How to build a competitive Dark Angels Space Marines list in 10th Edition - Guide
Вставка
- Опубліковано 8 вер 2024
- Join my Patreon circle for personalized roster breakdowns, hobby advice, voting for new videos and more! / vfminiatures
In this video, we dive into building a competitive Dark Angels Space Marines list for 10th Edition Warhammer 40K. We cover both Gladius Task Force and Inner Circle Detachments, breaking down general strategy, melee damage dealers, shooting damage dealers, and essential support units. We round off with a sample roster for each detachment, ensuring you're equipped with the knowledge to dominate the battlefield.
🎨Tired of grey plastic? We paint, you play! Check out our vibrant gallery: vfminiatures.c...
Thank you to my awesome Patrons:
Adam King
Andre Hellmann
Pete Escamilla
Andras Takacs
Daemonicon
Sarvoth Talem
N0Rst4TheW1cked
Pavel Kohout
Nathan
Bradley Merbis
DANTE_SinFanBoys
devon rivera
Jason Royce
Anthony LeBlanc
Arian Scalise
Azrael has the deathwing keyword so if you put him leading the Hellblasters they gain the keyword. Therefore they get the whole benefits of the IC detachment
They would love all he gives:
+1 wound rolls
4+ invuln
4+ fnp against mortals once a game
Sustained hits 1
Another S8 gun
Powerful melee for emergencies
Just played Dark Angels at a Local Tournament earlier today, can confirm Inner Circle is a solid Detachment and most of your advice is pretty good. I wish I had thought about some of the Anti-Vehicle stuff because all I brought was Chainfists on Terms and Maces on Knights.
I love that terminators finally see some play
Deathwing knight are like discounted custodes warden, nearly the same output and durability.
Which means they will have major problem vs melta spam sister and zeraphim mortal wound bomb due to it being repeatable and punch up in pts very hard, i personally would run hellblaster to have tools to deal with sister body spam.
Fantastic video. Exactly what I was doing on my own. Thanks for spelling it out!
My pleasure 💪💪💪 Glad you enjoyed it
@@vfminiatures if you did a space wolves one next due to their new champ of Russ buff that would be sweeeeeett!!!!
Really good video. But as a beginner I didn’t know what units you were talking about most of the time. Maybe a quick pic of the unit to give a clue what unit you’re talking about. 👍👍👍
Thank you! Very interesting perspective - definitely worth a consideration. Worst case - I usually give enough of the name for you to be able to google it if need be, but I’ll think about adding pics💪
@@vfminiatures great. I’ve subbed. 👍
Will use this to try to build something competetive, played only with things i think are cool but would be fun to also be able to win haha
Deathwing Assault+3" Deepstrike is there to try to find a spot on turn 1 to start getting Behind enemy lines and engage on all fronts. Been considering just having a solo Termi Chappy with it.
Now that dev wounds are mortal wounds again, the lion gives a 4+ FNP against dev wounds when you need it
For the Lion!
For the lion🔥
Been waiting for this content!! Heck yea!!!
🔥🔥🔥
I feel that i should mention that the 3" deep strike strat in IC doesn't allow charges.
Lion's Gladius 2000pts
Space Marines
Dark Angels
Strike Force (2000 points)
Gladius Task Force
CHARACTERS
Apothecary Biologis (85 points)
• 1x Absolvor bolt pistol
1x Close combat weapon
• Enhancement: Fire Discipline
Azrael (105 points)
• 1x Lion’s Wrath
1x The Lion Helm
1x The Sword of Secrets
Captain in Gravis Armour (90 points)
• 1x Boltstorm gauntlet
1x Power fist
1x Relic fist
• Enhancement: Artificer Armour
Lieutenant (80 points)
• 1x Heavy bolt pistol
1x Plasma pistol
1x Power fist
• Enhancement: The Honour Vehement
Lion El’Jonson (300 points)
• Warlord
• 1x Arma Luminis
1x Fealty
OTHER DATASHEETS
Eradicator Squad (190 points)
• 1x Eradicator Sergeant
• 1x Bolt pistol
1x Close combat weapon
1x Melta rifle
• 5x Eradicator
• 5x Bolt pistol
5x Close combat weapon
3x Melta rifle
2x Multi-melta
Gladiator Lancer (160 points)
• 1x Armoured hull
1x Icarus rocket pod
1x Ironhail heavy stubber
1x Lancer laser destroyer
2x Storm bolter
Gladiator Lancer (160 points)
• 1x Armoured hull
1x Icarus rocket pod
1x Ironhail heavy stubber
1x Lancer laser destroyer
2x Storm bolter
Gladiator Lancer (160 points)
