If you notice, the correct answers are in the gibberish he writes. You just gota take out the extra characters. Like "baby sea bass lip flayer" is "Ba**se*ba**l*p*layer." It's a very clever play through.
It's even more lax then that: It doesn't even have to be all the letters, and they only have to be "mostly" in order. Sometimes, it even screws up that. In a memorable Game Grumps episode, Arin entered "C D PLAYER" and the judge accepted his answer as "MODEL CAR".
So, apparently, as long as your answer at least contains all of the letters that make up one of the actual answers, regardless of order/word grouping/excess letters etc., the answer would be right. lmao.
@Awelbeck Tool-assisted (TAS) means that the player plays the game in slow motion, with the ability to save state and replay as they desire, but the recording program used only counts pure player input. So it looks like they're typing quickly, when really it's in slow motion for them, then when the recording is replayed, the recording ignores the fact that it was slowed down, so it just looks like they're fast. But it has been 2 weeks since your comment, maybe you've already discovered that?
@Strilanc Most likely it's checking if each possible answer can be aligned with the input string without gaps, which is a good way to be insensitive to small input errors and a horrible way to reject large input errors.
Clearly the game is incorrectly comparing strings (text). It looks like repeated letters are combined and incorrect letters are ignored. So "baby sea bass lip flayer" matches "baseball player" like this: "BA__ SE_ BA__ L__ _LAYER". The (hilariously bad) comparison function probably looks like this: int strcmp(char* a1, char* a2) { for (; *a1 != 0; *a1++) for (; *a2 == *a1; *a2++); return *a2 == 0; } I have attempted to emulate how bad the code would look.
@onpon4 There's a semi-colon after the second for-loop, giving it an empty-body. The return statement is outside of both loops. I used the semi-colon like that on purpose, knowing it was easy to miss, as part of emulating how bad the code would look.
Didn't check, but I'm pretty sure it's because it's validating the answers by checking if the given answer contains the letters of the real answer in the correct order... regardless of what else is in there.
@Gamiac I'm pretty sure it's matching "_GR__ A______ S________". Repeated letters are ignored (as Strilanc noted above) and apparently GRASS is enough of the phrase to count.
In other words, the game was a quick cash in and the programmer(s) took minimal effort by just scanning left to right and storing letters that match while ignoring the rest. QUALITY! GOTYAY!
Ok, I get it. So it checks for word it knows by applying them to whatever the player types. The game is lax, in that as long as the letter are in the right order, it doesn't matter what's in between.
As someone who fancies himself a good programmer, this makes me want to cry. I realize that it's probably how the thing works in that game, but still...
At first I was wondering how those answers were considered correct, but looking more closely, this game seem to have an interesting way of checking answers, and the TASer is abusing this. As long as your answer contains all the letters of the expected answer in order it will be accepted from what I see.
I have tested it and I have a couple of observations on your code: 1) you don't need the * when going to the next letter, i.e. a1++ and a2++ would suffice. The precedence of ++ is higher of that of the *, and if it worked first, the code wouldn't work at all. 2) for the code to work, the space must be out of the answer the game is trying to compare the input string to. For info, check this at code pad, I tried to make it work! codepad org/uIbvNo0a
C d plAyeR = CAR = MODEL CAR, which is a perfectly reasonable synonym, at least given the context of that particular question. The game also allows some actual synonyms (SWIss Murder SUIT = SWIMSUIT = BATHING SUIT), and small degrees of misspelling (TOmS Tv = TOST = TOAST, oGRes Allowed Sparingly = GRAS = GRASS = KEEP OFF THE GRASS), but this is actually a *good thing* in a game like this, since some people aren't that good at spelling and others will miss a letter every now and again.
So I've managed to do this on the real console occasionally. I remember getting counted wrong for trying synonyms sometimes, and just blurting nonsense in a rage. I haven't played this in a long time, though.
@link6930 Yes, but this isn't a speedrun, it's a demonstratio... TAS is used more like a tag to simply state"This was Tool-Assisted to do ****** as fast as possible." This case, showing off bad word recognition.
No wait, I take that back. They took an even lazier route, by not checking to see if the exact letters are even in the phrase. Instead, it just checks for enough letters to match, as 5:05 shows.
Name someone everyone carries pictures of. fRankLIN D. roosEvelt - children Name somethings ships have to watch out for. InCrEdiBlE ReGgie - icebergs Name a vegetable in vegetable soup. CAR mOToR - carrots Name a food that's easy to burn. TOmS Tv - toast Name a device you look into. TasEd LosErS C ya dOPEs - telescope
My god, if I could get away with saying shit like "giant iron dildoes" on a g-rated game show and not be dragged off the set, I'd be the happiest man alive.
I laughed my ass off at this. Some of the stuff that was typed in would blend in well with the off the wall answers used on the Steve Harvey version these days.
I wish I knew this when I first played this at my uncle's house. Oh the fun I could have had with the shit programming. Funniest video I've watched in a while.
the best part about this video is the Hall family's reaction
*anger intensifies*
The blank stares of the Hall family just burned of their hatred to the A's for using their word without remorse.
