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@@thegrandnil764 That is a GREAT idea! Decentralize foo production so that every community can cultivate its own food! I definitely think we should do this! But food is not the only thing that gets delivered.
There is a similiar project in switzerland called cargo sous terrain, but on a much larger scale. It uses bigger tubes, larger vehicles and aims to connect cities and big businesses via underground transport. The lawmakers already implemented the necessary changes and many big swiss companies are invested in the project. To be fair, in siwtzerland they do have to build tunnels all the time anyway, in order to get anything anywhere.
Im sure in Switzerland, it will be built successfully. In the U.S., the Politicians will have to get their percentage of kickbacks and the Unions will spend most time on breaks so that the job goes 100 years past the time when it was supposed to be finished and several trillion over budget all on tax payers pockets
Instead of individual underground pipes going directly to each house, a much more efficient and cost-effective approach is building neighborhood distribution delivery centers. Centralizing the pipes in these centers would make it convenient for everyone to collect their deliveries by simply walking to the center.
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Yeah, I was thinking the same and when he said "my job is to seems smart in front of people who are actually smart" I went "Ah it makes sense, he'd actually be the target audience for a useless 500$ gadget like that"
And just like the idea in this video the Swiss Cargo Sous-Terrain sounds cool at first until you have a look at the realistic cost / benefit of it. Then you start seeing that just improving existing systems like rail for long-distance and shared mobility for short distances will be so much better.
A few concerns... > Rodents - What measures will be implemented to prevent them using the tunnels as their private expressway into homes & offices? > Flooding risk (depending on regional weather & topology) - What 's the primary mitigation plan for this? One potential solution would be routing pipelines above ground, but then how do we deal with pesky humans wanting to get at the items inside the pipes? > Blockages. - If/when these occur (and they will happen at some point), how quickly can they be cleared to get items flowing again?
I had an idea exactly like this when I was a little kid, and I thought it was just so genius. Only difference was my idea was on a much smaller scale, basically a pneumatic tube going from the mailbox to the inside of your house so you didn't have to leave the house to get the mail in the winter
@@Lionking-lb5gw It's more viable than the video idea. People will jam the system for others or try to send/receive drugs or animals that could die or interfere with everything.
that is exactly how it would feel i reckon lol, maybe airliners and co should offer a sleeping gas to customers on a flight and advertise it as 'feels like teleportation!'
@@JTheoryScience it would be a nightmare for the fda though lmao, stores in airports selling sleeping pills (which i think is already a thing) might sound better to them
This is an awesome thought. Lots of questions to be answered along the way (examples: what about apartments?, what happens when a robot fails?, is it secure enough for medicine and banking? is is too hot/cold/dirty for certain perishables?, how well will it scale?). It also has a ton of potential to improve our lives (less trucks clogging city streets, faster access to goods, easier returns, easier access to goods especially for the elderly and wheelchair users). Whether it actually becomes a reality or not, it's fantastic to see people punching holes to get outside the box we often get stuck in.
I think it could get very reliable, like almost no fails, and it would be such a cheap service compared to nowadays delivery system that it would have a fairly good margin to afford warranty politic. My bet is that this WILL happen, and after it starts, it will get better and better very fast. I don't know when this will happen but i believe it will.
@@haroldfarthington7492 Loss of jobs is *always* a concern. All the way back from the invention of the automobile (what about the poor stable hands?), to automation in factories (what about the tradesmen?), to the information age ("computers" used to mean people doing calculations). I will likely lose my job as a programmer because of AI at some point. All I know is there is still alot of work in this world to do. New types of jobs seem to keep springing up despite other jobs going away. I hope that trend continues as change seems to be the only constant in this world.
@@jaylucas8352 what do you mean by trillions? this won't start covering the whole new york city, it starts in a strategic town with good terrain to such thing. As any investment you need to spend some money to get it back later, after the system is built the service will be considerably cheaper and faster people will chose this service. Still not realistic soon, not even in the next 100 years probably, main reason is that it would take like 150 years to get the payback, but in the future maybe it could be good and maybe like 30 years payback or something?, either because maybe we start lacking oil, or just better machinery,/ technology. if you think with only your "todays" concepts ofc this won't work
Haha. Your comment made me realize how many people would put their dirty dishes in this thing rather than running a dishwasher, especially if they don't already have one... I guess it could be as good as a dishwasher if someone runs an Amazon style service that washes your dishes and returns them clean.
*this. dishwasher. laundry. garbage, compost, recycling. everything... imagine the boost to gifting (freecycle/free stuff on craigslist) lots of things i've wanted to get but couldn't see driving 5 miles for a $3 item*
I think this is cool in concept, but probably requires building too much infrastructure to be worth the investment. And it really only lends itself to high-density, urban environments. I think drones are a more practical solution to moving mail and deliveries around without the use of cars
They'd need air traffic controllers just for drones if everybody used them. Imagine all the drones they would need for New York City, who want's to see a drone every time they look up. Besides, they might scratch the paint on my flying car.
Damn! 1.5 years ago I came up with this vision and during Christmas drinks, I was entertaining family and friends with it. Of course I'm a mobile app developer, so didn't start anything, but wow! It's great to see it coming alive. Would love to contribute in the future
Having a tube going to every house sounds expensive, but if there would be boxes within a few hundred meters of your house, where stuff could be delivered automatically and very cheaply would be already nice. Would maybe spawn home appliance etc. rental business, when you wouldn't have to buy rarely needed items. Just rent them for a few euros a brief time and receive within an hour and return the same way.
the initial cost is crazy expensive, but the operating cost if incredibly lower to normal delivery. (not to mention that it would be faster and more realiable ).
Yeah, I think this would start out as a rich person only network, then service suburbs and neighborhoods at a front hub, and then slowly become available as a more standard option for new homes as they are being built and connected to pipe networks. One thing is certain though: they would not be readily available in rural places, which is a bummer since they’d be most useful there.
I think you would soon wish you had bigger tubes. How would you maintain them or retrieve robots when they break or run off the rails? Can you keep animals out? Could people traffic drugs via tubes? How do you increase capacity in the future? Home industry could be facilitated by these tubes too. Order some Aluminum, when it arrives, machine it into parts and send the parts to someone else, etc. The idea has merits.
they really should make the pipes split in the middle and place them under hollow sidewalks, that way, when something inevitability clogs the tube, you could easily just lift up the concrete slab from the sidewalk, unbolt the top section of the tube off and remove the clog. It's a lot more infrastructure work but you'd at least get to run water-mains, gas and electricity all in the same hole...
It's cool but not good on a small personal scale. The cost and energy required to build all the tubes with rails would be enormous. Above-ground rail for longer distances with a transition to aerial transit over short neighborhood distances would be much better. Small autonomous electric ground vehicles will soon do this same thing everywhere with no infrastructure adjustments. So this underground rail option is only good for very high frequency needs over very short distances.
Good point you could get drugs delivered too...now I'm definitely on board. In all seriousness drugs are the least concern, they are valuable enough people are happy to drive.
@@Mavrik9000Indeed, but very high frequency over short distance IS our reality. At least in (dense) cities. Basically everyone is having stuff in and out all the time, and it would dramatically increase and replace more traditional ways if this was implemented. I mean, people would have even more stuff delivered vs go and buy, you’d send stuff to other people, there would be more rental services, second hand services… Not overnight, but in the medium to long term. Today I can already see delivering vans and trucks in my street all the time… So it would pay off. My guess.
