Hey Gang! We bought some new microphones but they don't seem to be set quite right! please bear with us as we break them in! By far the strangest thing we ever found in a "running" Engine! -Strong's Garage
Just recently released from the hospital with permission to open christmas gifts early as I just might not make it that long, same thing said to me a few times, the take away from that is I don't believe them. I would so dearly love to play in your shop. Been a mechanic for the most part, all my life, but that is a stretch in one way..... I got hurt bad in 2005, have not walked since ... I got my spine crushed so its kinda hard to get around, you throw in a little arthritis and its even harder to make that speed run to the family liquor store. Thats okay to cause I quit drinking 27 years ago. I started helping dad in his garage in the late fifties. He had bought a shop building that belonged to the ford motor company.It sat empty for a good many years as the need for a big garage in a town where the population went from thousands to a few hundred, they were mostly loggers so they tended not to be great customers. While they built the two dams, one at Nehalem and then one at Diablo, that one called the Ross Dam was a huge project and took years to complete. Once built tho, it only required a few employees to operate. Hence fall of this garage that had thousands of parts in boxes or cosmoline and that stuff smelled terrible. Dad hauled all those brand new parts to the dump which should of been criminal. No one wanted old model a or such years of parts, or body parts. I finally convinced him to go back and see if any remained but the county just bulldozed them into pits. Very sad to see the machines or parts go. I too had a model a as a driver cause it couldn't go fast so dad said okay to me owning it. That was in 1961 so long long gone. You kids just inspire me to see the excitement on your faces as you find or discover a new tool. Watching you tear down the model B engine brought back a good bunch of memories
I had a friend that was the service manager for a |Dodge dealership in the 1970's. One day a guy brought in a 1949 Dodge pickup for a complete tuneup. He had just bought it to drive from Illinois to California where he was moving to. After new plugs and points and oil change it still didn't seem to be running right so they made the decision to pull the head on the flathead six and when they did they found a chunk of firewood wedged in the #3 cylinder instead of a piston. It appeared that a wrist pin had come loose and grovved the cylinder so a previous owner just removed the piston and put a chunk of wood in to block off the hole. They told the owner about it and he just had them put it back together and drove it as is to California successfully on five.
What you guys do and the channel you've created to share with us is an absolute treasure. Theres an endless amount of people and channels showing upgrades and modern conversions which is fine but knowing how to keep these old beauties original and using mostly period correct tools and methods is nothing short of priceless. Thank you from those who truly appreciate your talents
Just a family story. In 1932 my father bough a new 1932 Ford V8 Victoria. These were only available from the factory with a V8, no "B 4 cyl". This one was so bad in oil consumption that the dealer took it back and gave Dad another one, just a different color (Green to black as I remember ). This one was also an oil burner and as a result the dealer converted it to a "B". Don't know if this was factory fix or the dealer wanted to keep our family business. This was in Boston Mass in 1932. Somewhere in my collection I have photos of the second one with the V8 emblem on the bar with the 4 cylinder engine. ??????
Looks like a builder to me,get your bearings repoured,machine your guides , turn or replace your flywheel ,new clutch parts ,rajo head,burn some rubber
I'm 72 and cut my teeth on repairing cars with my bothers 30 model A when I was 15. Learned every end of it. Use to buy brand new parts from Job Lot Ford in Queens Village NY.
Well, that was a real let down.. Still a great episode and my thanks for taking us along.. and at least you don't have to face an angry customer with the bad news! 😉
This show is now my favourite! Your knowledge for these engines is amazing! What have I been doing with my life?🤪”Your running engine ran away!” I also love all your vintage equipment, right down to the engine stand!
Matt, Jim, love the show! Or should I say "it's the Jim show and Matt helped!" Just kidding. I do hope Matt recovers very soon. A running engine isn't always the case but love all the technical work and the use of the old tools and equipment. Continue the entertaining show. Cheers from Ohio
Well you see the teardown is a good idea. Because your project may ..hinge on what you find. now that you have pinned things down. You can find the path that makes the most ..cents. The customer installed windowed block option while it creates great crankcase ventilation. tends to be a power robber. You should do a good look over that engine because you have proof that the last person to work on it came unhinged. I think the strangest thing i have found in an engine was an unopened plastic box of tic tacs in the valve cover of a ford 300 inline 6
Great to see some Early Ford dirty hands content. I feel bad now for using a modern impact driver on my flatheads. Great to see all the old tools in use. I await with interest your next move. Mart in England.
