HOW TO PREGERMINATE GRASS SEED for a FASTER LAWN
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- Опубліковано 3 жов 2024
- This video shows how to speed up planting a new lawn. This will take about 10 days off the time that the seed sits on the soil. This works very well.
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@@JEK not likely
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Worked at a sod farm when young. They used to swear by refrigeration of the seed (at least 3 days) - early generations TTTF and Bluegrass. We also soaked, but only for about 24 maximum and with a liquid fish emulsion. We then drained it well, like a day and mixed 50/50 with very dry mason’s sand as a carrier. We usually got germination in four days AND way better stand through maturity - way quicker field rotation. The elderly owner had been doing that for years and said the refrigerator brought up the humidity
Can you explain the refrigeration process? Was this before or after the pregermination soak?
@@makuakane7787 - days prior, they even had a commercial cooler. The owner claimed the seed coat would soften with the refrigeration and the endosperm was “awakened” going from the cold to the warm - just as if it had overwintered.
The cycle was: several days in the cooler. 24 hours in the fish emulsion. 24 hours draining/drying (slightly). Then mixed with fine, dry sand for application. We broadcast spread, then used his own invention of a spiked roller with no additional weights for lightly inserting into the soil.
@@Manoffire260 awesome info, thanks!
While I believe you/him that refrigeration may help the process, it definitely was not due to humidity. The inside of a fridge is a naturally dry environment. Think of it like a big A/C. Both pull moisture from the air, plus the colder parts of the fridge collect the moisture more easily as they attract the moisture better, leaving the food and, in this case, seeds, drier.
@@applsauce3393 maybe the dry cool seeds woke up and soaked up the water fish bath more quickly.
Would love an update video showing how you are exactly laying these
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I never thought I'd hear The Lawn Rebel say "I follow the rules".
I was so confused when I saw your lawn was green again, and then it cut to a future point in time where you started nuking it.
I'm so excited to see the results.
I did this with my Everest KBG reno this year and I got germination in 5 days. I put the seed down on August 13, today is the 24th and the grass is 3/4 to 1" long in some areas and great germination too. Great video Coonor!
Thanks Connor & United Seeds on the coupon code collaboration! We appreciate you! 😃
Glad that it worked and that you got a deal
I wish this video came out 2 weeks ago, I bought my seed and started pregerminating it already. First time, just went for it…we’ll see how it goes🤘🏼
SAFETY FIRST. Glad you were donning the high vis vest while working the pre-germ project
Anytime I sniff a risk, I see safety as priority #1
@@lawnrebel what happened to Safety Third?
safety last
Safety first, panic second
You never know when a side by side crosses the line and can't see pedestrians.
Make seeds wet helps the germ faster, this is pretty awesome man. I do it for gardening never seen it on this scale but awesome man. Also the water change helps stop fungi growth which isn't good. Love your videos, me and my daughter watch when they drop. Love the content much love.
After 3 years of lawn care videos i am still learning tricks of the trade, thank you for that ! One benefit of getting Covid is I overseeded and spot seeded with elite tall fescue and am able to water 3-4 x for the past 5 days. This is a great tip for me when I go back to work full time and have to seed next year it will speed germination and baby sitting.
just did this with some of my Barenbrug RPR. 5 days of soaking and then mixed it with Milo to dry it out. Put some in the yard on bare spots and put some in trays for growing plugs. Did not seem to do anything. Just now starting to sprout about 13 days out. Normally 7 or so without soaking. Until this moring I thought I might have drowned it. LOL Round 2 I did a pound of KBG Midnight and mixed it with bagged topsoil. Just started that yesterday. Got another pound of RPR that I am just going to keep wet for a few days and then mix with topsoil. Just testing things out before I areate and reseed in the middle of Sept. Love your videos.
thank you!! i don't have nearly the size of yard you are dealing with - but i did soak my seeds for 5 days - I will plant on Saturday... thanks againg!!!
Lawn will be popping in no time. You're off to a good start.
