Recreating Imitation Damascus Circa 1824

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  • Recreating Imitation Damascus Circa 1824
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  • @shepardsforgeh2031
    @shepardsforgeh2031 4 роки тому +16

    Tim
    Heath here. Just wanted to say how much I really enjoyed this vid. I enjoy all your content but this was great with all the history dropped in! That was a great addition please keep like vids coming!

    • @BIGDOGFORGE
      @BIGDOGFORGE  4 роки тому +1

      Thank you and its good to see you again, Thanks for watching.

  • @knifethrower9733
    @knifethrower9733 4 роки тому +5

    I seen this one guy using a rattle gun to twist his Damascus billet, It worked really really well

  • @veteranironoutdoors8320
    @veteranironoutdoors8320 4 роки тому +3

    I think it’s only fitting you send that to Steve! That was an awesome video, I truly enjoyed it. This is exactly the kind of video I LOVE to watch. I can see how adding cast iron powder would help make contrast between layers as well as aiding the forge welding process, I can’t wait to see what you do with this in the future!

  • @kensmapleleafretirement
    @kensmapleleafretirement 4 роки тому +4

    Oh my, that is wonderful. I have no knowledge of pattern welding, I can barely forge weld, I have watched a lot of videos and that is not what what I would think possible. I always hear the clean steel, flux and heat, light blows, do it again idea. They were able to do that with slightly less refined equipment. Darn, they were resourceful peoples. I will be watching for more of this. Thanks from Eastern Canada...

  • @jamesmoe9188
    @jamesmoe9188 4 роки тому +1

    This is my favorite Damascus pattern to date, not entirely sure why, but I find it particularly beautiful. Thank you for sharing your craft, both on your videos and among your fellow smiths.

  • @michaelrobertson8795
    @michaelrobertson8795 4 роки тому +2

    That turned out a lot better than I thought it would with the rust scale that turned black, that's a good pattern. Very good experiment👍

  • @GreenBeetle
    @GreenBeetle 3 роки тому +1

    Don't know how I missed this video. This is an awesome vid! good pattern for monosteel, very interesting.

  • @richardparker1699
    @richardparker1699 4 роки тому +1

    Love the pattern on the billet. Absolutely fantastic.

  • @joshschneider9766
    @joshschneider9766 3 роки тому +1

    5:32 was a good view. Love the way scrappy is built.

  • @Vic1943_
    @Vic1943_ 4 роки тому +1

    Thanks Tim looks great thanks for sharing blessings to you and yours 🙏 stay safe out there have a great day 😊🌞👍

  • @brysonalden5414
    @brysonalden5414 4 роки тому +1

    I was mesmerized! Fascinated! I've been wondering what to do with an old barrel band I found in the scrap heap on our farm, and now I know. Thanks for thinking of trying this, and for sharing the results.

  • @NeilGraham.I.M.F
    @NeilGraham.I.M.F 4 роки тому +1

    That pattern was very nice. There were some great looking stars in it

  • @edanthony4131
    @edanthony4131 4 роки тому +1

    That just answered a lot of questions I had about making Damascus and gave me a ton of ideas...Thanks for a great video!

  • @TheGarbageGhillie
    @TheGarbageGhillie 4 роки тому +1

    Aspiring Blacksmith here.
    Just watched this video and went to subscribe but it turns out I already was. 😂
    Really love how that damascus came out by the way and I appreciate the history lesson as well. I've got a lot to learn.

  • @leonalfaro082974
    @leonalfaro082974 4 роки тому +2

    Great job brother! Believe or not I made my first Damascus billet about a week ago just by looking at your videos. Keep up the great work!

    • @BIGDOGFORGE
      @BIGDOGFORGE  4 роки тому

      Good job man thanks for watching.