3:13 the fucking look on their faces, like they're just so done with your bullshit. I love it.
"B-U-T-T-S-C-R-A-T-C-H-E-R"
"Good answer! Good answer!"
If you notice, the correct answers are in the gibberish he writes. You just gota take out the extra characters. Like "baby sea bass lip flayer" is "Ba**se*ba**l*p*layer." It's a very clever play through.
"I BUSTIN' RHYMES MY NIGGA"
"Businessman"
I don't know why you did this but I'm so glad you did
Imagine such answers being actually presented to Steve and they'd be right, the poor man would commit suicide on the spot
A gdzie Strassburger?
It's even more lax then that: It doesn't even have to be all the letters, and they only have to be "mostly" in order.
Sometimes, it even screws up that. In a memorable Game Grumps episode, Arin entered "C D PLAYER" and the judge accepted his answer as "MODEL CAR".
@ddukki this is NOT GLITCHED , no glitches were used. as ddukki said, it's just the way the game was programmed to read the text
So, apparently, as long as your answer at least contains all of the letters that make up one of the actual answers, regardless of order/word grouping/excess letters etc., the answer would be right.
lmao.
This is the fourth time I've watched this video today, and still, I have to wipe the tears from my eyes every time. Well done, kind sir. x'D
3:08
*HALL*
*[ANGER INTENSIFIES]*
@Awelbeck Tool-assisted (TAS) means that the player plays the game in slow motion, with the ability to save state and replay as they desire, but the recording program used only counts pure player input. So it looks like they're typing quickly, when really it's in slow motion for them, then when the recording is replayed, the recording ignores the fact that it was slowed down, so it just looks like they're fast.
But it has been 2 weeks since your comment, maybe you've already discovered that?
I loved when it cut to the Hall family at the end of the round, and they're just like "Really?"
The AVGN needs to review this.
@Strilanc Most likely it's checking if each possible answer can be aligned with the input string without gaps, which is a good way to be insensitive to small input errors and a horrible way to reject large input errors.
Clearly the game is incorrectly comparing strings (text). It looks like repeated letters are combined and incorrect letters are ignored. So "baby sea bass lip flayer" matches "baseball player" like this: "BA__ SE_ BA__ L__ _LAYER".
The (hilariously bad) comparison function probably looks like this:
int strcmp(char* a1, char* a2) {
for (; *a1 != 0; *a1++)
for (; *a2 == *a1; *a2++);
return *a2 == 0;
}
I have attempted to emulate how bad the code would look.
@onpon4 There's a semi-colon after the second for-loop, giving it an empty-body. The return statement is outside of both loops. I used the semi-colon like that on purpose, knowing it was easy to miss, as part of emulating how bad the code would look.
Didn't check, but I'm pretty sure it's because it's validating the answers by checking if the given answer contains the letters of the real answer in the correct order... regardless of what else is in there.
@thethinker372 Made even more funny by the fact that the music stops for a moment, then resumes when the focus moves off them.
@Gamiac I'm pretty sure it's matching "_GR__ A______ S________". Repeated letters are ignored (as Strilanc noted above) and apparently GRASS is enough of the phrase to count.
3:07 the Hall family is like "What the hell just happened?"
In other words, the game was a quick cash in and the programmer(s) took minimal effort by just scanning left to right and storing letters that match while ignoring the rest. QUALITY! GOTYAY!
Ok, I get it. So it checks for word it knows by applying them to whatever the player types. The game is lax, in that as long as the letter are in the right order, it doesn't matter what's in between.
I never knew that "BARBER" was a "SCUBA DIVER BUT BETTER". Thanks, Family Feud!
As someone who fancies himself a good programmer, this makes me want to cry. I realize that it's probably how the thing works in that game, but still...
I saw Mario TKO. I've played Mario TKO. And I've never been so sure Heisanevilgenious lived up to his name until now.
I'd watch Family Feud if it were like this.
At first I was wondering how those answers were considered correct, but looking more closely, this game seem to have an interesting way of checking answers, and the TASer is abusing this.
As long as your answer contains all the letters of the expected answer in order it will be accepted from what I see.
I have tested it and I have a couple of observations on your code:
1) you don't need the * when going to the next letter, i.e. a1++ and a2++ would suffice. The precedence of ++ is higher of that of the *, and if it worked first, the code wouldn't work at all.
2) for the code to work, the space must be out of the answer the game is trying to compare the input string to.
For info, check this at code pad, I tried to make it work!
codepad org/uIbvNo0a
"YALL BE UPS THE RIVER
I BUSTIN RHYMES MA NIGGA"
I lost it. I would give all my money to have someone make a live reenactment of this.
Need more like this.
'Sorry, You have lost better luck next time' The Halls are all like 'We didn't even freakin play! WTF'
C d plAyeR = CAR = MODEL CAR, which is a perfectly reasonable synonym, at least given the context of that particular question. The game also allows some actual synonyms (SWIss Murder SUIT = SWIMSUIT = BATHING SUIT), and small degrees of misspelling (TOmS Tv = TOST = TOAST, oGRes Allowed Sparingly = GRAS = GRASS = KEEP OFF THE GRASS), but this is actually a *good thing* in a game like this, since some people aren't that good at spelling and others will miss a letter every now and again.
