I`ve had mine for about month now. Mike you guys should be proud of this weapon. It is a beauty and the action is greasy smooth. You guys hit this one out of the park !
Ok, people, before you go all Negative Nancy about this particular 1887 being made in China, you need to realize that there has already been an 1887 in Cimarron's catalog for awhile now. The current one is made in Italy and most of you that are complaining about the new 1887 being made in China are also the same people bitching and moaning about the price of the Italian-made 1887s. Cimarron has simply recognized that there is a demand for the 1887 shotgun, but a large share of the customer base cannot, or will not, pay the price for the more expensive Italian-made gun, so they are now producing an 1887 option that is more affordable, yet still quality, so that more of us can afford to buy one.
Totally right, Mr. Harvey. You have a winner! Just picked mine up after watching this. It is top shelf. My LGS has sold 16 since ShotShow 2024. I have ab IAC that I bought when they started importing them and it has had a lot of work on it. My Cimarron beats it hands down with NO work done to it!
@@Jerseyhighlander Have you looked at a Remington made in the 21st century? borderline unusable garbage with a surface finish worse than my pellet guns. Made in America does not always equal made good. It usually equals the opposite from my experiences.
Now don't get me wrong. I'm glad you are bringing this shotgun to market and in fact I have one on layaway right now. However I have to ask, when is the 10 gauge coming or was that abandoned? I haven't seen any other models either. Just the basic 12 gauge with a fixed choke.
I just bought and picked this up about a week ago and you guys did well. Thanks for making sure the quality was where it should be because you brought to market a affordable, working 1887. I did loctite the screws but thats me. But not a failure. Unlike everyone else here i dont give a dang what country its from as long as it safe and works. This does both.
I have an original 1887 made in 1890, I personally would love one of these, not just to compare, but to give my old girl a break. Lol. Will this one accept modern 2-3/4" shells or are we still talking 2-1/2 - 2-5/8"? Honestly I would probably still shoot my 2-1/2" black powder shells in it, but it would be nice to have options.
I just bought this gun a few hours ago at Ace Hardware in Blue Ridge GA. (the last one) I can't wait to shoot it. It appears to be a very well made, solid gun.
Greetings from Indiana! I own an original 1887 Winchester lever-action shotgun - amazingly beautiful piece and well taken care of… inherited from father while brother inherited the first browning lmao - dad knew his guns to keep for being the most wanted and the best thing to hand down. OK now; in my original Winchester repeater lever-action: what shells are the best option to use for fun shooting, then perhaps the best shells for shooting the walking dead sir! Gracias or thanks Mike Harvey as us Americans say😇
Mr. Harvey, thank you for recrafting this superb old & time-honored lever shotgun, I adore mine. I can't wait to purchase one of your CFA M-1887, as they are excellent SASS-CAS scatterguns. Much appreciated, sir. - mkh, SASS 6476-P
Did you have the throw adjusted to more easily accept 2 3/4" shells? Ive got one from China several years back, gotta run her pretty hard and she still hangs up a little at the chamber cause the throw is wrong. Great gun, but she feeds 2 1/4" very well 2 1/2" not bad but 2 3/4" is usually a fight. Improved modified is the choke i have on my 12, and she holds a nice pattern about the size of a 5 gallon bucket at 40 yards even with factory loads, they just dont load very easy.
Didn’t make 10 gauge 1887 The 10 gauge was made in 1901 and were referred to as the 1901 I believe from memory reading the Winchester book, I had a original 1887 they weren’t marked 12 gauge because only made in 12 gauge until they made both guns, should have never sold that gun or book 😢
Hello. I have a slightly strange question on the topic of the video - due to what the Henry bracket of this Winchester is held in a horizontal position and does not fall, and due to what it is held in a vertical position, without trying to return to the horizontal? In the case of the model 1866, I understood the reason when I saw the rifle in the section - the bracket in the receiver has a continuation, clinging to the elements of the system and activating it, but here the diagram shows that the bracket is not connected to the elements of the shotgun inside in such a way that it does not fall and seems to levitate in the air. But this is a key question without which it is not clear how the locking the barrel bore
Hoping for a decent price tag on these. I have had one of each other 87s that have been out. Some were junk. Some were okay. Been wanting to get one again.
cimarron website has a dead link going to the 1887, so should we assume the chiappa version is discontinued? it would be nice to find a price for the new one. very interested
@@cimarronFA I hope you get more in soon because I desperately need one for myself. And Cimmaron PLEASE PLEASE FOLLOW THROUGH ON YOUR PLANS TO MAKE THE TEN GAUGE! I've already got a hundred (give or take about a dozen) once fired 2 7/8" hulls to load up when I get one.
