Yeah. After listening to this video the first time with Nick, I looked up the incident online. It was absolutely brutal what the North Koreans did to those two American Officers. In earlier times, that alone would have been enough provocation to start a war. Instead America showed great restraint, while still giving North Korea a black eye and a reminder about FAFO.
I was indirectly involved in this. The MPs came to town and herded us on cattle cars and forced us to return to our barracks. The immediately gave us our orders and told to pack our duffle bags. We were headed to Korea. We were told N. Korea shot and killed 3 of our officers on the DMZ. They loaded us up on busses to ship us to where the planes were waiting to take us to Korea. However, before we reached the planes N. Korea apologized and we returned to our barracks. Although, we were confined to quarters in case N. Korea did something else stupid. About 10-15 soldiers went AWOL and bcuz it was a time of war they were picked up and went to prison for desertion.
Good old cattle cars. In 2000, i did my MOS school for the Marines down at Fort LeonardWood army base. At that point we were Marines but not considered Fleet Marines, still students. So they hauled us around in those cattle cars everywhere because we weren't allowed to have personal vehicles yet. It was actually kind of fun, most of the fellas just sang songs the whole way there and back. They still did the Marine Corps military police and motor T school down there at the time. Not sure about today
Here's the great thing about "To finish the work left unfinished" because it can mean, cutting down the tree, orrrr it can mean finishing the Korean war which is technically on pause for eternity.
No, this was making a POINT. It was & wasn't over a tree. N.Korea boy, and I MEAN BOY, got a 'tude & went too far trying to prove a different, but similar point. But they didn't have the ability to back it up, USA did. If you guys haven't done the The Infamous Eager Beavers & Their Custom B17 Bomber - Old 666 you should, but it is his longest one I'm aware of (on his channel) 35:09, but it is very good as is the Wake Island one, and the Jake McNasty Anti-hero one. all by TFE.
I was there, the MPs escorted some Korean workers to trim the tree because some of the branches were blocking the view to the guard post at the bridge. The guard post the bridge and another guard post, the US MPs escorted the Korean civilian workers to trim the tree, not to cut it down, and North Koreans got upset about that and attacked them, a few days later, it was decided to cut the whole tree down, and we were alert. We were in our positions with weapons loaded, and the engineers and the infantry in , cut the tree down, and that’s when everything was divided in half . N
It started out as a tree, then 2 unarmed NATO peacekeeping personnel were killed who just happened to be US service personnel for supervising a tree trimming work detail by North Korean soldiers with clubs who beat them to death… simple facts - 2 human beings lost their lives who definitely were someone’s sons they possibly could have been someone’s brothers or they might even have had children of their own… Simple unanswerable question - what is a human life worth? To their parents? To their siblings? To their children? The value of everything they might have been able to accomplish throughout their lives… that’s what a lot of us US citizens think and feel about our service personnel… They’re not just some people… they are us. And a lot of people in the US even feel that way about non-US citizens who lose their lives in incredibly horrific situations. We don’t want to rule the world, we don’t want to take away anyone’s individuality, but we do want you to have long, happy, prosperous and productive lives. We would love to meet as many of you as we possibly can because the more we see the more we realize, WE ARE ALL just people trying to make a better life for our children without being a detriment to anyone around us.
From my google search, NK wouldn't have nuked back then: "North Korea's nuclear weapons program dates back to the 1980s. Focusing on practical uses of nuclear energy and the completion of a nuclear weapon development system, North Korea began to operate facilities for uranium fabrication and conversion, and conducted high-explosive detonation tests."
The operation wasn't just about the tree, or the officers who were killed; Pentagon brass believed that if we sent another detail to remove the tree, the KPA would use the incident as a pretext to invade S. Korea, hence the shiw of force. In addition to all of the aforementioned operations going on, 12 C-130 cargo planes were sitting on the runway at Osun airbase, in Japan, with their engines turning so they were ready to take off immediately if the word was given. They were loaded with enough supplies to run ab infantry division for 30 days. The choice of the C-130s being significant because they can drop their loads without landing via Low Altitude Parachute Extraction Systems (LAPES) and immediately fly away to be reloaded. What TFE didn't mention was that the American officers were hacked to death by the KPA. Only five of the people in the work detail were assigned to cutting down the tree and they were civilians. As soon as the NKs started crossing the bridge, these guys dropped their tools and ran away. The KPA picked up the axes and caught the captain and hacked him up, and the Lueteinant hid in a ditch, across the road from the melee, but after a few hours, thr KPN found him and killed him also.
Don't touch the boats, don't touch the boys, don't touch the money, don't touch the oil. It simple, how do so many people not follow these basic rules.