  • @cypherian9821
    @cypherian9821 4 роки тому +8

    Interesting take on Damascus pattern looks very nice , the teddy bear head mounted on the wall behind you ..um is there a story behind that lol

    • @BIGDOGFORGE
      @BIGDOGFORGE  4 роки тому +1

      Colab with Rick at Booya forge,
      ua-cam.com/video/WFAHyQzBzpg/v-deo.html

  • @hannemannironworks1651
    @hannemannironworks1651 4 роки тому +1

    That looks great Tim! Didn’t realize you could get a successful weld like that with rusty steel

  • @A.J.Collins
    @A.J.Collins 4 роки тому +1

    Another great video. Very informative. (I love Green Beetle's videos as well. I am glad you are friends.)

  • @douglasfathers4848
    @douglasfathers4848 4 роки тому +1

    That's amazing how that welded been rusty .
    maybe I will give it a go one day.

  • @grizzbknives2542
    @grizzbknives2542 4 роки тому +5

    I was wondering about the rust as well. Doing a canister Damascus and couldn't quite get all the rust out of the old crane cable I put in the canister with 1084 powder. I'll let you know how it turns out. Got my hopes up after watching this though.🤘😁

  • @mjonesjr75
    @mjonesjr75 4 роки тому +1

    Loved the video tim. That fake Damascus is pretty cool. The different process to make it was neat

  • @fedderback1
    @fedderback1 4 роки тому +1

    That was cool .I think the pattern with a solid center will make a nice looking knife.

  • @waltparkhurst2494
    @waltparkhurst2494 4 роки тому +1

    Awesome video Tim the billet looks great. Nice work and very interesting. Thanks and God Bless.

  • @seanm1690
    @seanm1690 4 роки тому +1

    A little bit of history recreated!!
    Looking forward to more in this series
    Stay safe bro!

  • @BeastlyIronworks
    @BeastlyIronworks 4 роки тому +1

    Another top shelf video Tim. Super cool, very educational and entertaining all at the same time🤩. Your a rockstar.

  • @GWIRailroad
    @GWIRailroad 4 роки тому +1

    That was fun and very interesting Tim!! Stay safe and healthy Wayne

  • @Moondog-wc4vm
    @Moondog-wc4vm 4 роки тому +4

    I think lockdown is starting to do strange things to my brain. I'm trying to focus on the smithing processes and learn a trick or two, but the whole time my subconcscious is singing dirty damascus to an old Michael Jackson tune. That didn't even occur to me when I watched the dirty damascus video!

  • @outbackladas
    @outbackladas 4 роки тому +1

    Great video again, very interesting and informative, especially the bit of Indian history. Also enjoyed watching the little power hammer in action, good on you Tim.

  • @TheOldaz1
    @TheOldaz1 4 роки тому +1

    Thanks Tim, love the history and a great result.

  • @BBForge
    @BBForge 4 роки тому +1

    amazing job as always Tim that came out looking very cool

  • @mtyson9004
    @mtyson9004 4 роки тому +1

    Very cool Tim! Thanks for sharing and God Bless you sir!

  • @techronmattic5876
    @techronmattic5876 4 роки тому +2

    Enjoying the more regular content Tim, this was a cool experiment

  • @oddwoodforge2305
    @oddwoodforge2305 4 роки тому +1

    Thats awesome Tim. I've got a bunch of old bands and I just found another today. Now I know what to do with them.

  • @andie_pants
    @andie_pants 4 роки тому +1

    5:01 I vote thumbs-up on the wide shots. Just like tornado chasing and, _ahem_ ...adult entertainment, it's nice when they back the camera off to let in the whole scene every now and then.

    • @andie_pants
      @andie_pants 4 роки тому

      Also, I'd love to see Will Stelter work his magic on one of your billets.

  • @mortglickman3217
    @mortglickman3217 4 роки тому +2

    winnie the pooh trophy on the wall, nice touch

  • @paulsalb1686
    @paulsalb1686 4 роки тому +2

    Very nice Tim!! Would greatly like to know about the document in more detail. Ben cleaning my shop getting ready to make it messy again making knives, axes and soapstone holders.

  • @charlesarnett8821
    @charlesarnett8821 4 роки тому +1

    Great video! I'm a amateur and that's only on the good days. Now, you have me doing research. 😂😂😂 I'm so glad I found your channel!!!!

