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more like more fail from you holy koolaid,. bibical history is 100% accurate. you are butt hurt the bible ios telling the truth and destroying low iq liars like you/.
I always felt that this story reveals a certain cultural jealousy of Babylon. The Tower is clearly a Ziggurat, and Babylon was a cosmopolitan city with numerous language spoken. A nomadic people were amazed and envious, so they create a story where their sky god hates it. And provides a language myth.
I had similar thoughts, but I wouldn't consider it out of amazement and envy. Historically, the Jews hated the Babylonians for many reasons, but the main one being the enslavement of the Jewish people. I would consider this work at best criticism on Babylonian culture and at worst hate speech against the Babylonians.
At first people of your kind denied the existence of such a city and tower.... even the names were said to be made up.... archaeology from 19th and 20th centuries discovered and proved indeed it existed with exact names and dating....... perhaps the nomadic people also have a powerful God because in their book it says that Babylon Wil never be inhabited again once destroyed..... it's been more than 3000years and it's never been inhabited
@@patrickngunjiri5340 I did reply. Really. When a nomadic people meet a new, cosmopolitan culture with so much beauty, Envy was the first emotion. The Story of Babylon was how my people recorded this encounter.
@@AbandonedVoid I´m an engineering student and cant stand those fantasy stories of the bible. It is like someone without any clue about something trying to explain it in a especially goofy way. No research, no proof, no idea. Just pullin´ it straight out of their butt. Like: "Daaaad? Why are there people who speak different than we do?" "Ehhhhh... You know... some people built something really big.... annnnnd ehhhh... (what should i say?!)...goood... he didnt like it... and then he made them speak in different tungs... etc." To be honest: I find Tolkiens works much better.
1656 (2015 BCE): Flood of Noah 1751 (1920 BCE): Birth of Nimrod 1791 (1900 BCE): Nimrod rebels against G‑d and rules in Babel 1948 (1813 BCE): Birth of Abraham 1973 (1788 BCE): Construction of Tower of Babel begins 1996 (1765 BCE): Tower of Babel destroyed the flood was not local - or else they would not have bothered with buiding a floating zoo, just move a few thousand km instead. also, what flood takes weeks to drain? second, the imediat generations after noah lived to see hundreds of years, that means they were 300 years old and still making babies. third, the cities weren't built back then, but smaller versions of them with smaller populations. he built them in the sense of buiding the fundations. fourth: in hebrew a son is also possibly just a descendent. so no, there were not 3 generations, because Noah's son's sons could be 10 generations down the line with only 2 key fathers being mentioned. fifth: noah himself lived 400 years after the flood. it's not 3 couples. it's 4. sixth: this dude built a floating boat full of animals, yet we presume they didn't wash and were dying at 30 without medicine ? can you get more ridiculous ?
@@bluellamaslearnbeyondthele2456 You have been badly educated. A cursory investigation of documented, proven history, real events and records from the times you enumerate will show you these dates are wholly specious. You have been lied to, and now spread untruths as facts. It is sad.
I remember asking my sunday school teacher how a handful of people could repopulate the entire world TWICE (the first time with a father/mother and two sons) and he said "oh, there were other people on the Earth" and just moved on with the lesson. Meanwhile I'm sitting there thinking, "doesn't that disprove our entire religion?"
Adam and Eve were the first people on earth, and they had two sons (Cain and Abel). When Cain slew Abel he was cast out and had to go live with some other people. Where tf did these other people come from? I always wondered about that..
For the second repopulation, apparently it is mathematically possible. Starting with Noah and his four sons, over 8 generations, over 850 years (850 years later, there were around 10 million people around the globe), it would take every woman having 6 children, and none of those children dying before having 6 children (if one failed, another woman would have to birth 12 children). Considering how many women died early on and then in childbirth, this is pretty much impossible, and would be absurd to even suggest, but I hope this could at least bring an answer for a part of your question. Got this from Forrest Valkai, an evolutionary biologist: ua-cam.com/video/3L2L7JDyI5U/v-deo.html at 16:57 You can fact check this if something is wrong with his equation, but it seemed to be accurate to me. I am not a mathematician though.
@@ElizabethsLizard that mathematics is “possible” but not true bcs it doesn’t substrate with the number of deaths especially all of world deadly disasters. And also doesn’t explain the variety of races. How is it evolve into many races while the first group of humans are already intelligent.
There are several dispensations in the Bible, God is dispensing different instructions to different audiences throughout the Bible. At the towel of Babel God is talking to a different group from the Corinthians in 1 Corinthians 14:33 kjv; hence seemingly contradicting (confusion) information. Study to shew thyself approved unto God, a workman that needeth not to be ashamed, rightly dividing the word of truth. But shun profane and vain babblings: for they will increase unto more ungodliness. 2 Timothy 2:15-16 KJV
Once upon a time I earned my B.S. in Biblical Archaeology. “Absence of evidence is not evidence of absence, JDEP so many flashbacks to class. Having everything I was taught dismantled throughout this series is both jarring and a relief to my newly non-theistic soul. Well researched challenges like this are desperately needed. Keep doing what you do. 👍🏻
Once you get further through the Old Testament myths it would be super interesting to spice it up here and there with some Quran stories as well, all kinds of crazy stuff happening in both books.
I'd like to systematically make my way through the Bible, Quran, and Book of Mormon. Right now, I know the Bible the best and am learning a lot about history and archaeology as I go.
The building I’m in right now is taller than the supposed height of the Tower of Babel yet no god has taken action against me or indeed any of the other occupants 🤷🏻♂️
Back when Babel was being built god was corporeal and lived in the clouds, but now it's immaterial and lives outside of space and time. Derp, derp, derp.
Really love the evidenced based approach, Thomas! Great video and certainly look forward to part two. I live in the Bible Belt and can readily confirm that many people here claim to believe that the Bible is the literal and inerrant word of God. COVID has shown how deeply dangerous magical thinking can be. Thank you for being a champion of reason and empathy!!!!!
And how did covid do that exactly? Was it during the liberal atheist sponsored riots where everyone stopped social distancing for months in order to spread the virus further? Or was it when all the stores opened up and business got back to normal while "covid cases skyrocked" even though no one has a clue who is getting sick because everyone is fine? Oh, I see, it only counts when you're religious and gathering together. Makes sense. Perfect logic. Don't be religious, kids, you'll spread that covid.
@@philosophicalharmonics3470 Look at the footage of the "liberal atheist sponsored riots". Masks. Masks everywhere. I think you are a victim of the republican propaganda or a disinformer who is using his time to make bad comments on an excellent video. BTW, there are so many evangelic Christian that says that only god can ask them to wear a mask. Draw a conclusion before repeating a non-testable idea. And I hope you may have a wonderful day away from hate-spewing media.
@@Viseradh so what you're saying is all you need is a mask and can then stand 1 foot away from people for hours at a time chanting at the top of your voice and you're all protected. -- and then you have the audacity to ridicule religious people for doing something similar without masks. Wow. -- and you claim you know and follow the science? Come on, jack. Now look, I know you atheists are all about what you call science, but the evidence doesn't lie, you guys cherry pick that science and promote what agrees with your biases, just like everyone else. So get off your high horses. Acting self righteous like you're better than everyone else doesn't look good on you people. And thats what 100% of your condescending videos do.
@paul mortimer Cool myth, bro. If you follow actual biblical scholars and not childish dishonest apologists, the Book of Job, or at least parts of it, IS considered to have been written around 200 BCE.
I didn’t even buy the Babel story when I first heard it in third grade Sunday school. Our teacher did NOT like my skepticism and the way I encouraged the other children to not believe everything in the Bible. I didn’t even think the other kids were listening to my protests and questions. I just couldn’t believe a grown-up could be so stupid. This came shortly after the Noah lesson, where she tried to tell me that it never rained before the great flood. Some nonsense about a mist coming up from the ground that watered all the plants. I had very recently learned how water/clouds/rain worked, so there was no way I was buying that the entire way the water cycle works had changed after one big storm.
