You would be a fool lol, the difference is usually noticeable after two generations, changing phone every year is just stupid, and I bet you don't make daily 1K£ like I do, but I guess poor people at least can show up with brand new phone 😂
No. I played with all 3 of the new s24 models, and if your s22 feels fast enough (it should, as my s21 Exynos still feels fast) and you can play the games you want, then no. I also went into developer options and set window animations, transition animations and animator to .5 instead of 1. Amazing how much of a difference in everyday use. The new s24 AI felt like a gimmick, isn't going to be useful most of the time, and doesn't accomplish much other phones have the power to do once they open the software to it on older and lower models. I liked the idea of offering suggestions for text rewrites, but the rest? Nah. The only exception being a more instantaneous response. And I am someone who uses Google Translate on my s21 every day, here in Asia.@@jexter0
Am I the only one who thinks that the S23U is consistently better across the tests? The gap is really really small but I feel the S24U suffers from unoptimised software at the moment.
Yup when s23 ultra came s22 ultra beat it now look at both same thing 2 updates later s24 ultra will kick s23 ultra ass as s23 ultra kicked s22 ultra ass s22 plus user
@@Techtablets I know this is a big ask but, could you do a S22 Ultra vs S24 Ultra comparison? No need for an in depth comparison, just a quick take on overall speed, photos and videos. My guess is that I should still wait for the S25 Ultra(?)
Full agreed. Most difference was s22ultra vs s23ultra. New ufs 4.0, most natural screen calibration, (i know you can adb use development and changing) soo much better speakers, efficient of 8gen2 battery its crazy. But after 442 charging actually my s23u has 4070mah. Was sot 10.5-11h now; 7.5-8.5max.. 😢 verry bad quality battery. And dont use hard aps. Yt, light aps, only 4g, and s23ultra new front camera better. And s24u should be lighter than s23u and its joke. 1g lighter.😂😂 234vs233😂 crazy... Frame TITANIUM CHINESE.😂
I don't see any reason to upgrade my S23U. There is not that much difference to upgrade. Probably the IA functions also will come to the S23U so it will still getting better and better🥰 Very good review👍
Same here. Even considering that the AI features or Galaxy AI that is currently exclusive to s24 U will be coming to our devices sometime next quarter. I even advised my brother to buy a brand new s23 ultra as his android device as it is disgustingly cheap at the moment.
@@asht5905with all the preorder stuff I got my S24 Plus 512 gb with free watch 6 around 120€ cheaper than the cheapest S23+ I could get in germany. This time it will take a longer time to get them cheaper than right now
My observation of the video quality is that S23 zoom is better than S24. Set this video to 4K, full screen, pause it at 1:18. Look at the text on the black sign. You can (just barely) read the website and the phone number on S23, but on S24 it's impossible. Granted, image quality is not just the pixel count, it is however an important aspect.
Not a necessarily notable thing but a difference nonetheless. Overall the S24 Ultra looks better there (to me) but you can definitely see the advantage of optical with minor details.
Fabulous, thanks. This is like one of those Audiophile tests where you're trying to convince yourself that the expensive new Hi-fi sounds better. Maybe, in a silent room but otherwise you're never going to notice: As an old, professional, technical photographer I discovered a long time ago that you can burn a lot of cash trying to improve on lens designs from years ago: it looks like the remarkable phone optics have now reached some sort of plateau. I have been waiting to see what the S24 offered, but IMHO the discounted S23 makes WAY more sense. The rarely mentioned Ai subscription model that they're trying to roll out globally is best avoided as long as possible too! JM
3:06 10x is clearly better on the s24 more natural & sharper on launch. with updates it will get better in every aspect. s23 at launch had its own issues & got better overtime
@@OttomanKayiGazi In poor light, yes. The 23U has worse aperture on the lens and has to increase the ISO for the same light level. Let it be 1:57 there is plenty of light. The image of the 23U is significantly better and with the 24U you can see that the same "focus" is made by cropping and sharpening. 23U looks much more natural.
I can get the same quality using Expert Raw on my s23u. So no reason to upgrade to s24u. But the s25U would be dope. Cant wait for the 1" 200mp sensor @@OttomanKayiGazi
I'm a Samsung fan, but I think that today, we have to admit that Samsung is really purposely staying in excessive oversaturation and unnecessary overexposure in photo-video 🤦🏽♂️ Samsung should genuinely think about adding a realistic color profile to its photo app for photography, or allowing users to have something like the ''Photographic Style'' of iPhones, to allow us Galaxy users who can't stand oversaturation and excessive overexposure to adjust that. Ps: don't tell me about the Pro mode (I've known and used it for years), I ask to have this in automatic mode, not everyone is (certainly not) a professional photographer, but would like to have the possibility to make some quick adjustments to their liking.
Well put, agreed on all points. With S23U after all the updates, I still take photos with Expert Raw and edit in Lightroom. Sad, but with the AI era this procedure should belong to museum and history.
Tamed as in take advantage of it? If u mean for them to stop doing it you're our luck. Samsung is trying to go higher every few models untill we reach a 600MP camera.
now THIS is what we've been waiting for! I don't agree with most of your conclusions though, in most cases I prefer S23U, which is quite a good news for the budget. Only concrete difference is reduced sharpening, but an average user might even prefer sharpening.
It's funny, I hate the curved display. The Note 20 and S23 Ultra are the only screens that ever broke on ne and it wad from drops of about 6 inches with screen protectors and cases.
Thanks to the improved updates that the S23 ultra received, it is now better than when it was released in terms of the camera. We also hope that they will accelerate the updates.
I will say that when I heard that Samsung was dropping the 10x camera, I had kind of written this phone off, but I'm glad to see that the 10x shots with the 5x camera are at least comparable. Still, I have concerns at the more extreme ranges. On my S22 Ultra, I often zoomed into shots of wildlife because I couldn't get close and at 20x and 30x, those shots were still useable.
Some people are hoping for software updates to improve the 24U. God, the S23U has the same sensor and is already updated for a year now, it's the same sensor on the 24U. It's not like Samsung is using a much larger sensor or the native pixel size is bigger.... it's the same sensor.
