This is kind of funny as there was only a total of like 3 minutes of CG in the movie. Loved it as a kid though. The local video store let you get a free Betamax rental with every rental, I always got Tron.
We worked very hard on Legacy. Thank you for the compliment (I was the modeling supervisor at Digital Domain). I am very curious to see what the design looks like in Ares.
Tron Legacy is one of my fav movies. It was a great balance between story and fan service. I really hope for a good story in Ares. Uprising was surprisingly awesome.
Disney has screwed around way too long with the Tron franchise. I can't blame Boxleitner for distancing himself from them. They did nothing but give him the run-around and ghosting him for years about it. He's being a lot more professional about it then the various producers were to him, that's for sure. Frankly, I'm surprised that Disney hasn't completely destroyed the Tron IP the way they did Star Wars and Indiana Jones. Don't misunderstand me, I LOVED Legacy and the original Tron. And I have to admit that I have high hopes for Ares. But these days I don't trust Disney to do anything except snatch defeat from the jaws of victory. Oh, btw, great video. Subscribed.
So well said I agree so much and they keep on doing it with everyone’s childhood favorites or franchises they grew up on. it’s so bad they are lazy and drop the ball 90% of the time. They mess up simple things like decent story telling or intriguing dialogue or implying things through emotion and context instead of dead dialogue. It’s so frustrating because technology is better than it ever has been and we should have the best of both worlds. They moved out all of the people who actually have passion for these’s IPs and stories because they speak out against they’re total failures or misjudgments they don’t care and just spit out garbage to fill deadlines. We used to live in a world with good storytelling with good morals too now it’s just garbage it’s so bad. Theres obviously still some very good directors and projects out there but there are so little for Disney. This movie is gonna fail and we’ve waited 15 years for it just for them to fuck it up. Star Wars 2.0 except there just gonna cancel it when it doesn’t do as well as expected
@@Vulpine407 also Bruce Boxleightner is an amazing person as an individual. I got to meet him at a convention, had him sign my gambler TV series box set. So professional and super fan friendly as well. You can tell he loves his fans. Disney should be crucified for how they treat their talent.
Tron Legacy was a huge disappointment. They did the character of Tron dirty and completely neutered Alan Bradley. It was a case of someone writing a sequel that didn't understand the original.
Respectfully, this is a bad take. This is the most interesting idea in the franchise since the original film. Seeing elements of the Grid, like the light cycles, interacting with the real world is an exciting plot twist.
A Tron in the real world...of course and it will be...adapted for "modern audiences" and "modern sensibilities"...they will be "binary" genre programs...😅
Of course Kevin Flynn is alive, Tron Legacy ended with Sam having his disc backup on a chip on a necklace, and one of the last songs is called Flynn Lives.
@@normanschur8922 There's little more to tell. I would guess that Flynn exists in Ares as some version of a "Force ghost" like Obi-Wan. A digital version of him that his son could occasionally visit and reconnect with.
No idea why Tron isn't bigger than it is...for me it's been right up there with the biggest franchises. I kept hearing that the fan base was too small but I don't know if I believe that
Tron is a cult classic if you were into video games or scifi in the 90's. When I did my work-study at college in the early 2000's, the 1st icebreaker question was literally if anyone liked the movie Tron, and without exception everyone loved it.
@@RawPowerComicsI loved legacy lmao and it was not a cash grab cause it earned no money 💀 as it released alongside a ton of heavy hitters that it couldn’t compete with in the box office
@@BigRascal It earned no money because it sucked. They WANTED it to be a nostalgia cash grab, but then people went to see it and let everyone know how bad it was.
@@RawPowerComics if we are talking about facts instead of opinions, the movie had a mixed reception. it wasn't great, however it did not technically "suck", thats purely subjective.
I have so little faith in Disney treating their legacy franchises with any amount of respect, I can't even describe how low my expectations for this movie are.
Did you hate Andor? I think it is arguably one of the 5 best TV shows in the history of planet Earth. If you thought it was shit then yeah, you wouldn't think Disney was capable of anything decent in recent years. Agree to disagree.
@@velocitymg I hope so too but taking on a franchise that historically has failed at the box office and only really gathered speed years later is probably not a good gamble.
@@flowrebaz6189 that's a fair point, but I think the reason I didn't immediately have a bad feeling is because I'm guessing his character in the movie is going to be a relatively normal, and most of his recent movies that weren't received well had characters that all were, for various reasons, not a-typical or remained (like his Joker take)
What I want is a Tron game. A open world sandbox where you can drive almost any vehicle anywhere. A “GTA Clone” if you will. I want to walk the streets, ride light cycles, Soar with light jets, As well as character and vehicle customization.
I would love something like that too, I’m playing Tron Evolution right now and it makes me really wish we had a super fledged out polished Tron game not these generic mobile type games
So what happened in Legacy was, that it was teased that Sam was able to save whatever version of the god code between Kevin and CLU happened onto a disk that he wears like a necklace. There was extra content of what was like a Documentary made by RAM, a friend to Kevin in the OG movie and also appears on the grid. While talking about Sam, he is seen opening his jacket to reveal a "Flynn Lives" shirt. What would make more sense with your theory, is that Sam probably uploaded that god code into a new system where Dillinger's kid, from Legacy played by Cillian Murphy, is running security systems. This very well could be the ENCOM systems or maybe an updated version of the ENCOM operating system.
In regards to Kevin Flynn returning, it's actually been theorized that Sam's necklace at the end of Legacy contains Kevin's consciousness or some kind of back up of it, which would line up perfectly with Sam returning to Encom and seeing Kevin back on Encom's grid in this movie.
IMHO I saw what happened to Kevin Flynn as he absorbed enough energy/data/life essence that he essentially ascended (easiest way to explain) to a digital form/entity.
I really hope Bruce Boxleitner is just trying to keep Tron's return a surprise. I mean, a TRON movie without TRON seems a little pointless considering he's never really taken center stage.
I hope that's what he's doing too, but after the reports of how many times Bruce Boxleitner tried to get sequels and push the franchise forward just to have Disney delay or ignore his ideas, I wouldn't be surprised if he was just done with it.