It wasn't "one big storm" It was a catastrophic global flood caused by subterranean water coming up, tsunamis sweeping through thousands of miles, and volcanic eruptions that drastically changed the earth's surface, the earth's atmosphere, and the climate. It was not just "one big storm".
@@warpnin3 oh, honey, no. There was no global flood. Only someone with NO understanding of geology, climatology, and physics would believe something so moronic. Volcanic eruptions do not change the way the Earth’s water cycle works. The mere fact that you believe any of your nonsense shows that you aren’t intelligent enough to tell the difference between mythology and reality, which puts your intellectual capacity approximately at the level of a toddler. Go color your little fairy tale stories in your coloring book and stop bothering the grown-ups now.
@@DaveTexas the more you believe there is no creator the more you think nothing creates nothing what even is that? The reality is people like you push unto us instead of trying to be kind and try to tell us your "truth" you instead make fun of our "story" and call it fairytale is that considered to be a good person you are right now? I don't think so because we are pretty much the same, That's why Jesus died for us. And you call what we believe nonsense so who created the universe? How can nothing created us and why would we bother you? You see an grown up and He is about to get hit by a train and doesn't know about it and he tells you to "stop bothering grownups" and when he dies then all people point fingers at you
@@DaveTexas and explain to me when I have a hard time with my relationship with God and a video appeared to me saying that your gonna have a hard time and when you have a relationship with God doesn't mean its gonna be easy since there will be people who will execute you because of your faith in God?
"The bible has already debunked itself". You mean like when Cain is exiled by God after killing his brother and joins the people in the Land of Nod? This is just one generation after the very first couple of people that ever existed, and already Cain is building a city with other people he's met.
It doesn't say he joined other people in the land of nod. 16. And Cain went out from the presence of the LORD, and dwelt in the land of Nod, on the east of Eden. (Genesis, 4) He took a sister as a wife and went to another land that had a different name from eden. It doesn't say anything about it being an inhabited land. How To Go To Heaven According to the holy Word of God in the King James Bible! It is very simple to be saved and takes only a minute to explain. Please let me show you how to get to Heaven from the Bible, God's Word... Man is a Sinner in the Eyes of a Holy God. Isaiah 53:6, “All we like sheep have gone astray; we have turned every one to his own way; and the LORD hath laid on him the iniquity of us all.”Romans 3:19, “Now we know that what things soever the law saith, it saith to them who are under the law: that every mouth may be stopped, and all the world may become guilty before God.”John 3:3, “Jesus answered and said unto him, Verily, verily, I say unto thee, Except a man be born again, he cannot see the kingdom of God.”Romans 3:10, “As it is written, There is none righteous, no, not one.”Romans 3:23, “For all have sinned, and come short of the glory of God.” There is a Price For Our Sin―Burning in Hell Forever. Romans 6:23, “For the wages of sin is death; but the gift of God is eternal life through Jesus Christ our Lord.”Romans 5:12, “Wherefore, as by one man sin entered into the world, and death by sin; and so death passed upon all men, for that all have sinned.”2nd Thessalonians 1:8, “In flaming fire taking vengeance on them that know not God, and that obey not the gospel of our Lord Jesus Christ.”Revelation 20:15, "And whosoever was not found written in the book of life was cast into the lake of fire.”Revelation 21:8, “But the fearful, and unbelieving, and the abominable, and murderers, and whoremongers, and sorcerers, and idolaters, and all liars, shall have their part in the lake which burneth with fire and brimstone: which is the second death.” Jesus paid that price by dying on the cross and shedding His blood; Christ was buried and bodily rose again the third day! Romans 5:8, “But God commendeth his love toward us, in that, while we were yet sinners, Christ died for us.”John 3:16, “For God so loved the world, that he gave his only begotten Son, that whosoever believeth in him should not perish, but have everlasting life.”1st Timothy 1:15, “This is a faithful saying, and worthy of all acceptation, that Christ Jesus came into the world to save sinners; of whom I am chief.”1st Peter 1:18-19, “Forasmuch as ye know that ye were not redeemed with corruptible things, as silver and gold, from your vain conversation received by tradition from your fathers; But with the precious blood of Christ...”1st Corinthians 15:1-4, “Moreover, brethren, I declare unto you the gospel which I preached unto you, which also ye have received, and wherein ye stand; By which also ye are saved, if ye keep in memory what I preached unto you, unless ye have believed in vain. For I delivered unto you first of all that which I also received, how that Christ died for our sins according to the scriptures; And that he was buried, and that he rose again the third day according to the scriptures.” This is the Gospel. By faith in Jesus Christ ALONE we are immediately saved.Galatians 3:26, “For ye are all the children of God by faith in Christ Jesus.”John 11:25, “Jesus said unto her, I am the resurrection, and the life: he that believeth in me, though he were dead, yet shall he live.”John 6:28-29, “Then said they unto him, What shall we do, that we might work the works of God? Jesus answered and said unto them, This is the work of God, that ye believe on him whom he hath sent.”Ephesians 2:8-9, “For by grace are ye saved through faith; and that not of yourselves: it is the gift of God: Not of works, lest any man should boast.”John 14:6, “Jesus saith unto him, I am the way, the truth, and the life: no man cometh unto the Father, but by me.”John 6:40, “And this is the will of him that sent me, that every one which seeth the Son, and believeth on him, may have everlasting life: and I will raise him up at the last day.”Mark 1:15, “And saying, The time is fulfilled, and the kingdom of God is at hand: repent ye, and believe the gospel.”Acts 26:18, “To open their eyes, and to turn them from darkness to light, and from the power of Satan unto God, that they may receive forgiveness of sins, and inheritance among them which are sanctified by faith that is in me.”Romans 10:13, “For whosoever shall call upon the name of the Lord shall be saved.”1st Corinthians 3:11, "For other foundation can no man lay than that is laid, which is Jesus Christ.”Galatians 3:26, “For ye are all the children of God by faith in Christ Jesus.” Salvation is NOT found in a religion or good works, but in a Person... The LORD JESUS CHRIST! Simply BELIEVE the Gospel and You Are Saved!
@@zaceishen7974 There was NOT SUPPOSED TO BE ANY OTHER HUMANS IN THE UNIVERSE EXCEPT THOSE 4. So what the on earth are you ranting about? - land of Nod? Is that not part of the 6 day DIY Universe that only has 4 people in it?
Man, I've been watching your videos quite some time. And I still like the intro and outro music, a lot! Awesome episode! looking forward to the next one.
As a Christian I appreciate how you are honestly showing the evidence in a fair light. There’s a lot of issues with the Bible especially the Old Testament. So many I don’t know how well it can be trusted. It’s got some interesting stories that are pretty strange. Your videos are really interesting and very educational. Have a great day.
These are the questions I would ask growing up and would just be told it was God working supernaturally and subject changed. Thank you for your hard work on these videos! I will be supporting.
Funny. Just before this video I got an ad for "The Bible Study" from some group that makes the Bible more fun to read. Seems like UA-cam's algorithm is confused
I love how a woman at work who, when confronted with this and other nonsense, merely writes it off as "God works in mysterious ways" and "but the bible is the word of God". Even THIS story, no matter how insane it is, is ardently defended (for want of a better word). Wow ...
Hi! I was raised Catholic , and went to an all boys Catholic school...that little smile she has is called Faith, not nonsense...just something she believes in...ain't no right or wrong...just what is...
The Bible shouldn't need defending.It shouldn't need explaining.It should be clear as a bell and easy to understand for whoever turns its pages.That wouldn't be to hard for the God of the impossible to do now, would it?
Ive been an athiest since the my College years in the good old 70's. I gave up the fight it seemed so futile after soooo many years of Kolaid drinking!! Thanks for waking up my passion for "Whats truth and whats not truth". ......good work......
Wonder what Incas thought when missionaries told them about flood waters covering mountains like the Andes. 'Man... whatever you're smoking, I want some!'
