Better yet,I've got the original HD 600 ( 1997 ) they still look like new (hard to find) Even older are mine Beyer dynamics DT 931 (1993) they also look and sound wonderful .Better bass and treble also very open .(very hard to find ). I don't know about the "new kid on the block "HD 560s .But the 6XX and 6 above !? (new type aren't as good as the old ones )
agreed. I think theres an problem with judging these two headphones without driving them with ample closed loop power supply. The 650s shine when being powered nicely by a decent amp/dac. you shouldnt have to crank the volume to max. i dont push mine past the 3 o clock position. usually sit between the 10 & 2 o clock position on my amp.
i really like the clear explaination betwwen 150 and 300 ohm! i was so curious about what that was mean. Amazing video. Now i am clear about these S-HD headphones.I am going with HD660s now, placing order. Thank you Mr. Mark for your great video.
I feel exactly the same with my HD 650 and 660S , For bad recodings i use mostly HD 650 this veil help a lot . But HD 660 are my way to go in anything else the most important was the speed , imaging and separation that i can Blind fold hear every time on these HD 660s.
I have a lot of Headphones but i always go back to HD660s , the reason is that HD660s are not perfect on something like over 1.000 euro headphones are ...But they are good on everything . They have some warmth , they have clarity , they have smoothness, they are fast , they have separation,they have imaging, they are light , they are comfy , They are just 90% good on everything... For example Focal Clears or some planars are faster but lose on something else. None of them are good on everything.
@@markkilianschannel by the way u are the only one trully understand how a headphone sounds ... And that is passed easy to your viewer's. I wish u do more headphone reviews , trust me u arw better than most of them. I am a headphone collector and i cant find reviewer's that can describe sound like u do.
After getting quite frustrated because the L and R marking on the cans is not white but rather black - so hard to see in bad light, I am thrilled to find that there is a brail marking for the L side so now it's easy to 'see' in the dark!
Yeahp old ones have the dots outside the new ones have the dots in front... Always on the L channel . Personally i love theae dots becausenu dont need to see anything just touch the dots ans u know its the left side. A tip... Never change the original pads from Sennheiser honestly i have 1 set of original sennheiser pads not opened just in case.
150ohms doesn’t mean less requirement on power compared to the 300ohms. It is just that the 150ohms headphones will need more current and less voltage to sound good. While the 300ohms headphones will need less current and more voltage. Yes the sensitivity of headphone plays a important role as well
Are they muffled in low end? I’m coming from Sony 7506. After 20 years. Looking for headphones that get me closer to a nice that’s translate everywhere
A well driven HD6xx or 650 is amazing in its own way, almost a different flavor. Both are amazing but the WARMTH from the 6xx/650 is my personal preference.
I have used a lot of headphones, and I can say that the 650's are the most comfy pair of headphones that I will never sell. Not the best headphone, but the most comfortable and not bad sounding. Nice on tubes. Get yourself a headphone amp and dac before reviewing headphones dude.
Um, Dude, I'm reviewing the headphones. Not the amp. For my use of them. Not for how someone else might use them. Judge all you like but having a great amp doesn't make your music and mixes better. That's why the world of audiophile equipment is so vastly different to the world of pro audio equipment. And, this might surprise many, a lot of us who make music use very 'un-fancy' equipment to do so.
@@markkilianschannel AMPs/DACs unlock the full potential some headphones. You can't truly review these headphones without giving them enough power. It's not a test of the AMP if the AMP doesn't change the sound of the headphone and only amplifies it. I enjoyed the review, nonetheless.
Thanks for the video! I have my HD650 for 6/7 years now, and they are just fantastic! paired them with an external Sound Blaster DAC/AMP, and does the trick pretty well. I will receive the 660s tomorrow, and curious what the difference is between my HD650 and if they are a keeper. Also received the beyerdynamic dt 1990 pro as a possible replacement for my HD650 after reading good reviews, but they were quite disappointing for me. First of all, wearing comfort is pretty bad. Maybe its because they are brand new, but I feel like they are really clamped on my head, and the HD650 is not noticeable at all. Swapping the earpads is a horrible job, and they just didnt sound right for me. Very 'sharp', and I am not talking about treble. Almost annoying at some tracks. But then strangely enough also sometimes very hollow and lacking in detail when gaming. So pretty much the opposite experience as what most users have. Seems that audio is subjective after all. :) Anyway, looking forward to tomorrow to see if the HD660s is a keeper instead of the HD650.
