VR guy here. It definitely is my favourite way to race. All your points are valid, I would even add some if I may. - the lack of some vital HUD elements in VR - it adds complexity to the setup, the tracking might turn off, alignment might get screwy etc. But I just can’t go back, I can still race other titles that don’t support VR, but I can never play vanilla Gt7 again, VR almost became a crutch ! 😅
I do have the occasional issue where tracking gets lost and it removes you from the game until it picks you up again. Something that doesn't happen on my Quest 2 or Rift S but does on PSVR2 headset.
I have never had problems with tracking. I think it depends on what your headset sees in front of you and lighting of your room. Remember to enable that tracking assist option in your VR setup page if you have a tv/monitor in front of you when you play.
@@MrDRE01 googled it for you. A "vanilla personality" is a term used to describe someone who is very plain and unexciting. This person may lack unique or interesting qualities, and may not stand out from others in a significant way
It would be nice if it had 3D movie capabilities. It’s to much of a hassle to watch through my PC. My Quest 2 is like looking through a tube. The PS5 and PSVR2 could be so convenient!
Awesome video and topic Cas! I agree that of all of the types of media in VR, simulations like racing never get old. I have been racing in VR since 2016 with the Oculus CV1. Of all the racing sims I have, GT7 is visually the most realistic. Another simulation that I spend hours in is Black Hole Pool. If you like shooting pool and don’t have the space, give it a try. As far as the PSVR2 is concerned, I found that putting my headphones on first and the PSVR2 over it alleviates the pressure on my head and the sweet spot stays in place for as long as I have it on. No more adjusting every so often.
Nice content bro! I wear one of my "thick" padded paintball headbands under the psvr2. Not going to lie I sweat A LOT by nature, wasn't worried about marks/dents on my forehead but I know sweat in my eyes was going to be an issue from the start. Some paintball headbands are quite padded so also helps it the "pain" factor. Was playing the walking dead game the other day and my cat rubbed himself against my legs, OMG it was intense. Another thing, GT7 VR ruined all the other racing games for me, can't seriously play ACC or F1 anymore.
Agreed on all points and great to hear others having the same issues. Still trying to resolve the forehead imprints…I have a similar headband from amazon😅. Definitely jump out of my skin when someone taps me on the shoulder while I’m in VR. 😂 That being said, once you do sim racing in VR, you can’t go back to flatscreen.
Everything you said is pretty accurate 👍🏻 I agree with most of it. The technology has room for improvement in many aspects, but others will probably remain, like removing yourself from everything outside, as that is the main objective of VR. I hope VR gets enough traction over time so it will keep on evolving and doesn't get abandoned like other technologies. For me, performance and image quality can be improved over time with hardware advancements, but design wise it has to become more comfortable. Also, software and support can improve also.
I think the Quest really opened the door up for a lot of people when it comes to VR but for some reason it still seems like VR is not safe yet from failure, even though more companies are hopping into it. Like Apple getting into the game with a VR/AR headset but at a ridiculous price. I think that does nothing to help push the movement forward. How many people are actually going to buy that thing. We need more affordable headsets. We need more game developers hopping in. We need these headset to be small and light and maybe then even more people would be willing to purchase them. While I only use my VR headset for racing, Sony needs to start releasing some top games in VR if they want it to survive in their ecosystem.
Like you I do have to move my rig and make connections for power, usb, buttkicker and PSVR or PCVR. I also have attached a small fan to my rig to keep me cool, no extra step needed to set up😊
If you only drive one track in VR. Drive Alsace! The elevation on the track 🔥 My only gripe is the tightness/pressure on my head gets annoying. Inbetween the races I take it off & use the menus in the flatscreen, gives my head intermittent relief. Sticky googly eyes 👀 look great stuck on the front of the head set! Much more friendly looking
You can set up your PSVR 2 to "bleed" in some amount of sound from your surroundings. I prefer it that way just to be somewhat aware if anything starts happening around me.
Really? Never knew that. It would be great if it will help me hear my family when they try to speak to me. I hate that the headset doesn't have a volume button on the actual headset. Is it in the sound settings?
@@thecasualracinggamer That much was obvious from your presentation. It's called "sidetone" - even original PSVR had it. Settings > Sound > Audio Output > Sidetone
Hey Cas. Haven't had any time to play the last couple weeks. Had a friends daughter commit suicide and another one lost his mother. Anyway. I'm so close to getting my Psvr2. After coming 1st in my Country for the GTWS Nations cup I'm finding I'm having withdrawals 😂. Hoping to get back in to it shortly and get my groove back. By the looks you have improved greatly. Welldone.
