Gevi actually did implement all your suggestions you made. Variable nozzle speeds and flow rates, temp now up to 99C, scale measures to 0.1g and much faster, saving profiles easier with a new button. Glad they had time and inclination to do them as now it is a great machine
That's great! I had more things I wanted changed, but they were weird about compensating me for my time. So, I stopped consulting and didn't do a follow up video with the production model.
That’s a shame. If you take the effort to send prototypes out and get feedback, then act on that feedback, surely a follow up video is a good news story. The grinder / burrs is the star for me as it produces great taste in the coffee. My one concern, given that previously Gevi made low end machines, is the longevity of the unit but only time will tell
would love to see you do a "brewing for two" video with your preferred recipe. I love that this product has the recipe saving option. If they make some of the changes you mentioned I really might need to buy this. nice video
I also own this Gevi machine and love it. I use it for pour over and also the grinder for espresso. The only thing I miss is a bellows on top of the hopper that would make it easyer to get less retention.
Hi Lance so mainly based on your reviews I ordered a Gevi. Its been very substantially revised and termed the 4in1. I made my first brew yesterday but used the no bypass brewer you recommended in another video and wow. Just wow. It was far and away the best pour over I've ever had.. thanks so much @Lance
Being a new viewer. I appreciate the ending with how you clarified your disclosure and morality of reviews. I am starting to appreciate you and your heart for the coffee world. You have now won me over and I am a fan. Good job
They are on the right track, as far as I am concerned. Who wouldn't want complete control over all parameters that lead to a consistent cup of coffee?!
I really am impressed! Even though the scale is a bit sub par in refresh rate and not a tenth of a gram accurate (which, generally would each be deal breakers on a coffee scale) the fact that you were able to calibrate with your Acaia and app indicates (at least to my satisfaction) that the machine is more accurate than the scale itself, which is really cool! So, in a very real sense, this machine is also a bean counter!
Most amazing feature for my family is something that you also mentioned…my wife has no interest in geeking out on coffee (she tried to make pour over the other day but accidentally used an espresso grind setting) and a programmed recipe for her to follow would be perfect.
After this video I purchased the device I seriously love it . The settings are amazing , the grinder , the water flow , the speed the fact that I can store James Hoffmann V60 recipe and then my wife can use it With 3 big exceptions I really wish it had 1 an adapter so I can put my 58 porterfilter of my Gaggia Classic (maybe someone can make a 3D printed one?) because I hate to hover my hand under it when I am grinding for espresso 2) I can’t Belive it doesn’t have a timer .. I had to buy a sage precision brewer to start the first batch of coffee of the day 3) call me crazy but I love to have a heat plate to keep the coffee for the first 2 hours hot. I know it fucks up the tast if you leave it to long but I wish it had one like standard coffee makes do . My cheap BobHome v60 pour over machine has one ☝️ but it brews pretty badly
I'm debating this one versus a MocaMaster and the Ratio 8. Are you familiar with those and have you had any experience with it? I too love a hot plate, but i also have all the v60 devices and i just want something that's an automatic pour over for the days I don't have time to do a manual one. Curious on your thoughts after owning the GEVI now. Thanks!
@@AllysonGelnettMusic mocha master avoid it doesn’t use a pump .. it uses a traditional method of the water boiling and reaching the top plus you have absolutely no control about temperature and speed . Ratio 8 is solid it uses a smart brewing algorithm to mimic hand-made pour over coffee. But very little customization as opposed to this . If you have have the budget the killer combo in my opinion is the Gevi 4 in 1 and the sage (or breville in USA ) precision coffee maker . But all coffee makers are way inferior to this Gevi because the 4 in 1 is more than just a normal machine it has the grinder that just for itself could cost 400-500& easily plus a magestic scale and the computer that can give you optimized pour over capabilities. I use the grinder in this machine to also pull espresso
@@AllysonGelnettMusic I bought the hot plate separately in Amazon very cheaply and I use it after I brew wirh my Gevi 4 in 1 And for automation I use a safe precision brewer I bought used for $150
I’m a 1-2 cup guy myself. I’ll have to keep an eye out for the upgraded model. I like coffee from my Hario. I don’t understand why these Pour-over Brewers that are being made don’t utilize the hario type style cone. I think the ridges & the way water flows thru it is what makes the coffee stand out. Just my opinion. Thanks for the reviews.
Thanks for the comment! I'll certainly cover conical Brewers in a video soonish. Baby due Saturday, so things will move slowly, but I'm Workin on some! Thanks for the comment
500$ and the casing is what it seems to be fragile painted plastic. It could have a calculator/sensor that's gonna change the revolution speed so you always have like a full revolution or 2 or 3 no matter what the quantity of water you choose.