I've pre ordered the s24 ultra and I'm already regretting it.. I've seen a few camera comparisons and s24 ultra doesn't seem to impress too much. For example look at this comparison. The fact I have to pixel peep just to see a difference is not good. A whole year and new phone and I have to squint my eyes and look just to see a change means the changes are very little. I'm not happy
So Samsung didn't really focus on huge camera improvements, considering I can barely see any. They were much more focused on better software, animations and AI. If you're buying s24 Ultra for camera, you might as well get s23 Ultra that looks even better in different circumstances. I bought s23 Ultra 3 weeks ago and I don't plan on changing it for a long time
The S23 Ultra is the best device Samsung has ever made, and it was always going to be neigh on impossible for the 24U to be noticeably better. Especially camerawise.
@lorenzdaks2213 I don't really think that s22 users have to upgrade, maybe not even s21 users. These are the phones made for a long term use. Fantastic camera, they're really fast and reliable. Once you buy a phone of this calibre, you should use it for at least 3 or 4 years. I remember my father pushing s7 edge to 5 years of use, and eventually, the battery was just shite and he had to change the phone.
@@blaze26700revolutionary?lol all these features were already present on the pixel ,nothing revolutionary,also that is not enough in my opinion to upgrade to this phone .
S23 Ultra hadn't been oversharpening pics like that until some update came and bumped up the sharpening algorithms. Not the one to spread conspiracy theories but it doesn't feel like an accidental choice by Samsung
s23 ultra is better because it has updates but this s24 ultra is still with launch software but it still has some flaws but when the update is released it will improve the cameras but great work... for this comparison
Samsung really needs to implement some jardware changes next year. I mean it makes sense that they want to use economies of scale and milk last years technology. But seeing how most phone companies go for larger sensors its safe to say that both the main and wide-angle lens are in need for an overhaul (and not some Software update that never comes!).
Just want to say I'm a super huge fan of the channel for years. 😊 Great review comparison.. the s24 is just slightly better.. If I had an s23 I would not upgrade.. Too costly But I have an s22 Ultra. Could you do a comparison. Would love that.???
This is what I was waiting for + it will be great to compare when both are on UI 6.1 . Also, it seems S23 Ultra is overall better in 10X and 20X zoom videos, simply because of more capable hardware! However, S24 ultra is great with zoom images - can't say it beats 23 ultra though! But then, S23 Ultra is already optmized. However, while S24 Ultra shall get better, there is further room for optimization in S23 Ultra also like reducing oversharpening etc.
I have the S22 Ultra and like upgrading every other gen. So, do you think you would be able to do an S22 Ultra comparison to the S24 Ultra? I feel like there are probably a lot of people like me out there.
İt seems like Samsung dropped the ball with the S24U. İ suppose they focused on Aİ with this iteration. Thank you Chris for bringing us this wonderful presentation 🎉
Personally I noticed the downgrade in quality from the 50mpx 5x recording 10x or 20x video. As someone who has tested both S22U and S23U I can tell quite easily
Hi! Thanks for great comparison. I have s23 ultra and there is only one thing that really bothers me, and that is shutter lag. Any, even the slightest, movement and photos are practically useless. I tried all settings, and camera assistant app but nothing seems to be working. Is it fixed on s24 ultra?
They have exactly same camera hardware except 5x and 10x zoom lens. A lot of the differences just comes to the software. I would say wait till s23u get the one ui 6.1 update and then test again.
5:55 This shot looks so badly processed by both phones. The 30x zoom isn't this bad when zooming in, especially on the S23 Ultra. Something went wrong with the conditions or you cropped the photo from the 30x original. Also this review is slightly biased towards the S24 Ultra. Objectively, not all results are as you describe them. 6:42 The iron rooflines are better visible on the S23 Ultra. Although not fully, they are much more that on the S24. 6:20 The horizontal lines are again better on the S23 Ultra although the color distortion at light/dark edges on the S23 Ultra is slightly worse. 2:00 Lastly with the seagulls 10x video, we can clearly see that the S23 Ultra manages to capture the detail of the sand, the debris and the seagulls while the s24 Ultra looks over-sharpened possibly to compensate for the lack of detail. The sensor crop doesn't always work that well in video mode. But I know there are many optimizations still to be done on the S24 Ultra and I believe it will improve in the coming months.💪 Good job on the comparison footage though, it was really useful!
The S24 Ultra doesn't seem to be that much different from the S23 Ultra. I'm willing to give the S24 Ultra the benefit of the doubt since it is brand new, so some of the "problems" we're seeing in these images will likely be fixed in future software updates. There are improvements from last year, however, most people won't even notice the difference. I would love to see a camera comparison between the S24 Ultra and the Pixel 8 Pro. I'm curious to see how the two phone stack up.
Good comparison, but this needs to be done again when the S23 Ultra receives One 6.1 and its with the same software as the S24 Ultra. I am sure that 99% of the differwnces will then dissapear.
S23 Ultra definately has a better zoom. S24 Ultra looks oversharpened and more like a painting. What a downgrade. It turns out you can't replace true 10x optical zoom with software.
I think that updating the cameras in the S24 Ultra, like the iPhone 14 Pro, had many problems and its performance was the same as the previous generation 13 Pro, but with the 15 Pro it changed dramatically. Do you expect the problems to be resolved and the cameras to improve significantly with the S25 Ultra? For me, yes, except for night photography, where Samsung was cursed for not fixing its problems with strange colors and noise.
@@arash4448 I solved this issue by reducing the sharpness "Soften the image" by making it medium or high using the Camera Assistant app from the Galaxy Store.
Man, you're fast with these comparisons. Firstly, that 10x optical lens does perform slightly better in daylight in some cases. And I don't know why but these latest Android flagships still blow out the highlights in low-light videos.... especially inside windows, or of street lamps, decoration lights etc unless we get pretty close and then it's optimized. Iphones have been doing HDR way better in low-light videos for ages now. Nonetheless, S24U will get substantially better after updates... typical of Samsung. Cheers 🥂
Samsung is offering £600 for trading, I have a S23 ultra 512GB , not willing to pay extra £600 ...so 50% more money for 10% improvement? Maybe , but the improvement is more like 0.9% and the I.A features will come down to older series ..hun .." fools and horses " Thanks for the review, helped me save hundreds ❤
Samsung have solve some problems with the s24 but give birth some new problems the s23 ultra high lights are more maintained well and the colors also in some cenarious
Good video and great review. I have the S22 Ultra. Do I buy a used S23 Ultra or go for the S24? I do a lot of photography. The step from 3x to 10x is always a problem on previous models so I like the flexibility of the new 5x lens. Perhaps I'll have to see more reviews
There are other great things about S24U. Flat screen! No hassle with weird screen protectors. Better transition between lenses and the duo lens zoom trick. This could be big step up by few updates.
