How Jennifer Jones and David O. Selznick Affair Destroyed a Hollywood Great?

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    📍Many times Hollywood love drowns in tragedy. When two people suddenly find happiness, often one suffers. This was the case with Jennifer Jones and David O. Selznick's love. It had a great cause. And the cause was called Robert Walker.
    Jennifer Jones is an American actress who gained a great reputation in the 1940s - the 1950s. He is the owner of prestigious film awards such as the "Oscar" and the "Golden Globe". Modern film fans will probably know him from "Hell in the sky."
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КОМЕНТАРІ • 244

  • @lindaeasley5606
    @lindaeasley5606 3 роки тому +76

    Selznick cared about Selznick and tore apart other people's lives in the process

    • @susanford2388
      @susanford2388 3 роки тому +6

      Because he could because Hollywood allowed him, sounds like Harvey Weinstein. Hollywood is cut throat. It's all about the money. Throwing people under buses is a past time.

    • @leelarson107
      @leelarson107 2 роки тому +7

      That has been well documented. He's dead and forgotten, but the damage is done.

  • @hestergreen2031
    @hestergreen2031 Рік тому +22

    Very well documented video of Jennifer Jones & Robert Walker, and how David O. Selznick ruined their lives. Thank you for sharing this with all of us here, who enjoys vintage notes.

  • @kaythomas8521
    @kaythomas8521 3 роки тому +41

    Walker was Great actor.....

    • @caspence56
      @caspence56 3 роки тому +13

      I agree. He was fantastic in "Since You Went Away" as a shy and insecure young soldier and just the opposite role as a genuinely evil psychopath in "Strangers on a Train."

    • @lindaanthony7890
      @lindaanthony7890 2 роки тому +2

      He was, I agree. So sad about his breakup it’s Jennifer Jones

    • @themaestroslady1812
      @themaestroslady1812 2 роки тому +3

      His best role was in Strangers on a Train. He's positively creepy as the villain. Gives you goosebumps!

    • @elaineteeter9485
      @elaineteeter9485 2 роки тому +5

      @@caspence56 My favorite of Robert's pictures was The Clock, in which he starred with Judy Garland. At that time he was suffering terribly over the divorce. Judy was so kind and understanding with him. At that time, the sentiment in Hollywood was for Robert Walker and very much against Jennifer Jones. I agree with you; he was a very gifted actor and robbed of all those years of life he should have had with his sons. We won't see his like again.

    • @okyouknowwhatever
      @okyouknowwhatever Рік тому

      @@themaestroslady1812 I think he was in-and-out of mental institutions at the time he did Strangers. So some of that edge is probably real. Not that he was necessarily a psychopath but certainly very fragile and unstable.

  • @Outlier999
    @Outlier999 3 роки тому +37

    Selznick bought her. Walker never had a chance.

    • @elaineteeter9485
      @elaineteeter9485 2 роки тому +6

      Such a heartless woman

    • @Outlier999
      @Outlier999 2 роки тому +4

      @@elaineteeter9485 Her children suffered because of her.

    • @okyouknowwhatever
      @okyouknowwhatever Рік тому +6

      it's incredible the discrepancy in good looks/charm between Walker and Selznick. One is a pretty boy the other pretty much a fat old toad.

    • @justhuy7960
      @justhuy7960 Рік тому +1

      @@okyouknowwhatever fat old toad with power will always work in any era 😂

  • @kmk2451
    @kmk2451 3 роки тому +35

    FYI, the woman pictured at 11:53 minutes into the video is Jean Simmons not Jennifer Jones.

    • @CherylSimser
      @CherylSimser 2 роки тому +5

      @Kathy Kealey I actually haven't seen a video yet where the wrong picture of another actress isn't inserted. I'm beginning to wonder if it's not done intentionally as a sort of game now. It is strange though that I only see it with vids of actresses. Hmm...

    • @davidcouch6514
      @davidcouch6514 Рік тому +4

      I get them confused myself. Good Catch.

    • @brigittebeltran6701
      @brigittebeltran6701 Рік тому +2

      Yes! I noticed this as well....another great brunette beauty of the golden age.

    • @stevensica89
      @stevensica89 11 місяців тому

      Interesting, as a kid I always got them confused, though they don't look all that much alike apart from the short raven black hair.

    • @stevensica89
      @stevensica89 11 місяців тому

      @@CherylSimser I have seen so many of these where the images are poorly matched to the narration, or just plain wrong. I wonder how much car goes into some of these productions. Most memorable one I have seen to date so far is a video about Val Kilmer and Tom Selleck is mistakenly used at least 3 times.
      This one contains a real howler. At 18:16 the narrator mentions three women - Vivian Leigh, Ingrid Bergman and Joan Fontaine. The image is a triptych, BUT ALL 3 images are of Bergmann. Really, what gives?

  • @brigittebeltran6701
    @brigittebeltran6701 Рік тому +20

    Such a tragic life...She was a marvelous actress and one of Hollywood's most beautiful women.