@@brunosco Imagine installing street-size sewer mains to every address with rail tracts inside them. Then add in all the intersections and switching equipment. It's an enormously complex system and prohibitively expensive. In new developments where they put multiple utilities in the same chamber or tunnel, it might be feasible, not to every location but instead only to central hub locations.
What do you think about developing this system and licencing it out to other parts of the world? Different cities might have different requirements. The physical parts of such a system could be made by any manufacturer, when it is standardized.
@@thx9977 That’s definitely one of the ways we think of getting the technology out into the world. Similar to how internet is spread, we develop the technology and others can be the one putting it in your home. It’s gonna be a massive challenge getting this everywhere the way we want it to be, but that’s just part of the fun :)
Have you guys designed any systems that’s targeting apartments/multifamily buildings? Like just for in building deliveries like a dumbwaiter lift. I live in a large apartment building and the number 1 problem we have is the overflowing packages that’s taking up all the lockers and lobby spaces. My building management had since knocked down 3 rooms and redone an office room to try to accommodate but it’s still loose packages everywhere and people’s stuff gets lost sometimes. I feel like if you guys can marketing it to luxury buildings as a storage/concierge solution. With them you can make some money to further the company and I bet they will be able to provide yall with plenty of interior design models and field data
15:46; I just wanted to say that this really does seem like a great idea and although I'm sure there's tons of hurdles, the payoffs seem worth the investments. All the best!
This kind of inferstructure is so expensive and difficult to build but it could be super economical if implimented in somewhere like new york and lasted for a long time.
I've said for a while that municipalities should be managing holes in the ground and leasing them out to various utility companies. I was mostly thinking in terms of telecommunications but small robo-trains could make sense as well.
8:00 To be fair, that multi-ton vehicle is also transporting your neighbor’s stuff, your neighborhood’s stuff, and neighborhoods on both side of yours, etc etc.
@5:41 ... I feel like he's kind of *massively* understating the gap in priority level for most people between "gee, I wish my chicken nuggets would get here a little bit faster," and "gee, I wish the street outside my house wasn't filled with the literal feces of my entire family and all our neighbors."
the system needs to be installed in a New Apartment building, with a location in the parking garage for delivery drivers to load to the individual apartments. It can then be upgraded to a city wide system. make sure the largest pizza can be delivered . 😎
I really wish these guys success, but I doubt it will work. So many potential problems: small animals, gas leaks, flooding, earthquakes causing damage to the rails, deliberate sabotage etc etc. Maybe it works on a smaller scale within commercial facilities or something like that.
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A year or two ago I saw a TikTok from what I think was one of the founders of this company talking about this idea. At the time everyone in the comments was calling this a long-shot idea that had no hope of succeeding. It's great to see that they're still around and making real progress with this.
Even if this isn't for long haul, I think its really cool. If means that a post office kind of place in an area can take deliveries and send it through a neighborhood or two (5-50 houses) its pretty cool. Apartments also feel like a good place for this (going up as well of course). Better than the front office stealing your mail...
For the first half of this video I was thinking I don't want this! I want some friction between my deciding I want something and actually buying it. For the second half where they start to consider the implications of having quick access (not necessarily buying) to stuff we want, I'm in. All those tools and equipment I have that I rarely use can be shared or rented just by putting it in a drawer. I love it!
To solve the issue of waste and things, you could have different containers for different items. A blue bin for recycling, a red bin for hazardous waste like batteries. Hell, this could replace garbage trucks - rarely do you have huge things to throw out, it’s just napkins or random bits and pieces. You could have a bin just like a trash can but send it away in the tube and it goes right to a garbage center
I could see this being a feasible option for eco new build: if the buildings deal with their own graywater, you could use this to transport the "output" of composting toilets to a central facility. That way you'd only need to install the same number of pipes as a normal building. And yeah, I would love to live in a small apartment where I have access to a massive library of shared tools, instruments etc. within a few minutes. That would be awesome, and so much more sustainable!
Pump liquid is hugely energy efficient. I guess the problem is that sewage system carries low concentration (in organic matter) water. If every apartment had a Food Waste Grinder and every building a system for pre treatment, it could generate reuse water for the entire building, and let the concentrate sewage flows to a treatment plant to produce methane for electricity generation and bio fertilizer.
At first I was like, why do consumers need instant gratification for impulse purchases. Then I remembered all brick and mortar close at 11pm. My child got extremely sick at midnight the other night and the only option was a gas station or the ER for medicine...
This seems an obvious next step for delivery. I really like the idea of storing your own physical items in the "cloud" just like data, or accessing shared items almost instantly. Very cool. 😊
This is one of the most exciting videos I've seen in ages! What a brilliant idea, from such a bold and impressive little startup. If I could invest in it (or be part of it), I totally would. I really hope to see this come to life within my lifetime 😀
i feel like this is one of those very good ideas that gets a good amount of attention that will never work and people will look back at it as a fever dream.
The year is 1994, studying mech Eng, me and a friend conceptualized this exact idea. Today it might work because the issues we found are now not an issue with 30 years of tech advancement.
Awesome concept and something I would happily install at home and connect to. How would you stop people on the receiving end from sending garbage or dangerous items back through the tunnels. You could easily end up with a waste problem that then has to be addressed and issues with oversized items being jammed into it. It almost needs a sealable capsule with a sensor that has to be closed and the sensor knows its sealed it fits back through the tube. Also if you did have service pits similar to sewerage, porch pirates etc would likely start breaking into those to take stuff as well.
They have sewer pipe everywhere, it's not totally idiot proof, but close to it. We're gonna need some more plumbers though, for when the tubes get jammed.
I guess there would be some additional robots specifically designed to police and address those issues. Similar to the streets where people (police, security people, service people) deal with whatever issue arises, robots would do it in the tubes, autonomously or remotely controlled. Those problems wouldn’t appear overnight, I guess, so there would be time for such special robots to be developed and deployed alongside the main ones.
this could make food way cheaper. make it in bulk it automated kitchens then send it to 10s of thousands of homes a day with these delivery systems. Easily lowers costs by like 70-80%. No more cooking needed ever again.
The items sharing part is incredible. Also once house robots will be a thing, if you forget something at home you can just tell your robot to send it through the tube
I mean mail delivery used to be done by pneumatic tubes all throughout the city long ago, so this isn't exactly new. It was dangerous and expensive to maintain. So we got rid of that and moved to driver mail. This might be easier to maintain than the pneumatic tubes though. A tube system would be cool though, and faster.
But wouldn't be a drone based system better since there is no need for infrastructure ? Imagine having to dig up everything to put in the tube with a drone you dont need it.
@@kilian42 Except drones get attacked by birds and have trouble in inclement weather. Drones are cool, but aren't practical for deliveries, at least non consistently. That said, this system is even more impractical.
@@kilian42 safety hazard too. I've heard someone else that was doing drones commercially say they were doing well into their insurance asked "You're fly how much weight over peoples heads?"
@@kilian42Some commented here on some of the drone issues. But what about robots using the pavement? I think this exists already. Still, that wouldn’t solve the “last inch” portion, where the stuff gets into your house.
I can see it in places with proper urban density like NYC or asian cities. then have it set up like a amazon locker where you have a centralized location at your building. But setting up a input output location in every house seems far fetched.
