BMW E70 X5 4.8i 0-100KMH 0-62MPH: Is the N62 SUV Much Better?
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- Опубліковано 20 лют 2021
- BMW E70 X5 4.8i 0-100KMH 0-62MPH: Is the N62 SUV Much Better?
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My 2007 4.8 sport edition 200,000 klms completely stock is doing 7.1 to 7.5 to 100 depending on outside temperature in South Australia no humidity . Keep up the great work
Pretty decent times. How are you timing it?
Black nugget ,,sounds good,,,keep the vids coming guys👍
The sweet spot is the 2004-2006 4.8is!! It has the newer engine and transmission but still has the lighter weight of the first-gen design. Also, the factory specs are 360 hp 360 lbs-ft so a slight upgrade.
still a good buy in 2022? lol
@@elcolin_ no
Very nice sound guys. As you guys are turbo addicted , you have to go for the e70 twin turbo😎. Dutch regards, Nico
Nice to see a father and son UA-cam channel.
Have a look at an E70 X5 40d, perfect for towing or an M50d but those are still quite expensive.
E70 inside interior an improvement for sure but the e53 in its own right a special car, defo keep for me, had mine for many many year, just can’t let her go, still the ride for the weekends👍
Totally agree
That sure sounds good.
my gl 500 from 2007 does 0-100 in 6,3 secs and it is like 200kg heavier. I wish you guys can review it, it is such an underrated car
I own the E53 4.4i and I love mine.. I love how it feels going up or down the Clyde Mt (Fairly steep set of mountains that lead to Batemans Bay NSW) and yes I know its a problematic vehicle but mine hasn't given me much problems so far (Touch Wood) .. I am planning on doing a muffler delete or putting a set of shutoff pipes later on.
To this I have driven that version of the X5 and find it a bit spongey for my tastes.. So my answer would be to keep your 4.6is for a couple of more years until the newer versions become slightly more affordable.
hmmmmm i think you are on the money. If you are new to the channel i actually had a 2004 4.4l e53 with the N62 and i bloody loved that car. It wasnt as nice as the is we currently have, but i genuinely miss my old one. ua-cam.com/video/JMyTPSlLOH8/v-deo.html
@@ZeroTo60Tube As always boys.. "I LOVE your work" .. keep kicking those goals and it wont be long until you're both famous or at least Infamous...
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Had a m62 4.4 e53 I loved the car until I lost the title LOL
Keep the 4.6is special car !
Would be good if you put it on a dyno to check the bhp being produced.
Before you ditch the 4.6is check the production number to see if it will be a valuable investment worth holding on to...they are becoming rare and valuations are on the rise as they become harder to get, not to mention they are the most collectable of the e53 range...in saying that, the feature car would be a perfect tow vehicle, but wasting your money if you performance enhance. There's just too many around to justify the investment.
Nice one boys, I have been looking at one of these ...
Sounds really beasty, did you retain the 2 front resonators and done the rear muffler delete only?
I had an F15 50i, I actually got the 2 front resonators removed and left the rear muffler, that gave it a great note, not as beasty as this.
The guys at the dealer even commented on it (I had a service package with it when I got it)
Great work Guys, love the show.
Thanks for the kind words. Yes this is only a rear mufffler delete. MIght need to look at doing the resonators on our 4.6l to get a balance.
@@ZeroTo60Tube The F15 has the N63 4.4L Twin Turbo, gave it a nice note not too loud, it wouldn't sound as good as the NA, try the resonators on the 4.6i it should sound better for sure
You should get a e70 35d!
The 4.6 is rare. There are plenty of things to do to the 4.6 to get a bit more hp. One cheap mod that is more of a driving mod is an n62 4.8l throttle body. Direct bolt on, just need and adapter harness or wire in a new plug. No programing or any thing.
I have this exact car, what’s a good exhaust for this car?
That is one thing I miss about my last x5 e70 4.8 which was also straight piped. I really miss the loud deep sound! I did however get a lot of drone on the highway and did find that rather annoying especially with passengers, trying to talk etc. the e70 x5m exhaust just doesn’t sound anywhere near as good free revving
Maybe the downpipes and redesigning the rear muffler again might improve it
You need downpipes!!!
