Happy to see you on those comment i am working/learning to remove the bumps from my ferro rods with a file i now carry 1 small and cheap on i use the shavings of it like if it was magnesium i slowly scrape it then i concentrate the powder/shavings in my birch barch sheet then i lay what ever i will use to catch easily the spark and this will start to do small explosions as all those little piece catch the spark ! you then lightly blow for more explosions if needed i think its a great tricks
FINALLY! Someone who is willing to clearly tell people that they need to get out there and TRY stuff to see what works and what doesn't. Experience isn't something you get from someone else. Really nice video -- on point. I live in a rainforest, so finding tinder is a very different challenge here. The best way to know what works is just to get out there, collect a bunch of different things that look like they might work, and try them... bearing in mind that results can be seasonal.
You are spot on with this video Joe. Preparing your resources is KEY! You can have the best materials in the world but if you don't have enough of them or don't properly prepare them you are doomed for failure.
Very straightforward and too the topic at hand. You're a quick talker but easy to understand and I appreciate that you don't boast about your skill level. Practice, practice, practice is a good motto for most curiosities in life :) Time to shop online and get to practicing!
Joe, you say you are not an expert in this area, but you ARE the best I have seen at getting fire. Pay attention people, this man knows his stuff. I say you are an expert, yet humble. Thanks for another great video.
Excellent guidelines! I'll be practicing mine later this afternoon. Anyone can luck out and do something perfect every now and then. But practice makes it happen more often than not. Keep up the good videos!
I appreciate your humbleness. You say you are no expert, but hands down you are the best at fero rod fire making. Period. I have never seen anyone get flame with one spark of a fero rod like you do. If you are no expert, then there are no experts. You are also the best with bow drill fires. Making fire with hickory using a bow drill is very hard, except you make it look easy. I'm telling you UA-camrs that if you want to learn fire craft, listen to this man. He is an expert.
I honestly don't know what to say. I'm flattered man. There are plenty of guys out there with more skill then I though ;) As far as the hickory bow drill fire...There is never anything easy about that LOL!! Thank you very much for the kind words, the mean a lot Sir.
Excellent video ! So often the tools get the blame on the firing line. Stop reevaluate adjust and execute. Collect it, shred it, fluff it, and burn it. Thanks for sharing !
point 4 2:52 Hold the ferro rod closer to your bundle point 3 3:04 Know your resources point 2 4:55 ? Try different materials, see what works? point 1 5:30 Not properly planning your resources not being a jerk, just helping future viewers.
this is great explanation of ferro rod usage. I havnt been able to watch videos for about a month (no time) at home sick so its catch up time. good way to spend the day keep up the good work
Great video Joe. Loved hearing you mention that you teach 4H kids. All seven of mine went through the 4H program and I am a huge proponent thereof. Thanks for sharing.
Good and informative material, thanks! I like the mindset of first looking at yourself, not the gear flaws. I'm not a huge bushcraft expert but for these dozens of fires I made with ferro rod, learned my lesson in even slightly moist conditions - as you said, the key to success is the preperation of your tinder. In the beginning I tended to use only birch back, but at some point I wasn't able to pick it anywhere near. Then I moved to feathersticks. It was a good method, but I wasn't good enough, I took me quite a bit of time to produce nice, well distributed, long and thin shavings. At some point I started to use the bird's nest and... My, oh my, what a gamechanger that is! Anyway, thanks for the tips!
Nice video Joe. Big thumbs up! Out here in the Arizona high desert, we have "tinder" rather different than in the eastern wood land forests. Example, there are no birch trees in my State. But in the mountains that rise out of the desert, there are pines, meaning pitch and fat wood.....and the stubby Pinyon Pine sweats golf ball size globs of resin. Down in the desert, the sun and the extreme heat turns many parts of many plants into very dry tinder, almost as good as birch bark. Dried out palm fronds resemble parchment. And there are dead cholla, and ocotillo, and too many bush type plants to list here. All your points are sound. Just yesterday, I was practicing with my ferro rod in my back yard. It's fun!! And there are two items I always carry for fire starting, that being Esbit fuel cubes burning at 1300 degrees and Vaseline impregnated dryer lint. These two are fool proof in my opinion.
Thanks Charles! Yes, I agree, carrying multiple sure fire options is a must in my opinion. It's so easy to do, it's silly not to. One day I'd love to get out to your area and do some hiking and camping. The difference in playgrounds would be fascinating. Thanks again bud!
Great point on practice Joe, and I know from watching your videos that you speak from experience not just head knowledge. You are so right on Number 1!!!!! I know this was big area of trouble with me when I first started learning new types of fire starting methods. I wanted to rush the process and skip processing large amounts...and usually failed!!! Thanks for sharing the knowledge you have learned.
