I find Josée Chouinard was really the innocent collateral damage to the whole Tonya-Kerrigan drama. She could've had a shot at the medals but because of this drama, she missed this opportunity forever and this was her last Olympics too. She retired shortly afterwards, such an underrated and extraordinarily talented artist and athlete not to mention the incredible grace and sportsmanship.
Josee was coming in here in 9th place. She had no medal chances. She's enchanting but she was a short program skater, which she didn't demonstrate at the Olympics. She might have been rushed into starting her long program but what you saw here was her norm when the cameras were on. It was CLEAR that she had more talent than she showed. She also didn't completely retire either. She returned for a shot at redemption at the 1996 Canadian Nationals to continue her amateur career after a year as a pro. She failed to make the world team and promptly retired again.
I remember watching this even before Josee started I was shocked that they put her in such a position. What a bunch of crap to do this to her but she handled it elegantly like a first class lady. Josee you won the gold medal in Class for sure.
All the comments I'm reading below are about Tonya Harding. Let's not give her any more attention and focus on the grace and integrity that Josee demonstrated in this performance...which I'll always remember fondly for introducing me to "An American In Paris." Poise, wit, and charm...this program had it all. One of my all time faves.
Well, I just looked at her performance at the '94 Worlds. She actually did either better or the same here (she fell 3 times at Worlds and doubled a triple. I can't remember how many times she fell here and can't look again), so she was no "victim" of anything except her own pattern of performing.
I blame Tonya's coaches. They really should have extra equipment (laces, needle and thread for emergency costume repairs, even skates) ready for these types of situations. These situations seemed to happen frequently enough to give them a clue that they needed to be prepared.
@@aspenrobinson8797Thats like saying its a pilot's fault if his plane loses an engine. Its not a pilot's job to check every last part prior to takeoff. They have enough to do - thats why there are airplane mechanics. It's not Tonya's job either. Her job is to skate. It's those around her who's job it is to acquire proper equipment.
@@extra_ice_girl And that was almost the case. Chen Lu botched her short program, Surya Bonaly botched her long program, and none of the others were ever in contention. I am so glad that Oksana Baiul kept her nerves together, and beat out the bratty Nancy Kerrigan.
Here is my opportunity to explain for my intense dislike of Tonya, When Josee Chouinard fell, she didn't cry. But when Tonya Harding attempted to do her jump, she didn't complete it, but she did NOT fall. That is so hard for me to believe because I thought Tonya's should be mature enough to act like a little snotty child, crying to the judges and expecting them to believe her excuses such as a broken shoe lace.
Poor Josee. She was one of the most elegant skaters ever. I don't dislike Tonya but the lovely Ms. Chouinard should not have been penalized for Ms. Harding's lace problems. Unfair & just plain rude to Ms. Chouinard who should have been given the proper amount of warm up & readiness. Just plain WRONG. Josee actually had an (outside) chance at a medal & the judges ruined it for you. Ms. Chouinard, if it's any consultation, you are one of the loveliest & most enchanting skaters of your era.
I honestly feel that Josee would've given this same performance if everything had gone as planned b/c as you said, she was always consistently inconsistent with her programs.
You would think Tonya would have invested $4.00 in a brand new pair of nylon laces to put on the skates just before competing. Why allow laces to mess up the most important moment of your life. Skate laces are strong; they don't just snap with a few minutes of use.
Edmund Geswein THANKYOU. I THOUGHT THE SAME THING . I SEEN THEM and ONE SPOT THE ONE LACE ITSELF WAS tIED TOGETHER FOR GOD SAKE. CAN YOU IMAGINE..THE BIGGEST NIGHT OF YOUR.LIFE, WHAT YOU WORKED AND TRAINED FOR AND almost broke someone legs for !. All that and you or the coach couldnt get new laces! Unbelievable!
What would they have done, disqualified Josee if she had insisted upon warming up? She should have stood her ground. TV pressures and commercial logs really run the whole damn world.
Josee got a warm up. She was in the group that Tonya was in warming up to skate. She was called to skate a few minutes early, not called to skate without a warm up. Tonya was scheduled to go first, Josee second and Tonya's lace broke or whatever and she was called a little early. I think it was very chaotic and rushed backstage, but she did get a warm up.
you had to feel for this girl having to skate earlier after the tonya disaster. This was Josee's big chance on the oly stage and to have it affected like this just sad - nothing against Tonya but as the American commentators said why is it always Tonya. Likewise somewhow lucky Witt somehow beat many of these girls, she is a great competitior, but really under the new system no way would Witt do so well. Tonya and Witt had that uncanny ability to make it about them or to get the breaks. Tonya and her misfortunes - not saying they were on purpose and Witt with how everyone else crumbles for whatever reason.
If Tonya hadn't had a lace problem, wouldn't Josee still haven't taken the ice at approx the same time? (2 minute warning, 2 minutes on ice/talking to referee, 2 minutes to try and fix skate, Josee is called to the ice). How much prep time does she need?