@Ruudwardt That in addition to the S24 giving you about an hour longer battery life (over the S23 Ultra), the ant-reflective/anti-glare screen and increased brightness, as well as the A.I. features. I'm personally upgrading from the S22 Ultra myself. The preorder bonuses were tough to pass on. With my trade in of my S22 Ultra ($650) I only ended up paying $682 (including tax) for a 512 GB S24 Ultra, Galaxy Buds2 Pro, Official Samsung Galaxy Clear Gadget Case, and and a Anti-Reflective Screen Protector.
I agree with many of the comments I've seen here. We just have to wait a bit for the upgrades. Every new phone has bugs to deal with that future updates will eventually address. For me personally, I will upgrade to the 24 Ultra because of the flat screen. That might not be so important for others, but for me, it is. I've carried my S23 Ultra all this time without any protection, because I couldn't find an adequate screen protector due to the curved edges. Now that the S24 will have a flat screen, that's a big plus. Having said all of this, I read somewhere that Samsung is comitted to 7 years of upgrades, and that is awesome news.
S24u must be called s23 ultra+. The only upgrade is the 5x camera sensor and new snapdragon processor. That's great but in my opinion that is not sufficient to name it as new version. I know the new snapdragon has 43% better NPU but s23u has a powerful processor, so it can receive the IA features via software update.
Huh? New SoC is the only indication that a product should be given a new numbered series 😂 new SoC = new socket, new modem, new gpu, new ram & storage capabilities, new camera ISP, new NPU, etc. Now, crapple gave a similar processor (a16) from the previous version and called it new.
@@brosplit tell me, has any game, application or something that consumes these things you described? I only appointed the NPU because is one thing can make some difference in the using of IA.
@@eduardoromao you have weird argument. Do you want a new series using old processors? Also AI is post processing (which also needs a good new NPU), do you want mere post processed photos or actual good dedicated ISP to take pictures? So you want an old release of SoC, old camera hw with good AI in a new series? 😂
@@brosplit you didn't get my point. We have 10 month new version with less new features and upgrades. What I'm saying is the name of this version should be s23u+ because the upgrade didn't significant. Like in the past with the IPhones 4, 4s, 5, 5s... The difference in performance isn't significant because we don't have any app or game that use all the power. The upgrade between the cameras don't be significant like the video show us. The only thing is the introduction of the IA and this is possible in any phone with the minimum hardware requirements. In this case, snapdragon 8 gen 2 is very competent handle AI without any problem. In this specific point (for AI) the new snapdragon has 41 or 43% more performance in NPU. But what is the real difference in AI operations? 1 second more? 10 second more? I really don't know...
Great comparison. Was planning to buy the S24 Ultra, but won't do that after seeing the latest videos. There's hardly any improvement over the S23, and I couldn't care less about the gimicky AI stuff. S23 owners can relax :)
In the first 3 minutes, the thing i can clearly notice here, is that Galaxy 23 Ultra audio is way crispier and better! The Galaxy 24 Ultra audio sounds more muffled and you can hear the wind noise more. Tell me I don't have ears problems, please? 😅 But It could be due to the early version of the firmware... Thank for you great camera comparison, Chris!
S24U 10x definitely looks a little shakey. Hope the software can make fix that. I'm sure the practicality of a 5x is more than that of the 10x but i would hate to see regression.
As an S23 Ultra owner I have to be honest here and say that the increased flexibility and 50Mp sensor on the new 5x zoom system are useful, and in no way should it be looked upon as a big step backwards. Samsung calls it's 10x zoom preset on the 24U Optical Quality Zoom, but it is still a a hybrid zoom. And 10x optical zoom will always have advantages over 10x hybrid.
The 100x zoom with sailboat is not a good comparison since the sail was clearly blurred. Otherwise a good video and I appreciate the time you took to compare the two phones.
Nothing changes :))) 10x zoom at S23U better than 10x crop from 5x on S24U and i dont have any reason to upgrade, 2600 nits brightness? I dont think so. I think S23U enough for me.
if you would have to decide between the S23 Ultra and the S24 Ultra which would you buy? Currently i run an old samsung but i need to upgrade. Camera quality is the only thing which matters for me, since im a content creator.
Excellent contrast video... which has persuaded me to stick with the S23 Ultra for another year! I nearly pulled the trigger as Samsung is offering a £600 trade in AND a double memory offer, but even with that it's not quite worth the move. Looking forward to the S25 Ultra!
One more question: have you noticed the shutter lag being improved with the new s24u ? The s23u struggles a lot in low light to take pictures of moving objects (animals, kids etc). Cheers!
Samsung is adopting a strategy similar to Apple's, where the pace of innovation is currently quite measured. In order to market a new phone annually, the company subtly influences consumer choices by introducing minor enhancements in each model. Each subsequent release offers marginal improvements, leaving it up to the consumer to decide whether to upgrade their phone every year, biennially, or perhaps every five years. The S24 Ultra is a commendable contemporary smartphone; consider purchasing it if it's within your budget.
When you zoom on 10x or above the S23 Ultra is clear winner, especially the beach. The ML doesn't know what to do wit those pixels and is simply trying to multiply them randomly which leads to water painting effect. Awful. However, the microphones on the S24IU are much better. Better even than the iPhone 15 pro max... wow!
01:43 The flickering lights there is the reason why Samsung needs to include ability to record 25 fps. Right now it seems long zoom has jitter in video so that's a no-go instantly. Hopefully the high megapixel count for the telephoto lens will push Apple to release something similar, because right now the video quality of 2x - 5x with iPhone 15 Pro is not good right now.
You have a very discerning eye, and may I suggest you may be better off looking for a quality camera to give you the results you crave. Mobile devices are too restricted in terms of sensor size and the like. Don't get me wrong though, because as portable pocket sized devices they are incredible.
@@neilmcguinness4422 The jitter effect will be more obvious with longer clips and will be very distracting. Used in short clips, such as in this video, it's still kinda alright. Even iPhone video performs better but it still will suffer from such issues under certain situations. Of course for taking photos, none of these will matter.
Thanks for the video: I have a question: How have you found the signal strength for the S24U, compared to other phones, if you had a chance to test it?
