Whenever I'm riding, I always carry a giant bottle of isopropyl alcohol and a large cotton rag. This ensures I follow the correct procedure on the side of the road if I flat.
Good point. How do I get rid of the sealant in the middle of a 150km ride? Is the sealant eco friendly? Can I dispose the sealant under the next bush or tree? And how good does the wheel work work with an inner tube? Is safety, rolling resistance handling, comfort etc. compromised? It is hard to find any information on these points. Could Giant please give a comprehensive answer to our questions?
Love how easy these tires slid off and on in the video. Doing it in real life for me at least was was no where near this simple. Even with the Gavia's pushed to thee middle of the rim, getting them off was a real pain. I ruined 2 tubes trying to get the tires back on. Dumped the stock tires for Conti 5000's and added tubes.Now when I have a roadside flat I know I can fix it. Also agree with other viewers about finishing away from the valve.
Last February I bought the Giant Defy Advanced Pro 1, which came with tubeless tires. After 2,500 km I couldn't be happier. Never got a puncture, and during rainy days I could ride with less air in to help with the road grip. Excellent grip at all times. I am definitely not going back with the inner tubes ever again. Also I can not speak more highly for the quality of Gavia tires. If not the best, one of the best tires out there.
Alexandros Shiamaris: I feel (now) as you do but, if I should ever actually get a flat while riding a tubeless tire I may soon change my mind as it appears to me to be quite messy and possibly affect one's braking (assuming I don't have isopropyl alcohol on me).
It's incorrect that you're replacing the inner tubed tyre starting opposite the valve & then using a tyre lever...it's no wonder you're saying that you can puncture the tube with the tyre lever. ALWAYS start at the valve making sure the inner tube is fully in the tyre casing & the tyre beading seated well without any showing of the inner tube at either side. If done correctly & the way I suggest you will not even require a tyre lever to finish off the fitting of the tyre/tube aa the force from your hands/palms will be enough. Disappointing by Giant in my professional experience & opinion.
I had even at home problems to get the tires off of the rim, as everything was very sticky due to the sealant. So doing this on the road, after a flat seems to be really difficult.
I just purchased a Giant Bike, first road bike actually, that came with tubeless SLR1 wheels. I've been watching a plethora of videos today in trying to decide between sticking with the stock wheels or going Dura Ace, C24 or C40, clinchers. Bike is still sitting at the shop, so I have the option to go either or. I think this video helped me make my final decision. Why ride tubeless if you have to stick a tube in to temporarily fix the problem to get home? Seems it would be better off to stick with the 'easier' clincher solution to begin with. Plus, who is going to carry sealant cleaner solution on them while riding? At 1:01 you say to "Dispose of the tubeless sealant carefully. If it gets on a braking surface, like the rim or disc rotor, wipe it away immediately!" Which begs the question, how do I dispose of this solution carefully if I get a flat in a random location. Doesn't sound too reassuring to have that stuff in there in the first place sloshing around and perhaps interacting with those surfaces if it is such a concern.
Love tubeless! Had four years reliable riding, had to swap in a tube on two occasions. one query, our valve have a curved plastic washer which sits below the rubber O-ring and knurled nut, which you don't show
Hi, i am finding extermely hard to add a tube to My Giant Revolt 1 with CROSSCUT GRAVEL 2 TUBELESS TYRE. When trying to put the tire back it just wont fit the rim no matter what i do. Is there any tip on how to get the tire and a tube back on the wheel?
Ive just started tubeless. I thought the idea was you get a lot less punctures and in the rare case you get one you plug it. In the even rarer case of needing a tube, well just call for a lift from a friend? How often are people putting tubes in tubeless tyres if its so bad they cant be plugged?
I understand using a piece of cloth to rub the inside of the tire checking for the debris causing a puncture, but a bare finger tip can feel a subtle goats head or other small thorn that a cloth may not catch on.