A lot of great info Joe, I use to think what am I doing wrong then I thought it's not me or my ferro rod, but then with practice I learned it was me and my type of striker ( not like a 90 degree spine) I had a more rounded spine on my striking tool, then I worked on my material I was lighting to refine its ability to take a spark, and of course watching guys like you to learn from helped a lot.
Just got back from a camping trip, to try out bushcrafting, tried out a number of gasifiers, and alcohol stoves. Learned a lot about what works and what doesn't in windy conditions. Really wanted to try my ferro rod. must have misplaced it. all in all it was a great learning experience. Going to take a lot more practice to get good at it.
It sounds like you had a blast! Experimenting with different gear is one of my favorite past times. But I guess that is kind of obvious lol Thanks Gregory!
Thanks for the great tips! Although I'm still confused because when I strike my ferro rod, I don't get nearly as many sparks as you get so I have to be closer and end up knocking around my tinder. Does anyone know why that is? how do I get more sparks?
Lilly in the Wild, try a different brand. Some brands have different formulas. Get you a firesteel from firesteel.com they throw the biggest, longest burning sparks available. At 6’0” I can stand up and scrape sparks that are still burning when they hit the ground. For the ones that you have That have short burning sparks, I put the firesteel right into the tinder and use rapid short strokes. Order one from firesteel.con though, you’ll love it.
Pressure is important. Really applying the striker to the rod and keeping a tight grip is important. I've found slow strong strokes and rapidstrokes both are effective but pressure is essential.
I have a Snowpeak Gigapower stove and just lately, I can see the sparks coming from my ferro rod but it's taking me several tries to get the gas to light. I'm pretty close to it. I'm going to try angling my scraper closer towards the end to get a 45-degree angle next (just learned this from another video) and hopefully get bigger sparks, but I'm wondering if I'm aiming it wrong or something. It's pretty clear where the gas comes out and honestly I've had this thing for years and I usually get it after 2-3 tries in the past. I was trying to thnk of reasons why it would get harder to light.
Well said! Important info. I did not find that you rambled. Soothing to listen to. Refreshing actually because you just tell it like it is with no condescending or judgemental tone. Good teaching and that is why I watch these kinds of videos. You have a new subber! Joel T.
Good video I live in north west pa I really love using birch bark burns better than paper and hemlock has super fine branches and the lower ones are usually dead and dry
Great video. I preach preparing your fuel greatly. ferro misuse or understanding how to use is a bigger issue that's never talked about. thanks for shedding some light on the subject.
I just bought a Schrade survival axe, which came with a ferro rod, and i tried testing it out on a bunch of different fuel sources, and keeping inmind that im not too far away and its not wet. i couldnt even get small pieces of ripped up brown paper to light!?? not sure if its my ferro rod or my technique.. im pretty confused ..
Using a ferro rod to light a fire demands that you have a working knowledge of the environment where you are lighting the fire. Being able to recognize the trees, plants etc will prove very useful. Obviously common (or not so common these days) sense comes into play. Preparing tinder beforehand is always the best. I always carry some sisal that's been teased into a woolly consistency, along with some char-cloth (easy to prepare at home). Good video, however, for those new to fire lighting with a ferro rod. Easy to make the mistakes you pointed out .. so well done! Btw, I would strongly suggest don't buy the cheap, small ferro rods - you know the ones - they're only about 2 inches long. .. and get a good striker - a length of broken hack-saw blade works well.
Thanks Joel, I appreciate that. I highly doubt I'll ever do it for real but there is just something about seeing the wonderment on a kids face as they see the fire they just made and realize that they did that.
Watching you show different fire skills such as bow drills and other techniques, I've realised I don't need to practice...... I just need to invite you along on my outdoor adventures ! Well done sir ! It's just as important to know why your doing something as is the techniques themselves....... Sometimes other youtubers fall short there......PAPA DUKES
Hello. I observe that when scratching the ferrocerio, I get sparks until after a few scratches begin to form signs, a few transverse spokes or steps in the ferrocerio bar, the surface becomes irregular ("wrinkles"), with which the bar when losing its smooth surface does not allow to obtain good sparks. I have used knife loins and conventional scrapers. But they are formed in one way or another. I think that is not normal ... What is the reason for the formation of these transversal steps and how can they be prevented from forming? Could you make a video about the proper handling of the ferrocerio? (It seems simple but certainly requires certain tips that are acquired with practice)
I appreciate the video. I've made basically the mistakes you mentioned. I'll be trying the ferro rod again this summer when out camping. That said, I WILL have a bic in my pocket as backup...
Here in FL. we have Pine , Oak and some species of Maple trees. There are a lot of Brazilian Pepper trees that are really not trees but grow to a large size if untamed by trimming them back. I live in the sub tropical zone that would be just below Orlando, Tampa and Daytona so the humidity and rain keeps everything damp . We do have droughts as much of this area is covered with concrete and it's getting worse. There is a big change in our climate from the 1960s till now. It's a lot dryer now due to population and the shrinking of the wilderness.