Might sound ridiculous but could you do (even if short) a comparison with the s22U . Many of us are upgrading from the S22 and would like to see the difference we'll get. Thanks!
Pre-ordered S24 Ultra. I hope they could tweak some changes in the next update. One UI 6.1 is good yet too early because of the camera performance because of the 50MP Telephoto Lens.
I would love to see S24 Ultra replace the 3x with a bigger sensor while maintaining the 10x lens for the bragging right for the best zoom cam. Sadly they chose the other ways.
Thanks for sharing this comparison. Would you mind testing the time for the shutter to focus and take a shot with fast moving pets or kids? The S23 Ultra was really slow with this, often missing shots.
Also please try to add these tests if possible: Zoom comparison at 10, 30, 50 and 100x for humans, objects and text 200MP photo then and pixel peeping to see finer detail quality Video comparison at 10x 20x zoom 50MP photo pixel peeping Slow mo Low light tests - 200MP, slow-mo
This video is pointless, the software of s24 series isn't finished yet and these phones ytbers have aren't the finished product, the finished product will release in the market with different software at January 31, then we can compare...
I have S23ultra. After seeing this comparison, I can satisfy myself that, I do not need to upgrade S24ultra.
Same here
Same here
You would be a fool lol, the difference is usually noticeable after two generations, changing phone every year is just stupid, and I bet you don't make daily 1K£ like I do, but I guess poor people at least can show up with brand new phone 😂
@@ThereIsOnlyOneRandomim going up from the s22 ultra (exynoss) do you think its worth it?
No. I played with all 3 of the new s24 models, and if your s22 feels fast enough (it should, as my s21 Exynos still feels fast) and you can play the games you want, then no. I also went into developer options and set window animations, transition animations and animator to .5 instead of 1. Amazing how much of a difference in everyday use. The new s24 AI felt like a gimmick, isn't going to be useful most of the time, and doesn't accomplish much other phones have the power to do once they open the software to it on older and lower models. I liked the idea of offering suggestions for text rewrites, but the rest? Nah. The only exception being a more instantaneous response. And I am someone who uses Google Translate on my s21 every day, here in Asia.@@jexter0
Am I the only one who thinks that the S23U is consistently better across the tests? The gap is really really small but I feel the S24U suffers from unoptimised software at the moment.
Yes the S24U does and needs a camera update.
It was the same thing when the S23 ultra came up against the S22 Ultra at launch, give it a few months
Yup when s23 ultra came s22 ultra beat it now look at both same thing 2 updates later s24 ultra will kick s23 ultra ass as s23 ultra kicked s22 ultra ass s22 plus user
Same - S23U clearly seems better as far as cameras are concerned!
@@Techtabletswhat about shutter lag?
Finally the first real camera comparison of these two phones. 👌
Thanks :)
@@Techtablets I know this is a big ask but, could you do a S22 Ultra vs S24 Ultra comparison? No need for an in depth comparison, just a quick take on overall speed, photos and videos.
My guess is that I should still wait for the S25 Ultra(?)
Yea but i see no difference but some worse in s24 ultra
abd supersaf 😂 good compare boss ❤
no major difference between cameras
In my opinion changing S23U to S24U makes no sense
In my opinion, thinking about Changing S23 over S24 doesn't even make sense.
People said the same thing about the s22 ultra to the s23 but in this case the upgrade is more significant, last years upgrade was pointless
Full agreed. Most difference was s22ultra vs s23ultra. New ufs 4.0, most natural screen calibration, (i know you can adb use development and changing) soo much better speakers, efficient of 8gen2 battery its crazy. But after 442 charging actually my s23u has 4070mah. Was sot 10.5-11h now; 7.5-8.5max.. 😢 verry bad quality battery. And dont use hard aps. Yt, light aps, only 4g, and s23ultra new front camera better. And s24u should be lighter than s23u and its joke. 1g lighter.😂😂 234vs233😂 crazy... Frame TITANIUM CHINESE.😂
@@mac8669 quite the contrary lmao wtf
@@furieux6742 Chinese 💀
I don't see any reason to upgrade my S23U. There is not that much difference to upgrade. Probably the IA functions also will come to the S23U so it will still getting better and better🥰 Very good review👍
Independent adjuster moment
Remember that on Samsungs fine print, they mention that the will be charging a fee for the use of their AI sometime in 2025
Same here. Even considering that the AI features or Galaxy AI that is currently exclusive to s24 U will be coming to our devices sometime next quarter. I even advised my brother to buy a brand new s23 ultra as his android device as it is disgustingly cheap at the moment.
Won't come if the feature is hardware based but the cloud based one will come
S23 is way better than 24!!!!!.. not even Close! Disappointed.
Really just shows how much optimisation matters, the s24 needs some of that, im gonna be getting it in march
probably gonna be like 20% cheaper too knowing samsung lol
@@asht5905with all the preorder stuff I got my S24 Plus 512 gb with free watch 6 around 120€ cheaper than the cheapest S23+ I could get in germany. This time it will take a longer time to get them cheaper than right now
It won't. Adding sharpness is not a major change.
Save and get the s23 ultra on discount
My observation of the video quality is that S23 zoom is better than S24.
Set this video to 4K, full screen, pause it at 1:18. Look at the text on the black sign. You can (just barely) read the website and the phone number on S23, but on S24 it's impossible.
Granted, image quality is not just the pixel count, it is however an important aspect.
Not a necessarily notable thing but a difference nonetheless. Overall the S24 Ultra looks better there (to me) but you can definitely see the advantage of optical with minor details.
I agree. 5:49 the difference is clear as day
Nope. Just looks like paused at unfortunate timing. Just watch those small light decorations. You can see them properly on s24 but blurry on s23.
thats because the S23 is on the right side of the camera holder and the 24 is on the left side making it easier to see for the 23
@@OhTempest_ just stick to making Fortnite videos...
Fabulous, thanks. This is like one of those Audiophile tests where you're trying to convince yourself that the expensive new Hi-fi sounds better. Maybe, in a silent room but otherwise you're never going to notice: As an old, professional, technical photographer I discovered a long time ago that you can burn a lot of cash trying to improve on lens designs from years ago: it looks like the remarkable phone optics have now reached some sort of plateau. I have been waiting to see what the S24 offered, but IMHO the discounted S23 makes WAY more sense. The rarely mentioned Ai subscription model that they're trying to roll out globally is best avoided as long as possible too!