I hate all the negativity in the comments this is genuinely a great idea and as someone who is a delivery driver I would love for this to happen it would take my job but I feel that the long term benefits of it would outweigh any cost. driving as a job is very dangerous and I’m sure there are many people who have died that could have been prevented if we had less cars on the roads and more safe methods of transportation who cares if it gets clogged every once in a while it’s better than a pile up at the intersection with three dead bodies and a child without a parent. people just don’t realize how dangerous cars are
2:09 'Moves your Brain in the right direction huh?' Like the way you put that. Sounds a lot better than... *"Thank you for helping us learn how to control your brains!!"* - Skynet -
We can’t even figure out underground powerlines in most places and they expect us to believe municipal governments will support mini subways for Amazon packages?
Maybe Bezos billions might fund these networks, would be for the public good but he would have a massive head start and recoup the costs over decades with fees
@@jackwilliamburgess the pressurized 6 inch diameter water mains or the 1.5 in diameter supply to each house… aren’t cheap and every house needs them to be a livable dwelling. Sewer is cheaper but tends to have vermin and filth and flood waters and roots growing in it… not exactly a good place for your robot to swim through with your McDonald’s order.
Very interesting idea, reminds me a little of the vacuum-tubes they used to have in offices. Wonder how they would deal with higher volumes, we only see one cart driving but what if its hundreds, how would that scale. Looking at how vulnerable trains are how you gonna prevent a nightmare gridlock underground. Also, that one delivery Van is a lot more environmentally friendly than 100+ people individually driving up to the shops and back home. The better option would be if people would walk / take the bike to the shops, but that means properly designed cities for humans instead of cars. Buying less shit would also help....
A great proving ground could be the next to last mile, connecting warehouses on the edge of major metro areas to micro distribution centers in neighborhoods. That could eventually connect to every house.
Better idea. How about forcing warehouses to have direct railway connections! Then Nationalize all the class 1 and some class 2 railroads while leaving the smaller branch lines as class 3. 98% problem solved.
How about if something toxic/combustable is spilled, or there is a fire. Or people intentionally sabotage to break. What if someone puts a garden hose into their hole. How easy to fix? Theft issues? Drone deliveries make more sense to me.
What do you guys do when a flood makes your sewer overflow? And someone creative could allready send a self destruct submarine down your sewer pipe today.... I don't see new problems that we don't allready have with the current piping. The fact that nobody blew up your local gas pipe yet doesn't mean that this new thing is more dangerous. It just means that there are a lot less terrorists in the world than you might believe
@@caigenproject the problem is that there's no back pressure to stop things from getting in. In the hose example you could sure just put some drainage holes in the pipes and call it a day but it wouldn't stop roaches from making their little kingdom in there. Having a hole were a ps5 could come in from is neat but it also means anything the size of ps5 could easily get into the system and break it... it doesn't seem like that big of a deal to me because you'd only really be destroying the experience for your neighborhood at a maximum and not bringing the whole system down, but it's a issue nonetheless.
That all sounds pretty solvable. If you don't like cratures, replace the oxygen in the pipes with some inert gas. And a correct double door locking system should ensure that you can't shove hoses or that kind of nonsense in there. Nothing is unbreakable offcourse. But if we are going to not develop stuff because people might break it. Than we can call it quits and never launch anything new again.
This is another world-defining invention. It would change everything in all the ways mentioned and i can think of a few more ideas that could use this system and further change the world. This needs to happen. The amount of money saved, the amount of resources saved. And they are just scratching the surface of the capabilities of these tubes and the vehicles.
44 now , I always thought about this when I was younger and of course watching jettson . I always wonder why we didn't do this sooner in my head . But I can see why and alll .To see this now , I just think about futurama and how cool the concept is . Best of luck to them and future of how we do things .
I had the same overall idea a long time ago, and thus I must agree that it is a good idea 🙂 I didn't think about using it to store stuff, and that's a great idea. Most of what I have in my room isn't needed often and I'd be okay with waiting 15 minutes or more, to get the part or tool I need in exchange for getting rid of clutter. You said that they gave a lot of thoughts to the pipe size and settled for 18", but I think it's too limiting, the cost of digging a trench for a 36" pipe wouldn't be much greater, obviously the pipe would cost more, but the usefulness of a larger diameter would become obvious once such a transportation network becomes the main mode of transportation. And it doesn't prevent sending smaller loads into the home, while sending larger loads to a collection box in the lobby or at the nearest intersection. The usefulness of a larger pipe can't be underestimated. There are many challenges in the way, flooding is one, piracy is another, and of course, mechanical failures. Nothing insurmountable though. It may sound disturbing at first, but I would go as far as suggesting simply upgrading the existing sewer and storm drain systems to have them double as transportation pipes. These pipes spend a lot of time mostly empty anyway.
"I need a person and a two-ton car to deliver 6 chicken nuggets to me" The entitlement of the average middle-class person is really stunning these days (not excluding myself). How about designing cities in such a way that we can reach stores and restaurants by walking or biking a few minutes? Then we could maybe pick the chicken nuggets up ourselves? 🤔
Yes, but the reality is that people in cities today have things delivered to them regularly. Plus, you could do additional things like sell or rent an object by sending it easily to someone else across the city. And maybe an access to every house or building would be overkill, maybe that could be like one collect point per block, like the places I’m already having my stuff delivered to these days.
Didn't it occur to them that their analogy to water pipes quickly break down when you consider that: 1. Each recipient getting a liter of water is getting ANY liter of water, and not a specific one, 2. Many liters of water can travel tru the pipes together mixed in with no contention. We already have the "Things Pipe" they are looking for ... it is called a road!
you could open the side of the cart, replace it with a gate that folds down, put a piston on the other side, and replace the inner plastic box with cardboard that the user gets to keep, to simply make the machine "push" the package into the users home, without needing a complicated system to dismount the package.
Hmm if only there was a solution to having to drive a 2 ton vehicle to get most simple needs...Guys we're supposed to make walkable communities not underground tunnels that give the McDonalds 3 mi away dirrect access to your house🤣
i really love the idea, but i can't help but wonder how this system would deal with the huge amounts of traffic needed, will the pipes even be long enough to queue all the deliveries needed?
I think one network with two lane traffic would already accommodate a lot, then later on more lanes could be added if needed. (Same as with Elon Musks’ Boring Company and Loop project)
you could accomodate packages in a "train" formation, with optmized delivery paths calculated by AI or other mathematical algorithm. Another crazy idea could be like some sort of "key transfer locations", imagine train A carry 3 packages, you could make it "detach" one of the packages on this "key location" where another train, lets say train B reattachs the package to deliver it in another place according to and optmal path. This kind of already happens with long airplane travels, a plane take you to a coutnry, and another plane take you out from there, and so on.. There's a lot of room to improve and think about this pipe delivery concept. If this is ever implemented, i think it will be very simple with a lot of problems at the start but it would drastically improve given enough time.
I had this idea 6 years ago, for elderly living facility in a closed environment. All the elderly lives in seperate places and get deliveries from tubes
Sorry, but I don't see how it would be plausible to install into every home. Best scalable solution would be to have multiple public parcel lockers that refills/send automaticly using undergraund tubes. Those lockers could be placed in most sensible spots over the city to cover most homes. Not so convenient as getting package directly into your kitchen, but more realistic for sure.
I'm really wondering about the throughput of a system like this. I'd imagine you'd need two pipes instead of one to handle two way traffic? The demonstrations always only show a single pipe which is strange.
@@Joe-sg9ll yeah but I'm assuming these pipes don't just serve a single home. That would be terrible infrastructure. If it serves multiple homes then if you reverse onto the pipe there'd be a collision.
So close, and yet, so far. Our underground is already an absolute mess of services, this would be one more vastly over complicated than an above ground truck (you know, the way Same Day delivery works today), difficult to resolve issues in, inefficient mess. This is the kind of brain farts that come from people who think the Hyperloop is actually a good idea. Disappointing.
