The FBI Ran a "CP" Website...
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- Опубліковано 31 сер 2023
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Hello guys and gals, it's me Mutahar again! This time we take a look at the time the FBI operated a website that distributed content that would have you sent to prison for a couple decades, while they stopped a lot of bad people the violations they committed we're definitely teetering on the edge of legality. Thanks for watching!
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NOOOO!!!
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Hi daddy
You think you’re the king? I’m the king
Ok I'll take it!
never thought the FBI would be the ones to revive Club Penguin
Not all heros wear capes...
Glad to hear the FBI are taking civil protection seriously
The pool is still closed.
@@coolorphans someone typed this 2 hours ago 💀
Glad they finally started up a cyber protection service.@@deletethis5699
imagine being a victimized child and having your own sexual abuse being spread and kept in circulation by your own government
Yep but at least they got the pedos in prison
@@guccivalues5692 honestly i dont even know how much of a bonus it is. guaranteed the pedos who saved it likely shared it to someone else before getting caught. like, they kept it in circulation, n espec if it was easier to access the site it made it more likely for csa material to spread. like, yeah you caught some bad guys but at the cost of the exact terrible material to be spread again to people who arent caught
@@guccivalues5692 They had thousands of other ways to catch them
@@Lemy3005 ture Which is messed up they did that
@@Lemy3005they don't care about the emotions of the victims, they want to capture as many as possible
The FBI always has and will always be, morally questionable.
You should say "morally abhorrent, and unconstitutional" but I'm no American lmao
The government is always right, duh
Cia is worse
@@comradeurod9805 Then you deserve no opinion on an agency that literally doesn't fking affect you, lmao.
"questionable"? lol
Great they were caught, but absolutely disgusting they would use CSAM of real children to achieve this. They do not have the right to continue the abuse of these children like this.
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And if they hadn't arrested the owners it would still be up today with more predators remaining free. There's no perfect answer but this is certainly a better route to go than leave it running.
@@snowmantuna these are definitely some morally gray grounds. no matter what way you twist it it still seems messed up and yet not at the same time. confusing
@montgomery_gator_enthusiast Nope it's just bad. The reason CP is illegal is because it abuses the children depicted + continues to abuse them by having their traumatic experience viewable. The FBI is committing a crime by doing this and it's not justifiable.
If the police shut down a meth operation but then proceeded to start it back up under their control + still sold product and only arrested people after they ingested the meth, then they're really not much better than the original criminals.
Whenever law enforcement's excuse is "think of the children" or "the terrorists will win" that's a huge red flag. Nothing good can come of it.
CIA and FBI are the terrorists.
Obviously they’ll shoot your kids and they keep people from doing things with the threat of violence or locking you in a cage where you have no rights that’s terrorism governance through violence is terrorism
"Think of the children, Agent!"
"Oh believe me, I am."
"You're masturbating in public!"
Whenever I see MSM use the “think of the children” line I laugh, they’re just using an emotional appeal
Frankly whenever anything outside of childcare services saying that is a kingdoms worth of red flags
This reminds me of the easter egg in GTA IV where if Nico were to go on one of "those" websites, you would automatically get four stars and the police would go to your location.
yeah it was like little lady surprise something, 5 stars if you unlocked algoquin
It was basically an easy way to rampage and practice evasion, imo
W game bro. The dlcs were amazing too
“Units please respond, we have a sexual deviant attempting to access explicit images.”
Little lacy surprise pageant. There were ads in VCS of little lacy underwear.
The FBI agents that helped the site run should be thrown in jail for the crimes they committed. it doesnt matter if you commit a crime to try to catch someone else committing a crime, you still committed a crime and need to be charged. they willingly committed a crime that they knew was a crime
It's absolutely wild. Pedos catching other pedos is crazy
It's absolutely wild. Pedos catching other pedos is crazy
It's absolutely wild. Pedos catching other pedos is crazy
It's absolutely wild. Pedos catching other pedos is crazy
It's absolutely wild. Pedos catching other pedos is crazy
Surrendering freedom while simultaneously giving up your moral compass in exchange for safety is incredibly dangerous
how are we giving away our feedom LMAO. we're lucky we didnt end up like these poors kid. and this was the best hope they had to being free, its worth it
@@serahmus9178 using the exact tools that are illegal to yourself in the pursuit of an end result is horrible. It would be like r*ping a population in an attempt to make it so bad that nobody wants to do it anymore. The FBI wasn't using bait or fake minors. It was distributing actual CP
@@serahmus9178I'm trying to parse this visual stroke of a sentence. From what I can tell, you don't understand the concept that having your rights and freedoms taken away in exchange for increasingly illusory safety is a thing that's happening at all? Well, it is.
@@notsae66what a long way of saying "Nuh uh!". Try this again but this time explain how your freedom is taken away.
@@serahmus9178 So you’re ok with further traumatizing the children victims in that content, by allowing our nations highest domestic law enforcement agency to redistribute said content? Because of the potential “honeypot” effect alone? That’s quite telling if so; needless to say those poor children weren’t kin to you? I’d venture a guess that they’re just names/faces in a bigger story about catching CP-obsessed scumbags? Me personally I care about every individual child and no content involving them should be anywhere online or anywhere else; Regardless who posted it.
For the record, do we get to review every single FBI employee who set up or accessed the content as part of their “job”? How do we know they’re not all pervs who lucked in to their literal ideal form of employment, getting to “patrol” CP forums for “catching criminals” when in reality they’re doing what MANY FBI agents over the years have been caught doing, engaging in disgusting criminal activity under the color of the law?
