How to tell, when your cassette is worn-out, changing the cassette, checking and readjusting the derailleur if required. You could also include changing the chain at the same time.
Adding cable tension to a front derailer via barrel adjusters on the bike or the in line cable barrel adjusters you can add if your bike doesn’t have that or any option that doesn’t involve what most of us do which is , pull the ever loving hell out of the cable with a pair of pliers while tightening the screw
I went to tubeless many months ago. Because I have had 0 flats since then, the amount of maintenance I have to do is far less than with tubes. After the first 6 months I opened the tires, wiped out the old goo, and replaced it with new goo. Recently one of the tires seemed to not hold air quite as well as it used to, so I injected about 20 ml of fresh goo in through the valve tube, and it is like day one. I did notice that at my 6 month goo change, I had to remove a couple of thorns that had made their way into the tire, but those would have been flats on the road if I were still running tubes. I didn't even know about them until I felt around the inside of the tires at the 6 month service. Being chiefly a long distance rider, tubeless --with the pool noodle inserts for safety-- permits the most amount of riding timed before nightfall. I no longer have to cut my rides short because of the time required to repair a flat.
That's my experience too! But to be fair, I ride low pressure and tubeless ready tires. Coming from an streetbike from 1993 it felt like heaven to change to a tubeless gravel bike. No puncture after 5000km now. Did everything, thorny bushes, shards, sharp and rocky MTB Stuff and muddy swamps (everything with 20kg+ luggage on the bike).
I've been 4 years on tubeless and do nothing to maintain them. You need a quality valve and sealants make a huge difference. Stan's is by far best. Literally never had a flat in 4 years.
What about the holes left by the thorns, do you just ignore them and let the new sealant fill them up? I just about managed to get my first tubeless tyre on yesterday, was on the verge of giving up, but using compressor with valve core out and some sealant on the outside of the tyre helped to get the tube seated, some of the noises where a bit horrifying though, I think its the vibration of the metal after the tyre seats itself.
+1, went from a flat every 4 rides to zero (!!) flats in 3 years after I switched to tubeless. Used new bought, but the same tire (wtb venture). I ride stoney / rough gravel in the hilly forests of Germany.
This video is really just a bad review of Muc-Off sealant clogging the valve. There are other sealants which don't clog the valve. You just insert 30mils of sealant every few months through the valve without having to unseat the tyre bead, and then be on your way. Muc-Off sealant is good at sealing, but triples the maintenance time required compared to other sealants. And when ever you have to add some pressure, it takes forever and a lot of extra effort to push the air around the valve clog. It's good that they are prepared to advertise weaknesses of Sponsors products.
I'm not that person but I really like Orange Endurance sealant, and I use an injector to do it right through the valve. Stuff like Stans has clogged my valves, but that has not, and it doesn't dry up quickly and leave behind "stanimals" or the like.
@@drivemenuts3011 I've found its certain valve/sealant combos to be the issue, ironically its the valves that have some kind of anti-blocking design to the inner opening + a high particle sealant, which, (double irony) means Muc-off valves + Muc-off sealant can be an issue. I much prefer the type that just has a rubber cone on the inside, if it does block, just poke it out with a spoke or something.
Best way to avoid gummed up valves is to put the bike away after use with valves in the 4 or 8 o'clock position....pointing down(to drain) and high enough not to be immersed in any excess sealant. I use Muc-Off in my E-MTB tyres and latterly on my road bike. It's a REAL pain to remove, and I turn inside out the tyre, use a wire brush and hose to remove old sealant it doesn't wash off like in this video, though he looks like he's used enough for a plus MTB/fat tyre. Also need to thoroughly clean the beads of the tyre and the rims(use a plastic or wooden pick/skewer under the hooks). I switch tyres for the Winter/Summer on the E-MTB and am going to try Orange Endurance this time... And the road bike will be getting the same come spring now I'm on my autimn/winter road bike and the good one is on the smart trainer. I've had one puncture experience at Laggan Wolftrax- my own error running too low pressures and cased the rear wheel causing two tiny snakebite punctures but no rim damage- and the Muc-Off failed spectacularly to seal the holes....Lucky I was done for the day anyway and a short hop to the van! )Got some of those maxalami "anchovies" now for the next time...
This is the best video to promote inner tubes. i was thinking about switching but not now lol. Great video though proper Ronseal, does just what it says on tin
For anyone who has a totally stuck “rubber cement” style dried sealant and just can’t seem to get the bead to unseat…Run the wheel under hot water for a bit, it will loosen the dried sealant and make getting the tire off way easier.
I think this trick depends on the sealant used. I've been neglecting my tubeless winter bike, and the tyres just wouldn't come off. I've contemplated the use of dynamite. In the end I just gripped the tyre in a vice and tore it off.
With Presta It's a swings and roundabouts thing really, on one hand they offer some protection to the valve head from stones hitting them and crap getting on them/into the valve etc. Which is less of an issue on road bikes. But they also have a tendency to get tight/stuck on the stem (usually the aluminium ones and always in cold weather when your hands wont work/grip properly). With Schrader they are pretty much essential, they WILL fill up with dust/mud/grit if left uncapped long enough.
I was gonna say the same thing, like the entire purpose is to protect the valve core. Why such hate on something that might save a trip to the bike shop for a new valve core.
Wore through a set of tires this season. I'll be able to easily install new tires and reuse the tubes. Hope I just didn't jinx myself on a flat free summer. Team Tubes for now.
All you really needed to do in this instance is clean the valve with a cleaning rod (like the wolftooth one, but many available) and top off the sealant. 10 minute job. All that crud on the bead IS what made your seal and will form again as soon as you are done setting it up fresh. If you really go to the effort to clean all the old dried up sealant out of the tire (which I didn't see you do) you would only save a fraction of an ounce (I have done this and measured the weight savings. It is negligible).
And this is why tubeless in its current form won't become mainstream. Between faffing around with sealant and needing a compressor to seat some tyre/wheel combinations it is still way off being a general consumer product. And yes, I DO use tubeless tyres and have been for over four years. Given that I have been stranded more times with tubeless tyres than with tubes, it is really debatable whether they are currently worth the effort on "high" pressure installations. Good and helpful video though for those like me who are persisting with it.
Got a new bike last year , tyres tyre were tubeless prepared. Loved it initially, until I got a puncture which the sealant would not work on. Thankfully I managed to get home. Back to inner tubes.
Really? Is that a good reason to go back to tubes? You probably had loads of punctures you never even knew about before that day, and tubes always fail to seal anyway.
Get a Dynaplug, it's just not worth going back to tubes. I've just ridden my tubes again after indoor season, and they are just so slow. I'll remount my tubeless tyres asap.
Went tubeless for about a year, gave up and went back to tubes. The sealant does not like the heat of the inside of a car, it seems... Leaked all the time, even after having my LBS do a complete redo. Just want something to work somewhat reliably for my lifestyl, so tubes it is
Great video. I was getting ready to make the purchase on everything I needed to go tubeless but after watching this video I have decided to stay with tubes.