I would like to add a tip here. If one is getting horizontal fine grooves on your ferro rod, they can be removed, not to return. When holding the rod and running what ever striker that you use, people usually hold it at a 90 degree angle to the rod. But....if one holds the striker at a 45 degree angle, or there about, the annoying tiny speed bumps are much much less likely to occur.
I said that Vaseline impregnated dryer lint is fool proof. Well, I had that fail me yesterday....even when a lighter was put to it small feeble flame and then out. This batch was made well over a year ago. But WTF?? Since when does Vaseline and lint not burn??? I'm stumped here. Any thoughts Joe??? Anyone??????
Dried Vaseline IMHE usually takes more encouragement to burn than fresh. I use it very often for long term storage of high Carbon large blade knives. It will harden on them, but still protects very well. I keep my PJ cotton in old medicine bottles.
Hello I’m really a green horn to all of this but since least year I’ve felt an urgency to put together my own survival gear bug out kit. And so naturally I’ve been watching a lot on UA-cam to help. Of course I learnt about Mora knives and fero rods which I have purchased and through I haven’t used them practically yet I have had some fun letting off some sparks using my mora Garberg and my bailite fero rod. At first the rod was incredible and the sparks ⚡️ like a dragon but within a few days it is hardly letting off even 3 sparks and has horrid ridges running up it. Have I destroyed the rod or is it a piece of crap? Can I fix it?
When I had to take Hunter Safety Class, we would use just a flint n steel with charcloth and on top of our tender nest would be the inner bark fibers with a piece of steel wool on top to place our lit charcloth on to get our bundle started and I still use this method everytime I make a tinder start bundle. But moving from Colorado to Nevada as you said was a learning process as to what types of wood works in the desert from that was abundant in Colorado changes where you live. So you definitely need to familiarize yourself with your area of camping and survival.
As I have come to expect, another terrific video. Sure wish you could do some traveling and offer classes all over the state. Being on the coast, with the most predominant fuel being yellow pine, do you feel this is a good fuel source? Thanks.
It can be. It burns hot and fast and tends to leave a residue on cook pots and such. It's so sappy it can be hard to use with friction fire but if you get the right piece, it's a snap. It has unpredictable grain so feathering can be a breeze or very difficult. However it provides fatwood and pine resin and both of those are great fire starters/extenders. Dry pine needles are basically a sure fire in my opinion. I could go on. Yes, it is a great resource but it's quality is hit and miss at times lol Thanks!
Great tips Joe! A Bic is always a good choice. If Lewis and Clark had access to some Bics they surely would have made use of them! Love that shirt and the BHK!
I love that shirt and BHK too :) And that is the truth about Louis and Clark. A short story here. A couple years ago I had the opportunity to spend a 4 day weekend camping with a mentor of mine. We got into camp late, it was raining, we hadn't eaten for a long time so were starving. We throw camp up and I start gathering wood while he processes it and starts the fire. I had my back turned and I hear the snick of a bic. I turn around with a surprised look on my face and he looks at me and just said "Why show off? I'm tired and hungry...lets get this party started.". The most important thing I learned that weekend is simply this...we do this stuff because it's fun, not because it's necessarily best practice. Thanks Dan!
What brand ferro rod were you using? Was that an EricX or a different ferro rod? I wanted to buy an EricX ferro rod but I couldn’t find a proper review on it.
I have had a fun experience with my probably Chinese made ferro rod. It came with its own striker which is so very difficult to get a spark with. I eventually tried the back of my folding saw blade and much better sparks were produced. Continuing with this experiment I have found that the back edge of childrens scissors (mine are Faber Castell) which I use in my first aid kit are the best at producing really good sparks.
Hey, I need help. I am able to get pretty good sparks from my rod but the materials I have to hand at home aren't doing anything. I have vaseline, dead leaves and dead sticks but nothing is working, it's so frustrating ☹
I feel your frustration. I'm no expert either and I live in the high humidity mid atlantic states and had similar experiences. I came to the conclusion that with that kind of humidity those kinds of tinder items just never get dry enough, especially leaves and twigs with the bark on. If I am stuck with natural tinders my go to is splitting down larger branches to get to the dryer inner wood. Feathers are great but I find that many people shave them too large, the smallest fibrous splits are better. I also spread out a ground sheet to catch all of those tiny pieces that go flying or fall into the dirt, they're the best. Hope that helps some.
No rambling, straightforward and to the point. Thank you.. During practice I kept losing my fine gathered and fluffed up material. I found a gather bag helpful to contain and concentrate these materials until all my material was in position. I ended up using a lowly Walmart bag that due to wet conditions burns and added to the tinder.
Ah heck Joe, I'm just a guy that makes knives. You have WAY more outdoor skills than I do. I'm always too busy grinding. I appreciate the kind words brother. Thank you.