• 1x Armoured hull
1x Icarus rocket pod
1x Ironhail heavy stubber
1x Lancer laser destroyer
2x Storm bolter
Hellblaster Squad (230 points)
• 1x Hellblaster Sergeant
• 1x Bolt pistol
1x Close combat weapon
1x Plasma incinerator
• 9x Hellblaster
• 9x Bolt pistol
9x Close combat weapon
9x Plasma incinerator
Infiltrator Squad (100 points)
• 1x Infiltrator Sergeant
• 1x Bolt pistol
1x Close combat weapon
1x Marksman bolt carbine
• 4x Infiltrator
• 4x Bolt pistol
4x Close combat weapon
1x Helix Gauntlet
1x Infiltrator Comms Array
4x Marksman bolt carbine
Scout Squad (65 points)
• 1x Scout Sergeant
• 1x Astartes shotgun
1x Bolt pistol
1x Close combat weapon
• 4x Scout
• 3x Astartes shotgun
4x Bolt pistol
4x Close combat weapon
1x Missile launcher
Scout Squad (65 points)
• 1x Scout Sergeant
• 1x Astartes shotgun
1x Bolt pistol
1x Close combat weapon
• 4x Scout
• 3x Astartes shotgun
4x Bolt pistol
4x Close combat weapon
1x Missile launcher
Vanguard Veteran Squad with Jump Packs (210 points)
• 1x Vanguard Veteran Sergeant with Jump Pack
• 1x Inferno pistol
1x Vanguard Veteran weapon
• 9x Vanguard Veteran with Jump Pack
• 9x Inferno pistol
9x Vanguard Veteran weapon
Exported with App Version: v1.17.0 (45), Data Version: v430
I'm fucking with it. Great video, bro.
Thanks! Appreciate it💪
Would love to see you do one of these for death guard
Thank you for this One!
Vanguard veterans can make use of Relic Teleportarium to deep strike 3"
You pay a 25pt tax but then you can make use of the detachment rule and stratagems over JPI. They make for good skirmishers.
I like a brick of Thunderhammer wielding terminators for a 1st turn 3 inch deep strike. Sure they can't do anything that turn. But dropping 40+ wounds into the enemy deployment zone goes hard. Then with the Ancient and captain you can have Singular Will so they stand a good chance of getting into engagement range of multiple units. With the stratagem you can likely fish for devastating wounds for the Thunderhammers.
Both combos pretty good - I’m worried of AVC’s having a massive Ap1 problem, even with +1 to wound they’d struggle into anything decent. And it’s still like an almost a 300pts unit.
Regarding terminator in DZ - yep, it’s a very solid argument 😂😂😂
A little correction , The Lion is either Damage 1 (and not damage 2) sweep or Damage 4 strike
I think you underestimate the power of Hellblasters...in gladius with Fire Diciplin they are brutal. A 5 man squad can kill a Landraider with one round of shooting, they are strong as f.
This. Straight buster. I melted a stompa with one round of shooting. I have been running 2x hellblaster squads, one with Azzy and one with fire discipline LT.
Agreed. I have ran 10 Hellblasters with Azrael for like 20 games now and it is absolutely deadly ! Their kill count is just ridiculous and they have been deleting units basically everytime they were shooting
I'm leaning vanguard detachment for the vect and -1hit
I am as well. I literally commented this in the patreon. It just feels amazing to Infiltrate the DWK with terminator Chaplain
@@StorytellerCharm I'm actually running zero dwk in the vanguard list 😅
Az+LT+10 hellblaster, judiciar+10 ICC, combi LT with vect, lion, 2 impulsor (ICC, and then 1 for the durable secondaries), 1x5 jump pack int, 1x3 bolter inceptor, 1x5 infiltrators, 2x5 scouts, 2 vindicators
@@Johnnymarzo oh interesting. What are you running?
@@Johnnymarzo Quite the fun list. I’m just now starting to delve into my competitive journey thanks to this channel and the coaching I’m finding to be very helpful. My list that is still in the rough draft phase is:
Az+10 Assault Intercessors
Combi lieutenant with Vect
3x5 JPI
1x6 devastator centurions
2x5 DWK both led by a Termie Chaplain (one with Blade Driven deep)
1x5 Scouts
2x Gladiator Lancers
Looking to screen threats with efficient units, stream roll or tie up with strong melee, and shoot the enemy off the board with the very maneuverable firepower
Is there a list that uses both Lion and and azrael together? I just started warhammer and bought a lot of models because I thought they were cool, but I know nothing of the gameplay yet. I bought Lion, Azrael, deathwing knights and the combat patrol, can I do a working list using what I got or do they not work well together?
