A lot of people have been hatin on Pyra and Mythra getting in but I just think they look really cool and I can’t wait for them to come out so I can play them.
@@bumblebee8903 what wdym I was always assuming you were gonna say attack power there couldn’t be any other reason.There couldn’t be 2 giant round reasons nope.
This is exactly what I think. Plus, you don't see the little sparkle that indicates it's a smash attack and there's a bit of dust that flies up behind her. It really looks like a dash attack..
all jokes aside, i think the omega form would just be gramps floating in the background as you fight on a platform, while pokefloats would be a bunch of pokemon with their corpses crunched up together to make a stage.
@@youtubecat3809 I think you might be correct for the omega form because of some stages having this work around when switching to omega and battlefield. Two examples I can think of that work around to making these forms are the Minecraft stage and Mario Bros. stage, the original stage becomes part of the background behind this new stage form with textures still specific to the stage. If Pokéfloats were in the game, it'd likely use this work around for omega and battlefield forms.
As cool as Elma is and having both fuel swords and duel guns would be I'd actually rather have Lin. Going into the game I didn't expect much of her but she quickly became my favorite character in the game. That and her weapons are pretty cool and it's be interesting to see a moveset in Smash made more around defense than offense.
@@lucaspoirier9407 The character design may've been the worst looking aspect of XCX, but the combat and world was great. I thought Elma would've been a cool pick, but Pyra/Mythra are many times more popular/recognizable
@@timothyn4699 Thanks for not getting mad like everyone else I have talked to recently. If you really think it’s a good game, I might get it some time. 🙂
I'm so happy that we got a Xenoblade 2 rep in Smash. I can't wait to try them out. Also, those of you guys who've never played Xenoblade Chronicles 2 before, you should try it out. It's a great game like Xenoblade Chronicles 1.
I'd like to add something that you may have missed. The two characters that Mythra was fighting during her final smash was Ike and Joker. Pyra was fighting Ganondorf and Inkling. Later in the Direct, Skyward Sword HD and Splatoon 3 were announced. I'm now wondering if we'll be getting some FE Radiant/Radiance and Persona 5 news soon.
I‘m always happy to see positivity for the two. Personally, I‘m massively hyped, because XC2 is one of my favorite games, and Pyra and Mythra are among my favorite characters from it. Can‘t wait till March!
You actually noticed their ether lines! I knew they were present for the Final Smashes, but hadn't noticed if they were on the Level 3 Specials like in-game. Fun fact, those ether lines are basically their blood vessels, with ether acting as their blood and the Core Crystal as their heart. This is also true for the ether lines on their outfits and weapons.
@@AlexEXE yeah I would say that the “second f smash” is dash attack. And for the move that you couldn’t figure out for Mythra is probably f tilt. And for Pyra side b, I think it’ll kind work like K Rool side b, being that the thrown projectile (K Rool being the Crownerang and Pyra being the Aegis sword) so the sword may be picked up by other characters as an item and it will respawn after a while if thrown, and I’m assuming that with the sword it can be swung like the beam sword. I have a feeling that if this is the case, there is a timer to how long someone else can keep it because, like K Rool, the move that uses the crown, or in Pyra’s case, all of their sword moves, they don’t have access to said move(s). It would be kinda stupid if you could just hold on to the main weapon of a character for the entire game. I’m done wasting your time now, assuming you read this.
Great analysis! What triggers me a little bit is that Pyra and Mythra seem to be in slow-mo in their splash screens (like every other character), but their hair is still moving at normal speed. Just a little thing i noticed
With this reveal, I can already make 2 predictions: 1. Their logo will be the same as Shulk's. 2. The music tracks that they will come with will be added on to the current ones and be available on Gaur Plains, as well as the current tracks being available on their stage. (Similar to how Byleth's music tracks were added on to Castle Siege, Arena Ferox, and Colosseum, and Sephiroth's tracks being added to Midgar. As well as the current ones being available on their stages Garreg Mach Monastery and Northern Cave.)
Ok Sakurai and Nintendo, you guys gave Pyra and especially Mythra a little redesigning and even still added a little "jiggle" to them, so redesigning Shantae should be a piece of cake if she gets in as a fighter. Literally all they would have to do is make it to where her little top shows less cleavage, so now with this even saying Shantae is too spicy to be included as a fighter is not a valid argument at this point. Come on Nintendo you guys know the people want Shantae as a fighter, please make it so.
