Running Aground in the Mississippi with Record Low Water Levels
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- Опубліковано 15 вер 2024
- South of Greenville the Mississippi River there is more sand than river.
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"Trickin Pickin" performed by Doug Waterman
Next time on Matt's Offroad Recovery... Rescuing a junker from a river!
It would be heavy d
I could see both heavy D and Matt coming together for that rescue
@@michaelbissen1946 Agreed
I bet Matt and the MORR crew would love Seeker.
He'll get em out
Thank you Doug for taking us on this fantastic journey!
This is absolutely awesome. I was born in Pensacola and fished Perdido bay many times growing up. I'm glad the trip has been such a good learning experience.
Glad you enjoyed it
Many thanks Doug 10 years of building 1200 miles in of the Adventure of a life time.
We are enjoying every minute of it.
All the fun your having is a Real Lifes Lesson. So fun seeing the serious side of Low water, Listing any amount I'd of been hanging over the rail, minus breakfast, yes, stay safe crew, have a laff or three and enjoy the continued journey!!!
Naa it's a smoother ride than what my Toyota gives us.
This reminds me when i sailed down on the Danube river in Germany in 2018. It was record low water too, i was alone with my 27 foot twin keel sailboat. No channel markings,the Danube flowed straight and wide in front of me, there was only 4 inches of water under the keel.I didn't know where I should go so as not to run aground. Those were hot hours! With the engine running in reverse, I reduced the speed so that if I did run onto the reef, it would not be too deep and I would be able to get off it.Fortunately, I never touched the bottom.
Awesome. Thanks for sharing the story.
Did you get to the Black sea?
@@sanches2 No, i bought the boat in Holland and took it home to Hungary, to lake Balaton on waterways. It was 2600km, 52 days and 226 locks. I wrote a book about it. On my channel you find some video footage!
@@bazsimoci68 i'll certainly check it out! 2600km is a serious distance on river. All the best, Ivan
I can’t believe that was your first time eating a hot pocket, I lived on them in 2000. I was just out of HS, living on my own, and it’s when I discovered just how much I under appreciated my moms cooking. LoL
I just looked it up, and hot pockets were introduced to the market in 1983, I thought I could remember them coming out in the late 90’s, but evidently u weren’t the only one late to the party. LoL
I enjoy watching the videos Doug, safe travels.
Doug, it's great watching you become a captain. Experience is something earned by blood, sweat and tears.
Become a Skipper. Captains take test, and I am done with taking test. : )
Tip for 1:49, if you throw the bucket towards the bow facing backwards it fills up before it starts dragging behind the boat and is much easier to lift (and there is a much lower chance of loosing the bucket). I've almost been pulled overboard by trying to fill a large bucket while underway.
You go an tell the Master Sargent that. I still have a bucket.
Great crew and great boat keep on truckin
Wow crazy... You guys make the best of every situation... It's a beautiful thing....
As they say in Narrow Boating ( UK inland waterways and canals ) its bad when the bottom is too close to the top!
I work with Narrow Boats. We always say, with enough lubrication anything is possible. Not really sure how that applies here.
@@Jack-tx2ve lol well that depends on the lubrication wd40 or beer
21:05 I loved seeing Seeker from the tinder in this clip. It's a great looking vessel. Keep up the good work!
Doug your having fun playing with your boat, and friends, how wonderful is that my friend.
i thought buildind part was good but this adventure is on another level, these videos end way too quick! thanks again :D
Now you need to get a 300Hp on the little red boat. Wink Wink. Love the journey. Hope you have smooth sailing ahead.
Captain Doug, you're developing that Popeye squint.
I live near Fort Defiance at Cairo, Illinois. There is a bridge that crosses the Mississippi and I looked down river and that sand comes WWWWAAAAYYYY out almost near the middle. At one point dredging operations were ongoing to try to maintain the channel. Great video!
I watch these videos sometimes before work the stay motived, positive and capture your dreams.
I'M all ways excited when I find out, a long SV Seeker video dropped ! although I miss the project's! ahahahahaha Keep Living Free seeker!
Doug if you make a temporary 5 dot sight with a sharpie on the window. Horizontal lined up with the rivers horizon. Like sights in a scope. This will help tremendously with any big boat river navigations.👍👍Not so on open ocean.
I got weld spatter that does the same job. : )
Are you guys going to take the Mississippi all the way to the end or cut through Lake Borgne? (is that even possible with your mast height?) It's ~242 miles to the Gulf via the Mississippi. You'd save about 40 miles cutting across Lake Borgne.