660 seemed slightlllyyyy better but not sure if I would be able to hear it in a blind test to be honest. Not worth of a price difference so returned them as well.
Looking at the frequency response charts the 660S appears to be darker than the 650 (less treble) and is hollowed out compared to the 600/650 (lacking mids)... I'm trying to be kind to the 660S, but I think you made the right choice in returning them if these measurements are to be trusted, haha. Personally, I think the Sundara 2020's with EQ are amazing (BUT, if you have bigger ears they are less comfortable than the HD500/600 series).
I am comparing the 690 vs 650. The 650 I fee doesn’t naturally reproduce the intended soundstage and imaging rather it just imparts it’s own thing. Vocals on the 600 are more more balanced than on the 650. The 650 makes the forwards sound farther away, just about every song has the music louder than the vocals, which isn’t usually the right representation of the mix. Also the mid frequencies are a bit darker on the 650 and alter the tone of a song a bit. This is quickly noticeable on mid heavy genres like rock. The soundstage is wider but maybe a lil too wide in that it may make you think you are mixing things wider than what they will translate in other systems or conversely, make you feel something is mixed tight, yet it’s too tight on other systems and headphones without enough space . One quick example of the mids on the 650 is the end of dumpweed by blink 182 where there is a main guitar riff playing over or a side to a rhythm guitar with crunchy palm mutes. On the 650 the main riff is isolated too much and it sounds big and you can easily hear the reverb trails yet the palm muted guitar has less attack than it’s supposed to and is too recessed. On the 600 both guitars are more evenly balanced and the rhythm guitar has more presence because of its attack and crunch. You cannot hear the reverb as easily on the main riff not is it as isolated, but that’s how it sounds on just about everything and the song is glued together a bit more naturally. The 650 can make you feel more engulfed in the song but it adds a bit too much low end that alters tone, pushes the center a bit too far and does slightly off things with imaging . I haven’t heard the 660s but it seems they are even farther from the 600s so I feel probably even less flat and accurate in terms of frequencies and imaging. I’d like a slightly wider soundstage on the 600, but less wide than the 650. Just a tad wider . But overall the 600 simply does a better job all around I find. Any detail of individual tracks is easily focused on when working on that track, I can’t say the soundstage takes away from anything but in the 650 I’d say it’s not as accurate. Iv heard the 660 is even wider so I’d say even less accurate . I think the 6xx is less v shaped than the 660 , might be the next best thing to the 600 but as of now the 600 seem like a very solid choice
I'm pretty rough on headphones, but the only thing I've replaced on my 11 years old HD600's are the headband and earpads. Other phones I've owned hardly last a couple of years. BTW the 600 is a better reference phone than the 650!
Hi Mark, great interesting video, I recently got the 660 s for £259, as the s2 been out fir few months , I tend to use 660 straight onto the ifi zen dad v2 using the balanced 4.4mm pentergon lead with the true bass button selected and does come alive at the lowe frequency end. However if have the 6XX also but now fitted with custom cabs mod which also help with the lower bass end. I know that 6XX and 650 not quite the same but the custom cans mod can also be fitted to 650 too. Regards Mark
i've been looking to upgrade from my gaming headset (corsair void elite) to a more "performance" headphone, and got stuck between (DENON AH-D5200) and (sennheiser HD600). i felt like the sennheiser was the better choice but i don't want to research and buy an amp/dac. this made me choose the HD660s. thanks a bunch
Nice and concise presentation.. ty. If possible, unless you’ve done so, how about a short follow up review to this particular review. Glad I found your channel.
I’ve been looking for “daignostic” headphones so that I can accurately remove noises or artifacts during editing and shape the sound just right in as neutral a manner as possible. How someone subsequently listens to the finished result is ultimately up to their headphones or speakers and EQ adjustments. I don’t want my headphones to “improve” the sound in any way or hide the flaws. I bought the Byerdynamic DT 990 Pro, which completely missed nearly all of the subtle noises and artifacts in the raw recordings. I was shocked at how awful the final result was when I listened to it on ordinary consumer earpods. So now I’ve ordered the HD 650 headphones, which I believe let me hear the audio as it is. I even considered the much more expensive Neumanns, but looking at the frequency response profile, they also seemed to want to “improve” the sound in various ways. What I can’t understand it that if a manufacturer touts their product as “reference`’ or “editing” headphones, why doin;t they just do what it says on the tin?
