Old vintage tractor..will it run after many years? - Vice Grip Garage EP43
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- Опубліковано 6 лют 2025
- This old Minneapolis Moline M602 tractor has been sitting for a long time. It only makes sense that I go unprepared to work on reviving it after many years. Do you think it will start? This old tractor has lots of character, and sure gives a guy a big fight! It clearly needed an ignition rebuild, but of course, I didn't have all the parts. The updraft carburetor also needs a rebuild. Who do you think will win?
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This is a fantastic reminder of why I'm addicted to VGG. Even though all of the new content keeps me hooked, I so enjoy the classic episodes like this one. God Bless!
Your phrases are second to none.... “beat on more than a cabin screen door” and “I’d rather low crawl though barbed wire in a hail storm”...... 😂
“People are afraid to fail... You’ll never know unless you get out there and try”
Warmed my blood pump.
"blood make-it-happener", surely. :)
Same here, you mix humor, with ASMR, and a touch of life lessons, and you have a recipe for the greatest youtuber of all time.
Dude,you gave a new fan. I just keep watching. I hope you get some type of compensation from sponsors or what not. You're one of the few on youtube that deserve it. There are no failures just life lessons. Yeah ,I know ,corny. Love the videos bro.
Thank you, appreciate that!
Great words of wisdom at the end. If more people were like you. We wouldn't see so many old cars. Sitting in barns, fields, front yards, etc. Just wasting away to nothing.
The #1 reason for that is the cry of every lazy fat boomer in the world - "more than it's worth". "I was buying these cars in 1962 and they were only $300, now it costs $200 for a set of tires 60 years later! more than its worth!" and then the car sits and wastes away while they leave it rot away out of spite and ignorance of time dilation.
a guy wasnt prepared for that little speech there at the end
I know right.
Yeah, that hit me where I live too. Derek's doin' the Lord's Work, one sparkolator at a time.
@@zephead843 LOL Well said man !!!!!!!!!!!!!!! Derek is the man !!!
A Guy choked up a little bit
A guy kinda got hit hard deep down in there by dereks speech.
Nothing I have has spark or brakes. But they've got plenty of oil leaks!
Haha.. i hear ya
If you have good equipment and its not leaking oil then its not running
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If it aint leakin theres no oil in it!
@@andyreid7274 are we talkin about harleys or triumphs?
I bought a Minneapolis Moline that a broken seat so I mounted the front part of an old horse saddle I had laying around to sit on until I got a different seat. I was out bouncing around on it in the field when my wife walked out and wanted to try it. So she got on it and went bouncing along and after a few minutes, she had this silly smile on her face. She rode it till the dang thing ran out of gas and then dragged me into the house and it wasn't even Saturday night. The next day I painted the name For Play above the Minneapolis moline on the hood.
I'm A city fella but every summer as a kid id go live out on my aunt's farm in the country...they had a 1948 John Deere tractor(I forget what model...it was big! 😂) still in service and it was the late 80s...first thing I ever learned to drive lol they gave me an old broken briggs and stratton riding mower and a tool set to tinker with....suprised my uncle's when i figured out how to get her running again...took the blades off and all that stuff and used it to get around the farm to do my various chores....she had 18 horses ...fun times!!!!
Something ablaut the smell of old tractors instantly take me back to my grandfather's tractor garage 60 years ago. I LOVE that smell!
“We are gonna do the right thing and Pretend we looked at em”. Classic.
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I've eye grinded many pilot bearings in the past. Never fails to fail but is very cheap.
A true/honest mechanic would have not have lied, nor any other trade. shame on you. your the reason people stay away from slack ass mechanics like you.
ted a he is a farm technician that’s how we fix stuff when something blows up fix it to the best of your ability with baling wire and run till it blows up again then maybe fix it with proper parts
@@TheTed169 The guy makes videos just to piss guys off like you.
That voiceover at the end was so amazing. Kind of reminds me of that Bear outdoors guy mixed in with a little Bushradical.
Where they say some positive words to encourage a guy who's down, down on his luck. Can't believe I waited so long to see this.
Revivals will still be my favorite. Even if they don't turn out to be happy endings. Life's like that. Doesn't always work out.