Holy Seed!
I watched your video 2 weeks ago and you talked about going to get the paint screens.
You didn't say much other than the video audio got messed up.
I had planned to hit my Target with the soil temperature in my area, and used expensive seed I bought online and said fock it. I am exactly 1 week in and seeing grown seedlings. Wish I would have known about the every 12 hours I did 24. Love the channel and can't wait for this Kentucky Bluegrass to meture in the spring!
I had thought I messed everything up, but I want to mow so bad now but it actually worked.
I did a 24 hour wash of seeds*
You can reduce the throw of your MP 3000s by 20% if you screw down the top adjustment screw - Love the channel Connor 🤙🏼
I drive by jacklin seed almost weekly! 👍🏻
It does work. Ive been in the turf business 20 plus years got a degree from umass in turf management microbiology. Been maintaining pga championship golf course turf. Built many golf courses. We hydrate seed certain areas of tree lines. Hard panned areas. Changing water is clutch. I use diatenacious earth products to move the seed. Love one of your shirts hats
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Good stuff! Did this a few years back with great results!
It does work.
love seeing the process, thank you sir. I put my seed down yesterday high persentage KBG wish i pregerminated. oh well. also got 2 inches of rain last night I hope it wasn't to much. cheers mate from Ontario
I first saw this similar method used by one of The Lawn Tools. Then several others started doing it in similar ways.
"i ran over my phone by accident with rick-the-roller" OMG i just about spit out my coffee :D
yeah ran it right over. it was on the paver parking area and the roller ran right over it. Cracked it done. It was toast.
Just did this with some cheap Pennington KBG. Soaked for 5 days, mixed with Milorganite, spread it out and 7 days later I got peach fuzz action!!! Omg this saved me at least 2 weeks of watering 3-5x day. This was a full renovation so my wife is starting to ask how long will the front yard look like arse. Couple more weeks then add more steroids to the lawn.
I did pre germination using milorganite this spring. I won’t plant KBG without it anymore. It’s so effective. I soaked for 5 days and had sprouts in about 3 more after spreading.
Nice lawn hack, this can cut down on the watering and establishment time. Appreciate all your videos you are the best.
Connors my bluegrass hero
I’ve been watching your channel for a couple of years now and you got me striping my lawn and I love it. I’d like to see more videos on what your doing with your renovation and I hope it works out this time.
Bill from Preston in the UK
Thank you Bill.
I'm going to try this for my patch work in my small renovation area from last Fall. Weeds have been terrible in certain areas of my lawn due to drought and heat. I went cheap this year and didn't water all Summer, except for the renovation.
Thanks Connor, it just worked for me today, Bermuda in 5.5 days instead of 12, only difference is I only kept them submerged for the first 24 hrs only then I dipped them in fresh water every 24 hrs letting them drip dry, pre-germinated for a week, I must water 5 times a day in this 100+ heat/sun but I saved a week of watering
It's almost spring! Time for some Connar Ward!!! OH YEAAAAAA
Thanks for the video learn alot from all you lawn guys in UA-cam , am trying this to fill in some spots that haven’t came in or got wash away with the storm last week. But I had germination on sis grass in 3days and 5days on kbg/prg mix, with carbon pro g,hydrotain, scotts seed starter,RGS,Humic12,Air8 and peat moss covering. Kbg/prg 10k sqf is 85% full and PRG 6k sqf is 95% after 10 days today.
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exactly.. dont kid yourself
Video couldn’t have came at a better time. Just top dressed my back lawn with sand (per your videos) and need to overseed a few bare spots that were depressed after installing pop up down spout drains before my initial seeding last fall. Good stuff. Love the PPE.
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@@vashon100 😂😂😂 dagger in the back
First time viewer. 👋
Thank you for your honesty, really digging your sense of humor!🤣
Trying to fix my yard at new house.
Like you, don’t have loads of time.
So, going to give this a try.