I was assigned to the 82nd ABN Division, we were put on alert for 3days. And South and North Korea have been and still are in a state of war and under ceasefire since the end of open hostilities.
Here's two reaction suggestions for you two, both from TFE: "The Old Bastards - The 77th Infantry Division" a division which was stood up during WW2 that comprised entirely of draftees with the average age of 30 that became the most effective US combat force in the Pacific Theater. And "The Angels - The 11th Airborne Division" the only Airborne Division in the Pacific Theater and is credited with the most perfect airborne operation, ever, for their raid of the Los Banos internment camp.
What's really sad is one of the 2 Americans that was killed was tortured for over an hour until he finally succumbed to his injuries in a ditch out of sight from the rest of the allied troops.....
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I'm an American who's 66 and was a musician for years and didn't want or think about anything but music, the easy life and generally a thought about only ME. There's guys like this have knowledge and humor to prove their point
“Det Cord” ( used with explosive in the military ) is cheap, and is how the U.S. military takes down a tree. With that in mind; we ( USA ) could’ve wrapped the tree’s trunk with some Det Cord and dropped that tree. It would’ve happened fast and relatively quiet. This mean this who,e incident was a show of force from both sides. It also showed how stupid and unknowing the isolation of North Korea was. Most countries would have known that the Americans could and would react with overwhelming force!
Now that you mentioned it, do you think if the Brits would've done something if they were in that position instead of the Americans where 2 of their soldiers taken out.
as to why it took the North Koreans nearly starting an all out war with America before they finally agreed to split the jsa. I’d wager it all pretty much came down to pride, as to the leaders simply agreeing to split the jsa would’ve been no different then surrendering without a fight which would’ve been seen by their people and their rivals as a sign of weakness and enough of a reason to have said leaders forcibly removed.
The tree started it, but when it was escalated to American deaths we decided "we can play the escalation game too, but we'll do it better" just like America always does. I'm not saying it's right, but it IS what will likely always happen.
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They don't really have any useful nukes now. Their rockets don't work and they don't have any air-dropped variants. Best they could do is drive one to the border in a truck. They could foolishly start something, but after the first one malfunctions the game is still on.
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Paul Bunyan is a big thing in Michigan too? I'm from Minnesota, we have a park for him and his massive blue ox! You sure you don't have your states mixed up here?
@jrolladarksine8551 I haven't heard about paul bunyan since I was I was young. And I live in arizona. So I have a genuine question,might be stupid but was paul bunyan a real person? I mean since yall named a park after him.???
@Ennoenno02 well considering Paul bunyan, according to the American folklore stories, dug the grand canyon by dragging his axe, made the 10,000 lakes with his footprints, and could clear forests of trees with one swipe of his axe. Unless you believe giants used to exist here, or the gods of mythology were real, it's hard to claim the myths are real. However, initial logger stories were about a 7 foot tall, extremely strong lumberjack who could be a real person. I don't believe it's ever been proven, but he has been linked to a French Canadian lumberjack in the Midwest area.
@Ennoenno02 I'm so sick of comments being censored for no reason on UA-cam.. Take 2, put simply... The initial stories were from loggers about a 7 foot tall and extremely strong lumberjack. Believable and probably real. The folklore however, unless you believe in giants, is impossible to believe. He dug the grand canyon by dragging his axe, could cut trees with 1 swing, his footprints made the 10,000 lakes, and pretty sure I remember a story about him making the Mississippi River.
@jrolladarksine8551 Yeah I don't know wassup with censorship. Sorry. But yeah now I remember hearing those stories. I mean the first part sounds believable. 7 foot and can cut trees. The other part with the grand canyon, lake, and the Mississippi River ehhh idk. It's a great story for the kids around a campfire tho.
You asked for some suggestions. You should take a look at the group home free singing God bless the USA or Max Mclean recites the decoration of independence.
1:00 That's not communism. N Korea broke from Marxism-Leninism in the 1970s and adopted the Juche ideology, which they declared distinct. North Korea is a totalitarian regime whose leader considers himself a Demi-God. Fat Electrician: "I'm just going to respond by saying that's not real capitalism." Of course you will, because you have absolutely no idea what you're talking about. I suggest reading Marx, if you want to stop embarrassing yourself on the topic.
@@acy0029 Tell me that you don't understand that FE is a foaming-at-the mouth anti-communist who regularly goes on (highly uninformed) rants about communism on his podcast.