My brother had a MM M670. spent quite a lot of time working with and on that beast. He's passed now, and the farm is gone, but seeing these old tractors brings back memories.
Dad's favorite tractor, a MM UB diesel,, one year started loosing coolant, Pa said think it's head gasket, soon as we're done it's rebuild time for that one, of course as soon after done filling silo started fall plowing, after milking one nite thought got enough time to finish that one field, in my hurry didn't top radiator, made one round and it made a pop snap noise,,, and stopped, walked home told pa we unhooked plow dragged it home to the shop,, 2 days later picked up a 1066 with a 5-18 plow, took me 6 months to find a head for the mm ub diesel,,, but Dad kept the mm ub right up till we were done farming, in fact it was the last piece of machinery sold
Those plugs probably have big black caterpillars on them. Too bad, I hate when one part costs more than the tractor. The electrical department was not helping to run to the fullest either. I do the same evaluation, turn over then fuel then redue entire electric system. Helps when I go to therapy. LOL
I know I'm about 6 months late but that was a nice little speech at the end. Watching these videos is what's got me thinking I can fix my grandpa's '79 Chevy C10 250ci. I'd like to keep it as original as possible and give it to my uncle. He'd really appreciate since he has more memories with it than I do.
As someone still learning about engines and mechanic work, I appreciate you giving more explanation in this one. About half of what I know about engines now comes from watching your
videos.
Awesome, that's great to hear
@@ViceGripGarage and just a little concerning 😅
@@ViceGripGarage Agreed! Love your vids, I really enjoyed the teaching moments!
Thanks!
Another awesome video man sen almost all of them now I lsike the goofy light heartedness of the issues that come up that suck, fixing things can be really frustrating but you can tell you know your shit and seem to enjoy it. Always awesosme content. Keep kickin names and takin ass man.
Can’t wait no one gets them running like you! I especially love it when you start throwing parts you don’t need
I was really looking forward to seeing you make the 3 hour drive home on this bad boy after a good burnout 😋
Omg, I literally lol'ed
I too, am disappointed.
Ah a trip down memory lane. This was the very first video of yours that I watched many moons ago, back when I first started getting into car UA-camrs.
It’s amazing to see how far you’ve come.
“Get off your butt, get out there, and start spinning wrenches.” That’s great, Derek!! I love getting out in my shop and getting dirty. I introduced that to my boys at a young age, and they both decided to go to tech school. One is an aircraft mechanic and the other is an HVAC tech.
We love trades work at our house - guys like us will always have a job!! Thanks for all the great content, totally enjoying your channel!!
The descriptive whistling gets me every time.
Love these old tractors got no use for one but buying one tomorrow was my pops an ol 52 Ford
You gave it a valiant effort most people would not have even attempted to tackle on such a huge project, so i give you two thumbs up my brother👍🏽👍🏽
Grew up on a farm in Georgia during 80's. Put a many miles/hours on a 1970 John Deere 4020 with duals and cab. We row cropped. Georgia had 3 consecutive summers of drought...difficult time. But, many great memories and life lessons learned. My Grandaddy set me on the right path for life.
Got my Dodge coronet back on the road after 6 years of sitting. Like I said in another video of yours you got me motivated again to spin the wrenches. I have another car that has been sitting since 2010 I need to fire up again. Thanks for the kick in the butt to get them rolling again.
Yin & yang, that’s the beauty of life.. Solid episode my cousin, doing me a proud
Thanks Matt - miss all ya'll over there!
IrishStew That is success - gettin’ shut runnin’ is just gravy, eh.
Cheers from yer inbred, mouth breathin’ cousins From CANADA 🇨🇦
You sir are a diamond in the rough!! I appreciate all you are doing , and wish you the best in the future. This is good ole fun and instructional as well. You have a GREAT attitude and definitely know what you are doing. Keep up the great work!! New subscriber here and I'm going to tell all my friends to check you out as well!!
Thank you for subscribing I really appreciate it!
I love VGG and I love MM tractors.
This might be my favorite VGG episode ever.
Way I was taught, you use about 1/4 to 1/3 third throttle, no choke, spin it over and as it spins, pull choke out, it will fire a couple times and you push it in half way to let it start, then idle it down. Of course, you are in the middle of a rescue mission and having other issues. Loving watching you work. Everybody has different tricks, I am appreciating watching.. I had a Minnie Mo, a great beast. It was very reliable.