That definitely wasn't a lucky penny you found in the engine. Will be following along with the project and hope there won't be any other bad surprises. Take care.
Hi Guys. Love the channel. Maybe it's because grandpa had two Model A pickups. One a original pickup, the other was a chopped off sedan with a flatbed. Commercial fisherman dailys. And my uncle Robert had a 34 three window with a rumble seat, flathead V-8.
At one shop I was working I got to do a bunch of work on a '30 model A. What passes as a rear main seal was not doing it's job, so dropped the pan to replace the gasket, and in the pan were several pieces of sheet metal I took a few minutes to figure out where they came from. They were in the pistons originally as piston reinforcements, and a couple had broken out. I was told to just put it back together and get it running and leave it at that. Ignition problem was a bad condenser, and had to clean the carb. Neat older restoration likely with original engine or a pretty tired replacement, but not the B engine. Water pump packing was leaking, but owner was just getting it sold and didn't want to turn it into the upcoming bottomless money pit.
This is the Red Green show with antique auto engines. I have 4 t's and a tt truck which I haven't restored yet. I buying an 'A' to go modern - I found a Ford tractor wrench in the bottom of my 1917 oil pan, no money yet -
Hey guys love the channel please keep it up but what I wanted to tell you guys I was watching one of your videos from 7 months ago … the folk art model a roadster pick up and you have only one tool to pull the head off and was wondering if you could take the broken spark plug that you said you could rebuild those plugs because they were 2 or 3 pieces and make your self a tool out of that old plug just a thought.
Good thing you guys looked inside her. Insert bearings are better but requires line boring. I like the B motor it has a different cam,(touring grind) carb and intake manifold (bigger) and I think even the oil pump shaft has a smaller diameter (turned down for a higher volume of oil to rise up) to deliver more oil to the cam area. You can put the fuel pump on the shelf and make a delete cover for that hole, gravity will supply more than needed fuel. Looking good. Thanks for the video.
Fuel pump, frame mounted gas tank, centrifugal distributor advance, conventional 3 speed manual transmission, quite a few changes from the Model T to the Model B.
I have never been pleasantly surprised by this process yet on the HAMB they are all about running old pulled engines. I even disassembled an unrun rebuilt flathead that had a 4” crank, a reground cam marked “400 jr.”, new Johnson lifters, new OS pistons, all new bearings. Surprised? Sure, but the case had all sorts of rust powder throughout the inside of the block, slivers and loose burrs where the rods had been “balanced”, also burrs on the reground cam lobes. It had never been started due to porting damage AFTER assembly(dumb as well). Just from how it was built, had it been started it would have been trashed very soon. Similar stories with “running” 4 bangers. Everything from engines to brakes were and are “great” to the seller - until you actually look inside. Almost always a Krylon restoration at best. Just no reason to play “Will it Run?” Of course they will. Just buy two gaskets and act like you know a little something. We aren’t 16yo anymore! Great info here!
Hey guys, your videos are really great,. But I think that they are best with you don't have any time lapse, As every true knuckle breaking, wrench turning craftsman knows The struggle is real ! So go ahead and show it.
rebuilding an engine when it is out of the car and on a stand is a pleasure, I don't understand people who like to leave the engines in the car, that is a huge pain in the neck and takes more time
Quiry???? I wrote to you a few months ago in regards to the alleged higher nickel content of 59 A blocks. We went to Canada in I believe 1957 and brought back 8 59A blocks with the word CANADA on the bell. For some reason these were a much longer short track engine in durability. No other difference to the naked eye but they did survive longer that a regular 59A here in New England. Just a question. Thanks
Cool Model A stuff .Talk about projects ,I own a '50 Dodge Coronet ,I sprayed ether in it and broke the camshaft a long time ago .It would be nice if you guys were closer because it's been on my conscience to get it done . You guys have a nice set-up there .