You don't really need to do any of this though.... The only thing you really need to do is top up the sealant when needed (Some variation in different climates of how often you will need to top up the sealant humid or dry). Have been using tubeless for well over ten years on mountain bike (ridden extensively in Australia, NZ, Colorado, Utah) and now on road bike. Have never had a puncture on the road bike and maybe one issue with the mountain bike. Prior to going tubeless I would have had maybe a dozen punctures in a couple of years of MTBing. Generally you would probably be due to replace the tire before you would need to clean them like that.
most bottles of sealant comes with a little plastic stick you could use to poke sealant once the valve core has been removed. A small/narrow zip tie also works for this. I love tubeless tires day-to-day, but loath them once it comes time for anything maintenance haha
I've been a roadie for decades! I had bought a 29er mtn bike for commutes to work thru the desert. The bike came with tubeless setup and I had no idea to maintain the tires. And after 10 months of daily commuting I had to change tires. When taking the tires off, I had ZERO sealant in both tires. Just running off air and still did the job somehow. I was slightly impressed and shocked
Thanks for the video, Alex! Just went in my garage to rotate my wheels so the valve is at the top. Definitely prevents this type of issue. I started running tubeless in 2020 on my Salsa Warbird, and it has been running trouble-free for over 2,000 miles.
I've been riding tubeless road tires for 12 years, starting with Shamal Ultra on a frame that could barely fit a 25mm tire. The high pressure required for 'narrow' tires made mounting the tires a nightmare and the sealant would explode out of punctures. Now riding 28mm tires and it's SO much easier. Plus, not to denigrate the sealants with the glitter in mixture like the Muc-Off alex is using, I've committed to switching to Silca's carbon particle product, fingers crossed. Also, if you have trouble getting the tire to seat, there are several manufacturers of high pressure canister storage where you don't need to buy a new pump and they're very affordable. They pump up to 150 psi and release all that pressure in one blast.
@@_NoName... 20000 km+ this year to date mostly gravel on WTB Byways (slick, light, fast, supple) no punctures (that know of) no tube replacements. I can change my tyres in 15 mins, read the video title, this is NOT representative of normal TL maintenance, top up through the valve every 3 months or so 5 mins DONE. That's simplicity.
@@chris1275cc Simplicicty is not having to do anything with valves or being worried to have it done... kind of bias comment, really... the maintenance of tubeless is by far more hassle than inners, and that is a fact, not an opinion. Sorry man. I liked WTB's tyres on my gravel, love that brand, I was using the riddler's, fast tyres as well, I will check the Byways next time i replace them👌
Tried tpu tubes for the first time last week, attracted by the significant reduction in size for spare(s) in my small saddle bag. Punctured 2 miles from home at the end of a 85 mile ride. Couldn’t see the problem. Unfortunately I didn’t have a spare at that time and my s/a patches were only suitable for my butyl tubes. Got home and eventually found a tiny 2mm slit in what was a brand new (that ride) tyre. So much for tpu’s improved puncture resistance too.
I run tubeless in my gravel bike I had my mountain bike using orange seal and yes once a year I need to do maintenance and check up on things and since I live in a very warm hot climate such as South Florida things tend to dry up inside from the looks of this video I’m going to assume that there’s no valve that will never get clogged up because I deal with the same thing it’s a real pain even when I want to air up the tires. So yeah even having orange seal tubeless sealant dries up and I have to peel the whole tire inside like a snake is shedding skin so it’s a little bit of a project time consuming but once a year I guess I can put up with it and deal with it , and even if it’s two bicycles I kind of do it when maybe I’m not up to riding or I wanna have like a rest day or a rest afternoon turn on some music maybe a beer or two and just go to work and since I’m not using my gravel bike lately I go in there and just spin the wheels to keep things distributed properly so it does not pool up or dry up In one location and especially the tire valve don’t want that getting clogged up even though it will always seems like the front wheel for me
I’ll be happy to say “I refuse to do tubes and will stay with tubeless”. I have had more problems with tubes than tubeless (muc-off is my tubeless choice). I don’t worry about to much besides riding and not getting a flat (yes I been stranded miles away from a bike shop worrying if I’ll get another flat).
That’s right, the venerable inner tube is so much easier. I have used tubes since I was 8 years old, even thick thornproof ones. But, I have not had any flats since I switched to tubeless. Today I just did what was described. Took me about an hour, then again I was in no rush. Sealant costs a hefty price. My tires were bone dry so to start over I added 90 cc of sealant in each. I use FillMore valves so they were not gunked up. That type of valve costs a bit too. So in the end I think inner tubes are cheaper. Plus you can service things even in the middle of nowhere. With tubeless though, I haven’t needed to- SO FAR. Really boils down to a choice. I certainly DO NOT want to see the end of inner tubes. Both systems have their place.
Tubeless since 2016. My first tubeless wheels Stan's Avion(2016), second wheel set Roval CL50"s(2019). Since getting my Zipp 303 firecrest wheel set back in 2020 doing what Alex just did is way easier in real life. I have both "black wall" and "Tan wall" Conti GP 5K Str tyres, I don't wanna wear out the tan wall too fast so I switch to the black sidewall for a few months then back to Tan. It's really easy I'm 66yrs and I figured it out.
Oh boy. This whole video , as exceptionally well made as it is, is an advertisement for inner tubes. The idea to have to do this gunk cleanup etc (and miraculously no drop of sealant spilled which must be a technology's first), x2 wheels, for several bikes, _once per year_, really deters me from ever even trying. Great video tjhough, and man, your workbench & Park toolkit makes every bike geek green with envy.
I was reluctant too, but one and a half years I am hooked. They ride really well and fast. Yes some of the initial setup and maintenance is a pain, but it's very reliable. I do all the maintenance my self, 62 year old. Cars went tubeless a long time ago for a good reason, less punctures.
I want to like tubeless, but what a giant PitA. In the amount of time it took to clean up and reseal the tubeless tire I could have changed 20 tubed tires. Never mind the mess all over the garage.
Loved the video. It provided me the confidence & motivation to clean my tires from the old sealant (some of it dating back to previous decade) and to re-mount them with new sealant. Just puzzled how you did in 9 minutes whilst I wasted half a day :) well, at least my beer was properly chilled by the time I finished
I went tubeless last year, but was planning to redo the sealant before the season and was a bit unsure how to approach it. Now I'm not. The team inner tube can stay inner tubes for all I care. ;)
@@ribbyramone Interesting it hasn't worked for you. I've had it seal the kind of holes I usually get from pieces of wire (bits of car tire belt?). They seal and never leak again for the life of the tire. I wonder why our experiences are so different. FWIW I've used Stans and Orange Seal with equal success.
As informative the video was, there is one more reason I'm not going tubeless. Last year, with tubes, 28mm tires and over 2000miles, I got juste one puncture, patched up on the side, easy peasy. And we live in a place were it seems to be a regional sport to smash glasses bottles on random places in the road or cycle paths. Still, tubeless seems like too much chores to me than "patching it up when needs be". I get why one would prefer to go tubeless tho. But for me, it isn't a deal.
I don't use sealant anymore, especially, for new tire setups, I haven't been using it for years and I never had a problem, not even a flat!! However, I might use it if a tire is older and has a tiny leak, to seal that leak! think about it: Do you use sealant in a car tire? I thought so!
Great clip thank you. Have you got a view on the Reserve Fillmore tubeless valves. Sealant seems to flow through well and I haven't had the same clog issues.
That crusty sealant scab was gross yet looked kinda satisfying to break apart. Might have to check mine soon even though they’ve only been set up a month. 🤞🏻 hope there’s a scab 😂
Also make sure to clean the valve outer thread which takes the valve nut. I've had some big gashes that the sealant couldn't fix, so I was going to put the emergency spare tube in -- only to find that the valve nut had seized to a point that it was impossible to remove the tubeless valve. I needed a pickup 😳😥
The only time I ever had trouble sealing was when I rode in March without having added any sealant since the previous year. I had to top off co2 twice, thankfully all out of the same canister.
