How to Serve A Pickleball | Beginner's Guide
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- Опубліковано 19 тра 2024
- If you're not sure how to serve a pickleball, this video is for you! We'll go over how to hold a pickleball paddle, where to aim your shot, and more.
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Excellent video! Finally, someone explained the drop serve, feet placement, left arm drop, etc. Plus, using the core body turn to explode the ball forward. Nice!
Saved as a bookmark!
Fantastic! glad it helped
Addressed all my serving questions in a short amount of time. Great video, thank you.
Fantastic! Glad it helped!
I’m brand new to Pickleball and this was very helpful. Last week I struggled with serving. Today I put your drop serve instructions in action practicing my serve and I can see a huge difference already. Thank you!
Glad it was helpful!
I tried this technique today and it was like a miracle!!! Some of my serves were unreturnable. . Will continue to watch. Thanks so much for the tips!!!!!Sharing with my other players cause we all play with and against each other.
Let's go!! Thanks for sharing.
Your toss serve is illegal, watch it in slow mo upon contact the top of your paddle is even with or above your wrist. This is common with almost all former tennis players because it is taught that way what I call the tennis roll to create top spin. It comes naturally with almost all returns in tennis.
Solution change the rules to the drop serve exclusively.
Love how you explain clearly and concisely
I really appreciate the baseball pitcher analogy. As someone who played baseball for 27 years and is just recently getting seriously into pickleball, that example really clicked for me. I was a pitcher in college and for most of my playing career, and I've been trying a lot of different things to improve my serve, but I really think using similar mechanics to pitching may be what will be most comfortable for me. Thank you very much for the tips.
Thats fantastic!!
I'm subscribed to your channel. I recently retired and I need to exercise. I go in the morning to unused city racquetball court and for an hour I hit the pickleball against the wall to learn the nuance of the return; the timing, the bounce of the ball, the force required to effect the desired return...those basic elements. After 20 mins I'm sweating. I take a break; sip my ensure and get back to it. I Love it. This week I bought 2 extra canisters of balls so I can study my serve. This particular video was very helpful for my current learning level. Thanks.
That's fantastic!
This video is going to totally change the way I serve my serves! I'm very new to pickleball, and really need to focus on consistency. Your very clearly defined approach is exactly what I need. Thank you!
So glad it helped!
@Warren_L. - "serve my serves"...very redundant redundant
@@thatpickleballguy
I don't have any issue with the serve. Because I come from a tennis background. So I had no trouble with putting the spin and pace and
depth on the serves. But does anyone know what's up with these bats? I need to talk to a pro player because I snapped one of the bats
after just 6 hours of hitting the pickelball around with it.
By far the best video I've seen on serving!! Thank you!
Thank you! Glad it helped!
Newbie here and wonderful visual on how I should be doing my serve when not using the drop serve. Thank you.
Glad it helped!
Hey Kyle, great video. I try to help new beginners and I want to do it right so your videos help a great deal. I see an uncanny amount of the time when we are all playing that if the server calls the serve while serving they miss the serve a ton, as you said they just aren't completely focused on the serve. I would add into your video to teach the "routine" as you outline it but also add in to be sure to take a breath, say the score and only after that begin your serve service. thanks again!
Thanks for watching and helping grow the game!
Well done! Great lesson for intermediates. For beginners, there is a much simpler serve with less potential for error. Tennis is infiltrating all aspects of pickleball.
Thanks for watching!
@@thatpickleballguy I'm a real beginner because the bat I was given to hit with I had broke it after just only 6 hours of play when using
tennis drives with it The bat didn't last me long.
Great video. Appreciate you giving simple and easily rememberable cues
Glad it was helpful!
Short, sweet & helpful. Ty!
thanks for watching!
One of your Best video's to date! Subscribed! and a great sense of humor!
Awesome Ward! Thanks for the encouragement. Glad it helped.
This is really good...
almost EXACTLY how i coach serves to new players..
don't forget to have them "speed up" with their stroke... sometimes they get to busy tryin to "aim" and not have the ball go out....
I say forget that, SWING and HIT the ball and it'll go in....
Nice video, good work....
I like that! Good thoughts.
Great instructions! I do wish the drop serve section had video on what it looked like altogether to visualize the concept more. Maybe just one slowmo in the middle to recap what we’re going for. Thanks for uploading!
Ahh shoot. that's a good point. sorry about that. Will make note for the next time I do a video on serving!