I have the double barrel 1878 hammer shotgun I’ve had lots of fun with it I even used it for busting clay pigeons with it besides cowboy action shooting I also use two Cimarron 1873 engraved revolvers for cowboy action shoots
Dont get me wrong but i own a original with a Norinco or some kind a aftermarket barrel on it and that gun is 100% reliable loads cycles ejects like a dream,i am pretty good with gun i think but i spend hours on the extractors (2th model) filing welding and filing them down and improving them......One u understand how a 1887 works u can make a old worn gun as new.. Weld up the locking surfaces make the lifter go down by welding the the lever,get new a new custom made lever pin to remove all play.........From the most worn gun i can make a real solid shooter thats better then most out of the box guns. I hope the Chimarron parts are a 100% copie of the originals so i can finaly get some decent fitting wood and other parts like firing pins and extractors..
Why? So it can cost 300 more bucks? At that point I’d just buy an Italian reproduction cuz frankly, American made means very little now. We USED to make quality firearms, now I refuse to buy any American made firearm until it’s been on the market for at least 5 years. I’ve lost trust in most American firearms companies, just look at how much trouble they had creating AK’s. Hell look at Remington, fresh out of bankruptcy AGAIN and they are already back to the same BS quality standards they set back in 2007
For those of you complaining about the gun being made in China, and wanting them made in the US specifically, you've got realize the cost to have it made here would be ASTRONOMICAL; the Chiappa 1887 is something like $1,400 - $1,600 brand new, and they're made in Italy........having them made in the US would be exponentially more expensive than the Italian guns and the entire plan would be DOA. Don't buy one if you're that upset over where they're made (as you moan and groan while watching his UA-cam video on your Chineses made tv's, phones, or computers) however at the same time don't give the owner grief over bringing you a nicely made shotgun at an affordable price point. Me myself and I however look forward to purchasing one just as soon as factually possible!
@@katelynneshouse2834 Hello! You can call us up at 830 997 9090 and one of our representatives can point you to a distributor that is carrying it. Thanks for chiming in with insight that most consumers don't consider. We appreciate that!
@@ismackinacnorth3790 which is fine because that's your prerogative......but Henry Firearms has nothing to do with this post as they neither make nor sell a reproduction Winchester 1887. Purchasing an 1887 however is exactly what this post IS about.
If you write scripts for your content will make the content 100 times better. I know it’s extra work but it will pay off in the end product. Loving your content
A replica I can afford. An American company selling foreign made products is not as bad as a foreign company selling American made products. How many of you drive Toyota? You think it’s American because it’s made here? It’s a Japanese company. Also, you might be surprised where your Milwaukee power tools and your iPhone are made.
Ill take one made in Timbuktu if its a good gun for a good price. That's what's most important to me. I'd love made in USA but I bought a fishing rod that was just that, paid premium price for it too, and the damn thing was piece of garbage. So what's the price for a short barrel ten gauge and how can I get you my money???
American companies are geared up to produce AR-15’s, 1911’s, striker fired pistols and not much else. Most of them are frankly lackluster when they attempt to produce anything else
*You just had Mike say you could.* *Do you think he doesn't care about his product, or that he's full of shit?* *The man knows what he's doing, and you can trust his word.*
You almost had me SOLD!... Right up to the point where you said "CHINA"!!.... I WILL NOT SUPPORT THE COMMUNIST PARTY!... I think that's a very poor business decision... Just saying.... Damn.....
Cuz people would bitch about the price and it’d be in direct competition with the Italian made versions. (Which I can practically guarantee would be of higher quality)
Nope, not happening. Made in China... automatic disqualifier, period, the end. A Winchester original, an American icon, Made in Cheeper, what a disgrace! And another thing, that wood looks like crap. Might as well be plastic, cause it sure as hell doesn't look like wood.
That “American icon” you speak of hasn’t produced a rifle in the US since 2006. And they are better off for it, Miroku made Model 70’s are far FAR better than anything made in New Haven post-64. Not that it matters with this particular shotgun, go buy the Italian version if you don’t want it made in China.
I`ve had mine for about month now. Mike you guys should be proud of this weapon. It is a beauty and the action is greasy smooth. You guys hit this one out of the park !