If you get an E70 you will always have something to share on the channel 🤣
I have an E70 35d as I didn’t want to have the V8 problems 😇
Man, sounds like an AMG with the muffler delete. Do it to the E53!!!
Hey everyone. Has anyone lowered there e70 4.8 v8 and what wheels did you use
I think you're missing two key options: 1 is HUD and 2 is Active Steering
Cet it tuned, nothing too radial stage 1 or so and see how it goes then
Keep the IS, special and looks better!
Awesome video. What kind of painting you going for 4.6is, any tips? Bring in e53 4.8is in your next review, cheers!
I'd say keep the 4.6IS guys, unless you getting hold of the X5M. Maybe some mild performance mods?
e70 x5m is the dream car definitely. We would love to keep the 4.6is just as a collector item too. But doesn't really make sense financially. We'll see what happens. The general consensus is keep the 4.6is over a e70 anyway.
@@ZeroTo60Tube 540i swap and flog it off!
I have heard to stay away from all V8's for the early 2000 to current, due to valve seal, timing chain guides, possibly rod bearings and over heating. You guys never mention those issues or see to have any concerns about them either? Just curious, maybe some youtubers have got it wrong.
So generally the M series engines have issues with timing chain guides. We currently have 3 of those here (m62b44, m62b44tu and m62b46tu) none of which have shown any signs of problems (yet). The n series of V8s have valve stem sealing issues. Absolutely nightmare of a job to do on a v8. I would expect to see some smoke coming out of the exhaust around this milage (200,000ks) on most N series engines. Personally a little bit of smoke after you have been idling is no biggie. But it can get bad, using a decent oil on them works wonders. Not too thin. As for rod bearings that seems to be the S series of engines which suffer from that. We currently have a S62 and S85 here and rod bearings are a concern, we have done the s62 and plan to do the S85 soon. however its not a crazy job. DIY should get them done under the $1000 mark.
I honestly feel like a lot of common problems people make a big deal about on the BMW engines are non issues. People hype the problems up to either scare people and charge a lot to fix them or because they simply don't understand what they're talking about.
I would be keeping the e53!
idk what what you looking at but the 09 n62 has a extra sport button for the trans he didn’t even touch it i run 108 octane and still in low 6’s
I have an 09 4.8 and there is NOT and extra sport button for the trans! 😂
There is another sport button for the active suspension and doesn’t not affect engine performance whatsoever.
Keep the 4.6iS as it's iconic!
There is something wrong with the way you are doing this , I got 7 seconds 0-100kmh.
I only care how cool and beautiful it looks.
Keep the iS guys!
I think you need something with a snail on your next E70, like M57 or N63.
So many people keep saying the N63 is just a terrible engine and it makes me want one even more.
It is a question of enthusiasm. In my eyes the 4.6is has more spirit and in general I dislike all bmw engines that came after 2003 on the market...I think the mainflaw of the 4.6 is the timing chain and gearbox. The 4.8is has better parts on that point of view,but got a big problem with the waterlining in the middle of the engine and the valvetronic can be a really expensive thing when it damages the valvecam. On the other hand the design of the e53 is like an e46 with an e39 in big and I love it. I'd not sell the 4.6is for the much more ugly e70. If it is about the gearbox, there are options on the market with a zf8hp70 from the 550ixdrive....which should mate to the m62 bellhouse very well. Gearboxcontroller via htg gcu...the only real hard question for me would be an e53 4.6is vs an e53 4.8is. That my point of view and honest opinion.
Quickly squeezing in the episode before my night shift 👍🏻
Guessing an 8.2 by the way
Good guess John!
