Fog vs control is the strangest fight I’ve seen. One puts so much energy into making sure their opponent can’t do anything, meanwhile the fog player doesn’t want to do anything.
Thoralf: I'll just counter all of your important spells, not the card draw. Carl: Jokes on you, I'm playing win conditionless turbofog, I HAVE NO IMPORTANT SPELLS!
Interesting to know that the interview sections are recorded mid game. I would like to personally thank the editor for their work, really helps me understand what's going on as a kitchen table magic enjoyer.
I honestly thought they'd just record the game, then later interview each other based on the events of the game, and splice the footage. Seems easier that way. Uninterrupted game, and uninterrupted interview
I almost threw a brick at my monitor when you let the 5/5 hit you instead of blocking with your 1/3 and zapping it with the four Deserts ... until I remembered that Ward counters abilities and not just spells. Oof. Not that it would have mattered I don't think, but still. Fun video! I haven't played Magic in quite some time but this format seems like it'd be really fun - tons of otherwise underplayed cards and it seems like the opportunity for solid homebrewing is there!
Thoralf was such a good sport about losing to Turbo-fog in the first game. A lot of people would be really salty about it, so it's nice to see someone promote healthy sportsmanship against people like me who love Turbo-fog LOL
Discarding all the Terrors was kinda weird in game one. He was so interested in figuring out what is going on, that he did not do much to actually win.
did i miss something? after casting his weather the storms he was left with 2 lands and moments peace. he can stall for 2 turns and then starts taking 12 damage because of the terrors if thoralf kept them in hand.
@@simplyrin210 I have a turbo fog edh deck. The most common win condition is to play Glacial Chasm and then cast a Hurricane (or similar) for 40+ mana. There are no infinite combos, but the commander is Sasaya Orochi Ascendant who's flip side makes your mana insane.
Whoever chose the change in music at 24:06 made an excellent choice. The entire sequence from there was just awesome and the audio choice really helped enhance that!
This is the video that changed my mind about this channel. I had thought these guys were just MtG judges or something, but this video shows they're something much greater: friends who passionately love building fun decks and playing their favorite game. I can't wait to see what fun brews you all play in the future!
I love this match so much. As somebody who piloted all sorts of insane jank at Type 1 tournaments back in the day, I can tell you that doing something completely unexpected has huge value all on its own. It's so easy to lead somebody down the garden path when you're playing something funky. And when they finally realize what's happening, it's too late. "Oh no, I shouldn't have let you resolve Fluctuator!" Tough, now I'm drawing my whole deck and locking down every creature you ever play. Game 2?
Those are especially interesting because they are all such good players. Their decisions aren't obvious to me from time to time and then hearing their thoughts is soo helpful
So happy to see my favorite format on cardmarket. It's so fun to play a format where tap lands are meta. Jeskai ephemerate comes to mind as one of my favorites.
Really fun to see. Love the chemistry and pauper content is always going to get a view from me! Was really interesting to hear Thoralf's thought process during game one and to see how a Mythic Champ can come back even in an off-meta matchup to scoop up the win. Definitely would love to see more pauper content!
I’m obsessed with these videos, so fun and good thank you so much, love the commentary as well as the gameplay. I just love that it’s actual paper magic, not just MTGO content like so much else, card sounds are so good.
That turbo fog was super fun and the video has absolutely sublime editing overall! Love the little sound effects and appreciate the well documented info via an UI.
That being said, as a minor criticism, I think reducing the volume of the music in intense phases would be better. It's a tad too loud und thus distractive for my taste. Another solution would to be to choose a little less hectic and more chill background music. Talking about it, I think some chill music would actually benefit your content in several ways, as your videos tend to appear a bit hectic overall - very fast plays and fast talking. A chill music would even that out a bit. Just my 2 cents though and keep up the great work!
I have no idea if this type of format exists, but I'd love to see one where rarity determines how many of a card you can include in your deck. E.g. 4 each of commons, 2 each of uncommons, 1 each of rare/mythics.
@@sefisyara5961 Hearthstone limits you to 2 copies per common, rare or epic and 1 per legendary; and having a card type you can only run one copy of definitely didn't start with Hearthstone (the first CCG I played, Myths and Legends, did this all the way back in 2000, called "unique cards"). Only game that comes to mind with more than two different copies-per-card limitations is Yu Gi Oh, but limited/semi-limited cards are soft-bans rather than rarity-based.