Wendy's just partnered with them, so it could be a step in the right direction RE: implementation! www.irwendys.com/news/news-details/2023/Wendys-Partners-with-Pipedream-to-Pilot-Industry-First-Underground-Delivery-System-for-Mobile-Orders/default.aspx
1 minute into the video and 1 major point of failure is tunnel collapse that could affect the whole network. Quake, flooding, land subsidence all will contribute to the failure. Better to just buy your chicken nuggets frozen in bulk and heat them up when you want, rather than single serve delivery each time. ThinkWise.
If a battery starts burning the whole tunnel is broken. Not sure if the risk is worth it. The current system works and is robust. But you could engeneer a fire secure box so the problem might be solvable.
@@gnocchidokie I mean the risk for the company. If they can not deliver for a week because they need to repair their tunnel first they could be out of buissnes. But I guess in such situations they could deploy cars for the time untill the tunnel is repaired. I think the idea is good I am trying to find the reason why we dont do it on a large scale. I know the hospital in my city has such a air tube system where they can send biological probes through the whole hospital. For example blood going directly to the lab for fast analysis. It males sense and as soon as the infrastructure is build it will save time and money. I realy like the idea. I think we schould build it everywhere.
12:28 Sounds like an add for terrorists to me.... *"This is your C4 going into an Office building,or Dealing with a Landlord. You could be blowing up a Retail Center or a Parking Lot!"*
On a smaller scale, this could be really cool in office buildings or complexes. Prototypes, paper documents, mail, parts, etc. could all be sent quickly.
It's just a 21st century version of the pneumatic tube system that we thought would be everywhere back in the 60s. Cool idea, but placing all the tunnels will cost a fortune, and what do you do if something gets stuck?
Negative ned here, Rusted rails, rodents, over filled totes, fallen items from over filled totes on rails, blockages, etc. clear these and you have an excellent system.
I think instead of rails... Round carrier vehicle with 5 wheels all around the diameter will be much cheaper and efficient. No extra cost of rails. Can go any direction even up.
Do you think an army of Tesla robots could make these deliveries before digging trenches to create the same infrastructure? And what if those Tesla Delivery Robots were built like transformers and could turn into a bike and turn back into a delivery Robot and hand deliver it into New Giant Mail boxes that are secure that look like patio furniture like a bench. Things can go in but can't come out without a key. Or you need a delivery person key fob to deposit into the storage box.
I could see this working once AI and robots are here in large numbers. It could be used for the examples talked about in the video, but also for things we could not even imagine yet. Like send a small robot to your home to fix something in your house like plumbing, electrical etc. Use specific specialized robots for different tasks that can service a neighborhood. One robot is a cleaning robot, one is a chef, etc. It is an interesting idea. I don't see it happening until the robots can build it themselves though.
The USPS should adopt this type of system. They're the only organization that already has a distribution center close to the vast majority of Americans, and you're only gonna get one tube to your home anyway.
I had this exact same idea just put it underground all over that and the pneumatic tubes all over to speed things up without people needing to drive everywhere. This connected with automated trains would remove the need of drivers and with the tubes underground it would make it harder for people to steal packages.
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Why not just build cities where food is really close.
@@thegrandnil764 That is a GREAT idea! Decentralize foo production so that every community can cultivate its own food! I definitely think we should do this! But food is not the only thing that gets delivered.
There is a similiar project in switzerland called cargo sous terrain, but on a much larger scale. It uses bigger tubes, larger vehicles and aims to connect cities and big businesses via underground transport. The lawmakers already implemented the necessary changes and many big swiss companies are invested in the project. To be fair, in siwtzerland they do have to build tunnels all the time anyway, in order to get anything anywhere.
Politicians from other countries should learn from the swiss ones
so, a subway, a tried and true transport method
Im sure in Switzerland, it will be built successfully. In the U.S., the Politicians will have to get their percentage of kickbacks and the Unions will spend most time on breaks so that the job goes 100 years past the time when it was supposed to be finished and several trillion over budget all on tax payers pockets
@@chrxmeface wait for robots to automate construction, and ai to automate politics. boom, max efficiency
Sounds interesting, shame in America we would never get anything like this
If something gets stuck, the maintenance man gonna cuss like crazy
i suspect the maintenance man will be a maintenance robot. now if the maintenance robot gets stuck...
we send another one 😎
@@juzeus9I think there was a Star Trek TNG episode about this
@@moshimoshibar exocomps?
drones should deliver our food🌭
Instead of individual underground pipes going directly to each house, a much more efficient and cost-effective approach is building neighborhood distribution delivery centers. Centralizing the pipes in these centers would make it convenient for everyone to collect their deliveries by simply walking to the center.
Kinda like new neighborhoods are doing one big central mailbox
actually it is called Amazon Locker in USA ,
Hi there, I used to work in an EEG neuroscience research lab and my BS meter started going off regarding your sponsor Muse, so I looked up the studies on its use. They seem to be misrepresenting the findings, most of which found no significant effect. The studies that did were small or had no control group. Thought you might like to know because my first thought of your channel (which I was not otherwise familiar with) was that you're promoting pseudo science and it was a turn off.
Hi I’m also a student studying comp neuro what did your lab focus on
@@-ZubairAli there were so many projects it's hard for me to even know (I was primariy involved in data management) but there was a lot of work on brain injury patients for example. Best of luck with your studies!
Yeah, I was thinking the same and when he said "my job is to seems smart in front of people who are actually smart" I went "Ah it makes sense, he'd actually be the target audience for a useless 500$ gadget like that"
What does neuroscience have to do with the context of the video
@@Atheism-And-Normative-Ethics the Subject was on advert in the video.
someone looked at itemducts in modded minecraft and was like, you know what, i can do that in real life
ahahah nice ref
Or Odd squad on PBS
Pointless cost prohibitive idea
Switzerland is building a network of underground narrow tunnels for deliveries but more on an industrial scale than a private one
And just like the idea in this video the Swiss Cargo Sous-Terrain sounds cool at first until you have a look at the realistic cost / benefit of it. Then you start seeing that just improving existing systems like rail for long-distance and shared mobility for short distances will be so much better.
@@junglist_ikon yea this seems cool for like 2 seconds until the cost benefit kicks in. Waste
A few concerns...
> Rodents - What measures will be implemented to prevent them using the tunnels as their private expressway into homes & offices?
> Flooding risk (depending on regional weather & topology) - What 's the primary mitigation plan for this? One potential solution would be routing pipelines above ground, but then how do we deal with pesky humans wanting to get at the items inside the pipes?
> Blockages. - If/when these occur (and they will happen at some point), how quickly can they be cleared to get items flowing again?
And delivery of illegal drugs, guns and explosives.
I had an idea exactly like this when I was a little kid, and I thought it was just so genius. Only difference was my idea was on a much smaller scale, basically a pneumatic tube going from the mailbox to the inside of your house so you didn't have to leave the house to get the mail in the winter
That's more viable than this video
@@Ezio-Auditore94 I dont think so ,its not exactly profitable......only doable
@@Lionking-lb5gw It's more viable than the video idea. People will jam the system for others or try to send/receive drugs or animals that could die or interfere with everything.
that does exist though only for few hospitals and labs where time is critical
@@Ezio-Auditore94I can Alr see crack heads breaking into the tunnels and stealing shit
The closest to the teleportation is falling asleep on a flight
that is exactly how it would feel i reckon lol, maybe airliners and co should offer a sleeping gas to customers on a flight and advertise it as 'feels like teleportation!'