  • @kitkat914
    @kitkat914 2 роки тому +17

    Robert Walker was devastated when Jennifer left him for the much older and unattractive David O. Selznick, Walker never recovered from it!!

    • @sandradee1579
      @sandradee1579 2 роки тому +1

      I think Irene Mayer Selznick didn't either. She wrote a book (a memoir of sorts) about her life as Louis B. Mayer's daughter & David's wife, div etc I believe published circa 70's? I'd like to read it.

    • @kitkat914
      @kitkat914 2 роки тому

      Now that you mention it, I’d like to read it too, I think it’s on Amazon?

    • @chgem.2658
      @chgem.2658 2 роки тому +1

      But the mariage was ended already.

    • @kitkat914
      @kitkat914 2 роки тому

      she was having an affair with Selznick, their marriage ended in 1945, like I said he did NOT recover from the breakup

    • @chgem.2658
      @chgem.2658 2 роки тому

      @@kitkat914 No, they planned to get divorced. The marriage was only on the documents. They separated in 1943.

  • @fob1xxl
    @fob1xxl 2 роки тому +15

    In 1974, I was renting an apartment on DeLongpre in West Hollywood, in a building managed by Irene Mayor, his ex wife. I heard alot of stories !

    • @Missditabomb
      @Missditabomb 2 роки тому +9

      Do tell !!!

    • @elaineteeter9485
      @elaineteeter9485 2 роки тому +8

      I admired Irene Mayer Selznick; a strong and resilient woman who went on to produce A Streetcar Named Desire, among other Broadway hits. She was better off after she kicked Selznick out.

    • @nicolelillis2077
      @nicolelillis2077 Рік тому +3

      I'm fascinated with just reading this little snippet of information.! Yes, Irene would've been a v.strong, self assured women. She was married to a skirt chasing, sleaze bag like Selznick! I guess her self confidence took a hit during her marriage with him though. Fob, you really must have a yt channel dedicated to your time living in a West Hollywood apartment. A bit like Armistead Maupin's - Tales of the City. You can be a modern day Mr/Mrs. Madrigal. Anyway, Fob, greetings from Australia and have a happy new year!

  • @GeneRogers-xl9um
    @GeneRogers-xl9um Рік тому +19

    I read Jones was actually a very nervous and shy woman whom Selznick had to even give alcohol to drink often to get her through a scene. Selznick also depended on his (ex)wife for financial assistance as Selznick was a heavy gambler and was often in debt. He was a brilliant film producer but as a husband quite the contrary! Going after Jones was an easy task but very sad for Robert Walker and the two sons. Walker died young as Selznick eventually died and Jones eventually married Norton Simon a multi millionaire.

  • @chrischris4028
    @chrischris4028 2 роки тому +52

    Jennifer Jones was very fragile, insecure and shy. She was overwhelmed by the emotional difficulties, that plagued Robert Walker. I think Selznick gave her security, a kind of father figure, that she was always looking for. The directors she has worked with confirm how childish she was at times. In any case, I am convinced, that she was not a malicious person. Nevertheless, I feel very sorry for Robert Walker, who had no happy life at all.

    • @okyouknowwhatever
      @okyouknowwhatever Рік тому

      Selznick comes across as a typical fat ugly Hollywood mogul who preys on young actresses, like a Charlie Chaplin or a Harvey Weinstein. Chaplin wasn't necessarily ugly though, at least not when he was younger.

    • @chrischris4028
      @chrischris4028 Рік тому +6

      @@okyouknowwhatever Nevertheless the marriage of JJ and DoS was happy.

    • @KJ-xc6qs
      @KJ-xc6qs 10 місяців тому +5

      Their selfish affair destroyed Robert Walker Sr.

    • @chrischris4028
      @chrischris4028 10 місяців тому +1

      @@KJ-xc6qs I dare not to judge

    • @trefoli
      @trefoli 2 місяці тому

      Selznick was a creep who deserves no sympathy at all in my eyes. He tried locking Shirley Temple in a closet to SA her when she was 17... If that isn't deserving of your judgement I dont know what would be.

  • @ToughXArmy69
    @ToughXArmy69 3 роки тому +40

    Jennifer was great in The Song if Bernadette, Since you Went Away, Duel In the Sun,
    Love is a many splendored thing and one of my favorites Tender is The Night

    • @kaythomas8521
      @kaythomas8521 3 роки тому +5

      Ditto

    • @debbieparenti3998
      @debbieparenti3998 3 роки тому +10

      She was great in all of her movies. One of my favorite actresses.

    • @PungiFungi
      @PungiFungi 2 роки тому +8

      Her work in Portrait of Jennie is amongst her best. Beat the Devil also.