Tow boat us is probably the best investment I've made in all my years of boating. They pulled my ass out of the fire a few times. Worth every cent.
Good job you're not on a time crunch. Still, you all look like you're having fun. 👍👍
One thing about it you're going down the river but you're not getting down it easy what an experience y'all are having y'all can write home and tell your grandkids about this I see you still got the Master Sergeant with you cool he's earned his right to experience everything he can in life and do it with Grace if I was him I'd hang with you for a while unless he's got other commitments y'all will experience things that you never even thought you would koodles man nice job Doug it seems like whoever comes on your boat is part of your family which is like way cool love watching y'all stay safe and enjoy
Navy typically operates with "red" and "yellow" soundings. One requires immeadiate review of options (where is better water, slow, move toward better option) the other requires immeadiate evasive action ( all back on engines to stop forward progress). Settings are updated with minimum expected sounding for current conditions, yellow is 90% minimum, red is 80% minimum. Reports of all minimum expected, yellow or red must be made immeadiately to the captain. This is true even in open ocean, because it isnt just about running aground. If soundings are diff. Than expected, it also means you might not be where you think you are.
Man that looks like so much fun.
It’s fun to watch people keep their cool in stressful situations.
It apparently just makes for bad reality TV.
enjoying yet another vid ! just a footnote, the last couple have had the audio affected by wind noise, made it a bit difficult to hear all the awesome banter :) happy motor sailing
Yeah, a lot more wind on the water. I've ordered an upgrade to my mic.
great update and have a great sail down the river see you folks on the next video
Thanks 👍
You should invest in a good set of binoculars and keep an eye on all of those buoys!
If you are so far away you can't tell the shape or color it might be a clue ha ha
I had a guy show me how to use the sail to get unstuck on KY lake. It heeled the boat over and we got clear.
well welcome to the greater gulf coast area Pensacola/Orange beach .Perdido in spanish loosely translates to lost Galeon . You can find the galeon in 70 feet of water in the northern part of the bay.
I think it's time to have a scouting boat. You should run the Whaly with depth finders, then establish a rout on it's depth finder, and use that to travel with the "Mothership".
We do that when out of the channel looking for a place to stop, but it's not worth the fuel, or risk for the main channel.
@@SVSeeker I mean you are the Captain, so you know best. But, I would also suggest a Kinetic recovery rope, specifically like the one they use at Matt's off-road recovery. I think with some added weight on the Whaly you would move the boat no problem. Just strap the rope on a solid part of the Whaly and you should be able to put some momentum on the pull. I would probably take the longest Kinetic rope you can find and add a long static rope to it so that the Whaly has some runway to pick up speed.
First time have seen you worried about what's happening but all good, in the end, thanks for sharing
My pleasure
Hey Captain, you DO know there were spoke handles on a ship's wheel for a reason, right? less Arm Day... LOL
Ok my wife and I went down the the Mississippi in a 37 ft TAYANNA 6FT KEEL IN 1987 ..NOT A PLEASURE trip but a unforgetable experence. Pulled out of the Ohio on to the Miss. in flood with trees bigger than my boat and ducked into Hickman ky till food settled down then continued down to Tennesse river ,Up to the lakes for visit with friends. then back to the Miss. to New Orleans.By this time the Miss was at 10 ft on the guage and tows were going aground. Just north of Memphis I was half asleep and did realize the b tow in front of me was in reverse I paniced and threw my boat into reverse without cuting the throttle. That night my wife informed me we were sinking. I had broken a motor mount .sheared a pin on the shaft and damaged the packking on the through hull. I did a emergency repair and limped into mud island Memphis. And that only .0001% of the next 18 years!
I know going aground sucks from doing it but I wanted to say I loved seeing her at a 'proper' angle. Really looking forward to the sailing adventures you will soon be experiencing. There is nothing quite like getting a larger boat up to hull speed and after that you will only run that beast below for convenience and power. I know you got some training and I hope you ship some experienced offshore sailors when you get to the wilder parts of the planet. I wish you god speed and followed most of the build. Your anchor will hold better when you get a proper rode set up. It is your last chance to stay off a lee shore so don't ignore 6000 years of refinement and lose you ship. I watch because you are a fearless rebel type that I admire but don't fuck with the ocern casually. You are slow so you will eventully end up in a Typhoon/Hurricane/Funnel what ever. Yea it will make great YT but you are responsible for those souls on board.