It's like Tonya didn't know this moment was going to come. You would think you would do everything in your power to make sure you have everything you need to perform and everything is in working order way before you go out onto the ice. I mean I understand shit happens, but it always seemed to be happening to her. The outfit that didn't fit during nationals, her blade break in the Ladies Free Skate and now her shoelace, I mean come on.
That is exactly what I said 20 years ago as this was happening. Something was "always happening to Tonya." I also remember that the Olympic officials were trying to decide if Tonya could attend or not. When the final yes was relayed to her, she says to the press "Well, now I have to pack" or something dumb of that nature. One would think she would be ready to go, just in case.
Probably because she didn’t have alot of money she had faulty equipment but it is a coincidence this happened, but tonya was also late to the olympics so she wasn’t ready to go skate. I feel for josee but out of both women tonya had way more pressure and outperformed her.
@@itsallgoodman1244 Tonya wasn't poor, I don't know why everyone says that. The 94 olympics was at the end of her career, she was a pro skater for 15 years before that and won lots of money in competitions. And just like every other Olympics athlete Tonya had sponsors backing her. Most people can't afford golf plated figure skates.
@@itsallgoodman1244she was a millionaire by then so she could afford a new pair of skates, and definitely spare skate laces. She had no excuses anymore at this point. I'm glad they banned her for life.
Point is Tonya knew very well how to "work" the system. And to her satisfaction, it indeed worked every time. It's nonsense the way she always tries to victimize herself when speaking of the Kerrigan incident. She is sick for doing what she did. It's funny how they changed the rules for such foolery now, with deductions for equipment failure
sweenny seeker I do think having the issue fixed so you can't go back to the last spot and restart is fair enough. The deduction for the failure seems harsh, I agree.
The fact that this happened all the tie to Tonya seems a bit suspect. I think the rule is better now, you get it fixed and continue from where you left off. I wonder if this type of thing is the reason for a deduction now for equipment, to avoid drama like this. This is similar to what happened to Mao Asada at the 2005 World Juniors and to Nobunari Oda, minus the drama. Poor Josee, it had to throw off her preparation.
I remember watching this live and felt so bad for this young lady. She handled the situation the best she could and never pointed fingers as far as I remember but I'm sure if that stupid drama queen Tonya Harding hadn't pulled that little stunt, Josee could have performed a lot better.
The thing about this is figure skating at the Olympics has never been fair. Ever. The way the competition goes always has controversy and criticism. Last Olympics, there was a lot of debate between Medvedeva and Zagitova. Medvedeva did a deep and meaningful routine with a message. Zagitova had a routine that did all the things to get bonus points. People were infuriated. The Olympics before that, Plushenko was the only one to successfully do a quad, but because he did it at the beginning of the program, he got silver, and the gold medalist was not someone who could do a quad. In 2002, there was an incident of a judge being bribed to give a better score to one of the pairs. 1994? This situation. Before that? Oh boy.
Wow, it made me almost HOWL when Tonya Harding was literally surrounded by women trying to 'fix' her shoe lace. It reminded me of an ice princess completely surrounded by her admiring 'suitors'.
Tonya is still a brat. I bet Tonya faked the shoe lace crap. She knew that the officials were on to her. It was only a matter of time before the truth came out that she was behind Nancy's attack. Nancy skated beautifully and probably should have won the gold, but the judges wanted Oksana to win. I felt bad for Josee. You could tell that her timing was off because she wasn't ready to skate. You could hear the sadness in her voice when she said this was her last Olympics.
tonya was never found guilty of anything and all the shit she was put through was unfair, she was an innocent victim in the whole nancy thing. get over the media hype. she couldnt even train for this olympics without crowds and cameras flashing. those men wanted to ruin her career and they did.
***** Guilty to hindering prosecution, not telling about what she FOUND OUT after the incident. She never plead guilty to attacking anyone. because she had nothing to do with that
Chris Coyne Tonya was the sole solicitor behind this attack and she wanted broken legs not a brusied knee. I would like to see her ex hibands take on a movie..see who the abuser was in his memory .Tonya destroyed her own career .
There is no excuse for equipment malfunction at this level of competition, especially with figure skates that cost more than a mortgage or rent payment! This was so unfair to Josee!
Lets face it though, this performance was right in line with what Josee usually does. Thats the problem with being inconsistent; when an external circumstance does come, people dont know if it was the unfair event that caused the problem or your shitty nerves
Why were the landings of all of her jumps (not just here but in other competitions as well) seem so shaky? She seems to have a tendency of landing on stiff knee, and upper body leaning farther forward over her toe than most other skaters?
Everyone forget's that the judges are the ones that decided to have Tonya skate last and are the ones who called Josee up to skate she had nothing to do w the decision they made. Tonya's coaches should have been prepared, that's there job to make sure there skater is prepared and ready to go, and they risked her getting injured because the boot wasn't secured properly. I feel for Tonya cause she was the product of being around and being influenced buy the wrong kind of people, she had all the talent in the world but never could quite reach her potential, and it's sad cause watching her skate she had moments where she was wonderful.