@@idlemindkiller i read it as saying the missionaries came over and told the Incas that there was a flood that covered the mountains and that idea was so out there to the Incas that they were like "what are you smoking". but there's well over 300 flood legends all over the globe that have no correlation to the bible's version. what the Incas would have thought is "oh, yeah, your legends are like ours, so I guess that means our gods helped you figure the world out." that's what they would have thought right before they died from plague and then from spanish wars.
When I was a christian, in my christian circles they repeated that God unites and Satan divides, and they had several verses to support that... That was used so we were in unison in almost everything. But then again it made me wonder, If God unites and Satan divides, why did God gave everyone different languages with the explicit intention of dividing them? No one could give me a satisfactory answer to that.
Well I mean obviously nothing said about God in the Bible is meant to be applied universally. Like how he can do anything except fight against iron chariots (Judges 1:19). Or how he never tempts any man (James 1:13) except when he does (Genesis 22:1-19, basically all of Job). Or how you shouldn't test god (Matthew 4:7 and many others) except if you're Gideon (Judges 6:36-7:23).
@@lamestudiosinc418 both of you fall for the same simple error that disconsideres the language barrier. God is not the author of sophistry. There, I fixed it for you. Has nothing to do with installing some language barriers. You could call me a loser arriving in second in a race, or look at the other 10 people who came in behind me and understand that I just want first. Confusion, obfuscation, who knows what the term means.
@@bluellamaslearnbeyondthele2456 Sophistry is not what the Greek says. The exact word used is akatastasias, which means "clutter", " chaos", or "disorder"
@Pesca Vegan interesting, the time stamp works fine as a link on my phone, but I guess not for everyone else! Thanks for the tip! As someone who also plays YT in the background a lot, I thought that might be about what had happened! Glad to help!
Hi, Thomas. I just looked at a brief bio about you, and I saw that your birthday was a week ago. Happy late birthday to you! I hope you were able to enjoy it.
@Lee Shackelford no good stuff here. only lies on this channel holy koolaid is here to deceive people. holy koolaid only tells flat out lies/. you ghuys are to scared to querstion the con man holy koolaid.
I love the Supernatural Castiel quote "Tower of Babel, all 37 feet of it, which I suppose was impressive at the time. And when it fell, they howled divine wrath. But come on, dried dung can only be stacked so high."
Very impressive introduction! I knew you were a great speaker from your videos but you really have a flair for language too. I’m a software dev who knows plenty of computer languages but they are closer to math than the spoken word.
Yeah you can definitely tell this is a story thought up to explain why humans speak so many different languages. And I've noticed when you read the story Yahweh is talking to other gods. When he's talking about we have to stop these humans, he doesn't like competition.
Elohim is plural and refers to El, or the proto-Semitic word for god. This probably refers to the Mesopotamian gods like Ishtar and Apsu and Tiamat. This goes back to before these religions diverged. The progression from polytheistic to monotheistic went through a phase where other gods existed, but Yahweh was the best. And eventually the other gods were discredited. These stories were originally concocted during all phases of that transition so you get odd remnants like this one in the Babel story, and Job, and in the Adam and Eve story where it is retconned from Yahweh talking to the other gods to just a vague warning that Adam and Eve will become like "Us" and it is assumed he means the Angels.
El is actually the name of the head god of the Canaanite pantheon. The people we call Israelite were Canaanites who eventually ceased worshipping their pantheon in favor of one god in the pantheon, who became God, Yahweh. Supposed to be the be-all end-all I-Am.
@@philosophicalharmonics3470 can you link any good resources you know for ancient Hebrew religious beliefs? I've actually been studying it recently and I would appreciate it if you know of any good scholarly sources.
It's funny how in the chapter right before this it tells of all the tribes and their LANGUAGES. Then BAM! Turn the page and another bible contradiction. 🤣
@@galacticbob1 Here's some to start elwynshebrewbiblepage.weebly.com/the-religion-of-ancient-israel-and-judah-was-polytheism.html www.academia.edu/3720298/Yahweh_and_his_Asherah_at_Kuntillet_Ajrud -- Since Asherah was the 'goddess of trees', the only way that Deuteronomy 16:21 makes any sense is if you recognize that the cult of Asherah was a competing deity, in the way that modern day political parties and auto companies compete. en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Origins_of_Judaism exodusmyth.com/2017/05/10/israelite-religion-to-judaism-the-evolution-of-the-religion-of-israel-david-steinberg/ After the Babylonian captivity, the now predominant Yahweh priesthood redacted and revised the "history" to cast the accepted practice of polytheism as an aberration or deviation, when in fact, like all other cultures, the Israelites had different gods for different reasons i.e. Baal for thunder and rain, Asherah for fertility, etc. Some too well known passages could not be altered, such as Exodus 20:3: "You shall have no _OTHER_ gods before me" -- why not simply state: 'Other gods don't exist' ? Because the Israelites believed in other gods ; the command was that Yahweh, the war god, would be the primary god. You also may want to research the uncanny similarities between Zoroastrianism, the state religion of the Persian Empire that liberated the Israelites from Babylonian captivity, and modern Christianism.
The tower of Babel was one of the first Bible stories t hat resonated with me when I decided to read the Bible cover to cover. I was about 12 and it was absolutely hilarious to me that anyone could read that in the Bible and be like "oh yeah I'm going to worship this guy. This is totally legit."
Wow thank you for the breakdown of Noah’s offsprings and Tower of Babel. Your work helps me learn how to talk to my ultra religious family and bible believers.
Even when I was a Christian I found the story of Babel at the minimum hard to believe. First, why did God needed to "go down" to see what was happening? And then when He confused the languages we suddenly had several languages with several gramatical topics, verbs, nouns and all? Even as a Christian I read this and was like "Man, this is a hard one to swallow."
Somehow your voice has become like music to my ears. Your message of knowledge is fantastic. It is with people like you that I feel humanity can take religion, thank it and move forward in a better direction that doesn't include killing each other over which illusion is better. !:- )
God: Divides people by creating multiple languages so they can't communicate. Also God: Must wait until the Roman Empire allows the word of Christ to spread throughout the region. Everyone: Hold on. This whole operation was your idea.
God: Knows who will be in Hell and didn't try to convince them during their lifetime Also God: Sends them in Hell for not believing his Holy book filled with contradictions Atheist: Hold on, this whole operation was your idea
Well if you would read and study God's word you would realize that he is long suffering that none of us should perish. He works out all things for his good.
I like the presentation of your videos.These videos are not only interesting,but they tell us what we really have known all along-Christianity is built on sand.
The whole Babel story is singularly daft. "No, my children. No tall towers. You can have as many parachutes, gliders, powered aircraft, drones, satellites, spacecraft and space stations as you like, though. (Thinks a bit) Oh, I never could say no to you. You CAN have tall, tall towers too! You can call them skyscrapers, since that's how tall they'll be."
You doing ok, Thomas? You look like you're about to strap on a sandwich board and hand out end times pamphlets on a college campus. You also kind of look like an cooler Bob Ross. Either way, the look is working.
The story in itself doesn't make sense. If god created humans to rule the earth and wanted them to be "good people" then why the fck would he seperate them and create chaos and thus thousands of wars and a bunch of other problems when the humans could have kinda lived happily ever after
Oh I know, I would ask questions during CCD and it would always boil down to either, "it just IS," or, "you are just supposed to have faith," whenever I would use that nasty things theologians call LOGIC. Basically the religious versions of DO NOT QUESTION AUTHORITY! DO AS TOLD!
@@MrTim223 well i mean bible and all what involves was created to control the masses easier while also making profit of it, While i cant say that i dont beleave in god and stuff my stand goes along the lines of. Only the dead know if there is anything after death, and all of religions are absolute bullshit made up by humans to control other humans by brainwashing them with bullshit, if by some chance god does exist and hes this all powerfull being theres absolute no reason why he would give a single fk about humanity or any other inferior savage species. And purely because there is that 0.01% chance that stuff like afterlife does exist in some way shape or form is the only reason why my view stays on being neutral about antheism and religion. Will see which one is correct once im dead, but hey wont be able to tell anyone :D
Some do review it thoroughly, but constantly justify what they don't understand or what seems horrendous. They then become very good at mental gymnastics.