Here because, obviously, I've had a puncture and need to know if there's anything special I have to do to put a tube in a tubeless tire. I got the smallest little 'v' shaped puncture in my rear tire, pumped it up to 115psi, heard the air leaking out, didn't self-seal until down around 70psi. Kind of disappointed at that. Try to patch, pressure blew the patch open. Probably will stick with keeping tubes in my tubeless tire so I don't have to replace the tire, which is almost brand new.
Hello, little question: is it okay to keep a innertube in a tubeless tire for a long time or will it be more susceptible to a flat? I’ve seen reviews online saying its completely fine and others saying that it has a bigger chance to flat the innetube… When I saw your comment, I thought you could help me since you said that you will be using tubes in tubeless tires. How did it went? Thanks!
@@chikoof still going strong, hasn't been an issue, hasn't gone flat. I'm sure of it punctures I'll need to replace the tube, but I've had no problems with the tube in the tubeless tire.
I've just finished 3 weeks touring France with this tyre and wheel setup. I'm 75kg and had 5-6kg weight in an Apidura saddlebag. After 2000 miles, the rear couldn't hold above 50psi and I would feel some bumps in the road. When I finally gave in and put a tube in, there was no sealant at all to come out when taking off the tyre. The rim tape was lubed; that's it. I cleaned the rim & tyre, but it just would not sit on the rim, with the tube now in. No matter what I tried. I was worried the rim may be damaged, but take it, it's just the bead. It was very uncomfortable to ride for a day or so, but then I got to use a track pump and pumped to 120psi to try and force it to seat. It rode into being a lot better, but not perfect. Are there any more tips for seating when you can't replace the tyre immediately. In hindsight, I'd prefer a tougher rear tyre, or carry a spare with me. The thread was showing come the end, but I managed to get it back to England without any punctures. I had a spare but used Schwalbe Pro One tubeless which also wouldn't sit. Now I really feared it was the rim! But a new Michelin Krylion Carbon and tube combo did the trick and will remain until I research a good tubeless tyre with longevity. Despite the episode I'm a big fan of tubeless.
Just bought a gravel bike with 700c tires, 40mm wide. I can't seem to find a 700c 40mm tube to carry for emergencies. Is the sizing different for tubes than for tires?
@@DavidLizWalshe Sorry, I don't remember. I found something that was supposed to fit and I carried it around for a long time. But the thing is, I run tubeless tires. I have had several punctures, as evidenced by sealant spraying out and then stopping with no further action needed. I never needed the tire, so I pulled it out of my tool bag and put it . . . somewhere. I haven't seen it in ages. There were two instances where I had to take action. One was my original Bontrager tire that came on the bike developed an egg and I could feeling it bumping with every revolution of the tire. I pushed it back in, and it took me all the way home without popping out again. Then I replaced the tire. The second was a hole too big for the sealant, so I pulled out my trusty little plug kit and plugged it. It took around two minutes to fix it and I have been running on that tire for several months without any problems.
at 4:52 you can see that the safety line isn's seated properly and disappears under the rim (just under the 2 of "125"), unfortunately not even Giant can seem to seat this tyre combination properly. I write this have just spent an hour trying to seat my own ones.
I'm Looking for the right size for my Giant bikecycle innertube but I couldn't find the right Sizes,I wonder could anyone on here can give Me a clue of Right kind the size for this Bikecycle innertube..The Innertube is small..
You dont need them. Just put the tube inside the tire like a normal tubular so you can get back to wherever. I've done it a few times and never needed the other shit they have in this video
@@meatsisbackonthemenu4631 If this thing is puncturing so often to the extent that you need to fit an inner tube, why not just leave the inner tube in there and forget all this messy sealant?
@@slappop7082 I do not use any tubeless tyres yet, but I consider buying a Giant TCR with tubeless&hookless rims. As far as I imagine with tubeless wheels it will be less likely to have punctures. But there will eventually come the situation where you will need to put in an inner tube to get home. As I do not have any experience I cannot say if advantages or disadvantages predominate...