I use vr for project cars, assetto corsa on pc and vr on ps5 for gt7. Imo It's quite simply the best immersion and best experience on a screen ever. I drive an ftype svr in real life and its not that, but it's closest ever. Nothing like looking at an opponants wheel next to yours on a bend or literally looking over your shoulder to see cars. Incredible. It's almost the same argument between in car cam or behind the car cam, of which I drive on car at all times. You either want immersion, or just racing to win counts. I am immersion all the way. When I drive my real life car, its about immersion and I'm not bothered about beating some other driver. Just me, the car, and some road or track!
@thecasualracinggamer the original tbh. I had htc vive when it first came out (before oculus came out) and one of the first conversions was project cars. It was a little sloppy but the wow factor was amazing. It us a bit weird in vr tho. You can stand up out of the roof. One of the great aspects of 1st prj cars is you can essentially raise and lower the seat. The immersion is awesome.
I think every vr player has been freaked out by someone coming in and talking to them at some point.😅 i also think that people new to vr should be aware that the graphics and resolution take a hit compared to flat screen racing.gt7 still looks great in vr and the immersion more than makes up for any loss of graphics fidelity for me.
Good point about the graphics. Definitely no where near a 4K screen but we are at a level of good enough to make it a real good experience with the current VR graphic quality.
I'm a motion sickness sufferer in real life so of course it can affect me in VR. I don't any mediation (in real life I do if on the sea). I did the short 15 min sessions with a break sick or not routine and keeping cool with light clothing. I can now play most games (not Kayak) for much longer and often just don't feel sick. GT7 - I was obviously worried about this but thought well I drive in real life and am ok. Anyway from the off I only got dizzy if I looked around or tried to look at my tyre wear etc. I decided to just look forward as much as possible and bend with the bends and turn my head etc. This instantly cured me for all tarmac racing although the banner comes up at the end of a race, just concentrating on the words or closing my eyes helped. I can now race for hours and get tired or thirsty before I get sick and can look around check tyres etc without any issue. Dirt tracks do still get me a bit though. I never used to be a race game fan and would get bored very quickly but with VR, I'm in the car and it's amazing. Yeah my quals on the board will show I'm not great but I still love it and at least now can usually gain places in a daily race. Re: the line on your head. I don't get that but then I do wear my headset pretty lose, just tight enough that it doesn't push on my nose area. Regarding the heat, yeah the headset can make you warm but I think it's the immersion and tension of the races that make us hotter. Keep up the good work with you content and look forward to using your ghost for this week's C that's if you're doing C which I suspect you will be. 👍👍
My wife and kids get me evertime while im playing in my own racing world. You get scared and then have to focus on both racing and the family members trying to communicate with you lol. All valid points about VR, totally agree. With that said its an incredible and addicting experience. I highly recommend the PSVR2 and GT7.
I think VR racing is much more comfortable than other VR gaming. For example, RPG VR game which need you walk around, I think the gaps between your body movement and your sight make you sick. But racing game is like you sit in a car and drive, the movement match what you see, it just feel much natural.
I actually use the headset to play ACC a lot more than GT7 but it’s because I prefer the physics of ACC over GT. Also I can use cinematic mode and don’t have to put my monitor stand in front of my rig anymore now my rig just sits in tucked in the corner.
@@pf296 I didn’t change it from what I had on my 55 inch. After following a FOV calculation app online it came out to 49 if I recall correctly. I just set the view setting on the PSVR2 to the highest one. It basically looks as big as it did on my 55. Also don’t know if you know but this Thursday we get update 1.9 and the 2023 cars and some updated tracks. That includes the new McLaren 720s EVO.
I have added a comment 3 times, suggesting a certain brand with a extra strap that really helped with the marks and also eldest and partner have small heads and was sitting on there nose and they would hardly use it. It stopped that and now i cant get them off beat saber.
The original PSVR cannot be compared to PSVR2. I owned it with GT Sport as well and sold it after a couple of weeks. GT7 with PSVR2 is in a whole other league.
@@thecasualracinggamer I am an engineer working in the semiconductor industry. I knew it would improve a lot. Just needed 3 or 4 generations to work out the bugs.
I didn’t think of that before I rushed out and bought it. I only play Gran Turismo and Snooker on the PS5 so it’s a shame it’s not getting used much now. It’s still fun to mess about with though.
