Thank Ian , for some definite food for thoughts on the internal rack width’ , was thinking 120 - but now may rethink and consider 130 , thanks again for the excellent videos on the Jasper stands 👍
Thank you. Yes, I sort of wish I'd got a wider one but practically it would have been just a little too wide for comfort. But do your sums if you've got the space 😊
I'd be interested to know your thoughts about what I think are a few design flaws with Jaspers. 1. No indentation groove along the horizontal tubes for the arm mounts to key into. 2 No "key" in an end collar of the horizontal tubes to key into a T piece on the upright tubes. 3. Arm inserted end pieces can loosen. Any of these can result in synths falling off and people have suffered this. Take a look at the On-Stage A Frames. I owned one 30+ years ago (EXACT same stand but difference brand name). It solves all of these problems.
Hi David - yes, all good points. I guess the reasoning behind not including lock-in grooves is that you can adjust the parts to any position. Grooves might limit the options. I don't know how fussy folks are about these things. As I mentioned in the review video, you need to keep tightening the attachments every so often until you're happy they are solid. Initially had an arm collapse because I wasn't sure how much to tighten everything 😢 Mine has been up since the review and it's OK so far 😊
Thank you. So glad you found it useful 👍 If you are considering a Jaspers stand - recommended - you might find this useuful, too: ua-cam.com/video/XNIxJ2i9Goo/v-deo.html
Hey Ian, do you happen to know the lowest possible height of the lowest tier for your 4R? I'm interested in the 4r-120b, but am unsure how much possible space you can get between each tier.
Hi - It'll be approx. 21", the arms would be on top and the synth on the arms. I left mine at the default height which is about 6" higher which, for me, is a playable height.
@@mwmusic29 Ha! Ha! I didn't want to get into specifics about my setup, it was just to get people to check their gear and potential gear, especially if they have limited space. My two arrived yesterday and I've have been fiddling with the stand and my desk space to fit them in, Think I need a desktop stand 😁 Got a System 8 and a Poly D.
Initially I was going to get the 120 but since I only have space for a computer desk and one rack in my studio, I decided to go for the 150, with the optional 19 inch rack below the first tier, which is 160 externally and is the largest rack I can fit in the space I have. This way I’ll have space for at least 4 more modules/drum machines. It’s important for me to optimize the rack space because once it’s full, any new equipment that gets in mean that something of equal or higher size must come out. The downside is that now that I have a rack that is a third full, I’ll be more vulnerable to gear acquisition syndrome.
@@Pintosonic Excellent! I would have loved a wider rack but... Sounds like you're making the most of the space you have which is the best we can do. We're all susceptible to G.A.S. no matter how much or how little space we have 😀
Alright, silly question time. What keeps the arms from tilting downward and dropping a keyboard off the front? What I mean is that the inside of the clamps look like smooth metal. I'm not sure how it would get a good hold on the smooth metal support bar to the extent that it wouldn't slowly tilt further and further down. Can you straighten me out on this?
Hey Matt - Not at all silly. In fact, all the joints and connectors grab onto the smooth poles. Essentially, the clamps simply tighten around the pole 😊 As an example, if you grasped a beer can very tightly, it would require an aweful lot of force to make it twist inside your grip - well, certainly in my case 😀 Most clamps tighten in two places. As explained in my previous video review of the Jaspers stand, you do need to tighten the cclamps sufficiently and, over the next few weekscheck them every few days and then check them every few weeks. I've just checked them again now and a few clamps tightened by a very small amount but even without tightening they were in no danger of slipping. I did put some weight on the arms to check your specific question and they were rock solid. The horizontal poles are also locked by a key groove (explained in other video) which makes them very secure. However, the bottom line is simply that you need to tightened them sufficiently - more than 'hand tight' but not too tight 😀 I suspect problems could arise if you are constantly dismantling and reassembling a stand but for static use they should be solid. Hope that helped 😀
@@IanWaugh Perfect explanation! Thanks for taking the time to reply. Looks like a Christmas elf may be bringing me a similar stand so I wanted to check with someone that owns one. Thanks again!
@@mwmusic29 I have done extensive research on these 😱 so hit me up if you want any more info about stands 😁 And please send over your Elf after they have delivered your goodies... 😁
Thank Ian , for some definite food for thoughts on the internal rack width’ , was thinking 120 - but now may rethink and consider 130 , thanks again for the excellent videos on the Jasper stands 👍
Thank you. Yes, I sort of wish I'd got a wider one but practically it would have been just a little too wide for comfort. But do your sums if you've got the space 😊
I'd be interested to know your thoughts about what I think are a few design flaws with Jaspers. 1. No indentation groove along the horizontal tubes for the arm mounts to key into. 2 No "key" in an end collar of the horizontal tubes to key into a T piece on the upright tubes. 3. Arm inserted end pieces can loosen. Any of these can result in synths falling off and people have suffered this. Take a look at the On-Stage A Frames. I owned one 30+ years ago (EXACT same stand but difference brand name). It solves all of these problems.