A remake of the Winchester 1897 is on my prayers every Sunday Mr. Harvey. Please bring it back.
Ok, people, before you go all Negative Nancy about this particular 1887 being made in China, you need to realize that there has already been an 1887 in Cimarron's catalog for awhile now.
The current one is made in Italy and most of you that are complaining about the new 1887 being made in China are also the same people bitching and moaning about the price of the Italian-made 1887s.
Cimarron has simply recognized that there is a demand for the 1887 shotgun, but a large share of the customer base cannot, or will not, pay the price for the more expensive Italian-made gun, so they are now producing an 1887 option that is more affordable, yet still quality, so that more of us can afford to buy one.
Spot on. I will buy one and I hate china. But Cimarron is an American company so the profits stay here.
Thank you. Seen so many frankly stupid comments talking about “producing it in MERICA”
China steel is better than Italian steel
Totally right, Mr. Harvey. You have a winner! Just picked mine up after watching this. It is top shelf. My LGS has sold 16 since ShotShow 2024. I have ab IAC that I bought when they started importing them and it has had a lot of work on it. My Cimarron beats it hands down with NO work done to it!
I absolutely love mine. This is an amazing Shotgun. It functions perfectly, Butter smooth.
Mr. Harvey, Looks great...You and your family have a blessed week..
This why I love Cimarron. Always trying for authenticity. I’ll definitely be getting one.
How is a remake of a Winchester Made in Cheeper, authentic?
@@Jerseyhighlander they try to replica all the markings and correct dimensions. Lots of replicas out there are not even close.
@@Jerseyhighlander Have you looked at a Remington made in the 21st century? borderline unusable garbage with a surface finish worse than my pellet guns.
Made in America does not always equal made good. It usually equals the opposite from my experiences.
Now don't get me wrong. I'm glad you are bringing this shotgun to market and in fact I have one on layaway right now. However I have to ask, when is the 10 gauge coming or was that abandoned? I haven't seen any other models either. Just the basic 12 gauge with a fixed choke.
I just bought and picked this up about a week ago and you guys did well. Thanks for making sure the quality was where it should be because you brought to market a affordable, working 1887. I did loctite the screws but thats me. But not a failure. Unlike everyone else here i dont give a dang what country its from as long as it safe and works. This does both.
Thank you Valerie K at Cimarron! You’ve been very helpful, prompt and insightful getting me the information on this latest offering.
I have an original 1887 made in 1890, I personally would love one of these, not just to compare, but to give my old girl a break. Lol. Will this one accept modern 2-3/4" shells or are we still talking 2-1/2 - 2-5/8"? Honestly I would probably still shoot my 2-1/2" black powder shells in it, but it would be nice to have options.
As someone who had the PW-87 copy, this is something I've been looking forward to.
is the pw87 any good
@app_manifestation if you don't mind having to pay a gunsmith to fix it. They shoot but it's not going to be a smooth and pleasant experience.
I just bought this gun a few hours ago at Ace Hardware in Blue Ridge GA. (the last one) I can't wait to shoot it. It appears to be a very well made, solid gun.
Thank you Mr Harvey.
Greetings from Indiana!
I own an original 1887 Winchester lever-action shotgun - amazingly beautiful piece and well taken care of… inherited from father while brother inherited the first browning lmao - dad knew his guns to keep for being the most wanted and the best thing to hand down. OK now; in my original Winchester repeater lever-action: what shells are the best option to use for fun shooting, then perhaps the best shells for shooting the walking dead sir! Gracias or thanks Mike Harvey as us Americans say😇
Mr. Harvey, thank you for recrafting this superb old & time-honored lever shotgun, I adore mine. I can't wait to purchase one of your CFA M-1887, as they are excellent SASS-CAS scatterguns. Much appreciated, sir. - mkh, SASS 6476-P
Wooooow!!!! Well i definitely gotta get one of these!!!
Sharp lookin. Im interested. Thank you for sharing. Much appreciated.
*10 GA., now that's Very Cool!*
*Thumbs up # 97*
Did you have the throw adjusted to more easily accept 2 3/4" shells? Ive got one from China several years back, gotta run her pretty hard and she still hangs up a little at the chamber cause the throw is wrong. Great gun, but she feeds 2 1/4" very well 2 1/2" not bad but 2 3/4" is usually a fight. Improved modified is the choke i have on my 12, and she holds a nice pattern about the size of a 5 gallon bucket at 40 yards even with factory loads, they just dont load very easy.