    • @londoncab2814
      @londoncab2814 2 роки тому +4

      Love Letters

    • @GeneRogers-xl9um
      @GeneRogers-xl9um 2 роки тому +4

      @@PungiFungi Loved that film that has an eery but mystical touch with the wonderful Joseph Cotton

  • @Montavanni1
    @Montavanni1 3 роки тому +40

    . . . many inaccuracies and pertinent information missing (including that she died at 90 a very wealthy woman - married to industrialist, Norton Simon) . . . I also suggest whomever puts this together not leave their day job either.

  • @suefox6164
    @suefox6164 3 роки тому +32

    Adultery has caused many a suicide and many a murder. Adultery will indeed push a person over the edge. She a nd Selznick were to blame.

    • @elaineteeter9485
      @elaineteeter9485 2 роки тому +5

      Very well said. Especially true with Robert. He was sensitive and emotional and according to his favorite cousin, Barbara Rabe, his mother was cold and loveless. His father was pleasant to him but neither parent gave him the love and acceptance he so much needed. With Jennifer he believed that he had found the love he had always longed for. Such a tragedy for such a kind and gentle man.

    • @audreydaleski1067
      @audreydaleski1067 2 роки тому

      Jennifer wad suicidal. So was her daughter.its in the genes.

    • @elaineteeter9485
      @elaineteeter9485 2 роки тому +6

      @@audreydaleski1067 Her "suicide attempt" was only to coerce Selznick to leave his wife, Irene, and marry her. He had no desire to marry Jennifer. If you have read anything about Selznick you will learn that he was nothing but a skirt chaser. When he had Dolores Costello, who portrayed Freddie Bartholomew's mother in Little Lord Fauntleroy, he had her alone in his office and ripped down the front of her dress. She then grabbed a vase and smashed it over his head. His reputation was well-known in Hollywood.

  • @marisazavaglia8006
    @marisazavaglia8006 2 роки тому +51

    C’mon..what destroyed Robert Walker was his wife Jennifer Jones choosing Selznick for fame over the family she had with Walker.

    • @brittalbach416
      @brittalbach416 11 місяців тому +5

      but Jennifer was overcome with guilt, when she tried to commit suicide after Selznicks death, she checked into a motel signing in as Phyllis Walker

    • @marylouleeman591
      @marylouleeman591 9 місяців тому +2

      not so simple in real life

    • @chrischris4028
      @chrischris4028 8 місяців тому +3

      He struggled with alcohl during his martiage already. I do not think , that JJ was the main reason.

  • @susanedrington4878
    @susanedrington4878 Рік тому +6

    Robert Walker’s life was ended by his psychiatrist. Not good!!

  • @JudeNance
    @JudeNance 3 роки тому +19

    The narrator does a great job and tells the life of a couple of people. Their lives were ruined 😔

    • @m.m.3238
      @m.m.3238 3 роки тому

      Their lives were Ruined? What the hell??? These two selfish rich people who broke peoples hearts are to be pitied? Youre a Fool!...lol

    • @brittalbach416
      @brittalbach416 2 роки тому +4

      @@m.m.3238 but it was kind of sad, Jennifer never got over the fact that Walker died so early and that David had actually not wanted a divorce from Irene. And David ? Who knows.. He smoked a lot and died relatively early too. Their mutual daughter Jennifer Selznick committed suicide. So yes, we are all human, and we all make mistakes, they probably had second thoughts when it was too late. Besides, Irene had enough and left before the divorce, she was not interested in getting back together, I read her autobiography

    • @Outlier999
      @Outlier999 2 роки тому +5

      @@brittalbach416 They deserved each other and not in a good way.

    • @brittalbach416
      @brittalbach416 2 роки тому +4

      @@Outlier999 yes, I suppose you are right. I loved them both, Jennifer and David and I especially felt sorry for Robert Walker. It shattered him to lose his beloved wife and that she took the 2 sons but that happens a lot to men. May they all rest in peace, the sons still alive, I think. David had 2 boys too

    • @Outlier999
      @Outlier999 2 роки тому +4

      @@brittalbach416 Robert Jr. and Michael are both deceased.

  • @donnarogers7732
    @donnarogers7732 2 роки тому +9

    Jennifer Jones was a very beautiful actress and so very talented . .ALL actors and actresses in the Holden age of Hollywood were under the control of the" studio Bosses"! I always thought the most beautiful actress in Hollywood. She recovered her mental stability and livers long prosperous life.

    • @TheBrownIsland
      @TheBrownIsland 2 роки тому +3

      "Golden Age". Yes, she lived a long and prosperous life to her 90s.

  • @farmerbold1144
    @farmerbold1144 3 роки тому +12

    Excellent presentation and biographical narration of the very famous actress,
    JenniferJones.
    She was one of my all time favorites. Back then, movies on the "silver screen" were bigger than life.
    Thank you.
    (PS: Some comments by know-it-all's are mean and captious.)

    • @vintagehollywoodarchive
      @vintagehollywoodarchive  3 роки тому +5

      Thank you so much Bold Farmer! 🙂

    • @Outlier999
      @Outlier999 2 роки тому +5

      And some are accurate. Being a good actor doesn’t make you a good person. Facts are facts.