And, tbh, No this isn't real Capitalism either (USA) this is - or rather, has morphed into something that is both Laissez-faire capitalism & Crony Capitalism. Or, maybe a bit of both w/ the crony portion being mainly, on the Republikkklan's part (with, maybe 10% of the D's joining in).
Great not enough war and conflict and negativity in the world. Why not do positive videos? On pleasant subject matter? Not fighting, war, guns , killing, and strife.
The reason things are crappy today is entirely because people didn't study international failures of the past. It's extremely important to remember this stuff so it doesn't happen again down the line. If portraying these events in a lighthearted way helps people remember them then so be it.
What's wrong with history? Good or bad, it should be told. At least someone is telling it in an entertaining way that people enjoy and are learning from. If we don't learn from it, we're doomed to repeat it. Which is part of the worlds problem today, people like you who want to ignore and forget history. So here's a thought. It may be tough to follow, so reread it if you get lost along the way. So here we go; If you don't like something, much like you do with history, ignore it and move on.
It wasn't about a tree, but about 2 Americans killed. We, as Americans, usually don't treat our military people as expendable. They are us.
Couldn’t have said it better
Well said 👏 the show of force was because of the two soldiers, taking the tree down was a middle finger to North Korea
Precisely, I don't think enough was done. Two Americans were unjustly killed.
Yeah. After listening to this video the first time with Nick, I looked up the incident online. It was absolutely brutal what the North Koreans did to those two American Officers. In earlier times, that alone would have been enough provocation to start a war. Instead America showed great restraint, while still giving North Korea a black eye and a reminder about FAFO.
Well said!
I was indirectly involved in this. The MPs came to town and herded us on cattle cars and forced us to return to our barracks. The immediately gave us our orders and told to pack our duffle bags. We were headed to Korea. We were told N. Korea shot and killed 3 of our officers on the DMZ. They loaded us up on busses to ship us to where the planes were waiting to take us to Korea. However, before we reached the planes N. Korea apologized and we returned to our barracks. Although, we were confined to quarters in case N. Korea did something else stupid. About 10-15 soldiers went AWOL and bcuz it was a time of war they were picked up and went to prison for desertion.
Wow, it's amazing to hear this first hand! Thank you so much! And really, this was about those 2 American soldiers that died. Bless you ❤
Did you ever contact The Fat Electrician after this video?
Good old cattle cars. In 2000, i did my MOS school for the Marines down at Fort LeonardWood army base. At that point we were Marines but not considered Fleet Marines, still students. So they hauled us around in those cattle cars everywhere because we weren't allowed to have personal vehicles yet. It was actually kind of fun, most of the fellas just sang songs the whole way there and back. They still did the Marine Corps military police and motor T school down there at the time. Not sure about today
Here's the great thing about "To finish the work left unfinished" because it can mean, cutting down the tree, orrrr it can mean finishing the Korean war which is technically on pause for eternity.
Yes the tree, but it was about two American soldiers that were killed, because of a tree. Soldiers first! 🇺🇸
None of this was about a tree. It was over 2 dead Americans and delivering a response over their deaths without actually starting a war.
So the fact they were killed trying to take down the tree means nothing in your head for some reason
the tree is what started it lol so yeah it's about a tree
It's not about the tree, it's the fact 2 Americans lost their lives, and im sorry, you're not gonna tell America what it can and cant do.
In 1953, it took the North Koreans months to decide what size table would be used for the peace talks.
No, this was making a POINT. It was & wasn't over a tree. N.Korea boy, and I MEAN BOY, got a 'tude & went too far trying to prove a different, but similar point. But they didn't have the ability to back it up, USA did. If you guys haven't done the The Infamous Eager Beavers & Their Custom B17 Bomber - Old 666 you should, but it is his longest one I'm aware of (on his channel) 35:09, but it is very good as is the Wake Island one, and the Jake McNasty Anti-hero one. all by TFE.
North Korea killed 2 American service men. The world's largest glass parking area was an option.
I was there, the MPs escorted some Korean workers to trim the tree because some of the branches were blocking the view to the guard post at the bridge. The guard post the bridge and another guard post, the US MPs escorted the Korean civilian workers to trim the tree, not to cut it down, and North Koreans got upset about that and attacked them, a few days later, it was decided to cut the whole tree down, and we were alert. We were in our positions with weapons loaded, and the engineers and the infantry in , cut the tree down, and that’s when everything was divided in half .
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Your submission is what we learned when running a courier to the DMZ.