I think a prequel showing the development of the grid, escalating conflight with clu, Tron and Clu fighting, Clu and Flynn fighting then the death of all the isomorphs / the purge would be dope AF!
I agree but I think it might be better as an animated show just for the sole purpose of de-aging the characters. We get a taste of it in "TRON Betrayal" but I would love more.
It’s funny how Legacy got a fare slating when it first came out, but garnered a cult following just like the original. Like the original it was ahead of its time in some areas. The powers that be lacked the balls to directly continue it, in favour of over saturating the industry with marvel movies.
Yup not saying he’s a bad actor or anything but he’s become a bit of an albatross - almost tainted BladeRunner 2049 for me, but that movie was so brilliant in every other respect it survived as a superb and respectful sequel imo. And Disney writing is appalling lately. But…fingers crossed.
MY THOUGHTS: 1)There is an easy way they can bring Kevin back: when he was digitized by the Shiva Laser in both TRON and Legacy, his molecules were converted into digital code. Once he exited the grid, his molecules were put back together. Anyway, if you delete a program, which is made of lines of code, there are still traces of it in your computer 😉- UNLESS you wipe the hard drive clean. At the end of Legacy, Sam uploaded a TON of the programs and data from Kevin Flynn's private server to his flash drive. There is also a Second Screen feature on the BluRay that ACTUALLY shows what Sam was uploading to his flash drive, too. Plus, if Kevin Flynn's data is still in the hard drive of his private server, then that means that CLU 2.0's is too, and Sam may have also defragged the hard drive to separate the 2 lines of code😉. 2)ALSO in the teaser trailer, that background Jeff Bridges is standing in, is the tank CLU 1.0 was in when he was looking for the file Dillinger and the MCP stole, inside the ENCOM 511 the server from the first film. I think Kevin Flynn and CLU 1.0 have somehow been merged together by Sam, and he uploaded it to the ENCOM server from his flash drive (piggybacking off my previous point). Also there is a set pic that shows the film crew filming Sam Flynn's shipping container apartment on the harbor😉. 3)The Recognizer - actually resembles some of the different recognizer designs in TRON UPRISING. Looks like they tweaked it some and actually reminds me partially of some of Michael Bay's Transformers designs, LOL😂😅 **POSSIBLE SPOILER (the set photos actually show this): Greta Lee and Hassan Minahj are ENCOM employees (Greta said this herself in a recent interview) at an event called PARANOIACON which is to celebrate the release of SPACE PARANOIDS 7. She plays a character named Eve Kim who is a programmer at ENCOM.**
Agree, the Quattro does give off Tron vibes for sure. I'm old too. saw Tron in the theater when I was 10 years old. It was also the very first VHS my family rented when we bought our first VCR.
I’m not sure how I feel about the programs entering our world instead of seeing more of the grid. The best part of the Tron movies is seeing the world of the grid, but it looks like we’ll still get to see some of it in this movie. This idea of an invasion story doesn’t particularly interest me even if it was with the characters from Legacy. I agree that Bruce should be the one returning instead of Jeff
I really hoped they would show lots of more gameplay so to speak back in the Legacy movie, sadly the movie cost was high due to the 3d rendering since Avatar was the new craze! sadly they cast Jared Leto who overplays every single role he is in!
tron is not tron without the grid. i dont get the hype from the community seeing that it is in the real world. its like getting excited about a pirates of the caribbean movie that never goes to the sea.
@@ariesatrio3119 bro just because that was the original idea does not mean its a good idea. people keep using that argument like it means anything. besides, garret hedlund and olivia wilde were both available at the time with kosinski, whose first project was literally legacy. now apparently none of them are on this project and if there's one director i would trust to take such a risky move with the franchise it's kosinski.
@@wonderboytheartist Not Only Olivia Wilde HATED working on Legacy so much she didn’t wanna return to the franchise even when she was "available"; but also Kosinski himself gave his blessing to Joachim Rønning when they met to talk about the Tron franchise. You overvalue both Kosinski and Daft Punk as if they created the franchise on their own, when the beauty of Tron is when creators give their OWN interpretation of what it means to be human in a digital simulation. Even you contradict yourself when saying "just because it was the original idea doesn’t mean it’d be good" just for saying at the end that you trust Kosinski blindly when, surprise, Kosinski himself wanted to explore the idea of programs exploring the real world on Ascension!
I been a fan of both the old and the new films. Seen the first too many times to count, and enough times to recall near every minute of the film in a mental playback if I wanted. And seen the new films about twice each. The old film will be an ageless classic to me. And the new films help bring it all back with some new visuals and stories to tell. Not everyone is going to be pleased with any of the films. But I can and am pleased with each of them. I, as an old-time die-hard fan of the original, and a big enough fan of the new films. I greatly look forward to seeing this new film also.
I had always hoped for any sequel for Tron they would have introduced Jet Bradley from the Tron 2.0 game... Could you imagine a team up with Jet and Sam? That would have been great!!
Definitely a huge Red Flag with them moving away from Flynn’s son saga. That was the perfect setup seems like they are trying to skip that which makes Zero sense and I hope so kind of way they include it otherwise would be a major dropped ball.
A Tron 3 film, without Tron in the film... yeah. What was Bad about the last Tron film was "Tron" was barely even in it. We got a version that was nonspeaking and never saw his face and that was supposed to mean he was an Upgraded version. Just felt lame. I at least hope we get a better de-aged version of Clu but I guess we'll just have to wait and see.
I guess you might just call me a true fan. I watched the original movie at the cinema as well as it’s sequel and i can’t wait for another movie in the series, plus seeing that Kevin Flynn is returning brightens my day
I remember attending Art Center and hearing that our Vizcom teacher was leaving to go work on Tron Legacy… honestly up until that point, I had never really cared to watch the original. But then, as the teaser came out (with the light cycle fight through the mountains that never made it into the movie and then hearing the Daft Punk album come out before the movie’s release, I was SOLD!) I hope they do justice to Legacy and somehow bring back that cast!!