  • @Michaela1942
    @Michaela1942 3 роки тому +13

    P l e a s e! This is overly melodramatic silliness. As someone who was in "the biz" for25 years, this makes me ill.

    • @kellybrown685
      @kellybrown685 3 роки тому +2

      Well, when you have an "agenda" before you even start doing your research....

  • @joevald3
    @joevald3 2 роки тому +11

    Jennifer Jones ! Made some of the best movies ever . She was the heavy even when she starred with such stars as Gregory Peck . You will never see anyone with her talent in this lifetime . She was beautiful but the most important thing she was clearly a good actress . She played a little girl who saw the blessed Mary . You totally believed every minute of it. Then she would play a Western where she was a daughter of an Indian . Who was seduced by Gregory Peck . She was so good it actually shook all her fans . No no I won't hear that she had any weaknesses .............................

  • @wilburbonzo
    @wilburbonzo 3 роки тому +9

    11:42 that's Jean Simmons, not Jennifer Jones

  • @lisarall9973
    @lisarall9973 10 місяців тому +2

    This sounds like AI run amok.

  • @LaurenceDay-d2p
    @LaurenceDay-d2p 5 днів тому

    Without Selznick, Jennifer would not have had a career. Selznick's addiction to benzedrine killed him at age 63, alas. Jennifer was miscast in FAREWELL TO ARMS, which was Selznick's last film. He was the classic Hollywood egomaniac, but he made some fine films, as well as some stinkers - as all producers did.

  • @mrconstable1908
    @mrconstable1908 3 роки тому +4

    The relentless images showing, Subscribe, and the Bell, are juvenile and very annoying !

    • @leelarson107
      @leelarson107 2 роки тому

      Be sure to thank them for the free viewing.

  • @renatatarnawski5974
    @renatatarnawski5974 11 місяців тому +1

    JJ played the long game
    Instead of being Super Ambitious
    She acted sweet and let David lead

  • @garrettdavis6500
    @garrettdavis6500 3 роки тому +11

    Hey, atleast he did marry her. Not just a casting couch cutie.

    • @elaineteeter9485
      @elaineteeter9485 2 роки тому

      He married her after his wife threw him out and Jennifer overdosed on sleeping pills. He was always a skirt-chaser, that was well known in Hollywood.

    • @Outlier999
      @Outlier999 2 роки тому

      He actually didn’t want to but his wife Irene had finally had enough.

  • @theinkbrain
    @theinkbrain 3 роки тому +30

    This guy drones on and on and on. Like all deathly bores he is in love with his own boring voice.

    • @laraegodwin6008
      @laraegodwin6008 3 роки тому +2

      Sadly yes

    • @JudeNance
      @JudeNance 3 роки тому +3

      If you can't say anything nice then just be quiet. Your opinion isn't the only one that matters.

    • @theinkbrain
      @theinkbrain 3 роки тому +2

      @@JudeNance Follow your own advice you hypocrite. Looking for a single f**k to give for your opinion but having no luck. And btw, your opinion matters least of all.

    • @myjeevie
      @myjeevie 2 роки тому +1

      @@theinkbrain
      Very rude. You may notice people don't always like being around you with with an attitude like this.

    • @theinkbrain
      @theinkbrain 2 роки тому

      @@myjeevie You must be describing yourself. You may have noticed that in addition to being rude and blind to your own faults, you are judgemental and stupid.

  • @jenlambie14
    @jenlambie14 Рік тому +2

    So many inaccuracies coupled with that silly over dramatic robotic narration made it impossible to watch. No sub here 😑

  • @arlenewitt248
    @arlenewitt248 3 роки тому +14

    The story got much better once you quit trying to speak in overly flowering speech and just told the story.

    • @Traci.Johnson.Francisco
      @Traci.Johnson.Francisco 2 роки тому +3

      Exactly! The beginning was really hard to follow. Just stick with facts and follow a time line. You're not writing for a Pulitzer or Nobel prize.

    • @ccmarcum
      @ccmarcum Рік тому

      @@Traci.Johnson.Francisco I believe it qualified as ''purple prose.''

  • @kaythomas8521
    @kaythomas8521 3 роки тому +5

    Aw C'mon. Same ol same ol excuses over these Hollywood stars behaviors. Too many put in the same boat ......the price you have to pay for stardom

    • @kaythomas8521
      @kaythomas8521 3 роки тому +2

      Dreams of Fame. Turning into nightmares.....nuff said

  • @deadandburied7626
    @deadandburied7626 Рік тому +4

    Selznick wanted Vivien Leigh but she was with Laurence Olivier, so he chose JJ who looked a lot like VL.

    • @NerdNest0
      @NerdNest0 Рік тому +2

      That is exactly what I have heard too. She looks a lot like Vivien and Jean Simmons.

  • @Imke-be2jg
    @Imke-be2jg Рік тому +1

    Love the film duel in the sun!