It started out as a tree, then 2 unarmed NATO peacekeeping personnel were killed who just happened to be US service personnel for supervising a tree trimming work detail by North Korean soldiers with clubs who beat them to death… simple facts - 2 human beings lost their lives who definitely were someone’s sons they possibly could have been someone’s brothers or they might even have had children of their own… Simple unanswerable question - what is a human life worth? To their parents? To their siblings? To their children? The value of everything they might have been able to accomplish throughout their lives… that’s what a lot of us US citizens think and feel about our service personnel… They’re not just some people… they are us. And a lot of people in the US even feel that way about non-US citizens who lose their lives in incredibly horrific situations. We don’t want to rule the world, we don’t want to take away anyone’s individuality, but we do want you to have long, happy, prosperous and productive lives. We would love to meet as many of you as we possibly can because the more we see the more we realize, WE ARE ALL just people trying to make a better life for our children without being a detriment to anyone around us.
From my google search, NK wouldn't have nuked back then:
"North Korea's nuclear weapons program dates back to the 1980s. Focusing on practical uses of nuclear energy and the completion of a nuclear weapon development system, North Korea began to operate facilities for uranium fabrication and conversion, and conducted high-explosive detonation tests."
The response was because 2 American soildiers were killed,,, fuck the tree.
The operation wasn't just about the tree, or the officers who were killed; Pentagon brass believed that if we sent another detail to remove the tree, the KPA would use the incident as a pretext to invade S. Korea, hence the shiw of force. In addition to all of the aforementioned operations going on, 12 C-130 cargo planes were sitting on the runway at Osun airbase, in Japan, with their engines turning so they were ready to take off immediately if the word was given. They were loaded with enough supplies to run ab infantry division for 30 days. The choice of the C-130s being significant because they can drop their loads without landing via Low Altitude Parachute Extraction Systems (LAPES) and immediately fly away to be reloaded. What TFE didn't mention was that the American officers were hacked to death by the KPA. Only five of the people in the work detail were assigned to cutting down the tree and they were civilians. As soon as the NKs started crossing the bridge, these guys dropped their tools and ran away. The KPA picked up the axes and caught the captain and hacked him up, and the Lueteinant hid in a ditch, across the road from the melee, but after a few hours, thr KPN found him and killed him also.
Don't touch the boats, don't touch the boys, don't touch the money, don't touch the oil. It simple, how do so many people not follow these basic rules.
you can touch the drones, though, oddly enough. no one cares about that.
It's all about 2 Americans got killed by North Korea
We do this all over a tree. Imagine how serious we get over something really serious. The two Americans who were killed made it a serious thing.
It wasn't just a tree, they killed two of our soldiers.
I was assigned to the 82nd ABN Division, we were put on alert for 3days. And South and North Korea have been and still are in a state of war and under ceasefire since the end of open hostilities.
Here's two reaction suggestions for you two, both from TFE:
"The Old Bastards - The 77th Infantry Division" a division which was stood up during WW2 that comprised entirely of draftees with the average age of 30 that became the most effective US combat force in the Pacific Theater.
And "The Angels - The 11th Airborne Division" the only Airborne Division in the Pacific Theater and is credited with the most perfect airborne operation, ever, for their raid of the Los Banos internment camp.
The village at the DMZ is Panmunjeom, not "Poonjong"
What's really sad is one of the 2 Americans that was killed was tortured for over an hour until he finally succumbed to his injuries in a ditch out of sight from the rest of the allied troops.....
The tree also created a blind spot from which the North Koreans could launch small guerilla attacks from... it wasnt about landscaping.
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We're all lucky this one didn't get out of hand. Wars have started for less.
I'm an American who's 66 and was a musician for years and didn't want or think about anything but music, the easy life and generally a thought about only ME. There's guys like this have knowledge and humor to prove their point
“Det Cord” ( used with explosive in the military ) is cheap, and is how the U.S. military takes down a tree. With that in mind; we ( USA ) could’ve wrapped the tree’s trunk with some Det Cord and dropped that tree. It would’ve happened fast and relatively quiet. This mean this who,e incident was a show of force from both sides. It also showed how stupid and unknowing the isolation of North Korea was. Most countries would have known that the Americans could and would react with overwhelming force!
@13:20 that escalated quickly
Good reaction guys. 👍
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Now that you mentioned it, do you think if the Brits would've done something if they were in that position instead of the Americans where 2 of their soldiers taken out.
Now I'm curious, I wanna know what they'd do.
as to why it took the North Koreans nearly starting an all out war with America before they finally agreed to split the jsa. I’d wager it all pretty much came down to pride, as to the leaders simply agreeing to split the jsa would’ve been no different then surrendering without a fight which would’ve been seen by their people and their rivals as a sign of weakness and enough of a reason to have said leaders forcibly removed.