The sealant in my MTB tyre was completely dried & it was very tiresome to clean it. I found that wet & dry abrasive paper was best but still very time consuming. I'm tempted to fit an inner tube like so many others
I suggest a modification to your two tyre rules. 1. Direction of rotation. 2. Line up your recommended pressure with your valve. Saves looking for it. From my mate John, who owns way too many bikes...
After nearly a year my tubeless road tires were needing re-inflating daily and popping off a section of the rim confirmed the Stans sealant had completely dried out. Dumped in another 30ml, popped the rim back on and re-inflated. 5 minute job and normal performance resumed (top up a couple of times a month).
I was shocked too. I left a wheel with Stans sealant for about 8 months and it was pretty much dry, except around the bead. It was sticky and gooey and just very messy. It took me 30 minutes to clean each tire, plus another 30 minutes for each rim to get all the muck off and get the wheels and rims back to looking new. I am switching to the stuff you use...
Is that a Zipp 303S wheel? My bike shop fitted them to my gravel bike recently, as they were the only ones available, and I wasn’t sure they would be suitable for gravel. But I’m pleased to say they are great. Tubeless of course!
you can take a pencil eraser gum and go around the bead of the tire and rubbing back and forth it will remove the old rubber that has dried on the tire. You can also use on the inside of the tire taking all the old dried up sealant off the tire. I use a brush on the rim to get the dried sealant out of the bead well.
I’ve never had this issue. Three questions or comments 1. No mention in video to how many months to get to this plugged valve condition. 2. My DT Swiss valve design is completely different and less prone to plugging 3. Use a different sealant. Why stay with parts that created the problem? 😊
It s not months its more like minutes with Muc-Off valves and sealant. Joe's No flats and cheap boring valves = No punctures, no clogging, no issues. Muc-Off stuff in general either sucks or is overpriced generic crap.
This video clearly displays one of the main reasons I went back to inner tubes and clinchers after several months of trying tubeless: I simply cannot get past the disgusting nature of the sealant. What sane person wants to be greeted with goo all over the inside of the tire and rim during a roadside repair? (And let's be honest, punctures can still happen with tubeless.) I say this from personal experience: eeew.
Great instructional video for tubeless-users. But to be frank: all this maintenance needed shows me exactly why i am still not convinced and using tubeless. No offense.
I think it really depends on how you ride. I've gone tubeless on my road bike because I'd like to run lower pressures combined with larger volume tires (50psi with 30mm tires). I don't think I could ever go back to tubes just because I no longer have any hand or back pain from longer rides.
Understandable comment but...1. Since I switched to tubeless I punctured at least 2 times a year and just realised once I was back home. 2. The maintenance of the video can be easily done once a year at your bikeshop for 10-15 quid. Give tubeless a try!
Odd response really. Overall tubeless is better, and by far the biggest reason is that (as featured here) the maintenance is done in the comfort of your home rather than in the rain by the side of the road.
It is easier than it looks. I do it on the go with no tools, just wet towels and a normal pump. Never had a flat with tubeless in 3 years. Only people I saw having flats with tubeless are those who are afraid of tubeless and don’t do maintenance of the liquid. If you plan to take it to the bikeshop for maintenance, avoid tubeless. It isnt more complicated than inner tubes, just different. If you are old and you don’t like new things, then avoid it.
I converted from tubeless to tpm tubes (tubolito), they are lighter weight and work amazing. fuck tubeless seriously. so much work, every 2-3 months that gunk dries up, sure i continue to use it but if i get a flat it's not going to seal. I only ever had one flat, on tubeless, it only temporarily sealed just to burst open again a few rides later and spray my back and bike with sealant.
It's interesting that each video Alex does to try to educate us about going tubeless seems to put more people off. What does that say? Imagine if tubeless was here first, this gunky mess that was a bit of a hassle to maintain then, somebody invented inner tubes! People would be going mad for them, no more mess, easy to mount etc
I agree with the comments about needing annual maintenance being a pain but recently had 3 punctures in 4 days on a trip, so on balance its probably worth it....
So, if a rider just wants to not worry about tires beyond topping off the pressure and fixing that rare puncture, the biggest tubeless mistake he or she can make is going tubeless in the first place?
The Park Tool part numbers make perfect sense to anyone with a degree of common sense and knowledge of the industry. I suspect you are talking for effect. TL means Tyre Lever and the numbers are the version or revision. What part number system would you suggest?
I have had my gravel bike for about a year, and did not bother doing anything more than add more sealant this spring. I also have a mountain bike with tubeless from 2019, which I never topped up and still holds air. I think I should try to up my maintenance game, but I am not sure it is necessary...
How long did you use this sealant? Mine never looked as messy as yours. But I have to say I have to change my tyres at least once per year, so the sealant is not long in use.
Seems like most in the comments are afraid of change, just like with disc brakes. I'm on my second set of tubeless tires this year, wore the first ones out, and they require no real maintenance. Gotta give a few extra pumps before every ride, but they've saved me from so many punctures, they're faster, and they're more comfortable. It's really not that big of a deal. No idea what everyone's fussed about.
Change like you say. Also going tubeless with low end rims and tires is a pain and may discourage a lot of people. I convinced my sister to go tubeless but she had tons of leak and failures before I changed her rims and tires for mid range ones. If you change your tires every year dry sealant is a non issue and if you mostly ride off tarmac it is a wonderful solution.
A lot of folks (even in these comments) seem to go back to tubes after one puncture doesn't seal and things get a bit messy, but they are missing the bigger picture and never consider the fact they have likely had dozens of "punctures" they never even knew about before that one time, and standard tubes "fail to seal" 100% of the time. I kind of disagree about disc brakes tough I think there is an argument for both systems depending on where/how you ride, how heavy you are, and your budget. I have both (because N+1=😃) and happy with either.
New to tubeless set up which I have on my mtb, 29 x 2,6,not a year old yet and just topped up with about 40 ml in each tyre, is this advisable, I opened 1 tyre and still wet so deffo no dried up issues
NEVER pour waste sealant or wash water into the 'Storm Drain', only into your foul water municipal connection - which goes to a sewage treatment works - even if it is biodegradable! Storm drains go directly to the environment and into streams and rivers with no treatment.
Got a sealant question if anybody can answer it for me: I got the same muc-off no puncture hassle sealant and whenever I ride trough the rain I see that the small punctures that have been sealed in the past start to "bleed" pink. It's not allot but I presume I will end up topping up my sealant quicker then normally if the water is actually reliquefying the sealant in my punctures. Or am I doing something wrong and is this abnormal?
Yes. And perhaps more concerning, if you get a fresh puncture how much does a chilly wet day affect the ability to seal? In my limited experience.... it's generally a return to base asap situation.
At the end, you said something like, "This is the only time I'll screw on the dust cap." What circumstance do you mean? After removing/reinstalling the valve? Valve core? After cleaning then adding fresh sealant? When filming a UA-cam video? Frankly, I don't see the harm in using the dust caps all the time. Their weight is negligible, they keep the valve clean, and could conceivably prevent damage, especially on gravel. So please elaborate on this point.
Hello mate.,I've got a question. I had a crash and injured my elbow in may and I won't be riding at least until next year . So,should I leave the tyres with sealant.or just let dry until I start riding? Thanks.
The solids are no longer suspended in the liquid.. they have found areas to seal and stick to.... leaving just the liquid. Removing the valve and cleaning it and adding more fresh stuff is yeah the only way to go :- ) Nice ! Except I like Stans valves they dont catch so much gunk.