Should be noted again this is preproduction. They're sending me an updated one with some of the changes I suggested soon. And he's! That would be a DOPE addition.
@@LanceHedrick lol scary music! Even a divine revelation kind of music could work. We need a good narrator: Google is everywhere, it knows everything, we don't know yet if it's good or evil.
Lance I’d love to see you do a moccamaster dailing in tips and tricks. I got one for my wife and I want to figure out how to get the most out of it. I typically make espresso and find the moccamaster a bit of a mystery
You nailed it Lance! The biggest problem with making various styles of coffee is the grinder. It’s just not as easy as moving the setting from espresso to pourover and back. Going back to your espresso setting never seems to be the precise setting again, requiring adjustment. I have a Decent Espresso machine and I can do do pourovers with their pourover portafilter, which is arguably more precise than this machine. The missing item in my current setup is a grinder with a pourover setting that works (so I can leave my grinder at its espresso setting). Pourover and French press don’t require the same precision in grind setting as espresso. My grinder is set for my favorite beans for use with my Decent and rarely gets moved. We use a cheap grinder for pourovers and French press, so I’d rather use this money for a better grinder. Then again, one could look at this machine as a grinder with a pourover feature, which sounds great. So, the big question is - how good is this grinder compared to, for example, a Niche or the new Eureka? I wonder if it is good enough for Gevi to offer the grinder only and remove the wet side of this machine? $300? $250?
Hey! Sorry for delay in response. This is better than mignon or niche. 100% serious. Also, I would argue this makes better pourovers than the decent (which I havel. The rotating head is insane. Also, update, they took like all my critiques and implemented them. Now, there are four speeds for head rotation, temp goes to 210, ratios go to the tenth, and more.
@@LanceHedrick Great to hear they’re being so responsive to your suggestions! I understand the rotation, great idea to be able to modify that. If the grinder is that good, I hope they’ll make a standalone grinder w/ scale only. Then, they could also lower its height. I don’t have the space for this machine. PS - I got the Decent based on your recommendation and loving it. Thanks!
The decent is friggin incredible! Best espresso machine overall, imo. It's just so good. The pourover basket is a beast for doing small brews, for sure. But this bad boy, with the revolutions, very seriously imitates a kettle pour. It's quite impressive, especially coming from gevi
Looks super cool, even though I love doing manual pour overs enough that I wouldn't buy something like this. I was expecting it to be much more expensive too, especially considering it has a good grinder built in. (I'd probably be more interested in this machine if it didn't have a grinder built in, to be honest, though.)
Awesome review, thanks! Some feedback: your audio recording setup could use some tweaking as now you are clipping the mic a bit making it somewhat taxing to listen for me at least.
ua-cam.com/video/tkFto6XB46E/v-deo.html here is a video with a nice explanation. You are so enthusiastic while explaining that happens when you raise your volume a bit :-) Sort of a positive problem, heh.
Can you set the machine to brew at a certain time in the morning? So I can grind it the night before and set it up and have a fresh cup of coffee as soon as I wake up?
I just don't like everything crammed in one unit because they always end up becoming anchors when one major component goes wrong. Just look how many broken bean to cup machines you can buy online for a pittance provided you go through the hoops to repair it.
Interesting machine, thanks for the review. For some reason I found it incredibly distracting that the bottom of the machine was cut off in the wide (and some of close up) shots.
Ah sorry about that! This isn't my full time job. In fact, I'm just barely able to squeeze it in, especially with a second baby due Saturday lol. I'll try to get things like that better!
Sorry to go off topic from this video Lance, but you mentioned you may show a tutorial on your BDB video in which you'll show a tutorial on how to achieve the Slayer modification to the BDB. I was thinking very intently on getting another e61 unit, but also on the fence to get the BDB for a different location. Do you think you can make that tutorial video? I've seen another one online, but the angle in which the video was filmed was hard to make out where you make the connections. Much appreciated for your time.
Hey! So, if you go to my Breville video, I have loads of links on the captions. The mod is incredibly simple. And if you join the espresso afficianado discord, there are dozens of people that can help you with the mod if running into issues! It is truly a 15min mod.
Hey! Thanks for asking. My favorite changes with the season since our coffees change. We just got in a big shipment of new Ethiopias and our Hambela Buku we are releasing Friday is likely my favorite.
I always think products like this are weird when they don't offer a standalone without the grinder, most people wanting an auto pour over more than likely have grinders XD
Is the water container pressurized? If it's trying to hit 205F before dispensing the water, what happens at altitude where the boiling point is below 205F?