When my boys were younger they would " help" outside in the garage. I found some strange things in the 32 Ford bb, one time I found about 5 welding rods in the exhaust. Had strange rattle when on the road then I saw what looked like a piece of wood sticking out exhaust it turned out to be a welding rod. I had to put a magnet on a piece of rubber hose n I got about 4 more rods
* Another good vid gents ! Sorry for the junk engine . You never know what's been done over the years till you look aye. If you get time , the movie "Strange Brew" is on UA-cam for free. And thanks again for No Cheeseballs ! Lol ! 👊😎👍
The 'B' engine was a substantial upgrade over the earlier model A engine. Counterbalanced crank & Ricardo design combustion chambers alone make it worth the money. The full pressure to the mains & [I think] to the rods brought Ford kicking & screaming into the late 20's From an engineering standpoint, they were always behind the curve, but at least the Model B was a decent attempt to catch up.
Actually, I believe that trough brought mildly pressurized oil directly from the pump to the main bearings. A huge advantage over the A engine. Thanks for another great video! 👍🏻
That’s a bummer! Thanks for sharing, though, as it’s a great lesson for us on why you should “trust but verify “ when buying something like this. Better to know and work the problem than hope and see a piston fly!
I enjoyed watching the tear down. It just goes to show you that you never know what lurks beneath the oil pan. Now that you know what's there, it might be fun to do some upgrades. I am sure Jim with decide what is best. I've only seen Babits poured once before.
Hay Fella's .haven't seen you guy's around so far this year, Whats up ? I see John over at cold war motors and was just wondering if you guy's are coming back ? Enjoyed watching you guy's in action !
Hey Gang!
We bought some new microphones but they don't seem to be set quite right!
please bear with us as we break them in!
By far the strangest thing we ever found in a "running" Engine!
-Strong's Garage
Mics are sounding good to me! A nice improvement.
Sound a little low? It will make people pay more attention! 😆
Of all things a DOOR HINGE PIN = What a strange thing in a engine block.....Thanks Guy's.....
Shoe🇺🇸
Somebody must have been racing the previous owner and blew his doors off! that's how that pin landed in there. 😂
LMAO
Ah, the old door pin and penny mod. Only true racers know about that one.
Just recently released from the hospital with permission to open christmas gifts early as I just might not make it that long, same thing said to me a few times, the take away from that is I don't believe them. I would so dearly love to play in your shop. Been a mechanic for the most part, all my life, but that is a stretch in one way..... I got hurt bad in 2005, have not walked since ... I got my spine crushed so its kinda hard to get around, you throw in a little arthritis and its even harder to make that speed run to the family liquor store. Thats okay to cause I quit drinking 27 years ago. I started helping dad in his garage in the late fifties. He had bought a shop building that belonged to the ford motor company.It sat empty for a good many years as the need for a big garage in a town where the population went from thousands to a few hundred, they were mostly loggers so they tended not to be great customers. While they built the two dams, one at Nehalem and then one at Diablo, that one called the Ross Dam was a huge project and took years to complete. Once built tho, it only required a few employees to operate. Hence fall of this garage that had thousands of parts in boxes or cosmoline and that stuff smelled terrible. Dad hauled all those brand new parts to the dump which should of been criminal. No one wanted old model a or such years of parts, or body parts. I finally convinced him to go back and see if any remained but the county just bulldozed them into pits. Very sad to see the machines or parts go. I too had a model a as a driver cause it couldn't go fast so dad said okay to me owning it. That was in 1961 so long long gone. You kids just inspire me to see the excitement on your faces as you find or discover a new tool.
Watching you tear down the model B engine brought back a good bunch of memories
I had a friend that was the service manager for a |Dodge dealership in the 1970's. One day a guy brought in a 1949 Dodge pickup for a complete tuneup. He had just bought it to drive from Illinois to California where he was moving to. After new plugs and points and oil change it still didn't seem to be running right so they made the decision to pull the head on the flathead six and when they did they found a chunk of firewood wedged in the #3 cylinder instead of a piston. It appeared that a wrist pin had come loose and grovved the cylinder so a previous owner just removed the piston and put a chunk of wood in to block off the hole. They told the owner about it and he just had them put it back together and drove it as is to California successfully on five.