Don't use thumbs, use palms of your hands mate. I'll never go back to tubes. I've never had a flat with tubeless in the 4 years I switched. Still running rim brakes though LOL.
60 ml of sealant per tire? What does sealant weigh? It has to weigh much more than water. Doesn't 100g per tire kind of defeat the benefits of Carbon wheels?
Can't help but go along with the other comments that don't see tubeless in positive light anymore. Perhaps for off-road, maybe gravel, but road? No way, with all this work coming in. If it was at least 100% foolproof and actually worked 100% of them time, then maybe.
I don't agree with tubeless since it has never sealed any hole no matter how small. Anyway Alex I was wondering about a product called "Slime" and it's for car tires and is much thicker and 25% the price. Do you think it would work on bike tires?
Sealing the hole depends no only on the size off the hole but also the sealant used. Stan's and Orange Seal have worked very well for me. Others not as well. Nary a flat in three years. When I used tubes and Bontrager tires, I would get flats every week. When I switched to other manufacturers I still had flats but more like once every 2-3 months.
slime for me never did the job they do bike tubes and sealant. the biggest issue with it is that it pretty much always clogs your valves due to how fibrous it is.
This video illustrates EXACTLY why I'm staying with the TPU tube tech . . . no mess no bother and a TPU tube weighs not much more than the sealant ALONE LOL
I'm tubeless on gravel and road now, really am a convert and it worked great for me a couple days ago when sealant did its job and I was able to go another 45 miles after it sprayed out while I lost very little PSI. That was my road bike. On my gravel bike, I lose probably half the pressure in a day and can't figure out the problem. A video on diagnosing this would be great.
How many layers of rimtape do you use? My roadbike lost few psi when I only used one layer. My lbs said 2 layers is the way to go. On my mtb the gasket of the valve was a little bit damaged. I changed it carefully and now its fine.
how are your rims and tires? my commuter bike is tubeless cause i used it as an mtb before i got a new xc bike. the rear tire deflates faster because the rim is dented and the tire got some weird damage
The best way to get rid of those pesky bits of dried on sealant is to use a pair of workshop gloves with rubberised fingers. Always leaving your bike and inflating with the valve at the top is the best way to help keep valves crud-free
They are Muc-off V2, AVOID most valves don't clog up like that Muc-Off ones do, especially with their sealant ironically. Just search "oil slick" tubeless valves and will find cheap ones that look exactly the same but have standard mounded rubber cones on the inside, that won't clog as easy and just "poke out" when they do.
a bit of off topic: i found a seallent for tubes. .. it soften up the ride when u running high presure ...Then the tube got slised on the rim cuz i didn check my bandage
tubeless is such a mess… and you have to work around with it many times a year! For me (race bike, cross and TT and so 5 sets of wheels it means 30 times a year one wheel replacement of sealent, and every time this mess - and for what??? With latex tubes they run exactly as fast and you install once and never look back until the tire is worn. And with modern tires punctures almost doesn’t happen anymore
Does anyone make a tubeless tire that doesn’t require sealant (like an automobile tire), because it has a butyl backing? Both tires and rims can now be made to more precise dimensions, so I think this may obviate the need for tape and sealant if there’s no spoke holes in the rim bed ( as is the case already for Campagnolo Shamal ultra).
@@bikeman123 Thanks for the info! Yes I think if you don't get punctures often, it is easier to just eliminate the sealant and put in a tube when you have a puncture. Perhaps a tubeless repair might even work.
Not tubeless but… just changed to latex inner tubes for the first time. Got the Vittoria Competition Latex in bright pink as GCN suggested a few times :) now here’s the thing… first timer, pressure should be around 6.5-8bar. Either my pump is defect or something is off (while putting them on I triple checked everything and it looked good)… at 4bar I can’t seem to put more air into the tire? Anybody has any idea please? :)
The have tendency to cross thread and/or get stuck, usually in mid winter when your fingers wont work properly 😅, with Presta not a big deal to leave them off, Schrader on the other hand WILL fill up with crap if left uncapped.
this i'm very curious about as well. have you found out yet? I'd set a reminder in my phone to spin my wheels twice a week to prevent all this hassle if that's what it took. You can read in some of the replies that it took them a whole day to get the rim and tire clean, that's a dealbreaker for me in the tubes/tubeless choice.
What other maintenance videos would you like to see us make?
how to install older tubeless tires with a slightly stretched bead
Bedding new disc brake pads and new rotors
How to tell, when your cassette is worn-out, changing the cassette, checking and readjusting the derailleur if required. You could also include changing the chain at the same time.
Adding cable tension to a front derailer via barrel adjusters on the bike or the in line cable barrel adjusters you can add if your bike doesn’t have that or any option that doesn’t involve what most of us do which is , pull the ever loving hell out of the cable with a pair of pliers while tightening the screw
Is there some preventative maintenance I should be doing on my smart trainer?
I went to tubeless many months ago. Because I have had 0 flats since then, the amount of maintenance I have to do is far less than with tubes. After the first 6 months I opened the tires, wiped out the old goo, and replaced it with new goo. Recently one of the tires seemed to not hold air quite as well as it used to, so I injected about 20 ml of fresh goo in through the valve tube, and it is like day one.
I did notice that at my 6 month goo change, I had to remove a couple of thorns that had made their way into the tire, but those would have been flats on the road if I were still running tubes. I didn't even know about them until I felt around the inside of the tires at the 6 month service.
Being chiefly a long distance rider, tubeless --with the pool noodle inserts for safety-- permits the most amount of riding timed before nightfall. I no longer have to cut my rides short because of the time required to repair a flat.
That's my experience too! But to be fair, I ride low pressure and tubeless ready tires. Coming from an streetbike from 1993 it felt like heaven to change to a tubeless gravel bike. No puncture after 5000km now. Did everything, thorny bushes, shards, sharp and rocky MTB Stuff and muddy swamps (everything with 20kg+ luggage on the bike).
I've been 4 years on tubeless and do nothing to maintain them. You need a quality valve and sealants make a huge difference. Stan's is by far best. Literally never had a flat in 4 years.
What about the holes left by the thorns, do you just ignore them and let the new sealant fill them up?
I just about managed to get my first tubeless tyre on yesterday, was on the verge of giving up, but using compressor with valve core out and some sealant on the outside of the tyre helped to get the tube seated, some of the noises where a bit horrifying though, I think its the vibration of the metal after the tyre seats itself.
+1, went from a flat every 4 rides to zero (!!) flats in 3 years after I switched to tubeless. Used new bought, but the same tire (wtb venture). I ride stoney / rough gravel in the hilly forests of Germany.
if your tubes require any maintenance, something is wrong
This has been a great vid on 'staying' with inner tubes for my road bike, thank you!
This video is really just a bad review of Muc-Off sealant clogging the valve. There are other sealants which don't clog the valve. You just insert 30mils of sealant every few months through the valve without having to unseat the tyre bead, and then be on your way.
Muc-Off sealant is good at sealing, but triples the maintenance time required compared to other sealants. And when ever you have to add some pressure, it takes forever and a lot of extra effort to push the air around the valve clog.
It's good that they are prepared to advertise weaknesses of Sponsors products.
I never left - staying with Tubes until Tubeless is much less of a faff...
@@drivemenuts3011 I don’t have that problem at all. I been using Muc-off for the last 2 years on 3 bikes.