This is a good question, though I'd imagine people in those areas would set the temp to what they know it could handle, if that makes sense. Before brewing you have to set a temp. I doubt people in, say, the mountains of Colorado would set the temp above 201
Not sure if you are still using the Gevi 4 in 1 but I've been using mine for about a year and I'm having an issue with the brew stopping and giving me a low water error even though its still full. I mescal it often and this seems to help but still occurs intermittently. I also have issues when trying to saturate my filter using empty water with rotation where it stops after only a few seconds. Any suggestions you can provide would be appreciated. When its working its great....but I'm concerned as the issues seem to be happening more frequently..
Nice review. I think there's a real lack of automated 1-2 cup products so hopefully that kickstarts the market. Imagine there's a market for a cheaper grinder-less version. Curious that they went for the spouts instead of a showerhead. Looks pretty sweet, can't really justify taking up that much space in a shared kitchen but otherwise I'd be interested
Honestly don't think it would not be much cheaper than it is now on Kickstarter, this seems like a very complex machine, I doubt the grinder it worth more than half the retail price so at least I'd guess 400 for the brewer only
The grinder is a 60mm flat. I'd imagine that grinder alone would go for at least $300. The brewer, imo, is worth around $500 when you factor in the sheer capabilities and the fact the ratio 6 is like $300. I think they'd be able to get the brewer to $400 likely.
@@LanceHedrick yeh the value at this price seems great. Separates will be more expensive, some people just have a tendency to keep things like that - kinda like hifi gear. In any case hopefully we'll see more single cup brewers with and without grinders as there's definitely a gap in the market. I think technivorm do one but it's very basic.
Hey Lance, now that you've had some more time with the Gevi, how do you find the grinder? How would it compare to something like Lagom Mini? Just the grinding capabilities that is. Would be great to hear your thoughts. Great in-depth video as always. Cheers!
Hey! The gevi grinder is awesome. It makes better filter than the lagom mini. I haven't done enough espresso really with the gevi grinder to dictate how it is, but I do prefer the espresso from gevi burrs in other grinders. Then again, only have run about 10lb through lagom
Hello there, you do 1:1 barista classes? Also I’m very new to coffee business and I’m shopping for my machines, it’s a small cart coffee, you can recommend a espresso machine? I’m debating between La Marzocco linea mini or GS3
Thank you so much! And @hihihi I saw your comment on them not changing things! They're actually already implementing changes I've suggested and are sending me another unit to test with updates. Fast turnaround.
I just checked, and as of March 2023, it costs $800. Not for me ... I can spend less than half that and get an Ode 2. I find fussing with my scales and pour over a nice focusing chore in the morning, I don't need an automated dripping device.
@@LanceHedrick thanks for the quick reply. My tricolate is lying unopened at the moment. I guess now is a good time to try it. You used a grind size of 15 I see. What was the drawdown time? Just asking so I have a ballpark figure
haha yes. I actually just replaced the feet on it. I was waiting for suction feet. With light roast coffee, the whole contraption moved so much it was unusable, so I had to wait to get replacements for the feet so they would suction onto the table. Finally getting to season it and use it!
This machine is great. Personally though, I prefer the manual labour of making my cup of coffee - it's like driving a manual stick vs an automatic transmission. I think what's also missing in the whole coffee community is the lack of reproducibility in making a great cup of coffee. In the end of the day, it's not the gear, it's the barista. Manufacturers should work more closely with roasters to allow home baristas alike to re-produce consistent high quality espresso that is reproducible and consistent across its customer base and community.
They've been working with me on this machine and just sent me an updated version based on my critique, which is extremely encouraging. Of course, this won't be for everyone. I enjoy manually brewing, but I also enjoy using this.
Great review. Seams like the perfect brewing toy for people looking for a grinder for all the methods. Just that value is pretty amazing, and you can dial in pour over brews?! Not on the market, but if I was, this would be a Solid.
Completely different. The decent has a fixed basket for a shower head..this has a rotating shower. So, not really comparable. Decent is closer to a batch brew type mechanism whereas this is moreso an automated pourover!
This is my 2nd Keurig coffee maker of this model. ua-cam.com/users/postUgkxBrV-RbF5Nk0Rlt9i15aao-YMzqzTG8Vf The first worked fine for more than 2 years, and I could still get a decent cup of coffee out of it if I fiddled with it when I decided to replace it. The problem I had with my first unit was this: When attempting to brew a cup of coffee, the unit would either keep brewing until the coffee was undrinkable or it would not run long enough and the coffee produced was way too strong. I cleaned the unit as best I could but it did not help. So in the end it was just too much trouble to get a good cup of coffee out of it, so I decided to replace it with a new one, which has been working great since I unpacked it.