And there is absolutely nothing wrong with that either Shaun. We all share a love of the outdoors but there is no one right way for you to enjoy it. Thanks!
Hey joe saw your reviews of the Genesis, I'm about to buy one the DWX edition for my first one, you think it's a good idea for a good high end bushcraft knife? I became a big fan of you and your work and channel so I value your opinion a lot. And what do u think for a survival knife? Bravo 1? I have a bunch of Esee and tops and what not but wanna start getting high end knives ".
My apologies for being so tardy here. I am slowly catching up. I have yet to use a Genesis that isn't an excellent tool. If you are in the market for a survival knife and are looking at the Bravo 1, with survival in mind, I'd recommend the Bravo 1.25 in 3v. I really think that is the sweet spot for the smaller side of the Bravo design. At least in my opinion. Thanks! Let me know what you decide :)
Feral Woodcraft thanks for the reply Joe I agree about the 1.25 or the 1.50 I think I'll get that I stead the 1 but I definitely agree with the 3v steel. another thing I am ordering the dwx lt wright Genesis I saw you reviews on that. I just get torn on spending another 100 on the kydex sheath. but do you think it's worth it? I do like the set up and kydex. I'll get the gns after I suppose
Very well explained. I admire your ability to explain thoroughly the point you are trying to get across.
Happy to see you on those comment i am working/learning to remove the bumps from my ferro rods with a file i now carry 1 small and cheap on i use the shavings of it like if it was magnesium i slowly scrape it then i concentrate the powder/shavings in my birch barch sheet then i lay what ever i will use to catch easily the spark and this will start to do small explosions as all those little piece catch the spark ! you then lightly blow for more explosions if needed i think its a great tricks
FINALLY! Someone who is willing to clearly tell people that they need to get out there and TRY stuff to see what works and what doesn't. Experience isn't something you get from someone else. Really nice video -- on point. I live in a rainforest, so finding tinder is a very different challenge here. The best way to know what works is just to get out there, collect a bunch of different things that look like they might work, and try them... bearing in mind that results can be seasonal.
Exactly !
You are spot on with this video Joe. Preparing your resources is KEY! You can have the best materials in the world but if you don't have enough of them or don't properly prepare them you are doomed for failure.
Thank you Mike.
Great video. Very informative and honest. Your humbleness and demeanor are exactly what others on UA-cam should follow. You are part of the solution.
Very straightforward and too the topic at hand. You're a quick talker but easy to understand and I appreciate that you don't boast about your skill level. Practice, practice, practice is a good motto for most curiosities in life :) Time to shop online and get to practicing!
Joe, you say you are not an expert in this area, but you ARE the best I have seen at getting fire. Pay attention people, this man knows his stuff. I say you are an expert, yet humble. Thanks for another great video.
Excellent guidelines! I'll be practicing mine later this afternoon. Anyone can luck out and do something perfect every now and then. But practice makes it happen more often than not. Keep up the good videos!
Right on!! Have fun!
Thanks, Joe. These basics are so important, and often glossed over. Be blessed my friend. John
Thanks John, I completely agree Sir.
I appreciate the way you break everything down and give the reasoning behind success. Your "verboseness" makes it clear and easy to understand.
I appreciate your humbleness. You say you are no expert, but hands down you are the best at fero rod fire making. Period. I have never seen anyone get flame with one spark of a fero rod like you do. If you are no expert, then there are no experts. You are also the best with bow drill fires. Making fire with hickory using a bow drill is very hard, except you make it look easy. I'm telling you UA-camrs that if you want to learn fire craft, listen to this man. He is an expert.
I honestly don't know what to say. I'm flattered man. There are plenty of guys out there with more skill then I though ;) As far as the hickory bow drill fire...There is never anything easy about that LOL!! Thank you very much for the kind words, the mean a lot Sir.
Excellent video ! So often the tools get the blame on the firing line. Stop reevaluate adjust and execute. Collect it, shred it, fluff it, and burn it. Thanks for sharing !
One could never tell you were a military man... :-P haha I like your synopsis! I may have to borrow that sometime. Thanks!
point 4 2:52 Hold the ferro rod closer to your bundle
point 3 3:04 Know your resources
point 2 4:55 ? Try different materials, see what works?
point 1 5:30 Not properly planning your resources
not being a jerk, just helping future viewers.
this is great explanation of ferro rod usage. I havnt been able to watch videos for about a month (no time) at home sick so its catch up time. good way to spend the day keep up the good work
Howdy Ed! I figured you'd been busy helping out a mutual friend. ;) I hope you're feeling better!
I really like how you present your ideas and the humility you have. Thank you. Peace from Turkey, Izmir.
Thank you very much Emrah, I appreciate it.
Well-done sir. Good info.
Thank you very much Sir! I appreciate you stopping by!
Feral Woodcraft yes sir. Good stuff
+EverydayTacticalVids thank you. That really means a lot coming from you.