JM
Amen, Brother
10x is MUCH better on the old one, but the 5x is more usable focal length
3:06 10x is clearly better on the s24 more natural & sharper on launch. with updates it will get better in every aspect. s23 at launch had its own issues & got better overtime
@@OttomanKayiGazi In poor light, yes. The 23U has worse aperture on the lens and has to increase the ISO for the same light level. Let it be 1:57 there is plenty of light. The image of the 23U is significantly better and with the 24U you can see that the same "focus" is made by cropping and sharpening. 23U looks much more natural.
@@OttomanKayiGazi5:50 the difference is clear as day
yeah, we can see better detail in video mode with 10x. On the S24 it looks more artificial@@radimhorakfoto
I can get the same quality using Expert Raw on my s23u. So no reason to upgrade to s24u. But the s25U would be dope. Cant wait for the 1" 200mp sensor @@OttomanKayiGazi
I'm a Samsung fan, but I think that today, we have to admit that Samsung is really purposely staying in excessive oversaturation and unnecessary overexposure in photo-video 🤦🏽♂️
Samsung should genuinely think about adding a realistic color profile to its photo app for photography, or allowing users to have something like the ''Photographic Style'' of iPhones, to allow us Galaxy users who can't stand oversaturation and excessive overexposure to adjust that.
Ps: don't tell me about the Pro mode (I've known and used it for years), I ask to have this in automatic mode, not everyone is (certainly not) a professional photographer, but would like to have the possibility to make some quick adjustments to their liking.
Finally a sensible Android fan🙌🏼
Well put, agreed on all points.
With S23U after all the updates, I still take photos with Expert Raw and edit in Lightroom. Sad, but with the AI era this procedure should belong to museum and history.
S24 feels more like an Software Update which bright more AI features , except the built, rather than an actual upgrade
I would also want to put the sharpening a bit less aggressive
@JKS-qw6fd you only think he's sensible because he says what you believe
Disappointed that Sammy STILL hasn't tamed that 200MP sensor
Tamed as in take advantage of it? If u mean for them to stop doing it you're our luck. Samsung is trying to go higher every few models untill we reach a 600MP camera.
I love the idea but don't like Samsung not utilizing the 200mp since last year. Will do tests this year with the new S24 Ultra.
People who call Samsung, Sammy, make me cringe
@@ItsMido84 you can cringe all you want, boy, nobody cares. I'll call Samsung "Sammy" because it's shorter to type and I like it. Suck it
Shows that ai software can't move ahead of hardware innovations they could have atleast put an 1 inch sensor on the 200mp
S23 ultra is still killing.
W 23ULTRA is better
And iphone 15 pm killing them both
@@vikinnorway6725 Not hardly.
@@vikinnorway6725Iphones use Samsung parts 🤡
Sadly yes 😐
now THIS is what we've been waiting for!
I don't agree with most of your conclusions though, in most cases I prefer S23U, which is quite a good news for the budget.
Only concrete difference is reduced sharpening, but an average user might even prefer sharpening.
Overshapening is bad and it can ruin a photo in a lot of ways
I actually like the curved display on the S23u vs. S24u flat. It's like a modern "infinity pool" looking effect.
Flat display is cheaper in production
@@BaSiC47and stronger
Flat is better. You can buy a curved led tv or something but on a Mobile Phone i think dont need it. Sorry for my english
It's funny, I hate the curved display. The Note 20 and S23 Ultra are the only screens that ever broke on ne and it wad from drops of about 6 inches with screen protectors and cases.
@@rarelyaccurate6252 My iPhone SE with flat screen broke while my S21 Ultra with curved screen is fine. Does it make curved better?
I was waiting for this comparison. Thank you, Chris!
No problem!
Thanks to the improved updates that the S23 ultra received, it is now better than when it was released in terms of the camera. We also hope that they will accelerate the updates.
im happy with my S23 Ultra, there is nothing big to upgrade to S24 ultra 😂
Why would you even consider upgrading one year after? Makes no sense 😆
6:32 A LOT OF NOISE for s24 ultra vs s23 ultra, there are a LOT OF TIMES were de s23 ultra is SO MUCH better.
I will say that when I heard that Samsung was dropping the 10x camera, I had kind of written this phone off, but I'm glad to see that the 10x shots with the 5x camera are at least comparable. Still, I have concerns at the more extreme ranges. On my S22 Ultra, I often zoomed into shots of wildlife because I couldn't get close and at 20x and 30x, those shots were still useable.
This is what I was worried about too. How's the low-light photos/videos on the 10x lens?
It's a 50MP vs the meager 10MP. There's nothing to worry about.
Some people are hoping for software updates to improve the 24U. God, the S23U has the same sensor and is already updated for a year now, it's the same sensor on the 24U. It's not like Samsung is using a much larger sensor or the native pixel size is bigger.... it's the same sensor.
I've pre ordered the s24 ultra and I'm already regretting it.. I've seen a few camera comparisons and s24 ultra doesn't seem to impress too much.
For example look at this comparison. The fact I have to pixel peep just to see a difference is not good. A whole year and new phone and I have to squint my eyes and look just to see a change means the changes are very little. I'm not happy
Just cancel the order then and get a S23U or wait another year.
The upgrade was mainly the chipset. If it didn't break the bank who cares lol
@@dasunikat1534wait what you clearly didn't read what he said
You can never expect a change in only one year as only a fool does
@@dasunikat1534why tf will he do that so he will order a slightly worse one cause it's not a big change from last year...wow real smart
So Samsung didn't really focus on huge camera improvements, considering I can barely see any. They were much more focused on better software, animations and AI. If you're buying s24 Ultra for camera, you might as well get s23 Ultra that looks even better in different circumstances. I bought s23 Ultra 3 weeks ago and I don't plan on changing it for a long time
The S23 Ultra is the best device Samsung has ever made, and it was always going to be neigh on impossible for the 24U to be noticeably better. Especially camerawise.
The S24 trio is a worthy upgrade for S22 users but not S23 users
@lorenzdaks2213 I don't really think that s22 users have to upgrade, maybe not even s21 users. These are the phones made for a long term use. Fantastic camera, they're really fast and reliable. Once you buy a phone of this calibre, you should use it for at least 3 or 4 years. I remember my father pushing s7 edge to 5 years of use, and eventually, the battery was just shite and he had to change the phone.
another great comparison, unfortunately for Samsung there's not much with S24 Ultra to be excited about
You're forgetting about the revolutionary AI technology in S24 series.