    • @Kuulei265
      @Kuulei265 7 місяців тому

      Yes. Gregory Peck was hot, hot, hot in that. You could feel the tension whenever he did a scene with Jennifer.

  • @kellybrown685
    @kellybrown685 3 роки тому +10

    This video is embarrassingly BAD. Your personal bias is profoundly disturbing

  • @melissalove2463
    @melissalove2463 2 роки тому +1

    13.25 I think Robert looks a bit like the actor who played Eddie Haskell in the series leave it to beaver here !

  • @RepentfollowJesus
    @RepentfollowJesus Рік тому

    The title isnt a question. Why the question mark?

  • @celenacasciani8500
    @celenacasciani8500 3 роки тому +7

    This article states she was an only child, but I had read somewhere that she was the sister of Carolyn Jones who played Mortisha in The Monsters and I thought they had a resemblance.
    I guess the article was untrue based on this story

    • @MsVanorak
      @MsVanorak 3 роки тому +4

      but her real name was isley but i think she did have a sibling and they started their careers together as a stage act - not sure.

    • @brittalbach416
      @brittalbach416 2 роки тому +5

      @@MsVanorak Phyllis Isley yes but I think she was an only child and her parents were actors in a travelling show

    • @TrangPakbaby
      @TrangPakbaby 2 роки тому +4

      She was an only child

    • @susanedrington4878
      @susanedrington4878 Рік тому +2

      No!!

  • @kaythomas8521
    @kaythomas8521 3 роки тому +2

    Jennifer Jones. And Jeanne Simmons. Always got them confused. ...both great actresses

    • @kaythomas8521
      @kaythomas8521 3 роки тому +1

      They even looked alike

    • @leelarson107
      @leelarson107 2 роки тому

      Jones was an opportunist. Simmons did nude scenes.

    • @NerdNest0
      @NerdNest0 Рік тому

      Yes. They look alike. That is why Selznick fell in love with her since He was obsessed with Vivien who also looks similar to them.

  • @julietteyork6293
    @julietteyork6293 8 місяців тому +1

    Am I the only one who found her voice and speech impediment hard to listen to?

  • @markheller1382
    @markheller1382 3 роки тому +8

    Terrible hackneyed writing...what crap. So many mistakes. Don't quit your day job!

    • @Montavanni1
      @Montavanni1 3 роки тому +1

      . . . exactly! Can NOT believe how stupid and inaccurate these are - actually could be construed as laughable.

    • @sandisteinberg731
      @sandisteinberg731 2 роки тому +1

      @@Montavanni1 Also repetitive and breaking the chronological narrative.

  • @lindagibbs428
    @lindagibbs428 10 місяців тому

    She was gorgeous and her husband Robert Walker was a handsome, but mentally fragile man

  • @bindilove3899
    @bindilove3899 3 роки тому +2

    She reminds me of Joan Collins.

  • @pattyperkins5007
    @pattyperkins5007 10 місяців тому

    Oh boy

  • @faymoore7714
    @faymoore7714 3 роки тому +3

    Let us not totally blame bob. Obviously it was. His wife . And Selznick. Sh e only wanted fame . And he just wanted and only wanted to assuage hid power and greed.

    • @chrischris4028
      @chrischris4028 2 роки тому

      She was overwhelmed by the emotional difficulties that plagued Robert Walker. I think Selznick gave her security, a kind of father figure that she was always looking for. The directors she has worked with confirm how childish she was at times. in any case, I am convinced that she was not a malicious person

  • @rubymcclain5078
    @rubymcclain5078 3 роки тому +7

    Sounds as if Robert was bipolar 😞

    • @elaineteeter9485
      @elaineteeter9485 2 роки тому +5

      Robert Walker was a sensitive and vulnerable man who had his heart broken by the one person in life he thought loved him as much as he loved her. The book, "Star-Crossed," by Beverly Linet, tells the life stories of Robert Walker, Jennifer Jones and Selznick. Robert was in no respect bipolar. After the divorce he suffered greatly from depression and was treated at the Menninger Clinic. After he recovered, he starred in Strangers On A Train, in which he gave what many believe was his greatest role: that of Bruno Antony.

    • @okyouknowwhatever
      @okyouknowwhatever Рік тому

      women in general are turned off my vulnerable and emotional men. they want powerful and confident men, or at least men who outwardly display these characteristics. women, or rather their psyches/biology, are a lot more cold and calculating than people want to admit. robert walker had an artists soul and most women don't like that, they like one-dimensional stereotypical men who mirrors themselves on the other side of the spectrum.

    • @susanedrington4878
      @susanedrington4878 Рік тому

      Please do not diagnose him!

  • @Dr.Pepper001
    @Dr.Pepper001 3 роки тому +3

    An 18 minute video that could have been 8 minutes long.

