Cinematic Excrement: Episode 66 - Teenage Mutant Ninja Turtles
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- Опубліковано 30 бер 2015
- In which I ponder modern tastes in sandwiches.
NOTE: I know the Nostalgia Critic recently reviewed this movie as well. By the time I found out he was going to do so it was far too late to change my own plans, and I'm certainly not trying to steal his thunder (as if I could). Shit happens.
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"He looks like he's wearing the Iron Throne!" LOL
Fun fact: in the original comic the TMNT were created when a canister of radioactive material hit a young Matt Murdoch in the head causing blindness (Daredevil). The canister bounced off and landed in the sewer causing the TMNT to be created. So TMNT is technically in the Marvel Universe.
Is that for real? If so, I thought I knew pretty much all marvel lore but if not, it's a good joke. Either way, 👍.
I just watched Batman vs. Teenage Mutant Ninja Turtles and I loved it!
Easily the best TMNT movie since the first.
Me too!
my biggest complaint is the same for the transformers franchise: the focus is on the humans and not the title characters. probably michael bay's influence there.
Artaxerxes1986 Travis Knight did that right when he directed Bumblebee. Nice!
I bust out laughing at "taataru suupu". Like, I'm sure the actor could've said that in Japanese, they have words for "turtle" and "soup" in Japan.
April's father was an average fighter but he was a brilliant scientist.
One thing I notice is that Michael Bay's movies about superhuman things tend to focus more on the ordinary humans THAN those superhuman things. In transformers, the military does most of or a lot of the fighting. And now in this, we have April delivering the killing blow. Says interesting things about how he approaches these franchises.
DarthBobCat I always felt it was because humans were easier to film
DarthBobCat If Michael Bay directed My Little Pony, he would’ve focus mostly on the humans as the protagonists instead of the ponies, and instead of “Friendship is Magic”, it’s “Friendship is Explosive”... just like EVERY FREAKING TOY BASED MOVIE HE MADE!!!
Travis Knight did that right when he directed Bumblebee, and rebooted the franchise. Nice!
I just realized when the credits were shown, the stunt coordinator, David Leitch, is the co-director of John Wick.
The only legitimately funny moment in this movie was the elevator scene. That was hilarious.
They should have kept Eric Sachs as "A" Shreader, then at the end have a scene with a man in proper Samurai style armour being told that Sachs Techo shreader failed. Then you could have a sort of Franchise Shreader thing where all Shreader's gang-boss minions don the Shreader mantle. This can explain why he keeps coming back after getting killed so many times, this way Oroku Saki can be a General controling everything and his minion Shreaders do all the dangerious stuff. You can also have several different "styles" of Shreaders as each Foot Clan Underbosses has a different Shreader Armour.
TMNT 2014 movie, in a nutshell: Could have been worse, a lot worse...
Achillez In a nutshell... or, in a half shell? Hurr hurr. :3
+kurvos I wonder how much money they "Shelled" out for this one.
+Artemis Stalloff Oh go to shell.
sm4carnageihope Please shell me your backstory
***** I'll shell it to you for the right price.
I'm surprised he didn't mention the parallels in this movie and the amazing Spider-Man
I was hoping Casey Jones would make an appearance, Elias Koteas portrayed the character amazingly in TMNT (1990). With the hockey mask and sports equipment weaponry.
I was just starting to think Ken Watanabe would be a fine choice for the role of Shredder, just seconds before you mentioned his name yourself.
Here's a useless fact for ya! Sacks sounds very close to the Swedish word sax, which in English means scissors. Considering he was originally supposed to play the Shredder, I think this is kinda funny, though I highly doubt that was intentional.
Here's an even more useless fact: His original name Sachs would indicate he's from Saxony, and the Saxons supposedly got named after their swords. And the name of their swords, "sahs" is also related to the Swedish word for scissors.
But then they named him Sacks, which means he is balls. Or a dick. Still a downgrade.
I'm kinda disappointed that you did not mention how the turtles were saved from severe blood loss. It is the most implausible thing ever. You see....April gives them a dose of adrenaline...and that magically heals them!
Okay list of things wrong:
1) Adrenaline does not work like that. You can't have adrenaline and be magically healed.
2) Even if you were, you would still be weak afterward from the blood loss
3) WHY THE FUCK WOULD A DUDE WHO IS INTENT ON KILLING YOU HAVE ADRENALINE ON STANDBY?!?!
The mustard and parmesian sandwitch is a reference to arrested development where actors character in that show eats mustard and parmesian in one episode lol.