I just want to know what would be the best thing for me to do to start a decent army goinf forward from here, thank you.
Yes, that list is definitely doable and they have no counter synergy whatsoever. Both are great characters helping with different things in the army, perhaps a bit expensive to have both, but not crazily so
As for starting the army - I’d just buy 10 normal and 15 Deathwing knights terminators and build painted them. They will serve you a long time and won’t become obsolete.
Check out my Patreon if you’d like full guidance on the collection and army tactics 😉
Deathwing termies deleted a brutalis dreadnought right after the update. Very nice.
Were they with a chaplain?
Only way I'm playing is oops all bikes. Also company of hunters gives you battleine bikes which is somewhat relevant now and fall back and shoot is still useful and you can have your biggest ball of bikes have the enhancement for charge as well. Also the 9 inch scout one let's you turn one charge a unit an entire galaxy away. 27 plus 2d6 on outriders lollll
I see a man from Chogoris has entered the chat💪😄
@@vfminiaturesheheh, I use DA Ravenwing rules for my White Scars
Great upload man. Came up against Chaos renegades list and just pulled through a victory only thanks to some clutch rolling on my side.
Struggled to deal with the speed they can move and those fucking 21 man blob of occursed cultists that can surge when shot at!!
Ran Gladius TF. Your list looks recommendation looks great
***Edit - Where can we find your battle reports for DA?!
Well done! 👍 Renegades are tough as hell, what list you ran? Here’s the link to the report for DA ua-cam.com/video/knBDCZ_az_0/v-deo.htmlsi=tcAZAIwuhQ7XCxO8
@@vfminiatures Gladius (2000 points)
Space Marines
Dark Angels
Strike Force (2000 points)
Gladius Task Force
CHARACTERS
Azrael (105 points)
• 1x Lion’s Wrath
1x The Lion Helm
1x The Sword of Secrets
Chaplain in Terminator Armour (90 points)
• 1x Crozius arcanum
1x Storm bolter
• Enhancement: The Honour Vehement
Ezekiel (75 points)
• 1x Book of Salvation
1x Mind Wipe
1x The Deliverer
1x Traitor’s Bane
Lion El’Jonson (300 points)
• Warlord
• 1x Arma Luminis
1x Fealty
OTHER DATASHEETS
Deathwing Knights (235 points)
• 1x Knight Master
• 1x Great weapon of the Unforgiven
• 4x Deathwing Knight
• 4x Mace of absolution
Deathwing Knights (235 points)
• 1x Knight Master
• 1x Great weapon of the Unforgiven
• 4x Deathwing Knight
• 4x Power weapon
Hellblaster Squad (230 points)
• 1x Hellblaster Sergeant
• 1x Close combat weapon
1x Plasma incinerator
1x Plasma pistol
• 9x Hellblaster
• 9x Bolt pistol
9x Close combat weapon
9x Plasma incinerator
Infiltrator Squad (100 points)
• 1x Infiltrator Sergeant
• 1x Bolt pistol
1x Close combat weapon
1x Marksman bolt carbine
• 4x Infiltrator
• 4x Bolt pistol
4x Close combat weapon
1x Helix Gauntlet
1x Infiltrator Comms Array
4x Marksman bolt carbine
Inner Circle Companions (180 points)
• 6x Inner Circle Companion
• 6x Calibanite greatsword
6x Heavy bolt pistol
Land Raider (240 points)
• 1x Armoured tracks
2x Godhammer lascannon
1x Hunter-killer missile
1x Multi-melta
1x Storm bolter
1x Twin heavy bolter
Redemptor Dreadnought (210 points)
• 1x Icarus rocket pod
1x Macro plasma incinerator
1x Onslaught gatling cannon
1x Redemptor fist
1x Twin fragstorm grenade launcher
Exported with App Version: v1.17.0 (45), Data Version: v430
Eradicators are Gravis and take up 2 slots in the transport....It has a capacity of 6 so only 3 man can be taken
You probably mean repulsor executioner - I was referring to regular repulsor🤗
Hey, I'm quite new to the more competative side of 40k. I'm curious and wonder why you always use Jump Intercessors, could you not run Outriders also or instead? They seem quite similar and could fulfill the same role. Abit tougher with T5 and 12 wounds per unit. You lose some melee but gain more ranged shots, similar OC etc. So why is Jump Packs so often rated much higher than Outriders?