Great video! Even though, I'd have loved to see some footage of that towing operation. Cheers!
Great crew. Will have to get a bilge rat. Many yrs. Ago was going too use that as a username, for a fishing website as I was one occasionally in the yacht business. They didn't like it assigned another. Anyway safe journeys.
Maybe if you had a parachute type water anchor that you could take out into the deeper water with the tinder .
Drop it and retrieve it as many times as it takes.
Glad to see you making your dream come true .
Yeah that would help. You don't need the tender either, just drop it over. It's on the long list of things to build.
This was my favorit sv seeker video ever haha
It will help following them. The channel line on rose point is off in several places.if you follow that track on rose point you will find alot of shallow spots. Trust me on that
Don’t forget kedging with an anchor. Take your anchor out to a proper scope with your dingy, in the direction of deeper water, then use the windlass to “kedge” off the obstruction. That will pull better than your dingy engine.
Not likely. Without the chain it's purchase into course sand would be minimal. As long as we are making headway then it's a lot of risk with negligible reward. And then you have to recover it.
This is common with sailboats. Why there is a name for it.
@@jim4109 It is common. But would you put your crew at risk for it when you were making progress without it?
Not a barge. It's a towboat pushing barges.
Y'all busted that prop about 500 yards from where I pull up our crewboat. I pass by, "What are they doing over there? No water and old pilings" I check on the way back up. Still there. I check on the way down; gone.
Now I know what was wrong. 363LMR
Vidalia/Natchez.
Fun vid. Gonna have to teach y'all how to use a capstan winch when I get back.
Status…Dangerous!!! 🤣🤣🤣 that’s Awesome!
I wish I could be with you on this adventure!
Water should be rising soon. Rooting for you from Tahlequah! 👍🇺🇸
I hope it does. Those poor push boats are having a hard time of it. As for me, I'm in Perdido Bay and just want some sun and warmer weather. : )
@@SVSeeker Sun you'll get. Warmer not so much😂
@@michaelhowell2541 Just 60. That's all I'm asking for. : )
@@SVSeeker Might manage that!👍😂
I hit 6" of water at 45mph dead center of a marked "channel" once. That was fun.
Stopped by to the Cove this morning did get a good pix...
Ping me next time. Ive been editing video all day and Rocky and I are ready for pizza.
I’m sure you probably are, but be sure to check the engine intake filters after being stuck in all that mud. Enjoying the mayhem!
We have a closed loop.
@@SVSeeker ah yes. Forgot. Nice
When this happens, would it be possible to guide a fat hose down to the snag and blow it out with high pressure water?
We are sitting in 4 knts of current, so it would have to be one hell of a pump to outpace that amount of flow.
SV Seeker i'm glad that u'all got unstuck.. lv the views..
Hank Williams said something about the Mississippi going dry. He might be a prophet.
A little advice . On rose point run track lines on vessels in area.perticular tow vessels.
We watch their tracks, but in the next video we are following a push boat when he runs aground. : )
When towing with a little boat tie off to your trailer tie downs. They go through the transom, the strongest part of the boat.
The Whaly is plenty tough on the rails. We lift her from those even when loaded.
@@SVSeeker Talking about the guy with the 300hp bass boat. 😎
@@finscreenname Yes. I think almost anything would be better than that tiny cleat.
Ahoy there Matthew, all the best Matt, reminds me of Huckleberry Finn, very interesting River. Really exciting to see it all coming to fruition Doug, she's a very nice Vessel matey. Do you have a sea anchor onboard? Another option in a maybe. All the best regards from here on the West Coast side of Australia 🌏🖖🙏🤟🇦🇺 Batavia Coast
No sea anchor. Might make one someday but down the road. It would have been interesting to try out that day.
Considering you were hung up on a sandbar for quite some time you still managed to get fifty miles in kudus to yous. Now from center ring from Seeker circus hahahaha that's hilarious that Matthew cracks me up, now I know why you got him a long, he's not just a regular cook. He's got natural skills to entertain the crew to help keep your spirits up. LOLI think I'm gonna miss him as being part of your crew. I'm sure you' all will.
We still got our 100 mile day. Just not that one. : )
One hell of a stability test
@SVSeeker You responded to a post I made months ago. Time to refresh that comment. I mentioned that it would be a good idea to add cameras to the mast top FWD/AFT facing, I.E. car backup cameras for example. Ether wired or wifi based. The idea is that you can get a TOP down view of what is ahead and behind of you. And you would have a better idea of what is ahead of you. NIGHT VISION support as well. Those cameras are very weather proof. Keep in mind, rocks and coral as well, not to mention further line of sight thanks to height of view.