And that in turn is a reference to how the actor that plays Gene Parmesan in the show also played Colonel Mustard in Clue.
Saying that the TMNT franchise is stupid, is kind of debatable. I'm mean yes the idea of giant mutated turtles doing martial arts is a ridiculous idea, and while the mirage comics were a parody other comics, they still manage to take themselves seriously as oppose to the 80's cartoon where they just embrace that ridiculousness. Which is something that the original 90's movie had going for with the seriousness of the comics, while it did have some of the silliness of the cartoon, but the tone of it in general was the dark nature of the comics which also was adapted by the 2003 animated series. The movie also have a story arc that was done really well. I do think that the TMNT franchise has had developed over the years, making it more for an older audience, especially with the IDW comics.
I think the word he meant was silly.
KidSnivy69 Yeah I suppose, but still I do think their is more to it than people give it credit.
DarkHeroesForever Look I'm a fan, I know it can be deep. But doesn't change the fact the initial premise is crazy
KidSnivy69 Understandable
You and the Nostalgic Critic are both great.
Hey Smeggy. The mustard and Parmesan sandwich joke is from Arrested Development.
Meredith Caudle Oh, I see.
Cinematic Excrement
Don't worry. I was so bored the first time I watched it, I had to be told that joke was there the second time around.
Meredith Caudle When you think about it, that's actually kinda clever in a subtle "blink and ya miss it" sort of way.
*****
It was looking back but for those who hadn't watch the show, they would have thought it was just anther weird and lame joke to pile atop all the others. Still though, Smeg's confusion over it was worth it.
oh, was that it? I thought it had something to do with the joke in the cartoon about the turtles putting ice cream on pizza
And why call the turtles "ninja" at all? You know ninjitsu ok, but 4 10 feet tall giants do not screams STEALTHY WARRIORS!
Convoy81 *Ninjutsu
Yes sorry;)
4’10? That’s really short...
Whoopi Goldberg is starting to look like Aughra from _The Dark Crystal_.
Hasn't she always :-?
I wouldn't mind her playing the part in the inevitable remake.
Lol!
“You look like turtles. Smell like turtles. You can’t be turtles! Turtles gone!”
Aughra scared the fuck out of me when I was growing up! I still get goosebumps when I think of her taking her eyeballs out 😳
Where has this channel been all my life?
Instant subscriber!
Another problem with April telling her boss about the 'pet' connection. Either her boss doesn't believe her and she gets fired, OR her boss does believe her, and she gets taken off the story because of her personal connection to it. Lose/lose.
They probably spelled Sacks with a K because they didn't want a lawsuit from Goldman & Sachs.
Correct me if i'm wrong, but I don't think you can straight up trademark a common name like Sachs.
Maybe not, iono. I was just guessing.
...How the hell did I miss this? It didn't show up in my subscription feed! FAIL, youtube, mega fail!
***** But I always watch Sean's videos! Actually, about once a month I click on his channel and re-watch all my old favorites of his. Same thing happens with SciShow, I never miss an episode yet they don't show up in my feed. It's madness, MADNESS I tells ya!
3:15 It's a weird time where Michael Bay is more open to public opinion than the DC Universe, how is this happening 😂😂
Really good review. A couple of things, though. One - WETA Digital did the effects for the Turtles, not ILM. Two - you forgot to mention the phenomenally stupid plot point of Splinter and the Turtles learning ninjitsu FROM A FUCKING BOOK! Three - you also forgot to point out that the majority of the movie's plot points, especially the climax, are ripped off wholesale from The Amazing Spider-Man. Four - I do agree with you that April delivering the final blow to The Shredder is insulting. However, if the April from the 2012 cartoon had done this, it would have been awesome. On a side note, if the Turtles were to be realized through practical effects, there are only two people working today that can create creature makeup to rival Jim Henson - one is Richard Taylor, who created the makeup for The Lord of the Rings and The Hobbit movies, and the other is Rick Baker. Say what you will about Tim Burton's Planet of the Apes, but the apes in that film looked fucking awesome. In fact, I daresay they even look better than the apes in the new movies. Don't get me wrong those apes still look awesome, but well done practical effects will always trump even the best CGI;
D Vass I think you're confusing TMNT with something else. It was definitely ILM.
Cinematic Excrement You're right. My bad. But my point still stands - there are plenty of people in Hollywood who will gladly produce phenomenal makeup for the Turtles. I should add Spectral Motion to the list. They created the creature makeup for the Hellboy movies, and they even brought in Rick Baker as a consultant.