The sweet spot is really small. While it's not the sharpest, clearest headset out there, if you just get it to stay in the sweet spot it definitely looks good enough.
@@thecasualracinggamer yeah, i get pain on the forhead after about an hour 🤣 nose kinda fixed.. I thibk they chnaged the eye alignment somehow, so dont need to adjust them lenses so close to your nose.. sweat to isnt good.. 🤭🤭
VR guy here. It definitely is my favourite way to race.
All your points are valid, I would even add some if I may.
- the lack of some vital HUD elements in VR
- it adds complexity to the setup, the tracking might turn off, alignment might get screwy etc.
But I just can’t go back, I can still race other titles that don’t support VR, but I can never play vanilla Gt7 again, VR almost became a crutch ! 😅
I do have the occasional issue where tracking gets lost and it removes you from the game until it picks you up again. Something that doesn't happen on my Quest 2 or Rift S but does on PSVR2 headset.
I have never had problems with tracking. I think it depends on what your headset sees in front of you and lighting of your room. Remember to enable that tracking assist option in your VR setup page if you have a tv/monitor in front of you when you play.
Vanilla gt7 ? The hell is that? 🤔
@@MrDRE01
googled it for you.
A "vanilla personality" is a term used to describe someone who is very plain and unexciting. This person may lack unique or interesting qualities, and may not stand out from others in a significant way
@@brechtdebaene makes no sense. At all.. And i thibk thats not what I asked 😃 anyways..
I loved 3D movies, it's the tech I miss the most. And the fact that psvr2 doesn't have 3D movie compatibility breaks my heart
It would be nice if it had 3D movie capabilities. It’s to much of a hassle to watch through my PC. My Quest 2 is like looking through a tube. The PS5 and PSVR2 could be so convenient!
Awesome video and topic Cas! I agree that of all of the types of media in VR, simulations like racing never get old. I have been racing in VR since 2016 with the Oculus CV1. Of all the racing sims I have, GT7 is visually the most realistic. Another simulation that I spend hours in is Black Hole Pool. If you like shooting pool and don’t have the space, give it a try. As far as the PSVR2 is concerned, I found that putting my headphones on first and the PSVR2 over it alleviates the pressure on my head and the sweet spot stays in place for as long as I have it on. No more adjusting every so often.
I assume you are using the Sony earphones?
@@thecasualracinggamer No, I’m using Steel Series Nova 7 headphones
Love VR especially GT 7 with the Fanatec DD wheel, but I had my wife try a race and she immediately got sick.
I've had my psvr2 since release only play gt7 never had motion sickness , on original psvr cudnt play without feeling sick on gt sport
Great video as always, really hope your channel grows to the audience it deserves, look forward to more
Thanks, appreciate that!
Nice content bro! I wear one of my "thick" padded paintball headbands under the psvr2. Not going to lie I sweat A LOT by nature, wasn't worried about marks/dents on my forehead but I know sweat in my eyes was going to be an issue from the start. Some paintball headbands are quite padded so also helps it the "pain" factor. Was playing the walking dead game the other day and my cat rubbed himself against my legs, OMG it was intense. Another thing, GT7 VR ruined all the other racing games for me, can't seriously play ACC or F1 anymore.
Haha, I can only imagine with the cat. 🤣
Agreed on all points and great to hear others having the same issues. Still trying to resolve the forehead imprints…I have a similar headband from amazon😅. Definitely jump out of my skin when someone taps me on the shoulder while I’m in VR. 😂 That being said, once you do sim racing in VR, you can’t go back to flatscreen.
The headband definitely has helped with the imprint for me. Before it there were times I thought I was going to be permanently scared from it. 🤣
Everything you said is pretty accurate 👍🏻 I agree with most of it. The technology has room for improvement in many aspects, but others will probably remain, like removing yourself from everything outside, as that is the main objective of VR. I hope VR gets enough traction over time so it will keep on evolving and doesn't get abandoned like other technologies.
For me, performance and image quality can be improved over time with hardware advancements, but design wise it has to become more comfortable. Also, software and support can improve also.
I think the Quest really opened the door up for a lot of people when it comes to VR but for some reason it still seems like VR is not safe yet from failure, even though more companies are hopping into it. Like Apple getting into the game with a VR/AR headset but at a ridiculous price. I think that does nothing to help push the movement forward. How many people are actually going to buy that thing. We need more affordable headsets. We need more game developers hopping in. We need these headset to be small and light and maybe then even more people would be willing to purchase them. While I only use my VR headset for racing, Sony needs to start releasing some top games in VR if they want it to survive in their ecosystem.