Excellent tutorial
Great video Joe. Loved hearing you mention that you teach 4H kids. All seven of mine went through the 4H program and I am a huge proponent thereof. Thanks for sharing.
Your kids probably hate you 😂
@@ticket2space621 No idea why you would say that...
These are all great truths I could've used about a year ago....any beginner out there listening, this is great advice.
Good and informative material, thanks! I like the mindset of first looking at yourself, not the gear flaws.
I'm not a huge bushcraft expert but for these dozens of fires I made with ferro rod, learned my lesson in even slightly moist conditions - as you said, the key to success is the preperation of your tinder. In the beginning I tended to use only birch back, but at some point I wasn't able to pick it anywhere near. Then I moved to feathersticks. It was a good method, but I wasn't good enough, I took me quite a bit of time to produce nice, well distributed, long and thin shavings. At some point I started to use the bird's nest and... My, oh my, what a gamechanger that is!
Anyway, thanks for the tips!
Excellent video. I too am in NEC. I am a fire keeper and I learned some from you. Thank you.
WNC auto correct. Gotta love it
Thanks Joe great video, I have to admit my fire skills need a little refresher I got a little lazy with my fire making through the summer.
Jason
That happens to everyone my friend. Thanks for watching!
Great how to! I have some catching up to do. Have a great day
Nice video Joe. Big thumbs up! Out here in the Arizona high desert, we have "tinder" rather different than in the eastern wood land forests. Example, there are no birch trees in my State. But in the mountains that rise out of the desert, there are pines, meaning pitch and fat wood.....and the stubby Pinyon Pine sweats golf ball size globs of resin. Down in the desert, the sun and the extreme heat turns many parts of many plants into very dry tinder, almost as good as birch bark. Dried out palm fronds resemble parchment. And there are dead cholla, and ocotillo, and too many bush type plants to list here. All your points are sound. Just yesterday, I was practicing with my ferro rod in my back yard. It's fun!! And there are two items I always carry for fire starting, that being Esbit fuel cubes burning at 1300 degrees and Vaseline impregnated dryer lint. These two are fool proof in my opinion.
Thanks Charles! Yes, I agree, carrying multiple sure fire options is a must in my opinion. It's so easy to do, it's silly not to.
One day I'd love to get out to your area and do some hiking and camping. The difference in playgrounds would be fascinating.
Thanks again bud!
Really like your humble attitude, great video!
I've watched several similar videos, this is my favorite so far. 👌
Great point on practice Joe, and I know from watching your videos that you speak from experience not just head knowledge. You are so right on Number 1!!!!! I know this was big area of trouble with me when I first started learning new types of fire starting methods. I wanted to rush the process and skip processing large amounts...and usually failed!!! Thanks for sharing the knowledge you have learned.
Thanks Lee, I appreciate that. Thanks for watching!
I wonder why you don't have more subscribers. Your videos are great. Your way of teaching is what I aspire to.
A lot of great info Joe, I use to think what am I doing wrong then I thought it's not me or my ferro rod, but then with practice I learned it was me and my type of striker ( not like a 90 degree spine) I had a more rounded spine on my striking tool, then I worked on my material I was lighting to refine its ability to take a spark, and of course watching guys like you to learn from helped a lot.
A rounded spine will definitely make your job a lot harder Jeff. Thanks man!
Awesome Sir. your explanation is informative, pretty good. I am from Indonesia.
Just got back from a camping trip, to try out bushcrafting, tried out a number of gasifiers, and alcohol stoves. Learned a lot about what works and what doesn't in windy conditions. Really wanted to try my ferro rod. must have misplaced it. all in all it was a great learning experience. Going to take a lot more practice to get good at it.
It sounds like you had a blast! Experimenting with different gear is one of my favorite past times. But I guess that is kind of obvious lol Thanks Gregory!
Learn from ALONE, never misplace your ferro rod ! :-)
Are you still in Western NC, up in the mountains?
You never mentioned removing the lacquer from the rod - Once I did this I get better sparks. Saw this from others - I learned.
lacquer!? I like to call it the skin :)
Call it what you want. The man's right it's lacquer
Thanks for the great tips! Although I'm still confused because when I strike my ferro rod, I don't get nearly as many sparks as you get so I have to be closer and end up knocking around my tinder. Does anyone know why that is? how do I get more sparks?
Lilly in the Wild, try a different brand. Some brands have different formulas. Get you a firesteel from firesteel.com they throw the biggest, longest burning sparks available. At 6’0” I can stand up and scrape sparks that are still burning when they hit the ground. For the ones that you have That have short burning sparks, I put the firesteel right into the tinder and use rapid short strokes. Order one from firesteel.con though, you’ll love it.
Pressure is important. Really applying the striker to the rod and keeping a tight grip is important. I've found slow strong strokes and rapidstrokes both are effective but pressure is essential.
