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  • Опубліковано 31 тра 2015
  • View full lesson: ed.ted.com/lessons/the-battle-...
    The world of modern theater owes its roots to the tragedians of Ancient Greece. As far back as the 5th Century BCE, actors and playwrights were entertaining the masses with intriguing stories. Melanie Sirof unveils the ancient theatrical innovations that made the way for Broadway.
    Lesson by Melanie Sirof, animation by Andrew Foerster.

КОМЕНТАРІ • 237

  • @georgiion1684
    @georgiion1684 7 років тому +823

    ”kills his father, and marries his mother. that sounds pretty tragic to me”
    *i'm dying*

    • @Kunabee
      @Kunabee 7 років тому +29

      Hopefully not by your son.

    • @jargonr3d32
      @jargonr3d32 6 років тому +3

      we all are, pretty tragic, right?

    • @WateverWatever04
      @WateverWatever04 6 років тому +4

      Georgi Ion And then the way the Seacrestopolis says "It is most tragic!" so excitedly 😅

    • @basilofgoodwishes4138
      @basilofgoodwishes4138 6 років тому +3

      Georgi Ion That is pathetic, not tragic.

  • @LordOmnissiah
    @LordOmnissiah 4 роки тому +135

    What’s really tragic is not only did Oedipus Rex come in second at the contest but we also don’t even have copies of Philocles tragedies to compare it to in order to determine if it was a fair loss. In fact we don’t even know the name of the play Oedipus lost too, the passage of the sands of time has robbed us of even that.

  • @scasino9358
    @scasino9358 9 років тому +187

    "peace, love and catharsis" makes for an awesome catchphrase.

  • @user-cs8uz5lo5z
    @user-cs8uz5lo5z 9 років тому +297

    the ryan seacrest and mario lopez reference, i see you TED-Ed, i see you.

  • @andy4226uk
    @andy4226uk 9 років тому +255

    I have no idea why this is so confusing to people, I found this easy to follow and it just explains how different early Greek writers went about constructing their plays.

    • @ralphsgirl06
      @ralphsgirl06 7 років тому +32

      It required basic knowledge of Greek Theatre to understand the references.

  • @kekorules3241
    @kekorules3241 4 роки тому +54

    "Kills his father, and married his mother"
    Sweet Alabama sounds...

    • @Valanci555
      @Valanci555 2 роки тому

      He betrayed his family for family.
      I am confused with my feelings.

  • @ms9592
    @ms9592 6 років тому +104

    This is a really clever way of presenting information, I love it

  • @Tyronejizz
    @Tyronejizz 9 років тому +462

    altough a fun variant on the original style of TED-ED. I prefer the normal narrator with cold hard facts over this story telling type of education. Still a great video

    • @robertthomson1587
      @robertthomson1587 3 роки тому +3

      Absolutely. The 'TV hosts' premise wears very thin by the end.

  • @rubengivoni6823
    @rubengivoni6823 4 роки тому +75

    This video was an absolute masterpiece. The combination of the eccentric narrative style of this video, it's great insights for the viewer who pays close attention to detail, as well as its top-notch humour, make this a truly remarkable video. As a person not too acquainted with the greatest playwrights, let alone the greatest Greek tragedians of classical Greece, this really made me feek a combination of hopeless ignorance and unquenchable curiosity that I cannot properly describe. Kudos.

  • @driskilla
    @driskilla 9 років тому +20

    I appreciate TED-Ed's attention to the classics and the ancient world. Keep it up!

  • @misseli1
    @misseli1 7 років тому +26

    I liked this format. It was funny and entertaining, and I don't think it was as hard to follow as other people made it out to be

  • @MegaKoutsou
    @MegaKoutsou 8 років тому +84

    Some of the Greek words heard in this video in Greek:
    Aeschylus: Αισχύλος
    Sophocles: Σοφοκλής
    Oedipus: Οιδίπους
    Jocasta: Ιοκάστη
    Thespis: Θέσπις
    chorus: χορός
    parodos: πάροδος

    • @whatchachattin
      @whatchachattin 8 років тому

      +gijijijijijijijijijijji this is why it annoys me when they pronounce aeschylus and oedipus

    • @MegaKoutsou
      @MegaKoutsou 8 років тому +2

      whatchachattin What do you mean? What is the thing that annoys you?