Excellent video! Your instructions were to the point, easy to understand, and presented a nice and clean method for consistency. Best wishes for your continued success here on UA-cam as well as the Pickleball Court!
Hey Frank, thanks for watching! And glad it helped!
Great form and swing
Great tips Kyle, Pickle Ball here I come! There IS life after Tennis! Thanks! 67 and NOT done quite yet.
You got this!
The best thing I learned was at the end: the pre-serve routine. Loved it!
Awesome!!
Great timing on this video because I hit all my serves out this past week 🙃🙃
Lets go!! Time to get right.
I watched this video last night since I needed help with my serve. I played today and used the tips from the video! I was very pleased with my serve! Loved the video! Thanks so much!
Amazing! So glad it helped!
Dude, your an awesome instructor. Your fluid and easy to listen to. I'm a beginner. I'm getting so much down. But, it's not overwhelming. Go pro. And I don't mean a head camera.
Thanks for the compliments! Glad to help!
Thank you Kyle! I love your videos!
Thanks for watching!
Great video. Very clear and very entertaining! Thank you.
Glad it was helpful!
Thanks, great video!
Thank you!
You're a great coach! Other than subscribing to your channel and liking your videos, i won't be able to reward you for sharing your knowledge. I wish you all the best in everything you pursue.
Thank you!
Please, please more emphasis on keeping the head, thusly the eyes down as if they were hitting four balls in secession. For you it is second nature, for beginners probably not.
Love all your videos, Kyle. You’re my fave. Thanks for making us all better players + keeping it fun.
Oo
Wow! Thanks
For watching. Glad its helpful :)
U are THAT PICKLEBALL GUY!!! Keep it up man really appreciate it!! Always watching ur journey! Just waiting for that gold against Ben johns
Coming :)
Fantastic video! New player here, and this is very helpful
Glad it was helpful!
Best intro basic striking skill on YT!
Wow, thanks!
Being consistent
The pre-serve routine is huge. It has tremendously helped my consistency. I see so many people rushing their serves, and they often make mistakes. Slow it down, have a routine, and stick with it for better consistency. Great video!
Absolutely!
When I taught serving (volleyball and tennis and pickleball) I always told people to create a routine, a boring ritual that was almost identical from time to time.
I drop the drop serve from knee level. It forces me to bend my knees and WATCH THAT BALL and definitely not hesitate.
Thanks. He didn’t mention this. But make sure your wrist stays neutral, otherwise the ball may go out of bounds and you will develop shoulder problems.
If you can believe it I'm a legit 4.5 with a raquetball (not tennis background). My serve isn't as good as most 3.0 players (i've got major yips). Between this video and your third shot drop training video (Low, Loose, Lift and paddle out front) I firmly believe I can get to the next level. I cannot stress how appreciative of you and your videos that I am. Your teaching delivery is wonderful, just wonderful.
Glad they are helpful! You got this!
Hey Kyle - Great tips provided to help a beginner build correct mental as well as muscle memory! To help, I didn't see you mention 3 main points of the volley serve - the upward swing; point of contact below the waist aka belly button; top of paddle below the wrist at point of contact. At least until the next changes arrive. Keep up the good teachings!
Thanks for watching!
The reference to the navel was removed from pickleball rules several years ago. They changed it to "waist" but don't clearly define that term.
Of the three, that is the one I have never heard a referee call for a fault.
If you comply with the other two requirements, upward motion and no part of the paddle head (face) above your wrist (when the paddle contacts the ball), hitting the ball a few inches higher than your waist doesn't give you any advantage.
This was a gem!
Thanks for watching!
Thanks these are great advice for beginners!
Thanks! Glad it helped!
Hey ! Just a follow up with you!
I did applied some of the techniques and ideas last couple weeks.
It’s simple a big difference.
I had improved my our skills.,
and l shared it with a few friends and they are impressed with these advice and glad to use them in their games .
Thanks again!
I am still following you !!
Take care of enjoy your game !
THIS VIDEO IS AWESOME!
Glad it helped DaviD
Watch old videos of Sharapova before she served. It was always "tuck, tuck, bounce, bounce", where she would tuck her hair behind one ear and then the other, and then do two deliberate bounces. Or watch college softball pitchers. Almost all of them have a routine down pat prior to a pitch! Routines are such a great way of getting into that right headspace :)
Agreed!
ah yes, the opening is very important on the path to improvement 😉
Touche. Couldn't agree more!