I’m pretty sure that’s more than a muffler delete mine has a muffler delete and its not that raspy
Haha I was hoping you’d actually do the 0-60 run in it, Adrian said you were just doing the head unit install when we dropped it off 🤣👌
Couldn't help ourselves haha
Good to see the stats. Do you truly think the red x5 would tow better? Contemplating buying it off him for a tow car that’s all
I would have said the e70 would, but the e53 is slightly faster so i dont know. That said, having the extra gear will help with highway towing... possibly. And the e70 is definitely more comfortable than the red x5is. Its very rigid for a SUV whereas the e70 is more like an SUV haha
@@keinanmoloney7414 I actually think the e70 would tow better, but its hard to tell with out putting the same load on them. Regardless the e53 does tow pretty damn well, will sit on 120-130 no worries with a car on the back for 10 hours straight.......
@@ZeroTo60Tube thanks for the knowledgeable reply! Awesome content too 👌
Well, I did it! I pulled the trigger and got myself BMW X5 4.8is.
@J BAL Been fantastic! Proven itself to be quite reliable and surprisingly not as expensive to maintain as I thought or what others have said. Fuel consumption wise is quite thirsty in city driving but on the highway copes much better. I always look forward to driving it and I get excited about the part where I bring the V8 to life with the turn of the key. Rides a bit firm but you will get used to it.
On the practical side of things, this car can be a track weapon and off the track be a good family cars. I own a shop and this car is also used to haul stocks. It is just so easy to live with. It is a good all-rounder. Definitely recommend it
@@Arden688 what the mileage on yours? Looking at getting the same car at 160,000. Was really bothered about the money pit comments but your feedback is encouraging. Thanks
@@c.nnweje5679 Hi. Mileage at the moment 202,xxx km or about 126,000 miles.
I was also bothered at first about what people said about the N62 engine and how it can potentially be a money bit. I started reading FCP Euro about maintenance and followed it. I changed the oil every 5000 miles knowing it can prevent a lot of unnecessary problems down the road. Use a good quality oil, I use Liqui Moly and I protect the engine with Liqui Moly Ceratec.
@@Arden688 why its a slow pos
I am surprised. This is as fast (or slow for that matter) as my E39 Touring 525i manual was, despite having almost twice the displacement 😳
Starting to wonder how much our hot weather really plays with these cars. Every stock car we test is so much slower than claimed times.
@@ZeroTo60Tube I am sure that has a big impact. Maybe that's an idea for a future video? Logging timing, maf and fuel compared to a similar viewer's car from a colder climate... I am in the process of rebuilding my N63, so can't provide any data at the moment...
With 203000 kms on the clock, that time is expected, I don’t think the vanos is working properly 😜
4.6, all day, on everything but exhaust note.
The N62 V8 is a much better designed engine then the M62 V8 because the M62 had problems with the water cooled alternator and the U shaped timing chain guide that ends up breaking overtime. As for the N62 V8 engines a normal alternator and the timing chain guides much different designed. The only biggest common problems you had to deal with on N62 V8s are one the coolant transfer pipe, two the valve stem seals along with the 2 crank case vent valves, and three the alternator oil bracket. If these engines maintained properly which is keeping clean oil and coolant in them religiously I have seen them get almost 300,000 miles. This had to be the best V8 engine BMW ever made unlike the S62 V8 engines that had seriously weak rod bearings in them.
You could not be more wrong. The M62 engine is way better designed and way more robust. The timing issue on the M62 I would not call it a real issue because you can not expect for a plastic guide to last 20+years, it is a service item after all. Most of the M62 powered cars are 20 years+ old and even some of them are still running the original chain and guides. The water cooled alternator is again a very robust which is just harder to service and still last 15+years on most cars. As for the N62 you have again timing chain issues, valve tronic issues both with the solenoids and the eccentric shafts, oil consumption due to bad valve seals, gaskets prone to leak and finally prematurely worn out conrod bearings and main bearings which are seen again on many cars, something which is pretty much unheard on the M62. In addition the cars with the N series engines are 10+ years newer and suffer from those issues and are widely spread. The m62 engine is also an V8 engine which is widely swapped in all kind of BMWs and other cars because is relatively easy to work on and reliable something which can not be said about the N series. And last, the weak rod bearings which you mention are on the S65 and S85 the V10 m5 and V8 m3 which engines are based on the N series so stop spreading false information. Yes the S62 again also needed to rod bearings replaced but again way less common and very few cars got spun bearings compared to the newer M5 and M3 which are know for failing rods bearings before even 100k km on some cars, compared to many old e39 M5s with 200k kms and more with the original bearings.