Pretty sure it was just a prerelease version of them. They do have to make them first before making some final touches. Odds are they are gonna remove it just so people can stop complaining
Prominence revolt is probably something like clouds up special by you have to press the button twice to do the downwards motion and if you just do the up b with 1 press then you probably will go into special fall
I saw a Nia's animation when she try to take a butterfly, This is an animation from the original game and would be great to see Nia and Poppy dance in the background like XB2.
Somewhere out there Mai Shiranuivus crying that she couldn’t even appear as a background character yet Pyra & Mythra are strutting their stuff for all the good boys & girls
I would like a little bit more of a cover up for design for Pyra, since Mythra is prety much fully coverd now, and i think that a good thing, at the end of the day they keept they proportions and over all design so it´s preatty cool
Im the same. I hadn’t been this excited for a new fighter since banjo myself. I didn’t play xenoblade but from the looks of their moveset, it just appeals to me. Watch the trailer in the slowest speed, mythra’s sounds funny af 😂
I think another reference was when Mythra first used her final smash in the trailer. She used it on Ike and Joker with his blue alt. This is probably a reference to when Mythra first awakens and you are fighting Malos and Akhos.
ARMS and Xenoblade Chronicles 2 finally get a character in Smash. It seemed not that long ago where we saw the Springman assist trophy and the Rex Mii costume and thought their chances were gone for potential DLC. Yet... Here we are, ladies and gentlemen. Fighters Pass 2 is basically cleaning up some of the "didn't quite make it in characters". We didn't get Springman, but Min Min for the Win Win... And rip Rex and HELLO two in one waifu Pyra/Mythra. 2 characters remain... I have a good feeling about one of them but... You just never know.
Great video! Can’t wait to play with Pyra and Mythra. They definitely have a good looking move set. Never played Xenoblade, but definitely thinking about it now that they got Pyra and Mythra in smash.
While I don't really play them, stance changing characters like these are one of my favorite archetypes in fighting games because they can do so much interesting stuff if designed well and put in the hands of the right player.
To me, I feel like the switch between pyra and mythra is their air dodge. If you can see on how they dodged link's attack in the air, they were not attacked/damaged. That's only what I think it might be or maybe it might actually be their down-b.
It is likely going to work the same as Pokemon Trainer, just faster probably. If you get attacked playing pokemon trainer you are actually able to switch to avoid getting hit
Everyone's asking if Pyra's blade will come back to her or not and I'm over here like "Bruh, if it DOESN'T come back to her then how is she going to fight?". It literally has to return to her and they just made it look like she was picking it up in the trailer. Otherwise she'll have to have an entire new moveset for unarmed combat without her sword. I don't think they'd do that and not show it off. Edit: I’m assuming it’ll be like how 2B’s weapons disappear when thrown out and then reappear on her back again. For the sake of Smash, I doubt they’d have it return like a boomerang except with no hitbox.
1:42 Based on how Smash attacks work, it looks like it could just be her f-tilt. Comparing it to Smash Flare, it doesn’t seem to have that big white gleam/sparkle that Smash attacks have when you perform one.
1:34, just confirming I’m 99% sure this isn’t a smash attack because all smash attacks have a blue shining star popping out before they are used, this one doesn’t unlike 1:44. So this is either her Dash Attack or F-Tilt
I think Pyra is going to have a fire mechanic where the more hits she lands the more damage and/or knockback her attacks deal. Maybe also changing her smash attacks
It’s so weird to hear people say they’re surprised by their inclusion, I had thought that after Minmin everyone sorta agreed that there would almost definitely be a Xenoblade 2 character. I’m not a fan of Xenoblade at all, but I was looking forward to their move sets, cause I like 2-in-1 characters. Buuuuuuut it’s a huge bummer that they share so many attacks. So I don’t really know how I feel
Thanks for the interest. I made this track when Alex.exe was starting out his channel. I have plans to finish it out and get it uploaded, but it may take awhile with my schedule 🙏🏻
A lot of people have been hatin on Pyra and Mythra getting in but I just think they look really cool and I can’t wait for them to come out so I can play them.