Last week I put my begtrass seed in water - never changed the water - no paint strainer bag - let it sit for 7 days and most of it not only germinated but grew long roots and about 1 inch of grass - I then pushed the roots into my bare spots - I will keep you posted to let you know if it lives and grows
Any update?
Nice work pal.
Best seed I've ever used.
Nice hair cut, Connor, man really!
It will work I can't wait to see how it comes out thanks again brother always a great show
Best lawn how 2 videos ever
I used 2 bags of topsoil and threw it with a shovel for overseeding, and more carefully put it down on the bare spots. My front yard is around 1500 sq ft. I soaked 7 lbs of tall fescue for 3 days after dethatching. Today is day 6 and nothing yet, but it is early still.
Wow, it's really coming along already. Can't wait to see how well the pre-germ did.
You are doing a great job!! That is a lot of work!
Next year it will really be shining again
Hi Connor, since 2 years i am a fan of your lawn video's! Nice work! Greetings from Belgium!
I’m glad you Ricked the Roller
You are awesome , thanks for doing these vids. If you remember me I was the looky loo in a silver minivan that stopped and talked to you when you were trenching, must have been tough work but I appreciate you sharing all this great info
It looks like you'll be receiving a 100K plaque soon!
The constant cold water replacement will shock the seed. We had seed sprouting after 5 days of a soak. 5 gallon buckets, aquarium pump, 1 hose per bucket. Water never replaced.
Circulating the water from bucket to bucket? And what is the reason for changing the water exactly?
Mold, algae or any other waterborne nasties
I had that gut feel about cold water so having been using warm water instead. I'm sure more prone to fungus that way but that's why you change it I guess.
The water supposedly get toxic so it needs fresh water. Apparently there's anti growth inhibitors released as a byproduct of the fermentation process during germination. I've never tested this theory out but it kind makes sense? Water normally sinks into the soil and is replaced by fresh water?
@@peterobara3040 I also think warm water and heat helps to germinate seeds.
Working you ass off, never heard of pre-germinating this way. I saw a video where someone fills a wheelbarrow with dirt and mixes in seeds, and sprays it every day for a week then spreads it on the grass to get faster germination. Loved seeing this though, seems there's always many different ways to do you lawn :D
I came accross this pregermination technique early summer. The Milorganite site outlines the process. What I found was the 'soak' times given were Woefully short. They state 5 days for KBG. After 2trial sessions I ended up soaking the KBG 12 days. It sprouted 2 days after placement. Full seed germination within 5. This was in mid summer heat in the northeast. Tall fescue was recommended at 3 to 4 days. I ended up soaking for 8 days. Again the seed popped in 2 with full seed germination 3 to 4 days after that. Overall great results for mid summer.
I have 1 more round of seeding starting tomorrow. I have almost 25 pounds thats been soaking for 8 days... its a spreading tall fescue. With cooler temps I'm hoping for great results
I am soaking my TTTF seeds right now. Today is Day 4. You said you soaked TTTF for 12 days and the seeds popped in 2 (Day 14?) and germinated fully in 3-4 days after that. I am wondering: 1) when/how did you know to stop soaking? 2) what did you do to seeds after you stop soaking? Thanks a lot!
@shanghongdong5917 Good question. I've pregerminate numerous times. That's the longest soaking and at that point I just put it down. I never saw the seed crack that they talk about, but at 12 days I didn't want to wait any longer. I could blame bad eye sight but.... just keep an eye on it and go a minimum 5 to 7 days.... if it doesn't crack .. go longer
I pre-germinated kbg earlier this year in a wheelbarrow. Filled it up with seed, water, peat moss, and topsoil. Mixed it up good, put a tarp over the top, and left it for a week. Spread it out over the lawn where needed, and It came in great. It was so nice cutting a big portion of that early establishment period out!
I know that wheelbarrow approach couldn't be done for a full lawn, but for some overseeding I needed in dead patches, it worked great.
I think this works better than the water soak from my experience, as long as small area. I had some fungus growing on the soil after couple days but maybe there was a little too much water.