  • @MadawaskaObservatory
    @MadawaskaObservatory 10 місяців тому

    this interpretation is sooooooooooo patriarchal. as if she had no part in the relationship !!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

  • @deborahbenefiel9783
    @deborahbenefiel9783 10 місяців тому

    Really crappy narration..." The beautiful people, gossipy polemics" cmon ...

  • @montseargemi1922
    @montseargemi1922 2 роки тому

    Español?

  • @chokkan7
    @chokkan7 Рік тому +4

    The robotic voiceover on this really completely undermines any historical value it might have otherwise held; the fact that Selznick initiated an affair with his new starlet despite the fact that she was otherwise happily married is not a minor detail. Granted, the decision to embark upon a sexual relationship with Selznick was ultimately hers, and Hollywood at that time (as now) was not a place of sexual equality, but to proceed from an assumption that this was 'all about true love'? Got a bridge you'd like to sell me? This entire video was nothing more than the work of a paid shill, hired to put an acceptable sheen upon a sordid little scandal of a bygone era. The pathetic attempt to somehow blame the entire matter upon Robert Walker is so self-serving as to require no further comment.

  • @jimmydaves
    @jimmydaves 3 роки тому +42

    I read that Jennifer Jones was also famous for her parties. Apparently, she would circulate at the party at the start - for a couple of hours - looking incredible. Then around 3 p.m. she would go up to her room - take a 2 hour nap - wake up - take a shower - have her makeup and hair done again - and then put on an exact duplicate of the dress she had worn earlier that day and then rejoin the party in the evening! None of the guests knew this and would marvel at how "fresh" and beautiful she still looked after all those hours.

    • @Outlier999
      @Outlier999 2 роки тому +16

      And they didn’t even notice she was gone.

    • @TheBrownIsland
      @TheBrownIsland 2 роки тому +6

      @@Outlier999 Those parties are huge and crowded. They probably figured she was mingling with guests or stepped out to get something for the Party.

    • @Outlier999
      @Outlier999 2 роки тому +5

      @@TheBrownIsland I believe it.

  • @tomahawk1556
    @tomahawk1556 2 роки тому +16

    1950s & 1960s Actors were So Classy! Love watching these Era movies just to learn about the Aura of that time! Thank You So Much for Sharing! Stay Safe! 🌷🌿🌍💖

  • @billgrey
    @billgrey 3 роки тому +18

    One of those photos was Jean Simmons..... not Jennifer. But a good history, nevertheless.

    • @laraegodwin6008
      @laraegodwin6008 3 роки тому +1

      There were some flaws so I wonder how much to believe

    • @poetcomic1
      @poetcomic1 3 роки тому +3

      At least it wasn't Jean Stapleton..

    • @janicehurst8605
      @janicehurst8605 3 роки тому +1

      I think that there might have been two photos of Jean Simmons in this episode 🤔

  • @krystallovesclassics508
    @krystallovesclassics508 3 роки тому +9

    Why are you trying ( and failing ) to paint Robert Walker as some kind of monster.

  • @ccmarcum
    @ccmarcum Рік тому +6

    Nobody has mentioned her speech impediment........

  • @brucehughes9106
    @brucehughes9106 3 роки тому +21

    She had a great life from 1971 on a good husband who was worth 10 billion.

    • @Outlier999
      @Outlier999 2 роки тому

      It was better than she deserved.

    • @brigittebeltran6701
      @brigittebeltran6701 Рік тому +3

      Yes! I was a house guest of publisher Norman Cousins and his wife Eleonor when they received a phone call from Norton Simin who announced his marriage to "a Hollywood actress named Jennifer Jones." They were Honeymooning off the coast of Spain...on a Yacht. I was thrilled!

  • @Darrigrande
    @Darrigrande Рік тому +6

    She was stunningly beautiful and an incredible actress. My favorite actress of the golden age of Holywood. In that time "Tinseltown" was full of blondies, but there was only one JJ!

  • @jessyeroux5899
    @jessyeroux5899 2 роки тому +14

    I Thought She Was A Excellent Actress ! Loved The 🌹🕊Song Of Beradette🕊🌹& ♥️ Portrait Of Jennie & ♥️Joseph Cotton ‼️ , I’m So Glad She Lived & Pray She Was Better After Hollywood That Was A Omen ‼️♥️

  • @keitheldershaw9428
    @keitheldershaw9428 3 роки тому +4

    The life of such a reserved and private person as Jones is utterly riven by the overweening drivel of the narration. The metaphors come down as the adjectives throw up. Take some diction lessons.

  • @kelloggs5473
    @kelloggs5473 3 роки тому +9

    Louis B. Mayer’s last name is correctly pronounced May - er. The narrator screws it up. Also, the narrator relies heavily on speculation. Jennifer Jones was not a mean person or a destructive person. David Selznick was not an ignorant fool. Gone With The Wind was his project. Oh , that’s right, it’s not politically correct these days. So Selznick was a bad person.