@@LanceHedrick u should test out a VERY cheap machine, like those amazon basics and try to make them work decently. Would really help us 3rd world coffee consumers who can't invest 6,000 reais [Brazillian currency] (like myself) in a Breville Express.
Yes I know that. I just mean to get it to boiling and then pump it through. The boiler may get it to boiling but as it moves through, it will undoubtedly lose heat. This is what I mean. Obviously boiling water would be odd coming out.
Gevi actually did implement all your suggestions you made. Variable nozzle speeds and flow rates, temp now up to 99C, scale measures to 0.1g and much faster, saving profiles easier with a new button. Glad they had time and inclination to do them as now it is a great machine
That's great! I had more things I wanted changed, but they were weird about compensating me for my time. So, I stopped consulting and didn't do a follow up video with the production model.
That’s a shame. If you take the effort to send prototypes out and get feedback, then act on that feedback, surely a follow up video is a good news story. The grinder / burrs is the star for me as it produces great taste in the coffee. My one concern, given that previously Gevi made low end machines, is the longevity of the unit but only time will tell
would love to see you do a "brewing for two" video with your preferred recipe. I love that this product has the recipe saving option. If they make some of the changes you mentioned I really might need to buy this. nice video
I also own this Gevi machine and love it. I use it for pour over and also the grinder for espresso. The only thing I miss is a bellows on top of the hopper that would make it easyer to get less retention.
Hi Lance so mainly based on your reviews I ordered a Gevi. Its been very substantially revised and termed the 4in1. I made my first brew yesterday but used the no bypass brewer you recommended in another video and wow. Just wow. It was far and away the best pour over I've ever had.. thanks so much @Lance
Being a new viewer. I appreciate the ending with how you clarified your disclosure and morality of reviews.
I am starting to appreciate you and your heart for the coffee world. You have now won me over and I am a fan. Good job
Thank you so much ben! I'm so happy that you watched till the end and heard that. it's something I truly believe in and something I will never recent
They are on the right track, as far as I am concerned. Who wouldn't want complete control over all parameters that lead to a consistent cup of coffee?!
I really am impressed! Even though the scale is a bit sub par in refresh rate and not a tenth of a gram accurate (which, generally would each be deal breakers on a coffee scale) the fact that you were able to calibrate with your Acaia and app indicates (at least to my satisfaction) that the machine is more accurate than the scale itself, which is really cool! So, in a very real sense, this machine is also a bean counter!
for sure! It does a decent job. I'm still not sure on longevity, though
Most amazing feature for my family is something that you also mentioned…my wife has no interest in geeking out on coffee (she tried to make pour over the other day but accidentally used an espresso grind setting) and a programmed recipe for her to follow would be perfect.
Exactly why my wife is in love with it! She uses it daily. LOVES it
Hey Lance, you got me into this mad mad world of espresso making. Love your videos 😘
Haha that's awesome! Thanks for the support and watching. Glad you're enjoying!
After this video I purchased the device I seriously love it . The settings are amazing , the grinder , the water flow , the speed the fact that I can store James Hoffmann V60 recipe and then my wife can use it
With 3 big exceptions I really wish it had
1 an adapter so I can put my 58 porterfilter of my Gaggia Classic (maybe someone can make a 3D printed one?) because I hate to hover my hand under it when I am grinding for espresso
2) I can’t Belive it doesn’t have a timer .. I had to buy a sage precision brewer to start the first batch of coffee of the day
3) call me crazy but I love to have a heat plate to keep the coffee for the first 2 hours hot. I know it fucks up the tast if you leave it to long but I wish it had one like standard coffee makes do . My cheap BobHome v60 pour over machine has one ☝️ but it brews pretty badly
I'm debating this one versus a MocaMaster and the Ratio 8. Are you familiar with those and have you had any experience with it? I too love a hot plate, but i also have all the v60 devices and i just want something that's an automatic pour over for the days I don't have time to do a manual one. Curious on your thoughts after owning the GEVI now. Thanks!
@@AllysonGelnettMusic mocha master avoid it doesn’t use a pump .. it uses a traditional method of the water boiling and reaching the top plus you have absolutely no control about temperature and speed . Ratio 8 is solid it uses a smart brewing algorithm to mimic hand-made pour over coffee. But very little customization as opposed to this .
If you have have the budget the killer combo in my opinion is the Gevi 4 in 1 and the sage (or breville in USA ) precision coffee maker .