Actually maybe combining the two methods could work best; soak for about 3 days to soften husk and get rid of toxins, then put them in soil/peat moss until they start sprouting.
I saw a picture of someone spreading peat moss with a shopping cart since wholes about right size; will try my kid's toy one next time for spreading the seed/soil/peat mixture.
@@peterobara3040 If I had to guess, it may be the topsoil containing fungi well before you mixed it that simply "awakened" when enough moisture and temperatures were present. That's pretty typical for topsoil of any kind in my experience.
There was another UA-cam video. Soak the grass seeds in a 5 gallon bucket. 12 hours soak remove from bucket let it air dry for 12 hours. And soak again for 12 hours repeat the cycle for 5 days.
I’ll tell you what is “Crazy talk”…happens around 2:22 🤣 Seriously, great content Connor. I prgerminated Everest KBG in the spring. Had some bare spots. Could have been any of the following. The cooler spring in New England this year. Changed the water about every 24 hours. 12 when I could. And loaded up too much grass seed in a bag. What did germinate did so about 7 days after seeding. 👍 Making adjustments for the fall seeding. Thanks again! PS - Love the PPE but you should have worn protective glasses while drying out your seeds 🤣
"I don't make the rules. I only follow them." Haha.
Reminds me of one of my favorite videos of his from a few years ago when he is talking about scalping a section of the lawn in the back yard. "GREEN, YELLOW, TALL" and the classic Connor, "I probably shouldn't do that again but the likelihood of me doing that again is very high." and "I like to do what I do, and that's why I do it."
Edit: Had to go back and watch it again ua-cam.com/video/wMzRc-8AdT8/v-deo.html
Everest is good stuff. I have TTTF and it mixes exceptionally well. I was looking to overseed this year and wanted to try this process with my kbg. Thanks Connor!
ah! I didn't even think of granular humic acid for this purpose!
majority of people on youtube use Malorganite to spread wet seeds.
Thank you for uploading this video!
Love your videos.
When I want to kill plant life I use Industrial or Cleaning strength vinegar and Round Up.
Works excellent.
You need to make “certified KBG grass seed” t-shirts! I would rock that so hard at Home Depot and Lowes.
Thanks for your advice I’m going to try this
Thanks heaps Stephen from Melbourne Australia great stuff
🎯Yeah I learned not to leave the phone on the ground👍 you only need to do it for one day seed can only hold so much water and then it will just start to rot.
keep up the good work.. i got to all to come imminently!
I didn't pre-germinate yet but I put my seed down on 8/13 and got germination this weekend. I was giddy going out front this morning and being able to see green across the lawn. I can't wait to see how this KBG comes in. I might try pre-germinating the extra seed I have to fill in thin/bare spots in a couple weeks.
All that hard pays off. Totally appreciate your
videos! Wishing you all the best!
I had some old seed that I threw down in the spring but it never came up(and re seeded with a newer batch) so I decided to try soaking the old seed now to see if I could get any germination out of it this fall - however I only changed the water about three times, and *yes YOU MUST CHANGE THE WATER OFTEN!* as my seed got nasty and smelled horrible: kinda like sour milk and burnt plastic toxic in brown poop water - but I dried it a bit on a towel and mixed it with some organic fert and put it out anyway, might still not do anything
Stack each wet/water/bucket on to the top of each other, and weight the top bucket - this is working in parallel. Toxic water thing, yes, abide by that; this effort is worthwhile for warm-season grass; also, not sure it should be submerged for the whole time; 12-hour rule, yes! ... is it too complicated - versus watering the seed on the prepared soil surface .... I have to agree, that is the question; in Arizona, the answer is clear; but here in the SE, water is not a problem; spreading it, yep, that is complicated; the humic acid granule mixer is a good idea; the seed should not sprout, else you break the first-root off of it(!) ... so many issues, yes.
hurray, new vid. i love to watch ur stuff, connor!
Heck yeah!!! Love your content and the amazing results your getting. Keep it rolling brother!!!!