Tonya Harding did her dirty. Proof enough to me that Harding was guilty as sin because she was sociopathic enough to pull a similar stunt to wreck another skater DURING A COMPETITION.
You cannot blame Tonya Harding for having a problem with her skate, although she should've most likely have laced them up much earlier, just to be ready. Jose Chou. could've fallen in her program either way. It was not right to put the blame on Tanya for that. It was really, really inconsiderate of the commentator and interviewer to do that to Tanya. Sorry to say, but shallow people like to make more drama out of pointless things. Really mean people below.
Thank you for pointing all this out. I believe that Josee said in her interview that they told her to come out when she was ready. So she needed have rushed to get out there if she didn't want to or felt she needed more time to get to the ice.
At the time, it didn't seem like a big thing before she got onto the ice... that is, until she was in the air. You know how sometimes when you jump in the air, that's when you notice that something is really wrong? She was going to do her triple toe loop, but once she was in the air, she noticed that something wasn't right, which resulted in her popping it. Good thing, too. If she went ahead with it, she could've broken her ankle. :(
I still feel for Tonya, I guess, but my heavens! This was the OLYMPICS!! Shouldn't you be prepared with A LOT of backup pairs of skates? And maybe an extra outfit for her too, since hers was obviously too small! As for Josee Chouinard being rushed to skate her routine, this was all completely unfair to her, needless to say, though not necessarily Tonya's fault. I think the Olympic committee should've just waited until the time Josee was originally scheduled to skate, as if Tonya had skated.
You make a good point about being prepared. It showed at Skate America earlier in the season when her blade came loose and before that at Nationals where her dress came undone. When something like this happens 3 times to one skater, where usually it happens never, it suggests a lack of preparedness. And she was my favorite skater then. But she really made some bad choices.
Not only that, if she was a true professional she wouldn't have asked her loser husband to attack a competitor, and she would have had enough class to have kept her unprepared ass as far away from Norway as humanly possible. The saddest part of all is is that Harding was actually a very very talented skater before she ruined her life and reputation.
It was clear that the holdup caused by Tonya led to Josee, who was scheduled immediately after her, to lose her concentration and readiness. As a result, she committed the mishap that led Tonya to finish ahead of her in the standings after she had been behind Josee going into the long program.
You know I would not be surprised if we someday learn that Tonya herself orchestrated the problem with her boot in an attempt to get sympathy from the crowd and to eliminate a competitor by making Josee's performance more stressful.
It was so ridiculous that she was made to skate right away. Couldn't they have given everyone a 10 minute break?? The crowd could've went to the bathroom and grabbed another Coke, Josee could've prepared herself and Tonya could've attended to her boot. I mean, what was the damn rush??? 🙄
There is nothing wrong with her skates only with her character. Highly unethical and unprofessional on the judges and Tonya's part....she just could not make it under pressure and cracked and to put Josee on the spot like that...shame on them! I remember watching this Olympics and felt so ashamed that the name Tonya Harding was associated with the sport of ice-skating and America because it ruined and tainted not only the sport but the athletes themselves....even after watching it after all these years I find myself once again appalled, angry and disgusted by the events surrounding the train wreck/nightmare that was Tonya Harding..... and the fact that such behavior was allowed by the skating committee was a further disgrace, in fact so much so that they implemented changes we see today in order to prevent such events from occurring again. The only positive aspect of this story is that ice-skating finally got some attention while underscoring the sleazy politics of Olympics in general.
Ugh like I said, Tonya was such a cleaver person. Always looking for something to save her performance. Dress malfunction, unnoticed loose blade, cracking up Kerrigan's knee caps, untied shoe laces.. it just is ridiculous. She is an infamous cheater and desperate sore looser. Love her triple axels though.
Dee Zyre Tonya's intention was to have Nancy's leg broke, just lucky for Nancy it was just badly bruised. Tonya was the solicitor behind that attack and after watching 'I, Tonya' she makes my skin crawl more now than ever. I can't beleive she eats with that mouth on her..what a skuzzy woman ! She would lie if the truth made a better movie. Lol .
That is a complete lie... as a national Figure skater myself the White system works in a comparison between skaters... Tonya should have prepared extra laces but it wasnt Tonya's or josee's fault. The OIC did this Olympics so sloppy
I personally would've sued Tanya. It's the Olympics for crying out loud. You don't act like that. You have to have your shit together. You not only represent yourself but you represented the United States and this is how u.acted..very Ryde and unprofessional. If I were other skaters I.would've sued Tanya the skating union, the Olympics for allowing Tanya to.skate at all...that's WHAT other skaters should've done. They should've gotten together and threaten to sue since Tanya was allowed to skate.
