I really like it. So far I reached loop 6 as solo. Abd honestly it better to play solo. Cause it will be up to you which room you choose. In co-op everyone decides, which im not a fan of
Solo is way easier for the nemesis than in coop, we are regularly doing raid/legendary content, countdown heroic etc, and oh by the nemesis are way too powerful in group of 3-4 it instantly kill Solo is okay
Ive played it for about 6 hours so far and my advice is to hit the nsa table to the right of the entrance and put all your points in to armor on kill. Next is to hope you get a rifle or m60 in your weapon choices. No surprise that m1a is king here. Things like booster hive and demolisher are great. I got really lucky at one point got an attack drone but the firefly is just as good. My number one suggestion though is, do not sleep on sandman. It was by far the most helpful exotic talent. Take your time to look around too , sometimes the game doesn't always make it obvious when theres a kit box or buy table available. Its not like the main campaign. Think outside the box. Talents that usually get skipped are really good here. Think trauma and entrenched. Personally i wouldn't worry about crit chance, but most importantly, be happy if you get the emp sticky or jammer pulse. They might not matter at first but once the black tusk arrive you'll be glad you picked them. Dont waste credits on extra skill or weapon choices as they don't allow you to swap on the fly but rather just give you an additional option at the buy station between loops after you beat a hvt, you still only get to carry 2 weapons and 2 skills. Stack armor and armor on kill as med kits are too precious. The aim assist is turned off in descent so weapon handling has a much greater impact, especially on pistols which are what you should rely on until the 4th loop. Lastly, dont pick rooms based on difficulty. Go by what cores they offer as reward. If you need more utility, go by whichever room offers yellow cores same for whatever else. (Also , talents that you might not usually consider to be in a certain category will actually show up there, meaning sandman and braced are yellow takents because they are seen as utility by the game but firerate is red. It's a little bit of an adjustment at first to predict what will have a chance of being an option for reward but its easy to pick up). Dont worry if you die, just learn from it and keep pushing. Gg
The problem is unless you can 100 percent kill the nemesis every time it’s pointless to play descent. But the nemesis kills you in four bullets, while you can run out of ammo without missing and dude still has half his armor
@TECHNO-GAMER-Kun uh... you can play countdown, gets tons of dropped items, can buy whatever crate you want, get multiple named items dropped at your feet... all in 15 minutes. This is hours of work... for nothing dropped. A couple crates.
I would recommend to EVERYONE to get the "Easy Breathing" Brass Knuckle exotic talent from Lady Death if you see it. I probably used the wrong name, but the sheer scaling of damage that you get from that is amazing. You can literally cover to cover run or just walk around a bit and boom, 75% damage bonus for your next magazine (much MUCH more buffs for single fire weapons like Shotguns and Marksman rifles). It's hands down the best talent in there and pairs with any build idea I've thought of so far. Also forgot to mention that since you're always running to the next room, you always start a battle with a full damage boost already charged up 👌🏾👌🏾
Agree on using weapons / skills that suit this mode I finished it for first time and one skill that helped me a lot (a lot !) Was the shrapnel trap. Throw it in front of the door they spawn and you can just focus on another door . I do hate that you cant save your progress after loops. It's too long. Not everyone has 2-3 hour sit downs. I finished it after 7th loop and couldn't continue playing as I didn't have time. Sucks to lose that progress
Traps are absolutely busted in room clearing in this mode. Biggest challenge is covering your back and the traps will absolutely lock down 1 (or even 2) doors.
I just jumped back into Div 2 and this mode is my new favorite! What an addictive game play loop. I'm definitely going to play this till my permanents are maxed! : ) awesome video man! I'm late but I'm here now lol
As a new player I am really enjoying this mode but I can understand how veterans could be disappointed by it. As a new player it’s great because you get to encounter a lot of mechanics that you wouldn’t see early on in the Story.
Been loving descent and that’s the best advice I been choosing only hard rooms to be better prepared for nemesis and definitely use my sidearm often to save on ammo
Conserve ammo early loops with alot of pistols (and trauma) to spend more credits at later loop. Only bring out primaries if you need burst damage or close quarter combat.
A few tips; - Avoid the sticky bomb, at least for now. It seems to be bugger and nearly got me killed several times. What can happen is you go to fire it and the it will not actually let you detonate it or take cover. Swapping weapons will alleviate this but you still can't trigger the bomb. It's not 100% but why take the risk. 2 - Save up for the 4th talent unlock first, trust me this absolutely should be the first priority because I have run into cases where after 3 talent rerolls I got nothing helpful 3 - Speaking of which, never do more than 2 rerolls. Each successive reroll costs more, in fact I would suggest just using the skip option if nothing goog comes up after a single reroll those credits are valuable. 4 - The Bullet King Exotic talent is by far the best. It's ludicrously broken especially on shotguns. Also Sandman is largely junk, but it will actually one-shot enemies with shields if you melee their shield (very helpful when being rushed) 5 - Last one is again about shotguns - they are the best thing to buy special ammo for especially Hollow Point Bullets. I bought some for my 870 on one run and the game have like 120 rounds - which is just crazy on a shotgun.
@@hamishblair7504 Oh I hadn't even considered that, maybe that's why I had so many HP Rounds. I just remember seeing 120+ with the 870 and thinking "I am become Death, destroyer of worlds"
I doesn't work will all special ammo types, it works with High velocity, I forgot which one I doesn't work with. Instead it only gave me 90rounds of the Special ammo
I like the chatter box talent better than bullet hell. It gives you wild rate of fire and dps, and also refills half your mag every kill so you get a bullet king like effect
My best tip: All Reds ahead. Someome in a discord I'm in is against skill builds in this mode because of how small rooms and are easily getting surrounded. I dont agree. But having red cores up until nemesis do help. The best skills in this mode are probablt Turret & Decoy primarilt because theh serve the same purpose which is keeping enemies off you. Blue cores feel useless. The M1A, Super 90, M870 & 357 are extremely powerful here due to enemies lower health pools. Hard rooms give you more time to get your build togerher before nemesis however after nemesis its not worth it. The difficulty ramps up high and fast. You'll eventually get enough credits to buy all the run upgrades and shop purchases are cheap. Explosive rounds are pretry strong after the Ammo nerf. Shops uses to always have all ammo and they all gave 120 rounds. Now you get 2 random types of Ammo. Hallow point rounds are exacrlt why they sound like from ongoing directive but you only get 60. Explosive rounds dont give extra damage but you get bleed + 100 Rounds. I also put Fire or Shock rounds on my side arm in later runs. Hallow point on heavy hitting slow firing weapons explosive on other weapons.
I am going to love descent as a "separate" game from the normal game play of division 2. I am only struggling on Nemesis. But I will keep on trying. 2 points should be taken additionally. 1 point was missing as you have the chance to add weapon damage, amor or skill after some rooms. And the 2nd point is maybe a thing to consider. In a 4 people group the adjustment of NPCs are to heavy in my experience. But your 5 points are very good for new or struggling agents. Thanks mate
Buy shock ammo for one of your weapons, shot the Nemesis once, switch weapons, shoot him again when the effect passes, rinse and repeat. Shock ammo is the ultimate cheese strategy
I got wrecked first 2 floors, ammo is hard to keep unless you are using pistol to offset and picking perks wasn't hard, but I didn't know I could skip them or reroll. this should help me out a lot on my next run. plus, just because you normally play on hardcore mode doesn't mean you should pick every hard door that comes up.