@@mrs3lfd3s7ruc7 You are right. Sealant in tubeless should fix any small puncture. Carrying a inner tube is really for those cases where the puncture is too large for the sealant to fix. Tubeless + inner tube as emergency measure = you are very well covered in case of any puncture. Why not leave the inner tube in the tyre? Well, one incident could leave you with BOTH tyre and inner tube punctured, which leaves you in a worse predicament. Also, you are suspectible to pinch flats, which is something not possible with tubeless-only setup. Finally, there could also be performance penalty with the inner tube.
@@slappop7082 Tubeless tires don’t puncture often. If you don’t pay attention and ride through broken glass or road aprons coated with black cinder (volcanic obsidian - it cuts like glass) then almost any tire system will risk being punctured.
Asked for tubed when I ordered my Giant road bike. Showed up with the slr tubeless. Sort of got stuck with them because of availability. Not happy with them from day one. Asked if shop would take them on partial trade for regular tubed wheels. Told no. Also ordered it with the shimano crank set. Came with praxis. Should have told them to keep the bike, but was without after crash. Not a fan of giant. Ordering a Spec Tarmac.
Tubeless is just a bad idea for road riding. Simpler is almost always better. Before I bought my Giant Advanced I could carry a pump and a couple tubes and feel confident that I was prepared. Now a flat might mean having to call for a ride or a long walk home. Just stupid!
Whenever I'm riding, I always carry a giant bottle of isopropyl alcohol and a large cotton rag. This ensures I follow the correct procedure on the side of the road if I flat.
...and the rim tape. And, remember, if there are any wobbles in the tire, DO NOT ride your bike - carry it home on your shoulder. :)
Good point. How do I get rid of the sealant in the middle of a 150km ride? Is the sealant eco friendly? Can I dispose the sealant under the next bush or tree?
And how good does the wheel work work with an inner tube? Is safety, rolling resistance handling, comfort etc. compromised?
It is hard to find any information on these points. Could Giant please give a comprehensive answer to our questions?
Ensure once you've completed the repair you have it checked by an authorised Giant retailer ...... obvs
@@gilesyLFC Better have them on speed dial..
Love how easy these tires slid off and on in the video. Doing it in real life for me at least was was no where near this simple. Even with the Gavia's pushed to thee middle of the rim, getting them off was a real pain. I ruined 2 tubes trying to get the tires back on. Dumped the stock tires for Conti 5000's and added tubes.Now when I have a roadside flat I know I can fix it. Also agree with other viewers about finishing away from the valve.
Last February I bought the Giant Defy Advanced Pro 1, which came with tubeless tires. After 2,500 km I couldn't be happier. Never got a puncture, and during rainy days I could ride with less air in to help with the road grip. Excellent grip at all times. I am definitely not going back with the inner tubes ever again. Also I can not speak more highly for the quality of Gavia tires. If not the best, one of the best tires out there.
Alexandros Shiamaris: I feel (now) as you do but, if I should ever actually get a flat while riding a tubeless tire I may soon change my mind as it appears to me to be quite messy and possibly affect one's braking (assuming I don't have isopropyl alcohol on me).
It's incorrect that you're replacing the inner tubed tyre starting opposite the valve & then using a tyre lever...it's no wonder you're saying that you can puncture the tube with the tyre lever.
ALWAYS start at the valve making sure the inner tube is fully in the tyre casing & the tyre beading seated well without any showing of the inner tube at either side.
If done correctly & the way I suggest you will not even require a tyre lever to finish off the fitting of the tyre/tube aa the force from your hands/palms will be enough.
Disappointing by Giant in my professional experience & opinion.
I had even at home problems to get the tires off of the rim, as everything was very sticky due to the sealant. So doing this on the road, after a flat seems to be really difficult.
So are they worth the risk ?