Firstly - welcome to the hobby💪
Now to answer your question - they are actually pretty different in more ways than you can imagine, to name a few:
1) JPI have smaller footprint - easier to hide.
2) JPI can go through walls.
3) JPI can do MWs on the charge, and with Grenade you can throw plus power fist on sergeant they can punch up for 80pts, Outriders can’t, they are anemic in combat.
These are just the big things. So yes, Outriders are tougher but you don’t necessarily need that extra toughness for their role. The benefits definitely outweigh on the JPI side
@@vfminiatures I see I see, didn't think about going through walls or the grenades. I thought it might have something to do with their ability atleast and the extra melee weapons + power fist, well making up for the worse toughness or shooting. Thank you!
Question. Why would you recommend the Termie Chaplain when Inner Circle already grants +1 to wound on objectives? I'm assuming you'd drop them on an objective with Deathwing Assault. I was going with a Termi Librarian to get Sustained hits before
@@jamesbgood25 yes, chappy is still valid, sometimes you don’t fight on vowed objectives
Makes sense. The oath target may not always be on the vowed objective either. 🤔
Lion got too old for a 2 Damage sweep.
Lol, true😂
Both are solid lists Yuri. Any changes I’d make would be due to model collection. I have no Inner Circle Companions because there were just awful upon release. Would like swap out for Blade Guard?
BG are pretty good as well, pretty much a clean swap imho
I bought two boxes immediately and just proxied them as bladeguard till next now
Great video with a lot of good advice 👍
Vith lists looks really interesting, bit uf someone (me) would insist on running hellblasters how would adjust these two lists?
Also, which weapons would you run in the repulsor? I am leaning towards max las-weapons but the las-talons feel quite mediocre 🤔
I’d not run them in Gladius, but I’d definitely take Azrael+Hellblasters+Repulsor combo in IC instead of normal terminators+chaplain, and cut one JPI
For repulsor - I’d take las, because the Gatling is a bit meh without RRs to wound to fish for dev.
Thanks for the reply 👍
While it might not be opti al, I might still force Hellblasters into the Gladius as they are my favourite unit 😆
Absolutely! Rule of cool works
@@Rasmus.Elnegaardrun two packs of 10 hellblasters
One with Azrael and one with maybe a librarian or something, and give them fire discipline
40 plasma shots raining down will make anyone crap their pants
Then add like dreads and such to be scary for support so they don't get ruined in melee
doesn't Azrael grant the deathwing keyword to his attached squad for the Eradicators?
He can’t join them, otherwise he totally would and it would be an awesome combo
@@vfminiatures lol well thats no good. Great video as always 💪😎
@shark3y06 thank you🤗
I think I am too new to 40k for this video. Mostly went over my head 😂
Let me know if have any questions- I’d be happy to answer them 🤗
Awesome video. I plan on trying both lists. What weapon layout are you using on your repulsor?
Thank you! I’d probably do las
I know my friend just wants to play a terminator army with terminator HQs . And it really doesn't work.
Lion sweep is only dam1 sadly 😢
Yep, mixed up with G-man
Nice list. You'r cutting the fat
My wife is getting me the ultimate starter kit for my birthday. What's the bare minimum I need to turn That starter army to dark angels? My kids are going to play the nids.
Firstly, congrats! I hope your kids enjoy warhammer 💪💪💪
Next - you get 1 5 man squad of termies, 5 Infernus marines and 2 characters for SM, so not much for sure. It’s about 1/8 of what you’d need for an actual 2K list. Let me know if I can have any other questions 🤗
@vfminiatures ok, thank you. I was hoping there was a way to transition that starter army to dark angels to play against the nids that come with it. Thanks for the reply and info.
@DEATHREAPER330 you can definitely start playing models inside as the dark angels for a very small format army. Same for nids for your kids. It will be just a bit strange to have just 3-4 units each, but it’s playable. I’m pretty sure that box comes with something like “combat patrol” rules, which are close to what we use in big 40k, almost the same. It won’t be Dark angels themed I think, just generic marines, but it’s good for a beginner. You should start there and slowly get going building your army up💪 Good luck 👍
@@vfminiatures i will at least paint them how i want to do my dark angels army so when i do get there they can fit in.
@DEATHREAPER330 great idea, that’s definitely helpful
Still no the Kitty ? Tsk tsk tsk
He’s very good now, I’ve added him to melee damage category