Hey Pal it's looking good.
Soon we will see the new lawn.
Bro, excellent content haha. If nothing else, it's fun to watch and see what happens in your lawn. I'm in NC and it's really hard to plant KBG for me, but if I could I would def try this out to make it faster! Love my Lawn Rebel shirt as well! Need to get on here and watch you more often than I do. Good luck this season sir!
I find something useful in every single video you put out Connor. Thanks for the content!
Beautiful horizon!
Safety first with that vest good call
Looking forward to seeing your new lawn mate!
Another guy said you're supposed to soak the seed, then drain it (in other words, not let it soak for hours and hours). Would you agree with that or do you still feel soaking it for 10+ days and changing out the water every 12 hours is the right way to go?
Looking awesome! Good work as always
Good ol' Kentucky Bluegrass!
Great stuff! I’m going to try this very soon
Was the paint strainer even necessary or could you just do it in a large bin and open up a drain to with a screen overing the outlet of the drain to let the water out?
I was just trying to think of a better way for a larger volume of grass seed with a large bin. Maybe just toss the 50 lb bag into the bin and flood the bin. Repeat each time. Or multiple paint strainer bags into 1 bin.
It seems like I just need something to let the water out, keep the seed below waterline, and not remain too damp and air out between cycles.
Then mix seed with compost and spread with compost spreader. Broadcast or dropseeder if possible.
Thank you for the idea
Next try doing some magnetic seed exposure. You can use a 2x2x2 or larger N50 magnet and expose the seeds on the edge of the South pole. Do not use on the side of the magnet and unless you want your seed to go bad do not expose it to the North of the magnet or you will get lower germination rates and unhealthy plants. You need to expose the seed for a few hours. You can try with alfalfa seeds first and you will see and taste the difference.
getting your daily exercise in with seed swings. keeps the shoulders loose
LOL... or torn.
I was expecting you to just friggin yeet that bag of seed at the very end. 😂
Pretty sure I've seen individuals use a peat moss roller as well... mix the seed with the pest moss, and it'll give it some material to attract to when germinating too
Seeded...2 days after - heavy, heavy rain. It's a flat area, wash away? If so, to where?
After seeing what you do, I'm thinking all that rain water would help.
Keep up the good work!
Great video never knew this was possible
Connor, you are awesome🤙
Another great video!!
Thanks for the video.
Do you have a video or short on the spreading of the Seed and Humic Mix?
Hey, thanks for your videos!
Can sand be used to make seed dry for spreading?
Nice work Connor! The lawn is poppin' already, just like your rotator cuff is going to be doing due to slinging water out of the paint strainers :D
That's what someone else said
did you think about taking those bags of seeds and putting them in your washing machine and putting it on spin cycle only to help get the water out?
Any questions about grass seed pregerm should refer to barley malting videos. It is exactly the same in the initial steps
That's good to know
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I’ve been wanting to try this for some time now. How much humic did you use to spread the grass seed?
How did it go pre germinating this seed for so long? Also did you leave it soaking? I let mine soak for the first 24 hours and then let it sit in fresh water for 30 minutes every 12 hours.
Definitely trying this, this season lol why not
yes do it. it works well. change water is key
@@lawnrebel yes I’ll make sure to do that! Also need clean buckets lol
The last time I tried pre germinate I changed the water every 24 hours. Wonder if there is any benefit to doing it every 12.
I pre-germinated for a small fix last year and felt I could skip changing the water. Came back only 3-4 days later and it smelled like the foulest sewage ever. Some of the seed worked, some didn’t. Thankfully it was only 5 lbs of seed.
You can pretreat any seed, normally it’s with a seaweed treatment or a something similar but it becomes a nightmare to sow. I’ve mixed it with soil, ended up with a sloppy mess. Looks good now though, hoping for a quick tour of how it looking now
Mix with milo, easy peasy!
I'm fresh out of "African Bricks?"
Guess I'll have to use the old standard American brick. Hope it works