@@JTheoryScience it would be a nightmare for the fda though lmao, stores in airports selling sleeping pills (which i think is already a thing) might sound better to them
(BILLION DOLLAR IDEA) Airlines: "Hey... we can stack human bodies more efficiently in an airplane if people are asleep!" HERE COMES THE SLEEPY GAS!
@@fitybux4664 Ha ha, that's cool! 😊
it's falling asleep on the couch as a kid and waking up in bed
“Let’s give Bezos a tunnel to your bedroom”
He doesn't need one, yet.
I pictured Bezos big head all the sudden peaking from a hole in the wall with a big smile lol
Wait until bro finds out about a pad lock
I was hoping he could sneak in and read me bedtime stories.
Thing is we have drones
This is an awesome thought. Lots of questions to be answered along the way (examples: what about apartments?, what happens when a robot fails?, is it secure enough for medicine and banking? is is too hot/cold/dirty for certain perishables?, how well will it scale?). It also has a ton of potential to improve our lives (less trucks clogging city streets, faster access to goods, easier returns, easier access to goods especially for the elderly and wheelchair users). Whether it actually becomes a reality or not, it's fantastic to see people punching holes to get outside the box we often get stuck in.
I think it could get very reliable, like almost no fails, and it would be such a cheap service compared to nowadays delivery system that it would have a fairly good margin to afford warranty politic.
My bet is that this WILL happen, and after it starts, it will get better and better very fast. I don't know when this will happen but i believe it will.
What about the jobs that will go away when delivery becomes automated from this?
Who pays the trillions in infrastructure build out ? You think making holes undergro7nd is cheap? Lmafao
@@haroldfarthington7492 Loss of jobs is *always* a concern. All the way back from the invention of the automobile (what about the poor stable hands?), to automation in factories (what about the tradesmen?), to the information age ("computers" used to mean people doing calculations). I will likely lose my job as a programmer because of AI at some point. All I know is there is still alot of work in this world to do. New types of jobs seem to keep springing up despite other jobs going away. I hope that trend continues as change seems to be the only constant in this world.
@@jaylucas8352 what do you mean by trillions? this won't start covering the whole new york city, it starts in a strategic town with good terrain to such thing.
As any investment you need to spend some money to get it back later, after the system is built the service will be considerably cheaper and faster people will chose this service.
Still not realistic soon, not even in the next 100 years probably, main reason is that it would take like 150 years to get the payback, but in the future maybe it could be good and maybe like 30 years payback or something?, either because maybe we start lacking oil, or just better machinery,/ technology.
if you think with only your "todays" concepts ofc this won't work
I like the idea of using it to return items. Specially, if foods were sent in durable containers that could be washed and used again.
Haha. Your comment made me realize how many people would put their dirty dishes in this thing rather than running a dishwasher, especially if they don't already have one... I guess it could be as good as a dishwasher if someone runs an Amazon style service that washes your dishes and returns them clean.
@@devon9075 I was mostly thinking of glass soda bottles, glass milk jugs, etc. but yeah that would be an awesome service!!
*this. dishwasher. laundry. garbage, compost, recycling. everything... imagine the boost to gifting (freecycle/free stuff on craigslist) lots of things i've wanted to get but couldn't see driving 5 miles for a $3 item*
Porch pirates will adapt to be "pipe pirates"
lol They'll train ferrets to go into the tunnels and retrieve packages for them.
@hed420 lol most of them arent sophisticated. They trip often while running away with packages
@@hed420 or other robots, excepts their cameras in the tubes
All you gotta do is open up the maintenance hatch and swipe them as they slow down for curves
@@seeranos I see you thought this all out already :P
I think this is cool in concept, but probably requires building too much infrastructure to be worth the investment. And it really only lends itself to high-density, urban environments. I think drones are a more practical solution to moving mail and deliveries around without the use of cars
Yeah, drones can carry the lightest and the $20k Tesla bot humanoids can work in pairs to carry any other weight to any other place.
Exactly
They'd need air traffic controllers just for drones if everybody used them. Imagine all the drones they would need for New York City, who want's to see a drone every time they look up. Besides, they might scratch the paint on my flying car.
@@charlestaylor3195The entire DJI drone network can sense other drones. It’s like self-driving cars on a 3 dimensional level.
Or, you know, a truck? We already have enough noise pollution, the last thing we need is a constant stream of drone buzzing.
Damn! 1.5 years ago I came up with this vision and during Christmas drinks, I was entertaining family and friends with it. Of course I'm a mobile app developer, so didn't start anything, but wow! It's great to see it coming alive. Would love to contribute in the future
Having a tube going to every house sounds expensive, but if there would be boxes within a few hundred meters of your house, where stuff could be delivered automatically and very cheaply would be already nice. Would maybe spawn home appliance etc. rental business, when you wouldn't have to buy rarely needed items. Just rent them for a few euros a brief time and receive within an hour and return the same way.
Totally!
the initial cost is crazy expensive, but the operating cost if incredibly lower to normal delivery. (not to mention that it would be faster and more realiable ).
Yeah, I think this would start out as a rich person only network, then service suburbs and neighborhoods at a front hub, and then slowly become available as a more standard option for new homes as they are being built and connected to pipe networks. One thing is certain though: they would not be readily available in rural places, which is a bummer since they’d be most useful there.
So, an Amazon locker, but fed by tube.
We could open up buildings in every small town and have people pick up their stuff there. We could call it the Tube Office.
I think you would soon wish you had bigger tubes. How would you maintain them or retrieve robots when they break or run off the rails? Can you keep animals out? Could people traffic drugs via tubes? How do you increase capacity in the future?
Home industry could be facilitated by these tubes too. Order some Aluminum, when it arrives, machine it into parts and send the parts to someone else, etc. The idea has merits.
they really should make the pipes split in the middle and place them under hollow sidewalks, that way, when something inevitability clogs the tube, you could easily just lift up the concrete slab from the sidewalk, unbolt the top section of the tube off and remove the clog. It's a lot more infrastructure work but you'd at least get to run water-mains, gas and electricity all in the same hole...
It's cool but not good on a small personal scale. The cost and energy required to build all the tubes with rails would be enormous. Above-ground rail for longer distances with a transition to aerial transit over short neighborhood distances would be much better.
Small autonomous electric ground vehicles will soon do this same thing everywhere with no infrastructure adjustments. So this underground rail option is only good for very high frequency needs over very short distances.
Good point you could get drugs delivered too...now I'm definitely on board.
In all seriousness drugs are the least concern, they are valuable enough people are happy to drive.
@@Mavrik9000Indeed, but very high frequency over short distance IS our reality. At least in (dense) cities. Basically everyone is having stuff in and out all the time, and it would dramatically increase and replace more traditional ways if this was implemented. I mean, people would have even more stuff delivered vs go and buy, you’d send stuff to other people, there would be more rental services, second hand services… Not overnight, but in the medium to long term. Today I can already see delivering vans and trucks in my street all the time… So it would pay off. My guess.
@@brunosco Imagine installing street-size sewer mains to every address with rail tracts inside them. Then add in all the intersections and switching equipment. It's an enormously complex system and prohibitively expensive.
In new developments where they put multiple utilities in the same chamber or tunnel, it might be feasible, not to every location but instead only to central hub locations.
Hey! I’m the guy who stuffed an entire donut in my mouth 15:48 and built the network in Georgia. Feel free to ask any questions!