What an intense game, holy cripes! This was genuinely amazing! Slow start of course, but the final few moments of the first match were actually super tense. edit: Second match was even better than the first! Those counter-chains were juicy!
Oh you like juicy counter chains huh? The pauper subreddit has a long history of top posts involving 12+ card stacks of blue and red elemental blasts and the like; was far more frequent back in the Kiln Fiend days... Point is, Pauper is super sweet and has many very intricate interactions. I think it's the best place to really hone your skill in getting the most out of each of your cards since it's so rare for any single card to win on it's own.
I hate Moment's Peace. It gives me PTSD, because I once had a friend who would play a lot of fog effects with no real wincon... Yet I thank you for the vid, always a blast to watch!
so the key to playing that deck on modo is, ALWAYS PLAY QUICKLY. you might not be able to win the game before the click times out, but your opponent is likely going to take more actions than you per turn, which means your clock is often ahead of the opponent. ezpz
48:50 lmao, Thoralf 'albur' was so clever. Excellent match, btw. So well played, I loved seeing you piloting your decks masterfully. I might try Pauper myself sometime.
It sounds like Carl might be interested in some pauper cards I've tried to build around before... but without a group who plays pauper I've not been able to test them. Palace Guard, Wall of Glare + Ghostly Possession, Inviolability, and Benevolent Blessing That make a backbone that can simply ignore nearly all combat oriented decks. It's also really cool that Possession can be used as a backup "pacifism" if you're in a pinch to turn off damage from an opponent's largest beater. A few copies of Nimbus wings can also make sure your blockers can deal with fliers as well (in addition to possession).
My favourite line in turbofog is to weather the storm on my opponent's end step, and arcane denial one of the copies, in order to draw 3 extra on my following turn.
Something that would help that blue strategy that I've seen is to find a way to shuffle the creatures you bottom around so you can draw them early again, as well as shuffle poor Brainstorm targets. The UB Faeries decklists that I've been eyeing use Evolving Wilds and Ash Barrens's basic landcycling for that purpose.
As soon as I finished this video I went and made my own version of the turbofog deck and ordered the cards. It seems really fun to play and really annoyed to play against wich is what I like
even though this video is a month old i'm commenting here because it's one of my favourites. I'd like to see you two or other members of the cardmarket youtube team play tiny leaders!
I'd love to see some pauper commander. I have a pretty gross pirate pauper deck with Breeches and Malcom(uncommon legendaries for the commander) where you just cantrip to find your infinite. Which is kinda contrary to the community for pauper it's very fun though.
Maybe some earlier 1 mana 5/5's would have helped putting more pressure in G1 as there would be enough mana left for some counterspells. This was such a funny game to watch :D
Loved this video! Can't wait for more pauper content in the future, it's a format that seems great but I just haven't had much exposure too (although turbofog isn't selling me but I won't hold that against the format lol). I'd love to see some more legacy. Doomsday is one of my favorite decks of all time and it pretty unique to legacy - but wait, isn't that deck hard to pick up? How will one of the guys learn it for the video? If only there was a known Doomsday player in Berlin that also had experience in front of the camera... Maybe Kai Sawatari knows a guy?
Oh i just noticed there is a Pauper Video i did not see yet. :) Very nice you keep playing that great format!. :D Really nice to see this slow Pauper matchup ^^ Cute how you said sorry to the viewers, but you need to apologize to yourself, you had to edit this video :P
🌫️🐍 Decklists here: bit.ly/3rsx9HT
My favorite format is commander
Fog vs control is the strangest fight I’ve seen. One puts so much energy into making sure their opponent can’t do anything, meanwhile the fog player doesn’t want to do anything.
"You can't stop me if I'm not moving"
A strange game. The only winning move is not to play.
@@Tiax776 nice quote !
Watching Thoralf gradually descend into cackling madness toward the end of G1 as he realized what was happening was just incredible
It's great to see someone who loves the game so much.
Out of all the games of magic, this was certainly one of them
Truly one the Magic games of all times
Thoralf: I'll just counter all of your important spells, not the card draw.