What I like about this channel is that many Christians will say "He's just mad at God, he's trying do disprove something he knows it's real." Well, this guy is a living proof that this sentence is bullshit. The guy isn't mad or anything, he just has some pretty big ass amount of evidence against the bible lol
ah the tower of babel i remember it quite well continues trap card-place 1 spel counter on this card each time a spell card is activated, when the 4th spell card is placed on this card destroy this card and the player who activated that spell card takes 3000 damage ..... wait this isnt yugioh
The strangest thing about the Tower of Babel, is that god cowers from the might of humanity and sets about to confuse languages, so the power of humanity does not rival his power. So god is not all powerful? He did not predict this, meaning is not all knowing? How can people worship such a weak and clueless being?
The biggest contradiction to this story is that the tower of babylon, which would've been a ziggurat, would have been smaller than the pyramids. So why were the pyramids not struck down? Our modern skyscrapers easily get up to 3x taller than the pyramids. The burg khalifa is a testament to that. Why have our skyscrapers not been smited by the jealous sand god? It makes literally 0 sense why he would give a shit about people building a tower that is only a few hundred feet high at its peak, when the outer limits of our atmosphere reach out around 60 miles. The clouds alone are about a mile high off the ground. Its not like he's literally up in the sky somewhere, so why in hel's name would yahweh give a shit?
*I used to bring this up as a teen to my Bible class and no one could answer.* *If God is all knowing and omnipotent and smote the tongue of man and destroyed the tower then...* *We can fly to space which is higher than any tower that can be built.* *We can learn other languages and now have apps that can translate.* *So that means man is able to circumvent God's mighty power.*
And because of their confirmative bias, they will keep adding in and removing languages from that list until they can find languages where no one knew where it came from...
@@Marialla. According to wiktionary the name comes from hebrew root which means 'to rebel'. He's described as a hunter, but it seems it's not what the word means.
Oh, the demented drama! Oh, the twisted storyline! Oh, the hyperbole! Was the christian god THAT insecure? Just another fractured fairytale from the Book of Wholly Fables. Will christianity ever get a grip on reality, I wonder?
@@kingsolomonsbox1649 - No worries, I won't. A "loving" god that allows young children to get cancer and other terminal illnesses in order to make people pray to it, among other things, would be worthless anyway.
6:35 "weren't abandoned" Doug Petrovich argues Ziggurat of Eridu was left unfinished between carbon date 5400 BC and the very much later times of ... Amar-Sin. In the case of Göbekli Tepe, the project whatever it was, was abandoned.
2:50 "eastward"? The Bible in Hebrew says "miqqedem" and I checked elsewhere it means frm the East. I don't know Hebrew, but I can see miqqedem in that verse and confer "And Lot chose to himself the country about the Jordan, and he departed from the east: and they were separated one brother from the other." [Genesis 13:11] biblehub.com/interlinear/genesis/13-11.htm It says "miqqedem" and as Lot went to Sodom, today under Dead Sea, this is from east to west. Or : "The Syrians from the east, and the Philistines from the west: and they shall devour Israel with open mouth, For all this his indignation is not turned away, but his hand is stretched out still." [Isaias (Isaiah) 9:12] Syria was partly north, partly east of Holy Land. biblehub.com/interlinear/isaiah/9-12.htm Here miqqedem and meahowr are not translated from east and from west, but before and behind. But earlier translators had from the east and from the west. Confer "to the east". "And it passeth along from thence to the east side of Gethhepher and Thacasin: and goeth out to Remmon, Amthar and Noa." [Josue (Joshua) 19:13] www.studylight.org/interlinear-bible/joshua/19-13.html To the east is here qedemah.
I am a committed Christian (was an atheist and have been to seminary) and I want to applaud you. I have come to many of the same conclusions as you. Old Testament scholars like John Walton are teaching that it is critical to understand these texts in their literary milieu. I set out to disprove evolution and in 2 weeks' time, I thought my Biblical teaching in this area was likely wrong. Truth sets us free. I hope many Bible believers will take advantage of what you know, then move beyond that and take advantage of those who know and love God, and who have not abandoned reason, and believe critical thinking and science are two great gifts of God. God Bless You, my fellow truth seeker.
This video is part of a series. If you liked this one, you should check out the rest of the series here: ua-cam.com/play/PLCTNr4WPOQ97bwf-ylpCDR9kxrsEpp0kl.html
Four, I mean Five, I mean Fire!!
God caused racism
more like more fail from you holy koolaid,. bibical history is 100% accurate. you are butt hurt the bible ios telling the truth and destroying low iq liars like you/.
@@johnny50424 🤦♂️🤣 Obvious troll is obvious AF. Try harder.
Prediction: another uppity Jewish creationist is going to respond to this with cherrypicked research and more obscure, unrelated scripture passages.
I always felt that this story reveals a certain cultural jealousy of Babylon. The Tower is clearly a Ziggurat, and Babylon was a cosmopolitan city with numerous language spoken. A nomadic people were amazed and envious, so they create a story where their sky god hates it. And provides a language myth.
Excellent insight.
Yeah the nomadic cannonite people were known in that region and ironically Yahweh is the Cannonite God of War
I had similar thoughts, but I wouldn't consider it out of amazement and envy. Historically, the Jews hated the Babylonians for many reasons, but the main one being the enslavement of the Jewish people. I would consider this work at best criticism on Babylonian culture and at worst hate speech against the Babylonians.
At first people of your kind denied the existence of such a city and tower.... even the names were said to be made up.... archaeology from 19th and 20th centuries discovered and proved indeed it existed with exact names and dating....... perhaps the nomadic people also have a powerful God because in their book it says that Babylon Wil never be inhabited again once destroyed..... it's been more than 3000years and it's never been inhabited
@@patrickngunjiri5340 I did reply. Really. When a nomadic people meet a new, cosmopolitan culture with so much beauty, Envy was the first emotion. The Story of Babylon was how my people recorded this encounter.
As a linguist, I so deeply hate this story. It's completely wrong and against everything we know about language evolution
Maybe you could provide some discussion points for part 2?!
Almost as much as biologists and astrophysicists hate the creation myths, I'd assume.
@@AbandonedVoid I´m an engineering student and cant stand those fantasy stories of the bible. It is like someone without any clue about something trying to explain it in a especially goofy way. No research, no proof, no idea. Just pullin´ it straight out of their butt.
Like:
"Daaaad? Why are there people who speak different than we do?"
"Ehhhhh... You know... some people built something really big.... annnnnd ehhhh... (what should i say?!)...goood... he didnt like it... and then he made them speak in different tungs... etc."
To be honest: I find Tolkiens works much better.
Well see that's your problem right there. You're one of them brainwashed evolutionaryists.
Yeah , fer sure...but, c'mon...it plays well at Sunday School! Stories about gardens, arks, a pillar of salt...
Sir, I infinitely thank you for being one of the ones that destroyed my religious beliefs and dragged me out of my delusion
1656 (2015 BCE): Flood of Noah
1751 (1920 BCE): Birth of Nimrod
1791 (1900 BCE): Nimrod rebels against G‑d and rules in Babel
1948 (1813 BCE): Birth of Abraham
1973 (1788 BCE): Construction of Tower of Babel begins
1996 (1765 BCE): Tower of Babel destroyed
the flood was not local - or else they would not have bothered with buiding a floating zoo, just move a few thousand km instead. also, what flood takes weeks to drain?
second, the imediat generations after noah lived to see hundreds of years, that means they were 300 years old and still making babies.
third, the cities weren't built back then, but smaller versions of them with smaller populations. he built them in the sense of buiding the fundations.
fourth: in hebrew a son is also possibly just a descendent. so no, there were not 3 generations, because Noah's son's sons could be 10 generations down the line with only 2 key fathers being mentioned.
fifth: noah himself lived 400 years after the flood. it's not 3 couples. it's 4.
sixth: this dude built a floating boat full of animals, yet we presume they didn't wash and were dying at 30 without medicine ? can you get more ridiculous ?
@@bluellamaslearnbeyondthele2456The entire story is fake.