I've tried Descent twice so far, both times with a match-made team. The first time we made it about halfway to the Nemesis. The second time we made it about 3/4 of the way to the Nemesis. Both times we just got in bad spots and wiped. Based on the two tries, I like the mode. It's actually a lot of fun, and I have to say, the Bullet Hell talent with a shotgun is FUN! The only downside is that the mode takes a while, so it's a more significant investment of time than something like Countdown.
Oh man then i have bad news for you as when you finally reach nemesis get ready to be spammed with drones, shock traps, flame turrets and seeker mines that will wipe all of you in seconds
@@michaels1719 After several more attempts I still haven't made it to the Nemesis. The mode feels a bit overturned to me. For the first few rounds it's easy, but then you hit a kind of difficulty spike that has wiped us every time.
I'm just getting to know Descent. But I definitely like it, I almost forgot that I should take cover from time to time, save ammo, and things like that..... ;)
Don't forget that later on rogue agents spawn in. We were 2 man and had 3 rogues come at loop 19. We didn't know this was possible and caught us completely off guard and we wiped.
The thing I like about talent selection is being able to stack talents and get crazy bonuses. I do think they should remove or fix the Blind Justice exotic talent, old Liberty talent for those that don't know, because it's technically not in the game anymore and even when I proc the talent it almost never works
Try and use your pistol as much as possible. Hard i know, even for me, but since ammo drops are disabled and you have to conserve ammo, which can be hard since npcs can be unpredictable and shots rain out trying to get any hits on them, ammo conservation is important, ive had a lot of moments where I simply ran out with my main ammo reserves and had to resort to grenades, skills and pistol. But for stuff like a grenadier throwing a nade, an npc standing next to a propane tank, or your last few targets, thsts a great opportunity for your pistol to shine. Also something to consider, the larger your area and if no snipers are around or dead, the better you can engage with your pistol. Pistols are meant as a last resort defense to their core, and have trouble engaging crowds. Use it in situations where you know your target is isolated from their group. Also, regardless whether you're stocked on ammo, grenades, and armor, open the boxes anyway. I figured out earlier, I think ill come back and take this out if im wrong, that if you buy a slot/capacity, you can reopen the boxes and become full again
I find the ammo economy enforced in the early loops to be kinda stupid, and only to justify things like wasting your credits on buying to max/increasing cap/mag. It's like they wanted to justify bullet hail as a talent. everyone I talk to thinks running out of bullets is kinda lame. particularly when you get random weapons, and relative differences in the weapon are exacerbated with restricted ammo. I get it's like a 'survival' experience, but you can't pick up rounds from what you kill either, so I don't think it's a good justification and it doesn't resonate with me. just IMO. eventually it ends up totally irrelevant with the right builds, so to me that just seems more like an engineered annoyance to work around rather than a compelling choice for the mode. and even more so as you progress outside the mode and blunt the impact of the early game PITA. Just seems like a pointless addition to me that is fundamentally unfun.
@GrumpyOldMan I find it fun actually. It's meant as a training sim to help teach you what to do in combat, or how to work with limited resources. I find hardcore very hard, and have been through 10 agents at least never going over lvl 15. And if decsent is what I need to help me hone my skills as a player, then so be it. And people say "you get nothing from this but caches" samething with survival, maybe an xp reward at the end of your game, but it's gonna be nothing compared to how much xp is needed to level up. I know I get nothing, but the entire point like I said is to train you and give a mode with infinite variables that change with each run, exactly what survival was.
Its another option for how you spend your game time, which is good, and it's free, also good. Does it have long term re-playability once the novelty factor wears off ?. I'm not sure it does. I will play this mode occasionally but for me the focus will still be the main game.
The math I ran on the weapons pointed to a few stand outs. ran the math on all grey starting weapons so it won’t take into account DMG to Armor/HP/TooC etc. MP7, M60, P416 & SASG-12 have crazy stats when looking @ total DMG per mag & burst The MP7 has been balanced around not having a mag upgrade in open world & I &) the SMGs & the MP7 has the second highest burst under the V 9mm SBR and the second highest sustain/DMG per mag under the PP-19 M60 has a ridiculous ammount of sustain & decent burst, while MP7 has the inverse. Using the talents Allegro (Max +70% RPM), Extra & Lucky Shot (+100% Mag size, +100% Mag size) not only improves the efficacy of already strong base stats but also improves how much ammo you can take into each loop. Will update soon with more but tired now. Long ass runs.
For me, descent's Core is conditional probability. Your objective is to build to kill the nemesis. Everything else is chaff. That means you have to start from the endpoint and decide what you need and how many loops to ensure success. 5? 6? 7? Odds are you won't be able to do more than 7. To do 7 you must complete 6 loops before reaching 99%. That is doable if the first loop is done all on HARD. Here is the problem: the extra weapon choice costs 2000, and the extra skill choice is 1500. If you choose to not purchase these, you will face 6*3 = 18 weapon choices, and 6*3 = 18 skill choices. More choices is more valuable for weapons at higher loops. So, when I start I avoid a weapon and choose a skill IF it is one I want for the nemesis encounter. Damage skills will need to replaced 1 loop before the encounter. You are guaranteed 1 exotic talent. Once I have that, I can then decide whether to buy the extra weapon choice, or the extra skill choice - or to cancel game and restart. The changes in October dilute the pool of choices, making a desirable build even less probable. This also makes my method more desirable and the idea of cancelling and restarting more probable. Frankly, I cannot believe cancelling was what developers intended, because if you have to restart say 10 times in a row, why would you want to persist since odds are then 1 in 70 that you succeed.
tried yesterday for the first time, quite enjoyed it. and yes am going to try and use weapons and skills i never really used in the normal division play style.
Tip 1: Max out the "armor on kill" or "health on kill" when your finished with your decent run. Use the NSA credits after each decent run to get it. It will greatly help you in the early game. Tip 2: Striker drone and assualt turrets are a lifesaver. If your playing on a hard difficult level, obvisouly you will be bombared easily. If you happen to be lucky enough getting the striker drone can be a free bait so you can run up on enemies and kill them easily since the enemies will target the striker drone or assault turret.
It’s really hard and unfair. They should at least let you start from where you died. After 1:30hr have to start from the beginning again and again sucks and make it annoying because we sometimes play with random people
Mode drags on so long... Checkpoints would be great. Each loop completion should be a cp... Also wish the project was clearing loops not defeating nemesis.
Thank you Thank you. I've been waiting for someone to do a tips & tricks video on this. Its fun with the crazy builds you can make but the mode takes way too long. They need to find a way to shorten it
Launched the game for the first time since it came out to play this, we played it for a solid six hours, feel like we experienced most if not all of it and got bored. I was pretty excited for this mode because I'm a huge fan of rogue-like/lite stuff but this game mode is pretty shallow in content and I really wish it had more to offer.
Well this update was a big disaster/disappointment, and the mode is fun for about 3 runs , the rewards are horrific, time invested is a joke and until there is some loot only obtainable in this mode i wont play it , no reason to cause its not fun, and love how you can load right into another game when you die
a lot of people are also missing the fact that you can choose between weapon or skill after you complete a floor, you dont always have to just choose a weapon
Having useful skills is a big help, like a Demo Firely, Jammer Pulse, etc. Having good damage talent built up to beam the dogs w/ an LMG or other gun was my main strategy.