What do you think about developing this system and licencing it out to other parts of the world? Different cities might have different requirements. The physical parts of such a system could be made by any manufacturer, when it is standardized.
@@thx9977 That’s definitely one of the ways we think of getting the technology out into the world. Similar to how internet is spread, we develop the technology and others can be the one putting it in your home. It’s gonna be a massive challenge getting this everywhere the way we want it to be, but that’s just part of the fun :)
Have you guys designed any systems that’s targeting apartments/multifamily buildings? Like just for in building deliveries like a dumbwaiter lift. I live in a large apartment building and the number 1 problem we have is the overflowing packages that’s taking up all the lockers and lobby spaces. My building management had since knocked down 3 rooms and redone an office room to try to accommodate but it’s still loose packages everywhere and people’s stuff gets lost sometimes. I feel like if you guys can marketing it to luxury buildings as a storage/concierge solution. With them you can make some money to further the company and I bet they will be able to provide yall with plenty of interior design models and field data
Oh yea and office buildings to to deliver mails and stuff
15:46; I just wanted to say that this really does seem like a great idea and although I'm sure there's tons of hurdles, the payoffs seem worth the investments. All the best!
This kind of inferstructure is so expensive and difficult to build but it could be super economical if implimented in somewhere like new york and lasted for a long time.
In New York especially you could maybe even bolt a pipe underneath bridges or subway lines. Would eliminate a huge amount of drilling
I've said for a while that municipalities should be managing holes in the ground and leasing them out to various utility companies. I was mostly thinking in terms of telecommunications but small robo-trains could make sense as well.
8:00 To be fair, that multi-ton vehicle is also transporting your neighbor’s stuff, your neighborhood’s stuff, and neighborhoods on both side of yours, etc etc.
@5:41 ... I feel like he's kind of *massively* understating the gap in priority level for most people between "gee, I wish my chicken nuggets would get here a little bit faster," and "gee, I wish the street outside my house wasn't filled with the literal feces of my entire family and all our neighbors."
Great concept; difficult to execute. Definitely a pipe dream, but also quite possible. All the best!
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Sounds like those crazy Jetson ideas from the 60s that never happened. To many things can go wrong.
the system needs to be installed in a New Apartment building, with a location in the parking garage for delivery drivers to load to the individual apartments. It can then be upgraded to a city wide system. make sure the largest pizza can be delivered . 😎
Make it a calzone. More space efficient
Or we could make reusable pizza boxes that stack 4 quarters on top of each other. Probably better for heat retention too.
I really wish these guys success, but I doubt it will work. So many potential problems: small animals, gas leaks, flooding, earthquakes causing damage to the rails, deliberate sabotage etc etc. Maybe it works on a smaller scale within commercial facilities or something like that.
Aren’t these already issues with things like sewage, gas, water, electricity etc?
you've now sold me on muse. I've been reading into it's uses within vr applications, and now you've mentioned it in a _totally_ different field. Thank you for sharing your story of muse!
I wonder how they would keep wildlife out. I'm just imagining rats surfing on an robot, eating your Uber Eats before it even gets to you 😅
A year or two ago I saw a TikTok from what I think was one of the founders of this company talking about this idea. At the time everyone in the comments was calling this a long-shot idea that had no hope of succeeding. It's great to see that they're still around and making real progress with this.
Even if this isn't for long haul, I think its really cool. If means that a post office kind of place in an area can take deliveries and send it through a neighborhood or two (5-50 houses) its pretty cool. Apartments also feel like a good place for this (going up as well of course). Better than the front office stealing your mail...
For the first half of this video I was thinking I don't want this! I want some friction between my deciding I want something and actually buying it. For the second half where they start to consider the implications of having quick access (not necessarily buying) to stuff we want, I'm in. All those tools and equipment I have that I rarely use can be shared or rented just by putting it in a drawer. I love it!
To solve the issue of waste and things, you could have different containers for different items. A blue bin for recycling, a red bin for hazardous waste like batteries. Hell, this could replace garbage trucks - rarely do you have huge things to throw out, it’s just napkins or random bits and pieces. You could have a bin just like a trash can but send it away in the tube and it goes right to a garbage center
I could see this being a feasible option for eco new build: if the buildings deal with their own graywater, you could use this to transport the "output" of composting toilets to a central facility. That way you'd only need to install the same number of pipes as a normal building. And yeah, I would love to live in a small apartment where I have access to a massive library of shared tools, instruments etc. within a few minutes. That would be awesome, and so much more sustainable!
Pump liquid is hugely energy efficient. I guess the problem is that sewage system carries low concentration (in organic matter) water. If every apartment had a Food Waste Grinder and every building a system for pre treatment, it could generate reuse water for the entire building, and let the concentrate sewage flows to a treatment plant to produce methane for electricity generation and bio fertilizer.
"Why are you pooping in that drawer?" "Don't worry about it, I'm saving the planet"
At first I was like, why do consumers need instant gratification for impulse purchases.
Then I remembered all brick and mortar close at 11pm. My child got extremely sick at midnight the other night and the only option was a gas station or the ER for medicine...
This seems an obvious next step for delivery. I really like the idea of storing your own physical items in the "cloud" just like data, or accessing shared items almost instantly. Very cool. 😊
This is one of the most exciting videos I've seen in ages! What a brilliant idea, from such a bold and impressive little startup. If I could invest in it (or be part of it), I totally would. I really hope to see this come to life within my lifetime 😀
Why not help implement it in your area? Work with them and be active at your level… Pretty bold, but why not? I’m telling this to myself too! 😄
i feel like this is one of those very good ideas that gets a good amount of attention that will never work and people will look back at it as a fever dream.
The year is 1994, studying mech Eng, me and a friend conceptualized this exact idea. Today it might work because the issues we found are now not an issue with 30 years of tech advancement.
Best pipedream labs video I've seen so far
Awesome concept and something I would happily install at home and connect to.
How would you stop people on the receiving end from sending garbage or dangerous items back through the tunnels. You could easily end up with a waste problem that then has to be addressed and issues with oversized items being jammed into it. It almost needs a sealable capsule with a sensor that has to be closed and the sensor knows its sealed it fits back through the tube.
Also if you did have service pits similar to sewerage, porch pirates etc would likely start breaking into those to take stuff as well.
Or eventually people living in all the tubes and crawling into houses.
They have sewer pipe everywhere, it's not totally idiot proof, but close to it. We're gonna need some more plumbers though, for when the tubes get jammed.
I guess there would be some additional robots specifically designed to police and address those issues. Similar to the streets where people (police, security people, service people) deal with whatever issue arises, robots would do it in the tubes, autonomously or remotely controlled. Those problems wouldn’t appear overnight, I guess, so there would be time for such special robots to be developed and deployed alongside the main ones.
Yeah people can put bugs in there on purpose and cause chaos
Honestly this could change the world. Seems like a pipedream to make happen but all the use cases listed at the end are game changing.
This video is 1 parts inspiring, 1 parts cool, and 998 parts Meme/Joke material. Infinite donut drawer lol.
when he picked up the doughnut i was like “now i want a doughnut”
and then i thought “oh”
this could make food way cheaper. make it in bulk it automated kitchens then send it to 10s of thousands of homes a day with these delivery systems. Easily lowers costs by like 70-80%. No more cooking needed ever again.
Seems like a drone delivery system is much more efficient - tube infrastructure would be a nightmare to implement.
The items sharing part is incredible.