When does it stop? If it’s YOUR child are you ok with the government using graphic sexual content to catch other pervs?
What you may not realize is that the 4th amendment is part of the US's highest law: The Constitution defines what the government is and isn't allowed to do and what laws are allowed to exist. In violating the 4th amendment protection, the FBI made it possible *FOR THESE CRIMINALS TO GET OFF SCOT FREE ON A TECHNICALITY.* They can get their arrest vacated, sentences overturned, and their record cleared because the FBI *ABDICATED ITS RESPONSIBILITY.*
also so many maxims of law that can thwart the prosecutors case now because of this
Yeah they try to use their illegal methods to do something okay for once and just end up giving the pedos a free win in court. About typical if you ask me. Im surprised they even did this at all considering certain facts about that subset of criminals and their alleged potential relationships to the bureau and other agencies. Lol.
Thank god for the 4th amendment
@@TywinLannister0 If only the FBI respected it.
Get them off like Cosby.
Glad to hear the FBI are taking civil protection seriously
Cod points
Not the cp they make money on sadly
The Communist Party is no joke
HL2 citizen be like "CPs!"
Citizen notice: Failure to cooperate will result in permanent off-world relocation.
Imagine being the parent of one of these victimized children, and finding out that explicit media of your kid was sent to predators by your own government. You'd have to live the rest of your life knowing that they went behind your back, and that likely multiple terrible creeps live to hold the memory of that media in their heads. "We did it to catch them" probably wouldn't be much of a consolation.
Mutahar, I've been to prison for bail jumping and let me tell ya, I did paralegal assistance in the law library for people with ALL KINDS of cases.
When going over the case file with an inmate who had "one of those" cases...I found that my state's Department of Justice actually keeps it's own library of cheese pizza. Basicly, when they catch somebody, they make COPIES of this stuff, and than they honey pot it across the internet on torrents/file sharing - THAN using a program called "UIS" on ps2 networks, they ghost-download the file they shared with you and van your house! shit you not I read this in somebody's case file!
Not defending the guy but holy fuck that got me thinking about our government differently.
This is baby stuff, Vault 7 leaks basically confirm that literally any piece of hardware produced in the US has built in backdoors for the feds. I doubt they are the only ones doing it, but they are certainly the most prolific government to do so.
It’s true! Imagine saying something on social media that they don’t like or not blindly agreeing with whatever narrative they are pushing. then your house is raided and suddenly you find yourself getting framed with CP on your computer. Then you go to jail in addition to being put on a public list to be shamed and having the rest of your life completely destroyed. The unfortunate despair of many innocent Americans, sadly. 😢
@@rayasunshine4393 that's what they did, albeit much more egregiously, to the brother of the guy they set up for the LV shooting (that the feds did).
Are you saying there's a chance that this evidence was planted? Sounds like an easy case for dismissal.
I refuse to believe some of those agents weren't really into this operation for personal reasons
They enjoy it
They enjoy it
No kidding. There's the agent who was caught sniffing a young girl's used underwear thanks to a nanny cam in the room.
They enjoy it
They enjoy it
The CIA also ran the biggest drug website on the blackmarket at one point and probably still does
In the 80s the CIA shipped cocaine over the border to target specific communities in the USA and to help fund their terrorism in Latin America
"Ran" is a bit of a stretch. They allowed the servers that were already running to stay up for a bit so they could monitor all the traffic. But then again the 80s happened so it's not like it was there first time in control of a drug operation... lol
well yea they just gave me crack yesterday
The cia also used to run (or probably still does) the south american drug market to fund operations
Just ask the real Rick Ross. He was selling Cia cocaine and Crack for years
They can do all this but nobodys gonna arrest EDP, that's crazy
edp didnt do anything he could get arrested for sadly but there are alot of youtubers that did way worst things then edp so why bring up him?
@@GODEATER2it’s a pretty famous story, and bringing him up isn’t saying that he was the worst one or anything, people can be mad at multiple people
@@user-di4is6df9x wasnt real children it was adults pretending to be kids which is still pretty bad but i dont think they can arrest him for that
@GODEATER2 yes they can lmfao its called intent. The law doesn't care that they were over 18 because he believed he was talking to minors it's the same shit with the to catch a predator show they used actors over 18 but the people still got charged because they worked with police and the intent was clearly shown. EDP didn't get charged because the internet detectives didn't work with the police and most likely obtained evidence illegally ruining any chance of him being arrested. The other possibility is since they didn't work with the police they could have messaged him in a way that could be taken as entrapment
@@GODEATER2 imagine an actual child showed up. 💀💀 then what? you think EDP will give th child a high-five and walk away? be fucking for real
They really couldnt use people who kind of looked younger but were really over 18 and just said it was CP? It literally took me like 5 seconds to think that one through, how did it not even dawn on them?
theres alreadys weirdos who are over 18 and make creepy content (like making themself appear young) they could've gotten those people
What's crazier is that Instagram is flooded with women who exclusively Loli Bait. They could've just acquired anyone from that hellsite
@@BruhMoment-kh8cgnot as bad as Pixiv
Fr these agents are stupid
@@BruhMoment-kh8cga halfway decent defense lawyer could get a case like that dropped unfortunately
Thankfully the FBI " investigated itself, and found no wrong doing".
