1996 WS Gm2: Maddux throws eight shutout innings
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- Опубліковано 30 чер 2013
- 10/21/96: Braves pitcher Greg Maddux dominates the Yankees in Game 2, throwing eight innings of shutout ball to earn the win
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How the Braves lost this series I'll never know. I was only 12 at the time, but after game two, I would've bet my entire Ninja Turtle collection they were going back to back.
this was the biggest WS collapse in my opinion. The way Atl dominated games 1 and 2, and even game 4, only to lose it is just wow. Even games 3, 5, and 6 were pitching duels that should have favored Atl. Had the Dbacks lost in 2001, that would have been the biggest WS collapse as of today, but they won.
@@hmhm856 How would you rate the latest meltdown up 3-1 NLCS and couldn't win one measly game in three tries?
@@HomeStudioBasics i cant really rate anything in 2020, since its a shortened season, no home field, etc.
@@hmhm856 Every team had to endure the same circumstances, so that's not really valid to me. I'd say this collapse is right up there with the '96 meltdown.
In the 90's, the Braves stole defeat from the jaws of victory so many times, I have many grey hairs thanks to Lemke and Blauser's dang .209 average, bases loaded, clutch double play ground outs to lose 2-1.
Absolutely the best pitcher I ever laid eyes on. I miss watching him pitch.
you look like the reliever pitcher Chris Britton
He's not average.
@@JBatts41 lol I get this reference. Good one
Best control pitcher.....I feel like alot of times when it counted his inability to miss bats as often as his power hitting contemporaries caught up to him. Balls will find holes.....sometimes you have to strike people out.
But he really was just incredible to watch during that crazy run he had.
I agree. Being a Cubs fan, I cry knowing that let this guy walk when they could’ve kept him.
Just totally fooled every one of those hitters with the movement and subtle change of speeds, the best pitcher I ever saw...
This guy made pitching an art form. So beautiful to watch, the best pitcher that I ever saw.
He even fooled Wade Boggs
@@jayvicious2011Is this a reference to him being walked?
Being able to be there to see Maddux, Glavine, Smotlz & Avery pitch will remain some of my best memories. Wohlers too. I can't forget watching my favorite Braves player, Mark Lemke play. One huge memory was being at Baltimore Park at Camden Yards watching Maddux pitch & also seeing Cal Ripkin play. I enjoyed the heck out of that. I wasn't to popular in my Braves wear, especially after the Braves won the game. lol
You could throw the name Kevin Brown in that Atlanta pitching list too.
i saw the braves in camden, a few years after you did from the sound of it. when i went i seem to remember more Braves fans there than Orioles fans
This guy was a true master in every sense of the word. Absolutely brilliant.
Greg Maddux was given a dog as a gift after retirement... He still hasn't walked him.
Maddux showed that you could dominate a game without strike outs. This was total pwnage.
E Drew & without a 90mph fast ball. his averaged 87-88, but he had complete control of it. He'd dominate in the tested era even more than he did in the Roid era
He did end up with over 3,000 strikeouts.
Greg Maddux was a strikeout pitcher.
The dude forced you to swing the bat. Thats one of the things that blew my mind about him. He never walked more than 82 people in a season (which was early on, once he got to Atlanta he would never walk more than 52), walked less than 1k his whole career and had a season where he walked just 20 in 232 innings pitched lol if you didnt swing the bat, he would strike you out, so you had to swing at whatever he gave you. Most of the time it wasnt much lol the ball would just bounce right back into his glove.
And this was the 96 Yankees, Jeter, Williams, Martinez, Fielder, Boggs, Raines.
that tailing fastball inside to lefties was amazing...Yankee slayer all the way
Best pitcher I have ever seen. Obviously, there were guys with better arms like Pedro and Randy and Schilling and even Johan Santana for a while, but no one PITCHED better than Greg Maddux. Dude dominated for 12 years throwing 89 MPH. Like all time dominance. And one of the great misnomers is that somehow he wasn't clutch in the postseason. His 3.27 ERA in October is better than Randy's, better than Pedro's, better than supposed money pitchers like Andy Pettitte. But the Braves gave him 0 or 1 runs in six different starts. Pretty hard to win like that.
