understandable. She knew she was putting him at legal risk, she just didn't care. But the law being what it is her lying is not a legal defence. It's called "strict liability" there's basically no grey area or mitigating circumstance. You either did it or you didn't. If you did, it doesn't matter if you were acting "in good faith" and had every reason to think she was older. You're going to jail.
I haven't seen this show but confidentiality laws that keep parents in the dark exist to
A)encourage minors seek treatment by removing the fear of punishment
B)protect minors from potentially abusive parents
And that dad acted like the type to beat his daughter.
The parents have the right to know what’s happening with their minor child. There is no justification to keep the parents in the dark. None!
@Bluelu69 if you don't think protecting kids from potential abuse is justification...well shouldn't have kids and if you do cps need to get involved
@@ThePsyko420 no one can protect a child better than their parents. People keeping parents in the dark are enablers not protectors.
@Bluelu69 In a perfect world, I would agree with you. But the world ain't perfect and not everyone has good parents! Good parents have nothing to worry about here as their kids would be more upfront about it
Parents don't have the right for treatment consent to their kid. Right after they'd give them the responsibility for paying hospital bills.
On what planet are you even on? We literally require parent's consent to vaccinate the kids for Covid-19 a few years ago in all America. The parents hold no responsibility until the children is 18 years of age, that's the law! Hence, he has the right to know why is the daughter receiving medical treatment for. Doctors' job is to treat the patients, they are only allowed to hide the patient's infos if the patient's is an adult and does not want to let people know. She is a minor and he is her father.
True 💯 my friend( earlier roommate) suffered a lot because his parents kept interfering in his treatment asking for consent in every tests as if the doctors are trying to ruin his life.
They have the right to know what the child wants the parent to know, she is not a baby she has the right to privacy
Parents have every right. This line of thought comes from people who want to indoctrinate your kids.
Id rather leave it up to the teen to decide if telling the parent is good or not. Like first we have HIPAA in the US so no unless she signs a statement allowing it, parents got 0 "rights" to know. Secondly, i dunno if such information means a beating or other kind of abuse once theyre home. The kid knows far better than me what their parent might do. Im not gonna enable abuse cause of some self-righteous parental rights bs.
@Tiana_atr nope until he child is an adult in law they have no right to secrecy and certainly not confidentiality. If the parents are beating them then that's up to cps. But as long as they are under the adult age and living under their roof no confidentiality. That's how your kids get indoctrinated by these schools and institutions and make terrible decisions unchecked.
They don't want to indoctrinate kids, they want to make sure teens that have sex feel safe getting important medical tests for stds instead of walkin around without treating them cause they're afraid of their parents finding out. I swear you people would rather have a child that's sick if it satisfied your hardon for authority
Ah the old “People who honor HIPA laws are all pedos” argument 🙄 Grow up
@@Tiana_atrso your gonna enable pedophila out of the same self righteousness?
She’s a minor…yeah her parents have a right to know and approve treatment. Actions have consequences
Read the law. There are rules about doctor-patient confidentiality that apply, even for minors.
No, they don't. You parental rights people just want to be able to abuse your kids more
@@carultchwrong. 🤡🤣
@@carultch Legal =/= moral.
Totally agree. Parents have legal responsibility over their children until they become adults, and have a need to know.
doctors don't have rights over a minor without involving a parent unless life is threatened or death imminent if untreated!
I'd rather my kid sought proper medical treatment without my knowledge than do something to themselves in fear of me finding out something they don't want me to know.
@@24magiccarrotso you'd rather your kids just stayed doing stuff they never tell you? You do you boo. Like what the fuck they do that they cant tell me? Sounds more like you just cant be bothered?
@@24magiccarrotAnd pretending the issue is either one or the other, is exactly the kind of nonsense BS that is going on. Welcome to BS central, population, you.
Depending on the treatment and the state, you could be wrong. Multiple states have laws allowing minors to receive medical treatment without informing parents/guardians.
STD testing for minors does not need parental consent for 49 out of 50 states.
This Happened to me at 21 yrs old. Met her at an 18 and up club on vacation in Ocean city Maryland. She had just turned 15. She looked my age and acted like it and the friends that she was with were actually 18 and 19. She had a fake id with her photo. Keep in mind that I was making fake IDs at the time and even I couldn't spot that as a fake. We hooked up all week. Not only that but we continued to keep in touch for years and I saw her and spent the week with her the following year and then the following year after that. It wasn't until 3 months after the last time I saw her that she called me and told me the truth. I was shocked and incredibly angry. I spoke to her one more time after that and then blocked her she told me A few months after turning 18. I felt physically sick when she told me and it caused me to distrust a lot of females going forward.
