What an OPENING! SD2 Monthly Tournament Game 2 on Shchedrin- Steel Division 2
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- Опубліковано 30 вер 2024
- 🕹️ In this video, we dive deep into game 2 between Jaapaasa vs. Koenig in the January Monthly Tournament! They are on Shchedrin with Festung Dunkirchen vs. 2nd Blindee! Whether you're a seasoned general or new to the front, there's something here for everyone!
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I am still angry for Eugen saying they would release a map editor in 2021 and then just quietly dropping the matter.
we all are. we all are
Koenig called the JPanther play from the start. Awesome play. I almost quit after that and the AA piece surrender, luckily didn't as the game turned out to be great.
Had the opening not been as terrible maybe I could have won this one. Still, well played by Koenig as always!
Yeah when it comes to the Jagdpanther like that I would have been terrified to deploy it until the front line solidified a bit in the early game. its just such a valuable unit and I know I am being too risk averse.
yeeee ole' jagggy pee
Well played by you too ! You was close to win 👍
I was a bit too relaxed after my opening, big mistake 😂
Great match, really fun to watch!
Ah yes, who could forget when the French, after breaking out of the Normandy deadlock, simply sped around in their jeeps and half-tracks hunting down German tanks in the field with bazookas, as if taking a page out of the drive-by-shooting book of prohibition era US.
It's the progenitor of the bazooka vespa, clearly.
Chicago style anti tank tactics lol
You should definitely read some history about stuff that happened in ww2. Maybe start with the medal of honor recipients and their stories. youd be surprised
@@klauskeller6380 I feel like if real life troops fought the way these guys in game did there would have been a lot more medals of honor handed out lol. Not to disrespect real war heroes I'm just commenting on the stupid stuff that works in this game when it definitely shouldn't haha
Not sure about ww2, but nowadays at teams on bikes are a thing!
jagdpanther have heavy tank HP but panther not. very logical
Just found my Sempai in the comments. How many years.., but will recognize this avatar among thousands.
eugen logic. air tight
I agree off map is annoying but the destruction of cities and all their buildings was what happened in WW2. Eugen has always been very historically accurate, so it makes sense
Yeah, I actually think its in a pretty place at this point
I would of quit if my jagpanther died like that
Most I think would of haha
*Edit, AtkPwr the situation with the Marder 3 and the M10 the Marder III is the one equipped with the Russian Zis-3 gun so it can only pen 105mm of armor max so at 1500 meter range 75mm of armor is really a tough thing to beat and if you were going by the real life penetration characteristics it would be nearly impossible at that range.
you know It would probably be hell but I would love a map that is in a large city where its mostly streets&buildings with parks in the middle area and patches of farmland on the outskirts of the map. almost like you are fighting in Berlin or some other large city.
But the Marder 3 has 130 mm of pen, its not a normal zis 2 gun
@@atkpwrgaming when I was looking at it I saw only 105mm a pen but I guess I should check again when I'm back at my pc
As I understand it, in order to make maps work in SD2 you need to custom program the AI to function on the map. That's why they can't just move the flags to fix some of the maps.
A bad decision when designing the game. At least they learned from it on Warno.
Yeah we can only hope it continue to improve
I mean it is realistic... Ruins are by far the best cover for infantry which is the reason battles like Stalingrad exist
Truth, but that doesn't lead to fun gameplay
Very nice game! I was shocked that the IG33 didn't do squat in this game. But I guess the arty countered them and/or they were caught with their pants down.
On the topic of half-tracks: What would be ways to counter them at the moment? Anti-Tank rifles? Leaders that prevent surrendering?
Light armor, rocket infantry AT does best
50 cal should be miles better than other mgs. Totally different suppression from the big rounds impacting, rips through cover and light armour, and also the effect on targets...
Keep up the good work 👍
Thank you!
Not just a map editor, but a scenario creator would be huge. Set up a defensive map, w where to place initial AI units. There was an old Close Combat mod with this.
Thanks for the casts.
The map editor is so unlikely a scenario creator is asking for the world haha
Cheese? Heroic more like, hehe.. that opening. JK get you point. White wine by the way.. I'm not fancy, the cheapest one you got. Nice fight. Also, are you holding back yawn's AtkPwr? hehe, thanks for the content, but you should get some sleep :)
I am holding back some yawns hahaha always working
@@atkpwrgaming hehe, keep it up :)
Honestly, after start like this i don't feel like i really wanna watch a game. Really bad feeling bc of this lvl of stupidity that's actually a one of the serious problems, when devs try to play in "historical accuracy" and then u have half of the game with idiotic mechanics which is never changes cause it's "historical accurate" and other half where nobody care about accuracy at all.