I'm right there with ya! They are gonna be so dang fun.
Yeah they thicc that's why I am going to buy them
They look really cool because of their big...
Attack power.
What? You thought I was gonna say BOO-
@@LaZilla I already got the pass so I don’t need to pay for the Thicc greatness of Pyra and Mythra.
@@bumblebee8903 what wdym I was always assuming you were gonna say attack power there couldn’t be any other reason.There couldn’t be 2 giant round reasons nope.
Smash: we can't have thighs we gotta cover that up
Also Smash: jiggle jiggle jiggle
pyra: a
Nintendo : we ll allow it
snake's ass: hello guys
Nintendo : *so youve chosen death*
Lypuff!
LOL
Did they make special jiggle physics for Pyra and Mythra cause if they did then I’m proud of Sakurai and the team for making Jiggle Physics.
Well boobs jiggle in real life too... That's how it is. Why should it have a sexual connotation
if Mythra's F-Smash is the same as Pyra's, then the 2nd attack we saw earlier must be her Dash Attack (think of it as Ike's dash attack)
This is exactly what I think. Plus, you don't see the little sparkle that indicates it's a smash attack and there's a bit of dust that flies up behind her. It really looks like a dash attack..
Gramps stage in omega form
Oh no, now we know why pokefloat does’t exist.
Pain
all jokes aside, i think the omega form would just be gramps floating in the background as you fight on a platform, while pokefloats would be a bunch of pokemon with their corpses crunched up together to make a stage.
@@youtubecat3809 I think you might be correct for the omega form because of some stages having this work around when switching to omega and battlefield. Two examples I can think of that work around to making these forms are the Minecraft stage and Mario Bros. stage, the original stage becomes part of the background behind this new stage form with textures still specific to the stage. If Pokéfloats were in the game, it'd likely use this work around for omega and battlefield forms.
@@WahooMario naw poke floats would be floating poke corpses /s
I missed that intro so much!!!
and voice
It's been three days what
IMO the “weak f smash” looks like a dash attack, I think she does a lil Dash at the start
Yeah. It looks like an instant dash attack.
You're probably right!
ikr
Either a dash attack or a forward tilt, definitely
Mythra combo, air dodge read, Pyra kill move. They're top tier.
you don’t even know how the characters will play how can you say they are top tier
@@Vivythebadgirl You don't have to take my word as law. I'm just guessing they'll be good.
@@Vivythebadgirl minecraft steven
@@jammedyam3389 yeah the mid tier
I mean pokemon trailer is evidence that they wont
I've got to say, after seeing this analysis, I'm even more excited for Pyra and Mythra's inclusion as fighters than I was before. Great job Alex
The music used just before the out to brought a tear to my eye. The memories still remain.😔
Ohhh yes, that was a very intentional song pick. :)
HANDLING A MAN'S TURTLE
This video was worth the wait
This is one well made in depth moveset right here. I'm so excited to play as them once they come out!
I love xenoblade chronicles, all we're missing is Elma
As cool as Elma is and having both fuel swords and duel guns would be I'd actually rather have Lin.
Going into the game I didn't expect much of her but she quickly became my favorite character in the game.
That and her weapons are pretty cool and it's be interesting to see a moveset in Smash made more around defense than offense.
I really hope we don’t get another Xenoblade character. I just don’t care for that game and the characters aren’t interesting.
@@lucaspoirier9407 The character design may've been the worst looking aspect of XCX, but the combat and world was great. I thought Elma would've been a cool pick, but Pyra/Mythra are many times more popular/recognizable
@@timothyn4699 Thanks for not getting mad like everyone else I have talked to recently. If you really think it’s a good game, I might get it some time. 🙂
I love how their animations are the same as how they are portrayed in their games. They are very acrobatic fighters that spin around a lot.
Which is exactly why their outfits are skimpy. Finally someone gets it. Real life acrobats can't perform in a trenchcoat. XD
Xenoblade chronicles 2 was my favorite switch game. Pyra/Mythra release is awesome. After Sephiroth she will be my second main.
wow this is the best analysis I have seen. Great work!!
Thank you!!
at last, a video that covers all the elements of the trailer and not just the moveset.