But all coffee makers are way inferior to this Gevi because the 4 in 1 is more than just a normal machine it has the grinder that just for itself could cost 400-500& easily plus a magestic scale and the computer that can give you optimized pour over capabilities. I use the grinder in this machine to also pull espresso
@@AllysonGelnettMusic I bought the hot plate separately in Amazon very cheaply and I use it after I brew wirh my Gevi 4 in 1
And for automation I use a safe precision brewer I bought used for $150
@@AllysonGelnettMusic my hot plate is called
KitchenBoss Cup warmer, drink warmer, electric coffee warmer, cup warmer: with 3 temperature settings
I’m a 1-2 cup guy myself. I’ll have to keep an eye out for the upgraded model. I like coffee from my Hario. I don’t understand why these Pour-over Brewers that are being made don’t utilize the hario type style cone. I think the ridges & the way water flows thru it is what makes the coffee stand out. Just my opinion. Thanks for the reviews.
Thanks for the comment! I'll certainly cover conical Brewers in a video soonish. Baby due Saturday, so things will move slowly, but I'm Workin on some! Thanks for the comment
thanks for pulling that 4th GCP shot for me in the IG live tonight!! Love the dimmer knob mod!
Haha! Absolutely! Thanks for watching. Just filmed the modded video today so should release within the week!
500$ and the casing is what it seems to be fragile painted plastic.
It could have a calculator/sensor that's gonna change the revolution speed so you always have like a full revolution or 2 or 3 no matter what the quantity of water you choose.
Should be noted again this is preproduction. They're sending me an updated one with some of the changes I suggested soon. And he's! That would be a DOPE addition.
It might be some aluminum. I'm not even really sure. I'll need to go check it
I'm sure you can find out with a simple Google search lol
@@LanceHedrick your kitchen is closer than Google. Don't be lazy, go and come back to tell us. We're waiting here 🤣
Hahahaha! Is it though? Google is everywhere (scary music playing)
@@LanceHedrick lol scary music! Even a divine revelation kind of music could work. We need a good narrator:
Google is everywhere, it knows everything, we don't know yet if it's good or evil.
Lance I’d love to see you do a moccamaster dailing in tips and tricks. I got one for my wife and I want to figure out how to get the most out of it. I typically make espresso and find the moccamaster a bit of a mystery
You nailed it Lance! The biggest problem with making various styles of coffee is the grinder. It’s just not as easy as moving the setting from espresso to pourover and back. Going back to your espresso setting never seems to be the precise setting again, requiring adjustment. I have a Decent Espresso machine and I can do do pourovers with their pourover portafilter, which is arguably more precise than this machine. The missing item in my current setup is a grinder with a pourover setting that works (so I can leave my grinder at its espresso setting). Pourover and French press don’t require the same precision in grind setting as espresso. My grinder is set for my favorite beans for use with my Decent and rarely gets moved. We use a cheap grinder for pourovers and French press, so I’d rather use this money for a better grinder. Then again, one could look at this machine as a grinder with a pourover feature, which sounds great. So, the big question is - how good is this grinder compared to, for example, a Niche or the new Eureka?
I wonder if it is good enough for Gevi to offer the grinder only and remove the wet side of this machine? $300? $250?
Hey! Sorry for delay in response. This is better than mignon or niche. 100% serious. Also, I would argue this makes better pourovers than the decent (which I havel. The rotating head is insane. Also, update, they took like all my critiques and implemented them. Now, there are four speeds for head rotation, temp goes to 210, ratios go to the tenth, and more.
@@LanceHedrick Great to hear they’re being so responsive to your suggestions! I understand the rotation, great idea to be able to modify that. If the grinder is that good, I hope they’ll make a standalone grinder w/ scale only. Then, they could also lower its height. I don’t have the space for this machine.
PS - I got the Decent based on your recommendation and loving it. Thanks!
The decent is friggin incredible! Best espresso machine overall, imo. It's just so good. The pourover basket is a beast for doing small brews, for sure. But this bad boy, with the revolutions, very seriously imitates a kettle pour. It's quite impressive, especially coming from gevi
Thank you Lance. Do you know, from the kettle to the spouts is the water touching any plastic?
Amazing video. Very informative. Thanks for the attention to detail
thank you so much for watching! means a lot
Looks super cool, even though I love doing manual pour overs enough that I wouldn't buy something like this. I was expecting it to be much more expensive too, especially considering it has a good grinder built in. (I'd probably be more interested in this machine if it didn't have a grinder built in, to be honest, though.)