With that you don't need any Translator and can Order Pizza in any country.
@blaze26700 which most, if not all of those will probably land on the s23 and s22 ultra eventually.
Its just AI that will be patched in s23 aswell@@blaze26700
@@de-luxe491 good for you, now all the Samsung users will be able to order pizza in different countries.
@@blaze26700revolutionary?lol all these features were already present on the pixel ,nothing revolutionary,also that is not enough in my opinion to upgrade to this phone .
S23 Ultra hadn't been oversharpening pics like that until some update came and bumped up the sharpening algorithms. Not the one to spread conspiracy theories but it doesn't feel like an accidental choice by Samsung
We appreciate your reviews. Keep working hard.
Thanks, will do!
s23 ultra is better because it has updates but this s24 ultra is still with launch software but it still has some flaws but when the update is released it will improve the cameras but great work... for this comparison
Yes it should improve notably as Samsung camera based improvement updates are normally very good indeed.
What updates? The 24U has the same sensor. The updates are supposed to be there already.
s24 ultra still has launch software but when it is released on the 29th the update will improve the cameras@@DeepteshLovesTECH
Wait for samsung to nerf s23ultra to look s24ultra is far more superior hahahaha
It will not happen @@QiasZ6Tv
Samsung really needs to implement some jardware changes next year.
I mean it makes sense that they want to use economies of scale and milk last years technology.
But seeing how most phone companies go for larger sensors its safe to say that both the main and wide-angle lens are in need for an overhaul (and not some Software update that never comes!).
Just want to say I'm a super huge fan of the channel for years. 😊
Great review comparison.. the s24 is just slightly better.. If I had an s23 I would not upgrade.. Too costly
But I have an s22 Ultra. Could you do a comparison. Would love that.???
I sold my S22 Ultra sorry so no chance of that comparison. hey and thanks for the support over the years!
It will still be almost the same experience, just wait for something really new, mby s25u will bring that.
This is what I was waiting for + it will be great to compare when both are on UI 6.1 . Also, it seems S23 Ultra is overall better in 10X and 20X zoom videos, simply because of more capable hardware! However, S24 ultra is great with zoom images - can't say it beats 23 ultra though! But then, S23 Ultra is already optmized. However, while S24 Ultra shall get better, there is further room for optimization in S23 Ultra also like reducing oversharpening etc.
I have the S22 Ultra and like upgrading every other gen. So, do you think you would be able to do an S22 Ultra comparison to the S24 Ultra? I feel like there are probably a lot of people like me out there.
İt seems like Samsung dropped the ball with the S24U. İ suppose they focused on Aİ with this iteration.
Thank you Chris for bringing us this wonderful presentation 🎉
In a few weeks, S24U will be so much better , i can't wait 😆 i tested it yesterday, and it was so much better than my S22U!
Personally I noticed the downgrade in quality from the 50mpx 5x recording 10x or 20x video. As someone who has tested both S22U and S23U I can tell quite easily
Hi! Thanks for great comparison.
I have s23 ultra and there is only one thing that really bothers me, and that is shutter lag. Any, even the slightest, movement and photos are practically useless. I tried all settings, and camera assistant app but nothing seems to be working.
Is it fixed on s24 ultra?
Nice review. They already communicated that a update will follow next week.
Nice vid. Was kinda hoping to see what 8K comparison would be. I usually film in 8K then downscale to 4K for extra crispy vids.
For me s23 performs better in every field compared to s24
They have exactly same camera hardware except 5x and 10x zoom lens. A lot of the differences just comes to the software. I would say wait till s23u get the one ui 6.1 update and then test again.
Why I have the feeling that they will downgrade it slightly with 6.1 for 23u
@@danniel7480 Well that's possible especially for the 10x len. They need to make the 5x len on s24u look better than 10x on s23u.
Wait for samsung to nerf s23ultra to look s24ultra is far more superior hahahaha
I like the curved screen on my s23, never had a problem with accident presses or content distortion. Looks unique and futuristic to me
5:55 This shot looks so badly processed by both phones. The 30x zoom isn't this bad when zooming in, especially on the S23 Ultra. Something went wrong with the conditions or you cropped the photo from the 30x original.
Also this review is slightly biased towards the S24 Ultra. Objectively, not all results are as you describe them.
6:42 The iron rooflines are better visible on the S23 Ultra. Although not fully, they are much more that on the S24.
6:20 The horizontal lines are again better on the S23 Ultra although the color distortion at light/dark edges on the S23 Ultra is slightly worse.
2:00 Lastly with the seagulls 10x video, we can clearly see that the S23 Ultra manages to capture the detail of the sand, the debris and the seagulls while the s24 Ultra looks over-sharpened possibly to compensate for the lack of detail. The sensor crop doesn't always work that well in video mode.
But I know there are many optimizations still to be done on the S24 Ultra and I believe it will improve in the coming months.💪
Good job on the comparison footage though, it was really useful!
All of the 10x Zoom videos looking better on the S23 Ultra - much better stabilization.
S23 is way better than 24!!!!!.. not even Close! Disappointed.
@@flickdrumming1746what kind of depressing shit are you on
The S24 Ultra doesn't seem to be that much different from the S23 Ultra. I'm willing to give the S24 Ultra the benefit of the doubt since it is brand new, so some of the "problems" we're seeing in these images will likely be fixed in future software updates. There are improvements from last year, however, most people won't even notice the difference. I would love to see a camera comparison between the S24 Ultra and the Pixel 8 Pro. I'm curious to see how the two phone stack up.
Good comparison, but this needs to be done again when the S23 Ultra receives One 6.1 and its with the same software as the S24 Ultra. I am sure that 99% of the differwnces will then dissapear.
The difference disappear or not?
S23 Ultra definately has a better zoom. S24 Ultra looks oversharpened and more like a painting. What a downgrade. It turns out you can't replace true 10x optical zoom with software.
I think that updating the cameras in the S24 Ultra, like the iPhone 14 Pro, had many problems and its performance was the same as the previous generation 13 Pro, but with the 15 Pro it changed dramatically.
Do you expect the problems to be resolved and the cameras to improve significantly with the S25 Ultra? For me, yes, except for night photography, where Samsung was cursed for not fixing its problems with strange colors and noise.