Yeah, I agree with you on the April bit. Even the original 80/90s April bringing the final punch would have been awesome because that April was at least LIKABLE and even if she did get into trouble, she was showing to be competent as a reporter unlike....what we saw in the movie who seemed to fail at everything other than having a look of dull surprise on her face.
The turtles looked butt-ugly to me but as I look at it, I think the main issue was the face and the skin texture. They looked OILY and too much like Shrek. Even if the Henson turtles looked silly, they looked pleasing to the eyes of both fans of newcomers. These looked like pure shit in a half shell.
Meredith Caudle The turtles in this movie reminded me of the shitty 'Out of the Shadows' game.
William DeMarco
I will admit right now that I have NOT played that. =P
18:35 Was Michael Bay so desperate for ideas that he started ripping off his own movies?
You and the Nostalgia Critic review some of the same movies. So sometimes I look at both your review and the Nostalgia Critic's review of the same movie and compare. The main differences between you guys is that the Nostalgia Critic makes his reviews more funny and comedic, while your reviews are more informative and sometimes serious. You can be funny sometimes. I like both of you guys
I love them both, but this guy's approach is better, on the whole. It's more insightful.
And not just telling your boss that the vigilantes were your former pets who now 6 feet tall and know ninjutsu, but you don't have any evidence or eye witnesses to back you up.
When I was a kid I thought Vernon was drawn kind of like a rat so I called him "Vermin Fenwick." Apparently I was the only one who knew what that meant though because whenever I'd say it the other kids just gave me a blank stare. There were a lot of words I knew that no one else seemed to for some reason. But I also called Baxter Stockman "Bastard" and everyone knew that one. I think James Rolfe and his friends did that too so it's nice to know I wasn't the only one there at least.
Ken Watanabe IS Oroku Saki and they had a chance to use those skills and his input to make him a tragic villain from a Samurai caste, but no . . . we had to have whatever the crap we got in the movie was.
What seems to be forgotten is the Ninja Turtles were a a parody, a satire, in their original comic book form. The first comics were nothing but a razz on Marvel comic tropes, they incorporated the go-to hooks Marvel had come to rely on: teenagers, mutants, martial arts, and anthromorphic animals.
Always thought Bryce Dallas Howard would have made the perfect April...
Turtles in A Half Shell, Turtle Power, what a Sach of Mutagen, the Cops got Defunded and the Social Workers were all in Therapy
I honestly believe that everyone involved in these adaptions, sequels etc etc are secretly laughing at the gullible movie audiences who pay to watch this shite. They sit in their meetings and conversations probably include them mentioning things like, "We don't give a shite about the fan base. We do what we want, because the fans will still pay to watch and frankly we don't care cos we will get our money either way - we'll get stupid rich." *evil laughter*
I want also to point out that Shredder looks like he has two Swiss Army Knives as his hands! XD
The thing that annoyed me the most was the whitewashing of the Japanese culture/Ninja element. For me, that's always been the most interesting aspect of the turtles and the thing that really is the crux of the story. All the pizza eating, joke spewing fun are great components, but it was the juxtaposition of the tonal darkness and conceptual silliness present in the original comic that drew me in.
I was getting annoyed at the white wash comment until I realised that ethnicity wasn't the only thing to be erased from TMNT, and it puzzles me because why in hell would you remove what made this franchise popular to begin with?
Well actually Battle: LA wasn't that bad for what it as worth but everything else Liebmann did was either terrible or boring.
Erik Sachs was probably an attempt to avoid the complaints about having a foreign villain... Really it was a no win situation.
Another thing to note is that they were teenagers in the flashback of splinter discovering ninjutsu, and the size of the original Turtles. Had they erase the noses and kept those character designs.... the movie still would have sucked for other reasons, but at least the turtles would have looked like the turtles.
Don't worry about reviewing something others have reviewed. I just did a review of "A Nightmare on Elm Street Part 2: Freddy's Revenge." and found others have reviewed it on UA-cam as well. You can never have enough of the same thing if it's done by different people.
3:59
This some dank-ass meth, hey let's pick the cast now.
Lens flare here, lens flare there, lens flare EVERY-FUCKING-WHERE!! Goddammit, JJ you see what you started??!!
@ 6:12
That's why everyone loved Lawrence Welk: all the sax and violins!
I have seen Nostalgia Critic and Angry Video Game Nerd first before watching this, and I have to admit, I like to hear different thoughts on certain films :)
Yeah, that movie blows an infinite number of goats. Thanks for so entertainingly tearing it a new one. Loving your channel!