I actually quite enjoy this game mode. Made it to loop 15 before I had to go to work. I see a lot complaining about it though. I think peeps are too catered to their shd levels and maxed out gear carrying them. Being brought back to the basics shows who the real players are :)
I'm sure I'm bad but ALSO it's hard to be completely in the zone for an hour plus straight. I'll often be breezing through it and then I make a mistake or I get put in the wrong side of cover or something else and then it's all over...
@@RogueGoldThanks for answering. Restarted Soo many times :) - But it turned out I had to donate some parts to a project that had no marker and to get it started. Pure luck I found that out .
Yes good tip the rifle really knocked em back with special ammo but still the ads hit hard and everything's so random. It's fun but a very dif experience very different
Thanks for the video and info RG much appreciated been at a load of concerts lately hopefully catch up with you soon on stream have a good one 💙🏴
Unfortunately, I will not be playing it until they get it fixed. Mallory and I were in a three man group for 2 and a half hours and it bugged out at the nemesis and we lost our opportunity to complete it.
When we reached the room and hit the button to enter, I got the cutscene of the room assembling and everything. Then it was just myself and Sgt in the room, but Mallory couldn't enter. We waited for a while to see if it was just lag, but she never got the cutscene. Mallory left group and got the cutscene, but then couldn't rejoin us, leaving us all stuck in the room with a "waiting for other players" prompt up top. There was nothing happening and nothing to interact with, so after about 10 mins, we all just quit out.
@@EnragedPostman In the PTS version /invite username and /join username worked ..haven't tried that in this version yet. So just to update this. Encountered this glitch, those commands still work but player was sent to main lobby as a fresh character and didn't get in to room to advance game. Had to quit but didn't lose NSA tech.
I want to enjoy this mode because it looks unique compared to Underground or Summit, which is what I thought it was going to be. I only tried it once and died on room 4, one of these days I'll give it another whirl.
Thanks for the advice it help a lot specially for the new descent players or noobs like my self , I have a question after you kill the nemesis or before if for any reason you don’t wana continue playing and go back to dc when you try to go back into the desert again you start we’re you left of or from the beginning like when you die thx , after like 20 try and some clan friends finally I make to the nemesis for first time .
I'm so glad the videos have helped! If you leave Descent at any point, or wipe during a run, you will begin back at the start when you re-enter. There are no checkpoints. As for after the Nemesis, defeating the Nemesis grants you the biggest trove of loot, and while continuing beyond does net you additional rewards, some are satisfied with that more contained experience, and choose to back out after that.
Idk if others had slipped ther mind but I didn't know at first you could stack talents wasn't paying close attention. Alot of people just aren't playing this mode .
Think the only thing was to match the talents so all the bonuses stack without doing much. Choose complementary exotic talents to the talents your using instead of just picking one because it's supper OP and it negates all your talent bonuses to proc.
Killing the Nemesis has been the biggest issue. They are just scaled way too high with a full group. We blew through all the ammo just finishing 2. The last two pretty much just walked up and slapped us down.
@@herrvorragend3542 That was the best run out of getting to Nemesis about 10 times. Every other group that has managed to even reach them crumples instantly.
Best advice I can give is to buy all 10 ammo capacity upgrades prior to the Nemesis encounter, purchase explosive rounds before the fight, and try to have 1-2 damaging skills on the team to use a bit less ammo
Can you explain more about the nemesis are clones? I've only run it once, with 1 buddy in a 2 man run. We took 6 loops to max gauge. The Nemesis were NOT clones. They had double the armor, if not more, then we did. They used skills neither of us had. And 1 of them was using a weapon that was basically 1 shotting us. (something like 95%+ total armor /health). Granted this was a first run, but the rng seemed OK as far as final build, and we stood zero chance of beating the nemesis... Not sure if bugged or what, but we were not fighting "clones".
Their damage/armor is always going to be higher, that's just how NPC scaling works in the game. The Devs pitched the Nemesis as "having the same weapons, talents, and skills" as you do when you enter in there. If that's not the case in-game, then I don't know what's up with that.
That's what I said when they announced them , and people got all mad , and. I said this update is really bad as well , it's a complete waste of time . Only thing good was the mp5 and shock ar . Even the man hunt not man hunt is horrible
@Imon Yourside no it's not , it's for times you have nothing better to do , like if your not grinding lvls , or gear , or season lvls , then it's fine just for messing around .
Rogue gold thank u I could not even get off zone 1 on lvl 40 xbox keeped crashing changed to lvl 30 got to zone 2 and it was full of invisible ads. Heads up guys
Agreed, what’s even crazier with the difficulty is that level 30 players who aren’t even anywhere through the end game and don’t know all mechanics can jump onto this since we all start at the same place
Biggest tips I can give is have a mic. You need to communicate. Plus if you are running with a group each person needs a roll. You need a healer to get to the higher levels.
Shotguns are your friend. Don’t take talents that require Crit for the first few runs until you can buy some Crit. Bonus armor is your friend. Skill haste and reload speed are your friend.
My problems are skill choice and having to settle a lot of the time for a bad pick. I tend to try and prioritize healing a lot, both in the regular game and survival/descent, and surprisingly I I've been gravitating to repair trap. And once I got both skills when but neither were healing, and I of course wanted to change them. I went straight a buy station and bought the extra skill thing, but when I didn't have the option to choose another skill I got confused. Is buying the extra skill worth it and it gives you the chance to change or what? Also talent wise, is steady handed still as useless as ever?
You have access to 3 new skill options every time you complete a loop, you just need to tab over to that category when you're at the selection panel. After your initial pick, you only get to choose one new weapon OR skill, not both. Buying the extra skill options means it rolls 4 new random picks instead of just 3. And for gun/damage setups, Steady Handed is a top pick for me in Descent
It rewards you with any blueprints you might be missing from past Seasons, as those were previously unobtainable if you missed them during the Season itself. If you have all of those blueprints, then it effectively acts as a Field Proficiency Cache
It's an alright mode, something else to do like countdown and summit. However, as a solo player, I've had some really unlucky runs. There are two small room designs that seem to be made for 4 man groups as they funnel you into the center. The enemy NPCs just come out and zerg you. Everytime I've hit one of those rooms, I wipe im about 2 seconds. Feel like that needs to be looked at. Also, it would be nice if we could upgrade the kind of weapons we start with at the NSA table. Right now, by loop 6, I feel like you just are so weak that the encounters feel very tedious. Reminds me of fighting enemies too high for my level and gear when I was doing the campaign.
If there's a shield available...get it. Shotguns and Rifles are super effective. The Vector is garbage in this mode. The best exotic talents I've used so far are easy breathing (brass knuckles) and Plague of the Outcast, dont foget to stack you talent tiers. They are sizable jumps. Surprisingly, the decoys are also really effective, the enemy runs to them, great for grenades. At NSA vendor, I stacked armor on kill first, then skill haste, helped out ALOT in the early loops
Ngl I've been struggling to get past 6 loops due to playing in groups. You'd think players with higher watch lvl would have a IQ north of 0 but you'd be suprised. Plus the re rolling talents I honestly didn't know
Question! I have played and beat the Nemesis a couple of times now, but I haven't seen the caches they talked about from which you get named items blueprints. How do I get those?