Violate her privacy when she lied and caused him to commit a crime. What that female doctor did was a crime too.
Technically by not reporting a crime took place, but it's effy when it comes to after the fact.
Is that a young Max off Two Broke Girls?
Yes
@@sabrinazakrowski1399 Thank you. I was wondering where I had seen her from. God she looks so young here.. But you cant forget that smile!!
Show title?
What show is this please?
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What season and what episode please
I thought it looked formilure
God. All these people are so horrible. The nurse/doctor is fooling around with your kid and the hospital keeps it from you. Wow.
sickening because this is real life
Parents ABSOLUTELY have the right to know 💯
Agreed. It's crazy to keep such information from the very person who will be expected to foot the financial bills for everything. When she's old enough to literally pay for the consequences of her choices, then she can wave that patient confidentiality flag.
Parents do have the right to know about their children. If not open the door kick the kid(s) to the street and tell them to get a job. If a child wants to quit school and lay around the house and do nothing but play video games and just smoke weed or get into trouble, or even get girls pregnant with no job or money. No' not going to happen here. My hubby and I aren't going to support our children until they turn age 50 or whatever age. Children need to learn 3 things. Have an education. how to manage a bank account and to keep a job. My hubby and I have raised our 11 children. Not a one has failed with their education or with work their history. My hubby and I have been with each other 47 years now. So yea he and I both know with even our children know that if you want it. Work for it. The world owes them nothing. We as parents owe it to our children to raise them responsibly.
I wonder about the relationship you have with your children.
Exactly 💯%
Nothing you said is relevant to the clip though. The girl needed to get tested for stds. If those records hadnt been confidential theres a good chance she wouldve just not gotten tested and walked around with an untreated std.
@@kiera6326 parents like OP usually end up having great hard working kids because they understand accountability
@ maybe back in the 80’s when it was actually possible to support yourself immediately once you reached adulthood and we had a much more twisted concept of love. Nowadays they just have dead kids and homeless kids, and the ones who get lucky are on a therapist’s client list for an extended period of time.
It's scary for a young man in his late teens or early 20s when it comes to dating. I had a couple close calls with young girls pretending to be women. And it's so easy for a 15 or 16 year old girl to pass for a young adult. I'm glad I don't have to deal with that anymore.
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Children cannot consent point blank... And this doctor hiding this makes her a problem.
Actually, by law in the state of Illinois minors who are 12-17 are allowed consent in their health care. Other states have different age laws. In Ohio if you're 15 and can prove you're mature enough to make you health decisions, you can.
@@kaylapounds1359 They should also be require to pay for their own care. If the state want to take away the parents' right then the child is now the state problem.
@@DwynNWynns if your minor child wants to disown you, it says more about you as a parent then it does about the child.
I immediately knew that girl plays Max in 2 broke girls 😭
Congratulations, you recognized a face...
@@zydration3538 Not the face, the voice
@@ItzMeTheMochi oh okay. That changes everything.
@@zydration3538 😭
This sort of happened to a friend of mine. She met a guy in a bar, he had a beer in his hand when he introduced himself to her. Talked about his job, etc. They ended up going out & 6 months later, his mother shows up; turns out the guy was 15. My friend lost her cushy state job, lost her scholarships where she was finishing her degree, ended up in court and now has to register with the sex offender websites if she moves to a new place. It basically ruined her life. He LOOKED older. Full beard, 6'3", HAD A BEER IN HIS HAND, IN A BAR, & the job he talked about was construction. I thought he was an adult too. Its a fine line sometimes...
These laws NEED to be changed! Parents HAVE THE LEGAL AND PARENTAL RIGHTS to know what THEIR CHILDREN ARE BEING TREATED FOR!
This is why most Parents do not take their kids to the doctors!
Most parents do take their kid to the doctor actually lol. And if your kid goes to the hospital by themself, without you, and doesn’t want you to know about it, there’s a reason
If you want to know what your child discusses with the doctor, you need to cultivate a relationship with your child that will encourage them to willingly share these details with you, and be open-minded to talk about sensitive topics.
You don't have a right to find out against your child's will, what your child discussed with the doctor.
@@Beingahumanisntveryfuncuz they're doing something wrong likely
@@carultchyeah, and that's the issue. You should have that right
She literally thinks it’s fun what she did. A man’s entire life can be at risk.Lord have mercy.