As example.
I don't see even 1 division with ok amount of Jagdpanthers, in 1944 germans produce up to 450(by some info, but wiki say's 413)units, when in game we have 5? Maybe i just can't remember division which have all this things, but 1 on the div? srsly?I mean it's almost same amount of the KT in 1944, but what a difference between quantity in the game.
Or ability of inf AT bazooka cannot pen 180mm in 1944, PZF too, and many other things, but yeah they change a fallshimjagers bc its inacurate.
I'm just upset bc of the start of the game.
the Jagdpanthers got deployed rather evenly across several divisions which is why they are so rare in game as most divisions could only call upon a handful at most if they had them at all. the King Tiger on the other hand was only given out to special "elite" troop formations so they were clustered into the hands of only a few divisions meaning that across the game there are only a few options if you want them in your deck but you do get to have a couple of them if you do want them.
as for the Bazooka/Panzerfaust issue it was to try to balance out how infantry used to be really bad a long time ago in the game, because of the size of the maps the actual range and penetration of these weapons would have been to ineffective to reflect how deadly they really were in reality. most tanks during WW2 were destroyed by infantry, then AT guns and finally other Tanks.
@@dominuslogik484 no, inf not destroy most of the tanks. It's really small amount if we talk about PZF. It still best inf weapon against tanks, but AT guns and other tanks much more effective. U can find info(about the source too) on the Military History Visualized "How effective panzerfaust was" or something like that, infantry can't destroy most of the tanks bc in reality they don't move with 20 km/h.
@@midclash592 the majority of tank losses on all sides of WW2 were caused by infantry and with AT guns being a close second. the reason being is that the Panzerfaust was an ambush weapon and as the fighting went into the cities and forests tank loses rose sharply from infantry engagements.
I watched Military History Visualized as well and he stated that the panzerfaust was effective. you have to remember that during WW2 in order to aim and shoot tanks had to stop and would often not be moving much faster than about walking pace when they were supporting infantry so it was extremely easy to hit them with handheld anti tank weapons the same way RPG-7 are used to ambush modern tanks from close range.
@@dominuslogik484 it's efficient in terms of inf weapon, but AT guns is not inf weapon. Watch video again, its 264 kills(PZF) vs almost 2000(AT guns) in 1944(and around 8000 in general from all weapon ). I think it's obvious that AT guns create much more problem for enemy tanks than PZF.
@@midclash592 I said that most tank loses came from infantry not from the panzer Faust specifically. the panzerfaust was effective but infantry specifically were a massive threat to tanks.
A classic.
Agreed!
We can't trust him anymore... He recommended the-strike-whose-name-must-not-be-named (coughs in all languages known to mankind)... the world... when did it become such a cruel place...
Jokes aside, great game! The Jagdpanther play from Koenig was phenomenal, with swift decisionmaking, really loved that. Great game as well, it was entertaining and interesting to watch!
Hahaha, it burned me, but I am trying to be honest haha
this was the first map I played a ranked match on and I won pretty well. I played 7th Eesti Laskurdiviis and my opponent played 29-ya Tankovy Korpus I think. I just remember that all his tanks were T34/85 and he used a lot of artillery that he clustered up really bad and there was pretty low numbers of infantry on the board compared to my deck so he couldn't push me out of the town.
You and 7th estimated haha
Also I found an error on Konigs Part
Why was he bringing in AA against dunkurk
I mean they still planes, many pro players just always bring it up
I need you cool, are you cool?
Running around robbing banks all wacked on a Scoobie snack
hahaha
Is there any news about balance or other updates?
Nope, guessing in the next month or two
festung vanguard. love it already.
a fun game for sure!
"In a week or two "
"map editor "
Lol
yes, everything comes with a secret "maybe" haha
So entertaining game to watch!!
Agreed!
please dont try to say erdkampflafette, or lern hoew to do it. its so bad. how about only using lafette? not like you have a other unit with the name. ps: yes i am german and i am disgusted from your try xD
I am sorry for that haha