@@Martin-lw8qb The HD650 headphones are fantastic! Very good for "diagnostic" audio editing (and possibly monitoring if you're in a different room). The DT990 are a pleasure for "audiophile" listening, but no good for editing. In fact, I wouldn't use the HD650 for general, pleasurable listening: they are too accurate and you'll hear every glitch and artifact. BTW, I recommend the Fosi DAC-05 to boost the signal if you get the 250Ω version.
thats a kiwi accent alright , loved the review would love some more comparisons if you get hands on other studio classics like beyerdynamic dt880 pro , akg k702/712.
For mixing and coming from Sony 7506 which would you recommend that gets you closer to a mix that works on numerous devices? My fear is I’m going to hear a muffled sound on I coming from Sonys. Curious about Slate VSX
Well either the 650 or 660's would be a significant upgrade from your Sony's. But as I said in the video what's more important is how well you know the phones you're mixing on then the phones themselves. If you're happy with the mixes you're getting from the Sony's then stick to them. But when I compare my mixes on the Sennheisers and the Sony's the Sony's are much further away from what I want to hear. Those Sony's are great for in-studio work but I wouldn't mix or master with them myself.
@@markkilianschannel tuck you for the reply I’ve heard they they are a bit dark. Which of the two are more pushed in the hi end? Would an Apollo twin power them sufficiently? Thanks
@@ST-fl5fy Well I wouldn't call them dark. They're just more neutral and not pushed in the high end like so many are. Of the 2 the 650's I find a little more pronounced in the high end. But you'll get a little less volume out of the 650's compared to the 660's. However, that's not a problem with the Apollo as they'll drive the 650's beautifully.
I am so sorry about this comment even before I post it. @10:52 I could NOT help myself thinking of Alan Partridge saying "Full Beam!" Maybe I am a bit stoned.
Well I can't speak for those models so can't compare. But the 650's will basically be timeless. The have to gadgetry to age them. They just do what they do well, reliably and seemingly forever.
The extra cable with 4.4 mm plug is for amplifier with balanced design. It is not for iPhone. I find the balanced connection with HD660s gives much better sound plus volume
@@brianliu522 & as a plus; that same balanced pentaconn cable that came with your HD 660s can be attached to your HD 650 & HD 600 headphones since the connectors are the same.
I haven’t heard the 650’s, but you are spot-on about the 660’s which has me in a tenzy because I feel that the 660’s are too separated in the soundstage, which takes away from the musicality of what I’m listening to...660’s would be excellent for music production work , but I don’t know if I could use the 660’s to listen to and enjoy music...The amount of separation of the instruments takes away from the cohesiveness of the overall soundstage of the instruments, which causes a distraction to the listening experience. IMHO....I just got them and going to give them a little more time, but I don’t know if I can get used to this.😂😂
Might be due to the fact that he is in his 50's or at least late 40's. His ears might not have the same high frequency content they had when he was younger so he over boosts the high frequencies when he EQ's. It could also be the mic and the room but that would be mitigated by the post processing so it's either the ears or a combination of all those factors. Or maybe he has the ears of a 20 year old and I don't know what I'm talking about 😂
Good review brother. I need them for gaming, would HD660s do? If yes, do you recommend any small amp to use on the tv or on the controller (jack)? I wanted something plug-and-play but people say that these headphones only shine with an amp.
Hey James. I usually just use these going right out of the laptop, but when I do use an amp it’s the Apogee Duet 2. Do they sound better with the headphone amp? Well yes, but the difference is not massive. For gaming the other thing to take into account is that these are open back headphones and so not only will you hear sounds from your environment, but your headphones will also be quite loud for someone else in the room. That may not be an issue for you but it’s something to take into account.
Another great vid Mark! I think that extra 4.4mm Pentaconn male TRRRS connector cable you get with the HD660s is "optimally matched" to the Sennheiser HDV 820 headphone amplifier, not for an iPhone. PS - does this mean I can have the MH-40s you casually tossed out of shot? 😱
I can say this, if you ever hear a real headphone, this one is not touch ears anymore. Don't listen any reviewers how good or bad, listen it yourself, then listen airpods pro (or max), and decide give it 600$ or keep it.
5:50 for sound
Thanks
As a note from a HD 650 user, I've had mine for 10 years and I bought them used. They will absolutely last you a lifetime.