Agree
I'm so happy that we got a Xenoblade 2 rep in Smash. I can't wait to try them out. Also, those of you guys who've never played Xenoblade Chronicles 2 before, you should try it out. It's a great game like Xenoblade Chronicles 1.
I definitely want to play XB 2 but I have to wait til I have the cash to buy it, plus I've barely scratched the surface of XB 1 lol
@@RainxYue That's ok. Hopefully you'll enjoy it when you save up money. Best of luck to you.
I'd like to add something that you may have missed. The two characters that Mythra was fighting during her final smash was Ike and Joker. Pyra was fighting Ganondorf and Inkling. Later in the Direct, Skyward Sword HD and Splatoon 3 were announced. I'm now wondering if we'll be getting some FE Radiant/Radiance and Persona 5 news soon.
As an extra side note, Ike was using his more muscular adult skin, while Ganondorf was using his white(?) skin.
I‘m always happy to see positivity for the two. Personally, I‘m massively hyped, because XC2 is one of my favorite games, and Pyra and Mythra are among my favorite characters from it. Can‘t wait till March!
Your into is the best one I’ve seen in a year
Also the “extra smash attack” is probably side tilt
God I can’t wait for these two
I was so early that i literally couldn't comment
Holy *jigglypuff noise that sounds like yhe f word... the one who isn't homophobic*
Thx for the heart :)
@@Liliana_the_ghost_cat Holy *pawf*
@@conic2721 exact
@@conic2721 that one
You actually noticed their ether lines! I knew they were present for the Final Smashes, but hadn't noticed if they were on the Level 3 Specials like in-game. Fun fact, those ether lines are basically their blood vessels, with ether acting as their blood and the Core Crystal as their heart. This is also true for the ether lines on their outfits and weapons.
The tree from Dragon Quest stage is a reference to Elysium and where Pyra and Rex first met.
Something tells me that people are gonna spam flame nova, photon edge and chroma dust
Chroma dust sounds like corona dust
The new Kirby up b.
@@fin2510 it'll depend on the startup, but considering that she is dlc i think that will be spamable too
@@andresmiltongutierrezorteg2764 yeah, hopefully the 12 year olds who'll spam it won't be able to buy it.
Just like in the original game. *looks at my fully maxed out affinity chart of Mythra with crit items*.
I’m so excited for these two as a big Xenoblade fan. I really hope we get the Torna battle theme as part of the song list.
There has to be at least one
I'm about 98% sure that the mystery weak fsmash that confused you was just a dash attack
Or an F-tilt
Or a dash attack
I do believe you're all right about that! Just a goof on my end lol.
@@AlexEXE yeah I would say that the “second f smash” is dash attack. And for the move that you couldn’t figure out for Mythra is probably f tilt. And for Pyra side b, I think it’ll kind work like K Rool side b, being that the thrown projectile (K Rool being the Crownerang and Pyra being the Aegis sword) so the sword may be picked up by other characters as an item and it will respawn after a while if thrown, and I’m assuming that with the sword it can be swung like the beam sword. I have a feeling that if this is the case, there is a timer to how long someone else can keep it because, like K Rool, the move that uses the crown, or in Pyra’s case, all of their sword moves, they don’t have access to said move(s). It would be kinda stupid if you could just hold on to the main weapon of a character for the entire game. I’m done wasting your time now, assuming you read this.
Great analysis! What triggers me a little bit is that Pyra and Mythra seem to be in slow-mo in their splash screens (like every other character), but their hair is still moving at normal speed. Just a little thing i noticed
Thanks! I somehow did not notice that - you're right, that's a little strange lol.
Very nice video! I'm so hyped for the release! :D
With this reveal, I can already make 2 predictions:
1. Their logo will be the same as Shulk's.
2. The music tracks that they will come with will be added on to the current ones and be available on Gaur Plains, as well as the current tracks being available on their stage. (Similar to how Byleth's music tracks were added on to Castle Siege, Arena Ferox, and Colosseum, and Sephiroth's tracks being added to Midgar. As well as the current ones being available on their stages Garreg Mach Monastery and Northern Cave.)