I'm not that person but I really like Orange Endurance sealant, and I use an injector to do it right through the valve. Stuff like Stans has clogged my valves, but that has not, and it doesn't dry up quickly and leave behind "stanimals" or the like.
@@drivemenuts3011 I've found its certain valve/sealant combos to be the issue, ironically its the valves that have some kind of anti-blocking design to the inner opening + a high particle sealant, which, (double irony) means Muc-off valves + Muc-off sealant can be an issue. I much prefer the type that just has a rubber cone on the inside, if it does block, just poke it out with a spoke or something.
Thanks for making a great video convincing me to stick with inner tubes!! (Not that I needed any convincing).
Best way to avoid gummed up valves is to put the bike away after use with valves in the 4 or 8 o'clock position....pointing down(to drain) and high enough not to be immersed in any excess sealant. I use Muc-Off in my E-MTB tyres and latterly on my road bike. It's a REAL pain to remove, and I turn inside out the tyre, use a wire brush and hose to remove old sealant it doesn't wash off like in this video, though he looks like he's used enough for a plus MTB/fat tyre. Also need to thoroughly clean the beads of the tyre and the rims(use a plastic or wooden pick/skewer under the hooks). I switch tyres for the Winter/Summer on the E-MTB and am going to try Orange Endurance this time... And the road bike will be getting the same come spring now I'm on my autimn/winter road bike and the good one is on the smart trainer. I've had one puncture experience at Laggan Wolftrax- my own error running too low pressures and cased the rear wheel causing two tiny snakebite punctures but no rim damage- and the Muc-Off failed spectacularly to seal the holes....Lucky I was done for the day anyway and a short hop to the van! )Got some of those maxalami "anchovies" now for the next time...
is it ok to rest the tubeless wheel valve on the top to avoid gummed?
This is the best video to promote inner tubes. i was thinking about switching but not now lol. Great video though proper Ronseal, does just what it says on tin
For anyone who has a totally stuck “rubber cement” style dried sealant and just can’t seem to get the bead to unseat…Run the wheel under hot water for a bit, it will loosen the dried sealant and make getting the tire off way easier.
is there any chemical that helps with the process? isopropyl alcohol maybe?
I think this trick depends on the sealant used. I've been neglecting my tubeless winter bike, and the tyres just wouldn't come off. I've contemplated the use of dynamite. In the end I just gripped the tyre in a vice and tore it off.
@@imilic8Muck off has a glue/sealant cleaner, works great
Great tip thanks
@@imilic8mineral spirits.
Why is there such a strong objection to dust caps? It seems reasonable to want to keep mud out of the valve and they hardly weigh anything.
agree and they add a nice bit of cheap bling !
If you've ever gotten grit in a valve when topping pressure, you'll always ride with dust caps after that.
With Presta It's a swings and roundabouts thing really, on one hand they offer some protection to the valve head from stones hitting them and crap getting on them/into the valve etc. Which is less of an issue on road bikes. But they also have a tendency to get tight/stuck on the stem (usually the aluminium ones and always in cold weather when your hands wont work/grip properly). With Schrader they are pretty much essential, they WILL fill up with dust/mud/grit if left uncapped long enough.
I have a couple of Star Wars characters as dust caps which haven't gone down well with some club members 🤣
I was gonna say the same thing, like the entire purpose is to protect the valve core. Why such hate on something that might save a trip to the bike shop for a new valve core.
Wore through a set of tires this season. I'll be able to easily install new tires and reuse the tubes. Hope I just didn't jinx myself on a flat free summer. Team Tubes for now.
All you really needed to do in this instance is clean the valve with a cleaning rod (like the wolftooth one, but many available) and top off the sealant. 10 minute job. All that crud on the bead IS what made your seal and will form again as soon as you are done setting it up fresh. If you really go to the effort to clean all the old dried up sealant out of the tire (which I didn't see you do) you would only save a fraction of an ounce (I have done this and measured the weight savings. It is negligible).
That video looks like it´s a lot of fun and reminds me why I continue with conventional tubes
And this is why tubeless in its current form won't become mainstream. Between faffing around with sealant and needing a compressor to seat some tyre/wheel combinations it is still way off being a general consumer product. And yes, I DO use tubeless tyres and have been for over four years. Given that I have been stranded more times with tubeless tyres than with tubes, it is really debatable whether they are currently worth the effort on "high" pressure installations. Good and helpful video though for those like me who are persisting with it.
Something is going wrong if you keep stranding with tubeless.
Got a new bike last year , tyres tyre were tubeless prepared. Loved it initially, until I got a puncture which the sealant would not work on. Thankfully I managed to get home. Back to inner tubes.
Really? Is that a good reason to go back to tubes? You probably had loads of punctures you never even knew about before that day, and tubes always fail to seal anyway.
@@chris1275cc Most of the punctures I become aware of immediately because they result in me putting the tire in and also ending up covered in sealant.
The worst case with tubeless is you put a tube in it. Just much less likely to need to do it
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Get a Dynaplug, it's just not worth going back to tubes. I've just ridden my tubes again after indoor season, and they are just so slow. I'll remount my tubeless tyres asap.
Went tubeless for about a year, gave up and went back to tubes. The sealant does not like the heat of the inside of a car, it seems... Leaked all the time, even after having my LBS do a complete redo. Just want something to work somewhat reliably for my lifestyl, so tubes it is
Another BS technology from an industry that consistently fleeces its customers imho
Great video. I was getting ready to make the purchase on everything I needed to go tubeless but after watching this video I have decided to stay with tubes.
You don't really need to do any of this though.... The only thing you really need to do is top up the sealant when needed (Some variation in different climates of how often you will need to top up the sealant humid or dry). Have been using tubeless for well over ten years on mountain bike (ridden extensively in Australia, NZ, Colorado, Utah) and now on road bike. Have never had a puncture on the road bike and maybe one issue with the mountain bike. Prior to going tubeless I would have had maybe a dozen punctures in a couple of years of MTBing. Generally you would probably be due to replace the tire before you would need to clean them like that.
@@cmarnold78 Thank you. I'll give it serious consideration.
most bottles of sealant comes with a little plastic stick you could use to poke sealant once the valve core has been removed. A small/narrow zip tie also works for this. I love tubeless tires day-to-day, but loath them once it comes time for anything maintenance haha
I've been a roadie for decades! I had bought a 29er mtn bike for commutes to work thru the desert. The bike came with tubeless setup and I had no idea to maintain the tires. And after 10 months of daily commuting I had to change tires. When taking the tires off, I had ZERO sealant in both tires. Just running off air and still did the job somehow. I was slightly impressed and shocked
Thanks for the video, Alex! Just went in my garage to rotate my wheels so the valve is at the top. Definitely prevents this type of issue. I started running tubeless in 2020 on my Salsa Warbird, and it has been running trouble-free for over 2,000 miles.
same error did at the beginning. The valve must stay at the bottom not at the top; that way possible sealant in the valve flows back in the tire
@@tecnico7676 thanks. 1st time tubeless owner.
I've been riding tubeless road tires for 12 years, starting with Shamal Ultra on a frame that could barely fit a 25mm tire. The high pressure required for 'narrow' tires made mounting the tires a nightmare and the sealant would explode out of punctures. Now riding 28mm tires and it's SO much easier. Plus, not to denigrate the sealants with the glitter in mixture like the Muc-Off alex is using, I've committed to switching to Silca's carbon particle product, fingers crossed. Also, if you have trouble getting the tire to seat, there are several manufacturers of high pressure canister storage where you don't need to buy a new pump and they're very affordable. They pump up to 150 psi and release all that pressure in one blast.