1:05 I can answer your question on that. When Quorra was injured we saw we saw Kevin use her disk which had a copy of her code that he repaired in order to repair her. When Sam jumped back into the real world he was in possession of Kevin’s disk and therefore had a copy of Kevin. When Sam materializes and shuts down The Grid he is wearing a glowing flash drive, the flash drive that would carry Kevin Flynn’s code and therefore a way to rematerialize him.
As a long time Tron fan I'm pretty disappointed that they seem to have abandoned the Sam/Quorra story. I get the feeling this is going to follow the trend of all new disney movies.
I’m not 100% but doesn’t blue and that orange/red make purple? That could be why the dudes background is purple because he’s kind of a combination or somewhere in between. Or maybe Bridges is pullingpulling a Sam Jackson and saying, “I’ll come back only if my background is purple and there’s yellow M&Ms in my dressing room”. Probably. Maybe.
I am actually excited about this. I kinda wish they do bring Bruce, Garrett or even Olivia back. Jeff's role in the movie is an interesting one. But i think they should explore more of the grid like where do the ISOS came from? And were their purpose? Im also interested to see the many worlds/systems they'll be hoping into. I do agree with you when it comes to them relying heavily on nostalgia rather than a good story, I think they should like stop focusing on that and rather try to make a good story for once.
Guessing they retconned Quorra’s involvement since Olivia Wilde hated so much working on Legacy she didn’t want to return to the franchise. And this was the logical step since Jared Leto’s Ares has always been on the original draft for Ascension.
Ughh with Disney now, I am worried. I loved the last Tron it was awesome and the soundtrack was great. I am a musician and not really a fan of electronic music but I do have mad respect for Daft Punk and thought the soundtrack was killer. I loved how it went into the theme at the ending credits. I am like, dam thats a good tune.
Loved Tron and Legacy was one of my all time favorites! Man I hope they don't mess this up! Leto movies are usually big expectation but don't land well!!! 🤞🏽
I’m a huge Tron fan and seeing the shots people took at the Disney event. I’m skeptical, but I want to keep an open mind about Tron: Ares. I am in fact a CLU fan and named my AI after CLU in both Tron and Tron: Legacy. I believe Jeff Bridges is CLU3 in this version of Tron and the reason why I say that is because Kevin Flynn and CLU2 integrated. Quora said that if that would happen because of Flynn’s age . He wouldn’t survive. Neither of them would, but it possible for Flynn to have another digital copy of myself onto the Encom company which is possible.
The loss of sense of instant death with the light cycles annoyed me. In the original it was this terrifying microsecond death, which made sense because it's a machine. They're not _really_ motorbikes. The new one looked soft, the old one has edges you could shave on. I wish we had _more_ Tron but now without daft punk! 😢
Tron 1.0 brought us something most hadn't seen before- 3D. Tron 2.0 did a good job of that too, albeit the visual was still 3D the art was a stunning style. I expected Tron 3.0 would do something visually new perhaps using A.I. in a way that is unexpected like the prior films. This looked sort of like a Marvel or Transformer movie. I wasn't getting Tron vibes from this. Sad-- for me this series came out when I was a kid and it was the first movie I saw without supervision. I targeted and had an excellent run in a 3D career inspired by this movie and other budding 3D tech back in the 80's before I ran with the first(?) 3D desktop program which was on the Amiga Sculpt 3D and Animate 3D then Sculpt Animate 4D before I bought a Video Toaster with Lightwave 3D.
Hey Derezzed, I just examined the image of what is to be expected that it might be a circular disc, it is DEFFINITLY a circular disc, if you look at the image more closely, you can see that one of the disc's edges is more rounder then the straight edge that is a triangle.
It's one of the greatest animated series of all time. It felt like a betrayal back in the day when Disney pushed it to Midnight and cancelled it. The nice thing is some of the Uprising plans post season 1 got leaked a few years back. I might make a video breaking all of it down.
TRON has always been ahead of it's time and brilliant, despite being owned and shelved by Disney. The original left a lot of unanswered questions that maybe will finally be revealed, but I doubt it. If there is a way for Disney to F' UP this franchise like they've done to every other one, THEY WILL DO IT.
dude your gonna hate it no matter what... Star Wars fan ie Hater ... Disney cant do anything , but they did the other 2 that many love . So your logic makes no sense at all,.
No Bruce Boxleitner in Tron Ares would be the equivalent of a Batman titled movie without Batman. Lots of people don't realize that the first Tron movie was easily 10+ years ahead of it's time and is why only early computer nerds appreciated it. There was a segment about Tron on the Donohue talk show and a woman in the audience said she loved the movie because worked with computers and was a user. The audience giggled at her statement because back then "user" meant someone hooked on drugs. Tron was essntially an anti-virus/firewall program and this was 8 years before Norton released their first product. All of the computer related terms pretty much everyone uses today was very foreign to most of the public back then.
I thought legacy was a decent storyline with brilliant visuals and Tron Uprising was such a boss side story. I was devastated when it was canceled. One of the only decent cartoons during that time yet only one season. Glad to hear there's a return to the Tron universe.
I LOVE the TRON movies, I went to see LEGACY about 4 or 5 TIMES when it was in theaters and I LOVE TRON: Uprising, I even bought 2 of the TRON: Legacy LEGO sets and made a couple of my own Lightcycles and 1 Recognizer MOC in hope of finding some custom made TRON Minifigs for them, HELL I even tried making custom minifigs myself once using Decal paper and my Laptop but that failed and I even tried a website in order to create them but for some reason the website I tried to do it on wasn't excepting my Debit card for some reason and I wasn't pleased with that.
That style difference between classic and new TRON reminds me of how the Multiverse brought justified unification of all past Marvel projects. I'm really interested in how this is going to unfold.
Pretty simple to figure out. At the end of Tron Legacy Sam and Quorra made it out with Kevin's disc. A copy of everything he was in and out of the Grid. Easy to bring him back. Sam backed up everything on the mainframe on the small drive he put around his neck at the end of the film.