Better yet,I've got the original HD 600 ( 1997 ) they still look like new (hard to find) Even older are mine Beyer dynamics DT 931 (1993) they also look and sound wonderful .Better bass and treble also very open .(very hard to find ).
I don't know about the "new kid on the block "HD 560s .But the 6XX and 6 above !? (new type aren't as good as the old ones )
Yup, had mine 8 years, third set of earpads, second headband and a balanced XLR cable later they're better than ever.
agreed. I think theres an problem with judging these two headphones without driving them with ample closed loop power supply. The 650s shine when being powered nicely by a decent amp/dac. you shouldnt have to crank the volume to max. i dont push mine past the 3 o clock position. usually sit between the 10 & 2 o clock position on my amp.
i really like the clear explaination betwwen 150 and 300 ohm! i was so curious about what that was mean. Amazing video. Now i am clear about these S-HD headphones.I am going with HD660s now, placing order.
Thank you Mr. Mark for your great video.
I feel exactly the same with my HD 650 and 660S , For bad recodings i use mostly HD 650 this veil help a lot . But HD 660 are my way to go in anything else the most important was the speed , imaging and separation that i can Blind fold hear every time on these HD 660s.
I have a lot of Headphones but i always go back to HD660s , the reason is that HD660s are not perfect on something like over 1.000 euro headphones are ...But they are good on everything . They have some warmth , they have clarity , they have smoothness, they are fast , they have separation,they have imaging, they are light , they are comfy , They are just 90% good on everything... For example Focal Clears or some planars are faster but lose on something else. None of them are good on everything.
Totally agree. It’s like the Swiss Army knife of headphones. I think my mixes are improving because of them.
@@markkilianschannel by the way u are the only one trully understand how a headphone sounds ... And that is passed easy to your viewer's. I wish u do more headphone reviews , trust me u arw better than most of them. I am a headphone collector and i cant find reviewer's that can describe sound like u do.
After getting quite frustrated because the L and R marking on the cans is not white but rather black - so hard to see in bad light, I am thrilled to find that there is a brail marking for the L side so now it's easy to 'see' in the dark!
Yeahp old ones have the dots outside the new ones have the dots in front... Always on the L channel . Personally i love theae dots becausenu dont need to see anything just touch the dots ans u know its the left side.
A tip... Never change the original pads from Sennheiser honestly i have 1 set of original sennheiser pads not opened just in case.
150ohms doesn’t mean less requirement on power compared to the 300ohms. It is just that the 150ohms headphones will need more current and less voltage to sound good. While the 300ohms headphones will need less current and more voltage. Yes the sensitivity of headphone plays a important role as well
The 650’s are still my favorite open backs to mix music in. They translate to other sound sources extremely well. They’re honest cans.
Are they muffled in low end? I’m coming from Sony 7506. After 20 years. Looking for headphones that get me closer to a nice that’s translate everywhere
@@ST-fl5fy not muffled but pronounced for sure. They have more bass response than my DT 770 Pro 250ohms.
Thanks a lot for your informed takes on these, Mark. Much appreciated.
I ve used HD650 for years. They are practically indestructible in normal usage. They give a sense of presence on professional gear... but darkish;)
A well driven HD6xx or 650 is amazing in its own way, almost a different flavor. Both are amazing but the WARMTH from the 6xx/650 is my personal preference.
Yes, I love my HD660S very much ....
I have used a lot of headphones, and I can say that the 650's are the most comfy pair of headphones that I will never sell. Not the best headphone, but the most comfortable and not bad sounding. Nice on tubes. Get yourself a headphone amp and dac before reviewing headphones dude.
Um, Dude, I'm reviewing the headphones. Not the amp. For my use of them. Not for how someone else might use them. Judge all you like but having a great amp doesn't make your music and mixes better. That's why the world of audiophile equipment is so vastly different to the world of pro audio equipment. And, this might surprise many, a lot of us who make music use very 'un-fancy' equipment to do so.
@@markkilianschannel AMPs/DACs unlock the full potential some headphones. You can't truly review these headphones without giving them enough power. It's not a test of the AMP if the AMP doesn't change the sound of the headphone and only amplifies it. I enjoyed the review, nonetheless.