+Tyler Chandler "You have to have your shit together." if that is the case, wouldn't it be true then for Josee as well? Josee should have pulled her shit together as well. She and she alone is responsible for her failed routine. A great skater should have been able to do the routine she had done hundreds of times over in practice, in competition as well. No matter when she was put on the ice. Tanya's lace was broken. Enough to the point that the JUDGE granted her extra time to fix it. If it wasn't legitimate, the woman wouldn't have granted that time to Tanya. Things like that happen all the time and it doesn't matter if it was the olympics... Its not like she broke it on purpose... But blaming someone else for a failed jump is stupid. Despite all of that, it would be dumb to sue because guess what... Tanya got her win stripped from her and was BANNED for life from the USFSA. What more could be done? They took everything she had away from her already.
I this this was so unfair Harding should have been giving time to fix her lace if she did not get it fix by the time she should have bee disqualify. But the Canadian skater was place at a disadvantage. Deviouspinkies is writing a lot of shit
I don’t think it’s fair to remark fault to a person if something goes wrong with someone else’s performance like the announcer, Scott did. I’m not a supporter of Tonya, personally I don’t even like her. However the young lady that skated next should really be ready to go, mentally on board if all were to go according to plan the program would be about 10 minuets away. She was a graceful dancer and beautiful to watch but she fell on her own landings, Tonya didn’t physically make that happen yet they blame her for it. That’s just wrong in my opinion, they have time to warm up, stretch while getting ready, and practice skating in the morning so if your program isn’t ready by that point it’s not going to be & everybody has off days skaters do fall. You can’t blame that on someone else, off . With Tonya I think the judges could have disqualified Tonya if they had reason to but there was something wrong with her skate, it was all mangled looking, so if anything she really hurt herself if you want blame peoples mental state of being ready to perform. Going on the ice, looking stupid, coming off, people judging you already and them going back on her nerves must have been shocked by that point. Tonya didn’t go out and give a stellar performance thereafter.
Oh, don't apologize for your comment. I don't like her any more than you do. I was just speaking from a logical perspective. Otherwise, I can't stand the woman. Good riddance to bad rubbish is all I have to say about her. :p
It's a good thing she didn't break any bones??? Sorry, but I had to chuckle a bit at that comment. I think that may have been the best example of karmic retribution ever witnessed in sports.
I would’ve said no if I was Josee and taken the amount of time I would’ve had normally.. wth.. why would I accept being rushed because of hot mess tonya and her BS?
Absolutely no offence to ms choinard, but come on it wasn't like it was days too early, it was a few minutes. Am tired of hearing how fragile skaters psyches are. A true athlete who has her routine down should not go into meltdown because of a few minutes. And she had a spotty career at best.
I agree. Michael Phelps's coach would make him practice hungry, cold, different times, ect. He'd change things up because you have to have your A game in adversity. Also, a lot of elite gymnasts would practice their routines with the music stopping to make sure they could handle an interruption.
Jose gets an honorary medal for poise and sportsmanship.
I find Josée Chouinard was really the innocent collateral damage to the whole Tonya-Kerrigan drama. She could've had a shot at the medals but because of this drama, she missed this opportunity forever and this was her last Olympics too. She retired shortly afterwards, such an underrated and extraordinarily talented artist and athlete not to mention the incredible grace and sportsmanship.
Let's not be dramatic, Josee always had long program issues.
Josee was coming in here in 9th place. She had no medal chances. She's enchanting but she was a short program skater, which she didn't demonstrate at the Olympics.
She might have been rushed into starting her long program but what you saw here was her norm when the cameras were on. It was CLEAR that she had more talent than she showed.
She also didn't completely retire either. She returned for a shot at redemption at the 1996 Canadian Nationals to continue her amateur career after a year as a pro. She failed to make the world team and promptly retired again.
I remember watching this even before Josee started I was shocked that they put her in such a position. What a bunch of crap to do this to her but she handled it elegantly like a first class lady. Josee you won the gold medal in Class for sure.
Tonya Harding's gamesmanship knew no bounds, no wonder the crowd booed her.
All the comments I'm reading below are about Tonya Harding. Let's not give her any more attention and focus on the grace and integrity that Josee demonstrated in this performance...which I'll always remember fondly for introducing me to "An American In Paris." Poise, wit, and charm...this program had it all. One of my all time faves.
philipcwong Well said :) Josee was one of the nicest skaters you can ever meet, she wore her heart on her sleeve. One of my favourites :)
Well, I just looked at her performance at the '94 Worlds. She actually did either better or the same here (she fell 3 times at Worlds and doubled a triple. I can't remember how many times she fell here and can't look again), so she was no "victim" of anything except her own pattern of performing.
I blame Tonya's coaches. They really should have extra equipment (laces, needle and thread for emergency costume repairs, even skates) ready for these types of situations. These situations seemed to happen frequently enough to give them a clue that they needed to be prepared.
victoria grant Blame someone just not Tonya..seems to be a running theme with her.
@@aspenrobinson8797Thats like saying its a pilot's fault if his plane loses an engine. Its not a pilot's job to check every last part prior to takeoff. They have enough to do - thats why there are airplane mechanics. It's not Tonya's job either. Her job is to skate. It's those around her who's job it is to acquire proper equipment.
man if i was josee i would be sooooo pissed off
I too, was mesmerized with Josee's beauty and style. And she did not flaunt her considerable talents.