TRON : LAGACY was a 100% great movie and my fevorite one. the characters like sam, quorra, clu and all others so i wish TRON : ARES will bring the same vibe to it 😊
I think one the things that hurt Tron Legacy was the "uncanny valley" of the 3D face of younger Kevin Flynn. Just wasn't "there" yet... same as the 3D look of younger Princess Leia, younger Luke, and likeness of Grand Moff Tarkin in the more recent Star Wars offerings. I think we have the technology to do it better now, if we really need to... but they have to pull out all the stops to get out of the uncanny valley... or just don't go there at all at re-creating actors. I saw the original Tron in the theater... and even though I understood a lot of the "computer terms" used, I knew a lot of older people at the time would not. Sure, Silicon Valley and other tech hubs knew some of those terms, but not the masses. You had to grow up with (and really use) computers to understand everything. In fact, I keep thinking of making a Tron type film that really shows the tech correctly (i.e. if a "logic probe" would be used... it would be to FIND/DISCOVER where something was... not pound on a door to break into it). In the end, there is so much more that could be portrayed... firewalls, NATs, virus, anti-virus, DoS, DDoS, malware, AI... the list goes on-and-on. I think the future of TRON is bright... but if Disney mucks it up like they did Star Wars... they'd be entering a big error... one which all us users (and the franchise) will suffer the consequences for. There's so many people/fans/writers/artists out there extending the TRON universe... if they'd just work with them instead of against them, maybe we'd all finally win.
It's notable that the soundtrack is by NIN and not Trent Reznor. That really tells what direction the sound is gonna go, as well as Atticus' involvement. SUPER stoked that NIN is doing it.
Tron Legacy was a feature length Daft Punk music video. It was as much a follow up to Interstella 5555 as it was a sequel to Tron. The big news for Tron Ares is the soundtrack will be scored by Nine Inch Nails. And the big question is, how will their take compare to Daft Punk?
Yeah Cillian Murphy is pretty dam big now. He can pick and choose what he wants. I am glad he has really blown up, I think he is a great actor. I first noticed him in Batman Begins, I really liked his take on the Scare Crow. Was pretty cool Christopher Nolan kept using him in other movies. That helped him take on bigger roles. Disney will have to offer big bucks for him but they piss a lot of money away so in comparison to all the other crap the waste money on, paying him a decent salary would be a good investment.
Depending on the era of the grid you're operating in, purple is for systems utilities or for programs from a company that has been retconned out of cannon.
Tron legacy 100% was visually ahead of its time.
This is kind of funny as there was only a total of like 3 minutes of CG in the movie. Loved it as a kid though. The local video store let you get a free Betamax rental with every rental, I always got Tron.
no the majority of humanity are just not ready,
@@arcadealchemist IT's 2024, m'dude. I'm pretty sure we're ready.
We worked very hard on Legacy. Thank you for the compliment (I was the modeling supervisor at Digital Domain). I am very curious to see what the design looks like in Ares.
Let's hope the 3rd film has more Tron in it than Flynn Legacy did.
Idk bout yall but tron:legacy was clean asf and my favorite fr
Yeah same!
I still have the movie poster on my wall, stripped from a cineplex theatre from someone who worked there :)
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overrated and completely underlooked!
Wow. You must really like ugly movies with no soul.
Tron Legacy is one of my fav movies. It was a great balance between story and fan service. I really hope for a good story in Ares.
Uprising was surprisingly awesome.
I agree with you completely. Uprising is my favorite show of all time and Legacy is my favorite movie. I'm ready for the future of this franchise.
@@DerezzedCyclewe need Sam Flynn now!
Lol. The story was literally a beat by beat re-skin of the story from the first movie.
Disney has screwed around way too long with the Tron franchise. I can't blame Boxleitner for distancing himself from them. They did nothing but give him the run-around and ghosting him for years about it. He's being a lot more professional about it then the various producers were to him, that's for sure. Frankly, I'm surprised that Disney hasn't completely destroyed the Tron IP the way they did Star Wars and Indiana Jones. Don't misunderstand me, I LOVED Legacy and the original Tron. And I have to admit that I have high hopes for Ares. But these days I don't trust Disney to do anything except snatch defeat from the jaws of victory.
Oh, btw, great video. Subscribed.
Damn, your Statement is Gospel.
So well said I agree so much and they keep on doing it with everyone’s childhood favorites or franchises they grew up on. it’s so bad they are lazy and drop the ball 90% of the time. They mess up simple things like decent story telling or intriguing dialogue or implying things through emotion and context instead of dead dialogue. It’s so frustrating because technology is better than it ever has been and we should have the best of both worlds. They moved out all of the people who actually have passion for these’s IPs and stories because they speak out against they’re total failures or misjudgments they don’t care and just spit out garbage to fill deadlines. We used to live in a world with good storytelling with good morals too now it’s just garbage it’s so bad. Theres obviously still some very good directors and projects out there but there are so little for Disney. This movie is gonna fail and we’ve waited 15 years for it just for them to fuck it up. Star Wars 2.0 except there just gonna cancel it when it doesn’t do as well as expected
Agreed, I take absolutely everything Disney does now with a grain of salt.
@@Vulpine407 also Bruce Boxleightner is an amazing person as an individual. I got to meet him at a convention, had him sign my gambler TV series box set. So professional and super fan friendly as well. You can tell he loves his fans. Disney should be crucified for how they treat their talent.
Tron Legacy was a huge disappointment. They did the character of Tron dirty and completely neutered Alan Bradley. It was a case of someone writing a sequel that didn't understand the original.
I don't really want these characters interacting with the real world. I'd prefer if things just stayed in the grid.
Agreed!
“Oh cry me a fucking river Barry.”
Respectfully, this is a bad take. This is the most interesting idea in the franchise since the original film. Seeing elements of the Grid, like the light cycles, interacting with the real world is an exciting plot twist.
(You) Didn’t understand the true essence of Tron, then
A Tron in the real world...of course and it will be...adapted for "modern audiences" and "modern sensibilities"...they will be "binary" genre programs...😅
Of course Kevin Flynn is alive, Tron Legacy ended with Sam having his disc backup on a chip on a necklace, and one of the last songs is called Flynn Lives.