Nice video, thanks. Where in WNC are you.
Would you recommend keeping striker still and close to bundle and move rod to create spark ⚡️ do you don’t disturb bundle?
I have a Snowpeak Gigapower stove and just lately, I can see the sparks coming from my ferro rod but it's taking me several tries to get the gas to light. I'm pretty close to it. I'm going to try angling my scraper closer towards the end to get a 45-degree angle next (just learned this from another video) and hopefully get bigger sparks, but I'm wondering if I'm aiming it wrong or something. It's pretty clear where the gas comes out and honestly I've had this thing for years and I usually get it after 2-3 tries in the past. I was trying to thnk of reasons why it would get harder to light.
Good video. This is a very well spoken young man and he does a nice job on this subject 👍🏻
Well said! Important info. I did not find that you rambled. Soothing to listen to. Refreshing actually because you just tell it like it is with no condescending or judgemental tone. Good teaching and that is why I watch these kinds of videos. You have a new subber!
Joel T.
Well thanks Cheryl, I appreciate that greatly!
Excellent video my friend,im buying the Enzo trapper.May I ask your opinion on the Enzo trapper knife.Stay safe.
What's a good field book for tree identification and properties? Thanks
Thanks for the video, I to do agree with material prep, for many years I sucked with ferro rods, largely because I didn't prepare it well enough.
Thanks Matthew!
Good video I live in north west pa I really love using birch bark burns better than paper and hemlock has super fine branches and the lower ones are usually dead and dry
Great video. I preach preparing your fuel greatly. ferro misuse or understanding how to use is a bigger issue that's never talked about. thanks for shedding some light on the subject.
Thanks bud! I appreciate not only the comment but the shares on FB as well. I am grateful for the support!
Great video and very worthwhile...... Offers a great platform for learning.
I really enjoyed this video, many thanks for making it
Great tips! Here in South Carolina, I found that thistle seed takes a spark very well. The slightest spark sets it on fire.
I enjoyed your video very much.
Thanks Joe.
I need to start getting out again.
Yes you do!! I officially challenge you Mark. Go out and make bacon and bannock on your next day off!
Excellent Video! Great job on the break down and incorporating the physics behind it all..Know all the basics and practice, practice, practice..
Good video! He does a good job, on subject, humble, honest guy! I liked it, and learned! Practice, practice, practice is right!!! Thank you!
I just bought a Schrade survival axe, which came with a ferro rod, and i tried testing it out on a bunch of different fuel sources, and keeping inmind that im not too far away and its not wet. i couldnt even get small pieces of ripped up brown paper to light!?? not sure if its my ferro rod or my technique.. im pretty confused ..
An excellent and highly useful video. This really helps fill in some of the gaps were I was getting frustrated in my attempts. Thank you Joe!
Excellent, I am stoked it helped! THanks for watching!
Using a ferro rod to light a fire demands that you have a working knowledge of the environment where you are lighting the fire. Being able to recognize the trees, plants etc will prove very useful. Obviously common (or not so common these days) sense comes into play. Preparing tinder beforehand is always the best. I always carry some sisal that's been teased into a woolly consistency, along with some char-cloth (easy to prepare at home). Good video, however, for those new to fire lighting with a ferro rod. Easy to make the mistakes you pointed out .. so well done!
Btw, I would strongly suggest don't buy the cheap, small ferro rods - you know the ones - they're only about 2 inches long. .. and get a good striker - a length of broken hack-saw blade works well.
Great video sir, I would love to take any class you teach, you explain things very well.
Thanks Joel, I appreciate that. I highly doubt I'll ever do it for real but there is just something about seeing the wonderment on a kids face as they see the fire they just made and realize that they did that.
Watching you show different fire skills such as bow drills and other techniques, I've realised I don't need to practice...... I just need to invite you along on my outdoor adventures ! Well done sir ! It's just as important to know why your doing something as is the techniques themselves....... Sometimes other youtubers fall short there......PAPA DUKES
LOL I'd be happy to come along. It really is a shame distance separates most of us. Thanks John!
Thanks brother, keep up the good work! Just a quick question, what size rod do you prefer?
+Pdiddy my personal favorite is the Swedish army model ferro rod which is the smaller of the two shown here. Thanks bud!
Spot on my friend! You hit the most important points necessary for success.
Very good video, thanks for sharing. Take care.
Hello. I observe that when scratching the ferrocerio, I get sparks until after a few scratches begin to form signs, a few transverse spokes or steps in the ferrocerio bar, the surface becomes irregular ("wrinkles"), with which the bar when losing its smooth surface does not allow to obtain good sparks. I have used knife loins and conventional scrapers. But they are formed in one way or another. I think that is not normal ... What is the reason for the formation of these transversal steps and how can they be prevented from forming? Could you make a video about the proper handling of the ferrocerio? (It seems simple but certainly requires certain tips that are acquired with practice)
All very good points Joe, thanks for sharing!