@@thecasualracinggamer indeed, the technology needs to improve but it definitely needs to get cheaper
Like you I do have to move my rig and make connections for power, usb, buttkicker and PSVR or PCVR. I also have attached a small fan to my rig to keep me cool, no extra step needed to set up😊
If you only drive one track in VR. Drive Alsace! The elevation on the track 🔥
My only gripe is the tightness/pressure on my head gets annoying. Inbetween the races I take it off & use the menus in the flatscreen, gives my head intermittent relief.
Sticky googly eyes 👀 look great stuck on the front of the head set! Much more friendly looking
The headband has helped remove some of that pressure I used to get but if not perfectly on, it can still start to hurt after a while.
I’m gonna give a headband a try. Good shout with that 👍🏻
You can set up your PSVR 2 to "bleed" in some amount of sound from your surroundings. I prefer it that way just to be somewhat aware if anything starts happening around me.
Really? Never knew that. It would be great if it will help me hear my family when they try to speak to me. I hate that the headset doesn't have a volume button on the actual headset. Is it in the sound settings?
@@thecasualracinggamer That much was obvious from your presentation. It's called "sidetone" - even original PSVR had it. Settings > Sound > Audio Output > Sidetone
@@betrion7 Thanks, I'll have to check it out.
@@thecasualracinggamer No worries. Good luck.
Hey Cas. Haven't had any time to play the last couple weeks. Had a friends daughter commit suicide and another one lost his mother. Anyway. I'm so close to getting my Psvr2. After coming 1st in my Country for the GTWS Nations cup I'm finding I'm having withdrawals 😂. Hoping to get back in to it shortly and get my groove back. By the looks you have improved greatly. Welldone.
Oh man, so sorry to hear that sad news.. 😢
Nice job on the Nations Cup. That's really great. You're going to love racing in VR when you get it.
Thanks dude. Yeah I can't wait.
I use vr for project cars, assetto corsa on pc and vr on ps5 for gt7. Imo It's quite simply the best immersion and best experience on a screen ever. I drive an ftype svr in real life and its not that, but it's closest ever. Nothing like looking at an opponants wheel next to yours on a bend or literally looking over your shoulder to see cars. Incredible.
It's almost the same argument between in car cam or behind the car cam, of which I drive on car at all times. You either want immersion, or just racing to win counts. I am immersion all the way. When I drive my real life car, its about immersion and I'm not bothered about beating some other driver. Just me, the car, and some road or track!
Do you play the original Project Cars or Project Cars 2?
@thecasualracinggamer the original tbh. I had htc vive when it first came out (before oculus came out) and one of the first conversions was project cars. It was a little sloppy but the wow factor was amazing. It us a bit weird in vr tho. You can stand up out of the roof. One of the great aspects of 1st prj cars is you can essentially raise and lower the seat. The immersion is awesome.
I got my PSVR2 on release. I can't play games on flat screen now it spoiled me
Agree. Haven't played flat screen racing in years.
Me two and gt7 was never my favourite sim I miss playin acc , ac, pc2 but cant after vr ,
You made some very valid points.
I think every vr player has been freaked out by someone coming in and talking to them at some point.😅 i also think that people new to vr should be aware that the graphics and resolution take a hit compared to flat screen racing.gt7 still looks great in vr and the immersion more than makes up for any loss of graphics fidelity for me.
Good point about the graphics. Definitely no where near a 4K screen but we are at a level of good enough to make it a real good experience with the current VR graphic quality.
I'm a motion sickness sufferer in real life so of course it can affect me in VR. I don't any mediation (in real life I do if on the sea).
I did the short 15 min sessions with a break sick or not routine and keeping cool with light clothing. I can now play most games (not Kayak) for much longer and often just don't feel sick.
GT7 - I was obviously worried about this but thought well I drive in real life and am ok. Anyway from the off I only got dizzy if I looked around or tried to look at my tyre wear etc. I decided to just look forward as much as possible and bend with the bends and turn my head etc. This instantly cured me for all tarmac racing although the banner comes up at the end of a race, just concentrating on the words or closing my eyes helped. I can now race for hours and get tired or thirsty before I get sick and can look around check tyres etc without any issue. Dirt tracks do still get me a bit though.