Also once house robots will be a thing, if you forget something at home you can just tell your robot to send it through the tube
I mean mail delivery used to be done by pneumatic tubes all throughout the city long ago, so this isn't exactly new. It was dangerous and expensive to maintain. So we got rid of that and moved to driver mail. This might be easier to maintain than the pneumatic tubes though. A tube system would be cool though, and faster.
But wouldn't be a drone based system better since there is no need for infrastructure ? Imagine having to dig up everything to put in the tube with a drone you dont need it.
London used to have small underground trains just to move mail from one post office to another throughout the city.
@@kilian42 Except drones get attacked by birds and have trouble in inclement weather. Drones are cool, but aren't practical for deliveries, at least non consistently. That said, this system is even more impractical.
@@kilian42 safety hazard too. I've heard someone else that was doing drones commercially say they were doing well into their insurance asked "You're fly how much weight over peoples heads?"
@@kilian42Some commented here on some of the drone issues. But what about robots using the pavement? I think this exists already. Still, that wouldn’t solve the “last inch” portion, where the stuff gets into your house.
I can see it in places with proper urban density like NYC or asian cities. then have it set up like a amazon locker where you have a centralized location at your building. But setting up a input output location in every house seems far fetched.
So did the internet lol
Hard no, drone deliveries were the best idea for solving this problem. Just gotta perfect autonomous flying
I hate all the negativity in the comments this is genuinely a great idea and as someone who is a delivery driver I would love for this to happen it would take my job but I feel that the long term benefits of it would outweigh any cost. driving as a job is very dangerous and I’m sure there are many people who have died that could have been prevented if we had less cars on the roads and more safe methods of transportation who cares if it gets clogged every once in a while it’s better than a pile up at the intersection with three dead bodies and a child without a parent. people just don’t realize how dangerous cars are
Americans need... Donuts delivered directly to their gobs, without leaving the chair/bed. Awesome idea!
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Yeah, and Europeans ice cream. 😅 It would have bad consequences for some. 😁
@@brunosco Europeans are sooooo much fatter than us Yanks 💪😲🤣🤣🤣
Hot donuts!
2:09 'Moves your Brain in the right direction huh?' Like the way you put that. Sounds a lot better than...
*"Thank you for helping us learn how to control your brains!!"* - Skynet -
I love this idea, hope it works out!
Oh it will, buuut, idk if you gonna be "Loving it" once you all you have is a subscription service and a bed on 10 floor
this is a great idea and it would fix many traffic problems
We can’t even figure out underground powerlines in most places and they expect us to believe municipal governments will support mini subways for Amazon packages?
It is a good idea though, instead of drones
Maybe Bezos billions might fund these networks, would be for the public good but he would have a massive head start and recoup the costs over decades with fees
Hey it might not work, but we’re going to try to get funding for the next decade
So how does plumbing work then?
@@jackwilliamburgess the pressurized 6 inch diameter water mains or the 1.5 in diameter supply to each house… aren’t cheap and every house needs them to be a livable dwelling. Sewer is cheaper but tends to have vermin and filth and flood waters and roots growing in it… not exactly a good place for your robot to swim through with your McDonald’s order.
Hi from Greece. Nice idea. If a country decides to build a smart city from scratch then they should absolutely adopt this.
You could also "ship out" waste.
0:16 Why is there an envelope with the Berlin Code of Arms? Man, I love these Easter eggs from stock footage.
Very interesting idea, reminds me a little of the vacuum-tubes they used to have in offices.
Wonder how they would deal with higher volumes, we only see one cart driving but what if its hundreds, how would that scale. Looking at how vulnerable trains are how you gonna prevent a nightmare gridlock underground. Also, that one delivery Van is a lot more environmentally friendly than 100+ people individually driving up to the shops and back home. The better option would be if people would walk / take the bike to the shops, but that means properly designed cities for humans instead of cars. Buying less shit would also help....
This.
A great proving ground could be the next to last mile, connecting warehouses on the edge of major metro areas to micro distribution centers in neighborhoods. That could eventually connect to every house.
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This need more likes 😂😂😂
I spoke about this same idea with my father in detail a few years back. I'm glad to have it validated
This is incredible!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
Better idea. How about forcing warehouses to have direct railway connections! Then Nationalize all the class 1 and some class 2 railroads while leaving the smaller branch lines as class 3.
98% problem solved.
Cool idea 💡, but it’s a pipe dream, imagine flood or gas leak entering directly into your kitchen or rodent, pest, etc…
How about if something toxic/combustable is spilled, or there is a fire. Or people intentionally sabotage to break. What if someone puts a garden hose into their hole. How easy to fix? Theft issues?
Drone deliveries make more sense to me.
I was thinking the same thing. It's going to be insanely expensive not just to install but to maintain a system like this.
What do you guys do when a flood makes your sewer overflow? And someone creative could allready send a self destruct submarine down your sewer pipe today....
I don't see new problems that we don't allready have with the current piping.
The fact that nobody blew up your local gas pipe yet doesn't mean that this new thing is more dangerous. It just means that there are a lot less terrorists in the world than you might believe
@@caigenproject the problem is that there's no back pressure to stop things from getting in. In the hose example you could sure just put some drainage holes in the pipes and call it a day but it wouldn't stop roaches from making their little kingdom in there. Having a hole were a ps5 could come in from is neat but it also means anything the size of ps5 could easily get into the system and break it... it doesn't seem like that big of a deal to me because you'd only really be destroying the experience for your neighborhood at a maximum and not bringing the whole system down, but it's a issue nonetheless.
That all sounds pretty solvable. If you don't like cratures, replace the oxygen in the pipes with some inert gas. And a correct double door locking system should ensure that you can't shove hoses or that kind of nonsense in there.
Nothing is unbreakable offcourse. But if we are going to not develop stuff because people might break it. Than we can call it quits and never launch anything new again.
This is another world-defining invention. It would change everything in all the ways mentioned and i can think of a few more ideas that could use this system and further change the world. This needs to happen. The amount of money saved, the amount of resources saved. And they are just scratching the surface of the capabilities of these tubes and the vehicles.
I went to school with Canon. Amazing guy and even amazing-er brain!
@@CanonReeves-xb3qx got an immediate test case in Australia, where can I order one of the units?
44 now , I always thought about this when I was younger and of course watching jettson . I always wonder why we didn't do this sooner in my head . But I can see why and alll .To see this now , I just think about futurama and how cool the concept is . Best of luck to them and future of how we do things .
Sounds like a great way to give possums and raccoons direct access to your house.
Also flood water
I had the same overall idea a long time ago, and thus I must agree that it is a good idea 🙂 I didn't think about using it to store stuff, and that's a great idea. Most of what I have in my room isn't needed often and I'd be okay with waiting 15 minutes or more, to get the part or tool I need in exchange for getting rid of clutter.
You said that they gave a lot of thoughts to the pipe size and settled for 18", but I think it's too limiting, the cost of digging a trench for a 36" pipe wouldn't be much greater, obviously the pipe would cost more, but the usefulness of a larger diameter would become obvious once such a transportation network becomes the main mode of transportation. And it doesn't prevent sending smaller loads into the home, while sending larger loads to a collection box in the lobby or at the nearest intersection. The usefulness of a larger pipe can't be underestimated.
There are many challenges in the way, flooding is one, piracy is another, and of course, mechanical failures. Nothing insurmountable though.
It may sound disturbing at first, but I would go as far as suggesting simply upgrading the existing sewer and storm drain systems to have them double as transportation pipes. These pipes spend a lot of time mostly empty anyway.