Carl: Jokes on you, I'm playing win conditionless turbofog, I HAVE NO IMPORTANT SPELLS!
Well it's more like my only important spell has replicate so you can't counter all of them lol
@@v-niftytrickster4166is mindbreak trap legal in this, that exile any number of spells, it's generaly my goto sideboard against storm
MY GRANDPA'S DECK HAS NO IMPORTANT CARDS
@@fractalslothALL MY GRANDPA'S DECK ARE PATHETIC, KAIBA
the confidence that carl displayed when saying "ohh my deck doesnt go off" is gonna be my guiding star for the rest of my life......
Interesting to know that the interview sections are recorded mid game. I would like to personally thank the editor for their work, really helps me understand what's going on as a kitchen table magic enjoyer.
Thank you! :D
I was surprised by that too! It must be tiresome, but it gives so much more realism to your thought process.
Very cool.
I honestly thought they'd just record the game, then later interview each other based on the events of the game, and splice the footage.
Seems easier that way. Uninterrupted game, and uninterrupted interview
Yeah exactly i assumed they recorded the interviews after the game. Cool to see that they aren't
@@JamesThompson-zu3bqif you look at their Behind The Scenes video they do record them after but write notes during the game
I almost threw a brick at my monitor when you let the 5/5 hit you instead of blocking with your 1/3 and zapping it with the four Deserts ... until I remembered that Ward counters abilities and not just spells. Oof. Not that it would have mattered I don't think, but still.
Fun video! I haven't played Magic in quite some time but this format seems like it'd be really fun - tons of otherwise underplayed cards and it seems like the opportunity for solid homebrewing is there!
Honest to god Pauper reinvigorated my love for MTG. Sold/selling all my modern/pio stuff and built a pauper battle box to bring to locals/events.
I love Pioneer... but I'm never going to spend $500 on 75 pieces of cardboard. Pauper is based.
a 52min cardmarket episode of paper magic? It just cant get any better than that!
52 minutes is what playing turbofog gets you ahah.
Ah yes, auger of bolas. Look at the top 3 cards of your library and put them all directly to the bottom of your deck.
It's like scry 3 for the bottom of your library ;)
I appreciate the cuts to where you explain what you are doing/thinking. I'm a new player and this helps me a lot!
Thoralf was such a good sport about losing to Turbo-fog in the first game. A lot of people would be really salty about it, so it's nice to see someone promote healthy sportsmanship against people like me who love Turbo-fog LOL
I havnt finishes the video but how do you win lmfao 😂😂
@@jynx1345 watching the video explains the video XD
yeaeaaaaa i was pretty deep into it and it was showing nothing than it showed lol @@pikadragon2783
honestly have you ever seen Thoralf being salty abount anything? The guy is a personified ray of sunshine!
i mean, what did you expect? They would not upload the video if thoralf somehow gets pissy about a match with no stakes xD
Love your work guys! Who could have guessed that a match between mono blue tempo and turbofog would be so intense and entertaining?
Discarding all the Terrors was kinda weird in game one. He was so interested in figuring out what is going on, that he did not do much to actually win.
did i miss something? after casting his weather the storms he was left with 2 lands and moments peace. he can stall for 2 turns and then starts taking 12 damage because of the terrors if thoralf kept them in hand.
The speed at which you play plus the clarity of your actions, combined with the excellent editing and graphics make this SO pleasant to watch ❤
Thank you :) We put a lot of effort into this series. Happy you enjoy!
Turbofog is truly the deck of gentlemen.
Turbofog is my favorite Archetype
Never heard of it before but excited to see it
@@simplyrin210 I've read turbofrog so i was a bit disappointed instead. But it was an amazing game.
@@simplyrin210 I have a turbo fog edh deck. The most common win condition is to play Glacial Chasm and then cast a Hurricane (or similar) for 40+ mana. There are no infinite combos, but the commander is Sasaya Orochi Ascendant who's flip side makes your mana insane.
@@Fyrefrye Might I recommend Angus McKenzie?
Whoever chose the change in music at 24:06 made an excellent choice. The entire sequence from there was just awesome and the audio choice really helped enhance that!