I never used to be a race game fan and would get bored very quickly but with VR, I'm in the car and it's amazing. Yeah my quals on the board will show I'm not great but I still love it and at least now can usually gain places in a daily race.
Re: the line on your head. I don't get that but then I do wear my headset pretty lose, just tight enough that it doesn't push on my nose area. Regarding the heat, yeah the headset can make you warm but I think it's the immersion and tension of the races that make us hotter.
Keep up the good work with you content and look forward to using your ghost for this week's C that's if you're doing C which I suspect you will be. 👍👍
That's great you were able to get past the motion sickness and enjoy VR racing!
A fan on a chair on a high setting blowing at your head is a must. Heat will bring on nausea.
My wife and kids get me evertime while im playing in my own racing world. You get scared and then have to focus on both racing and the family members trying to communicate with you lol. All valid points about VR, totally agree. With that said its an incredible and addicting experience. I highly recommend the PSVR2 and GT7.
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I think VR racing is much more comfortable than other VR gaming. For example, RPG VR game which need you walk around, I think the gaps between your body movement and your sight make you sick. But racing game is like you sit in a car and drive, the movement match what you see, it just feel much natural.
I actually use the headset to play ACC a lot more than GT7 but it’s because I prefer the physics of ACC over GT. Also I can use cinematic mode and don’t have to put my monitor stand in front of my rig anymore now my rig just sits in tucked in the corner.
Same as you here. I wonder, which fov are you using with acc in cinematic mode?
@@pf296 I didn’t change it from what I had on my 55 inch. After following a FOV calculation app online it came out to 49 if I recall correctly. I just set the view setting on the PSVR2 to the highest one. It basically looks as big as it did on my 55. Also don’t know if you know but this Thursday we get update 1.9 and the 2023 cars and some updated tracks. That includes the new McLaren 720s EVO.
I've tried this and so glad I did as ac was my fave game I use the helmet cam awsome
Meant acc
I have added a comment 3 times, suggesting a certain brand with a extra strap that really helped with the marks and also eldest and partner have small heads and was sitting on there nose and they would hardly use it. It stopped that and now i cant get them off beat saber.
Before I was using the headband the nose piece was a killer. Forgot about that.
I use VR and I love it! Never had any problems using VR. I'm on PS2. Do you have a vid on ButtKickers?
Hey! Yeah, VR is where it's at for racing! Sorry, don't have a vid on ButtKickers. Never used them.
I tried PSVR for GT sport a couple years ago. I returned the PSVR the next day. 😆
The original PSVR cannot be compared to PSVR2. I owned it with GT Sport as well and sold it after a couple of weeks. GT7 with PSVR2 is in a whole other league.
@@thecasualracinggamer I am an engineer working in the semiconductor industry. I knew it would improve a lot. Just needed 3 or 4 generations to work out the bugs.
BRO... THINKING OF GETTING THE MOZA R5 BUNDLE WHEN META QUEST 3 COMES OUT FOR PC... what do you reckon???
It's a good deal or look at the new deal from Fanatec which should have more options to upgrade with their ecosystem at a later time.
@@thecasualracinggamer yeah, wanted the fanatec but they don't sell to New Zealand mate, annoying...
That stinks
Love 3d movies watching at home 🤘🏻
Think UA-cam removed it for advertising.
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VR COVER no gaps
10:30 looool yes it’s happened
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That was £530 wasted, it’ll sit collecting dust next to my original VR headset. If they changed the racing view then I’d definitely use it again.
Are you talking about the lock to horizon view?
What is it that you want changed with the racing view?
I’ve always struggled with the cockpit view and always use the bumper cam. I still practice cockpit view but just can’t set a decent time that way
@@quim-ninja-6919 It's VR, why would you use any other view then cockpit view.
I didn’t think of that before I rushed out and bought it. I only play Gran Turismo and Snooker on the PS5 so it’s a shame it’s not getting used much now. It’s still fun to mess about with though.
If only not that blurry view it produces..id be using that thing 6h a day..
The sweet spot is really small. While it's not the sharpest, clearest headset out there, if you just get it to stay in the sweet spot it definitely looks good enough.
@@thecasualracinggamer yeah, i get pain on the forhead after about an hour 🤣 nose kinda fixed.. I thibk they chnaged the eye alignment somehow, so dont need to adjust them lenses so close to your nose.. sweat to isnt good.. 🤭🤭