Im in Boone NC, i use whatever will light and burn! Have a great day!
Awesome video, Joe !
Thanks Tony!
I appreciate the video. I've made basically the mistakes you mentioned. I'll be trying the ferro rod again this summer when out camping. That said, I WILL have a bic in my pocket as backup...
Just found your channel. Great vid, simple explanation of exellent tips. thank you.
Here in FL. we have Pine , Oak and some species of Maple trees. There are a lot of Brazilian Pepper trees that are really not trees but grow to a large size if untamed by trimming them back. I live in the sub tropical zone that would be just below Orlando, Tampa and Daytona so the humidity and rain keeps everything damp . We do have droughts as much of this area is covered with concrete and it's getting worse. There is a big change in our climate from the 1960s till now. It's a lot dryer now due to population and the shrinking of the wilderness.
I would like to add a tip here. If one is getting horizontal fine grooves on your ferro rod, they can be removed, not to return. When holding the rod and running what ever striker that you use, people usually hold it at a 90 degree angle to the rod. But....if one holds the striker at a 45 degree angle, or there about, the annoying tiny speed bumps are much much less likely to occur.
Yep. The angle is different on just about every scraper but the concept you share is spot on. Thanks Charles!
I said that Vaseline impregnated dryer lint is fool proof. Well, I had that fail me yesterday....even when a lighter was put to it small feeble flame and then out. This batch was made well over a year ago. But WTF?? Since when does Vaseline and lint not burn??? I'm stumped here. Any thoughts Joe??? Anyone??????
Charles Larson I second the notion of synthetic materials, if your drier lint has a bunch of synthetics it wont work well.
Dried Vaseline IMHE usually takes more encouragement to burn than fresh. I use it very often for long term storage of high Carbon large blade knives. It will harden on them, but still protects very well. I keep my PJ cotton in old medicine bottles.
Hello I’m really a green horn to all of this but since least year I’ve felt an urgency to put together my own survival gear bug out kit. And so naturally I’ve been watching a lot on UA-cam to help. Of course I learnt about Mora knives and fero rods which I have purchased and through I haven’t used them practically yet I have had some fun letting off some sparks using my mora Garberg and my bailite fero rod. At first the rod was incredible and the sparks ⚡️ like a dragon but within a few days it is hardly letting off even 3 sparks and has horrid ridges running up it. Have I destroyed the rod or is it a piece of crap? Can I fix it?
Pine is common pretty much all over the US and makes a great feather stick
very informative Joe. new subscriber and enjoying your videos.
welcome Jimmy! Thank you very much, I am glad you enjoy the videos :)
If you don't mind me asking, what part are you actually at in west N.C.?
Somewhere in the middle :)
No worries I understand, reason I am asking is I am looking for a good bush crafting class or something among those lines.
SHoot me an email: joe@feralwoodcraft.com and we can chat out of the public eye :)
When I had to take Hunter Safety Class, we would use just a flint n steel with charcloth and on top of our tender nest would be the inner bark fibers with a piece of steel wool on top to place our lit charcloth on to get our bundle started and I still use this method everytime I make a tinder start bundle. But moving from Colorado to Nevada as you said was a learning process as to what types of wood works in the desert from that was abundant in Colorado changes where you live. So you definitely need to familiarize yourself with your area of camping and survival.
What a great video, do you ever find that some fero rods spark easier than others?
Thanks Mike! Yes. The differing ratio of iron to magnesium in various rods will effect how much pressure is required to generate sparks.
As I have come to expect, another terrific video. Sure wish you could do some traveling and offer classes all over the state. Being on the coast, with the most predominant fuel being yellow pine, do you feel this is a good fuel source? Thanks.
It can be. It burns hot and fast and tends to leave a residue on cook pots and such. It's so sappy it can be hard to use with friction fire but if you get the right piece, it's a snap. It has unpredictable grain so feathering can be a breeze or very difficult. However it provides fatwood and pine resin and both of those are great fire starters/extenders. Dry pine needles are basically a sure fire in my opinion. I could go on. Yes, it is a great resource but it's quality is hit and miss at times lol Thanks!
Great tips Joe! A Bic is always a good choice. If Lewis and Clark had access to some Bics they surely would have made use of them! Love that shirt and the BHK!
I love that shirt and BHK too :) And that is the truth about Louis and Clark. A short story here. A couple years ago I had the opportunity to spend a 4 day weekend camping with a mentor of mine. We got into camp late, it was raining, we hadn't eaten for a long time so were starving. We throw camp up and I start gathering wood while he processes it and starts the fire. I had my back turned and I hear the snick of a bic. I turn around with a surprised look on my face and he looks at me and just said "Why show off? I'm tired and hungry...lets get this party started.". The most important thing I learned that weekend is simply this...we do this stuff because it's fun, not because it's necessarily best practice. Thanks Dan!