Thankfully you didn’t watch the video
@@rayaanansari4834 thankfully he can have his own opinion
@@Oniichananithankfully chain
@rayaanansari4834 tell me what to think youtuber.
@@Oniichananihe can, shitty opinions still are opinions ig
Takes me back a year ago to when I tipped off a senior cop from my church, about a peedoh ring in his jurisdiction. 2 days later my net speed slowed down and I noticed I had a new IP address that, when looked up, belonged to an outfit called i3-Corps, using office space at LAPD HQ. Good times. Took a lot of phone calls and some help from the ACLU to make the spying on ME stop. Me, the guy that reported crime not the guy doing any crime.
Police seem exist to protect criminals, not remove them from society, at this point.
That's how it goes unfortunately
Never talk to police.
Lol lesson learned, law enforcement is no one's friend and doesn't care about actual justice
How did you find the new ip?
This is really disturbing and leaves a really bad taste in my mouth. Anyone involved with distributing illegal material should be in jail for a long hefty time and I’m disappointed with how they handled the situation.
I wouldn't be surprised if some superior officers are using this as an excuse to launder their cp. making it seem it was found in raids but really they are just getting rid of paper trails.
The government essentially digitally blackmails all of its citizens in the event that they rock the boat of the establishment.
You people will see an organisation do an objectively good thing, but because it's part of the government you will assume it's bad. I guarantee you wouldn't care if an organisation of independent hackers brought this site and the people running it to justice.
They distributed illegal material... the same thing they threw other people in jail for. This isn't a sting this is criminal activities that normal people would be put in jail for even if they were trying to catch somebody. Some people need to go to jail and a lot of people need to lose their job, maybe the whole agency because the rot runs deep.
Wrong order, the Child Abusers masquerading as law enforcement need to lose their jobs *then* go to jail. In gen pop.
@@neighbor4772 THATS EXACTLY WHAT I THOUGHT OF
classic fbi
Exactly
Depending on how it was set up they also profited off of it. Absolutely disgusting people should be in jail over this.
Lmao fbi paid this guy i grew up with 6 figures to recruit people to commit heinous crimes. I didn’t believe it till shit hit trial, shit was wild
R.I.P Mutahar
Suicide by drowning in his own sink, truly heartbreaking
He actually shot himself in the back of the head 18 times
Rip 🙏. He seems to have died naturally from 50 Stray Bullets.
slipped on a bar of soap in the shower and fell onto a knife 82 times
Shot himself 6 times in the head while driving his body near a bridge and jumping off it...
ahh yeah despite their seemed to be a "sign of force entry" at the door, they'll ignore and call it a day
No exemptions ever for any reason. If we allow this in any space they will use (as they do) it as a weapon against us.
"The Industrial Revolution and its consequences have been a disaster for the human race."
Real
lets be honest the FBI is the biggest distributor and possessor of such material.
No
@@blankspace2891 yes. At the very least they have to archive all of it for court cases and they need someone to watch that shit and basically make a record of what happens in each video if it's relevant to the court case.
In addition to that they also share the same materials to criminals in honeypot sites
@@blankspace2891 You can say no. But you're wrong.
@@blankspace2891go do research
Because they face zero consequences for such.
If any of those predators end up walking free because the FBI engaged in such shady conduct, I'm going to be pissed. This sets a dangerous precedent.
They'll go free so the FBI can "keep tabs on them."
What are u talking about? They always do most child predators are let free after a decade of prison time there’s like a single one every like 5 years that gets hit with the life time but most don’t get that many years
@@wild5851 And that's the judges fault.
They wouldn't have caught them if they hadn't anyway, so they'd have already been free, at least this way there is a chance
i mean the rich predators from a certain man's island seem to be walking free now as unfortunate as that sounds. why is that surprising?
-monitoring people this way is illegal
-fbi : but we need to catch people breaking the law like we are
Inception
"I am on the FBI watchlist"
"So are everyone"
Glad they finally started up a cyber protection service.
the technology they have is laughable, for a lot of tech it is stuff used when windows 7 was used
@@907kyle7the funds were cut in 2008, but windows 95 is great for server stuff since all the ins and outs compared to XP to 11
I'm so glad they started up a cod points service
Glad to hear the FBI are taking civil protection seriously
glad you still decide to like-bot your AI generated comments
Everyone: How do we reduce CP on the dark web?
FBI: How about we funnel it with more CP?
Tor Browser doesn't designed to support or aid in that.
@@TywinLannister0am I tweakin or did he not mention anything about the tor browser aiding in it
@@TywinLannister0oh it doesn't designed, didn't it
@@na-vn5qy Tor browser is involved with the dark web, without the tor browser. the dark web wouldn't exist. and People abuse the privacy and anonymity of Tor and get rich and likely never donate to the creators or maintainers of tor while all along creating market places to commit crime thinking their safe under Tor's protection.
@@scirvylol no you're good 👍🏻
the fbi is like the avengers
they saved the city, but trashed it in the process
The city was only endangered because of an entrapment scheme designed by the CIA and paid for by a plant from the NSA.
your videos are always really detailed and insightful, i always end your video overly educated on whatever you spoke about that day. super engaging.
I think that unfortunately you can’t always justify awful actions with good results. Protecting children is a very good thing, but if the government does gross actions to achieve it, then it becomes normalized and accepted as a standard procedure. There is also the optics of it. When the government breaks the law to “uphold the law”, then they lose the legitimacy. There are procedures and proper ways to do things that, while maybe not as immediately effective, do not risk overreach and is more effective in the long term.