*The truth set you free*!
@@bluellamaslearnbeyondthele2456 You have been badly educated. A cursory investigation of documented, proven history, real events and records from the times you enumerate will show you these dates are wholly specious. You have been lied to, and now spread untruths as facts. It is sad.
I remember asking my sunday school teacher how a handful of people could repopulate the entire world TWICE (the first time with a father/mother and two sons) and he said "oh, there were other people on the Earth" and just moved on with the lesson. Meanwhile I'm sitting there thinking, "doesn't that disprove our entire religion?"
Adam and Eve were the first people on earth, and they had two sons (Cain and Abel). When Cain slew Abel he was cast out and had to go live with some other people. Where tf did these other people come from? I always wondered about that..
For the second repopulation, apparently it is mathematically possible. Starting with Noah and his four sons, over 8 generations, over 850 years (850 years later, there were around 10 million people around the globe), it would take every woman having 6 children, and none of those children dying before having 6 children (if one failed, another woman would have to birth 12 children). Considering how many women died early on and then in childbirth, this is pretty much impossible, and would be absurd to even suggest, but I hope this could at least bring an answer for a part of your question.
Got this from Forrest Valkai, an evolutionary biologist: ua-cam.com/video/3L2L7JDyI5U/v-deo.html at 16:57
You can fact check this if something is wrong with his equation, but it seemed to be accurate to me. I am not a mathematician though.
@@ElizabethsLizard that mathematics is “possible” but not true bcs it doesn’t substrate with the number of deaths especially all of world deadly disasters. And also doesn’t explain the variety of races. How is it evolve into many races while the first group of humans are already intelligent.
@@ElizabethsLizard
Nothing is impossible through God
The nun that taught me in CCD said this to me too!! And when I asked about it (because I was a curious kid) I got kicked out lol
Either you know all those languages in that intro or you just memorized that opening. Either way it was awesome! Kudos
Or I know several of them and memorized the rest. 🙃
Definitely doesn’t know Xhosa, cause that’s not how we speak
@@TheMindfulfoodie633 doesn't know German eithet and his French has a horrible accent.
@@TheMindfulfoodie633 Are you a Xhosa?
@@mwanikimwaniki6801 I’m South Africa, and live amongst Xhosa people , and I’m fluent in Xhosa
Mad respect for cramming so many languages into your intro!! BRAVO!
The Bible: "God is not the author of confusion."
God: *confuses people by scrambling languages*
Wie bitte?
There are several dispensations in the Bible, God is dispensing different instructions to different audiences throughout the Bible. At the towel of Babel God is talking to a different group from the Corinthians in 1 Corinthians 14:33 kjv; hence seemingly contradicting (confusion) information.
Study to shew thyself approved unto God, a workman that needeth not to be ashamed, rightly dividing the word of truth. But shun profane and vain babblings: for they will increase unto more ungodliness.
2 Timothy 2:15-16 KJV
@@ambassadorforchrist2Corin I like the sounds of Towel of Babel more than Tower of Babel
So I'm not going to correct you~
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Yet u dont understand why?
God is the existence of Love. Everybody believes Love exists. To degrade that comes with consequences.
Once upon a time I earned my B.S. in Biblical Archaeology. “Absence of evidence is not evidence of absence, JDEP so many flashbacks to class. Having everything I was taught dismantled throughout this series is both jarring and a relief to my newly non-theistic soul. Well researched challenges like this are desperately needed. Keep doing what you do. 👍🏻
Biblical archaeology is funny. It's dudes confirming each other's evidence by academic review. When in truth there is no evidence just speculation
too many words. and most of them are just silly.
@@uuncoolguy6Yes it mocks the all acedemia by that practice.
Once you get further through the Old Testament myths it would be super interesting to spice it up here and there with some Quran stories as well, all kinds of crazy stuff happening in both books.
I'd like to systematically make my way through the Bible, Quran, and Book of Mormon. Right now, I know the Bible the best and am learning a lot about history and archaeology as I go.
Don't forget the ancient atheist myths like eugenics.
the Myth of Eugenics?
What is the meaning of "eugenics" as you are using it.
am i to assume that you believe eugenics is a fact?? and eugenics has only one meaning. lol. simple google search on that one. sigh.
@@philosophicalharmonics3470 thats what hitler tried to implement pitty he failed
The building I’m in right now is taller than the supposed height of the Tower of Babel yet no god has taken action against me or indeed any of the other occupants 🤷🏻♂️
Give him time.
(Like after the heat death of the universe, you’re on his list...) 😁
@@AC-gb7do you might be too if you picked the wrong denomination...
Back when Babel was being built god was corporeal and lived in the clouds, but now it's immaterial and lives outside of space and time. Derp, derp, derp.
i suspect that the building you are in has hidden chariots of iron somewhere...
@@jadgbanzer9246 well, which is the right one?
Really love the evidenced based approach, Thomas! Great video and certainly look forward to part two.
I live in the Bible Belt and can readily confirm that many people here claim to believe that the Bible is the literal and inerrant word of God. COVID has shown how deeply dangerous magical thinking can be.
Thank you for being a champion of reason and empathy!!!!!
And how did covid do that exactly? Was it during the liberal atheist sponsored riots where everyone stopped social distancing for months in order to spread the virus further? Or was it when all the stores opened up and business got back to normal while "covid cases skyrocked" even though no one has a clue who is getting sick because everyone is fine?
Oh, I see, it only counts when you're religious and gathering together. Makes sense. Perfect logic. Don't be religious, kids, you'll spread that covid.
@@philosophicalharmonics3470 Look at the footage of the "liberal atheist sponsored riots". Masks. Masks everywhere.
I think you are a victim of the republican propaganda or a disinformer who is using his time to make bad comments on an excellent video.
BTW, there are so many evangelic Christian that says that only god can ask them to wear a mask. Draw a conclusion before repeating a non-testable idea.
And I hope you may have a wonderful day away from hate-spewing media.
@@Viseradh so what you're saying is all you need is a mask and can then stand 1 foot away from people for hours at a time chanting at the top of your voice and you're all protected. -- and then you have the audacity to ridicule religious people for doing something similar without masks. Wow. -- and you claim you know and follow the science? Come on, jack. Now look, I know you atheists are all about what you call science, but the evidence doesn't lie, you guys cherry pick that science and promote what agrees with your biases, just like everyone else. So get off your high horses. Acting self righteous like you're better than everyone else doesn't look good on you people. And thats what 100% of your condescending videos do.
@paul mortimer Cool myth, bro. If you follow actual biblical scholars and not childish dishonest apologists, the Book of Job, or at least parts of it, IS considered to have been written around 200 BCE.
The fact that this foolish comment got so many likes is dangerous 😂
Holy koolaid: "These towers were fully operational".
Emperor Palpatine: "We'll watch your career with great interest"
So what do the towers do exactly?!
I didn’t even buy the Babel story when I first heard it in third grade Sunday school. Our teacher did NOT like my skepticism and the way I encouraged the other children to not believe everything in the Bible. I didn’t even think the other kids were listening to my protests and questions. I just couldn’t believe a grown-up could be so stupid.
This came shortly after the Noah lesson, where she tried to tell me that it never rained before the great flood. Some nonsense about a mist coming up from the ground that watered all the plants. I had very recently learned how water/clouds/rain worked, so there was no way I was buying that the entire way the water cycle works had changed after one big storm.
It wasn't "one big storm"
It was a catastrophic global flood caused by subterranean water coming up, tsunamis sweeping through thousands of miles, and volcanic eruptions that drastically changed the earth's surface, the earth's atmosphere, and the climate. It was not just "one big storm".
@@warpnin3 oh, honey, no. There was no global flood. Only someone with NO understanding of geology, climatology, and physics would believe something so moronic. Volcanic eruptions do not change the way the Earth’s water cycle works. The mere fact that you believe any of your nonsense shows that you aren’t intelligent enough to tell the difference between mythology and reality, which puts your intellectual capacity approximately at the level of a toddler.