I just purchased a Giant Bike, first road bike actually, that came with tubeless SLR1 wheels. I've been watching a plethora of videos today in trying to decide between sticking with the stock wheels or going Dura Ace, C24 or C40, clinchers. Bike is still sitting at the shop, so I have the option to go either or. I think this video helped me make my final decision. Why ride tubeless if you have to stick a tube in to temporarily fix the problem to get home? Seems it would be better off to stick with the 'easier' clincher solution to begin with. Plus, who is going to carry sealant cleaner solution on them while riding?
At 1:01 you say to "Dispose of the tubeless sealant carefully. If it gets on a braking surface, like the rim or disc rotor, wipe it away immediately!" Which begs the question, how do I dispose of this solution carefully if I get a flat in a random location. Doesn't sound too reassuring to have that stuff in there in the first place sloshing around and perhaps interacting with those surfaces if it is such a concern.
In my experience its harder to put the tire on near the valve. I'd do the opposite.
This one is actually accurate, thank you.
Love tubeless! Had four years reliable riding, had to swap in a tube on two occasions. one query, our valve have a curved plastic washer which sits below the rubber O-ring and knurled nut, which you don't show
Tubeless road is utter lunacy😂
Hi, i am finding extermely hard to add a tube to My Giant Revolt 1 with CROSSCUT GRAVEL 2 TUBELESS TYRE. When trying to put the tire back it just wont fit the rim no matter what i do. Is there any tip on how to get the tire and a tube back on the wheel?
Ive just started tubeless.
I thought the idea was you get a lot less punctures and in the rare case you get one you plug it.
In the even rarer case of needing a tube, well just call for a lift from a friend?
How often are people putting tubes in tubeless tyres if its so bad they cant be plugged?
I understand using a piece of cloth to rub the inside of the tire checking for the debris causing a puncture, but a bare finger tip can feel a subtle goats head or other small thorn that a cloth may not catch on.
That can also be a way to puncture your skin.
Here because, obviously, I've had a puncture and need to know if there's anything special I have to do to put a tube in a tubeless tire. I got the smallest little 'v' shaped puncture in my rear tire, pumped it up to 115psi, heard the air leaking out, didn't self-seal until down around 70psi. Kind of disappointed at that. Try to patch, pressure blew the patch open. Probably will stick with keeping tubes in my tubeless tire so I don't have to replace the tire, which is almost brand new.
Hello, little question: is it okay to keep a innertube in a tubeless tire for a long time or will it be more susceptible to a flat? I’ve seen reviews online saying its completely fine and others saying that it has a bigger chance to flat the innetube… When I saw your comment, I thought you could help me since you said that you will be using tubes in tubeless tires. How did it went? Thanks!
@@chikoof still going strong, hasn't been an issue, hasn't gone flat. I'm sure of it punctures I'll need to replace the tube, but I've had no problems with the tube in the tubeless tire.
@@buddytheweasel alright, thank you so much, you’re helping a lot!
I've just finished 3 weeks touring France with this tyre and wheel setup. I'm 75kg and had 5-6kg weight in an Apidura saddlebag. After 2000 miles, the rear couldn't hold above 50psi and I would feel some bumps in the road. When I finally gave in and put a tube in, there was no sealant at all to come out when taking off the tyre. The rim tape was lubed; that's it. I cleaned the rim & tyre, but it just would not sit on the rim, with the tube now in. No matter what I tried. I was worried the rim may be damaged, but take it, it's just the bead. It was very uncomfortable to ride for a day or so, but then I got to use a track pump and pumped to 120psi to try and force it to seat. It rode into being a lot better, but not perfect. Are there any more tips for seating when you can't replace the tyre immediately. In hindsight, I'd prefer a tougher rear tyre, or carry a spare with me. The thread was showing come the end, but I managed to get it back to England without any punctures. I had a spare but used Schwalbe Pro One tubeless which also wouldn't sit. Now I really feared it was the rim! But a new Michelin Krylion Carbon and tube combo did the trick and will remain until I research a good tubeless tyre with longevity. Despite the episode I'm a big fan of tubeless.
Just bought a gravel bike with 700c tires, 40mm wide. I can't seem to find a 700c 40mm tube to carry for emergencies. Is the sizing different for tubes than for tires?