Hi David - yes, all good points. I guess the reasoning behind not including lock-in grooves is that you can adjust the parts to any position. Grooves might limit the options. I don't know how fussy folks are about these things. As I mentioned in the review video, you need to keep tightening the attachments every so often until you're happy they are solid. Initially had an arm collapse because I wasn't sure how much to tighten everything 😢
Mine has been up since the review and it's OK so far 😊
Thank you for this video! I am in stand-seeking mode so it helps alot. 👏🏻
Hi - Yes, it's something not everyone thinks about, Good luck with your stand hunting 👍
Great help. Thanks for the info!
Thank you. So glad you found it useful 👍 If you are considering a Jaspers stand - recommended - you might find this useuful, too: ua-cam.com/video/XNIxJ2i9Goo/v-deo.html
Hey Ian, do you happen to know the lowest possible height of the lowest tier for your 4R? I'm interested in the 4r-120b, but am unsure how much possible space you can get between each tier.
Also, how do you like the wheels? Good quality?
Hi - It'll be approx. 21", the arms would be on top and the synth on the arms. I left mine at the default height which is about 6" higher which, for me, is a playable height.
Excellent food for thought!
Thank you, Matt. I think I should move to a bigger space 🤣
@@IanWaugh Are you divulging which two synths are on the way or is that a surprise?
@@mwmusic29 Ha! Ha! I didn't want to get into specifics about my setup, it was just to get people to check their gear and potential gear, especially if they have limited space. My two arrived yesterday and I've have been fiddling with the stand and my desk space to fit them in, Think I need a desktop stand 😁 Got a System 8 and a Poly D.
Initially I was going to get the 120 but since I only have space for a computer desk and one rack in my studio, I decided to go for the 150, with the optional 19 inch rack below the first tier, which is 160 externally and is the largest rack I can fit in the space I have. This way I’ll have space for at least 4 more modules/drum machines. It’s important for me to optimize the rack space because once it’s full, any new equipment that gets in mean that something of equal or higher size must come out. The downside is that now that I have a rack that is a third full, I’ll be more vulnerable to gear acquisition syndrome.
@@Pintosonic Excellent! I would have loved a wider rack but... Sounds like you're making the most of the space you have which is the best we can do.
We're all susceptible to G.A.S. no matter how much or how little space we have 😀
Alright, silly question time. What keeps the arms from tilting downward and dropping a keyboard off the front? What I mean is that the inside of the clamps look like smooth metal. I'm not sure how it would get a good hold on the smooth metal support bar to the extent that it wouldn't slowly tilt further and further down. Can you straighten me out on this?
Hey Matt - Not at all silly. In fact, all the joints and connectors grab onto the smooth poles. Essentially, the clamps simply tighten around the pole 😊 As an example, if you grasped a beer can very tightly, it would require an aweful lot of force to make it twist inside your grip - well, certainly in my case 😀 Most clamps tighten in two places. As explained in my previous video review of the Jaspers stand, you do need to tighten the cclamps sufficiently and, over the next few weekscheck them every few days and then check them every few weeks. I've just checked them again now and a few clamps tightened by a very small amount but even without tightening they were in no danger of slipping. I did put some weight on the arms to check your specific question and they were rock solid. The horizontal poles are also locked by a key groove (explained in other video) which makes them very secure. However, the bottom line is simply that you need to tightened them sufficiently - more than 'hand tight' but not too tight 😀 I suspect problems could arise if you are constantly dismantling and reassembling a stand but for static use they should be solid. Hope that helped 😀
@@IanWaugh Perfect explanation! Thanks for taking the time to reply. Looks like a Christmas elf may be bringing me a similar stand so I wanted to check with someone that owns one. Thanks again!
@@mwmusic29 I have done extensive research on these 😱 so hit me up if you want any more info about stands 😁 And please send over your Elf after they have delivered your goodies... 😁
@@IanWaugh You got it!!
Great Video!!! Thanks
Thank you, glad you found it useful Viktor 👍
Jaspers are sturdy but ugly. Much prefer the KS103, more elegant and discrete.
Hey Georgi - Yeah, they look cool 😎
You don't actually show and display the stand... just you talking.
Because it's not about any specific stand, it's about stands in general. If you want to see a Jaspers - ua-cam.com/video/XNIxJ2i9Goo/v-deo.html