Seeing all this I am so happy that I use latex inner tubes!
Totally agree.
I get flat tyres aaaall the time with inner tubes
@@_NoName... Or go tubeless and you don't have to settle for a 400g tyre with piss poor rolling resistance 🤷♂
@@_NoName... 20000 km+ this year to date mostly gravel on WTB Byways (slick, light, fast, supple) no punctures (that know of) no tube replacements. I can change my tyres in 15 mins, read the video title, this is NOT representative of normal TL maintenance, top up through the valve every 3 months or so 5 mins DONE. That's simplicity.
@@chris1275cc Simplicicty is not having to do anything with valves or being worried to have it done... kind of bias comment, really... the maintenance of tubeless is by far more hassle than inners, and that is a fact, not an opinion. Sorry man.
I liked WTB's tyres on my gravel, love that brand, I was using the riddler's, fast tyres as well, I will check the Byways next time i replace them👌
Tried tpu tubes for the first time last week, attracted by the significant reduction in size for spare(s) in my small saddle bag. Punctured 2 miles from home at the end of a 85 mile ride. Couldn’t see the problem. Unfortunately I didn’t have a spare at that time and my s/a patches were only suitable for my butyl tubes. Got home and eventually found a tiny 2mm slit in what was a brand new (that ride) tyre. So much for tpu’s improved puncture resistance too.
I run tubeless in my gravel bike I had my mountain bike using orange seal and yes once a year I need to do maintenance and check up on things and since I live in a very warm hot climate such as South Florida things tend to dry up inside from the looks of this video I’m going to assume that there’s no valve that will never get clogged up because I deal with the same thing it’s a real pain even when I want to air up the tires. So yeah even having orange seal tubeless sealant dries up and I have to peel the whole tire inside like a snake is shedding skin so it’s a little bit of a project time consuming but once a year I guess I can put up with it and deal with it , and even if it’s two bicycles I kind of do it when maybe I’m not up to riding or I wanna have like a rest day or a rest afternoon turn on some music maybe a beer or two and just go to work and since I’m not using my gravel bike lately I go in there and just spin the wheels to keep things distributed properly so it does not pool up or dry up In one location and especially the tire valve don’t want that getting clogged up even though it will always seems like the front wheel for me
I also do the music / beer combo for longer then usual maintenance jobs 🙂
I’ll be happy to say “I refuse to do tubes and will stay with tubeless”. I have had more problems with tubes than tubeless (muc-off is my tubeless choice). I don’t worry about to much besides riding and not getting a flat (yes I been stranded miles away from a bike shop worrying if I’ll get another flat).
Great advert for the traditional tube.
That’s right, the venerable inner tube is so much easier. I have used tubes since I was 8 years old, even thick thornproof ones. But, I have not had any flats since I switched to tubeless. Today I just did what was described. Took me about an hour, then again I was in no rush. Sealant costs a hefty price. My tires were bone dry so to start over I added 90 cc of sealant in each. I use FillMore valves so they were not gunked up. That type of valve costs a bit too. So in the end I think inner tubes are cheaper. Plus you can service things even in the middle of nowhere. With tubeless though, I haven’t needed to- SO FAR. Really boils down to a choice. I certainly DO NOT want to see the end of inner tubes. Both systems have their place.
Tubeless since 2016. My first tubeless wheels Stan's Avion(2016), second wheel set Roval CL50"s(2019). Since getting my Zipp 303 firecrest wheel set back in 2020 doing what Alex just did is way easier in real life. I have both "black wall" and "Tan wall" Conti GP 5K Str tyres, I don't wanna wear out the tan wall too fast so I switch to the black sidewall for a few months then back to Tan. It's really easy I'm 66yrs and I figured it out.
I like tubeless on my road bike but need to get up to speed on repairs, etc. Very useful video.
It is a very useful tutorial for my new TCR maintenance, thank you Alex.
Long overdue video, thanks Alex.
Oh boy. This whole video , as exceptionally well made as it is, is an advertisement for inner tubes. The idea to have to do this gunk cleanup etc (and miraculously no drop of sealant spilled which must be a technology's first), x2 wheels, for several bikes, _once per year_, really deters me from ever even trying.
Great video tjhough, and man, your workbench & Park toolkit makes every bike geek green with envy.
I was reluctant too, but one and a half years I am hooked. They ride really well and fast.
Yes some of the initial setup and maintenance is a pain, but it's very reliable. I do all the maintenance my self, 62 year old.
Cars went tubeless a long time ago for a good reason, less punctures.
I want to like tubeless, but what a giant PitA. In the amount of time it took to clean up and reseal the tubeless tire I could have changed 20 tubed tires. Never mind the mess all over the garage.
Yeah, I think I'll be sticking to my TPU tubes thanks. Too messy for my liking...
Loved the video. It provided me the confidence & motivation to clean my tires from the old sealant (some of it dating back to previous decade) and to re-mount them with new sealant. Just puzzled how you did in 9 minutes whilst I wasted half a day :) well, at least my beer was properly chilled by the time I finished
I went tubeless last year, but was planning to redo the sealant before the season and was a bit unsure how to approach it. Now I'm not. The team inner tube can stay inner tubes for all I care. ;)
I'll stick with latex tubes with sealant. Road tubeless is a messy, high-maintenance solution in search of a real-world problem.
Tried it but it never works, even with the tiniest of holes.
@@ribbyramone Interesting it hasn't worked for you. I've had it seal the kind of holes I usually get from pieces of wire (bits of car tire belt?). They seal and never leak again for the life of the tire. I wonder why our experiences are so different. FWIW I've used Stans and Orange Seal with equal success.
aye another reason to stick with tubes ! what a faff and mess
Thank you for the honestly Alex, I continue with innertubes until tubeless tiers work without sealant like in a car
You can, they just won't seal if you have a puncture
@@JamSa85 That is good news. Maybe I give it a try in the future.
As informative the video was, there is one more reason I'm not going tubeless.
Last year, with tubes, 28mm tires and over 2000miles, I got juste one puncture, patched up on the side, easy peasy.
And we live in a place were it seems to be a regional sport to smash glasses bottles on random places in the road or cycle paths.
Still, tubeless seems like too much chores to me than "patching it up when needs be".
I get why one would prefer to go tubeless tho. But for me, it isn't a deal.
Did a 60 mile gravel ride yesterday on a CX bike with tubes and cantilever breaks. Zero punctures and breaking was nicely modulated.
I use tubes too but if I expected a puncture on a 60 mile ride I'd probably give up riding, years go by without getting one.
I have a tubeless wheels Zipp 404 I still used inner tube with green slime. It works very well. No mess.
I don't use sealant anymore, especially, for new tire setups, I haven't been using it for years and I never had a problem, not even a flat!! However, I might use it if a tire is older and has a tiny leak, to seal that leak! think about it: Do you use sealant in a car tire? I thought so!
Great clip thank you. Have you got a view on the Reserve Fillmore tubeless valves. Sealant seems to flow through well and I haven't had the same clog issues.
That crusty sealant scab was gross yet looked kinda satisfying to break apart. Might have to check mine soon even though they’ve only been set up a month. 🤞🏻 hope there’s a scab 😂
Also make sure to clean the valve outer thread which takes the valve nut. I've had some big gashes that the sealant couldn't fix, so I was going to put the emergency spare tube in -- only to find that the valve nut had seized to a point that it was impossible to remove the tubeless valve. I needed a pickup 😳😥
The only time I ever had trouble sealing was when I rode in March without having added any sealant since the previous year. I had to top off co2 twice, thankfully all out of the same canister.