What you guys do and the channel you've created to share with us is an absolute treasure. Theres an endless amount of people and channels showing upgrades and modern conversions which is fine but knowing how to keep these old beauties original and using mostly period correct tools and methods is nothing short of priceless. Thank you from those who truly appreciate your talents
Using the period correct tools and methods definitely set them apart from the rest.
@@RustyIronProjectsRIP And using the period correct factory OEM parts is amazing!
@@MikeyMack303 very true...
Just as I was finishing my Thursday night update with Scott at CWM, up pops Matt and
Jim at Strong's Garage!! Ding ding!
Rid-O-Skid sounds more like a detergent.
Oh dear, yes it does!
Anybody that can make a b model tare down entertaining are cool guys
Love how you guys make use of the old tools made for the car.
No Pressure
No Diamonds
Classic!!
Thanks!
Like putting grandma on the tredmill....good one
Like putting grandma on the treadmill, Good one Jim! 😂
Matt and Jim ... They have the old tools and know how to use them. 👌
Good investigation guys.
Maybe the first time an engine pitched in a penny on it's rebuilt costs.
Oh yeah yeah those north/south head gaskets, will get ya every time.
I hope you both will rebuild that motor in coming episodes! I'd love to see you refurbish a motor and make it as good as new.
Good call cracking open the block, disaster averted!!!
Looking 4ward to the resurrection, great stuff as always, wishing everyone a great weekend!
Just a family story. In 1932 my father bough a new 1932 Ford V8 Victoria. These were only available from the factory with a V8, no "B 4 cyl". This one was so bad in oil consumption that the dealer took it back and gave Dad another one, just a different color (Green to black as I remember ). This one was also an oil burner and as a result the dealer converted it to a "B". Don't know if this was factory fix or the dealer wanted to keep our family business. This was in Boston Mass in 1932. Somewhere in my collection I have photos of the second one with the V8 emblem on the bar with the 4 cylinder engine. ??????
Looks like a builder to me,get your bearings repoured,machine your guides , turn or replace your flywheel ,new clutch parts ,rajo head,burn some rubber
I had to pause the show to find out what was a 'Babbitt'! Would be nice to have more illustrations and examples for us non-inclined folk!
The engine tear down was very interesting.
Been around 1932 ford's all my life. Going to be 62yrs old and glad to see that there is still an interest in them. Great job and thanks for the video
I'm 72 and cut my teeth on repairing cars with my bothers 30 model A when I was 15. Learned every end of it. Use to buy brand new parts from Job Lot Ford in Queens Village NY.
Well, that was a real let down.. Still a great episode and my thanks for taking us along.. and at least you don't have to face an angry customer with the bad news! 😉
No pressure, no diamonds. And he said it with a straight face!
Hiya Matt and Jim
This show is now my favourite! Your knowledge for these engines is amazing! What have I been doing with my life?🤪”Your running engine ran away!” I also love all your vintage equipment, right down to the engine stand!
GOOD SHTUFF !!!
- Godspeed
Matt, Jim, love the show! Or should I say "it's the Jim show and Matt helped!"
Just kidding. I do hope Matt recovers very soon.
A running engine isn't always the case but love all the technical work and the use of the old tools and equipment. Continue the entertaining show. Cheers from Ohio
We found a wrench with a note wrapped around it with a rubber band in an oil pan. We couldn’t read the note but it was funny. Had a rod knock.
Well you see the teardown is a good idea. Because your project may ..hinge on what you find. now that you have pinned things down. You can find the path that makes the most ..cents. The customer installed windowed block option while it creates great crankcase ventilation. tends to be a power robber. You should do a good look over that engine because you have proof that the last person to work on it came unhinged. I think the strangest thing i have found in an engine was an unopened plastic box of tic tacs in the valve cover of a ford 300 inline 6
Great video, as usual. The main cap bolt heads have a notch on a corner that shows the orientation of the cotter pin hole, to make tightening easier.
More fun at Strong's Garage!
Great to see some Early Ford dirty hands content. I feel bad now for using a modern impact driver on my flatheads. Great to see all the old tools in use. I await with interest your next move. Mart in England.
Dirty hands indeed, old school, no marigolds for these guys👍👍
I look forward to babbitt pouring content!
“No pressure no diamonds.” I’l be using that one in the future. Thanks for another entertaining and informative episode gents!
😃 look forward to the notification every time!