  • @andreblanchard8569
    @andreblanchard8569 4 роки тому +1

    Suggestion, when you grind the edge put it on the magnet at a diagonal to spread out the wear on the belt.

  • @johnmccanntruth
    @johnmccanntruth 4 роки тому +1

    Very cool! Thanks for sharing and keep making cool stuff for us to see.

  • @almeyer405
    @almeyer405 4 роки тому +2

    Well that was suprising I never would have thought it would weld as rusty as that was.
    And the pattern looked good as well!

    • @RalphReagan
      @RalphReagan 4 роки тому

      I know, how crazy is that?

  • @JustinTopp
    @JustinTopp 4 роки тому +1

    Beautiful pattern great work
    . I do all my scrap Damascus dirty. Works out good enough so I don’t clean it

  • @willlothridge3197
    @willlothridge3197 4 роки тому +1

    That’s awesome! Good work Tim

  • @MPBushman
    @MPBushman 4 роки тому +1

    Another great video. Keep 'em coming!

  • @agraywolflaska
    @agraywolflaska 4 роки тому +1

    Good to see ya Tim In yamez Saturday streem the damascus is cool

  • @davidmspinelli8951
    @davidmspinelli8951 4 роки тому +1

    Excuses excuses. You should have never sold that DeLorian! That captain could have taught you all you ever wanted to know about Damascus and you could have taken him Scrappy! Oh wait, then you wouldn't have Scrappy but you would have the DeLorian which you could trade for a new Scrappy AND some Damascus! That was a pretty cool experiment man! Thank you for posting.

  • @bryanchrismer169
    @bryanchrismer169 4 роки тому +1

    Thanks for another great video Tim. Ive started to fool around with making Damascus any tips or tricks you could pass on? thanks for all you do. as i have learned a bunch so far.

  • @richardbryant7972
    @richardbryant7972 4 роки тому +2

    I seen a guy on the tube using pieces out of an old metal can to make Damascus with it is sorta like what you did but yours is better. He didn’t put anything in the middle for an edge. I guess point is you can make Damascus out of just about anything I guess. Great video great content, end result was pretty nice. Thanks for video stay safe god bless.

  • @kimfucku8074
    @kimfucku8074 4 роки тому +1

    Woaahhahaa, the bear on the wall! ROFL!

  • @philipprigmore8723
    @philipprigmore8723 4 роки тому +1

    Tim, if you feel like it, you can send some of that my way. I won't be making any Damascus until I get my hammer and press built. And I am not sure when that's going to be.I have all the materials to build them, but I don't want to build them and have to immediately move them. Where I now have my forge I might have to move to another location.

  • @TomokosEnterprize
    @TomokosEnterprize 4 роки тому +1

    The rust was crazy to leave in but wow. I guess it is an ok thing Tim. The pattern is really good and the planer/sander sure works just as you wanted it to. Thanks bud and I look forward to your next post.

  • @chuckdavis7740
    @chuckdavis7740 4 роки тому +1

    beautiful work!

  • @OuroborosArmory
    @OuroborosArmory 4 роки тому +1

    Love this. Always like the historical stuff and experiments. Any chance you have the document digital? I’d love to read it.

  • @paulorchard7960
    @paulorchard7960 4 роки тому +1

    More and more!

  • @honeycuttracing
    @honeycuttracing 4 роки тому +1

    Very cool, like see you build that knife

  • @charminghollowforge1109
    @charminghollowforge1109 4 роки тому +1

    Very cool Tim well done my friend

  • @benjamineaster589
    @benjamineaster589 4 роки тому +1

    Awesome work.

  • @lunkydog
    @lunkydog 4 роки тому +1

    Enjoyed it Tim. I was just reading about someone using cast iron powder as a flux. I guess the biggest benefit is that it doesn't attack your forge floor.