The counter wars in the second game powering up Weather The Storm is _such_ a cool interaction.
I didn’t know I wanted to build Pauper Turbofog so badly, but I guess you learn something new every day haha
Best 60 card paper game play channel around. Love all the formats
This is the video that changed my mind about this channel. I had thought these guys were just MtG judges or something, but this video shows they're something much greater: friends who passionately love building fun decks and playing their favorite game. I can't wait to see what fun brews you all play in the future!
Turbofog seems like my type of waste of time. Loved it
It’s definitely one of those Ruin your evening dot deck
Yeah, if you haven't reached immortality yet, don't bother playing turbofog
I really appreciate the editing that goes into making these games much more watchable
Ah yes, Pauper, the low-key best format 😁. Thanks so much for this video - just watching it now, but I'm sure it'll be a banger.
I love this match so much. As somebody who piloted all sorts of insane jank at Type 1 tournaments back in the day, I can tell you that doing something completely unexpected has huge value all on its own. It's so easy to lead somebody down the garden path when you're playing something funky. And when they finally realize what's happening, it's too late.
"Oh no, I shouldn't have let you resolve Fluctuator!"
Tough, now I'm drawing my whole deck and locking down every creature you ever play. Game 2?
Wdym unexpected? Both decks shown here have been well known archetypes in the format for years.
"Thoralf, my deck doesn't pop off" never had this much fun watching a game of like control v a deck that wins through the power of stalling alone
This is the most evil Fog deck I've ever seen. Well played!
Explaining the decks at the start of the video the way you guys do is fantastic.
Thoralf with the Survivor bandana AND Carl with the dapper suit 🥵
Loving the work you do. The interludes are nice to know the reasoning it’s a really nice plus. Keep up the good work and that chemistry.
Those are especially interesting because they are all such good players. Their decisions aren't obvious to me from time to time and then hearing their thoughts is soo helpful
I have to agree with Carl, MTGO's time constraints are frustrating sometimes! I'm not looking to rush things. Just enjoy a game of magic.
So happy to see my favorite format on cardmarket. It's so fun to play a format where tap lands are meta. Jeskai ephemerate comes to mind as one of my favorites.
Ow yeah! Some nice Pauper at the end of the day. Especially cool to see Turbo Fog being played. Nice vid as always!
I would love to see you two play more Pauper.
Of course any other format would be welcome as well.
This was really fun, I absolutely love Pauper, more than Modern!
Please more crazy decks!
Really fun to see. Love the chemistry and pauper content is always going to get a view from me! Was really interesting to hear Thoralf's thought process during game one and to see how a Mythic Champ can come back even in an off-meta matchup to scoop up the win. Definitely would love to see more pauper content!
As someone that mainly plays Commander and Pioneer, I will say pauper being so cheap is nice.
This channel is so underrated, i can't believe it only has 50k subs. This channel deserves more love! I would like to see the deck Affinity in modern!
Affinity is actually a great suggestion! :D
Fantastic! Love seeing pauper content especially in paper. Its honestly my favorite format rn
I love how Thoralf's idea of richness seems to be “a scarf around your head”
i think he was trying to look poor? still funny though xD
Didnt he say he wanned to look more “common” or something like that
I’m obsessed with these videos, so fun and good thank you so much, love the commentary as well as the gameplay. I just love that it’s actual paper magic, not just MTGO content like so much else, card sounds are so good.
Thank you :) I'm thrilled that you enjoy them! We put a lot of work into them
Your shows are very nice. You show the hands from all the players at all times. So you can think of what you would in the moment.
That turbo fog was super fun and the video has absolutely sublime editing overall! Love the little sound effects and appreciate the well documented info via an UI.
That being said, as a minor criticism, I think reducing the volume of the music in intense phases would be better. It's a tad too loud und thus distractive for my taste. Another solution would to be to choose a little less hectic and more chill background music. Talking about it, I think some chill music would actually benefit your content in several ways, as your videos tend to appear a bit hectic overall - very fast plays and fast talking. A chill music would even that out a bit. Just my 2 cents though and keep up the great work!
Got to jam some pauper this weekend with a fellow Pauper and Cube enthusiast at my LGS, so it's safe to say I was very happy to see this video.