Tell me more I know what your talking about but please tell me because I'm a big tron fan and theory guy
@@normanschur8922 There's little more to tell. I would guess that Flynn exists in Ares as some version of a "Force ghost" like Obi-Wan. A digital version of him that his son could occasionally visit and reconnect with.
Flynn survived merging wiht the MCP in the original movie. He's a User, literally the god in the machine.
No idea why Tron isn't bigger than it is...for me it's been right up there with the biggest franchises. I kept hearing that the fan base was too small but I don't know if I believe that
Tron is a cult classic if you were into video games or scifi in the 90's. When I did my work-study at college in the early 2000's, the 1st icebreaker question was literally if anyone liked the movie Tron, and without exception everyone loved it.
Because Tron Legacy was an ugly cash grab with a terrible story.
@@RawPowerComicsI loved legacy lmao and it was not a cash grab cause it earned no money 💀 as it released alongside a ton of heavy hitters that it couldn’t compete with in the box office
@@BigRascal It earned no money because it sucked. They WANTED it to be a nostalgia cash grab, but then people went to see it and let everyone know how bad it was.
@@RawPowerComics if we are talking about facts instead of opinions, the movie had a mixed reception. it wasn't great, however it did not technically "suck", thats purely subjective.
Bring back Bit and Garrett Hudlund Sam Flynn please
I pray Garrett is at least given a cameo but idk :(
@@DerezzedCycleSame but I doubt it. More likely they decided to divorce Ares from Legacy. Studios these daze have no clue what they're doing imo.
Im old enough to have seen tron in the cinema, and i loved legacy as an older adult. Looking forward to it
I have so little faith in Disney treating their legacy franchises with any amount of respect, I can't even describe how low my expectations for this movie are.
Agreed, jared leto being involved is scary too, he has been movie kryptonite in recent years…
Did you hate Andor? I think it is arguably one of the 5 best TV shows in the history of planet Earth. If you thought it was shit then yeah, you wouldn't think Disney was capable of anything decent in recent years. Agree to disagree.
Very worried.
@@ichigen511andor is the exception. They seem to be on a mission to ruin any thing a hetero male would like
Well said
It’s got Jarod Leto. Based on his track record, I don’t hold high hopes.
He has had some absolute clangers recently…hopefully he will come good
@@velocitymg I hope so too but taking on a franchise that historically has failed at the box office and only really gathered speed years later is probably not a good gamble.
I'm usually not superstitious, but I also see Jared leto's presence as a bad omen for that movie ! 😂
@@flowrebaz6189 that's a fair point, but I think the reason I didn't immediately have a bad feeling is because I'm guessing his character in the movie is going to be a relatively normal, and most of his recent movies that weren't received well had characters that all were, for various reasons, not a-typical or remained (like his Joker take)
@@martinprovo2389 we can all hope, but mine are not that high right now.
What I want is a Tron game.
A open world sandbox where you can drive almost any vehicle anywhere.
A “GTA Clone” if you will.
I want to walk the streets, ride light cycles, Soar with light jets,
As well as character and vehicle customization.
I would love something like that too, I’m playing Tron Evolution right now and it makes me really wish we had a super fledged out polished Tron game not these generic mobile type games
So what happened in Legacy was, that it was teased that Sam was able to save whatever version of the god code between Kevin and CLU happened onto a disk that he wears like a necklace. There was extra content of what was like a Documentary made by RAM, a friend to Kevin in the OG movie and also appears on the grid. While talking about Sam, he is seen opening his jacket to reveal a "Flynn Lives" shirt. What would make more sense with your theory, is that Sam probably uploaded that god code into a new system where Dillinger's kid, from Legacy played by Cillian Murphy, is running security systems. This very well could be the ENCOM systems or maybe an updated version of the ENCOM operating system.
In regards to Kevin Flynn returning, it's actually been theorized that Sam's necklace at the end of Legacy contains Kevin's consciousness or some kind of back up of it, which would line up perfectly with Sam returning to Encom and seeing Kevin back on Encom's grid in this movie.
totally agree, Was just saying that to my fiends
IMHO I saw what happened to Kevin Flynn as he absorbed enough energy/data/life essence that he essentially ascended (easiest way to explain) to a digital form/entity.
That's a fantastic way to describe it. I hope they use this explanation.
Well we don't know if Kevin Flynn survived reintegration
@@gouryg4774 Did you not know about the FLYNN LIVES campaign? its hidden in the bluray extras. Its teased multiple times that flynn will be back.
I really hope Bruce Boxleitner is just trying to keep Tron's return a surprise.
I mean, a TRON movie without TRON seems a little pointless considering he's never really taken center stage.
I hope it's an Andrew Garfield situation but I'm worried.
@@DerezzedCycle Dafne Keen also flat out denied that she would be in Deadpool and Wolverine...
Very doubtful he will be in it
much as i loved legacy that was my only real complaint about it, title was literally TRON but the character took a backseat
I hope that's what he's doing too, but after the reports of how many times Bruce Boxleitner tried to get sequels and push the franchise forward just to have Disney delay or ignore his ideas, I wouldn't be surprised if he was just done with it.
I think a prequel showing the development of the grid, escalating conflight with clu, Tron and Clu fighting, Clu and Flynn fighting then the death of all the isomorphs / the purge would be dope AF!
I'd love for that to happen
I agree but I think it might be better as an animated show just for the sole purpose of de-aging the characters. We get a taste of it in "TRON Betrayal" but I would love more.
I'm just happy they decided to continue with this franchise...still too early to judge. But thanks for the update.😊😊😊
Thank you for watching I appreciate it. I have my concerns but I'm super excited to see what the future of this franchise could be. :)
I'm perfectly fine with the real world invasion. I'm less ok there being so few apparent connections to Legacy (no Hedlund, Wilde or Boxleitner).
Yeah 100%
@@DerezzedCycle so you know the story you have the screen play?