Maddux really made his infield work when he pitched.
Lol now that you mention it
And they loved that - kept them in the game/on their toes and gave them some action.
@@FreakishPower also a very efficient method of pitching which kept his pitch counts low and kept him healthy for a long time, and didn't let his opponents rest for long
True, he also won like 18 gold gloves so he did a lot of that himself too
Greatest fielding pitcher ever. He would field anything hit near him.
one of the most dominating w.s. performances. even the ground balls were softly hit. wish the whole game was posted here.
The reason I love Greg Maddux is bc he only threw 89-91 mph, but was still one of the best pitchers of all time bc he was about fooling hitters
He very seldom ever hit 90 in his career. Glavine could occasionally hit 90 though. Smoltz was there 92-95mph starter.
Amazing how many were hit right back to him...
no clean contact. look at the Boggs AB. Totally baffled
Boggs himself one of the greats said Maddux could read your mind. Like he had a crystal ball in his glove.
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@@manemba Thanks for contributing
He's like the Michael Jordan of the pitching mound. Loved watching him pitch.
Amazing how things change. After this game the Yankees dynasty took off. The Jim Leyritz homer changed the series. Also Torre out coached Bobby Cox.
It’s weird how Joe Torre predicted to the boss saying we gonna lose game 2 but win 3 straight in Atlanta and win it in game 6 in the Bronx.
All nine members of the Yankees starting line up that night would appear in an All Star game at some point in their careers. All nine! And he dominated
The Master
I watched him from '96 till he retired. If a Padres game ever came on I'd check to see if he was pitching - I loved him that much.
Here is the summary of Maddux because there is some confusion out there including "he was a fighter who didn't have great stuff but who changed speeds, had good location fielded his position well and was a cerebral pitcher"
All that is true except the part about him not having great stuff - he did have great stuff. Mostly a 87-90 mph fastball whose default movement was a sharp pulling down and in to a righty with default location of down and away to righty. He hit the same location on lefties with them "bailing" on the pitch as Maddux threw it at their belly only to have it drop back over the plate and down.
That was his bread and butter. His other main pitch was an excellent changeup with the same down and away movement as the fastball. Yhis pitch was mostly for lefties. He threw it maybe 15% of the time. You see his 2nd K in this vid was off a breaking ball. Rare, rare rare. I wished he'd wasted lots more pitches in his career with breaking balls. He would have had a lot more strikeouts. Probably 200 in 230 innings.
But he didn't throw balls. 0-2 here comes that same fastball you can't hit.
Back to the fastball. 80-90% of Maddux' pitches are some variation of a fastball. He can make it break many different ways and it is very difficult to hit with any authority. Smoltz described it this way "they look like they're swinging with foam bats when Greg pitches"
From '96 on? You missed his best years... 1988-1995
That was the game the Braves peaked as an organization. We still haven't won a World Series game since. A 30 years of age Greg Maddux calm and killing them with control and changing speeds.
True, haven't even made it to the World Series since 1999 and haven't even gotten to the NLCS since 2001.
@@Murph_gaming The Braves have been absolutely dreadful in the playoffs since the turn of the century. Dreadful.
@@gamble777888 I don't disagree with that.
@@Murph_gaming Finally made the NLCS but blew a 3-1 series lead. Unbelievab... wait actually it's quite believable given their history. After the Reds and Marlins series, I was cautiously optimistic that the curse was over. But alas, it's still stronger than ever. The base running mistake I saw last night will haunt me for the rest of my life.
@@HomeStudioBasics The base running error definitely hurt but there were also players who never really did much in the LCS; Acuna and d'Arnaud are two that come to mind.