I misread the title as Turbofrog, and was instantly intrigued. lol
Great video, it was fun to watch, and I love pauper.
I wish it was turbofrog! 🐸🐸🐸
Me Too!
@@CardmarketMagic Just run 4 spore frogs! :D
Love watching you guys play. Also a second vote for U/B faeries in modern when you're looking.
UB Faeries! Second time it's asked for. We'll if this is not a good excuse to play it next, I don't know what is 😃
Would love to see more Pauper from you guys. Never seen paper mtg presented so clearly!
I have no idea if this type of format exists, but I'd love to see one where rarity determines how many of a card you can include in your deck.
E.g. 4 each of commons, 2 each of uncommons, 1 each of rare/mythics.
That's just Hearthstone
@@sefisyara5961 Hearthstone limits you to 2 copies per common, rare or epic and 1 per legendary; and having a card type you can only run one copy of definitely didn't start with Hearthstone (the first CCG I played, Myths and Legends, did this all the way back in 2000, called "unique cards").
Only game that comes to mind with more than two different copies-per-card limitations is Yu Gi Oh, but limited/semi-limited cards are soft-bans rather than rarity-based.
They actually did do that for Magic Duels, don't know how it was received though
This is what actually playing magic looks like!
Truly trading resources and games that go past turn 5.
I played Carl at Spirit of Pauper #1. His charming personality almost made up for sitting through his familiars combos.
Everybody gangsta till the turbofog deck puts 7 stream of thoughts on the stack
This is making me wanna make a pauper deck. The amount of interaction and gameplay felt like more than a game of modern or pioneer
I'd heavily recommend it :) the games are much more interactive and less one-sided
What an intense game, holy cripes! This was genuinely amazing! Slow start of course, but the final few moments of the first match were actually super tense.
edit: Second match was even better than the first! Those counter-chains were juicy!
Oh you like juicy counter chains huh? The pauper subreddit has a long history of top posts involving 12+ card stacks of blue and red elemental blasts and the like; was far more frequent back in the Kiln Fiend days... Point is, Pauper is super sweet and has many very intricate interactions. I think it's the best place to really hone your skill in getting the most out of each of your cards since it's so rare for any single card to win on it's own.
caaarl. Minute 49:30 instead of fogging. block with the augur and kill the serpent with the 4 deserts....maybe that could have changed a lot :D
serpent's got fancy ward, he doesn't have enough mana to get past that
I wish it was an option, but I would have needed one augur, 4 deserts and 8 extra mana to take down one of those snakes through the Ward ability 🥲
The serpent is too strong!!
I hate Moment's Peace. It gives me PTSD, because I once had a friend who would play a lot of fog effects with no real wincon... Yet I thank you for the vid, always a blast to watch!
so the key to playing that deck on modo is, ALWAYS PLAY QUICKLY. you might not be able to win the game before the click times out, but your opponent is likely going to take more actions than you per turn, which means your clock is often ahead of the opponent. ezpz
48:50 lmao, Thoralf 'albur' was so clever.
Excellent match, btw. So well played, I loved seeing you piloting your decks masterfully.
I might try Pauper myself sometime.
Would love to see Caw Gate gameplay!
It sounds like Carl might be interested in some pauper cards I've tried to build around before... but without a group who plays pauper I've not been able to test them.
Palace Guard, Wall of Glare + Ghostly Possession, Inviolability, and Benevolent Blessing
That make a backbone that can simply ignore nearly all combat oriented decks. It's also really cool that Possession can be used as a backup "pacifism" if you're in a pinch to turn off damage from an opponent's largest beater. A few copies of Nimbus wings can also make sure your blockers can deal with fliers as well (in addition to possession).
My favourite line in turbofog is to weather the storm on my opponent's end step, and arcane denial one of the copies, in order to draw 3 extra on my following turn.
I want more of this. Ridiculously ridiculous decks that control your oponent, his whole family and the mortgage on his house. Oh yesss
That was super entertaining! Keep up the grand work, guys 🎉
Something that would help that blue strategy that I've seen is to find a way to shuffle the creatures you bottom around so you can draw them early again, as well as shuffle poor Brainstorm targets. The UB Faeries decklists that I've been eyeing use Evolving Wilds and Ash Barrens's basic landcycling for that purpose.