They also could have just, not actually distributed it.
The ones behind the operation should be arrested.
Yeah. This type of stuff absolutely should not be normalized by the feds
@@Filthy_Cubes good to see some senible takes in these comments
Absolutely. It's very easy to let these things slide when the crime is so heinous, but this ultimately gives them more and more wriggle-room to enact this shit on the rest of us. Also, the ultimate issue with distributing CSAM is the revictimisation of those exploited, which the FBI _amplified_ in their seizure of the site. They did not consult the survivors, they did not compensate them, they went ahead and used them as bait without their permission.
However disgusting child predators are, the FBI is behaving little better in doing this. You cannot fight fire with fire, especially on a issue like this. It makes me wonder how many of those websites are actually under their control, serving as "honeypots" while furthering the victimisation of CSAM survivors.
Fucking revolting.
@@ScrawnyTreeDemon exactly. The whole “who cares they are targeting f*cking pedos” people are missing the point. I don’t care that they hacked pedos. I care that they circumvented the system to hopefully hack some pedos and ask for permission after the fact (hopefully not messing with entire criminal proceedings in doing so). This recklessness not only gives legitimate criminals a way out, but also gives justification to target anyone without a court order in hopes that they will get whoever they consider a deplorable.
I’m not a fan of slippery slope arguments because obviously a line has to be set somewhere, so how about we set the line on getting a f*cking warrant first!
I love that they will go to the depth of compromising personal liberties to catch child predators. But they can’t set up simple stings, and UA-camrs catch more predators than cops do daily 🤦♂️.
Issue is stings are too time absorbent for them to constantly try and set them up
@AK-sx4zp exactly. That's why I personally believe they need to get rid of certain organizations, (looking at YOU ATF) and create a dedicated federal organization focused solely on child and other sexual predators
@@lucassmith1886
Dont they already have that?
@@lucassmith1886dude that’s actually a fucking great idea. I just looked it up and the human trafficking industry is worth $150 billion annually while the drug trade is worth about $360 billion annually and the DEA was formed during a time when it was worth much less.
I wonder what the reason for that not being formed is or if it’s thought of as too niche of an issue for it to fall under a single organization. The problem with that is that it doesn’t get focused on the way it deserves to if it’s left to regular law enforcement as they have to focus on literally every crime.
I know there’s tons of vigilante watch dog groups that specialize in busting rings and what not, but there absolutely needs to be a letter agency dedicated to that with federal funding and resources. That shit is probably single handedly, the most evil industry and makes me question the intent for not forming something for that, when the issue is so massive.
@@revolvingworld2676Amnesty international is probably the closest organization when it comes to that, but that’s really more of a worldwide movement focused on human rights violations on a broader spectrum and they don’t have jurisdiction in the way a law enforcement agency would and the issue absolutely deserves that. Along with a ton of watch dog groups formed by citizens.
The issue definitely needs government funding and a law enforcement entity behind it when it’s such a massive issue/industry. I would absolutely support a letter agency like a CIA/FBI dedicated to the issue solely, in the same way there’s the DEA for drugs.
Didn't know that the FBI secretly ran an organization about cerebral palsy and aimed on helping to those people who suffered from the disorder. Good job to them.
BASED FBI
FBI protecting the brainz
cant believe the fbi was giving free cod points, disgusting.
When the government does something illegal, it's fine, but when I do it, I get arrested.
damn goverment privileges
@@ZombossGamingChannelit’s probably a fake website to lure weird people in
These darn feds ruining the fun!
Broo you got arrested? For what?
is bro really making the argument that he should be able to watch cp 💀
While I appreciate FBI for apprehending those criminals, the problem I see with this is it sets a dangerous precedent. Today, such invasive tech was used for a good cause but hard to tell if their intentions will stay that way.
Another issue is if it wasn't the government doing this act, the third party would most likely be punished harder.
They barely arrested the people they actually caught. A six digit number of people used the site and the FBI only arrested three digits worth of people, most of whom got their cases thrown out because the FBI considered protecting their invasive tech more valuable than protecting children.
I dont think you understand WHY they did it...
@@trumpisthemessiah7017 No more political dissent
I like how EVERYTHING has to be bad.
"ACLU stumbled upon the cure for all cancers!" - "IT MUST BE THE DEVIL!"
"Congress passed a bill that allows people to use the bathrooms they feel comfortable with." - "THEY SUPPORT CHILD RAPE!"
"We pulled out of afghanistan after so many years that if it were a real person it could legally drink!" - "WE PULLED OUT TOO FAST AND NOW THE TALIBAN TOOK OVER AND BECAUSE I'M A DUMBASS I DON'T KNOW THE FIRST THING ABOUT AFROSTANISTAN!!!"
Fight fire with fire, until we can develop "Anti-pedophile laser cannons in space", I would LOVE to hear other proposals on how to catch them. This is the same thing chris hansen did back in the day.
They already abuse it. This is literally an example of them abusing it. This scenario just happens to be one we can all get behind but that doesn't change the fact that it's proof that they abuse this sh1t
Thanks for speaking for us man. This needs to stop
There was a quote that pretty much said that one must be careful in fighting monsters, as to not turn oneself into the very monsters
Iwonder how many FBI agents got caught by accident and nothing happened to these people. Most "stings" these days seem to have agents as leaders or the most commited people in the group
Spider-Man pointing at Spider-Man meme is real.