Crazy enough, I have a video I'm about film called,
5 easy to play chess on a pickleball court!
There is mention of magnus carlsen and gary kasparov in it :)
Good Stuff, Kyle! :)
Thank you!
We need you to break 100K followers!!
Hi Kyle, I’ve seen your serve tutorial multiple times, went out to practice at the court. I still do poorly. I can do the even court drop serve. The odd court, I’m too short. The only way I can only drop serve and two handed back hand. Your thoughts?
Love your videos and i always share. The volley serve instructions however i totally disagree with unless the newbie comes from a tennis background able to do a successful tennis serve.
The newbie player without skill will struggle getting the serve in if I taught them your feet positioning. I teach learn to play and the majority would not have the mental ability to do the body rotation before hitting the ball.
Excellent video for those moving to the next level of improving your serve but not learning how to serve for those new to pickleball.
Good thoughts here :)
Thanks for sharing!
I am a newbie do you have videos out there learning a lot from you
Check out these videos
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great vid
Thanks!
Hi Kyle, I was under the impression that you could not toss the ball up, but you clearly did on the toss serve. Is there a rule on that or is it just that until your video, I had never actually seen anyone do that in practice. Thanks!
You can toss the ball up :)
@@thatpickleballguyall the rules I’ve read say that the ball cannot be tossed up
@@philippeacock4729 You cannot toss the ball up or throw it down with a "drop" serve. You can only open your hand and drop it. The reason is, that up or down motion would cause the ball to bounce higher (possibly above your waist) and give you a big advantage since the 3 volley serve rules do not apply.
With a volley serve, you can toss the ball up but the 3 volley serve rules apply. You can toss the ball 20 feet in the air if you wish but you can't hit it until the ball drops at or below your waist.
Do you squat down only with the drop serve?
Should I be practicing switching hands or practice by backhand? Thanks - subscribed!
Definitely practice your backhand. Switching hands isn't bad. Some do it. But in my opinion, takes much longer to get good at than working at your backhand.
@@thatpickleballguy You are the GOAT! Thanks Kyle. Your videos instantly made me a better player.
Me and my co-worker beat a team 11-0 last week and beat a team 4x in a series today. Can you believe he finally called me out on my bad or weak serving on this day 😂 I'm like the best kitchen line player in the group as they say. So I told him man I can't be perfect all around, we all have a weakness😅
Love it! Great job, keep killing it!
Thanks for the serving tips! I'm guilty of rushing my serves and not focusing and either hitting it out or in the net. You didn't talk about your eye contact. Do you pick a spot in the court and then watch the ball as you make contact? Sometimes I find myself not watching the ball as well
Definitely keep an eye on that ball & point the paddle in the direction where you want the ball to go. That's what I was taught. My serves are very consistent. Not powerful, but consistent.
Correct me if I'm wrong since I've only played a few days and my own equipment is on the way as we speak, but isn't there room for a drop serve where you squat down A LOT and then explode upwards with your legs when hitting the ball, providing greater theoretical top-spin?
Yes you can do that!
Great video, my serve has been horrendous and makes pickleball no fun, do you change anything when serving from the other side?
I try to use similar technique on both sides. Try to go out one day and hit about 100 serves in a row to get more reps!
Great session. can i have that website again for serve lessons
Hey there, I don't do serve lessons at the time!
The serve is my biggest challenge. I have gone to a backhand serve as its the only one I can consistently get in. Its not a bad serve but im hoping a routine can help me perfect a forehand serve with power. (The forehand is IN MY HEAD) like a pitcher who can't throw a strike. :/
Keep practicing and working on the forehand serve! You will get it!
Excellent video, as always! Question: Is there any *objective* advantage to using the volley (toss) serve vs. the drop serve? It seems like the swing path and strike point are almost exactly the same between the two. I've been playing almost a year now and when I first started, I couldn't get the hang of the volley serve so I learned to drop. I can serve with pace and placement and even mix things up between topspin and slice. Yet most of the people I play who are at my level or better do NOT use the drop. I just wonder if I'm missing something if I want to get to 4.5 or 5.0 and beyond?