    • @whatchachattin
      @whatchachattin 8 років тому +2

      they dont pronounce the dipthong (the two vowels next to each other) instead only pronouncing 'e', the greek itself has 'ai' and 'oi' for the initial syllables respectively but they say 'e' and 'e'

    • @MegaKoutsou
      @MegaKoutsou 8 років тому +1

      whatchachattin Thank you! But may I ask you something? How come you know how to properly pronounce the diphthongs? Have you studied Greek? I'm asking out of pure interest because I am Greek myself

    • @whatchachattin
      @whatchachattin 8 років тому +2

      I study Latin and Ancient Greek at University

  • @Arte.mi.
    @Arte.mi. 2 роки тому +3

    This is amazing! For someone who has read some ancient plays and has just a little bit (but enough) of knowledge about ancient drama plays, this is a masterpiece!

  • @georgiion1684
    @georgiion1684 7 років тому +28

    "peace, love and catharsis."
    WHAT

  • @imjustczarina
    @imjustczarina 7 років тому +2

    This is totally our lesson! Thanks for making it more entertaining.

  • @sWifteruniTe
    @sWifteruniTe 9 років тому +137

    no idea what just happened ?? anyone can tell me what happened ?

    • @Hiphopopotamus123
      @Hiphopopotamus123 9 років тому +11

      Did you watch the video?

    • @Renigade16
      @Renigade16 9 років тому +42

      Hiphopopotamus I'm sure he/she did, it was still hard to follow especially if you don't know anything about theater history.

    • @darkking289
      @darkking289 9 років тому +58

      The beginning of theatre as we know it today. In the time of the ancient Greeks, plays would be performed by a chorus of 50 men all singing in unison. Then one man steps out to become an individual, and is known as an actor. This happens until there are 3 actors on stage.

    • @Arikiatrukido
      @Arikiatrukido 9 років тому

      sWifteruniTe nop man. i am without works. this sux more then mosquitoes.

    • @nocomment09
      @nocomment09 9 років тому +1

      luis hernandez
      *12-15. not 50. There wouldn´t even been enough space for 50 men.

  • @thediamondkid4320
    @thediamondkid4320 7 років тому +5

    I love how I know some of this. The Dionysus thing was cool. And the Greeks did *invent* tragedy. They knew the greatest heroes didn't get happy endings. Pretty sad, but what can you do? Greek tradegies and myths are awesome and twisted in a really odd way.

  • @rinsletdreamwalker2832
    @rinsletdreamwalker2832 6 років тому +4

    It definitely requires some background to understand what's going on, but come on, guys, this is great! Really, you have done amazing work. It's very entertaining and helps to renew the knowledge you had of ancient greek theatre. Even if you don't know a thing about it, the video is a super fun point to start introducing with it. Thank you so much!

  • @paulanicole4786
    @paulanicole4786 7 років тому +4

    this was so great haha studying for my theater arts class and this was so helpful!

  • @bbpoltergeist
    @bbpoltergeist 9 років тому +2

    This was absolutely amazing.

  • @ThyLoverly
    @ThyLoverly 9 років тому +2

    Awesome! Would love to see more theatre-related videos, not just math and science.

  • @sofiapetridou4662
    @sofiapetridou4662 5 років тому +3

    "Peace , love and catharsis " Lol I'm dying 😂😂😂

  • @cara4454
    @cara4454 9 років тому +26

    What a coincidence! Iwas just analysing Antigone by Thucydidis for my exam tomorrow...

    • @driskilla
      @driskilla 9 років тому +5

      Ioanna Karaiosifidou Thucydides didn't write Antigone.