Another entertaining video Sorry about your luck Jim ! Keep on keeping on .
Enjoyed it !
Hinge pin and penny sent up a red flag. More good videos to fix it.
Looks like that engine needs a total rebuild it was missing 3 door hinge pins
That definitely wasn't a lucky penny you found in the engine. Will be following along with the project and hope there won't be any other bad surprises. Take care.
I wouldn’t be that bummed, you have all those good parts for this or another engine. Just the way she goes sometimes. ❤
Reminds me of a MG Midget engine that my buddy had back in the late 60s. it had 3 different pistons in it!
Hi Guys. Love the channel. Maybe it's because grandpa had two Model A pickups. One a original pickup, the other was a chopped off sedan with a flatbed. Commercial fisherman dailys. And my uncle Robert had a 34 three window with a rumble seat, flathead V-8.
Well at least Matt loves to rebuild old engines! 😃
Good call on that tear down guys😎
Nice going, that engine will be back in spec in no time with the two of you on it
I would hang the door pin on wall showing a real barn find motor, love your videos, you guys are the real Lum and Abners of the car world.
You guys are great!
May the Fords be with you! Awesome channel.
"Like putting grandma on the treadmill". I put that one on file. LOL
"It would be like putting grandma on a treadmill". Brilliant.
At one shop I was working I got to do a bunch of work on a '30 model A. What passes as a rear main seal was not doing it's job, so dropped the pan to replace the gasket, and in the pan were several pieces of sheet metal I took a few minutes to figure out where they came from. They were in the pistons originally as piston reinforcements, and a couple had broken out. I was told to just put it back together and get it running and leave it at that. Ignition problem was a bad condenser, and had to clean the carb. Neat older restoration likely with original engine or a pretty tired replacement, but not the B engine. Water pump packing was leaking, but owner was just getting it sold and didn't want to turn it into the upcoming bottomless money pit.
Ah, the best laid plans… Like you said it’s better to find out before you invest time and money in it but it’s a bummer.
The green Chev must be a lot of 💰💰💰💰as I still see 👀 it or are you storing it for now .🤔
Ding ding YEAH!
More quality. Thanks chaps. 👍
This is the Red Green show with antique auto engines. I have 4 t's and a tt truck which I haven't restored yet. I buying an 'A' to go modern - I found a Ford tractor wrench in the bottom of my 1917 oil pan, no money yet -
Hey guys love the channel please keep it up but what I wanted to tell you guys I was watching one of your videos from 7 months ago … the folk art model a roadster pick up and you have only one tool to pull the head off and was wondering if you could take the broken spark plug that you said you could rebuild those plugs because they were 2 or 3 pieces and make your self a tool out of that old plug just a thought.
Another Jim quote I always treasure: "Put grandma on a treadmill..." 😆
Good thing you guys looked inside her. Insert bearings are better but requires line boring. I like the B motor it has a different cam,(touring grind) carb and intake manifold (bigger) and I think even the oil pump shaft has a smaller diameter (turned down for a higher volume of oil to rise up) to deliver more oil to the cam area. You can put the fuel pump on the shelf and make a delete cover for that hole, gravity will supply more than needed fuel. Looking good. Thanks for the video.
You guys are great fun and also a wealth of knowledge!
Matt + Jim, very enjoyable teardown! At least you have a possibly usable, after regrind, counterbalanced crank! Great video. Thanks!
"When you pin it there is a funny knock" . Puts new meaning on it.
Another good video guys. Always best to open them up and check the build quality.
Fuel pump, frame mounted gas tank, centrifugal distributor advance, conventional 3 speed manual transmission, quite a few changes from the Model T to the Model B.
A joy to watch. Really look fwd to ea and every episode. Thank you from NW Illinois.
That engine stand is awesome not to be confused with China Freight
I have never been pleasantly surprised by this process yet on the HAMB they are all about running old pulled engines. I even disassembled an unrun rebuilt flathead that had a 4” crank, a reground cam marked “400 jr.”, new Johnson lifters, new OS pistons, all new bearings. Surprised? Sure, but the case had all sorts of rust powder throughout the inside of the block, slivers and loose burrs where the rods had been “balanced”, also burrs on the reground cam lobes. It had never been started due to porting damage AFTER assembly(dumb as well). Just from how it was built, had it been started it would have been trashed very soon. Similar stories with “running” 4 bangers. Everything from engines to brakes were and are “great” to the seller - until you actually look inside. Almost always a Krylon restoration at best.