I have had a lot of success with a drop forehand SLICE serve. I use this shot a lot in tennis, so I have the feel of it. If the wind is behind me, the opponent is in trouble if it goes deep, and if the wind is in my face, he's in trouble if my serve is short! I mix in 3 or 4 other serves, sidespin, a combination of slice and side, and topspin. They all help. It's like pitching
It's a valid question. In my opinion, you can be dangerous with both. I'd experiment more for yourself with the volley (toss) serve and see. I feel like I can generate a bit more whip and topspin by not using the drop serve. But remember, if you're hitting it consistently with depth each time, doesn't matter which type you're using. That's the principle that creates the most success!
Hi Kyle. I am a 70-year-old woman and I just took my first pickleball clinic. I really like it! Our instructor sent us some videos to watch including this one. This is my problem. I am blind in my right eye so my depth perception is bad. I played a few practice games with some friends and chase the ball more than I hit it. I was wondering if you had any tips for me to overcome this disability. I really enjoy the game. Thank you in advance.❤
Hi there! Hope this video helped!
The truth is, more reps will be your best friend right now! I think everyone chases the ball more than they hit it with they first start playing :)
You're doing fine. Keep at it!!
@@thatpickleballguy thank you. Love your videos!
Great video!
Thanks!
On the toss serve, do I need to toss it up? I have been just dropping it down onto my paddle, not a drop serve where I let it bounce. Thank you!
It is all personal preference! Some toss it slightly, others don't. I recommend testing it out to see what works best for you!
@@thatpickleballguythis is why I'm watching this video! I pretty much release the ball and contact it with the paddle almost simultaneously - no toss. spent an hour trying to fix this habit today and hit a 'proper ' volley serve. it didn't go well so not sure what to do next! to toss or not to toss!
@@JasonKibbe Kyle's serve is very similar to mine. The slight toss helps with my timing. The ball barely goes up, stops then I hit it in the exact same place every time.
Can you talk about spin shots and other forms of trick shots?
Yes! Will do a video in the future
Kyle quick question about serve rules section 4 in the rule book. I know your feet can't touch the line or one foot can hover over the court. At what point can a foot or feet cross the line and touch the court? Is it when the ball leaves the paddle or crosses the net, or something different? Thanks Rick D.
After the ball has been struck!
When serving can you step in to the court as if walking then hit the ball?
Your foot can hover over the court but your foot can not touch in the court until after you have served!
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Is it good to mix up serves to confuse the player returning the ball ? Like a baseball pitcher mixing pitches? A hard serve, soft serve (underhand lob) etc? Mixing up a serve from hard to soft to spin? Effective?
Yes switching up the serve, just like switching up between dinks and lobs, will keep you less predictable!
My primary serve is a fast topspin, close to the baseline, especially if they are standing too close.
It's funny to watch what happens when I change the pace and serve a high, slow lob. More often than not, they hit it out. The change in pace throws off their timing I guess.
I'm having trouble visualizing what I should physically be doing differently in the two different methods of generating power (weight shift vs weight shift+core twist). If I watch your demonstration of both methods (6:56 vs 7:43), visually it looks like you're doing the exact same thing both times?
Yes, they aren't different methods. They work together to generate power.
Sorry if I made that a little bit confusing!
I have played 5 years. Old tennis player. My serve always has been my strong point. All of a sudden, the yips showed up. I am trying to get back to basics... but why does it happen? And how to get it back. Thank you!
Oo yeah good question. I've had that happen too. After you miss some, peopl tend to question their ability in their shot.
One of the quickest ways to get it back is to.
1. go out and drill your serve. Hit about 100 and think about your technique as you do it.
2. Take some pace off it and focus on consistency.
See how that works!
@@thatpickleballguy thank you much...!
So which serve style should a person concentrate on? Drop or toss?
It's all personal preference! I suggest testing both to see which one you like better and are more consistent at!
Just to be complete, the server also has to be between the centerline and sideline.
Yes good call!
I don't stand still and serve. I begin every serve by calling the score and then advance toward the baseline in one fluid motion, rotating my torso as my paddle contacts the ball.
My opponent was a pickleball coach recently and he said one of my serves was not legal because I called the score with one foot outside the extended centerline then advanced toward the baseline (well within the extended sideline and centerline and behind the baseline) and hit the ball.
The rule states:
4A.4… The moment the ball is served…4A4c neither of the server’s feet may touch the playing surface outside the imaginary extension of the sideline or centerline.
In my opinion, "The moment the ball is served" is the same thing as saying "The moment the paddle contacts the ball"
I asked another coach who agreed with my interpretation of the serving rules.
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what about body being outside the extended sideline ?
You gotta be inside!