My favorite pitcher ever
Hard to believe that this team with such talent barely won only 1 Championship. Still an excellent team and great to watch.
Ground-out after ground-out after ground-out. nobody could hit on this man. He should have had 100% of the votes for Hall of Fame. Him and Randy Johnson are the greatest pitchers ever. I mean, they pitched this amazing stuff when steroids were common place
Clemens Johnson Pedro Maddux.....those are the big 4 of that era.
All of them have great numbers and great careers. I don't think Maddux was quite AS good as those other guys because he didn't miss enough bats. He never walked people, kept it in the yard and induced a ton of grounders....BUT sometimes you have to miss bats bc balls will find holes. That and the fact the other 3 pitched at least part of their careers in the AL....Maddux faced weaker lineups than the other guys entirely in the NL.
@Paul WT Yea hes an alltime great. Of the Big 4 of that time period. I personally would take the other 3 guys first but of course Maddux was a stud.
@@dukedematteo1995 Maddux was better than Pedro in the playoffs, and I believe Randy also. Maddux never got run support. Just look atthe 1997 NLCS for example lol. They collapsed all around him.
Maddux was the best pitcher out of all of them. They where all good but Maddux was the the Greatest pitcher I ever seen. He was a stud watch him pitch
One of the top 10 best pitchers of all time right here.
Top 10? No, top 5!
I really love Maddux.
Perfect mechanics. His body is always heading towards home plate after each pitch. That's the way to do it. That's why he was the best defensive pitcher of his time.
The Best Pitcher ever
Best pitcher ever! Period!!!
He was so good! Best pitcher I ever seen. Dude was the master at pitching.
@ 0:47 Maddux always makes that face.
Greg Maddux pitched a HOF career in the steroid era, craziness.
So did Pedro. He had one of the greatest pitching seasons ever in ‘99 and in ‘00
Albert Mendez We were not talking about Pedro, and the video was not about Pedro. The only one bringing up Pedro is you, why is that I wonder?
chris ledbetter Because in his prime he was better than Maddux.
So, how long is “Prime”.....a year, a month, a game, an inning? In game 7 of the World Series, the Astro’s outscored the Nats in 2 different innings (but remember, the Astro’s lost the game). “Prime” isn’t a very good comparison, “Career” is.
@@albertmendez2262 Randy Johnson was better than both of them. 4 straight seasons of more than 300k's, 4 straight Cy young awards, and 4 straight seasons sub 2.75 Era. Not only did he dominate the regular season him and schilling literally won the diamondbacks the world series that year.
Find me a modern day pitcher who could get through 6 scoreless innings without having a strikeout!! Good luck
Man, that is an incredibly iconic statement...
yeah! Imagine having the ability to make batters look foolish. Only bad pitches dominate offenses via the strikeout!
I still don’t know how the Braves blew this 2-0 lead and going to Atlanta too.
David Barton Game 4. But yeah. I usually don’t say this, but what if God had intervene in this World Series.
Look all the breaks the yankees got.
@@josecarranza7555 The Braves choked. No need to appeal to God.
terminat1 But explain how the umpire got in the way of Derek Jeter’s foul ball and then Jeter got on base.
The master.
You also have to take into account that he was pitching at the height of the steroid era. He was Picasso on the mound.
+ThinTheHerd78 Yeah and he was 6' even, easily under 200 pounds, and had a fastball that barely broke 90.
For these reasons, in my eyes he's the best that I've ever seen.
so was Glavine, both used heavy command, and lower speeds, Smoltz was their fireballer.
1996 wasn't the height of the steroid era. That was the start of it but the height of the steroid era was 1998-2001
He's like the Michael Jordan of the pitching mound. Loved watching him pitch.
Ground balls 4 lyfe
kseries1981 strikeouts are fascists
Absolutely masterclass game for Maddux. ¡Greatest memories!
I think Maddux was the best "pitcher" also, just a freakin doctor with hitters.....Made it look easy.