What did you end up buying as a tube?
@@DavidLizWalshe Sorry, I don't remember. I found something that was supposed to fit and I carried it around for a long time. But the thing is, I run tubeless tires. I have had several punctures, as evidenced by sealant spraying out and then stopping with no further action needed. I never needed the tire, so I pulled it out of my tool bag and put it . . . somewhere. I haven't seen it in ages.
There were two instances where I had to take action. One was my original Bontrager tire that came on the bike developed an egg and I could feeling it bumping with every revolution of the tire. I pushed it back in, and it took me all the way home without popping out again. Then I replaced the tire.
The second was a hole too big for the sealant, so I pulled out my trusty little plug kit and plugged it. It took around two minutes to fix it and I have been running on that tire for several months without any problems.
You didn't say what kind of inner tube can we use on that tire, I mean the inner tube fits on 700×25 or 700×28 or there an specific one for each tire?
Virtually any tube will work.
Do you have to install rim tape when you want to use this tubeless rdy wheels with a normal tire/ inner tube setup?
Rim tape would already be installed.
at 4:52 you can see that the safety line isn's seated properly and disappears under the rim (just under the 2 of "125"), unfortunately not even Giant can seem to seat this tyre combination properly. I write this have just spent an hour trying to seat my own ones.
Is it not necessary to install rim strip /rim tape before installing tube?
Rim tape is already installed.
I'm Looking for the right size for my Giant bikecycle innertube but I couldn't find the right Sizes,I wonder could anyone on here can give Me a clue of Right kind the size for this Bikecycle innertube..The Innertube is small..
What size do you need?
The videos not a lot of good if you puncture outdoors. Who carries isopropyl alcohol and spare rags with them?
You dont need them. Just put the tube inside the tire like a normal tubular so you can get back to wherever. I've done it a few times and never needed the other shit they have in this video
@@meatsisbackonthemenu4631 If this thing is puncturing so often to the extent that you need to fit an inner tube, why not just leave the inner tube in there and forget all this messy sealant?
@@slappop7082 I do not use any tubeless tyres yet, but I consider buying a Giant TCR with tubeless&hookless rims. As far as I imagine with tubeless wheels it will be less likely to have punctures. But there will eventually come the situation where you will need to put in an inner tube to get home.
As I do not have any experience I cannot say if advantages or disadvantages predominate...
@@mrs3lfd3s7ruc7 You are right. Sealant in tubeless should fix any small puncture. Carrying a inner tube is really for those cases where the puncture is too large for the sealant to fix. Tubeless + inner tube as emergency measure = you are very well covered in case of any puncture. Why not leave the inner tube in the tyre? Well, one incident could leave you with BOTH tyre and inner tube punctured, which leaves you in a worse predicament. Also, you are suspectible to pinch flats, which is something not possible with tubeless-only setup. Finally, there could also be performance penalty with the inner tube.
@@slappop7082 Tubeless tires don’t puncture often. If you don’t pay attention and ride through broken glass or road aprons coated with black cinder (volcanic obsidian - it cuts like glass) then almost any tire system will risk being punctured.
Is it just me or are tubeless tires just normal tires.
Is anyone there to ask a simple question please??
Asked for tubed when I ordered my Giant road bike. Showed up with the slr tubeless. Sort of got stuck with them because of availability. Not happy with them from day one. Asked if shop would take them on partial trade for regular tubed wheels. Told no. Also ordered it with the shimano crank set. Came with praxis. Should have told them to keep the bike, but was without after crash. Not a fan of giant. Ordering a Spec Tarmac.
I'm so done with tubeless!
Tubeless is just a bad idea for road riding. Simpler is almost always better. Before I bought my Giant Advanced I could carry a pump and a couple tubes and feel confident that I was prepared. Now a flat might mean having to call for a ride or a long walk home. Just stupid!
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Worst tyre in the world to install, changed to vittoria zafiro pro, and tubeless is nice till you puncture and realize that cant handle 100 psi