She was pretty, but I wouldn't say a consid. talent. Maybe she didn't have her thoughts together.
This Olympics was a hot mess..
They decided before the games no American was going to take home the Gold unless every major contender had a melt down.
@@extra_ice_girl And that was almost the case. Chen Lu botched her short program, Surya Bonaly botched her long program, and none of the others were ever in contention. I am so glad that Oksana Baiul kept her nerves together, and beat out the bratty Nancy Kerrigan.
@@extra_ice_girlthey also decided they didn't want Katerina winning it either
Here is my opportunity to explain for my intense dislike of Tonya, When Josee Chouinard fell, she didn't cry. But when Tonya Harding attempted to do her jump, she didn't complete it, but she did NOT fall. That is so hard for me to believe because I thought Tonya's should be mature enough to act like a little snotty child, crying to the judges and expecting them to believe her excuses such as a broken shoe lace.
why would they not have emergency replacements at the olympics?? like a replacement lace is 2 dollars
I know right like how do they not have extra laces i blame the olympic commitee
Poor Josee. She was one of the most elegant skaters ever. I don't dislike Tonya but the lovely Ms. Chouinard should not have been penalized for Ms. Harding's lace problems. Unfair & just plain rude to Ms. Chouinard who should have been given the proper amount of warm up & readiness. Just plain WRONG. Josee actually had an (outside) chance at a medal & the judges ruined it for you. Ms. Chouinard, if it's any consultation, you are one of the loveliest & most enchanting skaters of your era.
*consolation
She wasn't penalized.
That was unfair to her :-(
I honestly feel that Josee would've given this same performance if everything had gone as planned b/c as you said, she was always consistently inconsistent with her programs.
Excellent point!
josee choinard is a beautiful woman i was so pulling for her,she reminds me of mary from little house on the prarie.
Très belle performance de Josée Chouinard!! La fierté québécoise!!!
she did so well despite the little stunt with harding :( a true athlete to have such a strong personality
Aw Josee I remember this, and I feel your disappointment and sadness! I still thought you did amazing.🤗😍
You would think Tonya would have invested $4.00 in a brand new pair of nylon laces to put on the skates just before competing. Why allow laces to mess up the most important moment of your life. Skate laces are strong; they don't just snap with a few minutes of use.
Edmund Geswein THANKYOU. I THOUGHT THE SAME THING . I SEEN THEM and ONE SPOT THE ONE LACE ITSELF WAS tIED TOGETHER FOR GOD SAKE. CAN YOU IMAGINE..THE BIGGEST NIGHT OF YOUR.LIFE, WHAT YOU WORKED AND TRAINED FOR AND almost broke someone legs for !. All that and you or the coach couldnt get new laces! Unbelievable!
as much as I agree, you can see on some pictures that when she shows her boot to the panel the whole top left part is broken.
What would they have done, disqualified Josee if she had insisted upon warming up? She should have stood her ground. TV pressures and commercial logs really run the whole damn world.
Yeah, it seems like they're pretty lenient on the skaters so I think she should have protested for a warmup.
Josee got a warm up. She was in the group that Tonya was in warming up to skate. She was called to skate a few minutes early, not called to skate without a warm up. Tonya was scheduled to go first, Josee second and Tonya's lace broke or whatever and she was called a little early. I think it was very chaotic and rushed backstage, but she did get a warm up.
BBB41414 They talk like Jose didn't have 2 years to prepare by going a couple minutes early . She would of fell either way.
that ending breaks my heart
Josée was by far the prettiest one.
this is a 5.8…5.9 artistic program across the board…regardless of the falls. but she fell the same amount of times at the world championships.
you had to feel for this girl having to skate earlier after the tonya disaster. This was Josee's big chance on the oly stage and to have it affected like this just sad - nothing against Tonya but as the American commentators said why is it always Tonya. Likewise somewhow lucky Witt somehow beat many of these girls, she is a great competitior, but really under the new system no way would Witt do so well. Tonya and Witt had that uncanny ability to make it about them or to get the breaks. Tonya and her misfortunes - not saying they were on purpose and Witt with how everyone else crumbles for whatever reason.
josee looks like dora the explorer in that outfit
Love her!💖🙌✊
If Tonya hadn't had a lace problem, wouldn't Josee still haven't taken the ice at approx the same time? (2 minute warning, 2 minutes on ice/talking to referee, 2 minutes to try and fix skate, Josee is called to the ice). How much prep time does she need?
It's like Tonya didn't know this moment was going to come. You would think you would do everything in your power to make sure you have everything you need to perform and everything is in working order way before you go out onto the ice. I mean I understand shit happens, but it always seemed to be happening to her. The outfit that didn't fit during nationals, her blade break in the Ladies Free Skate and now her shoelace, I mean come on.