Old tractors are temperamental. Helped my father rebuilt a 1939 farmall. The starter was shot so we had to use the handcrank ! Fond memories... please keep making these videos. Best on Utube !!!
Love the end speech mate, very true. Good vid
Thanks Mike
I watch to enjoy the comedy! You are a natural.
Thanks Bill
“Your never guna know unless you just try, so get off your butt, get out there and start spinning wrenches” spoken like a good man and a great dad
You brought back many memories of me working on my dad's 8 and 9 ford and jubilee . Many times the line from glass bowl to carb would clog up. Thanks for the memories. I am 70 now.
My Grandfather had an M602 it ran ok but it always sputtered some especially on cold damp days. Uncle Gary was a mechanic and he couldn't completely get it either. I remember him cutting a rubber glove to cover the distributor cap. Once it really warmed up, it was great.
I don't know about everyone else on here I love to see a MASTER at work!👍
"not sure where I am. I keep hearin' dirt bikes and someone sightin' in a rifle." Yeah, that's America. Or heaven with a tractor to fix.
Not just America your red headed stepchild to the North is just the same lol
@@seancusteau8144 Oh, Canada... :)
And of course I cut my finger down to hip bone....hilarious!
Beautiful words, my friend.
@Colin Killian If you say so. 🙄
He’s like the Bob Ross of cars
Thank you
@@ViceGripGarage I was gonna go with Red Green meets Will Ferrel. :)
The Abandoned South that’s what they say about the car Wizard
Happy little guy
@@BillSeipel Red Green is the vibe I got as well.
Keep your stick on the ice. ;D
I’ve started up a couple MM tractors that haven’t ran in 20 years, it’s a super difficult process, first you must have a couple hot batteries, then add fuel. Followed by completing these two important factory’s you must kick the piss out of the starter button because it’s full of rust, and some home with luck and Gypsy’s magic, the rust in the start button with become conductive and it will crank in the first couple spins. These tractors were build incredibly well. My family has owned a MM dealer since 1950!
Nice to hear that mean ole beast trying to crack off and run again. little more TLC and it’ll make a good ole tractor for somebody. I had my old Ferguson over 50 years and it runs like a champ. It made lots of good memories through out the years. good job Derek 👍
My 1953 MM UB gasser had the same trouble. Your fuel line needs to be primed. Loosen your gas cap and maybe crack the line fitting at the carb. It will stay primed until you run it out of gas again
It’s gravity fed. It should fill itself with no issue on that alone. It’s clear he’s got either a blockage in the line or the float needle isn’t working right.
Justin Stearns Mine did this with new fuel line, sediment bowl, and a rebuilt tsx67 carb. There was no blockage. If it ran out of gas, it acted just like a vapor lock, and gas would not flow from the sediment bowl to the carb until I loosened the new gas cap and the fuel line fitting at the carb. Then, gas would flow and fill the carb bowl to the proper level. I tightened the fitting and gas cap, and everything worked properly for months until I ran it out of gas again. Rinse and repeat.
Mister Ed Huh. I’ve never ran into that with my Farmalls or my Oliver. I doubt it’s just an MM thing, but I can’t say I’ve seen that happen, unless the gas cap vent was bad or something.
I've seen that problem on the 60s Molines.
Sounds right. I thought maybe a rotten fuel line with a pin hole leak causing it not to prime but you're probably right
I really enjoyed that episode! Thanks for your hard work in creating great content and encouragement to go out and save some of these old work horses!
Thank you friend!
I really like what you said at the end of the video, that was pretty amazing! God Bless you my Friend...
Thank you 👍👍
Back in the 70s my brother in law had a U model, a 602 and a 670. The 602 had a 5” stroke so he did a 6” stroke kit on it. Made it close to 70hp like the 670. All three were propane. I ran them a couple years. Had some great times doing the farming thing.
I would like to hear what happened with the Moline M602, from the son of a MM collector! Your red service truck got me! I spent countless hrs in my dads red ~1957 1 ton Ford service truck, Straight 6 with enough room to stand between the fender wells and the engine!