Thanks for the video! I have my HD650 for 6/7 years now, and they are just fantastic! paired them with an external Sound Blaster DAC/AMP, and does the trick pretty well. I will receive the 660s tomorrow, and curious what the difference is between my HD650 and if they are a keeper. Also received the beyerdynamic dt 1990 pro as a possible replacement for my HD650 after reading good reviews, but they were quite disappointing for me. First of all, wearing comfort is pretty bad. Maybe its because they are brand new, but I feel like they are really clamped on my head, and the HD650 is not noticeable at all. Swapping the earpads is a horrible job, and they just didnt sound right for me. Very 'sharp', and I am not talking about treble. Almost annoying at some tracks. But then strangely enough also sometimes very hollow and lacking in detail when gaming. So pretty much the opposite experience as what most users have. Seems that audio is subjective after all. :) Anyway, looking forward to tomorrow to see if the HD660s is a keeper instead of the HD650.
Great! Please let me know what you think.
Did you ended up keeping the 660s ?
Do you prefer the 660s or 650s
660 seemed slightlllyyyy better but not sure if I would be able to hear it in a blind test to be honest. Not worth of a price difference so returned them as well.
Looking at the frequency response charts the 660S appears to be darker than the 650 (less treble) and is hollowed out compared to the 600/650 (lacking mids)...
I'm trying to be kind to the 660S, but I think you made the right choice in returning them if these measurements are to be trusted, haha.
Personally, I think the Sundara 2020's with EQ are amazing (BUT, if you have bigger ears they are less comfortable than the HD500/600 series).
I am comparing the 690 vs 650. The 650 I fee doesn’t naturally reproduce the intended soundstage and imaging rather it just imparts it’s own thing.
Vocals on the 600 are more more balanced than on the 650. The 650 makes the forwards sound farther away, just about every song has the music louder than the vocals, which isn’t usually the right representation of the mix.
Also the mid frequencies are a bit darker on the 650 and alter the tone of a song a bit. This is quickly noticeable on mid heavy genres like rock.
The soundstage is wider but maybe a lil too wide in that it may make you think you are mixing things wider than what they will translate in other systems or conversely, make you feel something is mixed tight, yet it’s too tight on other systems and headphones without enough space .
One quick example of the mids on the 650 is the end of dumpweed by blink 182 where there is a main guitar riff playing over or a side to a rhythm guitar with crunchy palm mutes. On the 650 the main riff is isolated too much and it sounds big and you can easily hear the reverb trails yet the palm muted guitar has less attack than it’s supposed to and is too recessed. On the 600 both guitars are more evenly balanced and the rhythm guitar has more presence because of its attack and crunch. You cannot hear the reverb as easily on the main riff not is it as isolated, but that’s how it sounds on just about everything and the song is glued together a bit more naturally. The 650 can make you feel more engulfed in the song but it adds a bit too much low end that alters tone, pushes the center a bit too far and does slightly off things with imaging . I haven’t heard the 660s but it seems they are even farther from the 600s so I feel probably even less flat and accurate in terms of frequencies and imaging.
I’d like a slightly wider soundstage on the 600, but less wide than the 650. Just a tad wider . But overall the 600 simply does a better job all around I find. Any detail of individual tracks is easily focused on when working on that track, I can’t say the soundstage takes away from anything but in the 650 I’d say it’s not as accurate. Iv heard the 660 is even wider so I’d say even less accurate .
I think the 6xx is less v shaped than the 660 , might be the next best thing to the 600 but as of now the 600 seem like a very solid choice
Thank yo my man.. Great comparison! I think I'll go for 660s also. cheers!
You won’t regret it!!
I'm pretty rough on headphones, but the only thing I've replaced on my 11 years old HD600's are the headband and earpads. Other phones I've owned hardly last a couple of years. BTW the 600 is a better reference phone than the 650!
Hi Mark, great interesting video, I recently got the 660 s for £259, as the s2 been out fir few months , I tend to use 660 straight onto the ifi zen dad v2 using the balanced 4.4mm pentergon lead with the true bass button selected and does come alive at the lowe frequency end. However if have the 6XX also but now fitted with custom cabs mod which also help with the lower bass end. I know that 6XX and 650 not quite the same but the custom cans mod can also be fitted to 650 too. Regards Mark
Very nice comparison man👏👏👏👏👏👏
Cheers!
i've been looking to upgrade from my gaming headset (corsair void elite) to a more "performance" headphone, and got stuck between (DENON
AH-D5200) and (sennheiser HD600). i felt like the sennheiser was the better choice but i don't want to research and buy an amp/dac. this made me choose the HD660s. thanks a bunch
Nice and concise presentation.. ty. If possible, unless you’ve done so, how about a short follow up review to this particular review. Glad I found your channel.