    • @crewshaw2122
      @crewshaw2122 2 роки тому

      He was a scumbag who stole another man! Gone with the wind puts the same tired story of fools fighting to keep blacks as slaves! To me the Hitler Autobiography as a twin! Jones was the typical casting couch bimbo was screws the boss to get ahead! Walker was the true victim! Political Correctness indeed

    • @Outlier999
      @Outlier999 2 роки тому +1

      She left a good husband for a rich one who didn’t really want to marry her. The suicide of Robert Walker Sr. was partly her doing. She may not have been intentionally mean or destructive but that’s what resulted from her self-centered behavior.

    • @chrischris4028
      @chrischris4028 2 роки тому +2

      @@Outlier999 Jennifer Jones was a very shy human being and she was overwhelmed by the emotional difficulties, that plagued Robert Walker. I think, Selznick gave her security, a kind of father figure that she was always looking for. The directors she has worked with confirm how childish she was at times. in any case, I am convinced that she was not a malicious person.

    • @justhuy7960
      @justhuy7960 Рік тому

      True I don't believe in any case Jennifer was a bad person, can't say the same about David Selznick

    • @thinktankcritic5267
      @thinktankcritic5267 10 місяців тому

      Don’t blame JJ for leaving her unstable husbands… Every woman deserves and craves stability! It’s her birthrite! Giving birth and rearing children DEMANDS it! Women have a lot more to loose in unstable relationships than men! Facts

  • @nunyabeezwacks1408
    @nunyabeezwacks1408 3 роки тому +12

    “Any competent psychologist would know…”
    How the hell would YOU know? I quit watching after hearing that.

  • @anthonyflint7419
    @anthonyflint7419 3 роки тому +11

    These film moguls and how they abused these female actresses. Real predators and notice all from a certain religious demographic.

    • @barbarawebb7185
      @barbarawebb7185 2 роки тому

      Yeah, notice all the pedophile priests are all from a certain religious demographic.

    • @leelarson107
      @leelarson107 2 роки тому +1

      You noticed that, eh? It's part of a long pattern.

  • @chetanjoshi2159
    @chetanjoshi2159 10 місяців тому +2

    Sad. I have no words. Really hard to find the truth. No comment.

  • @lindaanthony7890
    @lindaanthony7890 2 роки тому +10

    She was a great actress. I read a bio of her and Walker.

    • @GeneRogers-xl9um
      @GeneRogers-xl9um 2 роки тому +3

      She died as I remember around 90 years old living with her son Robert Walker Jr. living in Malibu, California. She was a beautiful woman and great actor

    • @brittalbach416
      @brittalbach416 2 роки тому +2

      @@GeneRogers-xl9um she lived with her son? thank you for the info

    • @barbarawelcome3373
      @barbarawelcome3373 2 роки тому +2

      @@GeneRogers-xl9um 0l

  • @VTMCompany
    @VTMCompany Рік тому +1

    11:52 This is Jean Simmons!

  • @chgem.2658
    @chgem.2658 3 місяці тому

    Just read the biography of Jones. She was a true lady, donated and helped mental ill people.

  • @moviemonster2083
    @moviemonster2083 10 місяців тому

    Wow, what a lot of rumor-based nonsense is this? It's just a very predictable story in at least a few ways; a showgirl marries a Moghul and abandons her lesser husband and makes it big. She's still a mixed-up suicidal actress but she made her bed and she owns it now. She made her choices and had to deal with consequences, just like the rest of us. And Robert Walker was a mixed-up actor. His sensitivity was not Selznick's fault, either. The irony here is that Selznick was trying to make her 'a star' and it more or less worked, but it was a Pyrrhic victory and she was still unhappy, just like Kane's second showgirl wife in 'Citizen Kane'. The marriage would end up lasting, so you can't write this off as a tragedy or failure. It's only another showbiz story and human drama. Why all the hyperbole? No one here is a total villain or victim, just shades of grey. We've become so judgmental, lately. You better hope YOUR eventual judges are kinder to you. Do you live your life in a particularly moral way that is considerate to other people and always thinks of their welfare? I highly doubt it. Or are you like most of the rest of us and just go along, conforming, doing things to benefit yourself, being insensitive to others, denying your bad acts and calling yourself 'the victim'? Think about it before judging others. And worry more about not being one of those you would judge so harshly. If enough of us did that, it would be a much better human experience.

  • @elaineteeter9485
    @elaineteeter9485 2 роки тому +11

    Jennifer Jones was a coldly ambitious woman whose only concern was reaching stardom no matter whom she hurt. Robert Walker adored her and yet she cast him aside for Selznick. Selznick made her a star, but at the price of the destruction of the boy who had loved her since their AADA days. Robert had never seen the icy ambition which allowed her to break Robert's heart. She left him without a backward glance. There was room for only one person in her life and that was herself. Robert adored her and their two boys: Robert and Michael. Jennifer's only love was for herself. Deliberate cruelty toward one who loves you is the one unforgivable thing. Robert, Jr was the image of his father. How must she have felt, seeing Robert, Jr grow into Robert's son, knowing how she had destroyed the sweet and vulnerable man. Her coldness toward the sweet man who adored her is heartbreaking.