@@RogueGold I have been getting simulation caches and I don't think they are those. This is how they phrased it in patch notes and livestream. "Added Named Item blueprints from Seasons 1, 2, 3 and 4 to the Reconstructed caches."
my only complaint so far is how they make you have to kill the nemesis to complete the weekly project. my problem with that is that if you crash you gotta redo, and this mode can take a while, it-s so annoying. they should change so you gotta kill a certain number of bosses or complete x number of loops.
yes, at least with the summit 30 level challenge, it adds up even if you don't knock it out in 1 sitting. they should just make it a loops count or make it shorter to get to the nemesis/ add a checkpoint system for completed loops so you can walk away if you need to and restart where you left off.
When you pick your weapon, you can click and change your skill but I think you can change only the weapon but not the skill or skill and not the weapon.
Make sure you pick the best choices for Nemesis above all, and once you have something solid, go for him. Entrench and composure for example are two talents that will have a very high uptime and can be used in both scenarios.
Quite enjoy this mode but when you die why the hell do i have to travel back to washington to then travel back to descent to have another go its just pointless
I feel like they missed a huge oppurtunity for a psuedo Div 1 survival revive. Descent is similar enough already, something as simple as making the nemesis system somehow a pvp thing could've been perfect, especially with the 'extraction' shooter hype that still hasnt died down.
I don't see this game mode lasting long. I think people will lose interest fairly quickly. After you make it far a couple times, why play this game mode. Not a viable XP farm, loot per hour is way worse than countdown, I don't understand why they made this mode, and didn't just give us a few new actual story missions, and new locations.
The XP is actually pretty solid, I got 22 levels for a 2 hour run. The mode has a weekly project where new comms will drop, and there are tiered leaderboard rewards that grant exclusive cosmetics.
Idk why people complaining people ask for more PVE content and bam now the community complaining bc it’s not what the wanted. I have yet to play mode properly will play after I’m done with everything but there is no exp transfer to main character so it’s pointless to play.
I don't think it's because it's not what people wanted. Here are my personal theories/reasons as to why I think people hate/don't like Descent. 1. Very boring because the layouts are always the same like summit. 2. The difficulty to them is a bit extreme. I can see why a lot of people don't want to spend their time feeling like their upgrades don't mean anything when even in solo the difficulty is BS levels of challenging. 3. It's suffering from balancing issues with guns and talents, most of the items aren't worth using just like the main game depsite trying to be worthwhile. So it didn't fix any meta issues. 4. Finally I think that the reason a lot of players are pissed is because there is a lot of potential here for something great, but the execution to them from what I've seen, and myself have somewhat experienced is very lacking. If some scaling is changed and more variety is used in the mode. It can become something great, but for now. It's a disappointment to a lot of people. TL:DR: people don't like/hate Descent because it's a great concept with a lackluster execution.
How are y'all feeling about Descent so far?
I’m loving having some fun
I really like it. So far I reached loop 6 as solo. Abd honestly it better to play solo. Cause it will be up to you which room you choose. In co-op everyone decides, which im not a fan of
Solo is way easier for the nemesis than in coop, we are regularly doing raid/legendary content, countdown heroic etc, and oh by the nemesis are way too powerful in group of 3-4 it instantly kill
Solo is okay
Got to the arena twice with no ammo. The second time it did not give me any thing good so I only had a pistol.
Most of my clan did not play the PTS, so I showed them around yesterday. We seldom played beyond loop 4 before most of them wanted to leave.
Ive played it for about 6 hours so far and my advice is to hit the nsa table to the right of the entrance and put all your points in to armor on kill. Next is to hope you get a rifle or m60 in your weapon choices. No surprise that m1a is king here. Things like booster hive and demolisher are great. I got really lucky at one point got an attack drone but the firefly is just as good. My number one suggestion though is, do not sleep on sandman. It was by far the most helpful exotic talent. Take your time to look around too , sometimes the game doesn't always make it obvious when theres a kit box or buy table available. Its not like the main campaign. Think outside the box. Talents that usually get skipped are really good here. Think trauma and entrenched. Personally i wouldn't worry about crit chance, but most importantly, be happy if you get the emp sticky or jammer pulse. They might not matter at first but once the black tusk arrive you'll be glad you picked them. Dont waste credits on extra skill or weapon choices as they don't allow you to swap on the fly but rather just give you an additional option at the buy station between loops after you beat a hvt, you still only get to carry 2 weapons and 2 skills. Stack armor and armor on kill as med kits are too precious. The aim assist is turned off in descent so weapon handling has a much greater impact, especially on pistols which are what you should rely on until the 4th loop. Lastly, dont pick rooms based on difficulty. Go by what cores they offer as reward. If you need more utility, go by whichever room offers yellow cores same for whatever else. (Also , talents that you might not usually consider to be in a certain category will actually show up there, meaning sandman and braced are yellow takents because they are seen as utility by the game but firerate is red. It's a little bit of an adjustment at first to predict what will have a chance of being an option for reward but its easy to pick up). Dont worry if you die, just learn from it and keep pushing. Gg
Thank you 🙏 it's players like you that keep me going with this game 😊
the M870 Express is not bad in the first 5 Loops at 3.8k damage white , 4.3k damage green , 4.8k damage blue per shot
The problem is unless you can 100 percent kill the nemesis every time it’s pointless to play descent. But the nemesis kills you in four bullets, while you can run out of ammo without missing and dude still has half his armor
I'm get wrecked on the nemesis level 20 sec tops
Literally
you also get named crates.
@TECHNO-GAMER-Kun uh... you can play countdown, gets tons of dropped items, can buy whatever crate you want, get multiple named items dropped at your feet... all in 15 minutes.
This is hours of work... for nothing dropped. A couple crates.
@@DefenestrateLogic I have yet to play countdown so I wouldn’t know.
I would recommend to EVERYONE to get the "Easy Breathing" Brass Knuckle exotic talent from Lady Death if you see it. I probably used the wrong name, but the sheer scaling of damage that you get from that is amazing. You can literally cover to cover run or just walk around a bit and boom, 75% damage bonus for your next magazine (much MUCH more buffs for single fire weapons like Shotguns and Marksman rifles). It's hands down the best talent in there and pairs with any build idea I've thought of so far.
Also forgot to mention that since you're always running to the next room, you always start a battle with a full damage boost already charged up 👌🏾👌🏾
Another one is preservation. It'll give almost 50% armor regen at level 6
Yep, that's been my go-to, it's very fun!
@@herrvorragend3542 entrench?
I had chameleon and lady death at one point , it's nuts
@@PourriGamer I want to try this combo, sounds thrilling 😂
Agree on using weapons / skills that suit this mode
I finished it for first time and one skill that helped me a lot (a lot !) Was the shrapnel trap. Throw it in front of the door they spawn and you can just focus on another door .
I do hate that you cant save your progress after loops. It's too long. Not everyone has 2-3 hour sit downs. I finished it after 7th loop and couldn't continue playing as I didn't have time. Sucks to lose that progress
Traps are absolutely busted in room clearing in this mode. Biggest challenge is covering your back and the traps will absolutely lock down 1 (or even 2) doors.