I’ve been looking for “daignostic” headphones so that I can accurately remove noises or artifacts during editing and shape the sound just right in as neutral a manner as possible. How someone subsequently listens to the finished result is ultimately up to their headphones or speakers and EQ adjustments. I don’t want my headphones to “improve” the sound in any way or hide the flaws.
I bought the Byerdynamic DT 990 Pro, which completely missed nearly all of the subtle noises and artifacts in the raw recordings. I was shocked at how awful the final result was when I listened to it on ordinary consumer earpods. So now I’ve ordered the HD 650 headphones, which I believe let me hear the audio as it is. I even considered the much more expensive Neumanns, but looking at the frequency response profile, they also seemed to want to “improve” the sound in various ways.
What I can’t understand it that if a manufacturer touts their product as “reference`’ or “editing” headphones, why doin;t they just do what it says on the tin?
Totally agree!!! Please let me know what you think of the 650’s once you’ve had them a while.
so how are the 650s compared to the 990 pro‘s ?
@@Martin-lw8qb The HD650 headphones are fantastic! Very good for "diagnostic" audio editing (and possibly monitoring if you're in a different room).
The DT990 are a pleasure for "audiophile" listening, but no good for editing.
In fact, I wouldn't use the HD650 for general, pleasurable listening: they are too accurate and you'll hear every glitch and artifact.
BTW, I recommend the Fosi DAC-05 to boost the signal if you get the 250Ω version.
The way you explained open vs closed made so much sense, good work
The... The temptation is so great. The urge to purchase has never been greater!
So that's all I needed to chose. I went for the 660s 🎧 👍
Thanks. Great video
thanks, enjoyed the review. I am currently choosing between the hd660s and Grado rs1e. I'm beginning to lean towards the hd660s...
Stephen Obrien yeah I’m still digging them! My mixes are sounding a bit better because of them I think.
thats a kiwi accent alright , loved the review would love some more comparisons if you get hands on other studio classics like beyerdynamic dt880 pro , akg k702/712.
concept physicis Actualy South African. Thanx and will do!
The extra cable on the 660 is a balanced pentacon, not an iphone jack by the way
Thanx!
@@markkilianschannel u can use that same balanced pentaconn cable on your HD 650s since it has the same connectors. :)
For mixing and coming from Sony 7506 which would you recommend that gets you closer to a mix that works on numerous devices? My fear is I’m going to hear a muffled sound on I coming from Sonys. Curious about Slate VSX
Well either the 650 or 660's would be a significant upgrade from your Sony's. But as I said in the video what's more important is how well you know the phones you're mixing on then the phones themselves. If you're happy with the mixes you're getting from the Sony's then stick to them. But when I compare my mixes on the Sennheisers and the Sony's the Sony's are much further away from what I want to hear. Those Sony's are great for in-studio work but I wouldn't mix or master with them myself.
@@markkilianschannel tuck you for the reply I’ve heard they they are a bit dark. Which of the two are more pushed in the hi end? Would an Apollo twin power them sufficiently? Thanks
@@ST-fl5fy Well I wouldn't call them dark. They're just more neutral and not pushed in the high end like so many are. Of the 2 the 650's I find a little more pronounced in the high end. But you'll get a little less volume out of the 650's compared to the 660's. However, that's not a problem with the Apollo as they'll drive the 650's beautifully.
Really helpful comparison. I landed on your video for the exact purpose you made it. Thank you. How are the 660s working for you?
I am so sorry about this comment even before I post it. @10:52 I could NOT help myself thinking of Alan Partridge saying "Full Beam!" Maybe I am a bit stoned.
if i already own the 58x and 560s, are the 650's worth it in 2023 i wonder?
Well I can't speak for those models so can't compare. But the 650's will basically be timeless. The have to gadgetry to age them. They just do what they do well, reliably and seemingly forever.
Great help, thanks!
Thanks for this the 660s direct to iPhone is they way I will go!
The extra cable with 4.4 mm plug is for amplifier with balanced design. It is not for iPhone. I find the balanced connection with HD660s gives much better sound plus volume
@@brianliu522 & as a plus; that same balanced pentaconn cable that came with your HD 660s can be attached to your HD 650 & HD 600 headphones since the connectors are the same.