I watched him almost every start glued to the TV not so much as I was a Braves fan but I knew I was watching a craftsman at the highest level. There has never been or will there ever be anything like Maddux again in baseball. Change speed and have movement and precise control. Very simple mechanics and throwing between starts.
Funny thing is, Smoltz was technically their ace in 1996, that was the year he won the Cy Young after leading the NL in wins.
He has more Gold Gloves than any player in MLB history. I think its 18.
much less competition for gold gloves as a pitcher than as an actual fielder but still, quite the accomplishment to get so many
The Braves had killer pitches and batters in the 90s I still wonder up to this day why they only won one world series.
My dad named me after this guy because he's his favorite baseball player and after watching this I can see why
@David Barton Gregory Maxximus??
@David Barton Maddux
Who would've thought, this would have been the Braves last World Series victory.
Finally won another series, lol
@@JonathanPearceName and so happy am I!
The last WS win for the Braves...gah
The late movement on his pitches is killer, always created a ton of grounders
The Real master i miss him, he took everyball #WTF 💪🏽
He's like the Michael Jordan of the pitching mound. Loved watching him pitch.
His ability only gets more impressive as time goes on... he will go down as arguably one of the top 3 pitchers of all time. In this clip alone, he’s making some of the purest hitters of that era look silly with slow rollers. Beyond impressive control.
No very flashy! Great pitchin'!
welcome to cooperstown greg
The Mad dog one of the greatest competitors in this history of sports a man master of his craft
One of the very best. If he ain't the no 1 pitcher, you can easily say he might be no. 2.
Pitching like that IN Yankee Stadium. Absolutely no fucks given.
Way cooler then the flipside of your pillow or that cucumber in your fridge will ever be.
What a Nasty two seam fast ball!
Pure brilliance.
I'm really impressed with how he got many of these outs- ground outs into the infield- and MANY of them back to him.
That was his game. He really kept in in front of the outfield. Masterful work.
Mis Bravos de Atlanta el mejor equipo amor de mis amores
1:23 "And the first strike out of the night"
wait wut?!
The best pitcher decades 90's
Damn! Took 8 innings before he even broke a sweat...
I'm not sure he even broke a sweat in this game.
Smooth, masterful and a pleasure to watch
now I understand why Maddux won so many gold gloves. Most outs are ground ball and many of them ground directly back to Maddux for assist
Es simplemente increible ,de los mejores pitcher de la historia
El mejor de su epoca
What a tragedy! The Braves won the World Series in 95, and games one and two of the 96 World Series. Then lost their next 8 straight World series games. Breaks my heart. It took me 26 years and a World Series title to be able to even watch these highlights. I’m still not ever it.
Braves fan here...this series is my most painful sport memory...
Master class on location; pitch it where it's the most uncomfortable for the batter to swing, not where they have the highest chance of missing
I remember this game. quintessential performance by maddux
Greg Maddux is the pitching 🐐.
Unos de mi pichert favoritos
Pitching clinic
Greg Maddux was the best pitcher on the Atlanta braves team that should have beaten the new York Yankees in 1996 world series. Everybody likes Greg maddux because he was a nice guy. The cy young awards that he won with the braves are really something to watch. Atlanta braves are the best team that we saw in the 90's. The Yankees are a nice team, but the braves are more consistent.
Thu Nguyen "should have beat the Yankees"
Lol piss off, Yankees were clearly the best team and more consistent at that point in the league. Beat Braves in every single World Series they met. They don't get credit for what they did in 1992 in a 1996 World Series.
Technically, in 1996, SMOLTZ was their best pitcher, his major league leading wins is why he won the Cy Young over Maddux.
only met 2x! The 1999 rematch was totally miss-managed by Bobby Cox. In fact, the 90's Braves are similar to the 2000's Tigers. Outstanding starters with multiple Cy Young winners, but bullpens that often times blew it. The Braves lost the 1999 Series thanks to Cox's managing errors, just like the 2006/2012 Tigers and Leyland's horrible managing.