Feeding the algorithm for that sweet sweet pauper support
Carl, with your deck and your performance, you convinced me of trying into Pauper myself. Your deck is nuts!
As soon as I finished this video I went and made my own version of the turbofog deck and ordered the cards. It seems really fun to play and really annoyed to play against wich is what I like
You won't regret it when you see the look on your opponent's face! :D
Love the intro. Would love to play a game of pauper with Carl tbh
even though this video is a month old i'm commenting here because it's one of my favourites. I'd like to see you two or other members of the cardmarket youtube team
play tiny leaders!
Tiny leaders would be great fun! :D we'll put it on the ideas list!
@@CardmarketMagic awesome! that would make my day
Yoooooo haven't even watched yet but quality pauper content! And its mono blue tempo?? Christmas has come early this year!! Keep it coming!
I like those videos, they are like SPellslingers with Day9, wich made me interested in mtg in the first place
loved the video, the decks and the players, great work!
I still love that a deck called "*Turbo* Fog" is about as slow as a blue player trying to end their turn on Arena
I think in the last game, Carl missed that his Augur of Bolas could have actually killed the snake with 4 deserts up.
Unfortunately, the snake has ward 2, so I would have to have tapped 12 lands to do that 😅
Augur of Bolas which is famously“look at the bottom 3 cards of your deck” is actually doing work here!
I love watching turbo fog! But at the same time it's good to see you can still beat it down somehow
The best feature match so far! The first game was hilarious 😂
I feel like the all-star card here was Deep Analysis. So much of this match was "whoever resolves the most Divinations wins."
Random older video I missed, thx algorithm. I had completely forgotten the Wilhelm screaming thought scours you used to do
I still think the Wilhelm Screem is hilarious but there were too many complaints 😅
"Those decks both sound really slow."
*sees the time stamp*
Yup time to strap in
I'd love to see some pauper commander. I have a pretty gross pirate pauper deck with Breeches and Malcom(uncommon legendaries for the commander) where you just cantrip to find your infinite. Which is kinda contrary to the community for pauper it's very fun though.
"Thoralf, how many cards do you have in your deck?"
"What do you mean 'my deck'?"
These videos are so good, the random Wilhelm scream for the thought scour 🤣
This video is pure magic as Richard intended
Maybe some earlier 1 mana 5/5's would have helped putting more pressure in G1 as there would be enough mana left for some counterspells.
This was such a funny game to watch :D
I'm happy you enjoyed it :) and yes, I think thoralf misread my gameplan 😅
You two would fit so well into Big Bang Theory.
Love pauper, creatively trying to get value from low value cards
Pauper is awesome. One of these days I’ll come up with a version of Torex that doesn’t suck.
Thoralf: Play your first important card
Carl: My deck HAS no important cards, Kaiba
13:05 the dramatic irony is delicious
Love Thoralf rocking the Survivor buff
That was fun and fast paced even though both decks are designed to be played slow af.
Loved this video! Can't wait for more pauper content in the future, it's a format that seems great but I just haven't had much exposure too (although turbofog isn't selling me but I won't hold that against the format lol).
I'd love to see some more legacy. Doomsday is one of my favorite decks of all time and it pretty unique to legacy - but wait, isn't that deck hard to pick up? How will one of the guys learn it for the video? If only there was a known Doomsday player in Berlin that also had experience in front of the camera... Maybe Kai Sawatari knows a guy?
I love the random EDM music that sometimes plays in the back 🤣
This is Europe, you can't avoid it 😅
Oh i just noticed there is a Pauper Video i did not see yet. :)
Very nice you keep playing that great format!. :D
Really nice to see this slow Pauper matchup ^^
Cute how you said sorry to the viewers, but you need to apologize to yourself, you had to edit this video :P
Yes it took so long to edit 😵💫 but it was a lot of fun still because I love turbofog :D
I love turbofog, won't mind daily videos of Carl playing that in all formats ;)
Current prints of Weather the Storm are rare now and for good reason. That card is strong.
The soundboard on this is just great. Hilarious!
The way Thoralf goes "Dont ask like this..." just made me laugh so hard 😂
The battle of Durdles is my absolute favorite.