Go color your little fairy tale stories in your coloring book and stop bothering the grown-ups now.
@@DaveTexas and color your imagination and your knowledge in your brain and see how it works nothing is possible for God right there.
@@DaveTexas the more you believe there is no creator the more you think nothing creates nothing what even is that? The reality is people like you push unto us instead of trying to be kind and try to tell us your "truth" you instead make fun of our "story" and call it fairytale is that considered to be a good person you are right now? I don't think so because we are pretty much the same, That's why Jesus died for us. And you call what we believe nonsense so who created the universe? How can nothing created us and why would we bother you? You see an grown up and He is about to get hit by a train and doesn't know about it and he tells you to "stop bothering grownups" and when he dies then all people point fingers at you
@@DaveTexas and explain to me when I have a hard time with my relationship with God and a video appeared to me saying that your gonna have a hard time and when you have a relationship with God doesn't mean its gonna be easy since there will be people who will execute you because of your faith in God?
The archeological part of this was new and very interesing for me, keep it up, please!
Nimrod just really didn't like being crowded. I mean, how can anyone stand to live in a place with more than fifty people?
Nimrod was the OG Daniel Boone
"If I can see the smoke from my neighbor's chimney, it's time to move"
there is evidence that more than 50 people in a tribal unit leads to dysfunction.
This was just the start of social distancing.
😂🤣😂🤣😂. I live in LA 😂🤣😂🤣😂
"The bible has already debunked itself". You mean like when Cain is exiled by God after killing his brother and joins the people in the Land of Nod? This is just one generation after the very first couple of people that ever existed, and already Cain is building a city with other people he's met.
It doesn't say he joined other people in the land of nod.
16. And Cain went out from the presence of the LORD, and dwelt in the land of Nod, on the east of Eden.
(Genesis, 4)
He took a sister as a wife and went to another land that had a different name from eden. It doesn't say anything about it being an inhabited land.
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@@zaceishen7974Nobody is gonna read all that. Get over yourself.
@@zaceishen7974 There was NOT SUPPOSED TO BE ANY OTHER HUMANS IN THE UNIVERSE EXCEPT THOSE 4. So what the on earth are you ranting about? - land of Nod? Is that not part of the 6 day DIY Universe that only has 4 people in it?
@@zaceishen7974 The bottom of this screed has the youtube link 'show less' - oh boy, was that ever good advice.
Man, I've been watching your videos quite some time. And I still like the intro and outro music, a lot!
Awesome episode! looking forward to the next one.
It sounds like it’s from a 1970s porno
Ken Ham had his fingers in his ears while singing lalalala!
As a Christian I appreciate how you are honestly showing the evidence in a fair light. There’s a lot of issues with the Bible especially the Old Testament. So many I don’t know how well it can be trusted. It’s got some interesting stories that are pretty strange. Your videos are really interesting and very educational. Have a great day.
"You nimrod!"
Nimrod: "Yes, me Nimrod."
Hahaha!
Dr. Frankenstein: Werewolf!
Igor: There!
Dr. Frankenstein: What?
Igor: [points towards the woods] There wolf!
@@whiterabbit75 That's irritating; as if Mel Brooks and the actors couldn't hear a difference between the phonemes /w/ and /ʍ/.
Good one! you are indeed a cunning linguist 🤔
Thomas is trying to grow his beard all the way to heaven...
Nope. I'm Rapunzel-bearding my way to hell.
@@HolyKoolaid lol nice 😂
@@HolyKoolaid Beelzebub, Beelzebub... let down your knappy scruff!!!
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Toward his crotch? I concur, there is surely no place more devine.
These are the questions I would ask growing up and would just be told it was God working supernaturally and subject changed. Thank you for your hard work on these videos! I will be supporting.
Funny. Just before this video I got an ad for "The Bible Study" from some group that makes the Bible more fun to read. Seems like UA-cam's algorithm is confused
I love how a woman at work who, when confronted with this and other nonsense, merely writes it off as "God works in mysterious ways" and "but the bible is the word of God".
Even THIS story, no matter how insane it is, is ardently defended (for want of a better word).
Wow ...
Hi! I was raised Catholic , and went to an all boys Catholic school...that little smile she has is called Faith, not nonsense...just something she believes in...ain't no right or wrong...just what is...
Mental gymnastics is a term I like to use
@@JediSandwich That works!
Her cup of koolaid was particularly strong.
The Bible shouldn't need defending.It shouldn't need explaining.It should be clear as a bell and easy to understand for whoever turns its pages.That wouldn't be to hard for the God of the impossible to do now, would it?
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Wonder what Incas thought when missionaries told them about flood waters covering mountains like the Andes.
'Man... whatever you're smoking, I want some!'
Are you joking? You DO know that Incas had their own flood legend where the Andes were all covered in water? You people are beyond hope.
@@philosophicalharmonics3470 I don't think you read the original comment correctly.
@@idlemindkiller i read it as saying the missionaries came over and told the Incas that there was a flood that covered the mountains and that idea was so out there to the Incas that they were like "what are you smoking".
but there's well over 300 flood legends all over the globe that have no correlation to the bible's version. what the Incas would have thought is "oh, yeah, your legends are like ours, so I guess that means our gods helped you figure the world out." that's what they would have thought right before they died from plague and then from spanish wars.
@@philosophicalharmonics3470 right. But I think the comment was meant as a joke about the very things you just listed.
I don't think so.
When I was a christian, in my christian circles they repeated that God unites and Satan divides, and they had several verses to support that... That was used so we were in unison in almost everything. But then again it made me wonder, If God unites and Satan divides, why did God gave everyone different languages with the explicit intention of dividing them? No one could give me a satisfactory answer to that.
Are we gonna talk about how the god who says he isn't the author of confusion specificlly authors confusion?
Well I mean obviously nothing said about God in the Bible is meant to be applied universally. Like how he can do anything except fight against iron chariots (Judges 1:19). Or how he never tempts any man (James 1:13) except when he does (Genesis 22:1-19, basically all of Job). Or how you shouldn't test god (Matthew 4:7 and many others) except if you're Gideon (Judges 6:36-7:23).
@@lamestudiosinc418 both of you fall for the same simple error that disconsideres the language barrier.
God is not the author of sophistry. There, I fixed it for you.
Has nothing to do with installing some language barriers.
You could call me a loser arriving in second in a race, or look at the other 10 people who came in behind me and understand that I just want first. Confusion, obfuscation, who knows what the term means.
God is not the author of sophistry. Did you look up the Greek?
@@bluellamaslearnbeyondthele2456 Sophistry is not what the Greek says. The exact word used is akatastasias, which means "clutter", " chaos", or "disorder"
@@lamestudiosinc418 lovely. caught me. thanks ! still, there is this video you might wanna watch: Responding to Holy Koolaid on the Tower of Babel
Peaches and eggplants! LOL
Lmao , I spat coffee all over the keyboard
That part was actually my roommate, Eric Murphy's addition to the video. :)
@@HolyKoolaid thx Eric and koolaid guy for making us laugh, and educating us as well
@Pesca Vegan @1:40 "be fruitful"
@Pesca Vegan interesting, the time stamp works fine as a link on my phone, but I guess not for everyone else! Thanks for the tip!
As someone who also plays YT in the background a lot, I thought that might be about what had happened! Glad to help!
My favorite part of the story is that in theory if we all learned to communicate and built a a giant tower we could destroy God
Ye but now we have drones, planes, rocket ships, even towers higher than the one the ppl used to reach god
which begs the question if it was metaphor and not a literal “tower” and how much the story has changed over time
Hi, Thomas. I just looked at a brief bio about you, and I saw that your birthday was a week ago. Happy late birthday to you! I hope you were able to enjoy it.
Whoa! The languages at the start of the video? Perfect touch! You really speak all these languages? Your accents sound good! Now to continue watching.
I don't think he speaks them all, but the effort was cool.
No. I only speak 4 of them.
@@HolyKoolaid I saw someone correcting your German? Which four? I'm curious.
@@HolyKoolaid still impressive!