I just jumped back into Div 2 and this mode is my new favorite! What an addictive game play loop. I'm definitely going to play this till my permanents are maxed! : ) awesome video man! I'm late but I'm here now lol
🙏 Thank you so much! And welcome back! Descent absolutely offers a very unique experience compared to the rest of the game- glad you're enjoying it!
I took the Armor on Kill first in the permanent bonuses. Definitely helped me out.
As a new player I am really enjoying this mode but I can understand how veterans could be disappointed by it. As a new player it’s great because you get to encounter a lot of mechanics that you wouldn’t see early on in the Story.
Glad you're liking it!
thats because you're meant to play this after the story ..
The NSA upgrades also applies to your other characters. Handy if you want to complete your projects on another character
That's good to know cus I had no idea
Oh nice! Had no idea
Been loving descent and that’s the best advice I been choosing only hard rooms to be better prepared for nemesis and definitely use my sidearm often to save on ammo
Conserve ammo early loops with alot of pistols (and trauma) to spend more credits at later loop. Only bring out primaries if you need burst damage or close quarter combat.
A few tips;
- Avoid the sticky bomb, at least for now. It seems to be bugger and nearly got me killed several times. What can happen is you go to fire it and the it will not actually let you detonate it or take cover. Swapping weapons will alleviate this but you still can't trigger the bomb. It's not 100% but why take the risk.
2 - Save up for the 4th talent unlock first, trust me this absolutely should be the first priority because I have run into cases where after 3 talent rerolls I got nothing helpful
3 - Speaking of which, never do more than 2 rerolls. Each successive reroll costs more, in fact I would suggest just using the skip option if nothing goog comes up after a single reroll those credits are valuable.
4 - The Bullet King Exotic talent is by far the best. It's ludicrously broken especially on shotguns. Also Sandman is largely junk, but it will actually one-shot enemies with shields if you melee their shield (very helpful when being rushed)
5 - Last one is again about shotguns - they are the best thing to buy special ammo for especially Hollow Point Bullets. I bought some for my 870 on one run and the game have like 120 rounds - which is just crazy on a shotgun.
Wait so bullet king Exotic perk ‘buffs’ the special ammo’s you buy becaus presumably, ALL of your ammo is in the mag?
If so that’s nutty…
@@hamishblair7504 Oh I hadn't even considered that, maybe that's why I had so many HP Rounds. I just remember seeing 120+ with the 870 and thinking "I am become Death, destroyer of worlds"
I doesn't work will all special ammo types, it works with High velocity, I forgot which one I doesn't work with. Instead it only gave me 90rounds of the Special ammo
Bro sandman was the best talent going in there. I loved it. Saved ammo and just smacked npc's every ten seconds.
I like the chatter box talent better than bullet hell. It gives you wild rate of fire and dps, and also refills half your mag every kill so you get a bullet king like effect
What usually kills me is that darn bomb drone that the cleaners have. Not the rogue one 😂
My best tip: All Reds ahead.
Someome in a discord I'm in is against skill builds in this mode because of how small rooms and are easily getting surrounded. I dont agree. But having red cores up until nemesis do help.
The best skills in this mode are probablt Turret & Decoy primarilt because theh serve the same purpose which is keeping enemies off you.
Blue cores feel useless.
The M1A, Super 90, M870 & 357 are extremely powerful here due to enemies lower health pools.
Hard rooms give you more time to get your build togerher before nemesis however after nemesis its not worth it. The difficulty ramps up high and fast. You'll eventually get enough credits to buy all the run upgrades and shop purchases are cheap.
Explosive rounds are pretry strong after the Ammo nerf. Shops uses to always have all ammo and they all gave 120 rounds.
Now you get 2 random types of Ammo. Hallow point rounds are exacrlt why they sound like from ongoing directive but you only get 60. Explosive rounds dont give extra damage but you get bleed + 100 Rounds.
I also put Fire or Shock rounds on my side arm in later runs. Hallow point on heavy hitting slow firing weapons explosive on other weapons.
Does incessant chatter refill your mag with special ammo?
This is the Survival we needed! I like it a lot
what?
I am going to love descent as a "separate" game from the normal game play of division 2. I am only struggling on Nemesis. But I will keep on trying. 2 points should be taken additionally. 1 point was missing as you have the chance to add weapon damage, amor or skill after some rooms. And the 2nd point is maybe a thing to consider. In a 4 people group the adjustment of NPCs are to heavy in my experience. But your 5 points are very good for new or struggling agents.
Thanks mate
Buy shock ammo for one of your weapons, shot the Nemesis once, switch weapons, shoot him again when the effect passes, rinse and repeat. Shock ammo is the ultimate cheese strategy
@@TheRama2299 isn't the nemesis immune to shock?
I got wrecked first 2 floors, ammo is hard to keep unless you are using pistol to offset and picking perks wasn't hard, but I didn't know I could skip them or reroll. this should help me out a lot on my next run. plus, just because you normally play on hardcore mode doesn't mean you should pick every hard door that comes up.
I've tried Descent twice so far, both times with a match-made team. The first time we made it about halfway to the Nemesis. The second time we made it about 3/4 of the way to the Nemesis. Both times we just got in bad spots and wiped.
Based on the two tries, I like the mode. It's actually a lot of fun, and I have to say, the Bullet Hell talent with a shotgun is FUN! The only downside is that the mode takes a while, so it's a more significant investment of time than something like Countdown.
Oh man then i have bad news for you as when you finally reach nemesis get ready to be spammed with drones, shock traps, flame turrets and seeker mines that will wipe all of you in seconds
@@michaels1719 After several more attempts I still haven't made it to the Nemesis. The mode feels a bit overturned to me. For the first few rounds it's easy, but then you hit a kind of difficulty spike that has wiped us every time.
I'm just getting to know Descent. But I definitely like it, I almost forgot that I should take cover from time to time, save ammo, and things like that..... ;)
Glad you're liking it!
I played 8 rooms before I died. Loop 2. I enjoyed it so I will continue playing it Thanks!!!
Don't forget that later on rogue agents spawn in. We were 2 man and had 3 rogues come at loop 19. We didn't know this was possible and caught us completely off guard and we wiped.
The thing I like about talent selection is being able to stack talents and get crazy bonuses. I do think they should remove or fix the Blind Justice exotic talent, old Liberty talent for those that don't know, because it's technically not in the game anymore and even when I proc the talent it almost never works
Try and use your pistol as much as possible. Hard i know, even for me, but since ammo drops are disabled and you have to conserve ammo, which can be hard since npcs can be unpredictable and shots rain out trying to get any hits on them, ammo conservation is important, ive had a lot of moments where I simply ran out with my main ammo reserves and had to resort to grenades, skills and pistol. But for stuff like a grenadier throwing a nade, an npc standing next to a propane tank, or your last few targets, thsts a great opportunity for your pistol to shine. Also something to consider, the larger your area and if no snipers are around or dead, the better you can engage with your pistol. Pistols are meant as a last resort defense to their core, and have trouble engaging crowds. Use it in situations where you know your target is isolated from their group.
Also, regardless whether you're stocked on ammo, grenades, and armor, open the boxes anyway. I figured out earlier, I think ill come back and take this out if im wrong, that if you buy a slot/capacity, you can reopen the boxes and become full again
I find the ammo economy enforced in the early loops to be kinda stupid, and only to justify things like wasting your credits on buying to max/increasing cap/mag.