That is obvious,why a character would have a different logo than another from the same series and be xo sidered different
I mean your first “prediction” isnt even a prediction lol. Its just confirmed look at the smash bros website
@@sirmonke4243 Don't worry. I already knew that was going to be the case. Not that I'm surprised.
I'm so excited for Pyra and Mythra, I had the same energy when Joker came out.
Thank you for pointing out the booba Alex, very cool
Ok Sakurai and Nintendo, you guys gave Pyra and especially Mythra a little redesigning and even still added a little "jiggle" to them, so redesigning Shantae should be a piece of cake if she gets in as a fighter. Literally all they would have to do is make it to where her little top shows less cleavage, so now with this even saying Shantae is too spicy to be included as a fighter is not a valid argument at this point. Come on Nintendo you guys know the people want Shantae as a fighter, please make it so.
Pretty sure it was just a prerelease version of them. They do have to make them first before making some final touches. Odds are they are gonna remove it just so people can stop complaining
@@yankee1147 I doubt it
Prominence revolt is probably something like clouds up special by you have to press the button twice to do the downwards motion and if you just do the up b with 1 press then you probably will go into special fall
Here it is. The closest thing we'll ever get to Cecil Harvey in smash.
Thanks this is so helpful for mastering pyra and mytra early
I saw a Nia's animation when she try to take a butterfly, This is an animation from the original game and would be great to see Nia and Poppy dance in the background like XB2.
I usually don't look at fighter's trailer analysis but I'm goad I did in this case
Somewhere out there Mai Shiranuivus crying that she couldn’t even appear as a background character yet Pyra & Mythra are strutting their stuff for all the good boys & girls
time for my daily innuendo
a deep dive into pyra
I haven't been this excited for a character. Period.
Both of the attacks you're unsure of are their Dash attacks. you can notice their movement ending very similarly to many swordie attacks from FE.
Great breakdown!! It was very smoothly presented.
1:33 forward tilt he was talking about her forward smash and it just took too long for him to say it but i would imagine thats the forward tilt
The best fighters in smash bros history.
No no no, Sonic is. Also hold your breath for more characters :)
Daring today, are we?
How can you say something so controversial yet so brave?
I mean, we're all has opinion too, i prefer Steve tho.
Supr Maro
I would like a little bit more of a cover up for design for Pyra, since Mythra is prety much fully coverd now, and i think that a good thing, at the end of the day they keept they proportions and over all design so it´s preatty cool
Amazing video very faithful comparsion to the game.
Im the same. I hadn’t been this excited for a new fighter since banjo myself. I didn’t play xenoblade but from the looks of their moveset, it just appeals to me. Watch the trailer in the slowest speed, mythra’s sounds funny af 😂
I think another reference was when Mythra first used her final smash in the trailer. She used it on Ike and Joker with his blue alt. This is probably a reference to when Mythra first awakens and you are fighting Malos and Akhos.
1:34 definitely dash attack
alright, we got XenoBlade Ready to go, you know whats next
*Either Geno or Sora next, lets go*
ARMS and Xenoblade Chronicles 2 finally get a character in Smash. It seemed not that long ago where we saw the Springman assist trophy and the Rex Mii costume and thought their chances were gone for potential DLC.
Yet... Here we are, ladies and gentlemen. Fighters Pass 2 is basically cleaning up some of the "didn't quite make it in characters". We didn't get Springman, but Min Min for the Win Win... And rip Rex and HELLO two in one waifu Pyra/Mythra.
2 characters remain... I have a good feeling about one of them but... You just never know.
7:07 i think its dash attack since you can see smoke indicating the attack had movement
Great video! Can’t wait to play with Pyra and Mythra. They definitely have a good looking move set. Never played Xenoblade, but definitely thinking about it now that they got Pyra and Mythra in smash.
While I don't really play them, stance changing characters like these are one of my favorite archetypes in fighting games because they can do so much interesting stuff if designed well and put in the hands of the right player.
To me, I feel like the switch between pyra and mythra is their air dodge. If you can see on how they dodged link's attack in the air, they were not attacked/damaged. That's only what I think it might be or maybe it might actually be their down-b.
It is likely going to work the same as Pokemon Trainer, just faster probably. If you get attacked playing pokemon trainer you are actually able to switch to avoid getting hit
the up b is like cloud strife's
I was thinking the same thing
Lesss goooo! we take those.