    • @GooffyxXxGRxXx
      @GooffyxXxGRxXx 9 років тому +8

      driskilla i think she is well prepared xaxaxaxaxa

    • @cara4454
      @cara4454 9 років тому +4

      I sure am cant u see? and yes i know it! Am Greek ! it was my way of saying that i will totally fail

    • @GilgameshApproves
      @GilgameshApproves 9 років тому +5

      Ioanna Karaiosifidou sofocles actually wrote it, and btw ill also have a exam lol

    • @adityakhanna113
      @adityakhanna113 9 років тому +1

      ***** Either way, those are some nightmare spawners!

  • @Nadiivlogs
    @Nadiivlogs 3 роки тому +3

    i got assigned from my teacher to watch this.. i like it! :D

  • @KarishmaChanglani
    @KarishmaChanglani 6 років тому +2

    This was absolutely genius. I was laughing throughout.

  • @cynayu
    @cynayu Рік тому

    I am in LOVE with the animation and presentation lmaooo

  • @dharmeshsingh9050
    @dharmeshsingh9050 6 років тому

    Well enacted. TED ED is now a studio!

  • @froberso
    @froberso 7 років тому

    Great resource!

  • @janikaloisbrul9870
    @janikaloisbrul9870 7 років тому

    im so happy that all of this is related to my english literature subject 💕

  • @JohanStarDragon
    @JohanStarDragon 5 років тому +3

    “A nice fellow who kills his father and marries his mother.”
    And thus lay the seeds for an entire profession. Sometimes charging 200 dollars an hour....and a fifty minute hour at that.
    (1000 points to anyone who gets this reference.)

    • @auxmobile
      @auxmobile 11 місяців тому

      What would we become without a bit of... psychoanalysis (ψυχανάλυση)...

  • @greenergrass4060
    @greenergrass4060 7 років тому

    its amazing how we went from this , to Musicals like Wicked,Cats or Les miserables!!

  • @eudelannec.pascual7735
    @eudelannec.pascual7735 8 років тому +3

    I actually enjoyed this

  • @jepong1768
    @jepong1768 2 роки тому

    such a informative and masterpiece scene... 10/10

  • @highbrowraiseofficial
    @highbrowraiseofficial 4 роки тому

    Incredible TedEd💫

  • @sathishchandra8914
    @sathishchandra8914 7 років тому

    awesome presentation

  • @leonardsap13
    @leonardsap13 9 років тому +21

    this one needed more work guys, this episode was just all over the place.

  • @stephaniev.928
    @stephaniev.928 2 роки тому

    I need a worksheet on this video! Perfect

  • @marcuscheng2507
    @marcuscheng2507 3 роки тому

    Great video!

  • @dicruzz1103
    @dicruzz1103 2 роки тому

    Beautiful!!!!!!

  • @bjgoodrich5864
    @bjgoodrich5864 4 роки тому

    Great job 👏

  • @ronaldodouglas4911
    @ronaldodouglas4911 3 роки тому

    Great act🙌🙏🙌🙏🙌🙏

  • @jmanrocks152
    @jmanrocks152 7 років тому

    I absolutely love the bgm
    Wish I could have it

  • @jvsper_
    @jvsper_ 9 років тому

    This is amazing :)

  • @joshuanickles6385
    @joshuanickles6385 9 років тому

    These are way better!!! I wish they would do more like this and caesar and Lenin and ones like that:)

  • @juanestebanacostagutierrez8950
    @juanestebanacostagutierrez8950 6 років тому

    I loved it so much

  • @elizabethingram6375
    @elizabethingram6375 4 роки тому +1

    What about Euripides? It seems wrong to leave out one tragic ancient Greek playwright when there were only 3 with plays that still exist today.

  • @shanelp7489
    @shanelp7489 5 років тому +3

    Shout out to everyone who’s studying theatre arts!