That is exactly what I said 20 years ago as this was happening. Something was "always happening to Tonya." I also remember that the Olympic officials were trying to decide if Tonya could attend or not. When the final yes was relayed to her, she says to the press "Well, now I have to pack" or something dumb of that nature. One would think she would be ready to go, just in case.
Marsha Smith Just sad, she was really talented, I just don't understand all the antics.
Probably because she didn’t have alot of money she had faulty equipment but it is a coincidence this happened, but tonya was also late to the olympics so she wasn’t ready to go skate. I feel for josee but out of both women tonya had way more pressure and outperformed her.
@@itsallgoodman1244 Tonya wasn't poor, I don't know why everyone says that. The 94 olympics was at the end of her career, she was a pro skater for 15 years before that and won lots of money in competitions. And just like every other Olympics athlete Tonya had sponsors backing her. Most people can't afford golf plated figure skates.
@@itsallgoodman1244she was a millionaire by then so she could afford a new pair of skates, and definitely spare skate laces. She had no excuses anymore at this point. I'm glad they banned her for life.
why didn't tanya go to the referreee before starting for the first time? if there was such a problem
Point is Tonya knew very well how to "work" the system. And to her satisfaction, it indeed worked every time. It's nonsense the way she always tries to victimize herself when speaking of the Kerrigan incident. She is sick for doing what she did. It's funny how they changed the rules for such foolery now, with deductions for equipment failure
Dee Zyre Yeah that's not really fair to people who have legitimate unexpected equipment failure
sweenny seeker I do think having the issue fixed so you can't go back to the last spot and restart is fair enough. The deduction for the failure seems harsh, I agree.
The fact that this happened all the tie to Tonya seems a bit suspect. I think the rule is better now, you get it fixed and continue from where you left off. I wonder if this type of thing is the reason for a deduction now for equipment, to avoid drama like this. This is similar to what happened to Mao Asada at the 2005 World Juniors and to Nobunari Oda, minus the drama. Poor Josee, it had to throw off her preparation.
I remember watching this live and felt so bad for this young lady. She handled the situation the best she could and never pointed fingers as far as I remember but I'm sure if that stupid drama queen Tonya Harding hadn't pulled that little stunt, Josee could have performed a lot better.
It was a nice comment until the *drama queen*... whatever
The thing about this is figure skating at the Olympics has never been fair. Ever. The way the competition goes always has controversy and criticism.
Last Olympics, there was a lot of debate between Medvedeva and Zagitova. Medvedeva did a deep and meaningful routine with a message. Zagitova had a routine that did all the things to get bonus points. People were infuriated.
The Olympics before that, Plushenko was the only one to successfully do a quad, but because he did it at the beginning of the program, he got silver, and the gold medalist was not someone who could do a quad.
In 2002, there was an incident of a judge being bribed to give a better score to one of the pairs.
1994? This situation.
Before that? Oh boy.
Wow, it made me almost HOWL when Tonya Harding was literally surrounded by women trying to 'fix' her shoe lace. It reminded me of an ice princess completely surrounded by her admiring 'suitors'.
Tonya is still a brat. I bet Tonya faked the shoe lace crap. She knew that the officials were on to her. It was only a matter of time before the truth came out that she was behind Nancy's attack. Nancy skated beautifully and probably should have won the gold, but the judges wanted Oksana to win. I felt bad for Josee. You could tell that her timing was off because she wasn't ready to skate. You could hear the sadness in her voice when she said this was her last Olympics.
tonya was never found guilty of anything and all the shit she was put through was unfair, she was an innocent victim in the whole nancy thing. get over the media hype. she couldnt even train for this olympics without crowds and cameras flashing. those men wanted to ruin her career and they did.
+Chris Coyne she actually was, she plead guilty after this
***** Guilty to hindering prosecution, not telling about what she FOUND OUT after the incident. She never plead guilty to attacking anyone. because she had nothing to do with that
Chris Coyne Tonya was the sole solicitor behind this attack and she wanted broken legs not a brusied knee. I would like to see her ex hibands take on a movie..see who the abuser was in his memory .Tonya destroyed her own career .
There is no excuse for equipment malfunction at this level of competition, especially with figure skates that cost more than a mortgage or rent payment! This was so unfair to Josee!
Poor Josee. Tonya ruined stuff for everybody.
This was actually very good
Very well spoken.
Lets face it though, this performance was right in line with what Josee usually does. Thats the problem with being inconsistent; when an external circumstance does come, people dont know if it was the unfair event that caused the problem or your shitty nerves
Why were the landings of all of her jumps (not just here but in other competitions as well) seem so shaky? She seems to have a tendency of landing on stiff knee, and upper body leaning farther forward over her toe than most other skaters?
Can't believe Tanya Harding cried over a broken lace. Ummm, I think it's a lot harder to skate with a bashed in leg.