Excellent video!
What brand ferro rod were you using? Was that an EricX or a different ferro rod? I wanted to buy an EricX ferro rod but I couldn’t find a proper review on it.
Very well done, Joe!All this homeschooling you've done has wooped you into a fine teacher!
hahaha I don't know lol THanks Mark!
Nice vid Joe , lots of good info !
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Thanks John!! Good to see you Sir!
SO MANY words to deliver such a simple method ? I mean, Gee Wiz Man.
What can I say but I am rambler. Thanks for watching
great video brother. i often use birch bark and birch feathers here in norway or dry reindeer moss etc
Thank you sir! I've used all three and all three work very well. Although the moss does tend to smell awful when it burns lol
Thats true 😉
Good strategy that applies to many things in life Good reminder, thank you
Great tutorial, points well broken down! Main point, practice, practice, practice! Materials, and Ferro rods, are not all the same!
Great stuff sir!
I have had a fun experience with my probably Chinese made ferro rod. It came with its own striker which is so very difficult to get a spark with. I eventually tried the back of my folding saw blade and much better sparks were produced. Continuing with this experiment I have found that the back edge of childrens scissors (mine are Faber Castell) which I use in my first aid kit are the best at producing really good sparks.
you rock my friend!! many new people mute be put off from trying. this is what they,we need to see. thanks much and blessings sir 😇
Thank you very much! New and struggling folks are who this was made for.
Hey, I need help. I am able to get pretty good sparks from my rod but the materials I have to hand at home aren't doing anything. I have vaseline, dead leaves and dead sticks but nothing is working, it's so frustrating ☹
I feel your frustration. I'm no expert either and I live in the high humidity mid atlantic states and had similar experiences. I came to the conclusion that with that kind of humidity those kinds of tinder items just never get dry enough, especially leaves and twigs with the bark on. If I am stuck with natural tinders my go to is splitting down larger branches to get to the dryer inner wood. Feathers are great but I find that many people shave them too large, the smallest fibrous splits are better. I also spread out a ground sheet to catch all of those tiny pieces that go flying or fall into the dirt, they're the best. Hope that helps some.
@@richardelliott9511 thanks, I'll bear those ideas in mind 👍
Good video, very sensible. I light my woodburner most evenings, have done for decades, and agree with everything said here
the entire video was VERY smart...… … ! I live and breath in Alaska. good job sir ...
Great video! This was super helpful :)
No rambling, straightforward and to the point. Thank you.. During practice I kept losing my fine gathered and fluffed up material. I found a gather bag helpful to contain and concentrate these materials until all my material was in position. I ended up using a lowly Walmart bag that due to wet conditions burns and added to the tinder.
Excellent video like you showing feather sticks exactly right on all 4 👍🏻
great post my friend, right on the money, all the best [I subbed]
Great video Joe. Good info as usual.
Thank you very much sir, that means a lot coming from you.
Ah heck Joe, I'm just a guy that makes knives. You have WAY more outdoor skills than I do. I'm always too busy grinding. I appreciate the kind words brother. Thank you.
What knife are you using lately
Ferro rod is definitely one skill I need to work on.Lighter is usually my go to most of the time.
And there is absolutely nothing wrong with that either Shaun. We all share a love of the outdoors but there is no one right way for you to enjoy it. Thanks!
Hey joe saw your reviews of the Genesis, I'm about to buy one the DWX edition for my first one, you think it's a good idea for a good high end bushcraft knife? I became a big fan of you and your work and channel so I value your opinion a lot. And what do u think for a survival knife? Bravo 1? I have a bunch of Esee and tops and what not but wanna start getting high end knives ".
My apologies for being so tardy here. I am slowly catching up. I have yet to use a Genesis that isn't an excellent tool. If you are in the market for a survival knife and are looking at the Bravo 1, with survival in mind, I'd recommend the Bravo 1.25 in 3v. I really think that is the sweet spot for the smaller side of the Bravo design. At least in my opinion. Thanks! Let me know what you decide :)
Feral Woodcraft thanks for the reply Joe I agree about the 1.25 or the 1.50 I think I'll get that I stead the 1 but I definitely agree with the 3v steel. another thing I am ordering the dwx lt wright Genesis I saw you reviews on that. I just get torn on spending another 100 on the kydex sheath. but do you think it's worth it? I do like the set up and kydex. I'll get the gns after I suppose
Great educational video Joe. God bless and stay safe.
Thanks Rich!
Great tips.. as usual. Thanks
Thank you Mark Young !
Get a bic for edc and several for survival kit bug out or in bags cant go wrong wit a bic joe, tanks for ur videos tho very educational
Thanks. We're from Texas. My boys and I have still had no luck with a ferro rod. Still trying.
Joe, great tips for beginners.
Thank you Jonathan Zook's Outdoors Laboratory !