Where can I get one of these? Did they ever make the 10 gauge? I can't find any reviews or anything.
I was wondering that also
Didn’t make 10 gauge 1887
The 10 gauge was made in 1901 and were referred to as the 1901 I believe from memory reading the Winchester book, I had a original 1887 they weren’t marked 12 gauge because only made in 12 gauge until they made both guns, should have never sold that gun or book 😢
Hello. I have a slightly strange question on the topic of the video - due to what the Henry bracket of this Winchester is held in a horizontal position and does not fall, and due to what it is held in a vertical position, without trying to return to the horizontal? In the case of the model 1866, I understood the reason when I saw the rifle in the section - the bracket in the receiver has a continuation, clinging to the elements of the system and activating it, but here the diagram shows that the bracket is not connected to the elements of the shotgun inside in such a way that it does not fall and seems to levitate in the air. But this is a key question without which it is not clear how the locking the barrel bore
Love the 10ga
I can't wait to get mine this year!
Very cool!
That looks like a really nice shotgun I need to get one for the channel
Hoping for a decent price tag on these. I have had one of each other 87s that have been out. Some were junk. Some were okay. Been wanting to get one again.
Wooow i like cimarron gun product
Pretty smart. I own an original 1901 with its barrel shortened to 20 inches many years ago. Its buckshot handload is inspiring!
cimarron website has a dead link going to the 1887, so should we assume the chiappa version is discontinued? it would be nice to find a price for the new one. very interested
Hello. They are currently out of stock but not discontinued. Thanks!
@@cimarronFA I hope you get more in soon because I desperately need one for myself. And Cimmaron PLEASE PLEASE FOLLOW THROUGH ON YOUR PLANS TO MAKE THE TEN GAUGE! I've already got a hundred (give or take about a dozen) once fired 2 7/8" hulls to load up when I get one.
I have the double barrel 1878 hammer shotgun I’ve had lots of fun with it I even used it for busting clay pigeons with it besides cowboy action shooting I also use two Cimarron 1873 engraved revolvers for cowboy action shoots
Made a back order on the longer barreled style. None were made or will be made
love Cimarron products .
just bought one of these made by you guys
Can these shoot Mini shells
Okay. Fine. However, when you going to have made any large framed Merwin Hulbert and Forearm & Wadsworth revolvers?
I will be very interested if they cycle and function better than the other chinese copies. A good 1897 is needed on the market.
It all fell through nothing they promised came to pass
@@stickstixk3707 what fell through? the entire project?
@@app_manifestation basically for the most part
Not an imposter? I dunno Mike, thought I saw those CGI hands of yours go right thru that shotgun :)
Thats an awesome lever gun ! I really love my Cimarron 72 opentop by the way !
I have one too. Absolutely love it!!
@@stevebuckskinner5482 Awesome !!
Is it a two and a half inch or two and three quarter ?
I want one!
will this also be available in 20 gauge as well?
I want one bad
10 gauge? Chinese-made or not, I would like one.
price?
I want that 10ga
Wonder if has the two shot loading mechanism for SASS????
Dont get me wrong but i own a original with a Norinco or some kind a aftermarket barrel on it and that gun is 100% reliable loads cycles ejects like a dream,i am pretty good with gun i think but i spend hours on the extractors (2th model) filing welding and filing them down and improving them......One u understand how a 1887 works u can make a old worn gun as new..
Weld up the locking surfaces make the lifter go down by welding the the lever,get new a new custom made lever pin to remove all play.........From the most worn gun i can make a real solid shooter thats better then most out of the box guns.
I hope the Chimarron parts are a 100% copie of the originals so i can finaly get some decent fitting wood and other parts like firing pins and extractors..
Mine works perfect. Glad I got the Cimarron. China steel is better quality than Italian steel
Would like a 10 gauge.
That's why our country is in a state that it is now how about making a product in the USA like it used to be is that a relying on a foreign country
He had me interested until 1:13 where he mentioned where it was made, made this comment and left. Sorry Mike not interested!
One word, labor cost
Why? So it can cost 300 more bucks? At that point I’d just buy an Italian reproduction cuz frankly, American made means very little now. We USED to make quality firearms, now I refuse to buy any American made firearm until it’s been on the market for at least 5 years.