@@stefantorozov7508you are 100% wrong on most counts, the n62 is night and day a better engine with better reliability. Absolutely and most definitely the best v8 BMW has made.
Is the infotainment screen upgraded
Yes
Wish it was a 4.8is hahaha maybe soon zero to 60?
Is the steering quiet heavy?
Its not heavy, but not as light as newer cars.
Keep the 4.6IS. Shes a collectors item.
You are right!
Pretty sure you can get a 4.4 Twin turbo which is not the X5M but the XDrive50i in the e70
That’s the f15
@@KurumaDesigns you can get the N63 in the e70, which is a 4.4 twin turbo v8, from 2011 to 13. There's a few on car sales, but they have cooling issues and use up tonnes of oil according to reviews.The X5M has the S63
LucioLibre you are spot on. The LCI e70 did come with the V8 twin turbo. Would love to have a close look at one of them.
@@danmurphy5889 interesting, I have never seen one before other then the x5m haha
The iS with the M5 dash. C'mon. It's special. Nothing special about the e70, except a 4.8. X5m a different story. But so is the price. Stick with the special one !
You're right dude! 100%
The market is flooded with E70's. Are they a good buy at the moment given they are between 8 to 14 years old, or are they a money pit?
My 2007 X5 have 346000km strong car
The engine has problems,probably neglected over time.
Under 300hp for the time it got that's a big loss.
I would try a launch without stalling it up, see what it does then
Have tried it on other ZF5 and ZF6 cars and its normally 1 - 2 seconds slower. The way this leaves the line really helps with its time, believe it or not.
@@ZeroTo60Tube interesting, I have an Rover 75 daily driver with a ZF5 and that gets a better time when I just mash the gas without stalling it up, might be because it’s fwd and usually spins a little when stalled up 😅
This engine is about same with the e53 4.8is
I own this exact suv and it's fast as hell. Idk what launch they use but it's not correct. For example it's faster than my jaguar xk8 and my Camaro with a Corvette LS1 engine swap.
Let of the brake and floor it. It goes straight to 5k rpm and pulls. These guys were at 2/3k it didn't sound right at all. It's AWD and has huge tires, mine breaks traction on them for a second when shifting two second gear. So no 100% sure the launch was done incorrectly.
would you recommend this car for a first car mate , i’m looking at a 2009 4.8 v8 X5 and i want to hear what someone who owns one has to say about them reliability wise , the seller has a 1 year warranty for the car. I personally feel it’s a beast of a car i just wanna hear what their like long term
@@luhgeeky1266 I’ve had a 2009 e70 4.8i for almost four years… had the valve stem seal issue (smoke after idle) which caused a good amount of oil consumption but never affected performance or reliability.
I had the valve stem seals replaced fairly inexpensively from someone who does a lot of them and know what they are doing.
After that oil consumption decreased dramatically and reliability has been great the entire time I’ve owned it.
Put over 6000 miles in one week driving coast to coast and back with absolutely zero issues.
Only thing is they eat up tires!
"back to the studio"
LOL, we will have to use that in a video soon!! hahah
Why not test it with the traction control completely off?
We it never spun the wheels at all and sometimes find the shifts on the zf6 flare a bit more when TC is fully off. Probably didnt make any difference being in DTC either tbh. You aint gonna spin up these huge tyres at this power level.
Please what kind of android screen did you install on yours?
Xtrons went in my x5
@@ZeroTo60Tube thanks
4.6is or 4.8is???
2006 e53 4.8is and she looks tons better and has a n62
This has to be bs....... our 2011 bmw x5 xdrive35i does 0-100 kph in 6 seconds........ this car can surely do sub 5 seconds
bahaa noo
That’s a pretty horrific 0-100 time. Territory turbo with a tune can whack 0-100 in under 5 seconds
Don't get an N62 unless you want to do a video on valve seals.
Not that bad of a job unless you are a complete moron with two left hands. After your done you have a perfect engine that’s good for many more miles.