It's like they wanted to justify bullet hail as a talent.
everyone I talk to thinks running out of bullets is kinda lame.
particularly when you get random weapons, and relative differences in the weapon are exacerbated with restricted ammo.
I get it's like a 'survival' experience, but you can't pick up rounds from what you kill either, so I don't think it's a good justification and it doesn't resonate with me. just IMO.
eventually it ends up totally irrelevant with the right builds, so to me that just seems more like an engineered annoyance to work around rather than a compelling choice for the mode.
and even more so as you progress outside the mode and blunt the impact of the early game PITA. Just seems like a pointless addition to me that is fundamentally unfun.
@GrumpyOldMan I find it fun actually. It's meant as a training sim to help teach you what to do in combat, or how to work with limited resources. I find hardcore very hard, and have been through 10 agents at least never going over lvl 15. And if decsent is what I need to help me hone my skills as a player, then so be it. And people say "you get nothing from this but caches" samething with survival, maybe an xp reward at the end of your game, but it's gonna be nothing compared to how much xp is needed to level up. I know I get nothing, but the entire point like I said is to train you and give a mode with infinite variables that change with each run, exactly what survival was.
Its another option for how you spend your game time, which is good, and it's free, also good. Does it have long term re-playability once the novelty factor wears off ?. I'm not sure it does. I will play this mode occasionally but for me the focus will still be the main game.
The math I ran on the weapons pointed to a few stand outs.
ran the math on all grey starting weapons so it won’t take into account DMG to Armor/HP/TooC etc.
MP7, M60, P416 & SASG-12 have crazy stats when looking @ total DMG per mag & burst
The MP7 has been balanced around not having a mag upgrade in open world & I &) the SMGs & the MP7 has the second highest burst under the V 9mm SBR and the second highest sustain/DMG per mag under the PP-19
M60 has a ridiculous ammount of sustain & decent burst, while MP7 has the inverse.
Using the talents Allegro (Max +70% RPM), Extra & Lucky Shot (+100% Mag size, +100% Mag size) not only improves the efficacy of already strong base stats but also improves how much ammo you can take into each loop.
Will update soon with more but tired now. Long ass runs.
PP19 has a huuuuge mag size and relatively high bullet damage (ammo conservation) so it is crazy good on earlier floors.
For me, descent's Core is conditional probability. Your objective is to build to kill the nemesis. Everything else is chaff. That means you have to start from the endpoint and decide what you need and how many loops to ensure success. 5? 6? 7? Odds are you won't be able to do more than 7. To do 7 you must complete 6 loops before reaching 99%. That is doable if the first loop is done all on HARD. Here is the problem: the extra weapon choice costs 2000, and the extra skill choice is 1500. If you choose to not purchase these, you will face 6*3 = 18 weapon choices, and 6*3 = 18 skill choices. More choices is more valuable for weapons at higher loops. So, when I start I avoid a weapon and choose a skill IF it is one I want for the nemesis encounter. Damage skills will need to replaced 1 loop before the encounter. You are guaranteed 1 exotic talent. Once I have that, I can then decide whether to buy the extra weapon choice, or the extra skill choice - or to cancel game and restart.
The changes in October dilute the pool of choices, making a desirable build even less probable. This also makes my method more desirable and the idea of cancelling and restarting more probable. Frankly, I cannot believe cancelling was what developers intended, because if you have to restart say 10 times in a row, why would you want to persist since odds are then 1 in 70 that you succeed.
tried yesterday for the first time, quite enjoyed it. and yes am going to try and use weapons and skills i never really used in the normal division play style.
Glad you're enjoying!
How do you get the reconstructed caches. They’re supposedly the ones with the named blueprints and haven’t seen a single one
I believe they just renamed it to the Simulation Cache
@@RogueGold weird, cuz in the article they made about descent loot it’s two separate caches. Have you gotten any named blueprints yet?
Oh shit! I just saw the nsa stat upgrades. This changes everything.
Tip 1: Max out the "armor on kill" or "health on kill" when your finished with your decent run. Use the NSA credits after each decent run to get it. It will greatly help you in the early game.
Tip 2: Striker drone and assualt turrets are a lifesaver. If your playing on a hard difficult level, obvisouly you will be bombared easily. If you happen to be lucky enough getting the striker drone can be a free bait so you can run up on enemies and kill them easily since the enemies will target the striker drone or assault turret.
It’s really hard and unfair. They should at least let you start from where you died. After 1:30hr have to start from the beginning again and again sucks and make it annoying because we sometimes play with random people
That's the point it's a roguelite
Mode drags on so long... Checkpoints would be great. Each loop completion should be a cp... Also wish the project was clearing loops not defeating nemesis.
Thank you Thank you. I've been waiting for someone to do a tips & tricks video on this. Its fun with the crazy builds you can make but the mode takes way too long. They need to find a way to shorten it
@herrvorragend3542 Yeah obviously. But how many people are going to keep playing a mode that takes about 2 hours to get through
I didn't know that I could use my skills. thank you this video is very helpful!. I'll try to do a solo run.
If only I could save the progress and hop back on later😢 I don’t have few hours to play games
Launched the game for the first time since it came out to play this, we played it for a solid six hours, feel like we experienced most if not all of it and got bored. I was pretty excited for this mode because I'm a huge fan of rogue-like/lite stuff but this game mode is pretty shallow in content and I really wish it had more to offer.
Well this update was a big disaster/disappointment, and the mode is fun for about 3 runs , the rewards are horrific, time invested is a joke and until there is some loot only obtainable in this mode i wont play it , no reason to cause its not fun, and love how you can load right into another game when you die
@herrvorragend3542 your the one getting mad over someone opinion ! Need I say more !! I will take sad enjoy being pathetic
a lot of people are also missing the fact that you can choose between weapon or skill after you complete a floor, you dont always have to just choose a weapon
I would love to know what are other players doing when getting a multi wave room with black tusk and there are two or three dogs?
4 dogs, 2 tanks, drones. 2 waves of enemies. great (no)
Having useful skills is a big help, like a Demo Firely, Jammer Pulse, etc. Having good damage talent built up to beam the dogs w/ an LMG or other gun was my main strategy.
Wow I'm so used to extended ammo clip on all my guns, thats probably the biggest adjustment for me.
You get used to it after a bit, but it's definitely a switch!
I think this mode is a test I believe this is how Division Heartland Mechanics work
@RogueGold Any tips for the Nemsis fight going in with a four man team keep getting destroyed. Heard there might be a balancing issue
I've only done it on solo so far. Stock up on the Special Ammo from the vendor right before, focus fire one of them at a time.
I actually quite enjoy this game mode. Made it to loop 15 before I had to go to work. I see a lot complaining about it though. I think peeps are too catered to their shd levels and maxed out gear carrying them. Being brought back to the basics shows who the real players are :)
I'm sure I'm bad but ALSO it's hard to be completely in the zone for an hour plus straight. I'll often be breezing through it and then I make a mistake or I get put in the wrong side of cover or something else and then it's all over...
Thank you sir!
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Very use full tips. Thank you. For me the NSA Stations are not available for some reason. If anyone know how to solve this please advice. Thanks
I'm not sure. Try restarting your game?