Just wondering. I let go of the ball while hand facing down and strike the ball almost immediately. I do not release the ball with any spin.
Yep that's good!
One year player with limited mobility. I play in a local league of 3.0 - 3.5. I served very hard for four points to win a game. I overheard our opponent say, "Winning points on serves is not the way to win points, play the game." Is serving hard a breach of etiquette? I want to continue playing in this space. I ask for Kyle and community advice. Thanks, JM
It could vary from person to person! Some might view it as breach of etiquette while others don't, but at the end of the day everyone plays different so everyone has to be ready to play against different styles!
Our local club has some disagreement about tossing the ball up on a volley serve. While some agree with you that because 4.A.7 does not address the toss serve that it is legal. Others contend that 4.A.5 prohibits "MANIPULATING" the ball on ANY serve and that a "toss" is a form of manipulation.
Thats fair. But the truth is, in my opinion it doesnt really matter that much. The manipulation rule was put into place to prevent spin serves that kick hard when they hit the ground.
We asked USA Pickleball about this seeming discrepancy and here is their reply I just received:
It seems like those same folks may be overlooking the rule language that says some natural rotation is expected when releasing that ball. Here is the rule itself:
"4.A.5. The serve shall be made with only one hand releasing the ball. While some natural rotation of the ball is expected during any release of the ball from the hand, the server shall not impart manipulation or spin on the ball with any part of the body immediately prior to the serve."
You can certainly toss the ball up on the volley serve, as long as unnatural spin is not imparted during the toss. That is certainly a judgement call for the referees or the opponents if a non-officiated match. But, if the opponent thinks there was some added manipulation, beyond that that which occurs naturally, then it's a replay.
Mark Peifer | Managing Director of Officiating, USA Pickleball
Chairman, USA Pickleball Rules Committee
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"4.A.5. ........ While some natural rotation of the ball is expected during any release of the ball from the hand, the server shall not impart manipulation or spin on the ball with any part of the body immediately prior to the serve."
It would cause less confusion if they would change the wording from "the server shall not impart manipulation or spin on the ball with any part of the body" to "the server shall not impart spin on the ball"
Other than a spin, what "manipulation" are they referring to???
Also, the rule clearly states only one hand can release the ball so what other parts of the body are they talking about???
I will put this video to task. My serves are too returnable.
I am left handed. Where should I position myself? You stand closer to the middle line. Would I stand closer to the side line?
Standing in the middle while serving in doubles is pretty standard. If you're playing singles, i suggest standing closer to the center so you're ready for their return to be hit either way!
when you do the stop action model of hour serve, it looks as though the top of the paddle is above your wrist. Is that serve rally 97mph? that's hard to believe.....
Serve was not 97 MPH, that was just a joke :)
@@thatpickleballguy top speed is usually 40 mph, according to online sources.....I didn't realize you were joking.
Where are the videos you said you'd send? Thanks.....I need a coach in SC. I'm an athlete, but it's been a while.
Hey there, did you sign up with your email to get the series?
@@thatpickleballguy I believe so, same name Gmail. THANKS
Explain, please, where we should stand behind the line. Close to the middle line, two feet from the line, etc. It's not clear to me what advantage we can gain by how close or far away from the center line we are.
My mom always tells me to slow down! I still need to work on that :) Thanks for the kind words!
OK… I'm confused. I am not been playing very long, and most of my play has been singles play with friends and family. One of the only things I could really practice at home is a serve, so my serve is certainly a bit stronger than the rest of my game. I finally went to my first open play last week, and the court elder pointed out that I was doing a slight tossup of the ball before doing my Volley serve. And I'm talking a very slight amount… Almost unavoidable IMO. They completely messed me up and I was in my head for the last week. Even now it's impacting my mental game before serve. Doing a straight drop out of the hand in my serve has just kind of change the cadence and timing… Then I notice on your volley serve you do the exact same small toss that I was doing. Is this legal?
So sorry that happened. The good news is, They're wrong. You're good to give the ball a little toss.
But remember the rest of the serving rules. EX: Must hit the ball below your waist, paddle must be below your wrist. I think this is correct as I am a beginner. GOD, Guns & Gumbo
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Hi Kyle, so I was told that it wasn't legal to toss the ball in the air, at all, when doing a toss serve, that it could only be dropped. Correct or no plz?
Incorrect
Same here, I was told according to the new rules you can't toss the ball up anymore.