Well, to be fair, it's far safer and easier going after gullible marks than actual hardened criminals who cover their tracks well and/or have means to attack people that try to arrest them. 🤷♂️
@@insensitive919 so they bait idiots to inflate the numbers so they can pretend they are doing something
They did a 'CP" sting in BC Canada and 90% of those caught were RCMP.
@@BeardedGingerdo you have a source for that? I heard of one rcmp officer being caught but only one.
This is a case of fighting evil with evil in a sense. Im glad those weirdos got caught but looking at it ethically does make this damning
Don’t even know how some of the FBI could even bare looking at some of that CP. my stomach would be fuckin churning, I could never
@@vanguardoffreedom20 in this case they 100% do. because nobody is being hurt by this be the pervs that are going to jail.
whats the downside of this? you afraid they will catch YOU???
I doubt they put up the really bad stuff. They probably just have more like family photos. You know how moms are.@@baldmista1907
I know those fbi liked their work 😏
@@baldmista1907Same thing with people who dont mind gore, it just takes mental training or get exposed to it enough times to get numb to it.
This is my first video of yours, I’ve been a wendigoon sub since 20k, I will be watching more, keep up the good work!
On the topic of FBI shenanigans, I was big into pirating games in the mid-00s. One day after clicking a through a few shady torrent sites, my webcam turned on for a few seconds, and my background was turned into a picture of me with an fbi warning message. freaky shit.
Is that even legal?
@@ZeytinciDevleti Probably not.
I remember Alex Jones saying FBI had the biggest CP collection in the world and agents we're getting addicted to it. 5 or 6 years ago..
They also sent some of it to him that he never opened just hoping they could entrap him for a political agenda.
A lot of the shit Alex Jones said has so far turned out to be true. People only thought he was fruitloops because of how he worded it.
a broken clock is right twice a day
@@ccda3324 he's right more often than not.
@@ccda3324pretty much yeah, there’s a good reason he got sued into oblivion for defamation
"we were trying to lure criminals in"
You needed new material for your customers and new people to blackmail into control.
Cough, Cough, Epstein, Cough.
Also mote funding.
"See all these pedos we caught? (That we set up and planeted)"
Yeah?
"We need more funding to do better (to set up more crisis)"
basically the lesser-elites that visit these sites are instantly flagged for the FBI to blackmail
Epstein was used by Mossad and our government to blackmail high profile people. Wonder who replaced him.
And I can't read the replies because of the censer of Themtube. They are scared of the true coming out. The CEO of Themtube wants to keep Susans legacy of censer. Protect the kids, transition hurt the kids
my grandfather owned a porn store and he actually worked with the fbi to catch child predators in like the 80s
There has never been a time when the FBI was not corrupt.
The issue is that it opens up a precedent for the FBI to use these tactics for other laws, or even as we've seen lately. political dissidents.
Lmfao COINTELPRO has been a thing for decades because of the red scare, it's hilarious you think it hasn't changed
the FBI have been spying on African Americans for years even to this day
Bingo
It’s a precedent they already had opened unfortunately. Atleast sometimes it’s used to catch sickos and not just honeypot anyone they can.
@@Justicejuice179 Until a malicious hacker finds one of the vulnerabilities and uses it. It's not worth keeping secret zero days,
Sometimes the only way to catch scumbags is to swim in the same filth, unfortunate for the FBI workers who have to deal with this depravity.
The F.B.I. are the also the scumbags that need to be caught
Like they haven't recuited those people to work for them in exchange for plea deals.
Its so hard having to party with epstein every weekend. Prayers to all the hardworkers
J Edgar Hoover approves
@@nojuanatall3281 I'd bet money on that having not having happened, yet at least. For many reasons.
This make "FBI! OPEN UP!" have a way different meaning💀
Truly a "rules for thee not for me" moment
Not really if it’s doing a net good, I think of this as the modern version of an FBI agent going undercover to join the mafia in order to get insider information/collect evidence
@@movieforceofficialWhy is the D in parentheses?
@@Argonak1he's trying to say the Democrats are at fault when both parties are just as guilty as the other.
It is the whole problem of enforcement in general.
so you dont want children protected? you would give up their virginity to save your privacy huh?
The FBI as well as the CIA need to be intensely monitored by someone with a conscience and strong knowledge of the law, because obviously neither organization possesses someone like that. They should be defunded dramatically until they can get their shit together, and then once they actually start doing some good they should be fed a larger budget bit by bit. I think every government agency should receive this treatment, but these two especially.
“a man who trades his freedom for security deserves neither and will give up both.”
My FBI agent has now seen this and knows I have too. Watch out muda, they’re coming for you
Same
For those questioning why this is bad and thinking "it's just like that hire a hitman site, it's meant to catch bad guys!"
That hitman site never actually hired a hitman or got anyone killed, that's the difference.
Bingo. And on top of that, what assurances can we possibly have that the agency didn’t produce illicit material themselves other than their word? Because we already know what their word is worth.
@@jsan2548yea the FBI was proven to be involved in the murder of Martin Luther king according to the Shelby county court. Wouldn't trust a glowie as far as I could throw em 🤣
@@jsan2548 It's extremely unlikely the agency actually produced that content considering thousands of terabytes of that content is already out there. There are people who syphon those videos off the normal web and resell it, no reason the government wouldn't do the same if needed.
ohhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhh
Man I'm just feeling :Aware: like depressed at this shit man
@@ManamuneAnada Regardless of where they got it from, which is likely the evidence locker, they still distributed such material with no assurance on where it would end up. Potentially to be shared thousands of times further for years to come because they were trying to entrap people. So double illegal on their part, but because "protect the children", this tyranny will be ignored.