@@RogueGoldThanks for answering. Restarted Soo many times :) - But it turned out I had to donate some parts to a project that had no marker and to get it started. Pure luck I found that out .
Interesting that they made new stuff, I’m curious about it
Yes good tip the rifle really knocked em back with special ammo but still the ads hit hard and everything's so random. It's fun but a very dif experience very different
Thanks for the video and info RG much appreciated been at a load of concerts lately hopefully catch up with you soon on stream have a good one 💙🏴
Appreciate you Michael!
Sticky bomb is great for spawn trapping doors
Unfortunately, I will not be playing it until they get it fixed. Mallory and I were in a three man group for 2 and a half hours and it bugged out at the nemesis and we lost our opportunity to complete it.
That's a shame, what happened exactly?
When we reached the room and hit the button to enter, I got the cutscene of the room assembling and everything. Then it was just myself and Sgt in the room, but Mallory couldn't enter. We waited for a while to see if it was just lag, but she never got the cutscene. Mallory left group and got the cutscene, but then couldn't rejoin us, leaving us all stuck in the room with a "waiting for other players" prompt up top. There was nothing happening and nothing to interact with, so after about 10 mins, we all just quit out.
@@EnragedPostman Happened to me several times on the test server, reported it and still in the game.
@@EnragedPostman In the PTS version /invite username and /join username worked ..haven't tried that in this version yet.
So just to update this. Encountered this glitch, those commands still work but player was sent to main lobby as a fresh character and didn't get in to room to advance game. Had to quit but didn't lose NSA tech.
Can you please make a video on Descent Reconstructed caches? I haven't seen a single one so far. Thanks
Loop 3 so far I quit. But I'm gonna get back on it thanks for the tips anyway
I want to enjoy this mode because it looks unique compared to Underground or Summit, which is what I thought it was going to be. I only tried it once and died on room 4, one of these days I'll give it another whirl.
Thanks for the advice it help a lot specially for the new descent players or noobs like my self , I have a question after you kill the nemesis or before if for any reason you don’t wana continue playing and go back to dc when you try to go back into the desert again you start we’re you left of or from the beginning like when you die thx , after like 20 try and some clan friends finally I make to the nemesis for first time .
I'm so glad the videos have helped! If you leave Descent at any point, or wipe during a run, you will begin back at the start when you re-enter. There are no checkpoints. As for after the Nemesis, defeating the Nemesis grants you the biggest trove of loot, and while continuing beyond does net you additional rewards, some are satisfied with that more contained experience, and choose to back out after that.
Idk if others had slipped ther mind but I didn't know at first you could stack talents wasn't paying close attention. Alot of people just aren't playing this mode .
Think the only thing was to match the talents so all the bonuses stack without doing much. Choose complementary exotic talents to the talents your using instead of just picking one because it's supper OP and it negates all your talent bonuses to proc.
Wery helpful upload
Happy to hear it!
Need me that guaranteed exotic cache !
Killing the Nemesis has been the biggest issue. They are just scaled way too high with a full group. We blew through all the ammo just finishing 2. The last two pretty much just walked up and slapped us down.
@@herrvorragend3542 That was the best run out of getting to Nemesis about 10 times. Every other group that has managed to even reach them crumples instantly.
Best advice I can give is to buy all 10 ammo capacity upgrades prior to the Nemesis encounter, purchase explosive rounds before the fight, and try to have 1-2 damaging skills on the team to use a bit less ammo
Can you explain more about the nemesis are clones?
I've only run it once, with 1 buddy in a 2 man run. We took 6 loops to max gauge.
The Nemesis were NOT clones. They had double the armor, if not more, then we did. They used skills neither of us had. And 1 of them was using a weapon that was basically 1 shotting us. (something like 95%+ total armor /health).
Granted this was a first run, but the rng seemed OK as far as final build, and we stood zero chance of beating the nemesis...
Not sure if bugged or what, but we were not fighting "clones".
Their damage/armor is always going to be higher, that's just how NPC scaling works in the game. The Devs pitched the Nemesis as "having the same weapons, talents, and skills" as you do when you enter in there. If that's not the case in-game, then I don't know what's up with that.
Rewards are not worth the time invested, not even close.
Better off in CD
It's fun to play though.
That's what I said when they announced them , and people got all mad , and. I said this update is really bad as well , it's a complete waste of time . Only thing good was the mp5 and shock ar . Even the man hunt not man hunt is horrible
@@reapersasmr5483 I mean I love the mode but was hoping to level my season up. It's clearly not worth the time invested to do that.
@Imon Yourside no it's not , it's for times you have nothing better to do , like if your not grinding lvls , or gear , or season lvls , then it's fine just for messing around .
Rogue gold thank u I could not even get off zone 1 on lvl 40 xbox keeped crashing changed to lvl 30 got to zone 2 and it was full of invisible ads. Heads up guys
Too difficult for the little rewards you get from it tbh, it isn’t worth it right now at least for me.
Agreed, what’s even crazier with the difficulty is that level 30 players who aren’t even anywhere through the end game and don’t know all mechanics can jump onto this since we all start at the same place
No one likes this game mode cs you actually have to b GOOD and can’t rely on your shd levels 😂😂😂
Bullet hell on a shotgun is amazeballs due to no reload
same for LD exotic talent.
100%!
The starting weapons and skills need a lot more variety…it’s challenging and fun in co-op.
Biggest tips I can give is have a mic. You need to communicate. Plus if you are running with a group each person needs a roll. You need a healer to get to the higher levels.
nah you don't you just need to know the rooms we did nemisis and didn't have a healer
You don't need mics at all...don't even need roles, read the room, adapt as needed and everyone will be fine.
Shotguns are your friend. Don’t take talents that require Crit for the first few runs until you can buy some Crit. Bonus armor is your friend. Skill haste and reload speed are your friend.
My problems are skill choice and having to settle a lot of the time for a bad pick. I tend to try and prioritize healing a lot, both in the regular game and survival/descent, and surprisingly I I've been gravitating to repair trap. And once I got both skills when but neither were healing, and I of course wanted to change them. I went straight a buy station and bought the extra skill thing, but when I didn't have the option to choose another skill I got confused. Is buying the extra skill worth it and it gives you the chance to change or what? Also talent wise, is steady handed still as useless as ever?
You have access to 3 new skill options every time you complete a loop, you just need to tab over to that category when you're at the selection panel. After your initial pick, you only get to choose one new weapon OR skill, not both. Buying the extra skill options means it rolls 4 new random picks instead of just 3. And for gun/damage setups, Steady Handed is a top pick for me in Descent
Hey thanks for this vid. I have been lost trying to figure this out. I’m curious tho. What exactly is the simulation gear cache?
It rewards you with any blueprints you might be missing from past Seasons, as those were previously unobtainable if you missed them during the Season itself. If you have all of those blueprints, then it effectively acts as a Field Proficiency Cache
It's an alright mode, something else to do like countdown and summit.
However, as a solo player, I've had some really unlucky runs. There are two small room designs that seem to be made for 4 man groups as they funnel you into the center. The enemy NPCs just come out and zerg you. Everytime I've hit one of those rooms, I wipe im about 2 seconds. Feel like that needs to be looked at.
Also, it would be nice if we could upgrade the kind of weapons we start with at the NSA table. Right now, by loop 6, I feel like you just are so weak that the encounters feel very tedious. Reminds me of fighting enemies too high for my level and gear when I was doing the campaign.