Keep the 4.6is. It is a classic and the color is fantastic. Plus the nose of the e70 looks like a car with obese
😂
:P hahaha
Muffler delete probably killed torque on this car.
Something is wrong with that car, maybe the muffler delete made the ecu reduce timing it’s slipping auto up top? it’s just too far off the times I’ve seen on other videos and I was really close to buying one of these , now I’m rethinking as that time is in line with any VW v10 and v8 tauereauuaueags
I haven’t seen any other draggy vids. Got some links?
@@ZeroTo60Tube I will find one, but most are just obsessed with the noise and rightfully so but yeah Even the cayennes are faster claimed...I need to get to the bottom of this here’s one acceleration starts at around 4secs and hits 60 in 6-7secs ua-cam.com/video/EoeWp8UhnDU/v-deo.html
Where is the imolared e46???
Our old man is driving it currently. Had some weird steering issues which he thinks is now fixed. Its also rocking some new black wheels.
Your “launch” starts are causing your crap times guys!
Someone who hates driving, gave the video a thumbs down, 🤦♂️
If it wasn't by mistake, A Dacia Sandero must be very exciting to them 🤣
hahaha it must have been james may hitting the dislike.
You didn’t brake boost !!!!
I'm guessing low 7s, will reply with my reaction.....
Hmmm, mid 8s is a bit of a disappointment.
Never sell the 4.6 iS :)
surely you 2 are brothers?
We are! Dont tell anyone tho. haha
E53>E70😏
IT WOULD HAVE MADE A LOT MORE SENSE HAD YOU NOT TALKED ABOUT 20 DIFFERENT CARS AND JUST FOCUSED ON THIS ONE I GOT SICK OF IT AND GAVE UP
hehe, sorry you couldn't keep up. Might want to change your name to notveryflexiblemathew.... jokes. Thanks for commenting anyway dude. Appreciate it. Have a great weekend.
@@ZeroTo60Tube YOU'VE GOT A LOT TO LEARN ABOUT PRODUCING A VIDEO AND BECAUSE OF YOUR REPLY NOW WE ALL KNOW THAT YOU'RE A LIBERAL
Lol don’t get offended it’s just a joke mate. Although, all these comments do help the algo so if it means you’ll comment again, you can have as many hissy fits as you want 😀
@@ZeroTo60Tube YOU CAN STEP OFF, I'M NOT GAY..
keep the 4.6is
Used money pit .. so Manny problems and issues blue smoke oil leaks seals etc
If you can get good money for the 4.6 and can end up with a newer better car then yes sell it.
Donkeys for towing ..... m50d ;)
Would love a drive in a M50d one day. Need to twist your arm i guess. Always been fascinated by them.
@@ZeroTo60Tube i'll figure it out with you. I'll bring it up so you can draggy it before i stick it on the rollers.
E53 4.8is....
The 4.6is was a pioneer for the sporty SUV’s we see today, and the Titanium Silver 4.6is in my care has a prime parking spot in the stable... However, I drive a 4.8is almost daily and do believe it’s a significant improvement over the 4.6is. The first subtle change is the steering wheel . The 4.8is wheel is much chunkier than the thin-rimmed 4.6is wheel. Some 4.8is wheels are also heated, which is nice. The other notable changes are the N62 engine, the 4-corner air suspension, the 6-speed transmission, X-Drive AWD, and the panoramic roof. The 4.8is also has larger diameter exhaust pipes from the headers back, making it sound a bit deeper in tone than the 4.6is. With all that said, I’ll admit, the E70 is likely the easier platform to live with today for most people. The E53 4.8is and the E70 4.8i are more similar than many realize, but I much prefer the E53 design language, and the E53 was offered in Imola Red, so yeah... Can go wrong with either. As always, thanks for the awesome videos guys! 🍻
Haa keep the sound of 4.8i and take the speed of 4.6is🤣
Lol yes first to like the vid
LOL these things are slow my 2012 3.0L N55 can do it in 6.8 0-100.
Made in America. Might as well buy a Ford....
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不够快～
This car is broken.