For those who don't know, the animated images are from the short lived series Tron Uprising which takes place between the original movie and Uprising
It’s funny how Legacy got a fare slating when it first came out, but garnered a cult following just like the original. Like the original it was ahead of its time in some areas. The powers that be lacked the balls to directly continue it, in favour of over saturating the industry with marvel movies.
Honestly, the thing that scares me the most about the success of this movie is that Jared Leto is in it...
Yup not saying he’s a bad actor or anything but he’s become a bit of an albatross - almost tainted BladeRunner 2049 for me, but that movie was so brilliant in every other respect it survived as a superb and respectful sequel imo. And Disney writing is appalling lately. But…fingers crossed.
Dude, Flynn is Dr Manhattan in the MCP of Tron.
"If it's purple, someone is going to die."
MY THOUGHTS:
1)There is an easy way they can bring Kevin back: when he was digitized by the Shiva Laser in both TRON and Legacy, his molecules were converted into digital code. Once he exited the grid, his molecules were put back together. Anyway, if you delete a program, which is made of lines of code, there are still traces of it in your computer 😉- UNLESS you wipe the hard drive clean. At the end of Legacy, Sam uploaded a TON of the programs and data from Kevin Flynn's private server to his flash drive. There is also a Second Screen feature on the BluRay that ACTUALLY shows what Sam was uploading to his flash drive, too. Plus, if Kevin Flynn's data is still in the hard drive of his private server, then that means that CLU 2.0's is too, and Sam may have also defragged the hard drive to separate the 2 lines of code😉.
2)ALSO in the teaser trailer, that background Jeff Bridges is standing in, is the tank CLU 1.0 was in when he was looking for the file Dillinger and the MCP stole, inside the ENCOM 511 the server from the first film. I think Kevin Flynn and CLU 1.0 have somehow been merged together by Sam, and he uploaded it to the ENCOM server from his flash drive (piggybacking off my previous point). Also there is a set pic that shows the film crew filming Sam Flynn's shipping container apartment on the harbor😉.
3)The Recognizer - actually resembles some of the different recognizer designs in TRON UPRISING. Looks like they tweaked it some and actually reminds me partially of some of Michael Bay's Transformers designs, LOL😂😅
**POSSIBLE SPOILER (the set photos actually show this): Greta Lee and Hassan Minahj are ENCOM employees (Greta said this herself in a recent interview) at an event called PARANOIACON which is to celebrate the release of SPACE PARANOIDS 7. She plays a character named Eve Kim who is a programmer at ENCOM.**
Dude that Audi Quattro looks so awesome. looks like an 1986. I wanted one back then. (I'm old, I saw the OG TRON in theaters)
Agree, the Quattro does give off Tron vibes for sure. I'm old too. saw Tron in the theater when I was 10 years old. It was also the very first VHS my family rented when we bought our first VCR.
I’m not sure how I feel about the programs entering our world instead of seeing more of the grid. The best part of the Tron movies is seeing the world of the grid, but it looks like we’ll still get to see some of it in this movie. This idea of an invasion story doesn’t particularly interest me even if it was with the characters from Legacy. I agree that Bruce should be the one returning instead of Jeff
I really hoped they would show lots of more gameplay so to speak back in the Legacy movie, sadly the movie cost was high due to the 3d rendering since Avatar was the new craze! sadly they cast Jared Leto who overplays every single role he is in!
tron is not tron without the grid. i dont get the hype from the community seeing that it is in the real world. its like getting excited about a pirates of the caribbean movie that never goes to the sea.
The original plan for TRON: ASCENSION was that the grid comes to the real world, I don’t understand why people dislike this at all
@@ariesatrio3119 bro just because that was the original idea does not mean its a good idea. people keep using that argument like it means anything. besides, garret hedlund and olivia wilde were both available at the time with kosinski, whose first project was literally legacy. now apparently none of them are on this project and if there's one director i would trust to take such a risky move with the franchise it's kosinski.
@@wonderboytheartist Not Only Olivia Wilde HATED working on Legacy so much she didn’t wanna return to the franchise even when she was "available"; but also Kosinski himself gave his blessing to Joachim Rønning when they met to talk about the Tron franchise.
You overvalue both Kosinski and Daft Punk as if they created the franchise on their own, when the beauty of Tron is when creators give their OWN interpretation of what it means to be human in a digital simulation.
Even you contradict yourself when saying "just because it was the original idea doesn’t mean it’d be good" just for saying at the end that you trust Kosinski blindly when, surprise, Kosinski himself wanted to explore the idea of programs exploring the real world on Ascension!
I'm excited to see this, because if it does well, maybe they'll bring back Tron: Uprising.
OG Tron…..boom, can’t beat it!!!!!
That Tron will always last because it has unmistakable style.
Without Daft Punk I'm really on the fence about Ares. Especially with Leto on board.
I been a fan of both the old and the new films. Seen the first too many times to count, and enough times to recall near every minute of the film in a mental playback if I wanted. And seen the new films about twice each.
The old film will be an ageless classic to me. And the new films help bring it all back with some new visuals and stories to tell.
Not everyone is going to be pleased with any of the films. But I can and am pleased with each of them.
I, as an old-time die-hard fan of the original, and a big enough fan of the new films. I greatly look forward to seeing this new film also.
I had always hoped for any sequel for Tron they would have introduced Jet Bradley from the Tron 2.0 game... Could you imagine a team up with Jet and Sam? That would have been great!!
Oh lord. Disney “Girl Boss” “Best Programmer In The World” continues.
Disney hasn’t learned their lesson.
Kevin Flynn's purple costume along with Ares' red costume would make sense for the trending T-Mobile Vs Verizon meme. 🤣
Definitely a huge Red Flag with them moving away from Flynn’s son saga. That was the perfect setup seems like they are trying to skip that which makes Zero sense and I hope so kind of way they include it otherwise would be a major dropped ball.
Yeah 100%
So true! Men, you should be the TRON director advisor :)
A Tron 3 film, without Tron in the film... yeah. What was Bad about the last Tron film was "Tron" was barely even in it. We got a version that was nonspeaking and never saw his face and that was supposed to mean he was an Upgraded version. Just felt lame. I at least hope we get a better de-aged version of Clu but I guess we'll just have to wait and see.
i havent thought, that they´ll do it. but we get this film finally.