@@herrvorragend3542 as I said, I had some unlucky runs.
If there's a shield available...get it. Shotguns and Rifles are super effective. The Vector is garbage in this mode. The best exotic talents I've used so far are easy breathing (brass knuckles) and Plague of the Outcast, dont foget to stack you talent tiers. They are sizable jumps. Surprisingly, the decoys are also really effective, the enemy runs to them, great for grenades.
At NSA vendor, I stacked armor on kill first, then skill haste, helped out ALOT in the early loops
Off topic but the new assault rifle is a caddillac if you use the scope omg
Toss your grenades at the door after it hits 1 and blow up the ads as they come out.
Yea I am also enjoying the game mode. It’s a really good challenge in our group of 4. Something I will do with mates once a week at least !!
The co-op experience is definitely a lot of fun 🙌
Ngl I've been struggling to get past 6 loops due to playing in groups. You'd think players with higher watch lvl would have a IQ north of 0 but you'd be suprised. Plus the re rolling talents I honestly didn't know
The more I play this mode,I kept getting loot non stop
How do you equipped items you buy.
Like armour on kill etc
Once you purchase those upgrades they automatically apply to your Descent runs, you don't need to do anything else 👍
I truly enjoy your videos. How do I find the first person to save?
You have to do the objectives including some specific bounties.
Thank you! The game will guide you to each activity you need to do. Check the Manhunt tab on your map to see what's next
Nemesis is your mirror... so, it doesn't matter how prepared you are :)
They'll always have more armor/damage, so building up more armor/damage yourself is better preparation!
I somehow knew nothing about the NSA currency lol.
Iv become a huge fan of mad bomber in the mode!
Mad bomber is a sleeper pick for sure, basically a free sticky bomb that makes rooms go 10x faster.
Question! I have played and beat the Nemesis a couple of times now, but I haven't seen the caches they talked about from which you get named items blueprints. How do I get those?
They're the "simulation caches," to my knowledge. If you have all of the old Seasonal blueprints I'm not sure if they'll drop any new ones
@@RogueGold I have been getting simulation caches and I don't think they are those. This is how they phrased it in patch notes and livestream. "Added Named Item blueprints from Seasons 1, 2, 3 and 4 to the Reconstructed caches."
I opened a simulation cache and got system corruption gloves, please can someone check if this was not a bug??
Morten teased that they could contain DZ items
Cool vid, descent is different not everyone could adapt, no contractors no fox’s 😂 nothing to lean on just pure thought provoking skill.
Sniper turret + skill levels is so good in descent.
Nice, I've been meaning to try a skill run!
i want to see this, not been my experience in post-nemmy loops that skill builds are worth a piss vs just shooting things.
It's op for sure
my only complaint so far is how they make you have to kill the nemesis to complete the weekly project. my problem with that is that if you crash you gotta redo, and this mode can take a while, it-s so annoying. they should change so you gotta kill a certain number of bosses or complete x number of loops.
yes, at least with the summit 30 level challenge, it adds up even if you don't knock it out in 1 sitting.
they should just make it a loops count or make it shorter to get to the nemesis/ add a checkpoint system for completed loops so you can walk away if you need to and restart where you left off.
@@herrvorragend3542 its not a problem killing him, i find him quite easy solo, the problem is hoping you dont crash before you kill him
@@herrvorragend3542 not sure 'git gud' is a good counter to the - this takes too long and mostly is not successful complaint.
@@herrvorragend3542 sounds a lot like 'git gud' to me, but OK. it's easy if it's easy (because you are gud)!
@@herrvorragend3542 my complaint has zero to do with the reward. I give zero craps about the exotic cache.
When you pick your weapon, you can click and change your skill but I think you can change only the weapon but not the skill or skill and not the weapon.
I'm curious how you balance offensive and defensive choices to get started and yes, I ran out of ammo and med kits at 89% heat 😂
I typically build damage first, as the NPC's will continue to deal high damage even when you build more survivability
Make sure you pick the best choices for Nemesis above all, and once you have something solid, go for him. Entrench and composure for example are two talents that will have a very high uptime and can be used in both scenarios.
Quite enjoy this mode but when you die why the hell do i have to travel back to washington to then travel back to descent to have another go its just pointless
I feel like they missed a huge oppurtunity for a psuedo Div 1 survival revive. Descent is similar enough already, something as simple as making the nemesis system somehow a pvp thing could've been perfect, especially with the 'extraction' shooter hype that still hasnt died down.
Hi mate still getting this bug problem any suggestions on what to do thanks in advance
Hi! Which bug are you referring to?
After a loop there is an option to exit to DC. Is your progress saved?
No, every run is a one-time deal. There are no checkpoints
Do the NSA stations also contain bonuses for the open-world? Or does the vendor only sell Descent-specific buffs?
Nsa stuff is for descent only
@@eatyourcereal4747 Shame
All the NSA stuff is Descent-specific
I don't see this game mode lasting long. I think people will lose interest fairly quickly. After you make it far a couple times, why play this game mode. Not a viable XP farm, loot per hour is way worse than countdown, I don't understand why they made this mode, and didn't just give us a few new actual story missions, and new locations.
The XP is actually pretty solid, I got 22 levels for a 2 hour run. The mode has a weekly project where new comms will drop, and there are tiered leaderboard rewards that grant exclusive cosmetics.
My favorite run so far was level 3 unhinged level 5 lucky shot with bullet hell on a police M4 and level 2 preservation and I hate fire
you get quite a decent amount of xp tbh, but i've recently returned so im not sure what is the standard
You do, it's honestly one of the better sources right now with the open world XP changes they made this update
Idk why people complaining people ask for more PVE content and bam now the community complaining bc it’s not what the wanted. I have yet to play mode properly will play after I’m done with everything but there is no exp transfer to main character so it’s pointless to play.
I don't think it's because it's not what people wanted. Here are my personal theories/reasons as to why I think people hate/don't like Descent.
1. Very boring because the layouts are always the same like summit.
2. The difficulty to them is a bit extreme. I can see why a lot of people don't want to spend their time feeling like their upgrades don't mean anything when even in solo the difficulty is BS levels of challenging.
3. It's suffering from balancing issues with guns and talents, most of the items aren't worth using just like the main game depsite trying to be worthwhile. So it didn't fix any meta issues.
4. Finally I think that the reason a lot of players are pissed is because there is a lot of potential here for something great, but the execution to them from what I've seen, and myself have somewhat experienced is very lacking. If some scaling is changed and more variety is used in the mode. It can become something great, but for now. It's a disappointment to a lot of people.
TL:DR: people don't like/hate Descent because it's a great concept with a lackluster execution.
@@DeathsEmployer2004 TBH idk how devs sat there and think to themselves yea this will win over the people it’s like the are not tru gamers at heart
You do earn XP and loot for your main character. I got 22 SHD levels and multiple caches off of a 2 hour run
@@RogueGold 🤔👍🏽
What rewards do you get?
XP, and various caches including an Exotic cache if you pass the Nemesis
Bullet Hell, puts all your ammo in one mag or clip. No reload but it will run out.
I thought we were getting currency to spend on cashes like Countdown? Do we have to win to earn the caches it sais we can get?
The only thing you can spend currency on outside of the mode is the bonuses at the NSA Vendor