Committing a crime makes you a criminal, unless you're a 3 letter agency, I guess.
just ask the CIA about its little Drug Trafficking scheme
True but the 3 letter agency is committing a crime to put a stop to criminals who will continue to commit more crimes, and in this specific case you never know if these predators they took down would have eventually moved onto actually targeting children in real life rather than just looking at pictures online. It’s truly a grey area, does committing a crime to take down evil people justify the crime? Idk it’s really hard to say imo.
@@patrickdoyle174 CIA has done some messed up stuff, war crimes etc. hard to justify that.
@@patrickdoyle174You could’ve ended that sentence way sooner and just said “The 3 letter agency is committing a crime”. A honeypot that hosted legal content which is advertised as illegal content could’ve been used, while still questionable at least no victims are being re-victimised.
They got away with JFK, MLK, and I highly suspect Epstein too.
when people give me the "i have nothing to hide" argument
I then ask them why they close the door when they go to the bathroom, what are they hiding in there?
surveillance states basically want to record you while your in the bathroom because you might be doing terrorist things in there or whatever i guess
The problem with this thinking is it doesn't account for being framed or mistaken identity. If everyone believes the surveilling body/agency/govt knows everything about everyone then if they say you were hiding something, even if you have nothing to hide, then you must have been hiding something. Without privacy, and choosing what to share with others, you have no control over your reputation.
if you think about it, life in prison as a child predator is a death sentence within itself
Then the FBI should be locked up.
Life in prison is just a long drawn out death sentence for anybody.
@@MrPC1121 ok buddy
11 minutes in prison as a child predator is a death sentence.
not really, at risk prisoners tend to get protective costody
The fbi probably runs the flush feature on all toilets with sensors
Bro I was just thinking about that today 💀
The fact I just used one them makes me confused cause it didn't flush.
@@ebonylopez4249they were on lunch break
@@ebonylopez4249 Then someone is slacking off!
they probably run the hummingbirds flying near your house
I actually learned a bit about this topic in a recent class. I'm glad that this video was made so I have a better understanding of the topic and awareness is spread.
My personal opinion, I don't know how the fbi should have gone about the playpen situation, but that was not the method to do it. As stated in this video, the nature of NIT creates many unintended targets and uses multiple forms of malware. From my understanding, learning about it myself, some of the malware was designed to compromise TORs inherent encryption, leaving users completely exposed. For the intended targets, this is whatever. However, this also means that on top of the revictimization of children, they also lead to the potential victimization in many forms of thousands of people. While, they're intent was good and their targets got less than what they deserved, I'm not sure if I can call it a net good. It's like they used to a chainsaw to crack an egg.
Every organization must justify its existence, and the FBI is no different. They do stuff like that to prove that they are using their budget appropriately, and in fact, they'll ask for a bigger budget the following year.
Yup, and makes me feel disgusting that my tax money is going to that horrible stuff. They need to be audited and overhauled if not disbanded.
@@JCDenton3 For catching predators? Do you not realise how much the production and distribution of this material would increase? There would be no surveilance on the internet and that breeds illegal activity.
@kallekulmala1876 that is such a small part of what the FBI does, and what responsibilities it has in that realm could be given to another agency created for that purpose. Even still, given how much fomenting of unrest, entrapment, and essentially starting their own fires they can then put out the FBI does in numerous other cases, I wonder how much they are contributing to the images of children among other awful things online. That's why I said they need to be fully audited top to bottom.
@@JCDenton3I love these comments, it's basically just projecting your own pedophilic thoughts onto the FBI "well they did it because I think they did it! and I only think they did it because I would do it in their shoes"
now ik why you people are so mad about this, they took down your source of CP!
Growing up everyone thought if you said the word "bomb" over a phone line (pre mobile) that your phone would be automatically recorded by the UK (and US by the huge "airbases" like Menwith Hill that we had scattered all over the country). This was a pretty pervasive to the point everybody thought it. This stuff has been going on forever unfortunately.
Used to work for a British dial up ISP in 1999-2003 ish. The Network admins, server support teams and service desks all used Packeteer! We also used something called Sam Spade. I wonder if that was also courtesy of the the FBI.
One of the biggest issues of this isn't even that they broke the law or did immoral stuff it's that they did those things and in doing so could have caused all those freaks to get away free.
This so EASILY could fall under entrapment.
Fbi being involved with CP? Color me suprised
they baited pedos with CP
Well they gotta catch those mfs somehow
@@skimsakj642yeah and best way to catch a killer is to make victim's easy targets. Ala purple shirted eye stabber.
@skimsakj642 They are those mfs bro 😭
Who could have seen that coming
The problem here is when the government is found to be in violation of the law in procuring evidence the courts have a tendency to toss out their cases as they legally won't hold up in court. Which means you have more criminals walking and being a lot more careful not to get busted again.