Without Bruce Boxleitner there is no TRON, period.
I guess you might just call me a true fan. I watched the original movie at the cinema as well as it’s sequel and i can’t wait for another movie in the series, plus seeing that Kevin Flynn is returning brightens my day
tron without tron is like star wars without star.
I remember attending Art Center and hearing that our Vizcom teacher was leaving to go work on Tron Legacy… honestly up until that point, I had never really cared to watch the original. But then, as the teaser came out (with the light cycle fight through the mountains that never made it into the movie and then hearing the Daft Punk album come out before the movie’s release, I was SOLD!) I hope they do justice to Legacy and somehow bring back that cast!!
Programs going to the real world kinda breaks the magic for me. Still excited.
Both the original Tron and Tron:Legacy were fantastic for what they were.
1:05 I can answer your question on that. When Quorra was injured we saw we saw Kevin use her disk which had a copy of her code that he repaired in order to repair her. When Sam jumped back into the real world he was in possession of Kevin’s disk and therefore had a copy of Kevin. When Sam materializes and shuts down The Grid he is wearing a glowing flash drive, the flash drive that would carry Kevin Flynn’s code and therefore a way to rematerialize him.
Disney please, please, PLEASE! Do not ruin this film. You did amazing with the other 2, please don't drop the ball on this one.
I'm also a Legacy nerd... I've watched the movie over and over so many times - all I want is more!
As a long time Tron fan I'm pretty disappointed that they seem to have abandoned the Sam/Quorra story. I get the feeling this is going to follow the trend of all new disney movies.
I’m not 100% but doesn’t blue and that orange/red make purple? That could be why the dudes background is purple because he’s kind of a combination or somewhere in between. Or maybe Bridges is pullingpulling a Sam Jackson and saying, “I’ll come back only if my background is purple and there’s yellow M&Ms in my dressing room”. Probably. Maybe.
For a movie named for the title character Tron needs to be the focus. Tron battleling noobs would be so cool!
Tron legacy would look stunning in 4k and that's what i have been waiting for i think it's a very good film
RIP Daft Punk
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For real. The Legacy soundtrack was super cool.
I am actually excited about this. I kinda wish they do bring Bruce, Garrett or even Olivia back. Jeff's role in the movie is an interesting one. But i think they should explore more of the grid like where do the ISOS came from? And were their purpose? Im also interested to see the many worlds/systems they'll be hoping into. I do agree with you when it comes to them relying heavily on nostalgia rather than a good story, I think they should like stop focusing on that and rather try to make a good story for once.
They're going to mess up this Trilogy. What happened to Flynn's Son and the program from Tron Legacy?!
Guessing they retconned Quorra’s involvement since Olivia Wilde hated so much working on Legacy she didn’t want to return to the franchise. And this was the logical step since Jared Leto’s Ares has always been on the original draft for Ascension.
I also think there are Multiple Flynns in Each system. I think when i user enters in a copy is created and stored and Flynn has been in may systems
There is no way making a Tron movie without Jeff Bridges character.
Ughh with Disney now, I am worried. I loved the last Tron it was awesome and the soundtrack was great. I am a musician and not really a fan of electronic music but I do have mad respect for Daft Punk and thought the soundtrack was killer. I loved how it went into the theme at the ending credits. I am like, dam thats a good tune.
As a 82 baby I love both movies.
1:08 You don't know the definition of imploded. He exploded.
Yeah thanks for correcting me
@@DerezzedCycle we would've accepted kersploded or blowns-up too.
Bridges rocking the Dianese logo.!
Loved Tron and Legacy was one of my all time favorites! Man I hope they don't mess this up! Leto movies are usually big expectation but don't land well!!! 🤞🏽
I’m a huge Tron fan and seeing the shots people took at the Disney event. I’m skeptical, but I want to keep an open mind about Tron: Ares. I am in fact a CLU fan and named my AI after CLU in both Tron and Tron: Legacy. I believe Jeff Bridges is CLU3 in this version of Tron and the reason why I say that is because Kevin Flynn and CLU2 integrated. Quora said that if that would happen because of Flynn’s age . He wouldn’t survive. Neither of them would, but it possible for Flynn to have another digital copy of myself onto the Encom company which is possible.
You disappoint me Cillian! How could you turn Tron down? It's an awesome franchise.
The loss of sense of instant death with the light cycles annoyed me.
In the original it was this terrifying microsecond death, which made sense because it's a machine.
They're not _really_ motorbikes.
The new one looked soft, the old one has edges you could shave on.
I wish we had _more_ Tron but now without daft punk! 😢
I ❤ TRON
Tron 1.0 brought us something most hadn't seen before- 3D. Tron 2.0 did a good job of that too, albeit the visual was still 3D the art was a stunning style. I expected Tron 3.0 would do something visually new perhaps using A.I. in a way that is unexpected like the prior films. This looked sort of like a Marvel or Transformer movie. I wasn't getting Tron vibes from this. Sad-- for me this series came out when I was a kid and it was the first movie I saw without supervision. I targeted and had an excellent run in a 3D career inspired by this movie and other budding 3D tech back in the 80's before I ran with the first(?) 3D desktop program which was on the Amiga Sculpt 3D and Animate 3D then Sculpt Animate 4D before I bought a Video Toaster with Lightwave 3D.
This film looks awesome!
Tron legacy is in my top 5 fav movies
Yeah same!
Hey Derezzed, I just examined the image of what is to be expected that it might be a circular disc, it is DEFFINITLY a circular disc, if you look at the image more closely, you can see that one of the disc's edges is more rounder then the straight edge that is a triangle.
I actually truly enjoyed Olivia Wild in Legacy. She played her character well. Damn, that movie was good. Why does nobody agree with me? Lol!
Watch TRON: Uprising if you want to see an amazingly animated take on the TRON universe. The show is basically animated graphic design.
That this series was cancelled was just tragic.