  • @bearfootknivesgunforge9183
    @bearfootknivesgunforge9183 4 роки тому +2

    This was and interesting experiment you did Tim. I'd like to try some of that. God Bless and keep Hammering. I look forward to your videos, they keep my mind going since it's slow at my shop creating knives because of my cancer treatments.

  • @slymcfly123
    @slymcfly123 4 роки тому +1

    Love these videos

  • @IslandMetalForge
    @IslandMetalForge 4 роки тому +1

    Tim, that turned out awesome I can't believe I worked and showed a pattern... Guess what else started working!

    • @BIGDOGFORGE
      @BIGDOGFORGE  4 роки тому +1

      what was the fix ?

    • @IslandMetalForge
      @IslandMetalForge 4 роки тому +1

      @@BIGDOGFORGE I think what I did with allowing permissions at the end there made it work... scott says hi

    • @BIGDOGFORGE
      @BIGDOGFORGE  4 роки тому

      @@IslandMetalForge verry cool man and Hi Scott I hope all is well...

    • @IslandMetalForge
      @IslandMetalForge 4 роки тому

      @@BIGDOGFORGE on my way home now, should be about an hour if you have the time we can play with it 😁😁😁 message me on skype or email me... we can talk there.

  • @blackthornknives
    @blackthornknives 3 роки тому +1

    Fascinating

  • @Lesnz2009
    @Lesnz2009 4 роки тому +1

    You're so right it is not 1824 but I will have a word with the good doctor the next time she drops in for a cuppa tea in between her travels...Four UK sources immediately come to mind NAtional Archives London Guildhall Library, British Library and Imperial War Museums. I had a quick look at the National Archives amd British Library, I think they woudl be a good place to start...I did find out a number of medal card for Indian soldier who were Blacksmiths but the time period was much later than 1824...cool result there with an interesting pattern.

  • @00_negative
    @00_negative 4 роки тому +1

    There are I think 3 types of iron oxide and forge(hammer) scale is the one of them. I believe the melting temp is lower than steel so (not for sure just my opinion) being Forge welding temps get the surface of steel nearly melted the iron is smelting between the layers of nearly molten steel creating a vein of iron. Really quite a genius process if you ask me. I just wonder if they figured it out on purpose or by accident. The original wootz Damascus came from an iron mine in Jordan that had a very low percentage of zirconium in it I believe that gave it the pattern. You never cease to amaze me Tim God bless

    • @BIGDOGFORGE
      @BIGDOGFORGE  4 роки тому

      Thank you my friend and thanks for watching..

    • @jakebendel5238
      @jakebendel5238 4 роки тому

      Aimless there is a very long video out there about making wootz damascus. you might find that very interesting.

  • @drason69
    @drason69 4 роки тому +1

    That's awesome Tim! I think ( I know, don't hurt yourself) that when the rust is 'encased' in the steel, it's deprived of oxygen, and could be reabsorbed, as iron/steel. Interesting 😀👍🏼🗡️⚒️⚒️❤️❤️

  • @duaneaubuchon9453
    @duaneaubuchon9453 4 роки тому +1

    Nice job sir!!!!!!

  • @stokermeister3
    @stokermeister3 4 роки тому +1

    Great job

  • @3tman892
    @3tman892 4 роки тому +1

    Uu wow that looks great. Love to make a knife or a leuku out of that one. Great job as allways 👍

  • @NamBui-ot2ox
    @NamBui-ot2ox 4 роки тому +1

    So beautiful, bro.

  • @jtsimmons3133
    @jtsimmons3133 4 роки тому +1

    Rust. Who knew? Neat vid, a look into the past.

  • @timothyhurley6097
    @timothyhurley6097 Рік тому

    Hey there Tim In Washington, it is Tim in Texas. I got unsubscribed somehow, who knows the mind of UA-cam and their Alligator Rhythms. Cool stuff with the Damascus.

  • @TomChame
    @TomChame 4 роки тому +1

    Very neat!!

  • @stevestroupe4120
    @stevestroupe4120 4 роки тому +2

    Interesting thanks for the video.

