Enjoyed your presentation. I don't need to tell you how good the RX10 is. I've been a hobbyist photographer for 20 years now working my way up to Canon full frame and lenses. I got tired of lugging them around. 4 years ago, I traded/sold off my equipment and purchased the RX10 IV and never looked back. The results from the camera are just fantastic and combined with the zoom range and 4K video, I think it's an unbeatable combination. I now exclusively use the RX10 and DJI Action 3 for all my travel videos for UA-cam and could not be happier.
I've subscribed to DPReview for years, and see the constant flow of new cameras, but nothing has tempted me since getting the RX several years ago. While battery life and low light shooting are sometimes challenging, it's a very steady performer as long as it is used correctly. Very nice review and worthy samples. Thank you.
Thank you. I am gonna purchase these cameras one for myself and one for my under 16 year old classes so they all have the same set up will make my life a lot easier
Wow! Amazing pictures... If you don't say anything and mix them up with some pictures taken with an "advanced" full frame cameras, I'm sure most of us couldn't tell which is which. I think we all are here for the same, tired to carry bags with gear and changing lenses, most of all when we are traveling trying to relax. We all want to know how much quality have to "sacrifice" for more freedom, and after seeing your pictures I think the compromise is very acceptable! I have to get one of those. Incredible that an almost 7 year old camera still is king in the bridge category. Shame that Sony discontinued this branch. I can only imagine what would a RX10MV could bring us today seeing how amazing its predecessor still is. Thanks for sharing!
Thank you. That’s not a bad Igea for a video. I know I wish they would come out with a new one but that would kill the mirrorless dark sales I am sure.
Hi Angie. Well.. either that DXO does miracles, or my RX10iv has had issues from day 1 with noise and poor colour rendition. I originally purchased it a few years back to replace my Nikon D810 and the heavy lenses that I had to carry around. I found the video performance to be pretty good. The photo performance for landscapes left me with images i had to really push in post-processing to get anything I was remotely happy with. Your results in this video are simply amazing!
Nice review - I use my RX10 IV (2 of them) alot special when I am on expeditions/offshore sailing :) - compact and very good. The second RX10 IV I use this mostly on my DJI Rs3 Pro Gimbal and works fine.
Once video! I do really regret selling my RX10 IV 2 or 3 years ago. I am primarily a bird photographer and had a lot of good times with the Sony. When ILC cameras with subject detection showed up I went to one of those and haven’t looked back. Now if Sony were to do an RX10 V with subject detection I would probably buy two of them. I wish I had kept mine for travel photography. The way it is now I end up taking a body and 3 lenses just to match the focal length of the Sony. I really miss that camera.
Yes it is an amazing little camera and with a updated focus system it would be off the charts!! that is probably why they haven't done it yet might hurt the Mirrorless DSLR sales. Hope they do update it though I would have one in my bag!!
@wtfstop I've researched the heck out of cameras over the last month for an upcoming trip next July to Svalbard. Norway (arctic expedition cruise). Honestly, I’ve spent over 100 hours reviewing YT videos on everything out there… I don't own any "proper" camera right now. I just bought and returned the Nikon Z8 (way too complicated and with the lenses that I'd need to cover the focal lengths I’d need will set me back $6,500). I also bought and returned the Sony A6700 which seemed like a kid's toy in my hands. I'm now thinking that this camera may fit the bill. I’m convinced that to get a good camera that can give you this range of focal length whether FF, APS-C or 4/3 including “decent” tracking AF, shutter speeds > 10fps, at least 20MP and 4K30 - you’re going to spend around $1800-$2000 for the body alone. The used market for a camera in exc. condition doesn’t save you much. Add the minimum 2 lenses you’ll need (24-120) and (200-600) that will add an additional $2,500. In for $4,500. This camera checks all the boxes. My biggest concern was low light capability and reduced bokeh. You showed some nice shots at low light. TY. I’m a retired marketing exec and I believe the reason they will NEVER upgrade this model is that it will blow away all the mirrorless models and lens combos that they are making a ton of dough on - other than for prof/semi prof usage. When this model was released the post editing software was just coming of age. The top complaints when reviewed (back in 2018) was noise in low light situations, poor bokeh control and reduced sharpness at long focal. I think the proliferation of software like Topaz Denoise, Adobe LR and/or Luminar Neo takes care of these concerns handily. If they just upgraded the chip to increase buffer (then add CFexpress) and AF subject detection and left everything else as is - there’d be NO reason for any casual user, hobbyist or enthusiast to buy anything else. At $2000 it would literally own the market… IMHO we’ll never see a RX-10 V. Never.