    • @brittalbach416
      @brittalbach416 2 роки тому +3

      Elaine teeter: dont judge so harshly. After David's death, Jennifer tried to take her own life, was rescued and she called herself Phyllis Walker. You dont know if she didnt have great regrets over her decisions. Yes she was ambitious but you have to understand too, when you marry so young and then you meet an older man and discover that you prefer older men and that David adored her and could further her career, she fell. A mistake, a sin certainly, but we all make mistakes. In David's ex-wife Irene Selznicks book she describes how Jennifer begged her to take David back as he was not happy, that "he loves you", she was so unhappy, tried to throw herself out of Irene's taxi. You know God forgives when you feel sorry, also Jennifer's daughter with David committed suicide too, so you could say Jennifer had to pay dearly for her decision to wed David.

    • @Outlier999
      @Outlier999 2 роки тому +3

      @@brittalbach416 I understand and respect your opinion but the general consensus of most film historians is that Selznick bought her. How much of her “regret” was real and how much was show is now known only to God. She and Selznick were married 16 years before he died and she spent the rest of her life alone. I think we should all let God be the judge, one way or another. My bad. Someone just told me she found another rich sucker before she died. Big deal. He thought he had a trophy wife and all he had was a used door prize.

    • @brittalbach416
      @brittalbach416 2 роки тому +1

      @@Outlier999 Bought her? But yes, God alone should judge as He alone knows every heart and since He told us not to judge, that is true

    • @Outlier999
      @Outlier999 2 роки тому +1

      @@brittalbach416 There are many ways to buy a person even today, but I am referring to the times people sell themselves. You yourself admitted that one reason she went with Selznick was because of what he could do for her career, something he pushed constantly. I am not saying that I would not be tempted under similar circumstances. “We have all sinned, and failed in the sight of God.” That’s why judgments in non-criminal matters should be left to Him. As for crimes, that’s why we have courts of law.

    • @brittalbach416
      @brittalbach416 2 роки тому

      @@Outlier999 yes true. But I guess she loved David too, I found him quite fascinating, also after reading Irene Mayer Selznicks biography. He probably cheated before but Irene was definitely tired of marriage, she didnt encourage David to change his ways

  • @Chutney1luv
    @Chutney1luv 3 роки тому +13

    What a sad life to be pulled from your husband and two sons, by an affair; to not be remembered! She lived a long time with an aching heart and soul! Regrets, she had many! Good review of Jennifer Jones life!

    • @debbieparenti3998
      @debbieparenti3998 3 роки тому +7

      Sounds like she was a bit fragile and vulnerable. The type that powerful men like Selznik like to prey upon and control.

    • @elaineteeter9485
      @elaineteeter9485 2 роки тому +3

      @@debbieparenti3998 she was anything but fragile. She went for Selznick because he was powerful and she was ambitious. She left Robert Walker and her sons without a backward glance. Tried for years to steal Selznick from his wife, even "attempted suicide" to get him to marry her. Finally Irene Mayer Selznick had enough and threw him out. Jones and Selznick were made for each other. Robert Walker and their two boys were the victims.

    • @debbieparenti3998
      @debbieparenti3998 2 роки тому

      @@elaineteeter9485 i really shouldn't voice my opinion on people I don't know, so you could be right. And it does take 2 to have an affair. I feel sorry for her husband and children . Robert Walker was also a very good actor.

    • @chrischris4028
      @chrischris4028 2 роки тому

      @@elaineteeter9485 She was very fragile, shy and insecure, overwhelmed by the emotional difficulties that plagued Robert Walker. I think Selznick gave her security, a kind of father figure, that she was always looking for. The directors she has worked with confirm how childish she was at times. In any case, I am convinced, that she was not a malicious person

    • @mshamptonian
      @mshamptonian 2 роки тому

      She brought all that on herself by her choices.

  • @JacQues58
    @JacQues58 3 роки тому +5

    I never found her attractive and never thought her a competent actress. After watching this video, I loathe her even more. She did not deserve the Oscar for that lacking movie. I was glad to see her die in The Towering Inferno. Her funniest role was Pearl in A Duel In The Sun.

    • @elaineteeter9485
      @elaineteeter9485 2 роки тому +4

      She also made an atrocious picture in 1969 called "Cult of the Damned," also known as 'Angel, Angel Down We Go." In this film her character says this line: "I've made thirty stag films and never faked an orgasm." Quite a comedown from playing Bernadette. The LA Times called the film, "A terrible piece of trash."

    • @brittalbach416
      @brittalbach416 2 роки тому +2

      I found her very beautiful and she was a good actress too. Her best friend Anita Colby said she was very caring about other people and would visit them when they were ill and bring thoughtful gifts and be very generous and considerate. In her personal life, she made grave mistakes and yes, also hurt others, but who has not done that and lived to regret it later on ?