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The tree started it, but when it was escalated to American deaths we decided "we can play the escalation game too, but we'll do it better" just like America always does. I'm not saying it's right, but it IS what will likely always happen.
Great vid! Do more Fat Electrion
I live in America and we don't play
N. Korea didn't have nukes back then
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North Korea didn't have nukes back then I believe.
They don't really have any useful nukes now. Their rockets don't work and they don't have any air-dropped variants. Best they could do is drive one to the border in a truck. They could foolishly start something, but after the first one malfunctions the game is still on.
North Korea didn't have nukes then.
N.Koreans have tried to drag S.Korean troops out of those blue bldgs and in prison them in N.Korea.
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Of course a Michigan man would name it operation Paul Bunyan.
Paul Bunyan is a big thing in Michigan too? I'm from Minnesota, we have a park for him and his massive blue ox! You sure you don't have your states mixed up here?
@jrolladarksine8551 I haven't heard about paul bunyan since I was I was young. And I live in arizona. So I have a genuine question,might be stupid but was paul bunyan a real person? I mean since yall named a park after him.???
@Ennoenno02 well considering Paul bunyan, according to the American folklore stories, dug the grand canyon by dragging his axe, made the 10,000 lakes with his footprints, and could clear forests of trees with one swipe of his axe. Unless you believe giants used to exist here, or the gods of mythology were real, it's hard to claim the myths are real.
However, initial logger stories were about a 7 foot tall, extremely strong lumberjack who could be a real person. I don't believe it's ever been proven, but he has been linked to a French Canadian lumberjack in the Midwest area.
@Ennoenno02 I'm so sick of comments being censored for no reason on UA-cam.. Take 2, put simply...
The initial stories were from loggers about a 7 foot tall and extremely strong lumberjack. Believable and probably real.
The folklore however, unless you believe in giants, is impossible to believe. He dug the grand canyon by dragging his axe, could cut trees with 1 swing, his footprints made the 10,000 lakes, and pretty sure I remember a story about him making the Mississippi River.
@jrolladarksine8551 Yeah I don't know wassup with censorship. Sorry. But yeah now I remember hearing those stories. I mean the first part sounds believable. 7 foot and can cut trees. The other part with the grand canyon, lake, and the Mississippi River ehhh idk. It's a great story for the kids around a campfire tho.
No no no its not because of a tree, it's because Americans died over a tree.
could not happen because north Korea do not have nukes
You asked for some suggestions. You should take a look at the group home free singing God bless the USA or Max Mclean recites the decoration of independence.
That tree would have been planted before the N Korean leader was born,so he couldn't have planted it.
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Gerald Ford was the real crook.
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You are Clueless about it smh lol
1:00 That's not communism. N Korea broke from Marxism-Leninism in the 1970s and adopted the Juche ideology, which they declared distinct. North Korea is a totalitarian regime whose leader considers himself a Demi-God. Fat Electrician: "I'm just going to respond by saying that's not real capitalism." Of course you will, because you have absolutely no idea what you're talking about. I suggest reading Marx, if you want to stop embarrassing yourself on the topic.
BWAHAHAHAHAHA!!!!!! Tell me you don't understand irony without telling me you don't understand irony. DERPY DERP.
@@acy0029 Tell me that you don't understand that FE is a foaming-at-the mouth anti-communist who regularly goes on (highly uninformed) rants about communism on his podcast.
lol your the retarded key board warrior in the skit. Come on say Buhhh!! 😂😂😂
And, tbh, No this isn't real Capitalism either (USA) this is - or rather, has morphed into something that is both Laissez-faire capitalism & Crony Capitalism. Or, maybe a bit of both w/ the crony portion being mainly, on the Republikkklan's part (with, maybe 10% of the D's joining in).
Oh hey, found the obligatory keyboard warrior simping for commies lol
Great not enough war and conflict and negativity in the world. Why not do positive videos? On pleasant subject matter? Not fighting, war, guns , killing, and strife.
The reason things are crappy today is entirely because people didn't study international failures of the past. It's extremely important to remember this stuff so it doesn't happen again down the line. If portraying these events in a lighthearted way helps people remember them then so be it.
People like you who want to bury their heads in the sand while the world burns around them are exactly why the world is in such a sorry state.
What's wrong with history? Good or bad, it should be told. At least someone is telling it in an entertaining way that people enjoy and are learning from. If we don't learn from it, we're doomed to repeat it. Which is part of the worlds problem today, people like you who want to ignore and forget history. So here's a thought. It may be tough to follow, so reread it if you get lost along the way. So here we go; If you don't like something, much like you do with history, ignore it and move on.