I’ve lost trust in most American firearms companies, just look at how much trouble they had creating AK’s. Hell look at Remington, fresh out of bankruptcy AGAIN and they are already back to the same BS quality standards they set back in 2007
I'd gladly.pay more if this was made in the US
For those of you complaining about the gun being made in China, and wanting them made in the US specifically, you've got realize the cost to have it made here would be ASTRONOMICAL; the Chiappa 1887 is something like $1,400 - $1,600 brand new, and they're made in Italy........having them made in the US would be exponentially more expensive than the Italian guns and the entire plan would be DOA.
Don't buy one if you're that upset over where they're made (as you moan and groan while watching his UA-cam video on your Chineses made tv's, phones, or computers) however at the same time don't give the owner grief over bringing you a nicely made shotgun at an affordable price point.
Me myself and I however look forward to purchasing one just as soon as factually possible!
Thank you.
@@cimarronFA Where and when may I sign up to purchase one of these 1887's once they've arrived?
@@katelynneshouse2834 Hello! You can call us up at 830 997 9090 and one of our representatives can point you to a distributor that is carrying it. Thanks for chiming in with insight that most consumers don't consider. We appreciate that!
@@cimarronFA my pleasure, and thank you for the response!
@@ismackinacnorth3790 which is fine because that's your prerogative......but Henry Firearms has nothing to do with this post as they neither make nor sell a reproduction Winchester 1887.
Purchasing an 1887 however is exactly what this post IS about.
If you write scripts for your content will make the content 100 times better. I know it’s extra work but it will pay off in the end product. Loving your content
You should check Turkey for sourcing this gun
A replica I can afford. An American company selling foreign made products is not as bad as a foreign company selling American made products. How many of you drive Toyota? You think it’s American because it’s made here? It’s a Japanese company. Also, you might be surprised where your Milwaukee power tools and your iPhone are made.
Wont buy a gun from China, Sad that you have gone to them for guns , I will move to Henry's made in the usa
Ill take one made in Timbuktu if its a good gun for a good price. That's what's most important to me. I'd love made in USA but I bought a fishing rod that was just that, paid premium price for it too, and the damn thing was piece of garbage.
So what's the price for a short barrel ten gauge and how can I get you my money???
Trump would tell China to get lost
I definitely miss Trump.
Yep he would, that is why all his merch was made there, and why his kids are getting patented in China for their products.
Why isn’t there a company in America that can make these guns?
American companies are geared up to produce AR-15’s, 1911’s, striker fired pistols and not much else. Most of them are frankly lackluster when they attempt to produce anything else
You lost me at Made in China, sorry but I just won't go there.
What about the 30in barrel one? Also why comie china man?
Bryce is cute ☺️
I would not want to face a grizzly with a Chinese gun!!!!!! 💀
LOL They are made in Italy not China
*You just had Mike say you could.*
*Do you think he doesn't care about his product, or that he's full of shit?*
*The man knows what he's doing, and you can trust his word.*
@@theTrueOverlord did you not watch the video? Not only are they made in China, he had to convince them to make a decent product. No thanks.
@@theTrueOverlord China dude. Listen to what he said.
Maybe a panda bear? Lol
Made in CHina?? I will not Buy!!!
China ? No thank you !
Made in China is definitely a deal breaker for me. I do not buy anything made in China. Shame on you Mike!!! I'll stick with Henry.
Never China!
Never buying anything from China if at all possible. Sorry but a hard pass ....
Made in China is definitely a deal breaker for me. Shame on you Mike. I guess I'll stick with Henry.
WHATEVER HAPPENED TO AMERICAN MADE, AMERICAN PROUD? STOP SELLING CHINESE GUNS
You almost had me SOLD!... Right up to the point where you said "CHINA"!!.... I WILL NOT SUPPORT THE COMMUNIST PARTY!... I think that's a very poor business decision... Just saying.... Damn.....
why China?
Cuz people would bitch about the price and it’d be in direct competition with the Italian made versions. (Which I can practically guarantee would be of higher quality)
And nothing you said would be made was made
Nope, not happening. Made in China... automatic disqualifier, period, the end. A Winchester original, an American icon, Made in Cheeper, what a disgrace! And another thing, that wood looks like crap. Might as well be plastic, cause it sure as hell doesn't look like wood.
That “American icon” you speak of hasn’t produced a rifle in the US since 2006. And they are better off for it, Miroku made Model 70’s are far FAR better than anything made in New Haven post-64.
Not that it matters with this particular shotgun, go buy the Italian version if you don’t want it made in China.
Sweet. A cheap full length 1887 is good.