The sealant in my MTB tyre was completely dried & it was very tiresome to clean it. I found that wet & dry abrasive paper was best but still very time consuming. I'm tempted to fit an inner tube like so many others
I suggest a modification to your two tyre rules.
1. Direction of rotation.
2. Line up your recommended pressure with your valve. Saves looking for it.
From my mate John, who owns way too many bikes...
After nearly a year my tubeless road tires were needing re-inflating daily and popping off a section of the rim confirmed the Stans sealant had completely dried out. Dumped in another 30ml, popped the rim back on and re-inflated. 5 minute job and normal performance resumed (top up a couple of times a month).
Nice vid…changed 4 tubed tires while I watched…very entertaining.
I was shocked too. I left a wheel with Stans sealant for about 8 months and it was pretty much dry, except around the bead. It was sticky and gooey and just very messy. It took me 30 minutes to clean each tire, plus another 30 minutes for each rim to get all the muck off and get the wheels and rims back to looking new. I am switching to the stuff you use...
Is that a Zipp 303S wheel? My bike shop fitted them to my gravel bike recently, as they were the only ones available, and I wasn’t sure they would be suitable for gravel. But I’m pleased to say they are great. Tubeless of course!
Awesome video and a reminder to check my own tires…lol…. Thank you Alex
you can take a pencil eraser gum and go around the bead of the tire and rubbing back and forth it will remove the old rubber that has dried on the tire. You can also use on the inside of the tire taking all the old dried up sealant off the tire. I use a brush on the rim to get the dried sealant out of the bead well.
I’ve never had this issue. Three questions or comments 1. No mention in video to how many months to get to this plugged valve condition. 2. My DT Swiss valve design is completely different and less prone to plugging 3. Use a different sealant. Why stay with parts that created the problem? 😊
It s not months its more like minutes with Muc-Off valves and sealant. Joe's No flats and cheap boring valves = No punctures, no clogging, no issues. Muc-Off stuff in general either sucks or is overpriced generic crap.
Great stuff! Thanks
This video clearly displays one of the main reasons I went back to inner tubes and clinchers after several months of trying tubeless: I simply cannot get past the disgusting nature of the sealant. What sane person wants to be greeted with goo all over the inside of the tire and rim during a roadside repair? (And let's be honest, punctures can still happen with tubeless.) I say this from personal experience: eeew.
I can't believe you even switched to tubeless in the first place.... I sure as shit don't want that hassle and expense in my life.
Great instructional video for tubeless-users. But to be frank: all this maintenance needed shows me exactly why i am still not convinced and using tubeless. No offense.
I was just about to write the same thing, I completely agree!
I think it really depends on how you ride. I've gone tubeless on my road bike because I'd like to run lower pressures combined with larger volume tires (50psi with 30mm tires). I don't think I could ever go back to tubes just because I no longer have any hand or back pain from longer rides.
Understandable comment but...1. Since I switched to tubeless I punctured at least 2 times a year and just realised once I was back home. 2. The maintenance of the video can be easily done once a year at your bikeshop for 10-15 quid. Give tubeless a try!
Odd response really. Overall tubeless is better, and by far the biggest reason is that (as featured here) the maintenance is done in the comfort of your home rather than in the rain by the side of the road.
It is easier than it looks. I do it on the go with no tools, just wet towels and a normal pump.
Never had a flat with tubeless in 3 years. Only people I saw having flats with tubeless are those who are afraid of tubeless and don’t do maintenance of the liquid. If you plan to take it to the bikeshop for maintenance, avoid tubeless.
It isnt more complicated than inner tubes, just different. If you are old and you don’t like new things, then avoid it.
im wondering you dont need to use tire lever to set the tire to the rim? just use high pressure pump ?
I converted from tubeless to tpm tubes (tubolito), they are lighter weight and work amazing. fuck tubeless seriously. so much work, every 2-3 months that gunk dries up, sure i continue to use it but if i get a flat it's not going to seal. I only ever had one flat, on tubeless, it only temporarily sealed just to burst open again a few rides later and spray my back and bike with sealant.
It's interesting that each video Alex does to try to educate us about going tubeless seems to put more people off. What does that say? Imagine if tubeless was here first, this gunky mess that was a bit of a hassle to maintain then, somebody invented inner tubes! People would be going mad for them, no more mess, easy to mount etc
Until you mentioned that you have to give up your puncture protection or buy heavy tyres with crap rolling resistance
Thinking to make the switch after multiple tube punctures lately but still apprehensive, uuuugh! 🤷🏼♂️
I agree with the comments about needing annual maintenance being a pain but recently had 3 punctures in 4 days on a trip, so on balance its probably worth it....
Yup, sometimes you can see the spots where your sealant leaked out, mine are shiny vs. the dull color on the tire. Count your blessings 😎
So, if a rider just wants to not worry about tires beyond topping off the pressure and fixing that rare puncture, the biggest tubeless mistake he or she can make is going tubeless in the first place?
For roadies yes.
The Park Tool part numbers make perfect sense to anyone with a degree of common sense and knowledge of the industry. I suspect you are talking for effect. TL means Tyre Lever and the numbers are the version or revision.
What part number system would you suggest?
Inner tubes with sealant for me. Less mess and more reliable.
I have had my gravel bike for about a year, and did not bother doing anything more than add more sealant this spring. I also have a mountain bike with tubeless from 2019, which I never topped up and still holds air. I think I should try to up my maintenance game, but I am not sure it is necessary...
Not a bad idea to increase your maintenance a bit, it might prevent you from getting stuck somewhere.
Nice one matey.
How long did you use this sealant? Mine never looked as messy as yours. But I have to say I have to change my tyres at least once per year, so the sealant is not long in use.
Seems like most in the comments are afraid of change, just like with disc brakes. I'm on my second set of tubeless tires this year, wore the first ones out, and they require no real maintenance. Gotta give a few extra pumps before every ride, but they've saved me from so many punctures, they're faster, and they're more comfortable. It's really not that big of a deal. No idea what everyone's fussed about.
Change like you say. Also going tubeless with low end rims and tires is a pain and may discourage a lot of people. I convinced my sister to go tubeless but she had tons of leak and failures before I changed her rims and tires for mid range ones. If you change your tires every year dry sealant is a non issue and if you mostly ride off tarmac it is a wonderful solution.
A lot of folks (even in these comments) seem to go back to tubes after one puncture doesn't seal and things get a bit messy, but they are missing the bigger picture and never consider the fact they have likely had dozens of "punctures" they never even knew about before that one time, and standard tubes "fail to seal" 100% of the time. I kind of disagree about disc brakes tough I think there is an argument for both systems depending on where/how you ride, how heavy you are, and your budget. I have both (because N+1=😃) and happy with either.
If you do not ride your bike every day, tubeless is crap. Tubulars are so much easier to maintain.
@@stibra101 Do you mean Tubes? Because "Tubulars" are a whole different thing.
@@chris1275cc No, I mean tubulars. They are so easy compared to tubeless
New to tubeless set up which I have on my mtb, 29 x 2,6,not a year old yet and just topped up with about 40 ml in each tyre, is this advisable, I opened 1 tyre and still wet so deffo no dried up issues
NEVER pour waste sealant or wash water into the 'Storm Drain', only into your foul water municipal connection - which goes to a sewage treatment works - even if it is biodegradable! Storm drains go directly to the environment and into streams and rivers with no treatment.