Awesome review, thanks! Some feedback: your audio recording setup could use some tweaking as now you are clipping the mic a bit making it somewhat taxing to listen for me at least.
What does clipping the mic mean? Thanks for the feedback!
ua-cam.com/video/tkFto6XB46E/v-deo.html here is a video with a nice explanation. You are so enthusiastic while explaining that happens when you raise your volume a bit :-) Sort of a positive problem, heh.
Ah yes. We filmed again today and moved the mix further down..hopefully it'll help
Can you set the machine to brew at a certain time in the morning? So I can grind it the night before and set it up and have a fresh cup of coffee as soon as I wake up?
I just don't like everything crammed in one unit because they always end up becoming anchors when one major component goes wrong. Just look how many broken bean to cup machines you can buy online for a pittance provided you go through the hoops to repair it.
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laundry machine on the background there 👌
Haha! I'll relay it to my friend, whose house it is lol
Interesting machine, thanks for the review.
For some reason I found it incredibly distracting that the bottom of the machine was cut off in the wide (and some of close up) shots.
Ah sorry about that! This isn't my full time job. In fact, I'm just barely able to squeeze it in, especially with a second baby due Saturday lol. I'll try to get things like that better!
@@LanceHedrick all the best for your family!
Thank you!
Very nice video sir!
Thank you! Appreciate it
Awesome! i would luv one of these in my kitchen! love your videos sir..!!!
Thank you so much! I truly appreciate it, friend.
Hi Lance. Have you seen the production models? Curious if they made any adjustments/ improvements based on your recommendations.
Sorry to go off topic from this video Lance, but you mentioned you may show a tutorial on your BDB video in which you'll show a tutorial on how to achieve the Slayer modification to the BDB.
I was thinking very intently on getting another e61 unit, but also on the fence to get the BDB for a different location. Do you think you can make that tutorial video? I've seen another one online, but the angle in which the video was filmed was hard to make out where you make the connections. Much appreciated for your time.
Hey! So, if you go to my Breville video, I have loads of links on the captions. The mod is incredibly simple. And if you join the espresso afficianado discord, there are dozens of people that can help you with the mod if running into issues! It is truly a 15min mod.
Great review, Lance
Thank you, Alan! Loving your series on ECT
I wonder what is your favourite Onyx coffee. And which one is good for espresso?
He has talked about it in the patreon discord before and says the worka is one of his favorites at least, both for filter and espresso
Hey! Thanks for asking. My favorite changes with the season since our coffees change. We just got in a big shipment of new Ethiopias and our Hambela Buku we are releasing Friday is likely my favorite.
I always think products like this are weird when they don't offer a standalone without the grinder, most people wanting an auto pour over more than likely have grinders XD
Would you agree the touchscreen could use some improvements? It seemed a bit finicky which makes me wonder what type of touch screen their utilizing.
It's mostly the sensitivity of the screen. They're working on it
Is the water container pressurized? If it's trying to hit 205F before dispensing the water, what happens at altitude where the boiling point is below 205F?
This is a good question, though I'd imagine people in those areas would set the temp to what they know it could handle, if that makes sense. Before brewing you have to set a temp. I doubt people in, say, the mountains of Colorado would set the temp above 201
Please do a full video of your Tricolate brewing recipe. It is a totally different beast from all other percolation devices
I've got a no bypass video in the works! Waiting on a part i've requested from a company before filming..
@@LanceHedrick Thanks!
Interested to hear you drink decaf at night. Can you please do a video on decaf - the different types and how to find quality options.
Oh that's a grand idea! How to pick and brew delicious decaf
So, we finally got a coffeemaker for all you Thermomix-enthusiasts out there! ;-)
Hahaha! I love this comment.
Not sure if you are still using the Gevi 4 in 1 but I've been using mine for about a year and I'm having an issue with the brew stopping and giving me a low water error even though its still full. I mescal it often and this seems to help but still occurs intermittently. I also have issues when trying to saturate my filter using empty water with rotation where it stops after only a few seconds. Any suggestions you can provide would be appreciated. When its working its great....but I'm concerned as the issues seem to be happening more frequently..
nice video lance. easy to see that youve had a lot of fun using this over the past few weeks!
Absolutely. Getting to use this instead of a kettle is incredibly helpful and precise for testing.