"I need a person and a two-ton car to deliver 6 chicken nuggets to me"
The entitlement of the average middle-class person is really stunning these days (not excluding myself). How about designing cities in such a way that we can reach stores and restaurants by walking or biking a few minutes? Then we could maybe pick the chicken nuggets up ourselves? 🤔
Or just make your own food (wow, revolutionary!)
Yes, but the reality is that people in cities today have things delivered to them regularly. Plus, you could do additional things like sell or rent an object by sending it easily to someone else across the city. And maybe an access to every house or building would be overkill, maybe that could be like one collect point per block, like the places I’m already having my stuff delivered to these days.
2:53 Great Face Muscle coordination! Im always impressed at how people can pull up this face movements! Wholesome!
Didn't it occur to them that their analogy to water pipes quickly break down when you consider that: 1. Each recipient getting a liter of water is getting ANY liter of water, and not a specific one, 2. Many liters of water can travel tru the pipes together mixed in with no contention. We already have the "Things Pipe" they are looking for ... it is called a road!
you could open the side of the cart, replace it with a gate that folds down, put a piston on the other side, and replace the inner plastic box with cardboard that the user gets to keep, to simply make the machine "push" the package into the users home, without needing a complicated system to dismount the package.
Hmm if only there was a solution to having to drive a 2 ton vehicle to get most simple needs...Guys we're supposed to make walkable communities not underground tunnels that give the McDonalds 3 mi away dirrect access to your house🤣
Super duper cool! This has so much potential! Watching technologies like this develop is super inspiring! Great editing too!
i really love the idea, but i can't help but wonder how this system would deal with the huge amounts of traffic needed, will the pipes even be long enough to queue all the deliveries needed?
just one more lane . . .
I think one network with two lane traffic would already accommodate a lot, then later on more lanes could be added if needed. (Same as with Elon Musks’ Boring Company and Loop project)
you could accomodate packages in a "train" formation, with optmized delivery paths calculated by AI or other mathematical algorithm.
Another crazy idea could be like some sort of "key transfer locations", imagine train A carry 3 packages, you could make it "detach" one of the packages on this "key location" where another train, lets say train B reattachs the package to deliver it in another place according to and optmal path.
This kind of already happens with long airplane travels, a plane take you to a coutnry, and another plane take you out from there, and so on..
There's a lot of room to improve and think about this pipe delivery concept.
If this is ever implemented, i think it will be very simple with a lot of problems at the start but it would drastically improve given enough time.
I had this idea 6 years ago, for elderly living facility in a closed environment. All the elderly lives in seperate places and get deliveries from tubes
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Sorry, but I don't see how it would be plausible to install into every home. Best scalable solution would be to have multiple public parcel lockers that refills/send automaticly using undergraund tubes. Those lockers could be placed in most sensible spots over the city to cover most homes. Not so convenient as getting package directly into your kitchen, but more realistic for sure.
I'm really wondering about the throughput of a system like this. I'd imagine you'd need two pipes instead of one to handle two way traffic? The demonstrations always only show a single pipe which is strange.
Yes, probably two pipes.
@@Joe-sg9ll yeah but I'm assuming these pipes don't just serve a single home. That would be terrible infrastructure. If it serves multiple homes then if you reverse onto the pipe there'd be a collision.
what will happen if there is flooding? How will it work in high-rise buildings and skyscrapers?
So close, and yet, so far. Our underground is already an absolute mess of services, this would be one more vastly over complicated than an above ground truck (you know, the way Same Day delivery works today), difficult to resolve issues in, inefficient mess. This is the kind of brain farts that come from people who think the Hyperloop is actually a good idea. Disappointing.
3:42 LOL i bet the youtube algorithm loved that little bit of word play there.
It's not freaking gonna work.
Your English doesn't either 😂
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That last part about sharing tools or storing items would solve a lot of our current problems. I hope this gets implemented soon
Wendy's just partnered with them, so it could be a step in the right direction RE: implementation! www.irwendys.com/news/news-details/2023/Wendys-Partners-with-Pipedream-to-Pilot-Industry-First-Underground-Delivery-System-for-Mobile-Orders/default.aspx
1 minute into the video and 1 major point of failure is tunnel collapse that could affect the whole network. Quake, flooding, land subsidence all will contribute to the failure. Better to just buy your chicken nuggets frozen in bulk and heat them up when you want, rather than single serve delivery each time. ThinkWise.
How does it affect the whole network? You can just isolate the damaged section.
At most a few minutes of delay on some deliveries
If a battery starts burning the whole tunnel is broken. Not sure if the risk is worth it. The current system works and is robust.
But you could engeneer a fire secure box so the problem might be solvable.
The same things impact water, sewage and electric that we currently have
@@VR_Wizard Right now your delivery driver has a chance of dying in a car crash to bring you your food, seems like a higher risk than this idea
@@gnocchidokie I mean the risk for the company. If they can not deliver for a week because they need to repair their tunnel first they could be out of buissnes. But I guess in such situations they could deploy cars for the time untill the tunnel is repaired. I think the idea is good I am trying to find the reason why we dont do it on a large scale. I know the hospital in my city has such a air tube system where they can send biological probes through the whole hospital. For example blood going directly to the lab for fast analysis.
It males sense and as soon as the infrastructure is build it will save time and money. I realy like the idea. I think we schould build it everywhere.
12:28 Sounds like an add for terrorists to me....
*"This is your C4 going into an Office building,or Dealing with a Landlord. You could be blowing up a Retail Center or a Parking Lot!"*
On a smaller scale, this could be really cool in office buildings or complexes. Prototypes, paper documents, mail, parts, etc. could all be sent quickly.
It's just a 21st century version of the pneumatic tube system that we thought would be everywhere back in the 60s.
Cool idea, but placing all the tunnels will cost a fortune, and what do you do if something gets stuck?
Negative ned here,
Rusted rails, rodents, over filled totes, fallen items from over filled totes on rails, blockages, etc. clear these and you have an excellent system.
this looks very similar to what Philip Jose Farmer described in his Dayworld trilogy, and I'm all here for it.
As long as security is solved, this will be a thing! Thanks for sharing this great video!
I think instead of rails... Round carrier vehicle with 5 wheels all around the diameter will be much cheaper and efficient.
No extra cost of rails.
Can go any direction even up.
Do you think an army of Tesla robots could make these deliveries before digging trenches to create the same infrastructure?
And what if those Tesla Delivery Robots were built like transformers and could turn into a bike and turn back into a delivery Robot and hand deliver it into New Giant Mail boxes that are secure that look like patio furniture like a bench. Things can go in but can't come out without a key. Or you need a delivery person key fob to deposit into the storage box.
I could see this working once AI and robots are here in large numbers. It could be used for the examples talked about in the video, but also for things we could not even imagine yet. Like send a small robot to your home to fix something in your house like plumbing, electrical etc. Use specific specialized robots for different tasks that can service a neighborhood. One robot is a cleaning robot, one is a chef, etc. It is an interesting idea. I don't see it happening until the robots can build it themselves though.
Super dope ideas, we like the way you think.
I'm not going to be surprised until you get that to work in Lebanon with half working electricity that comes only like 2 hours a day
The USPS should adopt this type of system. They're the only organization that already has a distribution center close to the vast majority of Americans, and you're only gonna get one tube to your home anyway.
I had this exact same idea just put it underground all over that and the pneumatic tubes all over to speed things up without people needing to drive everywhere. This connected with automated trains would remove the need of drivers and with the tubes underground it would make it harder for people to steal packages.
It's simple and science fiction at the same time. Genius.