  • @bearfootknivesgunforge9183
    @bearfootknivesgunforge9183 3 роки тому +1

    Good video. Thanks

  • @ethanphillips8637
    @ethanphillips8637 4 роки тому +1

    Nice pattern Tim

  • @indoorsandout3022
    @indoorsandout3022 3 роки тому +1

    I'm going to try this. I think it would be a good outer shell on a soshu kitae lamination.

  • @RalphReagan
    @RalphReagan 4 роки тому +1

    Super cool

  • @gregoryaul2005
    @gregoryaul2005 4 роки тому +1

    Nice Damascus

  • @fjgc1325
    @fjgc1325 4 роки тому +1

    Nice damascus

  • @wrightfamily5625
    @wrightfamily5625 4 роки тому +1

    Nice pattern

  • @spanglerthings5585
    @spanglerthings5585 4 роки тому +1

    I Like the history drop

  • @erikcourtney1834
    @erikcourtney1834 4 роки тому +1

    That’s amazing. I spend way to much time preparing metal apparently😂. Is your forge still a Venturi or is it a blown system?

  • @jakebendel5238
    @jakebendel5238 4 роки тому +1

    Tim; i would love to get my hands on that document if it is available on line somewhere? If i may suggest this next item that piece of Damascus would make a great prize giveaway to some viewer?

    • @BIGDOGFORGE
      @BIGDOGFORGE  4 роки тому

      I'll see if I can post a link..Thanks for watching.

    • @beatlebomber
      @beatlebomber 4 роки тому

      I'd like to read that document also 😃

  • @stupidhead9117
    @stupidhead9117 Рік тому

    Awesome vice he has

  • @gundanium3126
    @gundanium3126 4 роки тому +1

    you can forge cast iron if you constantly let it cool and go back up to heat like you would wootz as i have actually tried it successfully. check out the video The Secrets of Wootz Damascus Steel
    here on you tube for more information on how to forge wootz, which also works for cast iron.

  • @dicksargent3582
    @dicksargent3582 4 роки тому +2

    Tim,
    How do we know that this wasn't being called "imitation Damascus" because it is just pattern welded steel as we call Damascus today ?

    • @BIGDOGFORGE
      @BIGDOGFORGE  4 роки тому +1

      It's the way it's referred to in the document I will see if I can post a link to it.

    • @dicksargent3582
      @dicksargent3582 4 роки тому

      @@BIGDOGFORGE OK would be great!! Thanks

  • @jojomama4787
    @jojomama4787 4 роки тому +1

    I got a double barrel shotgun from the late 1800s, it's has two sets of barrels one of which is Damascus,is this the type of steel you are talking about?

  • @coffeesstudios2122
    @coffeesstudios2122 4 роки тому +1

    Really cool pattern Tim, going to make a cool knife. You ever going to start making tongs again?

    • @BIGDOGFORGE
      @BIGDOGFORGE  4 роки тому +1

      I am going to start soon do you need some? .Just let me know.

    • @coffeesstudios2122
      @coffeesstudios2122 4 роки тому

      @@BIGDOGFORGE always lol, can't make a pair of tongs to kill me.. let me know so I can start saving up .

  • @jjppres
    @jjppres 4 роки тому +1

    Well isn't that interesting. From everything I have learned or been told along the way in my teachings I wouldn't have thought that would work. Sure appears to have stuck just fine. There is now a possibility that alot of prep work is unecessary from what I just watched. Thanks Tim. Great video! Hope all is well and things are getting better in your neck of the woods.

    • @BIGDOGFORGE
      @BIGDOGFORGE  4 роки тому

      You to Jim thank you take care and be safe.

  • @rcarvalhocutelariaartesana7087
    @rcarvalhocutelariaartesana7087 4 роки тому +1

    Hey Big dog... isen't batter to clean that surface before forge weld?

  • @billwoehl3051
    @billwoehl3051 3 роки тому

    San Mai? I've seen a couple of videos using San Mai, but still have no idea what it is or how it got it's name.