So I've managed to do this on the real console occasionally. I remember getting counted wrong for trying synonyms sometimes, and just blurting nonsense in a rage.
I haven't played this in a long time, though.
@link6930 Yes, but this isn't a speedrun, it's a demonstratio... TAS is used more like a tag to simply state"This was Tool-Assisted to do ****** as fast as possible." This case, showing off bad word recognition.
No wait, I take that back. They took an even lazier route, by not checking to see if the exact letters are even in the phrase. Instead, it just checks for enough letters to match, as 5:05 shows.
The Hall family seems to be stuck in an infinite confusion.
Is this really glitching? It's just the way the game was programmed to interpret and read unknown text, isn't it?
@CyberchaoX It also accepts Swim Suit, which is a lot closer.
It really sums the whole thing up.
My guess for the looking through device Question probably would have been 1 of the following 3.
1: Telescope
2: Microscope
3: Binoculars
Oscilloscope.
That's true for most of them, but how does "Ogres Allowed Sparingly" match up with "Keep Off The Grass?"
The poor Hall family, they got all dressed up and told their family and friends to watch this episode.
bob barker pwns you? an answer?
might as well keep watching...
Zombie party attendant? Where do I sign up?
Name someone everyone carries pictures of.
fRankLIN D. roosEvelt - children
Name somethings ships have to watch out for.
InCrEdiBlE ReGgie - icebergs
Name a vegetable in vegetable soup.
CAR mOToR - carrots
Name a food that's easy to burn.
TOmS Tv - toast
Name a device you look into.
TasEd LosErS C ya dOPEs - telescope
To occupy their time, the Halls try and settle the age-old question: Can you stare someone to death?
This is the funniest thing I've seen in a long time
That was incredible. Great work
C D Player... Model Car... anyone?
nice
INCREDIBLE REGGIE RIGHT AHEAD
I went on that website...
Never again.
Is the game this broken?
4:16 How the hell does 'OGRES ALLOWED SPARINGLY' equate to 'KEEP OFF THE GRASS', exactly? Also, at 4:40: 'ABRACADABRA I WIN'. Classic.
_GR_S A______ S________.
It's parsing it as "Grass" and accepting it as a typo.
When "celery" got 0 for name a vegetable in vegetable soup, I lost it. Name something ships have to watch out for...land... xD
If they really didn't care, it wouldn't accept anything other than the exact answer, and a typo would equal a wrong answer.
My god, if I could get away with saying shit like "giant iron dildoes" on a g-rated game show and not be dragged off the set, I'd be the happiest man alive.
Fifteen viewers were pwned by Bob Barker.
The stare of the HALL family... o_O
SOON
Seems legit
I love the akward pictures of the Hall family.
that Hall family is going to be fucking pissed
I laughed my ass off at this. Some of the stuff that was typed in would blend in well with the off the wall answers used on the Steve Harvey version these days.
Suddenly I want a Swiss Murder Suit.
3:06, then 4:32
The Hall family is not amused. Fitting music.
I have a sign in my shop that says "No stealing pornography". Nobody seems to obey that either.
The Hall Family just looks too shocked to speak.
this is the best thing
ever
The Hall family has these death glares going on, I just can't stop laughing.
@lolKbgTgm6621what I'm guessing they also accept synonyms, in this case "GRASS" and "SWIMSUIT".
Ohh the Halls are pissed :DD
The Hall's are fucking pissed because Chuck Norris is in the A family.
Oh God, this is priceless
**shakes fist** BARROWMAN!!
lol i remember doing similar things when I had a copy of the game. i would use either swear words or put in the whole alphabet. sometimes it worked :P
Wait a second.... That "black" guy on the far left of the Halls family, is that a black Adolf Hitler?
@link6930 Yes, if you wish to put it so simple... :P
Halls: ಠ_ಠ
I want a sign that says "Ogres Allowed Sparingly" to hang on my door.
Why yes I do lay bricks! How did you know?
160 + 48 = 200
GENIUS.
No, it just has a limited synonym dictionary built in. SWIssMurderSUIT
so "baseball player" could be turned into "bash amoebas smallpox slayer"?
"Baseball" is in the latter
Strilanc, I got your code to work with some modifications:
int strcmp(char *a1, char *a2) {
for(; *a1; a1++) if(*a1 == *a2) a2++;
return !*a2;
}
those GLARES
brilliant
Fuckin' Larry!
...Oops, wrong game.
5:53 HOLD DAT!
YALL BE UPS DA RIVER
Ths is the best thing i've ever seen
4:35
The Hall family demands an explanation for this bullshit!
(I thought it was hilarious, it's just their faces! XD)
I like how the black people just sit there staring
oops i pressed it...are you serious?!
Abracadabra I win
I wish I knew this when I first played this at my uncle's house. Oh the fun I could have had with the shit programming.
Funniest video I've watched in a while.
3:08 "Getting real tired of your bullshit A family"
DEM HALLS GOT SERVED