Everyone forget's that the judges are the ones that decided to have Tonya skate last and are the ones who called Josee up to skate she had nothing to do w the decision they made. Tonya's coaches should have been prepared, that's there job to make sure there skater is prepared and ready to go, and they risked her getting injured because the boot wasn't secured properly. I feel for Tonya cause she was the product of being around and being influenced buy the wrong kind of people, she had all the talent in the world but never could quite reach her potential, and it's sad cause watching her skate she had moments where she was wonderful.
Tonya Harding did her dirty. Proof enough to me that Harding was guilty as sin because she was sociopathic enough to pull a similar stunt to wreck another skater DURING A COMPETITION.
5.1 for artistic...no way!!! much better than that
LMFAO!!!! Thanks for the comment...that made my day!
Josee wasn't going to perform much better. This skate was exactly what she normally delivered. Sans that ONE Canadian Nationals skate.🤦♂️
You cannot blame Tonya Harding for having a problem with her skate, although she should've most likely have laced them up much earlier, just to be ready. Jose Chou. could've fallen in her program either way. It was not right to put the blame on Tanya for that. It was really, really inconsiderate of the commentator and interviewer to do that to Tanya. Sorry to say, but shallow people like to make more drama out of pointless things. Really mean people below.
Thank you for pointing all this out. I believe that Josee said in her interview that they told her to come out when she was ready. So she needed have rushed to get out there if she didn't want to or felt she needed more time to get to the ice.
At the time, it didn't seem like a big thing before she got onto the ice... that is, until she was in the air. You know how sometimes when you jump in the air, that's when you notice that something is really wrong? She was going to do her triple toe loop, but once she was in the air, she noticed that something wasn't right, which resulted in her popping it. Good thing, too. If she went ahead with it, she could've broken her ankle. :(
Drama Queen Tonya certainly caused havoc for Josée Chouinard unfortunately!!
I still feel for Tonya, I guess, but my heavens! This was the OLYMPICS!! Shouldn't you be prepared with A LOT of backup pairs of skates? And maybe an extra outfit for her too, since hers was obviously too small! As for Josee Chouinard being rushed to skate her routine, this was all completely unfair to her, needless to say, though not necessarily Tonya's fault. I think the Olympic committee should've just waited until the time Josee was originally scheduled to skate, as if Tonya had skated.
You make a good point about being prepared. It showed at Skate America earlier in the season when her blade came loose and before that at Nationals where her dress came undone. When something like this happens 3 times to one skater, where usually it happens never, it suggests a lack of preparedness. And she was my favorite skater then. But she really made some bad choices.
Will this be your last Olympics... yes 😭
I don't think Josee did skate any sooner than if Tonya had carried on skating with out the tears and confusion.
Not only that, if she was a true professional she wouldn't have asked her loser husband to attack a competitor, and she would have had enough class to have kept her unprepared ass as far away from Norway as humanly possible. The saddest part of all is is that Harding was actually a very very talented skater before she ruined her life and reputation.
did Tanya skate after Josee, or did another girl go next?
that ending commentary breaks my heart
Let's see how much she cries with a shattered knee.
if she was a true professional. she would have had an extra set of laces and gotten prepared! she was looking for sympathy.
It was clear that the holdup caused by Tonya led to Josee, who was scheduled immediately after her, to lose her concentration and readiness. As a result, she committed the mishap that led Tonya to finish ahead of her in the standings after she had been behind Josee going into the long program.
You know I would not be surprised if we someday learn that Tonya herself orchestrated the problem with her boot in an attempt to get sympathy from the crowd and to eliminate a competitor by making Josee's performance more stressful.
And, of course, she went on to star in the White Trashcapades.
It was so ridiculous that she was made to skate right away. Couldn't they have given everyone a 10 minute break?? The crowd could've went to the bathroom and grabbed another Coke, Josee could've prepared herself and Tonya could've attended to her boot. I mean, what was the damn rush??? 🙄
This is Tonya Harding, not Josee Choinard. doh! WTF
There is nothing wrong with her skates only with her character. Highly unethical and unprofessional on the judges and Tonya's part....she just could not make it under pressure and cracked and to put Josee on the spot like that...shame on them! I remember watching this Olympics and felt so ashamed that the name Tonya Harding was associated with the sport of ice-skating and America because it ruined and tainted not only the sport but the athletes themselves....even after watching it after all these years I find myself once again appalled, angry and disgusted by the events surrounding the train wreck/nightmare that was Tonya Harding..... and the fact that such behavior was allowed by the skating committee was a further disgrace, in fact so much so that they implemented changes we see today in order to prevent such events from occurring again. The only positive aspect of this story is that ice-skating finally got some attention while underscoring the sleazy politics of Olympics in general.
and btw as of almost 16 years ago there has been no Tonya Harding issues. But you can catch her on World wildest videos :)
Josee had more natural talent but lacked all of Elizabeth Manley's moxie.
Ugh like I said, Tonya was such a cleaver person. Always looking for something to save her performance. Dress malfunction, unnoticed loose blade, cracking up Kerrigan's knee caps, untied shoe laces.. it just is ridiculous. She is an infamous cheater and desperate sore looser. Love her triple axels though.