Gray market - no USA warrantee - if that doesn't bother you, you might as well get used...See this from Abes: "Brand New Factory Fresh Import Model" - so you'll have to get their extra warrantee to be safe (+$299)...PS: no longer on sale as of 7/7.
Thanks for the video. Im using a canon r6ii and r6 with high quality lenses for my work. But now i want a camera i can travel with and dont hurt my Back. Is this good for travling? And are the quality of the pictures good? Maybe someone can sent me a 600mm file so i can check it out 😅 im in the usa next month there i can buy one....
This camera has a timed switch off and it automatically retreacts the lens. Unfortunately the lens caught the camera bag and it sounds like the gearing jumped some teeth. Now the lens won't fully extend. Is this easily fixable, please anyone?
0:43 no, it is not 600 mm at f4, it is 600 mm at f10,8 (FF equiv) or 220 mm at f4. You can not apply crop factor multiplier selectively to only one side of equasion, maths doesn't work like that.
Thank you for your input! I understand your point about the crop factor and its effect on both the focal length and aperture. To clarify, the Sony RX10 IV has an 8.8-220mm f/2.4-4 lens on a 1-inch sensor, which gives it a field of view equivalent to a 24-600mm lens on a full-frame sensor. However, the depth of field and light-gathering ability remain those of the f/2.4-4 lens. When considering the crop factor (2.7x for a 1-inch sensor), you need to adjust for depth of field and field of view. For instance, at 220mm and f/4, the effective focal length is 600mm (full-frame equivalent), but the depth of field would be similar to that of a 600mm lens at approximately f/10.8 on a full-frame camera. The light-gathering ability remains f/4. The only time both are effected is when you add a teleconverter to it the you add 1.4 or 2.0 to both side.
I've read a lot lately about how good Neo's RAW Develop tool is, especially as the first step in Post. Do you still feel that the Dx Pure RAW 3 (and saving the output as a TIF) the best way to begin editing in Neo? (I have the RX 10 iv) and love it.
The RX10iv is TOO good. That's why Sony stopped developing them. You will never see a V,. Why? Because the money is in the lens sales and this camera potentially cannibalizes low and mid range interchangeable Sony cameras and most importatantly LENSES that cover the range this camera covers.
SPOT on. You nailed it. IMHO if they were smart marketers with just a few minor tweaks they'd own the market for anyone other than pro/semi pro. Their unit sales would totally over shadow lost lens sales. There's no competition - they'd steal all the "consumer" sales from EVERY other manufacturer - not just their own...
@@billr6983 Totally agree with you. As a form factor, the camera companies cannot make as much with this form as with interchangeable lenses and camera bodies.
@@barryinnyThat's my thinking as well. By being a major player if not owning the space, there would be so much market space here for SONY. That would leave the higher end cameras more strictly for professional use. As is, it appears SONY (as well as the others) are literally FORCING us to have to go with the interchangeable lenses and higher end cameras if we are to own cameras at all. I think this will backfire and most average consumers and hobbyists will go with the bridge cameras and cellphones and older models if not for no other reason than price. Then it will be a smart if not business savvy move to THEN make an RX-10IV upgrade and the makers who stay in the space will have a leg up. Give it 2-3 years max.
Not really... The P1000 is 16MP vs 20MP; 1/2.3" vs 1"; F8 at the ridiculous long lengths vs F4; 7fps vs 20fps; I'm no expert but I'd get this only if I needed that 3000mm range...
Enjoyed your presentation. I don't need to tell you how good the RX10 is. I've been a hobbyist photographer for 20 years now working my way up to Canon full frame and lenses. I got tired of lugging them around. 4 years ago, I traded/sold off my equipment and purchased the RX10 IV and never looked back. The results from the camera are just fantastic and combined with the zoom range and 4K video, I think it's an unbeatable combination. I now exclusively use the RX10 and DJI Action 3 for all my travel videos for UA-cam and could not be happier.
I have seriously considered the same thing all this gear is heavy and is starting to take the fun out of it.
I've subscribed to DPReview for years, and see the constant flow of new cameras, but nothing has tempted me since getting the RX several years ago. While battery life and low light shooting are sometimes challenging, it's a very steady performer as long as it is used correctly. Very nice review and worthy samples. Thank you.
Thank you. I am gonna purchase these cameras one for myself and one for my under 16 year old classes so they all have the same set up will make my life a lot easier
Wow! Amazing pictures... If you don't say anything and mix them up with some pictures taken with an "advanced" full frame cameras, I'm sure most of us couldn't tell which is which. I think we all are here for the same, tired to carry bags with gear and changing lenses, most of all when we are traveling trying to relax. We all want to know how much quality have to "sacrifice" for more freedom, and after seeing your pictures I think the compromise is very acceptable! I have to get one of those. Incredible that an almost 7 year old camera still is king in the bridge category. Shame that Sony discontinued this branch. I can only imagine what would a RX10MV could bring us today seeing how amazing its predecessor still is. Thanks for sharing!