VGG Family has great content! I stumbled on your channel a few yrs ago, then got too busy. Reconnected a few wks ago and got hooked and subscribed right now. This vid is very nostalgic to me. Born and raised in Minnesota (almost ND), my dad started collecting and restoring Moline tractors in the late 70’s when I was 10. I spent countless hours wrenching and tinkering with him, going on road trips to extract MMs from tree rows, sheds, you know the deal. He’s still hard at it. My first engine he let me wrench on was a ‘20s - ‘30s gas powered one cylinder kick start Maytag washing machine motor. After that outboards, lawnmowers, snowmobiles and cars.
I really did'nt care about tractors , before I saw you work on one, bloody good show!!! rock on Vice Man!
Thank you
You've single handedly showed more that brakes are just a luxury and not a requirement lol
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Brave men need no brakes. Also, brakes are meant to hinder movement (aka speed).
"It is amazing how many drivers, even at the Formula One Level, think that the brakes are for slowing the car down." -Mario Andretti
I built my first bike around the age of 12 and it didn't have any brakes either. LOL
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My Dad used to say "If you don't fail, your not doing anything"
I like that. Simple but yet true👍
My dad always says ''don't do nothin don't do nothin wrong.''
@@austin-1973With that attitude I would NEVER get anything done in My shop!!!!
There is another saying I flick my daughter when she has got the shits with something that didn't work out well the first attempt. " A master has failed more times than you have tried"
My dad used to tell us kids, nothing ventured nothing gained
You have to fall to learn how to get back up again, and God knows i have fallen plenty of times, but Thank God He's Always been there to pick me back up and try it all over again😁😁🙏🙏🙏
Glen Ward from Massey Ont.,owsome time watching,be proud to to know you,Stuges was a event,always there ,take care.You have a frieind .
a guy did an old 1950 David Brown, been lying under a hedge for 10 years, took me a month of couple of hours after work a couple of days a week before dark to get the old girl going, sat in our driveway as our boat tractor for ten years, got a huge sense of achievement from getting her working again, nothing like working on junk & getting em going again :)
Oh man. That speech at the end. Got me off my butt in an instant.
excellent!
This is the first time seeing your videos, and I really dig it man. I love vintage or old machinery, tractors all that. You've got my subscription. Keep up the awesome work
I remember driving an MM on my Baba's Farm in the early 1970s. I was about 12 yrs old and got it stuck pretty good along a Slough. I loved the Hand Clutch it had, compared to the Foot Clutch of the McCormick
Memories. From cutting hay as a young innocent country boy to knocking on the same neighbors door at three in the morning to use the same tractor to pull my truck out of the creek after an evening of drunken madness. I do still loveMoline tractors. . My neighbor was from MN and had moved to southwest MO with a wall tent a Studebaker truck and a Minneapolis Moline tractor.
Derek you tickle me every time when your putting things together and you say you use old lawn mower oil or old lawn mower gas that’s been setting for a couple of years lol. God Bless my friend keep up the good work 👍👍
"it has a really soft.. I'm going to strip and ruin your head.. Feel to it" best line of ever heard on the old UA-cam..
Haha
I hate that feeling anti seeze on every plug I change!!
That's what she said!!😉😉🙏🏻
I really enjoyed "Truth be told I'd rather low crawl through barbed wire in a hail storm." I just know it's the truth because he said "I'd" and not "A guy".
I hope there is a part 2 for this tractor as I enjoyed part 1 :)
Thinkin about it!
@@ViceGripGarage If that carb works on a venturi might there be some sort of blockage that prevents that? Or a leak? Enjoyed the video!
Need more gas in fuel tank. No fuel pump, you need a couple gallons minimum for pressure at the carb not a dribble. Second a guy might be better off not shooting thru the oil bath air filter but right into carb hose. 3rd, moline 4cyl liked half throttle and full choke for 1-2 full cranks then full release off of choke. It's like Hunter hitting the crack pipe.
Those minnies start every time. I have restored over 20 of them. Unless they are in pieces they will break and run.