It's one of the greatest animated series of all time. It felt like a betrayal back in the day when Disney pushed it to Midnight and cancelled it. The nice thing is some of the Uprising plans post season 1 got leaked a few years back. I might make a video breaking all of it down.
TRON has always been ahead of it's time and brilliant, despite being owned and shelved by Disney.
The original left a lot of unanswered questions that maybe will finally be revealed, but I doubt it.
If there is a way for Disney to F' UP this franchise like they've done to every other one, THEY WILL DO IT.
dude your gonna hate it no matter what... Star Wars fan ie Hater ... Disney cant do anything , but they did the other 2 that many love . So your logic makes no sense at all,.
That is a nice rally spec audi
Love orig and Legacy, fingers crossed if this is at least half as good as those, I’ll take it.
Purple was the color of hacker programs in the game Tron2.0!!!! Makes sense yay
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I agree, NIN doing the soundtrack got me hyped.
I'm thinking it's not Flynn but a new character. A fusion of Flynn and CLU
I loved the original as a boy and Tron Legacy was good and I’m interested to see the new one.
No Bruce Boxleitner in Tron Ares would be the equivalent of a Batman titled movie without Batman.
Lots of people don't realize that the first Tron movie was easily 10+ years ahead of it's time and is why only early computer nerds appreciated it. There was a segment about Tron on the Donohue talk show and a woman in the audience said she loved the movie because worked with computers and was a user. The audience giggled at her statement because back then "user" meant someone hooked on drugs. Tron was essntially an anti-virus/firewall program and this was 8 years before Norton released their first product. All of the computer related terms pretty much everyone uses today was very foreign to most of the public back then.
Torn uprising was a really good back story I hope they use a similar story line with how ai has come to be.
And here I am wanting the 4k Tron and legacy to be released.
Please get it right Disney,....it's called TRON, TRON is the hero.
I thought legacy was a decent storyline with brilliant visuals and Tron Uprising was such a boss side story. I was devastated when it was canceled. One of the only decent cartoons during that time yet only one season. Glad to hear there's a return to the Tron universe.
I grew up with Tron: Legacy my entire life and it even influenced the kind of music I listen to.
I LOVE the TRON movies, I went to see LEGACY about 4 or 5 TIMES when it was in theaters and I LOVE TRON: Uprising, I even bought 2 of the TRON: Legacy LEGO sets and made a couple of my own Lightcycles and 1 Recognizer MOC in hope of finding some custom made TRON Minifigs for them, HELL I even tried making custom minifigs myself once using Decal paper and my Laptop but that failed and I even tried a website in order to create them but for some reason the website I tried to do it on wasn't excepting my Debit card for some reason and I wasn't pleased with that.
Tron 3 Yay! I like the pick for musician. not sure as it is early on the rest.
That style difference between classic and new TRON reminds me of how the Multiverse brought justified unification of all past Marvel projects.
I'm really interested in how this is going to unfold.
Pretty simple to figure out. At the end of Tron Legacy Sam and Quorra made it out with Kevin's disc. A copy of everything he was in and out of the Grid. Easy to bring him back. Sam backed up everything on the mainframe on the small drive he put around his neck at the end of the film.
TRON : LAGACY was a 100% great movie and my fevorite one. the characters like sam, quorra, clu and all others so i wish TRON : ARES will bring the same vibe to it 😊
LOL Dainese logo, they do have Tron Bikes.
Trent Reznor is a great artist and composer but Daft Punk was a perfect pick for the music in Tron.
Bro if the bikes are real imma loose my shit
I think one the things that hurt Tron Legacy was the "uncanny valley" of the 3D face of younger Kevin Flynn. Just wasn't "there" yet... same as the 3D look of younger Princess Leia, younger Luke, and likeness of Grand Moff Tarkin in the more recent Star Wars offerings. I think we have the technology to do it better now, if we really need to... but they have to pull out all the stops to get out of the uncanny valley... or just don't go there at all at re-creating actors. I saw the original Tron in the theater... and even though I understood a lot of the "computer terms" used, I knew a lot of older people at the time would not. Sure, Silicon Valley and other tech hubs knew some of those terms, but not the masses. You had to grow up with (and really use) computers to understand everything. In fact, I keep thinking of making a Tron type film that really shows the tech correctly (i.e. if a "logic probe" would be used... it would be to FIND/DISCOVER where something was... not pound on a door to break into it). In the end, there is so much more that could be portrayed... firewalls, NATs, virus, anti-virus, DoS, DDoS, malware, AI... the list goes on-and-on. I think the future of TRON is bright... but if Disney mucks it up like they did Star Wars... they'd be entering a big error... one which all us users (and the franchise) will suffer the consequences for. There's so many people/fans/writers/artists out there extending the TRON universe... if they'd just work with them instead of against them, maybe we'd all finally win.
It's notable that the soundtrack is by NIN and not Trent Reznor. That really tells what direction the sound is gonna go, as well as Atticus' involvement. SUPER stoked that NIN is doing it.
Tron Legacy was a feature length Daft Punk music video. It was as much a follow up to Interstella 5555 as it was a sequel to Tron. The big news for Tron Ares is the soundtrack will be scored by Nine Inch Nails. And the big question is, how will their take compare to Daft Punk?
Yeah Cillian Murphy is pretty dam big now. He can pick and choose what he wants. I am glad he has really blown up, I think he is a great actor. I first noticed him in Batman Begins, I really liked his take on the Scare Crow. Was pretty cool Christopher Nolan kept using him in other movies. That helped him take on bigger roles. Disney will have to offer big bucks for him but they piss a lot of money away so in comparison to all the other crap the waste money on, paying him a decent salary would be a good investment.
Why is it purple? What does red plus blue create?
The purple could be a new faction of program?
its a methaphorical and litteral combination of Kevin Flynn and Clu.
Depending on the era of the grid you're operating in, purple is for systems utilities or for programs from a company that has been retconned out of cannon.
I think the name means a lot Ares is The God of War, he wants to start an UPRISING, and repair a tarnished LEGACY
Noo dont want it overlapping into the real world keep it in the Grid.... bring back Tron Uprising need another season