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This is the same camera as last year .
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I solved this issue by reducing the sharpness "Soften the image" by making it medium or high using the Camera Assistant app from the Galaxy Store.
Man, you're fast with these comparisons.
Firstly, that 10x optical lens does perform slightly better in daylight in some cases.
And I don't know why but these latest Android flagships still blow out the highlights in low-light videos.... especially inside windows, or of street lamps, decoration lights etc unless we get pretty close and then it's optimized.
Iphones have been doing HDR way better in low-light videos for ages now. Nonetheless, S24U will get substantially better after updates... typical of Samsung.
Cheers 🥂
Samsung is offering £600 for trading, I have a S23 ultra 512GB , not willing to pay extra £600 ...so 50% more money for 10% improvement? Maybe , but the improvement is more like 0.9% and the I.A features will come down to older series ..hun .." fools and horses "
Thanks for the review, helped me save hundreds ❤
S24 have worse DR than S23 in night shots
I don’t see a big upgrade with s23 ultra… a bit disappointed by all those new camera phone…
About 7:15. You can do additional stabilization in the editor. But you can't get new details in the editor.
I really can’t tell the difference but it’s going head on to IPhone 15 Pro
Nike joke 🤣
Samsung have solve some problems with the s24 but give birth some new problems the s23 ultra high lights are more maintained well and the colors also in some cenarious
Good video and great review. I have the S22 Ultra. Do I buy a used S23 Ultra or go for the S24? I do a lot of photography. The step from 3x to 10x is always a problem on previous models so I like the flexibility of the new 5x lens. Perhaps I'll have to see more reviews
Don't make a snap decision. Watch as many reviews as you can.
Ifyou plan on keeping it a long time, the 7 year updates will make the 24 worth it
There are other great things about S24U.
Flat screen! No hassle with weird screen protectors.
Better transition between lenses and the duo lens zoom trick. This could be big step up by few updates.
@Ruudwardt That in addition to the S24 giving you about an hour longer battery life (over the S23 Ultra), the ant-reflective/anti-glare screen and increased brightness, as well as the A.I. features. I'm personally upgrading from the S22 Ultra myself. The preorder bonuses were tough to pass on. With my trade in of my S22 Ultra ($650) I only ended up paying $682 (including tax) for a 512 GB S24 Ultra, Galaxy Buds2 Pro, Official Samsung Galaxy Clear Gadget Case, and and a Anti-Reflective Screen Protector.
The over sharpening on either phone is a software fix. No need to upgrade.
In many of the tests, I think the s23u did better, but that is subjective.
Videos aren't VERY VERY SIMILAR as you assessed.. Clouds are not well-defined in 24 ultra!!!
Also, there are highlights clipping issue with 24 ultra!
If it was Xiaomi ultra phone, you shall definitely bash it.. just because Xiaomi no more sends you free phone and Samsung did!
I agree with many of the comments I've seen here. We just have to wait a bit for the upgrades. Every new phone has bugs to deal with that future updates will eventually address. For me personally, I will upgrade to the 24 Ultra because of the flat screen. That might not be so important for others, but for me, it is. I've carried my S23 Ultra all this time without any protection, because I couldn't find an adequate screen protector due to the curved edges. Now that the S24 will have a flat screen, that's a big plus. Having said all of this, I read somewhere that Samsung is comitted to 7 years of upgrades, and that is awesome news.
S24u must be called s23 ultra+. The only upgrade is the 5x camera sensor and new snapdragon processor. That's great but in my opinion that is not sufficient to name it as new version.
I know the new snapdragon has 43% better NPU but s23u has a powerful processor, so it can receive the IA features via software update.
Huh? New SoC is the only indication that a product should be given a new numbered series 😂 new SoC = new socket, new modem, new gpu, new ram & storage capabilities, new camera ISP, new NPU, etc. Now, crapple gave a similar processor (a16) from the previous version and called it new.
@@brosplit tell me, has any game, application or something that consumes these things you described?
I only appointed the NPU because is one thing can make some difference in the using of IA.
@@eduardoromao you have weird argument. Do you want a new series using old processors? Also AI is post processing (which also needs a good new NPU), do you want mere post processed photos or actual good dedicated ISP to take pictures? So you want an old release of SoC, old camera hw with good AI in a new series? 😂
@@brosplit you didn't get my point. We have 10 month new version with less new features and upgrades. What I'm saying is the name of this version should be s23u+ because the upgrade didn't significant. Like in the past with the IPhones 4, 4s, 5, 5s...
The difference in performance isn't significant because we don't have any app or game that use all the power. The upgrade between the cameras don't be significant like the video show us.
The only thing is the introduction of the IA and this is possible in any phone with the minimum hardware requirements. In this case, snapdragon 8 gen 2 is very competent handle AI without any problem.
In this specific point (for AI) the new snapdragon has 41 or 43% more performance in NPU. But what is the real difference in AI operations? 1 second more? 10 second more?
I really don't know...
Great comparison. Was planning to buy the S24 Ultra, but won't do that after seeing the latest videos. There's hardly any improvement over the S23, and I couldn't care less about the gimicky AI stuff. S23 owners can relax :)
The S24 Ultra in video on 20x zoom looks like a painting
In the first 3 minutes, the thing i can clearly notice here, is that Galaxy 23 Ultra audio is way crispier and better! The Galaxy 24 Ultra audio sounds more muffled and you can hear the wind noise more. Tell me I don't have ears problems, please? 😅 But It could be due to the early version of the firmware... Thank for you great camera comparison, Chris!
@1:05 that dude was like "wtf"😂
He was yes 😂😂
@@Techtabletswhen doing these tests do people ever approach you?
S23 Ultra looks better... CMIIW
até que fim um comparativo que muitos esperavam.
Tenho um s22 e não tenho a mínima ideia ainda pra qual eu posso mudar
Na vivo trocando meu celular o s24u ficou basicamente o mesmo valor que o s23u
Please add camera responsive performance comparison in future. What needs to be improved is how slow the camera responses.
S24U 10x definitely looks a little shakey. Hope the software can make fix that. I'm sure the practicality of a 5x is more than that of the 10x but i would hate to see regression.