I had a 1958 Ford work master it was great. Aways started. one time it sat for 6 months and it was -30 degrees jumped up on it and it started right away. They made good stuff back in the day
that's awesome. when i was a kid my dad had a 1938 minneapolis moline, it had the old crank start on the front of the tractor below the radiator. it was nicknamed the arm breaker.. if you were not careful the crank would swing back and hit you in the arm.
"If at first you don't succeed, try, try again. Then quit. There's no point in being a damn fool about it.
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W. C. Fields
I like his ballast resistor he had hanging around the lightening maker
You need to start selling shirts that say “well I’ll be dipped”
I will take 2 dozen of them please
10/10 would definitely buy
Yep, a guy would but that.
And the back say, yep, she's factory!
Hey, I 2nd,3rd, and 68th this suggestion. Would have 69th also... but would have got a blown rod or something apparently... sign me up for 36.8 of them.
Derek I've got to call foul on that one. If you have the patience to sit down and file rings to build an engine, which is a very slow tedious process. You most definitely have the patience to build a set of plug wires. Lol
I love these tractor video's. I've said before, I'd love to see you teach a little snippet on setting points with a dwell meter because you've got a way of explaining things simply so feller can wrap his head around it. Also I think a tractor would be the perfect vehicle for that because the distributor is right in your face and everything is easy to see.
A guy seems real comfy with a tractor. My grandad delivered MM tractors at 16 brand new. Hes still awful proud of it, seein as it bought his first house and got him on dates with my Grandma. I plan on showin him this vidya ASAP since I know he'd love it. He was also a Sears mechanic for 35 years and still tinkers at 80 years old, so I'll have to show him how to work the bleep bloops so a guy can open his laptop and enjoy some wrenchin. Best wishes Derek, thanks for always bein such a good feller.
that's awesome, and thank you . Hope your grandpop enjoys it!
Guy is hilarious... plays like a dope but he's overflowed with mechanical knowledge
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"Auto eject clamps " Love it !!!
Working the needle, sitting back and playing with the floats haha
I really appreciate how he explains things like the antique fuel filter and never seen an updraft carb my grandad had mentioned them once or twice befor he passed in 2015 it's pretty cool to see after all these years
As one of those kids that wanted to make a few bucks, I sat on many different old tractors that never had a cab and the L 4 and the L 5 have been deleted on. First tractor that I remember driving was the old johnny popper. Hated that hand clutch. A guy just had to figure out many issues so he could keep on running. There's just nothing like swattin mosquitos and wasps while chockin on the old dirt clouds. I do remember slippin on one the steps and runnin the shin on the sharp edge. Thanks for wakin up the old cloud of storage ✌️ I wonder what Jimmy Page is doin right now
Lol I like your red "agco" service truck it is fitting for the tractor you are working on lol
The ending is hilarious and also depressingly true at the same time. I felt like I was watching a hunting show from the 90s or something.
Haha... glad you enjoyed
"Course I cut my finger all the way down to my hip bone" got me good on this one
couldn't understand that. Isn't the hip bone really far away? He's meaning something else, isnt he.
@@LAactor he means that the cut was so deep that it went through his body
It's exaggeration for comedic relief, like Phillips Milk of Magnesia is relief for the s#&*^, I don't know, it's like, "my headaches so bad, my brother had to take 2 Tylenol and go to bed", darn it's getting worse now isn't it.
Sorry........
My Grandfather bought a new M-604 with front wheel assist a shuttle gear and a high lift loader custom built I think in Gaylodr MI .. My Grandfather sold it to my Father for $5,000.00 a few year later my Father sold it to a Cousin.. They both used it to load lime in farmers fields to spread lime.. My Father sold it to my Cousin for $5,000 too 45 years later my Cousin passed away and I think his wife traded it in at Burnips Farm Implements maybe near Grand Rapids MI .. It's worth around $30,000.00 today .. My Father bought a new Michigan 45B loader in 1974 for $30,000.00 on sale from $36,000.00 do to the recession ..
Wow!!
@@ViceGripGarage My Grandfathers M-604 was so valuable to Collectors because it has front wheel assist.. A Coleman front axle.. Hired Help broke a front axle and My Cousin got an axle out of an old Military Truck .. Maybe it was a Conversion Truck like an IH .. I think MM was bought by White Moror Compnay about 1973 or so ...