Vernon Fenwick was the perfect role for Andy Dick.
In all fairness I good like the "concept" of Shredder's power armor though this might be just because it reminds me of the 2003 Shredder's exoskeleton.
I liked this movie, though it was a real good fantasy actioner, but I thought the final battle with Shredder and The Turtles looked too much like Transformers
The mustard and parmesan thing is a call back to a joke from Arrested Development. :) Love your vids by the way!
I'm glad you didn't completely shit on this movie. It had a lot going for it, and it may have missed the mark, but my brother and I actually had a lot of fun, surprisingly enough.
What a weird coincidence. This week, the Nostalgia Critic is doing a crossover review with the AVGN on the same movie.
Nothing wrong with this. I just think it's ironic. Great review, by the way! :)
They should have NOT altered the script. Sachs should have been kept as "seeming" to be The Shredder and kept the movies script with him as the main bad guy.
Then at the end you can have Karai, the female Japanese student/daughter of Oroku Saki, in a end credit type thing going to a place in Japan.
You then see a man in shadow wearing traditional Samurai Armour sitting on a throne.
Karai say's something like "Your American experiment has failed my lord, He was a poor student"
It pans to a set of bladed gauntlets and Shredders traditional bladed Samurai helmet.
The figure puts on his helmet and sits forward showing it is the Shredder and he says "It doesn't matter, I have many more students where that fool Sachs came from"
Fade to Black. This adds that Sachs wasn't the ACTUAL Shredder, just someone pretending to be him, this also explains the stupid mech suit.
It also shows a reason why The Shredder keeps dying in the comics and seems to come back to life, because the ones that die were also Shredder's students.
This also cuts out the numerous plot holes created when they altered the script.
It still would have been a shite movie, but at least it would have made some semblance of sense.
Also has anyone else noticed that for TMNT they completely ripped off the ending for Amazing Spiderman?
(About what it said in the description) I like both you and nostalgia critic.
I think it would be great if you reviewed "In the Name of the King: A Dungeon Siege Tale."
Love your In Flames shirt
As a fan who watched the 2003 show as a kid ( even the spin off series fast forward) I actually liked the movie. Also I have to point out that Megan Fox can act and there are a few movies like Jennifer’s Body which showcase this but most of the time she gets cast in these nothing roles so the producers can put her on the marketing posters.
love that shirt!
Now that I think about it, I don't think movie Turtles have EVER beaten Shredder.
In the first he's actually fighting Splinter, who just dodges and lets his own momentum carry him over the ledge into a garbage truck where he gets crushed by Casey Jones.
In the second, he goes Super Shredder and then tears the dock down on top of himself.
He wasn't even in the third, or the CGI.
Having the Turtles NOT be the ones to finish him off is something of a tradition at this point.
I love the shirt man!
For what it's worth, I think you're way better than the Nostalgia Critic. His reviews have far far too much filler which isn't funny.
AtheistGamer He also tries WAY too hard to be funny. I've always found NC's more subtle humor the funniest
Remember from his room review where he realizes Tommy Wiesau is the lead actor, and his smile slowly melts in to frown of horror? I actually thought that was one of his funnier jokes
AtheistGamer Nostalgia Critic's reviews aren't really reviews, there just bad sketch comedy and mugging for the camera. At least with Smeggy he actually reviews the movie. He may do a joke every now and then but it's not in sacrifice of the review.
James.H. I disagree but respect your opinion
I like them both
23:55 You should have referenced Jack Sparrow's jar of dirt thing from POTC 2.
Weird coincidence that the NC released a review of this movie on the exact same day, but still, good review!
I'm actually going to watch the Nostalgia Critic version with my girlfriend tomorrow. She's a big fan, I actually never watched him. After watching a couple of his episodes, I prefer your review style. It's more understated and subtle.
You seriously earned that Like just for the Nya-na-na-nana dance. :D
Have any of you noticed that the Shredder's evil plan is almost exactly like the Lizard's evil plan from The Amazing Spider-Man?
I'm guessing the next review could be one of the Jurassic Park sequels, considering the release of Jurassic World is right around the corner.
I'll bet his next review is either:
Birdemic 2
OR
Sharknado 2
A shot? Like one single shot? Nah, gonna need more. To actually watch the movie I would have to be drunk bordering on comatose
I absolutely 💓 shredder Armour
My problem with their look in this movie is that they now appear to be steroid pumping bodybuilders. Wtf is up with that?
Should have kept fichtner as ahredder. He'd have been good. Especially if they were going for more of an 80s cartoon type of movie.