Nice review. I think there's a real lack of automated 1-2 cup products so hopefully that kickstarts the market. Imagine there's a market for a cheaper grinder-less version. Curious that they went for the spouts instead of a showerhead. Looks pretty sweet, can't really justify taking up that much space in a shared kitchen but otherwise I'd be interested
Honestly don't think it would not be much cheaper than it is now on Kickstarter, this seems like a very complex machine, I doubt the grinder it worth more than half the retail price so at least I'd guess 400 for the brewer only
@@doc8125 true, it’s probably a better value proposition as the full package
The grinder is a 60mm flat. I'd imagine that grinder alone would go for at least $300. The brewer, imo, is worth around $500 when you factor in the sheer capabilities and the fact the ratio 6 is like $300.
I think they'd be able to get the brewer to $400 likely.
@@LanceHedrick yeh the value at this price seems great. Separates will be more expensive, some people just have a tendency to keep things like that - kinda like hifi gear. In any case hopefully we'll see more single cup brewers with and without grinders as there's definitely a gap in the market. I think technivorm do one but it's very basic.
Agreed! And yes. None are good. Heck, none of the home batch Brewers are great to me. Lots of room for improvement.
Really great and fun video, very informative, pretty cool brewer, Wonderful versatility in such a compact little package. Nicely done thank you
Yeah! I think so! And thank you so much
@@LanceHedrick your welcome
Hey Lance, now that you've had some more time with the Gevi, how do you find the grinder? How would it compare to something like Lagom Mini? Just the grinding capabilities that is. Would be great to hear your thoughts.
Great in-depth video as always. Cheers!
Hey! The gevi grinder is awesome. It makes better filter than the lagom mini. I haven't done enough espresso really with the gevi grinder to dictate how it is, but I do prefer the espresso from gevi burrs in other grinders. Then again, only have run about 10lb through lagom
"ya all know me I love the future" 😂
*insert Dwight shrute meme saying "it's true"*
Hello there, you do 1:1 barista classes? Also I’m very new to coffee business and I’m shopping for my machines, it’s a small cart coffee, you can recommend a espresso machine? I’m debating between La Marzocco linea mini or GS3
Hey! I do not, other than through the roasting company I work for. Onyx coffee lab
Great video, Lance! I prefer your videos over Hoffman's. I hope that is encouraging. Keep it up!
Because he’s more personable .
Thank you so much! And @hihihi I saw your comment on them not changing things! They're actually already implementing changes I've suggested and are sending me another unit to test with updates. Fast turnaround.
@@LanceHedrick wow unreal. I wait 1 year + for board games from Kickstarter and these guys are pumping and shipping a machine in 3 months . Wow
They are a big brand. I'm sure the Indiegogo is moreso to gauge interest than actual crowdfunding. Give Gevi a google- they're not small lol!
I just checked, and as of March 2023, it costs $800.
Not for me ... I can spend less than half that and get an Ode 2. I find fussing with my scales and pour over a nice focusing chore in the morning, I don't need an automated dripping device.
Oh geez. Hard pass
Looks great regardless of the brand.
Absolutely! My only trepidation is because I don't know the brand, I can't rely on previous experience with longevity. Thanks for watching!
Cool machine and even cooler T-shirt.... Care to provide link to buy the T-shirt? :)
Haha! You can buy it from the company I work for
Onyxcoffeelab.com and go to shop!
@@LanceHedrick Thanks man... definitely will shop.
Heck yeah! Cheers, my friend
Great review! Thx. What happened with Michael’s review you’re mentioning?
Is it gone? I have a link in the caption!
@@LanceHedrick yes, gone((( seems strange. Was it with critics?
I have no clue! I just messaged him.
Hi Lance, do you have any sample recipes for the Gevi? What settings did you use for the tricolate with it?
I program 12g coffee, 1:17, 30g pour, one min, 30g pour, one min 70g,70g pour
@@LanceHedrick thanks for the quick reply. My tricolate is lying unopened at the moment. I guess now is a good time to try it. You used a grind size of 15 I see. What was the drawdown time? Just asking so I have a ballpark figure
I honestly can't remember but I wouldn't sweat it! Long brews with tric are fine
what happened to the big tabletop hand grinder that you were going to review? Is that still a thing that's going to happen?
haha yes. I actually just replaced the feet on it. I was waiting for suction feet. With light roast coffee, the whole contraption moved so much it was unusable, so I had to wait to get replacements for the feet so they would suction onto the table. Finally getting to season it and use it!
This machine is great. Personally though, I prefer the manual labour of making my cup of coffee - it's like driving a manual stick vs an automatic transmission.
I think what's also missing in the whole coffee community is the lack of reproducibility in making a great cup of coffee. In the end of the day, it's not the gear, it's the barista. Manufacturers should work more closely with roasters to allow home baristas alike to re-produce consistent high quality espresso that is reproducible and consistent across its customer base and community.