  • @antoinekubler7472
    @antoinekubler7472 2 роки тому

    Brilliant stuff

  • @luisafernanda9453
    @luisafernanda9453 6 років тому

    I liked it though. Good job. You never disappoint me

  • @romanbruni
    @romanbruni 9 років тому +3

    brilliant brilliant brillaint

  • @annabananna789
    @annabananna789 6 років тому +1

    Seacrestopolis and Mario Lopedokia must’ve been huge hunks in Ancient Greece.

  • @sooooooooDark
    @sooooooooDark 9 років тому +7

    i dont get it

  • @mymostbeloved
    @mymostbeloved 9 років тому

    I'd like to see a video about Aztec Gods or Aztec history in general.

  • @spiros1994
    @spiros1994 9 років тому +3

    Just send me a message or give me a call to make the Greek voice and I'll add subs too. I cant hear that english narration

  • @clarkepercivaljaeblood4886
    @clarkepercivaljaeblood4886 5 років тому

    I keep imagining the con-attorney in the History vs. series whenever Seacrestopolis speaks.

  • @mykulpierce
    @mykulpierce 9 років тому +7

    So strange that the historical points discussed are lost in the slap stick.

  • @MG-fb4yj
    @MG-fb4yj 7 років тому +1

    I thought that the greek tragic by excellence was Antigone, the daughter of Oedipus and Jocasta

  • @Jjrmtv
    @Jjrmtv 8 років тому

    that was cool!

  • @neiturelover
    @neiturelover 3 роки тому

    I am not a literature student. Could you please tell me what does catharsis mean?

  • @gavinruiz4622
    @gavinruiz4622 5 років тому

    I love it soooooooo much

  • @xoddran42069
    @xoddran42069 6 років тому

    The last one most tragic
    That's it I need to make a movie about that

  • @2b-coeur
    @2b-coeur 8 років тому

    4:35 ...no, it makes me feel sad.

  • @masodemic4509
    @masodemic4509 4 роки тому

    "Peace, love and catharsis" needs to be a thing

  • @soklatkasang4655
    @soklatkasang4655 4 роки тому

    i came after watching the story reviewed by the ML studios crew (Malaysia)

  • @Julian0505z
    @Julian0505z 7 років тому

    Best vid ever

  • @ElvenAngel
    @ElvenAngel 8 років тому +2

    Not a single mention of Euripides' contributions? O_o

    • @marlonmoncrieffe0728
      @marlonmoncrieffe0728 7 років тому

      ElvenAngel
      Probably because Euripides was a terrible playwright that didn't contribute much.

    • @confusedpenguins6887
      @confusedpenguins6887 7 років тому

      Marlon Moncrieffe how dare you lol. Never heard of Medea? Let alone other great tragedies by Euripides

  • @rihardskaneps8502
    @rihardskaneps8502 8 років тому

    briliant ! here only perspective , from where u are mater

  • @ericastevens614
    @ericastevens614 7 років тому +1

    Theapus? Is that where the term thespian came from?

  • @Vexsus22
    @Vexsus22 7 років тому

    the box office lady was not waving; she was saying "STOP! GIVE ME YOUR TICKETS OR PAY !!!"

  • @jmemes6305
    @jmemes6305 3 роки тому +1

    good

  • @Naheed_
    @Naheed_ 3 роки тому

    Nice

  •  9 років тому

    This was a lesson worth -sharing- explaining... :|

  • @safasaleh3010
    @safasaleh3010 8 років тому +1

    the best ever video i have seen in my whole life

  • @clarkepercivaljaeblood4886
    @clarkepercivaljaeblood4886 4 роки тому

    Hold up, I'm trying to know which of them was Addison Anderson and George Zaidan, but I'm really confused HAHAHAHAHAHA

  • @naturallydivine2010
    @naturallydivine2010 9 років тому

    ...Mario Lopedochea....Interesting character TED.

  • @bibekgautam512
    @bibekgautam512 9 років тому +22

    I prefer one man narrative...