Yea, I just started and there seem to be conflicting messages out there
@@AlbertoOnWheels You can't toss the ball up or down with a Drop serve.
You can with a Volley (Kyle calls it a Toss) serve.
What about serving from the left side of the court (if you're lucky enough to win a point, lol) , what adjustments would you make to foot position, body facing etc.? Thanks very much.
The generals principles are the same.
On the left side, I may try closing my stance a bit more. AKA tilting more to your right (as a righty).
Do this if you find yourself missing. However, again, the general principles are the same and I wouldn't change a ton!
I hold it western
How is this different from padel tennis? What are the main differences?
no walls to hit off of. and I actually don't know all the rules of padel. A lot of similarities though.
@@thatpickleballguy Cool. Thanks. I'd like to try pickleball.
@@svetcovladich9996 Be careful. It's addictive!
I almost always keep the ball in my hand until almost the moment of impact, kinda like a ping pong serve. Is that legal?
Yep!
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Can one of your feet land inside the court when you serve?
After you make contact with the ball yes.
Serve routine like Rafael Nadal 😂
Does the toss serve have to go up first? Or can you just drop it? Without a bounce
No, dropping it is fine!
Do not be so lazy, read the rules.
@@robinrobine8100 Nope! It's fine. I don't mind answering questions and they're okay asking :)
@@robinrobine8100 In my experience, the vast majority of pickleball players are very welcoming to new players. You're obviously not one of them but to each their own.
Another power move is arm acceleration...
Hmmm. Was surprised when you Said to have the racket parallel to your back foot in the beginning, and have it end in the direction you want the ball to go. Because I have my racket faced more toward the back fence in the beginning, and more wrapped around my shoulder to end with. Well, in looking slowly at how you actually Do it, so do you. Just sayin'.
Good eye! Doing my best on the explanation for a very beginner level. :)
One of the most important elements, despite anything you said, is an air target that is consistently about 2 feet above the net. Power is silly. Every adult player can hit a plastic ball farther than 44 feet with zero technique.
I don't think you've seen real power yet or you wouldn't say that.
@CWK090 every 4.5 and above level tennis player can hit a plastic ball as hard and fast as elite pb players. The difference is the ability to control to tiny targets. That's the giant delta between trained and untrained players in Pickleball.
The ability to control the ball to tiny targets is an important skill in any sport with a ball. Hitting the ball hard means nothing if you can’t control it. One of the most important elements of pickleball is to avoid giving your opponents an attackable ball.
Your aim point, 2 feet above the net, won't end well.
Can the ball hit the net on a serve?
No. If the serve hits the net you will re serve.
@@thatpickleballguy Kyle,
Your answer is true for tournaments at your level.
In Rec play, if the serve hits the net and lands beyond the NVZ and NVZ line, it's good.
"4.A.2. Placement. The server must serve to the correct service court (the court diagonally opposite the server). The serve may clear or touch the net and must clear the NVZ and the NVZ lines. The serve may land on any other service court line."
I found this video searching for a friend new to pickleball.
Love your videos!
@@CWK090 you're right! This rule changed after I made the video!
97mph lol, nice
Finally someone caught that :)
There’s no tossing serve
I thought rule 4.A.8.b doesn't allow toss up or throw down on serve.
You can throw it if you're doing a "volley serve" (not bounce serve)
@FireBreathing RubberDucky you cannot toss the ball. Look in the rules. There is a volley serve and a drop serve, PERIOD!
@@kwalden801 wow, all caps. Let's dig into the rule book. As Dave said, 4.A.8.b does not allow for toss up or down. But that's a sub-bullet for 4.A.8 (drop serve - with a bounce). But a separate section, 4.A.7 regulates "volley serve" (which ThatPickleBallGuy calls a "toss serve") when the ball doesn't bounce before it is struck. There is no sub-bullet within 4.A.7 that prohibits the tossing the ball up or throwing it down.
@@kwalden801 Hey Kathleen, I just re-read the rules to make sure. You can toss it. You just have to follow the other rules of hitting below the waist, and contact below the wrist, etc. :)
@@firebreathingrubberducky5621 Thank you! hahahahah
I’ve read that contacting the ball “below the waist” means below the person’s navel, not where their shorts/pants are worn.
yeah the rule used to say waist, now it says navel.
Yeah i wouldnt get too caught up. Refs almost never call
This bc its so hard to tell during gameplay.
@@billinhouston3291 you have that backwards