Thank you. That’s not a bad Igea for a video. I know I wish they would come out with a new one but that would kill the mirrorless dark sales I am sure.
Great images. That dove looks so beautiful
Thank you
I have had tons of fun doing IR work with it … you once you get the custom white balance down it can be really fun
Nice That is something i have wanted to explore.
Hi Angie. Well.. either that DXO does miracles, or my RX10iv has had issues from day 1 with noise and poor colour rendition. I originally purchased it a few years back to replace my Nikon D810 and the heavy lenses that I had to carry around. I found the video performance to be pretty good. The photo performance for landscapes left me with images i had to really push in post-processing to get anything I was remotely happy with. Your results in this video are simply amazing!
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Nice review - I use my RX10 IV (2 of them) alot special when I am on expeditions/offshore sailing :) - compact and very good. The second RX10 IV I use this mostly on my DJI Rs3 Pro Gimbal and works fine.
When using on the gimbal are you able to zoom as well?
@@wtfstop With the righ cable, yes.
@@djspecialpaul I am gonna have to give it a try
@@wtfstop Ok :)
Awesome presentation!
Thank you for your kind words! I really appreciate your support.
Once video! I do really regret selling my RX10 IV 2 or 3 years ago. I am primarily a bird photographer and had a lot of good times with the Sony. When ILC cameras with subject detection showed up I went to one of those and haven’t looked back. Now if Sony were to do an RX10 V with subject detection I would probably buy two of them. I wish I had kept mine for travel photography. The way it is now I end up taking a body and 3 lenses just to match the focal length of the Sony. I really miss that camera.
Yes it is an amazing little camera and with a updated focus system it would be off the charts!! that is probably why they haven't done it yet might hurt the Mirrorless DSLR sales. Hope they do update it though I would have one in my bag!!
I’m on my 4th ..
I really wish they would come out with a new version I would buy one or two traveling with all this gear is tough
@wtfstop I've researched the heck out of cameras over the last month for an upcoming trip next July to Svalbard. Norway (arctic expedition cruise). Honestly, I’ve spent over 100 hours reviewing YT videos on everything out there…
I don't own any "proper" camera right now. I just bought and returned the Nikon Z8 (way too complicated and with the lenses that I'd need to cover the focal lengths I’d need will set me back $6,500). I also bought and returned the Sony A6700 which seemed like a kid's toy in my hands. I'm now thinking that this camera may fit the bill.
I’m convinced that to get a good camera that can give you this range of focal length whether FF, APS-C or 4/3 including “decent” tracking AF, shutter speeds > 10fps, at least 20MP and 4K30 - you’re going to spend around $1800-$2000 for the body alone. The used market for a camera in exc. condition doesn’t save you much. Add the minimum 2 lenses you’ll need (24-120) and (200-600) that will add an additional $2,500. In for $4,500.
This camera checks all the boxes. My biggest concern was low light capability and reduced bokeh. You showed some nice shots at low light. TY.
I’m a retired marketing exec and I believe the reason they will NEVER upgrade this model is that it will blow away all the mirrorless models and lens combos that they are making a ton of dough on - other than for prof/semi prof usage.
When this model was released the post editing software was just coming of age. The top complaints when reviewed (back in 2018) was noise in low light situations, poor bokeh control and reduced sharpness at long focal. I think the proliferation of software like Topaz Denoise, Adobe LR and/or Luminar Neo takes care of these concerns handily.
If they just upgraded the chip to increase buffer (then add CFexpress) and AF subject detection and left everything else as is - there’d be NO reason for any casual user, hobbyist or enthusiast to buy anything else. At $2000 it would literally own the market… IMHO we’ll never see a RX-10 V. Never.
Wow nice stills. Keep it up mam. Love from India.
Thank you
I too have the Sony rx10 - great all round camera and you don't have to carry around multiple lenses.
Very true!!
Fabulous video - THANKYOU
I have had a RX10 for 1 year - ITS AMAZING FOR BIRDING if you want to carry a scope and binoculars - HIGHLY RECOMMENDED
Thanks for watching yes Bino’s are needed.
Fantastic camera, and it is on sale now at Abes of Maine for $1195.
Awesome
Got one of off Mpb for 960
Thats a great deal
@@MrBillkaz
Gray market - no USA warrantee - if that doesn't bother you, you might as well get used...See this from Abes: "Brand New Factory Fresh Import Model" - so you'll have to get their extra warrantee to be safe (+$299)...PS: no longer on sale as of 7/7.