I need a review of the HD660s with that new Audient id4 interface 🤔
What is the intro song? sounds nice
Thanx! It's a song called 'Naughty Sausage' from my The Gravy Street album entitled Daisy Confused.
I haven’t heard the 650’s, but you are spot-on about the 660’s which has me in a tenzy because I feel that the 660’s are too separated in the soundstage, which takes away from the musicality of what I’m listening to...660’s would be excellent for music production work , but I don’t know if I could use the 660’s to listen to and enjoy music...The amount of separation of the instruments takes away from the cohesiveness of the overall soundstage of the instruments, which causes a distraction to the listening experience. IMHO....I just got them and going to give them a little more time, but I don’t know if I can get used to this.😂😂
Yeah I would probably stick with the 650s for pure listening but the 660s are better for me in production work.
The high frequencies are of the charts in this video. I felt like I was using Beyer dynamics the whole time.
So far all his videos I have watched are as bad.
Might be due to the fact that he is in his 50's or at least late 40's. His ears might not have the same high frequency content they had when he was younger so he over boosts the high frequencies when he EQ's. It could also be the mic and the room but that would be mitigated by the post processing so it's either the ears or a combination of all those factors. Or maybe he has the ears of a 20 year old and I don't know what I'm talking about 😂
Thanks Mark!
Good review brother. I need them for gaming, would HD660s do? If yes, do you recommend any small amp to use on the tv or on the controller (jack)? I wanted something plug-and-play but people say that these headphones only shine with an amp.
Hey James. I usually just use these going right out of the laptop, but when I do use an amp it’s the Apogee Duet 2. Do they sound better with the headphone amp? Well yes, but the difference is not massive. For gaming the other thing to take into account is that these are open back headphones and so not only will you hear sounds from your environment, but your headphones will also be quite loud for someone else in the room. That may not be an issue for you but it’s something to take into account.
Nice job. Thanks for sharing.
Aren't studio headphones better for mixing and producing? I thought these kind of headphones were more to "listen"...
Nice review
Another great vid Mark! I think that extra 4.4mm Pentaconn male TRRRS connector cable you get with the HD660s is "optimally matched" to the Sennheiser HDV 820 headphone amplifier, not for an iPhone. PS - does this mean I can have the MH-40s you casually tossed out of shot? 😱
Thanx Dude!! Ha you can have em:)
@@markkilianschannel Red Flag for not getting the HD 600 & judging it along with the other 2. 😉
Мастерит через карту ноутбука потому что ленивый? Хорошо что есть студия чтобы подправить. Иначе этот мастер бы на мастерил...🙃
Are the hd 660s the same as the 6xx?
nice. new channel to sub to. just didn't like how you throw away that poor old headphone of yours like it didn't serve you any good in its time
I can say this, if you ever hear a real headphone, this one is not touch ears anymore. Don't listen any reviewers how good or bad, listen it yourself, then listen airpods pro (or max), and decide give it 600$ or keep it.
You've been mixing on MH40s...before?? OUCH! Do they even count as pro headphones?
No they don’t:) before those I used the very first Beats headphones that were released.
The point is it’s more about how well you know your headphones then it is about how good the headphones actually are.
You mean you're mastering on a laptop without a decent sound card?
Oh my
Yep! Guilty as charged:)
The hd 600 is dope
you should try the HD560s bud
You sould have chosen the DT 1990 Pro. For mastering and mixing, hands down !!
They don’t play sounds accurate, the bass is always too loud even with professional masters music and the hi end is really weird
Am I the only Karen here to complain about the tossing of the Master & Dynamics??? 🤣
Nope:) Others have complained too. I still have those and they still work fine BTW!
@@markkilianschannel hahaaa... So relieved to hear that. (That they are still working!) 😅 /cheers!!
Somewhat ironic that your audio is so bad on this video, I am listening on AKG K701 the Austrian made ones.What type of mic are you using?
It's a lavalier mic for iPhone made by Movo. I've used it on all my vids and I have to agree with you, I don't think it's that great. Time to upgrade!
@@markkilianschannel That's great,looking forward to your future content.
Fix the audio and lighting in future videos
Just move on to another reviewer of your liking. Nothing to fix here.
650 rules
This guy doesn't use a amp. He plugs them right into his laptop... 10:37
You’re right. But please don’t tell my Mom:)
@@markkilianschannel Fine, but just because I don’t want to trouble her. To think her son doesn’t use a DAC/AMP. smh
:):)