@@HolyKoolaid To paraphrase Bill Burr, I’m on my third attempt at Rosetta Stone Japanese. Good on you for being multilingual!
Aw man the series is over?
Binged out all day really good work sir very interesting 👍
My first video I've seen of yours, great stuff man. Never even heard that point before but it's incredibly legit
just discovered your channel from this video and subscribed. really dig your content and can't wait to binge your other videos when i have more time.
@Lee Shackelford no good stuff here. only lies on this channel holy koolaid is here to deceive people. holy koolaid only tells flat out lies/. you ghuys are to scared to querstion the con man holy koolaid.
no good stuff on this channel. only garbage from holy koolaid here. holy koolaid only spow puere lies here.
@@johnny50424
Could you provide some scientific evidence for your claim? I’d gladly consider him a conman if enough evidence was presented.
Maybe this happened in Alabama.
Sweet home Alabama
Where the skies are so blue
Sweet home Alabama
Lord, I'm coming home to you
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Or Tasmania!
I love the Supernatural Castiel quote "Tower of Babel, all 37 feet of it, which I suppose was impressive at the time. And when it fell, they howled divine wrath. But come on, dried dung can only be stacked so high."
Throughout the entire video I could hear Cass's voice in my head! Now I'm gonna watch that episode. 😆
@Phillip Evans Are you stupid? It a tv show quote.
Haven't seen you in many months. Glad to see you are still hanging in there. The new look...looks kinda nice I have to say. Keep up the great work!
Very impressive introduction! I knew you were a great speaker from your videos but you really have a flair for language too. I’m a software dev who knows plenty of computer languages but they are closer to math than the spoken word.
Yeah you can definitely tell this is a story thought up to explain why humans speak so many different languages. And I've noticed when you read the story Yahweh is talking to other gods. When he's talking about we have to stop these humans, he doesn't like competition.
Elohim is plural and refers to El, or the proto-Semitic word for god. This probably refers to the Mesopotamian gods like Ishtar and Apsu and Tiamat. This goes back to before these religions diverged. The progression from polytheistic to monotheistic went through a phase where other gods existed, but Yahweh was the best. And eventually the other gods were discredited. These stories were originally concocted during all phases of that transition so you get odd remnants like this one in the Babel story, and Job, and in the Adam and Eve story where it is retconned from Yahweh talking to the other gods to just a vague warning that Adam and Eve will become like "Us" and it is assumed he means the Angels.
El is actually the name of the head god of the Canaanite pantheon. The people we call Israelite were Canaanites who eventually ceased worshipping their pantheon in favor of one god in the pantheon, who became God, Yahweh. Supposed to be the be-all end-all I-Am.
@@philosophicalharmonics3470 can you link any good resources you know for ancient Hebrew religious beliefs? I've actually been studying it recently and I would appreciate it if you know of any good scholarly sources.
It's funny how in the chapter right before this it tells of all the tribes and their LANGUAGES. Then BAM! Turn the page and another bible contradiction. 🤣
@@galacticbob1 Here's some to start
elwynshebrewbiblepage.weebly.com/the-religion-of-ancient-israel-and-judah-was-polytheism.html
www.academia.edu/3720298/Yahweh_and_his_Asherah_at_Kuntillet_Ajrud
-- Since Asherah was the 'goddess of trees', the only way that Deuteronomy 16:21 makes any sense is if you recognize that the cult of Asherah was a competing deity, in the way that modern day political parties and auto companies compete.
en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Origins_of_Judaism
exodusmyth.com/2017/05/10/israelite-religion-to-judaism-the-evolution-of-the-religion-of-israel-david-steinberg/
After the Babylonian captivity, the now predominant Yahweh priesthood redacted and revised the "history" to cast the accepted practice of polytheism as an aberration or deviation, when in fact, like all other cultures, the Israelites had different gods for different reasons i.e. Baal for thunder and rain, Asherah for fertility, etc.
Some too well known passages could not be altered, such as Exodus 20:3: "You shall have no _OTHER_ gods before me"
-- why not simply state: 'Other gods don't exist' ?
Because the Israelites believed in other gods ; the command was that Yahweh, the war god, would be the primary god.
You also may want to research the uncanny similarities between Zoroastrianism, the state religion of the Persian Empire that liberated the Israelites from Babylonian captivity, and modern Christianism.
The tower of Babel was one of the first Bible stories t hat resonated with me when I decided to read the Bible cover to cover. I was about 12 and it was absolutely hilarious to me that anyone could read that in the Bible and be like "oh yeah I'm going to worship this guy. This is totally legit."
Excellent work, my friend. Keep doing what you do. It is immensely appreciated. ❤
God is real.
Math is such an inconvenient thing, isn’t it? From one Thomas to another, great work and thank you very much. Please keep up the great work!
Wow thank you for the breakdown of Noah’s offsprings and Tower of Babel. Your work helps me learn how to talk to my ultra religious family and bible believers.
I'm afraid it will only help you in theory :)
I like ur hair. Also, please keep making these videos! I really appreciate your work 😻
Even when I was a Christian I found the story of Babel at the minimum hard to believe. First, why did God needed to "go down" to see what was happening? And then when He confused the languages we suddenly had several languages with several gramatical topics, verbs, nouns and all? Even as a Christian I read this and was like "Man, this is a hard one to swallow."
Dude! Well done the languages. You really put the effort in. Thanks
Thanks Koolaid!!
Thanks!
Did ancient Egyptian history notice they were destroyed by a world wide flood around 5000 YRS AGO?
Did native Americans notice the world being created 6000 years ago?
@@valkeakirahvi Well IF CARBON 14 IS VALID THEN THEIR TRIBAL HISTORY WOULD PREDATE THE 6000 YR CHRONOLOGY
@@joehinojosa24 Yep that's my point. Well over 10 000 years.
@@valkeakirahvi One Could say, the universe APPEARS differently from the Bible account
Did the annunaki realise that when they changed our ADN so we could evolve in smarter beings than we were supposed to be?
Your intro reminded me of a normal day at work... I work at EPCOT
Yes!! You are one of my favourite 'Tubers. I love getting a notification. ;)
Just got here! I saw this and immediately liked it. Keep it up, man!
Hard to say how much work was done here that saved me time. Much. Thank you!
Somehow your voice has become like music to my ears. Your message of knowledge is fantastic. It is with people like you that I feel humanity can take religion, thank it and move forward in a better direction that doesn't include killing each other over which illusion is better. !:- )
God: Divides people by creating multiple languages so they can't communicate.
Also God: Must wait until the Roman Empire allows the word of Christ to spread throughout the region.
Everyone: Hold on. This whole operation was your idea.
that's abrahamic religions for ya
This is what happened when missionaries came to the "new world":
ua-cam.com/video/4ltduYpLoag/v-deo.html
God: Knows who will be in Hell and didn't try to convince them during their lifetime
Also God: Sends them in Hell for not believing his Holy book filled with contradictions
Atheist: Hold on, this whole operation was your idea
Sir, ill have you know george lucas does not speak for everyone. I will only accept Quentin Tarantino writing my dialog.
Well if you would read and study God's word you would realize that he is long suffering that none of us should perish. He works out all things for his good.
I'm not a fan of the adversarial tone of this channel, but I do love the content. Keep it up!
Thank you for the great content! I would really like to see a part two of that topic.
I like the presentation of your videos.These videos are not only interesting,but they tell us what we really have known all along-Christianity is built on sand.
Holy Koolaid, wow. You look great, kinda like a hippy/scholar! Excellent info, as usual. I'm trying, to be able to offer support. 👍💞✌😷🎃
The Tower of Babel is a lot like the Jack in the bean stalk story. It sounds like a fairytale
The whole Babel story is singularly daft. "No, my children. No tall towers. You can have as many parachutes, gliders, powered aircraft, drones, satellites, spacecraft and space stations as you like, though. (Thinks a bit) Oh, I never could say no to you. You CAN have tall, tall towers too! You can call them skyscrapers, since that's how tall they'll be."
Love your channel!!!
"The man in black fled across the desert and the gunslinger followed."
Not the man in black?