It's important that the government follows the proper legal procedures so this never happens.
i mean its kids dude who tf cares if they caught them in a non legal way. they should still be charged and sent away. granted they could of found a better way tbh. but i mean come on you get in trouble for that, and they go well they did it this way so you can go. LIKE BRO YOU HAD CP WHO CARES HOW YOU GOT CAUGHT
@@serahmus9178 The court cannot, in good faith, believe prosecutors and law enforcement if the court and jury knows law enforcement broke the law to bring a defendant infront of them. How can the court rule out the possibity that law enforcement is not telling the truth? They can't, and any lawyer can easily just say: "This evidence cannot be proven valid, the police broke the law during the investigation, for all you know they might have planted it, its obvious they are not transparent" Thats why people care.
Laws sometimes hinder good things, but breaking them to uphold the system they exist in is hypocrisy at best, and downright evil at worst. if you are gonna break laws, atleast don't be a hypocrite about it.
@@velenteriushendeneros3251 yes because people plant cp on people everyday. im sorry if you had cp and got caught with it im calling bs. its your personal pc you should know whats on it. and 2 they're already on gross sites so even if it was planted tough tits, dont go there again????. and honestly i dont care about the courts faith LMAO. its all corrupt bs anyways at least let us put that filth away
Some of the government is pretty corrupt. - davey
This probably still goes on more widespread than people think. Everything we know is 1% of what's really going on.
laws are only as effective as the loyalty that binds men to them.
“I used the CP to destroy the CP”
💀💀💀💀💀
*YOU BECAME THE VERY THING THAT YOU SWORE TO DESTROY!!*
If only they took the Epstein case seriously.
Above their pay grade
they wouldn't do that silly, because if they did then i'm sure the people who are above their job title are going to come down with it!
Great video Muta
Nobody will ever be able to convince me that the FBI isn’t morally dubious
tbf that's kind of the job
video starts at 1:30
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no way did mutahar really shoted him self 22 times ?
First he tried stabbing himself, which failed, then crawled to the door, where he proceeded to smash his head with the door, then decided to just shoot himself because hes an unstoppable tank. Tragic he took his own life, the warnings were there when he claimed to being watched by men in a white van outside his house after talking smack about the fbi. Thats a clear sign hes deranged in the head
He drank cyanide actually
Man, how is it possible to be so funny while talking about such serious matters? Thank you stupid youtube algo for recommending me this gem. Subbed.
You skipped the most horrifying thing about drive-by attacks, where you don't even have to do anything and they still infect you.
Muta is going to be shocked when he realizes there is no way to commit crime on a regular basis anywhere without institutional support.
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@@itsawill9268meaning creating crime or baiting
@@1pyroace1 This is like saying "100% of the people that breathe die, therefore stop breathing to live"
Not to mention, they might be catching low lvl preds, but the ones that work above them become a massive problem when they do find there IP on there sites. Like hunter.
@@1pyroace1 IMO organised crime is the cause of 80% of crime. No one would steal shit unless people/companies helped you convert it into cash. Law "enforcement" will often enable certain groups to engage in this, but beat down on others doing the same. Selective enforcement.
I talked to a guy that worked in cyber security and he said that feds all across the world do this all the time
The FBI agents who were in charge of that should also get slapped with distribution charges. They're breaking the law in any reasonable person would know that that's not okay to revictimize victims.
Depending on how that site was set up they also profited off of it. Absolutely disgusting, people need to lose their jobs and some people need to go to jail.
Plus it means they spread them again. They can't monitor every single thing that happened, yk like who the fuck knows if someone kept these pictures, shared them again and all. This is just stupid to spread these gross material and re-victimized the victims. Or at least maybe,,, if the victims are adults now, ask them for consent before doing that.... AT LEAST.
Isn't this the case where some FBI agents became addicted to it and loaded up illegal material to their personal thumb drives?
Yes lol
@@GBgreatness How could someone become addicted to CP? Something I will never understand. I found something extremely suspicious on the surface on a site and I was shocked to see the amount of actual CP there, and yes I did report it anonymous. It was just literally making me gag and be sick because the kids looked young and like they had a gun pointed to their heads. Made me sick and I know I can't remember the name of the site.
@@zaynes5094a lot of times people who abuse were abused themselves- its not an excuse for their disgusting behavior but it shows that there is a cycle
@@zaynes5094 Porn is about as addictive as cocaine and has the same problem with driving addicts towards ever increasing content.
People with porn addictions build up a sort of tolerance to what they watch. Eventually they continue to watch corn with more pervasive, intense, and disgusting topics. Some people have watched so much that they can only get off on paraphilic material, including CP. It probably has to do with the taboo subject matter, plus the fact that since it's their job to view CP day in and day out they become used to the shock of seeing such horrible things, until they stop looking at it as children being abused and instead see it as just a hardcore form of pornographic material, which is why they dont even see these children as human. (Especially since they are PURPOSEFULLY SPREADING IT AROUND.) Or at least thats my guess.@@zaynes5094
FBI ran Club Penguin, i knew it
Predictable honestly 😮
The Australian Federal police and FBI should be disgusted in themselves. They did something illgeal to arrest people for doing the same thing.
That's like a cop smokin' crack and then arresting another person for smoking crack YOU DID THE SAME CRIME.
I wonder how many government employees visited that website. Anyone recall the report of thousands of pentagon employees having that kind of material on their computers and then the story just disappeared?
It's a great for blackmailing. They now can't say no or resign without "paying their debt". Just like the mafia.