I made that exact same princess bride reference in the movie theater!
I refuse to see this movie. I don't like Megan Fox and I loved the original movie, cartoon and video game. This was an unnecessary reboot/remake.
Out of the shadows is a guilty pleasure for me
I just read the upload alert from my Gmail account about this video while at work, sooooo I'll view the video later today.
Happy April Fool's Day, Everyone!
I know...late to the party. But Sack's industries missed out on a great slogan. "Sacks Industries will go balls deep to satisfy its customers!"
It is also possible that splinter learned about shredder because he had heard Sachs talking to shredder at one point.
Seems like that ever since Michael Bay's Coyote Ugly cameo, every Bay-related movie would include at least one "Bay Girl" - slight variation of a Bond Girl - for some reasons.
i think they should have kept sacks as the shredder since it is very clear that was the plan and they made that decision so have balls to see it through.
Cinematic Excrement Sean, I forgot to ask you, but what is your opinion on the fully CG animated TMNT movie from 2007 and do you have any plans to review it?
Vernon Fenwick is essentially Gob Bluth in cartoon form. HOW DO YOU FUCK THAT UP?!?
"What do you mean he did it for the money? He's a doctor he's already rich..."
I think these turtles look like if Shrek and Swamp Thing had 4 horrid babies together
CGI is really not as cost-effective as everyone makes it out to be, particularly if it's as highly detailed as something like the Turtles. That's also one of the reasons why there's way too much focus on the humans: to avoid spending too much on visual effects. The rubber-suited Turtles from the first three films didn't have this issue, as far as I can tell.
At least the Turtles are mo-capped actors, which give the actors something to react to, unlike with the Star Wars prequels. Not that the actors have a lot to work with, anyway.
This is true and erroneous! The use of CGI effects may be most cost effective in reducing or eliminating the high insurance costs associated with the making of these films(action, sci-fi, fantasy).
The use of practical effects involves the applications of explosives( a Michael Bay fav) pyrotechnics, hydraulics, etc. All very dangerous to the cast and crew.
If all of the effects are digital or CG, then in principle there is no danger to the cast and crew. This includes dangerous location-shoots.
The Mustard-Parmesan sandwich is a Arrested Development reference
Y-you! You ruined my childhood favourite cartoon....! Damn you korra! Damn you! :Grumble:grumble:
....How?
(If you're talking ATLA, you can just pretend Korra didn't happen)
I want an ATLA sequel damned michael.
Then go read The Promise, The search, and The rift. You even get to find out what happened to zuko's mom.
That's bullcrap too. Zukos mom was alive and had lost her memory? Wtf?
The comics, the movie, and actual sequel were all crap compared to the original.
Wait... The goon dies instantly when he's given the toxins so how in hell Sacks plan of selling the cure works already?
I kinda liked the movie but jeez it could be really stupid at time! Oh, and Megan Fox sucks for this role and she was the worst part for me.
Has any else realized that Shredder's plan to release gas on top of a tower is very similar to the climax from The Amazing Spider-man?
+Die - Hearts Yes, anyone with at least half-a-brain would've figured that out by now. But yeah, I totally caught on to that when I first saw it in theaters.
Neo-Xgray87 Right
They should have called him Eriku Sacky.
This is good. Me watch your other vids immediately. I like things and stuff.
The sandwich thing is from Arrested Development
You forget that they did all this fighting after escaping Sacks after having a lot of their blood drained.
No snark for Tony Shalhoub as Splinter? Or the fact that his motivation for teaching ninjutsu to the Turtles has changed from "make them more effective fighters" to "make them stop being a pain in my ass"?
8:59 Please, the term is "party dude".
Hey Smeghead, did you get around to reviewing Batman and Robin or Mac and Me yet?
22:58 Well duh, the off getting coffee and doughnuts! (It's NY after all) :D
15:02 So should April have sent a 'message in a bottle' to somebody?
While I still lament the fact that we never got the true-to-the-roots anarchistic splatter-fest based on the original comics, this could have been so much worse. I'd go as far as to say that I liked it for what it was; A feel-good pop-corn action flick with fun visuals. After the Transformers sequels and Man of Steel, I consider that a success.
Which is kind of sad in of itself, if you stop to think about it, but that's the hand we genre-fans have been dealt.
William Fincher would have been amazing as shredder even if he is caucasian james avery was black and he still owned the character
The Sandwich is a reference to a show Will Arrent is on. (Arrested Development I think) It was a reference so good Cinemasins took a sin off this movie because of it.