They've been working with me on this machine and just sent me an updated version based on my critique, which is extremely encouraging.
Of course, this won't be for everyone. I enjoy manually brewing, but I also enjoy using this.
Great review. Seams like the perfect brewing toy for people looking for a grinder for all the methods. Just that value is pretty amazing, and you can dial in pour over brews?! Not on the market, but if I was, this would be a Solid.
Absolutely. Espresso to filter. Really impressive grinder, no doubt. Thanks for watching!
Love the channel! Are you still planning to make a part 2 of the Gaggia Classic video?
Yes! Filmed it today's took a while to get all the mods and find the time to perform them all
@@LanceHedrick you are literally the best. So pumped about that video!
Thank you! Hope you enjoyed part 2 😁
@@LanceHedrick the new video is amazing!
@@LanceHedrick Also, congratulations on your second kiddo ❤️
Hej Lance ! Nice video again. How would you compare this with the decent espresso pour over? Pros cons?
Completely different. The decent has a fixed basket for a shower head..this has a rotating shower. So, not really comparable. Decent is closer to a batch brew type mechanism whereas this is moreso an automated pourover!
Love this machine!! So easy for me to make my coffee with in the morning!
My baby momma!
This kind of brewing you did, how similar is it to the taste profile of an immersion brew with the hario?
Not similar! It uses the bed as filtration and passes thru a paper filter. Clean, sweet, balanced
@@LanceHedrick cheers, interesting brewer.
For sure! Thanks for watching
Have you tried it with the Espro Bloom and if so how were the results?
I have not. I've not been a big fan of the espro. Super annoying filter and not a fan of cup profiles without the paper lol. I'm sure it'd do we'll!
Thanks for clarifying that 3 ml/sec means 3 ml comes out per seconds LOL ;)
You'd be surprised, my friend... 😐
@@LanceHedrick 🤣 you are sadly correct sir!
This is my 2nd Keurig coffee maker of this model. ua-cam.com/users/postUgkxBrV-RbF5Nk0Rlt9i15aao-YMzqzTG8Vf The first worked fine for more than 2 years, and I could still get a decent cup of coffee out of it if I fiddled with it when I decided to replace it. The problem I had with my first unit was this: When attempting to brew a cup of coffee, the unit would either keep brewing until the coffee was undrinkable or it would not run long enough and the coffee produced was way too strong. I cleaned the unit as best I could but it did not help. So in the end it was just too much trouble to get a good cup of coffee out of it, so I decided to replace it with a new one, which has been working great since I unpacked it.
Great video! Where did you get your shirt? Lulz
Hey! Thank you! My shirt is from the company I work for- Onyx Coffee Lab
I want it, but only the brew portion...
Yeah that would be a good follow up product for them to release
I absolutely understand that and it is a constant critique they're hearing. Hopefully they'll release just the brewer if this release is successful!
кофемолка этой кофеварки лучше кофемолки дф64?
Лучше ли она чем ручные Timemore X lite и 1zpresso zp6
Incredible machine, Lance!
For sure! Really cool look into the future.
@@LanceHedrick u should test out a VERY cheap machine, like those amazon basics and try to make them work decently. Would really help us 3rd world coffee consumers who can't invest 6,000 reais [Brazillian currency] (like myself) in a Breville Express.
That makes sense! I'll feel out my Patreon community and see what they think! I buy things based on their recs. Thanks for the idea!
Nice vidéo 🥰🥳
Thank you so much!
Love a cool gadget 😜
Haha! Same. It's an addiction.
This just kills all the fun of pour over.
Nice
Hey Lance!
Always first. I love it!
hmm Gevi Vs Xbloom? :O
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Coffee council... Would you give this video a 10 out of 10?
Yes, we would
Thank you! Really appreciate that, Ignacio!
If Dyson made a coffee machine...🤣
Haha! You're not wrong lol
4:59 is that a fart? I'm sure I heard him fart.
Hahahahahaha love it. Flatulence. Unedited always.
$100 shipping to the UK 🥴🥴🥴
YIKES! That's no good.
noyce
Tanks
Mannschaftsspeisesaal
No clue what this means, but thanks for the comment!
I can’t concentrate on anything but the clock behind you
Sorry 🥺
You can't boil water & pump it out unless you want to spray boiling water all over the place. You have to be sub-boiling.
Yes I know that. I just mean to get it to boiling and then pump it through. The boiler may get it to boiling but as it moves through, it will undoubtedly lose heat. This is what I mean. Obviously boiling water would be odd coming out.
K.I.S.S.
Haha! Oh the irony lol