Finally someone who actually paid attention and didn't just slap foresight onto down b as a counter and say they switch with shield special.
Everyone's asking if Pyra's blade will come back to her or not and I'm over here like "Bruh, if it DOESN'T come back to her then how is she going to fight?". It literally has to return to her and they just made it look like she was picking it up in the trailer. Otherwise she'll have to have an entire new moveset for unarmed combat without her sword. I don't think they'd do that and not show it off.
Edit: I’m assuming it’ll be like how 2B’s weapons disappear when thrown out and then reappear on her back again. For the sake of Smash, I doubt they’d have it return like a boomerang except with no hitbox.
Oh, I agree with you!
Someone mentioned Pyra should be a heavy character as it's canonically be correct. That'd be great / funny attention to details if they did that
1:42 Based on how Smash attacks work, it looks like it could just be her f-tilt. Comparing it to Smash Flare, it doesn’t seem to have that big white gleam/sparkle that Smash attacks have when you perform one.
1:34, just confirming I’m 99% sure this isn’t a smash attack because all smash attacks have a blue shining star popping out before they are used, this one doesn’t unlike 1:44. So this is either her Dash Attack or F-Tilt
Look at her feet after the attack. Definitely a dash attack.
@@selendile030 definitely the dash attack
love this kind of videos, nice job bro
this is like Ganon and captain falcon in a brawl
I’m so excited for the both of them to come to smash, they look really fun!
I think it is a forward tilt. Yes it glows, but I think it glows because the sword is igniting.
I think Pyra is going to have a fire mechanic where the more hits she lands the more damage and/or knockback her attacks deal. Maybe also changing her smash attacks
Yay perfect Just what we needed
JIGGLE PSYCHICS😤😒
1:33 Dash attack, maybe?
1:33 Looks like a dash attack.
WE DID IT BOYS
THE AEGIS IS IN
Sakurai: smash is for good boys and girls
Everyone: pauses at 2:03
I'd buy them as DLC, but I don't want my dad to do the "Are ya winning son?" on me...
1:41 I think that might be the dash attack
Anther interesting thing to note is that they also censored Bridgid's chest in her stage appearance.
Also Mythras hip has a tiny bit of skin showing that they censored in the smash version
The one after the f-smash is het dash attack
Wrong its f-tilt
1:45 looks like a dash attack
1:55 It's forward tilt. The flash comes from the sword turning on. It's just very slow.
WE BETTER GET THE URAYA THEME I SWEAR
It’s so weird to hear people say they’re surprised by their inclusion, I had thought that after Minmin everyone sorta agreed that there would almost definitely be a Xenoblade 2 character. I’m not a fan of Xenoblade at all, but I was looking forward to their move sets, cause I like 2-in-1 characters. Buuuuuuut it’s a huge bummer that they share so many attacks. So I don’t really know how I feel
Blame the smash speculation scene
Imagine the combos
maybe they gonna have bars
I think foresight is a directional dash
Think fox shine but it goes a very short distance and mythra is completely invincible for the beginning frames
GREAT video
Pls upload your intro as a song or something i need this !!!!
I will talk to my friend about doing that!
@@AlexEXE thank you
Thanks for the interest. I made this track when Alex.exe was starting out his channel. I have plans to finish it out and get it uploaded, but it may take awhile with my schedule 🙏🏻
Why does she have longer range than sephiroth with that sword
Because she is the sword. Look it up, her official species is "blade".
I know the other day I said vile as my choice, but this is insane and I didn’t think they’d get in
The hand thing was from cooking if I'm not wrong
Soon there'll be one of these videos for me
Wah gang
Done mah research
Can't wait to play this character
Nice and yes should be a good character. My guess is the recovery will be pretty eh.
What if mugman got in smash and trailer well look like pyras reavel
Her neutral air reminds me a lot of Ike's or Corrin's neutral air, and might have similar combo potential judging by its angle
rex the chad just happy to be here for his wives
1:53 I think is dash attack, look at her feet
U were right about a shit ton of stuff
12:11 *Wait?! Graaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaa...*
"buuut let's just move on.."
Should we tho?
Simps
Great analysis video