Just no reason to play “Will it Run?” Of course they will. Just buy two gaskets and act like you know a little something. We aren’t 16yo anymore! Great info here!
Hey guys, your videos are really great,. But I think that they are best with you don't have any time lapse,
As every true knuckle breaking, wrench turning craftsman knows
The struggle is real !
So go ahead and show it.
Well, at least it was a good deal. Right?
rebuilding an engine when it is out of the car and on a stand is a pleasure, I don't understand people who like to leave the engines in the car, that is a huge pain in the neck and takes more time
Quiry???? I wrote to you a few months ago in regards to the alleged higher nickel content of 59 A blocks. We went to Canada in I believe 1957 and brought back 8 59A blocks with the word CANADA on the bell. For some reason these were a much longer short track engine in durability. No other difference to the naked eye but they did survive longer that a regular 59A here in New England. Just a question. Thanks
Cool Model A stuff .Talk about projects ,I own a '50 Dodge Coronet ,I sprayed ether in it and broke the camshaft a long time ago .It would be nice if you guys were closer because it's been on my conscience to get it done . You guys have a nice set-up there .
All the best to yous and your loved ones
You never know until you get into it.
Sucks when that happens ! nice to see another A with a B engine being built- are you doing the trans to?
When my boys were younger they would " help" outside in the garage. I found some strange things in the 32 Ford bb, one time I found about 5 welding rods in the exhaust. Had strange rattle when on the road then I saw what looked like a piece of wood sticking out exhaust it turned out to be a welding rod. I had to put a magnet on a piece of rubber hose n I got about 4 more rods
Love your videos keep it up
Great video again thankyou! I'm not a fan of the flathead V8 but I have a soft spot for the 4 banger!
I love that air filter. First time I've seen one on an engine that old.
* Another good vid gents ! Sorry for the junk engine . You never know what's been done over the years till you look aye. If you get time , the movie "Strange Brew" is on UA-cam for free. And thanks again for No Cheeseballs ! Lol ! 👊😎👍
The 'B' engine was a substantial upgrade over the earlier model A engine. Counterbalanced crank & Ricardo design combustion chambers alone make it worth the money. The full pressure to the mains & [I think] to the rods brought Ford kicking & screaming into the late 20's
From an engineering standpoint, they were always behind the curve, but at least the Model B was a decent attempt to catch up.
Is that the Ghetto Offenhauser? UNDERHEAD Cam is the way of the FUTURE folks!!
Another great episode. If you were looking for content, you just scored! Rebuild a model b engine step by step. Love your channel
Another enjoyable show guys!
Oh, now you betcha!
Actually, I believe that trough brought mildly pressurized oil directly from the pump to the main bearings. A huge advantage over the A engine. Thanks for another great video! 👍🏻
Well, Jim at least has the Mark 2 which hopefully will be done this year.
Wonderful cine movie! Class!
That’s a bummer! Thanks for sharing, though, as it’s a great lesson for us on why you should “trust but verify “ when buying something like this. Better to know and work the problem than hope and see a piston fly!
Do you have anybody nearby that does babbiting? It's nearly a lost art.
Are you guys going to repair the hole in the side of the original engine block?
I enjoyed watching the tear down. It just goes to show you that you never know what lurks beneath the oil pan. Now that you know what's there, it might be fun to do some upgrades. I am sure Jim with decide what is best. I've only seen Babits poured once before.
Great episode. Thanks guys!
Old Henry made them tough. Just throw in some fresh babbitt, clean oil and let her fly.
Wow, that's one hell of a big flywheel and clutch. V8's are much smaller.
Lol the pin trick for a cheap customer. Lol . Sand in manual trans or dif ,seen it . Bad boss as well. Lol good too see Jim there.
love your guy's interest in old iron. i ran into similar things with my project. cheers
Hay Fella's .haven't seen you guy's around so far this year, Whats up ? I see John over at cold war motors and was just wondering if you guy's are coming back ? Enjoyed watching you guy's in action !