Got a sealant question if anybody can answer it for me:
I got the same muc-off no puncture hassle sealant and whenever I ride trough the rain I see that the small punctures that have been sealed in the past start to "bleed" pink.
It's not allot but I presume I will end up topping up my sealant quicker then normally if the water is actually reliquefying the sealant in my punctures.
Or am I doing something wrong and is this abnormal?
Yes. And perhaps more concerning, if you get a fresh puncture how much does a chilly wet day affect the ability to seal? In my limited experience.... it's generally a return to base asap situation.
At the end, you said something like, "This is the only time I'll screw on the dust cap." What circumstance do you mean? After removing/reinstalling the valve? Valve core? After cleaning then adding fresh sealant? When filming a UA-cam video? Frankly, I don't see the harm in using the dust caps all the time. Their weight is negligible, they keep the valve clean, and could conceivably prevent damage, especially on gravel. So please elaborate on this point.
Hello mate.,I've got a question.
I had a crash and injured my elbow in may and I won't be riding at least until next year .
So,should I leave the tyres with sealant.or just let dry until I start riding?
Thanks.
Great video... But what a ball ache
The solids are no longer suspended in the liquid.. they have found areas to seal and stick to.... leaving just the liquid. Removing the valve and cleaning it and adding more fresh stuff is yeah the only way to go :- ) Nice ! Except I like Stans valves they dont catch so much gunk.
That's why I am still using latex tubes on my roadbike, where the advantage of tubeless is less than gravel or mtb
Don't use thumbs, use palms of your hands mate. I'll never go back to tubes. I've never had a flat with tubeless in the 4 years I switched. Still running rim brakes though LOL.
Inner Tubes are my friend.Tubeless is so messy, a lot of work preparing and cleanups.
Think I will stay with my latex tubes.
Putting the rubber washer on the inside instead of the outside will reduce the gunk buildup around the valve stem on the inside of the wheel.
The famous tire sealant barnacles 😂 really very very nteresting video.
GCN, the only workplace where you can wash out your tires in the kitchen sink without being frowned on.
60 ml of sealant per tire? What does sealant weigh? It has to weigh much more than water. Doesn't 100g per tire kind of defeat the benefits of Carbon wheels?
Can't help but go along with the other comments that don't see tubeless in positive light anymore. Perhaps for off-road, maybe gravel, but road? No way, with all this work coming in. If it was at least 100% foolproof and actually worked 100% of them time, then maybe.
I don't agree with tubeless since it has never sealed any hole no matter how small. Anyway Alex I was wondering about a product called "Slime" and it's for car tires and is much thicker and 25% the price. Do you think it would work on bike tires?
Sealing the hole depends no only on the size off the hole but also the sealant used. Stan's and Orange Seal have worked very well for me. Others not as well. Nary a flat in three years. When I used tubes and Bontrager tires, I would get flats every week. When I switched to other manufacturers I still had flats but more like once every 2-3 months.
slime for me never did the job they do bike tubes and sealant. the biggest issue with it is that it pretty much always clogs your valves due to how fibrous it is.
Slime makes a type that's specific designed for bike tires.
This video illustrates EXACTLY why I'm staying with the TPU tube tech . . . no mess no bother and a TPU tube weighs not much more than the sealant ALONE LOL
TPU weighs less, and non tubeless tyres are also lighter.
@@Gianniz27 True enough !
I put a drop of oil on the valve and core which seems to slow the accumulation of dried sealant
I'm tubeless on gravel and road now, really am a convert and it worked great for me a couple days ago when sealant did its job and I was able to go another 45 miles after it sprayed out while I lost very little PSI. That was my road bike. On my gravel bike, I lose probably half the pressure in a day and can't figure out the problem. A video on diagnosing this would be great.
How many layers of rimtape do you use? My roadbike lost few psi when I only used one layer. My lbs said 2 layers is the way to go. On my mtb the gasket of the valve was a little bit damaged. I changed it carefully and now its fine.
@@MaxMustermannnnnn I'm using two layers of tape. Had a hole once when I only had one layer. Seems sorted, now.
@@MaxMustermannnnnn Thanks for the tips.
how are your rims and tires? my commuter bike is tubeless cause i used it as an mtb before i got a new xc bike. the rear tire deflates faster because the rim is dented and the tire got some weird damage
Rim tape is the issue. If you use bontranger wheels by any chance, they have plastic rim strips which actually hold pressure much better.
The best way to get rid of those pesky bits of dried on sealant is to use a pair of workshop gloves with rubberised fingers.
Always leaving your bike and inflating with the valve at the top is the best way to help keep valves crud-free
Even better is to use a hair dryer to warm up the gunk, than it will detach from the tyre very easily
Hi can you tell me what tubeless valve stems those are, they look excellent!
I believe they are Muc-Off brand, iridescent in color
They are Muc-off V2, AVOID most valves don't clog up like that Muc-Off ones do, especially with their sealant ironically. Just search "oil slick" tubeless valves and will find cheap ones that look exactly the same but have standard mounded rubber cones on the inside, that won't clog as easy and just "poke out" when they do.
Forgot to say I use "STZY Valves" search them and you will see what I mean.
Do you really only add sealant once per year? You don't top it up periodically?
a bit of off topic: i found a seallent for tubes. .. it soften up the ride when u running high presure ...Then the tube got slised on the rim cuz i didn check my bandage
tubeless is such a mess… and you have to work around with it many times a year! For me (race bike, cross and TT and so 5 sets of wheels it means 30 times a year one wheel replacement of sealent, and every time this mess - and for what??? With latex tubes they run exactly as fast and you install once and never look back until the tire is worn. And with modern tires punctures almost doesn’t happen anymore
Does anyone make a tubeless tire that doesn’t require sealant (like an automobile tire), because it has a butyl backing? Both tires and rims can now be made to more precise dimensions, so I think this may obviate the need for tape and sealant if there’s no spoke holes in the rim bed ( as is the case already for Campagnolo Shamal ultra).
My Giant Defy tyres came tubeless inflated without tube or sealant, so I guess like a car I could have ridden it and hoped to not get a puncture.
@@bikeman123 Thanks for the info! Yes I think if you don't get punctures often, it is easier to just eliminate the sealant and put in a tube when you have a puncture. Perhaps a tubeless repair might even work.
how long without maintenance??
Not tubeless but… just changed to latex inner tubes for the first time. Got the Vittoria Competition Latex in bright pink as GCN suggested a few times :) now here’s the thing… first timer, pressure should be around 6.5-8bar. Either my pump is defect or something is off (while putting them on I triple checked everything and it looked good)… at 4bar I can’t seem to put more air into the tire? Anybody has any idea please? :)
You should used the SILCA product much better stuff, works every time.
Why would you not have a dust cap?
The have tendency to cross thread and/or get stuck, usually in mid winter when your fingers wont work properly 😅, with Presta not a big deal to leave them off, Schrader on the other hand WILL fill up with crap if left uncapped.
And with 3 bikes all TR, I'll stick to the innertube solution :-)
What do you need to do on a regular basis to avoid getting to that stage in the first place?
this i'm very curious about as well. have you found out yet? I'd set a reminder in my phone to spin my wheels twice a week to prevent all this hassle if that's what it took. You can read in some of the replies that it took them a whole day to get the rim and tire clean, that's a dealbreaker for me in the tubes/tubeless choice.