Yes the 10x S23U seems to have better OIS/EIS but might just need updates (which it does for all the cameras)
As an S23 Ultra owner I have to be honest here and say that the increased flexibility and 50Mp sensor on the new 5x zoom system are useful, and in no way should it be looked upon as a big step backwards. Samsung calls it's 10x zoom preset on the 24U Optical Quality Zoom, but it is still a a hybrid zoom. And 10x optical zoom will always have advantages over 10x hybrid.
The 100x zoom with sailboat is not a good comparison since the sail was clearly blurred. Otherwise a good video and I appreciate the time you took to compare the two phones.
Nothing changes :))) 10x zoom at S23U better than 10x crop from 5x on S24U and i dont have any reason to upgrade, 2600 nits brightness? I dont think so. I think S23U enough for me.
Main difference is probably the sharpening algorithm, minor improvement in tele and tiny improvement in low light.
You can easily switch off sharpening in camera assistant settings, change it to medium, and will be the same like in s24u
1:27 🇮🇳❤
Yes 😊
if you would have to decide between the S23 Ultra and the S24 Ultra which would you buy? Currently i run an old samsung but i need to upgrade. Camera quality is the only thing which matters for me, since im a content creator.
Waiting for the Vivo X100 Pro Vs Samsung Galaxy S24 Ultra comparison 😅
Hmm maybe coming. I'm so busy right now lol.
I'm waiting for this one also .If the vivo beats it, Im going to buy the Vivo over the Samsung .
What happens if they do the update to deliberately reduce the quality of the previous phone just to make the new phone camera look better 😢
Compare it again after a software update
Sure I will keep this phone and make camera comparisons throughout the year
Happy and satified for my long term phone S23 ultra
same
Early reviews suggest the S24 Ultra needs software updates. Bit rough out of the box
That's correct
I noticed something weird that the store demo units have more optimized software than the review units sent to youtubers. Pretty weird
Would you mind doing a revisit to this comparison after updates?
Excellent contrast video... which has persuaded me to stick with the S23 Ultra for another year!
I nearly pulled the trigger as Samsung is offering a £600 trade in AND a double memory offer, but even with that it's not quite worth the move.
Looking forward to the S25 Ultra!
AHHH FINALLY THANK YOU SOOOO MUCH 😭
Thanks for watching!
One more question: have you noticed the shutter lag being improved with the new s24u ?
The s23u struggles a lot in low light to take pictures of moving objects (animals, kids etc).
Cheers!
Marginally better this is why I took photos of the moving seagulls to check that.
@@Techtablets thanks Chris, always appreciate your fast response! Cheers from Taiwan 🇹🇼
Samsung is adopting a strategy similar to Apple's, where the pace of innovation is currently quite measured. In order to market a new phone annually, the company subtly influences consumer choices by introducing minor enhancements in each model. Each subsequent release offers marginal improvements, leaving it up to the consumer to decide whether to upgrade their phone every year, biennially, or perhaps every five years. The S24 Ultra is a commendable contemporary smartphone; consider purchasing it if it's within your budget.
Thats what I was expecting from Samsung.
Videos are better exposed and less sharpened ! Kudos ❤
Terrible video stabilization on the S24 Ultra! The image warps like Jello in many cases which makes it impossible to fix even in post-production...
When you zoom on 10x or above the S23 Ultra is clear winner, especially the beach. The ML doesn't know what to do wit those pixels and is simply trying to multiply them randomly which leads to water painting effect. Awful.
However, the microphones on the S24IU are much better. Better even than the iPhone 15 pro max... wow!
01:43 The flickering lights there is the reason why Samsung needs to include ability to record 25 fps.
Right now it seems long zoom has jitter in video so that's a no-go instantly.
Hopefully the high megapixel count for the telephoto lens will push Apple to release something similar, because right now the video quality of 2x - 5x with iPhone 15 Pro is not good right now.
You have a very discerning eye, and may I suggest you may be better off looking for a quality camera to give you the results you crave. Mobile devices are too restricted in terms of sensor size and the like. Don't get me wrong though, because as portable pocket sized devices they are incredible.
@@neilmcguinness4422 The jitter effect will be more obvious with longer clips and will be very distracting. Used in short clips, such as in this video, it's still kinda alright. Even iPhone video performs better but it still will suffer from such issues under certain situations. Of course for taking photos, none of these will matter.
Refreshing to see an individual speaking the truth about the S24 Ultra, rather than echoing the same opinions as every other reviewer.
Indeed, we have to wait another generation to get another leap in performance like the 200mp camera from the S23. Which is still awesome
Thanks for the video: I have a question: How have you found the signal strength for the S24U, compared to other phones, if you had a chance to test it?
I suggest turning Scene Optimizer off, if you have it on of course. Pictures looks better without over saturating
it is nice to see that s24 Ultra video is less saturated by default. Any chance to compare it with Xperia 1 V ? that would be interesting comparison.
I don't have the Xoeria sorry. But soon the Find X7 Ultra and X100 Pro Vs S24U
Might sound ridiculous but could you do (even if short) a comparison with the s22U . Many of us are upgrading from the S22 and would like to see the difference we'll get. Thanks!
would any of this change with software updates on the s24 side?
Pre-ordered S24 Ultra. I hope they could tweak some changes in the next update. One UI 6.1 is good yet too early because of the camera performance because of the 50MP Telephoto Lens.
People forget that Samsung releases day 1 firmware updates once it releases to the public
I would love to see S24 Ultra replace the 3x with a bigger sensor while maintaining the 10x lens for the bragging right for the best zoom cam. Sadly they chose the other ways.
Thanks for sharing this comparison. Would you mind testing the time for the shutter to focus and take a shot with fast moving pets or kids? The S23 Ultra was really slow with this, often missing shots.
Also please try to add these tests if possible:
Zoom comparison at 10, 30, 50 and 100x for humans, objects and text
200MP photo then and pixel peeping to see finer detail quality
Video comparison at 10x 20x zoom
50MP photo pixel peeping
Slow mo
Low light tests - 200MP, slow-mo
Is there typo or what ? You said watch it in 4k60 but you only uploaded in 30??
Thank you for the video. I wasn't expecting the devices to be so close.
Please compare VIVO X100Pro vs Samsung S24 Ultra.
I bought the s24, it arrives at the end of the month, after watching this video I will definitely cancel the purchase, it is not worth the change.
This video is pointless, the software of s24 series isn't finished yet and these phones ytbers have aren't the finished product, the finished product will release in the market with different software at January 31, then we can compare...