Those cameras even integrate with the navigation system and they only cost $24,000 dollars. I'll get 2!
Have you checked your sea strainers? They may be full of mississippi
@@SVSeeker $25k not even hardly, look up wifi backup camera 100 dollars average. There are many types even tilt verions.
@@berinslaptop We have a closed-loop cooling system.
@@berinslaptop That's more my price range, but there is no useable night vision.
17:04
wonder if tying off to the outboard would be better, it's where all the thrust is coming from
avoids transferring it through the transom and all that...
The Whaly is designed as north sea rescue boat and for the 50hp. She is tougher that most any other 15 foot boat.
@@SVSeeker Nah, the fishing boat that you got the tug off of. If they ain't got anything to lash off to that's worth a shit, might be worthwhile tying off to the lower unit if you can keep the line outta the prop.
Your river is in drought, yet down here in Australia our Murray is in flood. Sorry guys I think we have some of your water.
The prop wash from that 300hp boat is mostly moved you.
You could try the old fashioned way to get off a reef. Put the anchor in the wally and then take it to where you want to go, drop it over, then use the winch to pull you off
On a reef you have, reef rock. In the Mississippi you have flowing course sand. I think you'd only manage to plow a very temporary trench.
Maybe tie a line to the top of the mainmast attached to the little red runner and tip the boat over to get off.
We are a twin keel vessel.
Your dinghy isn't a good tow boat but pushing your bow in the direction you want to go works well.
glad I found your channel! I'm Hooked!
I have been stuck on a sailboat ⛵ with a fixed keel and deep draft. She is a custom draft on a gulfstar of 6.6 feet i was on fort Myers Beach and at low tide it was dry all the way around the boat. She whaigh 36k lbs.
Just the perfect time to scrub the hull.
There are two sorts of sailors.
Those that have run aground;
And those that are going to😎
And those that claim to be but never leave the dock. : )
Thanks again for sharing. Cool stuff. I gather when the channel buoys are moved the charts are not updated?
Not soon anyway. They have the ability to quickly set virtual buoys or E-ATONs that show up on our AIS, and I wish they would do that.
Please do some fishing on your stops. Cool motor sail been wach for years. You have inspired me have rebuild 3 truck since you have started your build.
I don't fish. But I got crew that fish. That's coming up.
@@SVSeeker ok did not know thank you for the inspiration I have been building thing my hole life and allways been told to just buy it or get a new one you have made me feel a little bit more normal. Not that is a good thing but it something.
so many commented on "you need bow thrusters", no, absolutely not. With the Mississippi beeing so low wheels might be an option though...
I suppose the keel wedges in the sand , my nephew lives on perdido island , he's waving to you guys 🌝
There are two keels. The downstream keel gets sand blown out by the current. And tell your nephew he's welcome to come for a visit.
@@SVSeeker Ok, Doug I will tell my nephew your in the area of Perdido Island to keep an eye out for you during your stay. I know you should make the TV news , Congratulations on making it to the Beautiful Gulf Ocean and glad you had a professional crew to make it an enjoyable amazing adventure Doug & Betsy 🚢⚓🌊🏖🏝🌅 SV SEEKER 🌝 Happy Sunday Ahoy
Your soul may not be yours, but it is most certainly there.
I accept you believe that. : )
@@SVSeeker I accept that you don't 🙂👍
@@stillraven9415 Thanks
My local army corp reservoir, for maintaining the Ohio River's water levels, is not even down to "winter pool" level.
They could easily release the excess water, to help raise the Mississippi water levels.
Maybe they are saving the water, to maintain the Ohio River locks.
Who knows. About 5 years ago, they let Tulsa flood when they could have started releasing water days before. I think they wanted it to make power from at the dam. Turned out they managed to flood a bunch of homes.
If you were going to be in shallows often, you could make some type of bladder that would sit inside each keel and inflate to give you less draft.
Abraham Lincoln held a patent for a retractable inflatable riverboat lifting bladder that mounted to the side of the boat.(Brian Lohnes has a decent podcast about it)
Already looked at sausage air bags when looking to see if I could launch her in a creek to avoid the bureaucracy of the Tulsa Port. : )
*Samuel Hornet Wolf November 20, 2022 ...*
Someone needs to design a fleet submarine D-11 CAT Bulldozers for Dredging so they can go from one side of the river pushing to the other side!