Love this. It reminds me of my great grandpa's old 1950 Minneapolis-Moline model U tractor.
Front 40 needs plowin'... let's test on 'er!!
if you can dump fuel down the hatch like that, it might be a vac leak somewhere on that manifold
"Cut my finger all tHe way down to my hip bone" I ended up with a lap full of cold snacks!
🤣🤷♂️ sorry!
Sometimes things just don't want to comeback and go to work. Derek you gave it a good shot and nothing to be ashamed of for sure.
Glade I found your channel.farmed.all my life have 17 old tractors you are right up my alley.thanks again
7:26, I see the beet truck is making its money back already.
Oh yah, shes been in the field for a few months now workin
A feller’s gonna win some, and he’s gonna lose some... main thing is to keep on snippin’ and snaggin’ til a guy gets ‘er done
mid episode: "a guy should never stand next to a tractor while starting it"
end of the episode: *funnels 2 stroke into the carb and cranks on it
'e's gonna have a problem trying to start an old sidewinder John Deere then
😂😂😂😂🤣🤣😂😂 great comment
LOL! And I'm guessing many guys did it in the past considering the ignition key was sticking out the side by the carb. File this under why women live longer than men.
c racking the fuel line at the carburetor will purge air block in the line, we have had that happen numerous times with M's and H's after carb work. Not enough pressure from the tank to push the air out. And don't forget to check for a fine screen in the fuel line inlet at the carb...those block up with sediment.
I just reworked my 51 Ferguson. I did a 12-volt conversion but otherwise had all of the same problems. Rebuilt the carb, cleared a clogged fuel line, replaced a leaky sediment bowl, etc. They sure are sweet once you have them dialed-in and running though 😊
Wearing a CASE ballcap while working on an old Moline :) Irony at it's finest or is it?
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Maximus Decimus Meridius ...maybe you just figured out the problem ! These old girls
can get mighty jealous !
Jamie Morgan yes sir🙏🏽😂
9:56 "She's got the auto eject clamps on 'er.... That's handy" BAWHAHAHA
That's factry
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@@davepeck1828 factry you say??? Well I'll be dipped! A guy usually has to pay xtra for a dodad like that.
Haha best part of the vid
If I had $1 for every time vice grip said “A guy” I would have enough money to completely Restore one of his cars he bought
A guy could restore a car with all of that product buyer
Thats true on the updraft carbeurator. Looking at that with carb missing Id initially mistake that for exhaust until I figured out theres all exhaust and no intake. You were blessed with carb still on but omg that would take a minute to figure out otherwise!
What i do with updraft carburetor is to put your hand over the throat of air cleaner side. Turn it over till you get the fuel on you hand. Works for me on my tractor.
I'll have my cold snacks ready.
Didn’t know a guy knows his way around the agricultural equipments. She’s factory
He's as handy as a pair of Vice Grips !! 😎
Just Mint, right?
If it's got sparkolators and a whirligig, Derek will get her goin'.
pronounced FACT-TREE HAHA
That’s why a feller’s got a service truck
"Get off your butt, get out there and start spinning wrenches."
Words to live by.
Gave the olde Yellow Dog a good kick but, not much barkey.
Thanks for the pep talk at the end , Brother. You can't win 'em all. God Bless...
PS: If she's still there, go back and take the gas cap off and blow compressed air back up through the fuel line into the fuel tank. I'll bet the line's clogged. I had that different times with old gassers.
"I'd rather low crawl through barbed wire in a hail storm" 😂😂😂
true story
One could think a guy used to be some kind of super soldier :D
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@@ViceGripGarage Dereck, are you a Vet?
Desperately waiting for part 2 of this. Love old tractors
oh man cant wait till this drops
Tips: 1#: Sediment bowls also have brass screens. #2: Ethanol can eat away brass and pot metal on some old fuel systems. I've seen some be fine and others wrecked. #3: I've seen ethanol make float valves start to leak after a few years of use in old tractors. #4: The insulating block on your distributor was broke in two - I believe those are one piece through the distributor. Continued.......
Loved this. My father taught me how to use a clutch on my Grandfather's old Ford tractor out in one of his pastures in Eastern Washington when I was about 10. Have had a soft spot for old tractors ever since.