  • @sreejanighosh3399
    @sreejanighosh3399 2 роки тому

    Secretosples and Mario Lopadocia sound like cool Greek guys. 🤣

  • @KiriRose
    @KiriRose 9 років тому

    the greek name's in english sound very od to me and im greek ,o,
    oh here's a new topic on TED-Ed
    why wen ever you hear a name you know in a difrent language sound od? to us
    its an idea :P

  • @katie-px5to
    @katie-px5to 7 років тому

    i actually liked this kind of video hahaha

  • @justanotherbohemian3827
    @justanotherbohemian3827 5 років тому +1

    What? No Euripides?

  • @Niki_0001
    @Niki_0001 9 років тому +3

    I'm not sure I follow what's happening. Is this video heavily dramatized or is this (somewhat accurately) how modern theatre begun..?

    • @dave5194
      @dave5194 9 років тому +7

      It's about the transition of a large chorus telling a story in theater to having characters acting out narratives. And how the innovations lead more and more towards the modern theater that we know, with actors, speeches, and such.

    • @haeilsey
      @haeilsey 6 років тому

      It didn't happen all at once this took centuries but it happened in this way.

  • @paulinaradomska7945
    @paulinaradomska7945 7 років тому

    Peace, love and katharsis

  • @marcinwojak8563
    @marcinwojak8563 3 роки тому

    ,,U can't blame the guy, can you?"

  • @marcomechelli8800
    @marcomechelli8800 8 років тому +1

    where is euripides?

  • @lorelln
    @lorelln 3 роки тому

    Para sa modules woh!

  • @inkedhigh
    @inkedhigh 6 років тому

    school is missing out on showing us this. I love this (:

  • @Kumquat9701
    @Kumquat9701 Рік тому

    Goat song!

  • @emamekkartny
    @emamekkartny 5 років тому

    peace, love and catharsis

  • @faifto6626
    @faifto6626 6 років тому

    i feel like im watching the hunger games😂
    if you take a closer look the narrators even look like the ones from the hunger games🙈😬

  • @KimmyQueen
    @KimmyQueen 6 років тому +1

    You assume people know the basis of theater origin ... difficult to follow

  • @microwave9679
    @microwave9679 7 років тому

    the last story is obviously Othello

    • @111asel
      @111asel 7 років тому +3

      No, it's Oedipus.

    • @microwave9679
      @microwave9679 7 років тому

      Or is it?

    • @111asel
      @111asel 7 років тому

      Spongiforma squarepantii
      Yes it is.

    • @microwave9679
      @microwave9679 7 років тому

      Or is it an Adam Sandler movie? Those are tragedies right?

    • @JonatasAdoM
      @JonatasAdoM 7 років тому +1

      +Spongiforma squarepantii A tragedy to watch

  • @QUARTERMASTEREMI6
    @QUARTERMASTEREMI6 8 років тому

    The messenger's explanation of the demise of Oedipus is not even in the slightest bit correct... Did they even read the ending of Oedipus?

    • @medicalstudent4333
      @medicalstudent4333 8 років тому +3

      What are you talking about? That is how it ended. After Oedipus realized that the prophecy was fulfilled, that he killed his father and bedded his mother, he gouged out his own eye with Jocasta's pins and self exiled himself, with Creon taking over the throne.

  • @sendmentalhelptt2261
    @sendmentalhelptt2261 Рік тому

    hi neutron

  • @kuromi_484
    @kuromi_484 9 років тому

    who the guy with orange and black hair.

  • @galaxygoats2277
    @galaxygoats2277 7 років тому

    hi

  • @gatopardoantico5657
    @gatopardoantico5657 10 місяців тому

    Mario Lopidochea does not sound particularly [ancient] Greek . Neither Christopoulos if this is the actual name.

  • @jp4431
    @jp4431 3 роки тому

    Adds one actor
    INNOVATION
    That just sounds like iPhone

  • @RubberToaster
    @RubberToaster 7 років тому

    um

  • @thenewsimme10
    @thenewsimme10 9 років тому

    Wow

  • @benquinney2
    @benquinney2 7 років тому

    That's the problem with cougaring