I saw where salvagers had a device they would lower by their props that would redirect the wash to blow sand away to uncover their treasure something like that could be helpful for you in this and other instances.
A "mailbox". And dredging with the prop was pretty much what we were doing.
FYI…. If you had told the coast guard you were having a heart issue while aground they would have assisted you immediately.. haha
What was Melissa and Greg's boat? That thing was sweet!!
Twin keel and a 15 % list ? Was the current pushing the boat up on one keel ? Have you tried pulling on a halyard with the dinghy to level the boat ?
That was the current washing the sand out from the starboard keel. Ever once in a while we shifted sideways. Look at the track on the chart plotter. And no 50 hp dinghy is going to level a 70 ton twin keeled vessel. Just let the current and prop do it's thing.
Put a line on the halyard to the dingy from the top of the mast and pull it over and it will go right through. Its the only way to get it off without a tow boat.
We have twin keels.
@@SVSeeker thats a problem.
@@SVSecondChance That's a characteristic. It's only a problem if you don't understand how to deal with it.
Would it be posable to use the anchor to pull off the sand bar maybe tow the anchor out into position with the tender if to heavy you could float it with a buoy.
Without the chain it's purchase into course sand would be minimal. As long as we are making headway then it's a lot of risk with negligible reward. And then you have to recover it.
Next time you find a sandbar, Could you run the anchor out with the whaley, and use the winch to pull you forward?
We considered it but an anchor without chain, in sand would do little good. As as we were making progress without it, the danger of loosing someone in the water in that current, on a navigation channel and then the need to recover the anchor; all made it a bad decision.
Status Dangerous! More great adventure
Nice work getting off the bottom. Maybe time for the BoatUS unlimited towing endorsement. With your deck gear, learning to run out a kedge, would be a good skill to put in the tool box.
Running a kedge out without a chain in course sand would provide little purchase. Doing so in a four knots current on the side of a channel on the Mississippi when we are making satisfactory forward progress, and then we'd still need to recover the anchor from shallow water while in the channel. Not something I would do.
In some instances you can use Google maps satellite images to see the deep water of the mississippi.
What happened to the hydraulic cylinders that were to be used for steering? Could they not be used to cut down on the arm work out?
Yes but the exercise is good. Those cylinders are in the cargo hold, they were not installed for the river trip because there is no point to having an autopilot on the river.
Quick Question I feel like youve answered this before but are you filming a documetary for the whole trip down with 2 camera guys?
James is filming a documentary. He's been following for about 8 years now. He'll have a short out next year.
Time to invent a floating depth sounder drone grid you could send ahead your way giving course corrections in real time.
Ya know SonarPhone has a fishing unit that could drift ahead on a line. We'd have to have the boat in reverse to slow down enough but it would work better than our expensive B&G forward looking sonar that barely sees 30 feet ahead of the boat. amzn.to/3Avss4S
@@SVSeeker Nature’s forces against man always an interesting fight making one feel to live. I had some sweaty hands while watching great crew. Thank you for sharing!
Get you a kinetic recovery rope . I’m telling you it will get you out of anywhere you’re stuck. Its worth every penny ! Seriously look it up . But other than stay safe and safe sailing
I worked on tugboats for 10 years there's an old saying you go out the way you came in never forward when you run a ground back it out till you get back into the good water where you were simple stuff never forward don't fight it
And tugboats have plenty of power to do that. Or just make their own path forward like we watched them doing at Greenville.
a 30' extendable hydraulic ram fixed to your stern would help lots ya
Get your BoatUS membership. Best deal around. Plus they have local knowledge. I'm a towing Captain for them in NW Washington.
SV Seeker having a real workout on the ole Miissip ... sounds like a sea shanty . 🪗
what about picking something super heavy up from the center of the boat and take it far away from the centre of the boat with the beam, that makes is heal over?? good luck
We can shift water and fuel, but we are a twin keel boat so shifting weight just puts more load of the other keel.
@@SVSeeker yes sorry didn’t have the underwater situation sharp. Saw that you guys were off, save travel
This is all fascinating. But I sure miss the building of the boat.
Time to start your own.
@@SVSeeker well put
Curious; why didn’t you shuttle your anchor out with the Whaley and use your winch to help add some force to the equation?
Running a kedge out without a chain in course sand would provide little purchase. Doing so in a four knots current on the side of a channel on the Mississippi when we are making satisfactory forward progress, and then we'd still need to recover the anchor from shallow water while in the channel. Not something I would do.