Dee Zyre Tonya's intention was to have Nancy's leg broke, just lucky for Nancy it was just badly bruised. Tonya was the solicitor behind that attack and after watching 'I, Tonya' she makes my skin crawl more now than ever. I can't beleive she eats with that mouth on her..what a skuzzy woman ! She would lie if the truth made a better movie. Lol .
She looks like Kristen Bell
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She pulled that crying poor me bullshit because she knew the later you skate in the order, the higher they judges will score you.
That is a complete lie... as a national Figure skater myself the White system works in a comparison between skaters... Tonya should have prepared extra laces but it wasnt Tonya's or josee's fault. The OIC did this Olympics so sloppy
I personally would've sued Tanya. It's the Olympics for crying out loud. You don't act like that. You have to have your shit together. You not only represent yourself but you represented the United States and this is how u.acted..very Ryde and unprofessional. If I were other skaters I.would've sued Tanya the skating union, the Olympics for allowing Tanya to.skate at all...that's WHAT other skaters should've done. They should've gotten together and threaten to sue since Tanya was allowed to skate.
+Tyler Chandler "You have to have your shit together." if that is the case, wouldn't it be true then for Josee as well? Josee should have pulled her shit together as well. She and she alone is responsible for her failed routine. A great skater should have been able to do the routine she had done hundreds of times over in practice, in competition as well. No matter when she was put on the ice. Tanya's lace was broken. Enough to the point that the JUDGE granted her extra time to fix it. If it wasn't legitimate, the woman wouldn't have granted that time to Tanya. Things like that happen all the time and it doesn't matter if it was the olympics... Its not like she broke it on purpose... But blaming someone else for a failed jump is stupid. Despite all of that, it would be dumb to sue because guess what... Tanya got her win stripped from her and was BANNED for life from the USFSA. What more could be done? They took everything she had away from her already.
Sue her? On what grounds? Where are the financial damages?
I this this was so unfair Harding should have been giving time to fix her lace if she did not get it fix by the time she should have bee disqualify. But the Canadian skater was place at a disadvantage. Deviouspinkies is writing a lot of shit
If you can skate it doesn't matter..when you go on
i dont think it would have made a difference
7:13 *snort*
If anyone deserved a do over... Poor girl. What a nightmare.
Another Tonya drama. Josee’ deserved the 2nd chance.
What is the song she's skating to???
Gershwin's "An American In Paris."
I don’t think it’s fair to remark fault to a person if something goes wrong with someone else’s performance like the announcer, Scott did. I’m not a supporter of Tonya, personally I don’t even like her. However the young lady that skated next should really be ready to go, mentally on board if all were to go according to plan the program would be about 10 minuets away. She was a graceful dancer and beautiful to watch but she fell on her own landings, Tonya didn’t physically make that happen yet they blame her for it. That’s just wrong in my opinion, they have time to warm up, stretch while getting ready, and practice skating in the morning so if your program isn’t ready by that point it’s not going to be & everybody has off days skaters do fall. You can’t blame that on someone else, off . With Tonya I think the judges could have disqualified Tonya if they had reason to but there was something wrong with her skate, it was all mangled looking, so if anything she really hurt herself if you want blame peoples mental state of being ready to perform. Going on the ice, looking stupid, coming off, people judging you already and them going back on her nerves must have been shocked by that point. Tonya didn’t go out and give a stellar performance thereafter.
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A textbook histrionic drama queen!
Oh, don't apologize for your comment. I don't like her any more than you do. I was just speaking from a logical perspective. Otherwise, I can't stand the woman. Good riddance to bad rubbish is all I have to say about her. :p
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Typical UA-cam troll:Hurling insults when all else fails.If my comments are so poor don't bother replying.
It's a good thing she didn't break any bones??? Sorry, but I had to chuckle a bit at that comment. I think that may have been the best example of karmic retribution ever witnessed in sports.
Those gold blades are so tacky.
I would’ve said no if I was Josee and taken the amount of time I would’ve had normally.. wth.. why would I accept being rushed because of hot mess tonya and her BS?
Absolutely no offence to ms choinard, but come on it wasn't like it was days too early, it was a few minutes. Am tired of hearing how fragile skaters psyches are. A true athlete who has her routine down should not go into meltdown because of a few minutes. And she had a spotty career at best.
Dakotaangel1 I could say the same thing about Tonya.
I agree. Michael Phelps's coach would make him practice hungry, cold, different times, ect. He'd change things up because you have to have your A game in adversity.
Also, a lot of elite gymnasts would practice their routines with the music stopping to make sure they could handle an interruption.
Josee was going to skate horrible no matter what. She was a head case and incredibly inconsistent
No matter what order this is the usual hot mess of a program from Josee.
Kind of an asshole remark eh? slow clap for the simpleton
Yeah that step sequence was, well, it wasn't pretty.
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vistaprime I have to agree. I have followed skating since 1970's and this is Josee's normal routine .
Super unfair
She looks like Kristen Bell