Thanks for the video. Im using a canon r6ii and r6 with high quality lenses for my work. But now i want a camera i can travel with and dont hurt my Back. Is this good for travling? And are the quality of the pictures good? Maybe someone can sent me a 600mm file so i can check it out 😅 im in the usa next month there i can buy one....
@@gladysvanschaijk4647 sure send me a email and I would be happy to send you some samples Un edited I can also send you a link to B&H to buy one
This camera has a timed switch off and it automatically retreacts the lens. Unfortunately the lens caught the camera bag and it sounds like the gearing jumped some teeth. Now the lens won't fully extend. Is this easily fixable, please anyone?
I would reach out to Sony they have a multiple service centers in the us
0:43 no, it is not 600 mm at f4, it is 600 mm at f10,8 (FF equiv) or 220 mm at f4. You can not apply crop factor multiplier selectively to only one side of equasion, maths doesn't work like that.
Thank you for your input! I understand your point about the crop factor and its effect on both the focal length and aperture. To clarify, the Sony RX10 IV has an 8.8-220mm f/2.4-4 lens on a 1-inch sensor, which gives it a field of view equivalent to a 24-600mm lens on a full-frame sensor. However, the depth of field and light-gathering ability remain those of the f/2.4-4 lens.
When considering the crop factor (2.7x for a 1-inch sensor), you need to adjust for depth of field and field of view. For instance, at 220mm and f/4, the effective focal length is 600mm (full-frame equivalent), but the depth of field would be similar to that of a 600mm lens at approximately f/10.8 on a full-frame camera. The light-gathering ability remains f/4.
The only time both are effected is when you add a teleconverter to it the you add 1.4 or 2.0 to both side.
I've read a lot lately about how good Neo's RAW Develop tool is, especially as the first step in Post. Do you still feel that the Dx Pure RAW 3 (and saving the output as a TIF) the best way to begin editing in Neo? (I have the RX 10 iv) and love it.
If there is noticeable noise in the image, I would say yes run it through DXO first then export to Luminar Neo do you use Lightroom at all?
I use a combination of Lightroom topaz photo AI DXO pure raw and Neo. It just all depends on the image is where I start.
4000 iso. I find anything above iso 250 becomes noisy. Did you use any de noise software
@@smooth111012 yes I used dxo pure raw 3 as stated in video I even when through how to use dxo pure raw
@@wtfstop yes I noticed as I watched more of the video
Is that software available on iPad do you know?
@@smooth111012 not that I know of but Luminar Neo is
@@smooth111012 No but Luminar Neo is and thier denoise is pretty good as well.
The RX10iv is TOO good. That's why Sony stopped developing them. You will never see a V,. Why? Because the money is in the lens sales and this camera potentially cannibalizes low and mid range interchangeable Sony cameras and most importatantly LENSES that cover the range this camera covers.
Oh ya totally agree
SPOT on. You nailed it. IMHO if they were smart marketers with just a few minor tweaks they'd own the market for anyone other than pro/semi pro. Their unit sales would totally over shadow lost lens sales. There's no competition - they'd steal all the "consumer" sales from EVERY other manufacturer - not just their own...
@@billr6983 Totally agree with you. As a form factor, the camera companies cannot make as much with this form as with interchangeable lenses and camera bodies.
@@barryinnyThat's my thinking as well. By being a major player if not owning the space, there would be so much market space here for SONY. That would leave the higher end cameras more strictly for professional use. As is, it appears SONY (as well as the others) are literally FORCING us to have to go with the interchangeable lenses and higher end cameras if we are to own cameras at all. I think this will backfire and most average consumers and hobbyists will go with the bridge cameras and cellphones and older models if not for no other reason than price. Then it will be a smart if not business savvy move to THEN make an RX-10IV upgrade and the makers who stay in the space will have a leg up. Give it 2-3 years max.
I am really hoping they release a mark 5 I use this camera in my youth photography classes and a upgraded tracking would be amazing
U forgot the Nikon Coolpix as the real contender
Yes I did!
Not really... The P1000 is 16MP vs 20MP; 1/2.3" vs 1"; F8 at the ridiculous long lengths vs F4; 7fps vs 20fps; I'm no expert but I'd get this only if I needed that 3000mm range...
@@barryinny Very true The RX10iv is #1 in its category, at least in my option.
still waiting rx10v 😅😅
Me too
I wrote a thesis earlier - I don't think so...
it is now F2.4 and not F2.8
Yes, I realized that last week but I can't change it now, unfortunately
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Looks like someone's keyboard went on a wild typing spree! 😄