Any law enforcement of any kind should be held to the same, if not higher, standards of any citizen. They should be held extremely accountable in any instance where they violate the law for any reason, the same as any citizen would. Just as there is no tolerance to break laws for a citizen, there should definitely not be any tolerance for those entrusted to enforce law to bend, break, and abuse it. If a citizen breaks a law in the pursuit of justice, the prevention of harm, or otherwise, they will be held accountable regardless of their intentions, whether they meant to, or even understood what they were doing. The exact same should apply regardless of the motivation, intention, or what "good" came of it. If you truly believe in law, and enforcement of law, then they should all apply equally to everyone, and everything equally.
so let the peds go huh? you are sick...
We need more batmen, not judge dread's.
The problem with that is humans aren't robots. You put a bunch of people up against criminals (who are more and more protected by the law every day), some of them will end up doing unlawful things. You play in dirt, you get dirty. If you are too zealous in prosecuting cops for the rules they break, they'll soon choose to err on the side of caution and not take any risks. See Baltimore for the results. You can call it wrong all you want but this is how things work in the real world outside a courtroom.
Batman gets thousands of people killed every time he puts joker in jail ... knowing he will escape. We need real people ... not idiot super heroes.@@Quinnstonshires
@@trumpisthemessiah7017lazy bait.
For good or bad, it's events like this that creates legal precedent for future cases, just something to keep in mind.
and the technology and legal precedents will eventually be used against innocent people, similar to what happened to Vietnam protesters.
@@someonerandom704what was the precedent they were shot under? interesting
For good or bad, this is why it is vital that even confirmed criminals get legal representation. The whole point of those lawyers, even when they know their client is guilty, should be to ensure our agencies followed the process correctly, otherwise these cases can be used for more nefarious measures in the future against innocent peoplem
i thought it was a cerebral palsy thing and now im disgusted
Lmao as someone with cerebral Palsy I've stopped using that acronym because of this connotation.
Making exceptions for good reasons gets followed by making exceptions for bad ones.
Shout out to our homies that do this work. It's important to keep everyone safe but you know that's gotta take a huge mental toll
And as Mutahar points out, there's also examples of really horrible things the feds have done, especially to civil rights leaders, but going after people who hurt kids is absolutely okay in my book and we should pass some kind of Batman clause where as long as they wear a cape and tights, they're allowed to break at least one civil liberty
You say that as if majority of them aren't pedos anyway. FBI has the biggest CP possession in the world.
They love it. That's why they apply. So...keep shouting out sickos
My buddy's parents used to work in the FBI before retiring, they had a colleague that ended up resulting in a suicide from having to see the amount of child pornography and indecent acts in the videos.
Edit: Grammar issues
@@ManchesterIsNotReal How are you Ivan?
It's more of a reason not to put all of your trust in these 3 letter organizations.
they gonna care for a little and drop it. funny comment section thinking that from now CP will be controlled. welcome to the fucking internet
When you create crimes so you can prevent them, you are the baddies.
@@CygnusOrb I would agree with that.
@@makepeoplemadsounds like something a fed would say.
@@makepeoplemad Just like Trump was going to drain the swamp, right? Right..?
I saw this video thinking, “ok he’s going to talk about the one that they made for the congressmen, wait… there’s another one?!”
13:05 That one guy after he loses a 1v1 at a COD lobby at 3AM
They violated quite a few laws.. as much as I hate trying to pick a side with sicko's. I do not want to live in a world where our privacy can be so easily broken, even if it's for a good cause. And I feel this is a point to stand on loud and proud, because it is as you said. It's not about any average user having nothing to hide, it's what this can be used for as long as they can find a good justification to sell it that this suddenly becomes alright? Historically I can name a whole list of how easily this could've been misused for disastrous and nefarious purposes that big parts of those climate's could've found an agreement on. This is a NO from me on so many levels.
sounds like you have some stuff to hide buddy ngl
@@LuhStiddy"why do you care about privacy!!! if you have nothing to hide then its okay!!!!!"
@thecommonloon "we can do something about it but we don't want to so we'll take your privacy instead because we're incompetent"
It's physically impossible to zero in on certain things on the dark web without some laws being broken. It's literally designed to be hard to trace for that reason.
So your option is give away some of that freedom, or literally allow criminals to get away with anything they want there.
@@LuhStiddy alright man then are you okay with me going into your house whenever i want to and being there as long as you want me to?
hmm you don't? but i thought you said u have nothing to hide??
Imagine my shock.
This is the guy who’s ads I don’t skip
All the tracking shit at the start is enough for me to finally get a VPN with my next check. Thanks dude.
Gonna quickly watch this before the FBI hunts you down 💀
Bro might get replaced by an ai one day, and we wouldn't know
only proves his point how evil the FBI is
Every single time he talks about the fbi or cia this comment is the most common. Come on
@@uh4875 I haven’t seen it icl. I don’t really go in the comments much
I think there will always be issues with the death penalty, you'll always get false convictions and when someone's already getting the death penalty they'll likely stop at nothing (i.e. killing their victims and refusing to turn themselves in) to cover their tracks, ultimately harming victims further.
also some victims don't want the criminal to die. the main reason they give the penalty is to appease the public.
The death penalty would stop a bunch of victims for reporting their abuse, especially children
@@thirdwheel9938 ESPECIALLY if the abuser is a family member or family friend
@@thirdwheel9938 Exactly, the death penalty is just a bad idea, one screw up out of 1000 is too much, let alone the current estimate of 1 in 24, and it doesn't disincentivize crime either
Muta honestly between you and my brother (made a satellite out of a spaghetti strainer and tinfoil) cyber security is amazing been trying to study as much as I can