Jack Son No similarities. 90s Braves went to the world series 5x and won all division titles. Tigers had no runs like that from 2006-2012. Nor a staff like Atlanta's
Yankees won 3 WS in the 90's..the 1998 yankees team is one of the best ever.
Amazing that this team only won 1. I mean how much more stacked could you possibly get?! Smoltz Glavine Maddux. Chipper Galaraga Klesko Perez? Much props to the 90s braves you were most definitely a worthy adversary. At least you were able to bag one.
Cubs fan and therefore became a Maddux fan. He got a generous strike zone from the umpires most days but in this game he was just plain Mad Dog nasty.
Love it!! post vids of the yanks getting beat!!
I miss these 90s braves those were the days!
Maddox didn't even need outfielders for this game. He literally pitched the whole game without a hitter hitting a ball out of the infield, incredible.
He was born for that job!!!!!!!
El mejor greg maddux
*Watching this doesn't even phase me, because we all know what happened after this. The Yankees became a dynasty (only 2 outs away in 2001 from winning 4 championships in a row during an era of multiple playoff rounds and free agency), and the Braves didn't win another World Series game for 25 years.*
The only pitcher ever with more than 3,000 strikeouts, 300 wins, and fewer than 1,000 walks.
Watching him make defensive plays is amazing.
Recorded his first strike out in the 7th inning. This may not seem sexy to those who follow power pitchers but you know what is sexy? Winning.
Unbelievable
What's crazy is those 1st 3 innings he wasn't even hitting his spots and is still shutting that Yankees team down
my god, he was fielding ALL THE TIME.
Just amazing. He never threw anything straight. All his pitches had some kind of movement on them so the opposition could hardly ever barrel the ball up.
Yankee fan and I remember this. Weak ground balls all night he dissected us. Best in my opinion
best pitcher ever!
What a thing of beauty. Look at all those weak grounders. 2 Ks through 8 yet no runs allowed.
His main weapon was obviously intimidation. He had an arsenal of five or six pitches that he commanded at Will. Plus, he was very unassuming, it was like having your high school gym teacher pitching to you.
maddux just putting on a ground ball clinic
ground ball-inducing machine.
The pitcher of rare cost.
Maddux: wait what’s a relief pitcher? 🤔
The irony of your comment is that a relief pitcher came into the 9th inning of this game, haha.
@@chili015 Yeah, but the point of my joke was that it was probably not even necessary...
Letting him finish would've helped demoralize the Yankees.
I think in an age where velocity and strikeouts are everything, this is excellent proof for all those young pitchers out there that you don't need to blow a fastball by every hitter you face. Location. Movement. THEN velocity. In that order. Maddux may have been that best "pitcher" of all times in terms of changing speeds and pin point control. This guy never had to throw 98mph to get guys out.
Art of deception “the professor” was king of that. You would think one pitch is coming and it would look like that , and you would see another . Instead of getting wood on the ball, you would hit a nobbler right back to Greg Maddux . I saw that a lot . Lol!!!
What a Pitcher the man was, him and Clemens were the best in that ERA
I see what you did there.
exept Clement was Juice up Maddux pure Talent
Maddux was a career choke in the playoffs. This was one of his few good starts. He was kershaw before kershaw....
TrashTalkingItalian Way better than Kershaw in terms of post season numbers. I simply don't know why Kershaw is just different in the post season.
It is easy to see why Maddux can struggle in post season. He relies on location and post season team line-up rarely get fooled by good location pitches. That is why you want power pitchers in post season so they can get out of trouble by overpowering the hitters.
+Richie Bambara Except Clemens was a total A-hole and Maddux was all class.
Frickin *CHOKED*
So many ground balls
so many dribblers back to the mound
Still have no clue how Braves lost this series. Team was way better than the '95 crew.
Holy Crap!!!