@@daveb6722 thanks, good catch.
You doing ok, Thomas? You look like you're about to strap on a sandwich board and hand out end times pamphlets on a college campus. You also kind of look like an cooler Bob Ross. Either way, the look is working.
I would have gone with move into a cabin in the woods an start writing a manifesto.
Lol. Let's just say I haven't gotten a hair cut since the before times.
My first reaction was " who is this crazy rabbi?" Seriously, I had to double take. But, nonetheless looks good.
He looks great!
@@HolyKoolaid he is rocking the jewfro pretty well, but the beard needs more care IMHO
The story in itself doesn't make sense. If god created humans to rule the earth and wanted them to be "good people" then why the fck would he seperate them and create chaos and thus thousands of wars and a bunch of other problems when the humans could have kinda lived happily ever after
I just binged all of these! Love em! But now I'm sad cuz I'll have to wait for #8.
Awesome intro. Great content, thanks for your work and time on them. I've learned a lot watching.
Critical review of the bible like this is something "christians" avoid at all costs, lest they become atheists.
Oh I know, I would ask questions during CCD and it would always boil down to either, "it just IS," or, "you are just supposed to have faith," whenever I would use that nasty things theologians call LOGIC.
Basically the religious versions of DO NOT QUESTION AUTHORITY! DO AS TOLD!
@@MrTim223 well i mean bible and all what involves was created to control the masses easier while also making profit of it, While i cant say that i dont beleave in god and stuff my stand goes along the lines of. Only the dead know if there is anything after death, and all of religions are absolute bullshit made up by humans to control other humans by brainwashing them with bullshit, if by some chance god does exist and hes this all powerfull being theres absolute no reason why he would give a single fk about humanity or any other inferior savage species. And purely because there is that 0.01% chance that stuff like afterlife does exist in some way shape or form is the only reason why my view stays on being neutral about antheism and religion. Will see which one is correct once im dead, but hey wont be able to tell anyone :D
*fundamentalist Christians.
Some do review it thoroughly, but constantly justify what they don't understand or what seems horrendous. They then become very good at mental gymnastics.
ua-cam.com/video/ZNc-hyIRrCs/v-deo.html
That intro was a freaking trip man lol
Oh how I wish your vids were subtitled in Spanish and Portuguese, I would send it to every family member 🤓🙌🏿
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Don't scare me like that!!!!! Damn.... your opening scene....was a little worried about you....good video
What I like about this channel is that many Christians will say "He's just mad at God, he's trying do disprove something he knows it's real." Well, this guy is a living proof that this sentence is bullshit. The guy isn't mad or anything, he just has some pretty big ass amount of evidence against the bible lol
Clever opening.
ah the tower of babel i remember it quite well
continues trap card-place 1 spel counter on this card each time a spell card is activated, when the 4th spell card is placed on this card destroy this card and the player who activated that spell card takes 3000 damage
..... wait this isnt yugioh
7:08 Lapis lazuli? No wonder they build pyramids, suckers had enchanted stuff
Good joke, I had to read it twice to understand it
Bro, I love that opening.
This was fantastic! Thank you for this.
Taking advantage of No Shave November I see
*Watches multi-lingual intro* WE GET IT, YOU TRAVEL!
Seriously though, clever intro
Don't get me wrong, that intro was quite impressive, but for a second there, I thought I was having a stroke.
So happy to see another installment in this series. 😀
The strangest thing about the Tower of Babel, is that god cowers from the might of humanity and sets about to confuse languages, so the power of humanity does not rival his power. So god is not all powerful? He did not predict this, meaning is not all knowing?
How can people worship such a weak and clueless being?
You debunked the tower of babel without even looking at linguistics. That's something, man.
The biggest contradiction to this story is that the tower of babylon, which would've been a ziggurat, would have been smaller than the pyramids. So why were the pyramids not struck down? Our modern skyscrapers easily get up to 3x taller than the pyramids. The burg khalifa is a testament to that. Why have our skyscrapers not been smited by the jealous sand god? It makes literally 0 sense why he would give a shit about people building a tower that is only a few hundred feet high at its peak, when the outer limits of our atmosphere reach out around 60 miles. The clouds alone are about a mile high off the ground. Its not like he's literally up in the sky somewhere, so why in hel's name would yahweh give a shit?
Hence stories written by sheepherders who didn't know where the sun went at night.
"Those aren't boobs, they're LIES!!!"
I love Family Guy lol
*I used to bring this up as a teen to my Bible class and no one could answer.*
*If God is all knowing and omnipotent and smote the tongue of man and destroyed the tower then...*
*We can fly to space which is higher than any tower that can be built.*
*We can learn other languages and now have apps that can translate.*
*So that means man is able to circumvent God's mighty power.*
Can’t wait to see part 2. Love your work, very thoughtful and engaging content
And because of their confirmative bias, they will keep adding in and removing languages from that list until they can find languages where no one knew where it came from...
I thought "nimrod" was an insult...
Bugs Bunny used it as a sarcastic name for Elmer Fudd, because it means "mighty hunter".
@@Marialla. According to wiktionary the name comes from hebrew root which means 'to rebel'. He's described as a hunter, but it seems it's not what the word means.
Another wonderful video thank you so much for putting these together. They are so well done and entertaining.
Oh, the demented drama! Oh, the twisted storyline! Oh, the hyperbole! Was the christian god THAT insecure? Just another fractured fairytale from the Book of Wholly Fables. Will christianity ever get a grip on reality, I wonder?
Buddy. Relax.
If you ever have a problem, an incurable illness or a sick loved one remember not to call on the God you don't believe in.🥴
@@kingsolomonsbox1649 - No worries, I won't. A "loving" god that allows young children to get cancer and other terminal illnesses in order to make people pray to it, among other things, would be worthless anyway.
@@kingsolomonsbox1649 was that a comeback lmao.
Great video Thomas. Thanks 👍
So, When can I expect the next 30 episodes of this series? More please...
6:35 "weren't abandoned"
Doug Petrovich argues Ziggurat of Eridu was left unfinished between carbon date 5400 BC and the very much later times of ... Amar-Sin.
In the case of Göbekli Tepe, the project whatever it was, was abandoned.
Thanks for some debunking. There are so many lunatics in the web that tell totally moronic lies and myths.
2:50 "eastward"?
The Bible in Hebrew says "miqqedem" and I checked elsewhere it means frm the East. I don't know Hebrew, but I can see miqqedem in that verse and confer
"And Lot chose to himself the country about the Jordan, and he departed from the east: and they were separated one brother from the other."
[Genesis 13:11]
biblehub.com/interlinear/genesis/13-11.htm
It says "miqqedem" and as Lot went to Sodom, today under Dead Sea, this is from east to west.
Or :
"The Syrians from the east, and the Philistines from the west: and they shall devour Israel with open mouth, For all this his indignation is not turned away, but his hand is stretched out still."
[Isaias (Isaiah) 9:12]
Syria was partly north, partly east of Holy Land.
biblehub.com/interlinear/isaiah/9-12.htm
Here miqqedem and meahowr are not translated from east and from west, but before and behind. But earlier translators had from the east and from the west.
Confer "to the east".
"And it passeth along from thence to the east side of Gethhepher and Thacasin: and goeth out to Remmon, Amthar and Noa."
[Josue (Joshua) 19:13]
www.studylight.org/interlinear-bible/joshua/19-13.html
To the east is here qedemah.
I am a committed Christian (was an atheist and have been to seminary) and I want to applaud you. I have come to many of the same conclusions as you. Old Testament scholars like John Walton are teaching that it is critical to understand these texts in their literary milieu. I set out to disprove evolution and in 2 weeks' time, I thought my Biblical teaching in this area was likely wrong. Truth sets us free. I hope many Bible believers will take advantage of what you know, then move beyond that and take advantage of those who know and love God, and who have not abandoned reason, and believe critical thinking and science are two great gifts of God. God Bless You, my fellow truth seeker.
My two tours in Iraq, I was able to visit, climb, and stand atop the ziggurat at urek. It is humbling, you can feel the history there.